#753 - Tim Kennedy - What Went Wrong With America?
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Hello, friends, welcome back to the show. My yesterday is tim Kennedy is a special forces master sergeant, former professional U, F, C, fighter and an author. There is a lot of numerous m in the world assumptions that things are terrible. They're never going to get Better, I don't agree, and neither does tim expect to learn how we can fix the american military s recruitment problem.

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Seventy seven percent of us, seventeen to twenty four year worlds could not join the military. The american department of defense recently did an analysis of seventy twenty four year olds and found that seventy seven percent unqualified to serve in the military due mostly to obesity, drug abuse, physical health or mental health. Almost half would disqualified for more than one of those reasons.

This is um we talk about strategic level issues like national security problems. Anybody looking at that number from from the seal teams to the Green brace to ranger, those those select their populations from a larger general population from combat arms. Combat arms gets their people from this larger population of people. So like as the as the the arrow head gets a little bit more narrow, the availability of people to fund these small groups to these middle size groups, to these potentially larger groups, are just drinking and drinking and drinking. This is we're going to lose to everybody if this trend continues, which can we can't win wars, what the bodies that we have, because the .

catchment area of the Normal people feeds into the catchment area of the Normal soldiers, feeds into the catchment area of the semi elite, into the absolute the elite. And if the bottom wrong of the ladder, which is population is bad, that trickles all the way up to the very top.

Yeah, the department offence is always a parallel, is just a reflection of what society is at a large right. When you look at society at large right now, they are just that they're very large, their obese, their jointless blobs of broken minds. They don't know if they're a boy or a girl.

They definitely have never jumped out of a tree before. So when they go to the airborne school and they land on a static line jump and they break both their legs, it's because they've never done that before. You know, when I grew up chasing kids and like smacking each other were sticks, you don't.

This generation has done that. So there are just weaker in every form of the word. I know every generation says this, but right now, statistically, we've never had a data point to point you to show, like that has ever been this bad.

So now I would like that the war or two guys like those vietnam guides are a bunch of pushes. You know, the vietnam guys like, oh, man, those g walk guys are bunch of pushes. And the g walk guys are like a man. But, but they really are. But this is a real big problem, and we don't know how to fix IT.

How much do you lay at the feet of the population with this? Because lots of people probably would like to be fitter if they knew what that would feel like. They would like to have Better mental health if they knew what that would feel like they would.

But they went aware they won't. Given the tools, there are distractions and and environmental issues. Technology screen social media upon n video games.

All of these things are relatively new inventions that didn't have to be contended with by world war two or vietnam, even early milenio. So how how do you think about this sort of individual agency of this environmental stimulus and restrictions and stuff? Yeah.

I think get a combination of both. I don't want they give the point to a specific thing and be like, this is the thing that's causing the biggest problem you know from social media to pornography to um you know ipad screen time. Diet, like the food that we're eating right now is poison.

Literally the things that are in our food is illegal in most other countries, but it's legal here. They're not allowed to export IT. You if you go to japan and are you go to italy, a bunch of american fuge aren't even allowed to be imported there because they know the things that that are in them are so disgusting.

There's there's a holy's video meme of these italian moms comparing american posta to the posta that they make and they could not be more to similar. Therefore this is not posta like we don't know what these ingredients are but this is not like we use flower and um a little bit of salt, you know and we threw some eggs in there and and then here's the process of us making business like this is poison. So it's I think it's a combination of a whole bunch of things.

And then the society cultural problem is a dragani piece. We we have the culture of being an american has changed in the past thirty years and in a really negative way. Know where used to be family first.

You know that nuclear family was was the cornerstone of american society. And like there was the motivating, the motivations for a male figure in the household, like he's going to be a provider, he's going to be a protector, he's gna preserve. His family know that he's obviously gonna sex driven, so he's like trying to be A A masculine person in the household set on the opposite in that spectrum, the woman would in would embrace being feminine.

You know, the kids respected the parents. If if you look at pop culture right now, like Chris, could you point to a single television show that paints apparent in a positive light? I may think of every single show on netflix, disney, amazon, the longest running shows early.

It's all flawed, even the heroes in superhero movies. Uh, it's a suicide squad. Ah right it's a dead pool with ryan rds.

No one can just be. I mean, the closest thing that we got was top gun. I guess that was that .

and he's broken. But yes, that's definitely anomaly like that. On the outside of the adverse, that's the outliers.

You look at homer, like the longest running cartoon T V series right now. When you go into his brain, he's motivated by three things, beer, donuts and conclusions ness. You know, he's the idiot in the horn tire family. And from modern family .

to my day.

yeah, every single one of like the parent figure is the most discussing despicable person there. So of course, that's going naturally be eroding the view of this generational passing of information that generational gap from grandparents to children used to be very commonplace. right? Like I learned how to magnetize a screw driver.

I learned how to charge battery. I learned like the tricks in the trade of, like, how to hold a hammer, and how one hammer is different than a different hammer, and that ham to a job. And, you know, while my dad could have taught me that I was actually my grandpa that did that, and I was able to receive that easier for my grandpa and I was my own father um and that's how IT has been for hundreds of years until now.

Now you see no um kind of cross pollination of ideas from one generation to two generations ago, from like the grandparent to the grandchild. And that's tragic. There's a huge loss of information there. Well.

the desire for people to move out at age sixteen or eight, in or twenty and be in a different country. I mean, I say this is someone who is in a different country, but pan generational, living in some common style, small village would have been the way that everything was done.

Do you know what the grandmother hypothesis is? Is one of the reasons are the evolutionary justifications for why women go through, right? So there's a question to be asked.

Most animals aren't able to continue to reproduce while their, their reproduction doesn't stop. While they still alive, their capacity to reproduce IT ceases at the same time that they die, typically virus for humans. You have this weird period, no forties for women, forties to fifties, where they're still about. So you think what they are, drain on resources and then no longer contributing animal kin.

So what are they here for? And the argument is that human child wearing is so complex and allow parenting needs to be done, which is the shared parenting of kids, from mothers to grandmothers to aunts and close friends, that what you actually need is a grandmother in that sort of material c head of the households position, who is able to deal with the interpersonal, political backbiting of, you know, ten women below her, the report of her and telling me them what to do and helping to raise their children and coordinating stuff like that. So that's a very important role, whilst not still continuing to produce children. So take is so important to the way that humans develop that it's literally built into female biology. Yeah.

that's how important you see a culturally, you go to the american tribes when a girl's having her first period, the the grandmother would take that child away. And teacher, all of like, okay, this is how you take care of yourself. This is during this period of, you know, five to seven days you're going to be drinking extra water, you know, like this this is how you clean yourself.

Um and you go down to south america, a bunch of cultures down there, they're actually traditional tribal periods where that granddaughter would go to the grandmother and he would spend a week or two weeks with this grandmother learning all of the the birds and bees of life and the that transfer of knowledge about how to raise a child, about how to take care their body, about what this cycle looks like. But what is going on in america, where now we look at this, the prior generation, is this old broken idiots that you can just walk up to on the street in new york and slam in the face which we see all the time. Um it's it's been and a rotation of respect of these other generations.

There's an interesting trend that I found this article about the description for gensec and some of the feedback that jensie gave about that i'm going to war for reaches sunnah give your head a rubble i've got things to do, said twenty three year old tiktok, a charlie milo, in a widely shared video SHE posted on a platform over the weekend, i'm gay SHE continued on northern and I will play those cards.

Twenty six year old content, create A I A A P, upload a similar video. I'm sitting here, a naked, eating a bowl of yoga tt SHE begins reading about how we might have to go to war. They want to send me a little girl to the front line.

The army is simply no longer seen as a moral endeavour, or as a twenty four year old. The last war in my living memory was not a bound, storming defeat of the nazis, but rather a series of wars and invasions in the middle. Ast exposed his failures and widely thought to be based on lies, to believe, held by older generations, that the british army is solely a forced for good in the world, does not stand up anymore, as jensie would put IT, the military propaganda .

is not propaganda in yeah one what a entitled little pricks. How how sad is that? There should be a yearning to serve um I I found nothing more meaningful in my life than finding opportunities to do good to somebody or for something that is bigger, Better than myself and i've as a as an individual have found growth in those in those times more so than anything else in life um.

But a whole bunch of people right now don't anna serve anyone but themselves. They want to build a brand, you know, they want food deliver to the door. It's just so short sited and and realizing that sometimes IT takes time to develop who yours a person and that development comes from struggle and failure in service on the military front. Ah you don't think that those Young men and women coming out the great depression have things to do when they learned that nazis were flooding across ss, the borders throughout europe.

You know, you don't think that during the korean war, as amErica has the largest economic boom in history, in the history of our species, those that americans didn't have something to do besides fight communism in a land that most people had never even heard of before, you know, go to vietnam, you know, think the ones that were then descriptions, though the draft occurs and hundreds of thousands of people had no choice but to go serve their country. Um you don't think they have Better things to do as as like the great awakening of cultures happened in the sixties and seventies you know we're fighting for civil rights, we're fighting for the rights of women. We're fighting um for transparently within the government you know we lose when the Grace president our countries ever had like all of this is in a real tough times but I get that you wanted sit their naked in new yo yogurt t but you think that that's more important than what was happening previously?

Like they did have other things to do. It's it's so pathetic and childish. I just look like a petulant child.

How would you think what how do you think about fixing the culture and the popular is perspective of the armed forces and service?

I think it's a communication problem. On department of defense side, I think we failed to clearly show what we do. You know, like people look at my resume like that.

All he's done as adult life has gone over season killed. That's the further thing from the truth. There have been periods where I had to do that to to create stability and security within a nation.

But why? Why were we doing that? I was to give that place an opportunity to exist where democracy could have a foot ld, where a hook could be set, and that place had a chance to live. The Better, the more secure and the more stable a world has.

A country like ours that is built of capitalism, has more countries to do commerce with um but on the human on the human right side of IT with stability, security comes opportunity opportunity for Young girls to learn how to read, for Young men to find occupations besides working IT within terrorism or sing in some form of human suffering and we have to communicate to that gay girl eating yogurt naked on her couch. What is that look like to serve? And I think they'd be blown away to realize that we go to the some of the most downtown roden cultures on the planet and give them a chance.

We give them opportunity. We create something that you've never had the like if you're born in america, you won the lottery, you know like you're you're in the safest, richest planet place on the planet to have ever existed. Like you look one content to our east, slightly south, and you can't go to a country that doesn't have when I say, like third world poor, i'm not talking like for villa in brazil.

I'm talking like there are one meal away from starving to death and starving to death. When we say I am so hunger, i'm starving. Starving to death means like you are so milners that if you even eat a meal IT might kill you because your body can't process the calories that are in IT.

Um we've never seen suffering and and human desperation like we see all over the world and we get to go to that place and give them a chance. Like how do you tell a girl that sit there on tiktok? I don't know.

I think the presumption what IT sounds like the presumption is, is this is you know colonial powers is something to do with oil. This is know, the military industrial complex trying to take over some country. IT doesn't sound like a aid.

IT doesn't sound like liberation. IT doesn't sound like assistance or medicine or health care, any of those things. But IT sounds like is just more colonialism going on, White people invading Brown people.

That's what war is. Yeah, colonel ism has existed for forever. And some of the greatest things to happen to some countries were then being conquered and then settled and then commerce occurs.

And for the first time, that country isn't tribally just killing each other. Ah it's really easy to like label any form of expansion of a country or an idea or a culture negatively. There are cultures that are Better than other cultures.

I know I supposed to be like super inclusive. Um I could list a couple of dozen cultures that are so disgusting and so easy where, you know sixty seven year old men can have five, ten wives. And guess what, those wives are little girls.

As soon as they have their first period, they are eligible to be sold and married to this dude, you please tell me that he would not be Better for britain or for amErica or for mexico to go over and settle back. Country IT would be a hundred percent Better and the people there would be Better off for IT. Um but like I would have to appreciate all these cultures.

We definitely don't assume I need these no there are Better cultures and um the world would be Better off and would be a more peaceful place no everybody has to be western ized that's not what i'm saying um but there are evil ideas and there are evil religions and there are evil cultures and man, I just wish that. But there are also shared values. You know, there are norms that are beautiful, that transcend cultures and trans and countries and trans and borders.

And those ideals like murder is wrong. Rape is wrong. Those ideas are not wrong in some cultures. Well, those cultures are evil.

Yeah, I want, I wonder what need to happen from a message perspective. IT certainly needs to maybe highlight at least two things that can think of, one being the honor in making a bad place Better, and the second one being the a sort of heroism and sense of purpose and meaning that people who do that get. Because IT seems strange that an entire culture, an entire generation, can talk about meaningful lessons purposelessness hopelessness.

You know, sixty percent of teenage goals say that they have regular, persistent feelings of hopelessness. I think thirty percent of girls in that same age brackets seriously considered taking their own lives. If that's the case, surely one of the things that a lot of people in the on forces says the most meaningful thing probably may be accept family that they do. Well, that seems like a pretty good until to me. But I guess what that sounds like what IT looks like to people who haven't had the messaging put across in the right way is, oh, this is just hard things for battens.

But I don't think there's anything more dangerous than a Young man or woman without purpose. There's there's nothing that will destroy in a road that person's future then their lack of purpose. There is also nothing more beautiful than i'll just talk to Young man specifically than a Young man with purpose like during the holo cost when those rumors started coming across the atlantic that jews were being put on trains and taken to, no one knows where, but nobody sees them again. But we see towers of smoke coming out of these places like out switch and Young man like.

No, fuck no, yeah, all all storm beaches, our climate lips, or jump out of airplanes for the first time behind enemy lines, with equipment that's never been used before, in in a form of warfare that's never been tried. Because this is my purpose is to do good. Where is that? We see on the opposite, in the that spectrum, Young man, without purpose, that then get angry and get bitter end.

They start having resentment against specific groups and people, whether it's the color of their skin or their religion. And then they walk to school or a church or a movie theater, and they start hurting people. That's a broken Young man without purpose, but a man with purpose.

Man, you know, he's he's going to figure out that you can fly a plane off this little tiny island in north CarOlina. Know he's gna figure out that he can step off this latter and jump into almost weightless ness on a surface of a moon that nobody stepped on before. Like that purpose.

What was the purpose where in an arms race against the russians, the red, the space race, wasn't arms race, but that was purpose. IT was an idea that we can do something significant to improve america. Fill yourself with something more important yourself and pour everything that you are into IT.

And the, and that's purpose. And with that, like, like, i'm filled with purpose and i'm filled with joy and i'm filled with hope and i'm filled with love and i'm filled with Grace. But all of that is a by product of purpose.

Like you can't be set there. But like i'm depressed, i'm thinking about suicide. You like i'm a feeling I could give I could write a thousand different ideas that you could, that you could dedicate your life to. And there would be a life worth lived living. I go, go and do great things.

A lot of that from service IT seems exactly what the point is that in the modern, get things .

inside. I mean, very figured, but also literally. And I think.

That's good. That'll do. Yeah so what we want you'll be dialed in now. Oh yeah, feel like causing three events. Um so we have A A culture which is very individual, very individualized. Um people are atomized from the family, from the culture, from the history and from each other as well.

If you're living in, if you're fracking citizen number two hundred and thirty three thousand living in your pod p leeming away, that shared sense of purpose IT doesn't surprise me that that's not the case. But you look to other cultures that are competitors know this winter bugle, one of my friends wrote an amazing article about tiktok. And the spanish talk equivalent that they have in china is showing people being proud of their country, and people doing cool science stuff, and people building technology, and Young people .

pornography and sleep good family video .

games when they can play video games in china. Yet between, I think seven P M and nine P M friday, saturday, sunday and four days a week.

two hours a day yeah .

that IT and it's outside of those time to just not on because like you can't you know like the fucking in someone's and blug the power that the ultimate parent ah it's it's wild and thinking, okay is this is what we have now with the degrees of freedom you're someone that very much you know wants people to have freedom in is thought for IT .

a lot like their freedom stuff.

But that multiple licit .

of .

options and lack of constraint just causes people to sort of race to the bottom of the pleasure stem, right? So is a bit of IT. There's a paradox going on here that some of the authoritarian dictor al tendencies are actually enabling the population in some ways to be Better.

Yeah, I will never say that the government is a solution for anything if we think that this would be a Better idea solution to give the government authority to go into households and say how much time they should be on screens, or who they should call like that, goes against every out of I, I, I believe. And what I think that means to be an american for the preamble of the constitution. We, the people, like the people, really were bad asses.

They carve their existence out of the, they fought bears and they fought indians. And then they were told that they were going to be tax to certain amount. And they like, no. And then we will throw this tea in the harbor and the like OK.

Well, we're going to have this little problem in boston and and americans going to get shot now you pissed us off, were going to kill all of you, and we're going to kick you off the continent like we, the people were a bunch of bad asses. There is individual responsibility for those people. There will read they are well travelled, free to vote, you have to be a land owner.

Um you you had to shoot a gun. You're required to own a gun. And to .

train we require .

n if if you are a voting member, you had to own a gun and you had to train with that. And there's a dedicated day off for the entire country. Every single person had a dedicated day to go out and train.

And there there are some inherent responsibility lies to be a citizen, to be with the people now, or just like every somebody's going to do IT for me, somebody, he's going to take care of this problem, somebody he's going to solve this world problem, somebody he's tell me how much i'm supposed to eat or what i'm supposed to eat. That responsibility we've just been handing over bit by bit for the past four years, and now we don't know how to take IT back. And responsibility is where freedom comes from.

You can't be free unless you are self sufficient. You cannot be free unless you're individually responsible. You can't be free from the government being able to tell you how you're supposed to be healthy unless you're healthy.

Like I can look at somebody saying, hey, you need to put this in your body and I became like, no, I don't i'm freaking jack and i'm onna live and tell him a hundred hey, you need to put this in your kids bodies and like my kid has a six pack, can speak a couple of languages and place five sports like he doesn't need what you're given a may have like he eats free range chicken, elk, bison. You like he, I promise you, whatever you're trying to give him, he doesn't want and but we can do that because we're a position of authority, as with sovereignty. And then take that into any other category words, electoral education and the key you have to be educate in this way no, the way that you're educating those kids is done.

All of the kids that we educate are way smarter than your dumb kids. I don't want what you're trying to sell us because we do Better. But that sovereignty and that is us taking back those freedoms and taking back um and taking the I like you don't get that you you can't tell me what to do because I do IT Better.

One of my favorite books has just been turned into you. You don't to turn IT around. It's like, can yes Morrish.

So one of my favorite box has just been turned into a movie, churches, ministry of ungentlemanly. You know this? I do know that.

So have you seen the trailer for this? So you know who Allan Richard is, is the guy that played, yeah, so jacked out of his mind. And ry cavill isn't.

IT is directed by guy reality check jacked out of his mind, but directed by guy reti. So it's going to be sexy. It's gonna cool.

And I just, I can't wait. But as you know, true story, you brought the book. Yes, of course, this is what this is like. This sort of renewed spirit is so cool so the begin of world war I, the british being the prime proper .

gentleman tly spending a cana um .

at the beginning of world or two winds and churchill .

realized that .

the only way that we could be the night was to play dirty. And there's a quote from one of the other high ranking officials in the british government that said, if this is what IT takes to win, then I am prepared to lose. He said, there was a degree of that guy.

I don't know who that is, but they should hang .

him in the street. But so I think this was really the inception of A A being used at scale for a advanced military.

and or that the begin of special .

forces for the sea. Very .

familiar. So.

but just thinking about that, thinking about, okay, so there was like the british sensibility of doing things right, was so powerful. IT was such a compulsion that the guys in power, we've rather a lot, there is A A tendency of leaning toward. This is so unethical to them. IT was like fucking sian gas or fucking in muster gas, something it's like we're blowing up bridges we're using um they created olympic mine in that book as well and they're doing IT with ana bulls wrapped in condoms and it's just it's it's fucking great. I can't wait for this going .

through this right now one hundred percent. So its history always repeats itself um there's great book called the new rules of war and currently amErica does not have the appetite to do what IT takes to win the war that we have to win but we can even call them wars right? So we're currently fighting cartels, syndicated criminal groups.

We're fighting war via proxy against terrace organizations in proxy nations. So not direct state on state conflicts, but rather like state verses. Um this group of people that are living in this area of this other country there are be finance by one of our enemies.

But that war though, like if if that if our enemy is financing a bunch of different groups and militias to fight us in these really inhumane ways, were at war that country. But amErica can't recognize that. And the things that we would have to do to win this war in this new kind of way, we're not capable of doing the the drone warfare um the A I that we're having to use to be successful in ukraine.

Americans are with a second so that drone is going to go kill a human and it's making its decision on its own yeah has to because once that leaves this pointed departure, I can't see any signal al from us because it's been blocked and IT has to be able to be making those decisions by itself. Similar arly. Like if you go on the mexican border, we're not just fighting immigrants.

That's not what this is. We are. We are. You're an immigrant. I'm an immigrant. Literally every single White person in this whole entire country is an immigrant. With that said, there is an immigration process for us to come here.

We are fighting cartels that are not just smuggling people, smuggling terrorists, smuggling drugs and smuggling guns. You're struggling in ideas and we are war on that border that that that for a country to be a real country has to have a sovereign order. There's literally an amendment in the constitution saying that we have the right to defend ourself and our borders. But or not, they were being invaded. What's happening on the U.

S. Mexico border at the moment? Spend some time down. Then give me the I think was IT. In december, three hundred thousand potential, uh, immigrants was stopped. That was the number that was stopped.

Yes, yeah. But the good ways is the number that nobody talks about. So three hundred thousand people were stopped and then let end.

How many weren't stopped? How many just got in? Is IT more than three hundred thousand? What do you think? Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

It's more than three hundred thousand. So like the number of people that we caught, this can be a small fraction. And then of the number of people that made IT across without being stopped.

When you look at the vastness of that border and where the wall is, where our ports of entry or um where the river is a IT IT is purest beyond belief. You can I i've crossed that border like twenty five times in a week. Both sides o phone says welcome to mexico like it's to cost ten dollars to here the national program and come back again OK.

Well, come back to the next days and they can do this all day long. So the ones that we are catching, the ones that we catch compared to the ones that make IT through is a very, very small fraction, the ones that really don't want to be caught, the way the cartel will push a bunch of people that they know are gonna caught. Because if you just think of the.

Come on, the commander. I have x number of resources. I have a hundred troops at my disposal.

Of course, I want to do counter introductions. So I want to stop drugs. I want to stop human traffickers. I want to stop um sex and slave ments. I want to stop weapons smuggling as i'm at the river and a reo and I have a thousand immigrants crossed at one time.

How many of my hundred soldiers do I need to use to deal with those thousand people? right? So I i've one I receiving right up in the lines. I, I make some choke points. I fun all them into a specific area.

Use some concertina wire to make sure, like, I have an orderly way, fifty guys make seventy five guys, right? So now I have fifty to twenty five guys left for me to use. And I have this entire area that have to be covering.

But the moment those people start come across the river, this is the same time that five guys jumped into the river with bundles on their back. And then another five miles up the river, two boats get pushed across with a bunch of midnight eastern and eastern, eastern european guys that have been smuggled in traffic across. And then five miles down the river, there's a bunch of Young girls are eleven or twelve. They're going back in the mexico that they kidnapped in our passo.

The whole things coordinated.

Tell me how to distribute my last remaining twenty five guys, also the thousand that start coming across the car. Tel, you are are just going to grab a couple little girls and four in the river. They're to grab a baby and drop IT in the drink.

They're going to take a dad, just trip them with a kid on the shorter ers, and they are all drown do on my soldiers to jump in with body armor to start swiming after them. This is the reality every single day across the home tire river. And that is, the largest border in the world, in the world is our border on our southers border, canadian, canada to the north gigantic border, mexico border.

is to stop us canadians coming. And that's the important thing that no .

one's talking about those I got hopes for the next election of.

okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So can you explain, you know, for the people who haven't been done to the mexico border, what is the .

is IT all a .

demarcate in some form or another? Is the some type of or the elements where is literally just this is a piece of land .

and you can wander across a lot. Texas has mostly private land um so that the border is on somebody's ranch.

right? fantastic. Yeah so guys welcome .

in in some cases. But I think those branches, the the cartel charges will say like a ticket. So if you want yourself in your family to come across your your um ecuador right now, kind spicy y cartels took the home entire thing over much.

If you saw two weeks ago, they're like they were killing news hosts in the news station while they were on the street, killing a bunch of people in the street and targeting government officials and judges. And IT was happening like in real time, live on the news. So you have legitimate asylum seekers that are on the run from cartels.

They move through central amErica and they come up to the mexico border. They pay the cartels to allow them to the cross or they pay them extra to facilitate coming across. Um this is an endless.

Cycle of revenue for the cartels that they cost them nothing to produce. They don't have to smuggle in drugs. They don't have to kidnap anybody.

People are just walk into them. And they they on the south side, have created barriers where you can cross without permission. And if you don't pay them, they'll kill you.

So there there's in some cases physical barriers, in some cases psychological barriers where you know, if you point part but this point of departure, you will be executed without, uh, a risk band like your ticket. I show you what those response look like, those response color core needed, kind of tell you I got a round trip. I have multi trip.

I have single direction. I'm allowed to go through this area, super sophisticated, all color ordinated, and across the on the southern side, all agreed between this cartel that's working with this group, with this cartel, with these traffickers and. It's unstoppable. The way that were currently tried to fight in finding IT. It's just we're not gonna in .

what is a way that would make IT stoppable.

So when the chinese built the great wall, they recognised that any barrack e without observation isn't a barricade. So I can build a wall. But if there's not something there observing that thing, it's not really a barricade because I can do whatever I need to do to get over that barricade and there's nothing to stop me.

Um so there's like all problems. There is not a single solution. Unfortunately, the wall creates choke points. IT forces people to go through specific areas.

And in those specific areas, we can set up to intrada t those people? No, there's a misconception that there is this. Barrier stopping people from crossing.

There's not. And additionally, there are ports of entry. Y there are legal places where anybody to include people like mexicans can just walk across the border.

They can walk up and say, hey, i'm going to be working here is my VISA or i'm going to be working at this ranch. My mom lives across the street and know some of those whose borders when they were set. Some families lived on this side. Some families lived on this side and they have been going back and forth all the time um but there there are so many hundreds of thousands of people that have flooded these areas that IT creates a human humAnitarian crisis and that creates a logistical problem of how as we, the united states government in department of state, how do we process this number of people we can um which is what exactly what the cartel wants and the surge es that happened from the executive level so the White house read now they changed some policies in the word gets out that its open borders. Everybody comes and everybody's coming what .

was the word that got out that made IT seem like IT is open borders.

Ah you get money when you cross, you will give you a couple thousand dollars, will will give you a bus ticket to the inland um will throw you on a plane and bring you to the city that you want to go to um well instead of you if you're an asylum seeker, when during the trump I R for example, if you came in and you were caught, uh an asylum seeker that just crosses um bell, then just on the inland be like ham looking for residency here um if they're stopped on the border, they're claim that they are asylum seekers. Well we would make that person weight either as the country of the crossing or the country of their origin for their case, for their yim case to be heard now they get a date come back and like six months or twelve months to your court hearing for you to learn about the process of that you're silent case. Uh, so there's there's only motivation for everyone to come here to the border and then they get an automatic pass in no.

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They've always been there. Um there there are more detention centers and larger detention centers during obama than the word trump um that's kind of a play of numbers though because so few people try to cross their in trump because they knew that they're gonna be kick back to their country of origin. Um you know just a couple of days ago in new york, did you see the video of the immigrants that we're tacking the N Y P D.

Officers of? This is horrific. The police were trying to deal with a small problem with involving a bunch of immigrants. And the immigrants attack the two police officers. The two police officers end up crappy on the ground against a couple of them and then the home tire crowd came up and started soccer, kicking the police officers and IT turns into like this. I mean, it's so it's a hard video to watch.

I'm actually about to post IT today um because I wanted to get some more contexts to like what was the initial call? Why were they there? Like they were they doing the right thing there actually crimes being committed and they were there too like trying to keep the piece as good police officers and then I was escalated ted, not on their end, but on the illegals end.

And then they end developed, giving, like, school stoped. This is for shadow wing of what's going to be coming like this. This is just a tiny little taste. Those are just immigrants. Those weren't even bad actors that were trained and are hoping for an opportunity to do american damage cause tens of thousands of them came in to the country over the past couple years.

Did you see that video of a bunch of people on a plane refusing to sit down because someone was being deported ah and IT turned out that person had been involved in gangland shoot outs in an all manner of fucker y yeah.

So ten days ago a live news near eagle pass, another common texas, you another common smuggling point, this news host is talking about all the immigrants coming across in this guy in pretty decent english, walks up behind because you don't know who I am, but you're gonna know my name. And what is going on here? Facial recognition.

Is this guy eighty two percent? That is a multiple terrorist that was in demo and he just walk across the border. He's live on television as this terrorist just walks into amErica and is bragging that everybody's going to know his name. That was almost two and how two weeks ago.

But we can half o what would you do? What would you do to train fix this problem? You have mention that you need to have presumably more staffing, more a funding to be able to train people up.

to be able to do this. So this isn't a border state problem. This is a, this is a national problem, right? So the governor of taxes is using state resources.

He he approved Operation loan star, which is using texas national guard soldiers to protect the border. So he is using tons of text of state funding to to protect the texas border. It's not just the text, this is america's border, but a whole bunch of you, most of california, arizona, new mexico, texas.

Are bearing the burden of this immigration, humAnitarian, an crisis. But the other thirty six states are of, or the other forty six states are just kind of like king and back me, like suck to be you guys. But then we bust a couple bus loads up to them.

They like, oh my god, we're like being overwhelmed. We sent you five hundred of them do it's like of three hundred thousand that just came across your border that are in your country. Um what would I do? I would finish the wall.

Um I would make certain areas impossible. That's conscience tina wire um that is armed guards that is um minor horseback. The epic photo of those border patrol guys that he was actually using his leads and they thought I was a whip because people are idiots and actually don't know how to do a horse.

Sensors, drones, we have the solutions. This is a fixie thing. We just don't have yet, again, the appetite to do what IT takes to close that border. Once the borders closed, we open the ports of entry, department state funds. And department state is doing the best they can with a very restricted resources they have. So imagine like the White house is telling the department state, hey, you have to be to be doing this department states, like we don't have the resources and we don't have the means to facilitate this number of people in the White houses like everybody come over here and department says, like we can't so these ports of entry have to be opened and the systems have to be fixed for us to be able able to process more people in a more um strategic way.

Didn't someone rip down a turn of raised while I wasn't a big deal like last week? Yes, two weeks ago.

the federal government is there's there's a competing effort to the at the border right now. So texas, the saying the borders closed and the federal government say no, the the borders open so the federal government is coming down to the barracks and the barriers that texas has put up and said, we you can have those that goes against federal law and texas is say, no, you can't do that that this is texas land and we are closing the borders so if you're not going to close the american borders we're going to close the texas border um yeah literally like federal law enforcement is coming in and doing the opposite of what the texas more enforcement is doing wild yeah .

that's conflict. Bran cAllen told me that he tried to trick you into believing that he was asleep, and you stood over him and said, do you know how many people have tried to pretend that there ously, as i've stood over the.

I love that guy, but he did get up and he did go the water with me, and then he did wrestle with me on the southern coast of franz in the sand. yeah. And I short like leg riding him from behind and put his face down in the sand. And while he was like trying to an effectively trying to get away from me, I was like drawing hearts in the same, and his faces like this, and like a drawing hearts. And this is awesome, a great, what a gem of a human.

For the people who haven't, almost no one really that's listening will have been in any kind of connected and encounter what is actually like to be in a firefight. What's the sense of that? Like what just describe what's going on there?

chaos? anarchy. I mean, it's like, IT is so not like the movies, you know like john awake, just like doing like some core autistic violent ballet.

And its some. Smells like shit. Now the smell of human flesh should be burnt, whether it's a bullet going in IT or an explosion from an I D ARPG.

Um you know, the d sol from a hub E R R G thirty three, the smell of gunpowder from a fitial machine, the like, those are all hard smells and then when when there's over pressure from, you know a machine gun or a bomb or a grenade or an eighty four IT, of course, kicks up the dirt and but it's the fine. Rt it's not like the heavy good soil like on farmland. It's like the gross moondust .

dirt human skin .

yeah and so you get these really weird, not natural smells mixed with very earthy smells and smells are a trigger for a lot of people's memories. And um that earthy with mechanical, with burning things are like really overwhelming sensations. That's a sma person. And then there's like what you're seen and the fog of war.

Could not I fail to express how hard IT is to see what you're seen? You've ve heard the expression the fog of war and people trying to remember back to battles and they have a really hard time explaining what they're seen because I don't think your brain can process what you're seen. Your brain can't process like your friend just got blown up and he's burn over here and there's a guy up there that shooting a boat at you, that from a machine gun position that's gonna kill you.

You know, like the vehicle that or you're just in is like threaded with a bunch of those holes in the front of this vehicle weren't there a few seconds ago and that's what that sound was. And but your brains trying to process this all the time, all the while like a adrenalin courters just exploding through your body. Um it's a it's war as hell um in the fog of war or apt expressions to try to in a same way. So it's fucking chaos.

So it's not IT IT yet. Chaos is the right word that there's no degree of pause or control in what you just describe. But presumable, that's what tactics and preparation of all yeah, it's to allow you to be able to wrangle what's going on and actually have some sort of process that you guys are moving through.

Yeah, I mean that that's why we do tens of thousands of reps of an emergency reload of my rifle, right? The bollocks to the river. I feel the bolt. I feel my my magazine giving litter ism shooting. Then I literally feel against my chin.

The bolt walked to the rear, and I feel the little catch, stop that bolt from traveling back ford, because the follower was pushed up by, or pushed up the block by the follower, the magazine. So I know my guns empty. I dropped the magazine, I insert your magazine, and I drop the boat.

I regret the gun. I find my site, I press the trigger, and all that happens in less than a second. My brain shouldn't, can't do that, like I can't cognitively think about doing that process. But i've practiced IT you know ten of thousands of times that IT just happens. And when we start manuvers and we have a group laying down suppressing fire while another group is flanking or we have one group move up to, uh, an oversight position to start laying down suppressive fire while another element goes that these are all rehearsed responses to known problems and um and that's why the most elite units on the planet have so much time to train and so many resources to facilitate them training.

Go ambush dota force, you know, like go give that a world you like real bad plane, you're all gonna die and as many people as you want and just know that you're not going to get any of them back, like, cool, go deal with sill team sick on the water. That's a good idea. You know, like, go kidnap in amErica and drag her into the desert and then use a cell phone and see how that works out for you um you know these all stories of seventeen seeks like dropping in the north africa, going in rescuing this beautiful blonde geo worker and killing literally everybody on the ground.

True stores. And it's because theyve done that thousands of times, thousands of rubs, thousands of jumps, thousands of time rounds on down on the range. So when that chaos happens and you're scared and you're full of fear, you're just doing the thing that you've always practice to do. And if you do IT, you will live. If you don't.

you're gona die. So I understand the moving things that you have to do from system to deliberate thinking into system one, automatic thinking. So what you did in the U. S.

right? Someone throws a punch. You don't think, oh, that's A A left job.

I'm gonna like sleep yeah, i'm going to move a little bit. I'm going to move. I'm going to move. Ah IT just happens. But presumably in a firefight, it's not just reaction and response this this sort of system one thinking where you're just doing the things, reloading the weapon, but then there's also the you need to use some cognition too. So what about that pulling in and pulling out thing? How do you utilize a little bit more of the analytical brain if you've just called us all in a gentle and well.

those systems and those processes are built within the military combat unit. So well, you have the fighters. You also have the know will just use a special forces. O, D, A. You know.

you have Operational detachment.

alpha. It's like the twelve man.

eighteen with in that team .

you have two guys per job. There's four main jobs, which are the eight men that do the body of the work. The other four guys, our leaders in some former fashion, and each of them take a certain piece of the pie on the leadership like, is that one for each two? no.

So the team's sergeant, he's kind of run in the eight guys. He's the the e that is like the battle harden. He's the most senior nco on the ground. And he's feeding the information to the eighteen. Bravo, the the weapons guy to the communication guy, to the engineer who's going to be launching mortal ers and rockets um and to the medic who's making sure like all the the the team and their foreign fighters are working in new ison.

And then you have know that the intel guy who is kind of fitting information and helping the team sergeant, but he's also fitting information to the team leader, the team leaders on the phone, talking to command, getting maybe some air support. He wants some fix wing fast movers or he's looking for some rotary wing support or he called an A U one thirty. So they're all reacting, but they're reacting in their piece of the pie.

And some of those reactions are that team leader, the the captain, if he picks up the two forty machine gun and hopes up on top of the back of the humvee and is like on the war, you know, like server fired, that is not your job. Your job is to go get on that radio and to call higher and get a support. Similarly, if that team stargate isn't directing and coordinating the men to respond to you the threat or the ambush in the right way that they ever hurt in the planet, then like key's not doing his job.

So each one of these awesome jobs has an awesome role, and the individual responsibility of that person to understand that role and to execute that. All in this hell that is war during the fog of war is so freaking bad. Us, and that's why you is one of the many reasons why I know I looked to like the markets to trials and the andy stumps to the jocose and and the evening furs and and you see them be like incredibly successful on business and like, of course they will because look at what they did beforehand in all of these different roles as they moved up the military latter and filled every single one of the rules on the way up. We're like they'll run a fortune five hundred company or though go start a brand new one and then bring the public and solve three hundred five hundred million dollars and here's my face of surprise. You know like they .

can do anything. What do each of the four peas of people do?

Um so you have the eighteen brother, he is a weapons sergeant and he is kind of responsible for the security. Um the initial he's like the warrior this I was in nineteen bravo. So i've been slightly by us here.

They're the best and said the eighteen charlie, he's the engineer. So two of each of these these two, there's a senior in a junior, right? So the guy that spent on the team longer and then the team gets the junior guy. He is the man shown him all the things that he needs to know and preparing that replacement.

And the senior of each of those jobs is also looking at the four other rules like the eighteen fox, the the warrant on the team and the team sergeant and they're all kind of been positioned and um trained to then through the next role about ve them the engineer is the explosives the building um is the bridge good to cross? Um is this build in stable for us to fight from? If I want to be setting up the camp, here's i'm doing like the logistic resource of reefs and refuse eighteen echo is the communication guy.

So satellite communication line, a site communication. F, M of the things that we need to do, shot, move, communicate, medicate. The then just to eighteen delta, which is the special forces metic. And there's two of them, thee they're like A P A slash parameter that's really, really good at trauma.

I was reading about some rumors of the number of soldiers that had been deployed. Perhaps IT was in worldwide, but I could have been in. One of the later was who didn't fight their rifle or purposefully fight their rifle over the heads of the enemy. Well, how much truth in that?

There's truth to that with with this wild phenomenon, calm, non shoot snipers. So guys in combat arms, he goes to the only casualty purchase in school, in the military snipper school, where they are actually just teaching a person how to kill another other person.

only casualty producing because the only role that you have are the primary the primary sorting as .

well as I accepting back information. But ultimately, we're also teaching dude how to take cross hairs, figure out how to take a bullet and put IT into somebody, make a hole. Um you have lots and military schools. I'm about to go to one that's like six months long and that is not a casual casual tea producing school that's a leadership school. So I lots ranger school, not a casual tea producing school that's a leadership school.

Um sopha tech that is not a casualty party in school, even though you learn a tane about how to shoot, move, community, medicate, that is how to rescue somebody, that is a hostage, you go to a fc, special forces events, urban combat, that is, how do I do war in a combat area? Are in an urban area, so each of them building necessary skills within that special Operations unit. But snipper school teaching, somebody had to make a hole and somebody far, far away.

The no shoot snipper comes from combat arms goes to snipper school, goes to war and can't pull the trigger. And it's not common. But IT does IT happens. And and this is just my personal opinion. I I think IT is uh, for a couple of reasons. One is the the equipment that we use, just like I can see you here very, very close, you know, like I can see your skin, I can see your pores, I can see the vents on your neck, you know, like that's how intimate IT is when you're looking through a twenty power optic.

So humanizes the target, yeah.

And I watching them breathe and I know and have a bullet flight of two to three seconds, so actually have to be watching how you're moving. So I need to know where you're going to be in two, three seconds from now. So I like learning so much about you and how you move.

And IT really connects me to you what is one problem um and then the other part is the the thing that with no one throughout all war, which is some people just can't do IT. It's not for everybody. Have you haxard ridge ever seen this movie? Read this book will have on our ciphered.

He was a conscientious objector. He would not hold a weapon. This is during war, war two. He would not hold a gun. He said he won't do IT.

He was again to his faith and during one of the island invasions in the pacific he rescued like the hundreds of americans and um get short, gets stabbed, gets a blown up and he just keeps going up the Cliff and grabbing these americans and everybody the bed the Cliff has no idea who keeps lowering down these americans. And they had found out that IT was the guy that they had been trying to kick out the unit because he wouldn't fight. And not everybody needs to fight.

There's there's a beautiful poem written about the warrior. There's a hundred men that go to war. Eight of them should even be there, you know like there are just bags of blood.

They're going to be running ford to die. Um ten of them we're going like they are the men that are going to Carry the the war like there are the ones you're going to gotten fight. No, then there's the remaining ten and then they're they're incredible.

They are brave their courageous their leaders. But then there's the one right there's the one that's gona bring all them in home. And that's the that's the markest trials. That's that's the decoder market. That's the that's the extraordinary that the andy stumps know you know some these guys .

text this morning.

great human, and it's nice orange.

Yeah.

I stole IT from him. Well.

right? You actually took IT off his back.

No, no, he he's lay down and set IT down. And I took IT and I put IT in my bag and then I left with IT.

right? So and is looking at you thinking of familiar? I was just if was history diverse.

but i'm like ninety percent sure that I was his. okay. So like ninety percent that I .

stole that that is nice, that is nice. Um is there anyone market trial to code? Is there anyone that you have heard about or you served with that you wish that story would be Better known? Is that someone or the incidents that you wish that you could sort bring to public light more? Give me some .

roy benefit as you know, not believe this one OK roy benefit is his um in vietnam he's a taxi and he um he sitting on a ford base and he listens to a special forces. O, D, A, he's especially his Greenberry get the gun fight. He's like, this sounds bad.

Helicopter goes in to try to get some dudes. He get scuffed, comes back with a bunch of bull holes. And roy runs up to the helicopter is like, he, anna, go with you.

Take me back in there. He throws a gmo. The helicopter takes on his own honor.

Fly him back toward the O. D. A. Has almost all been massacred.

He goes, starts leaving the remaining men that are all busted up. All of them were wounded. Most of them are dead.

He gets them to start fighting back to the con and starts pushing them back. He gets all of them together and they start um surviving for a little bit. Helicopters are trying to come get them out through the course of that.

I think he gets like seventy, eighty or ninety bullet wounds, fragmentation from grenades and ban net wounds. He kills the dude with a rock. Kills are dude with a bennet.

There is a portion where one of the helicopters is trying to take off, but that has so much they overloaded with the wounded and dead. He's running along alongside of IT, with a machine gun providing support with his body and a machine gun laying down supporting fire as his helicopters trying to take off. Helicopter comes back again.

He gets the last remaining bits of equipment. He gets the last few men back onto the helicopter, he's the last guy, come, gets jumped, get stuck with the band that takes the ban out out, kills the dude, kills a couple of more dudes, hopes in the helicopter, falls over, they they are the helicopter lands, he's covered in blood. He's covered in mud and um they're like this study dead they thrown in dead body bag so they can thrown me in the morning and they are sipping about the thing up.

He goes and he spits in the doctor's face. He couldn't talk. He had been so wounded there's nothing that he could do besides spit on this due.

I'll let me know that you're still alive. Is that oh my god, roy, benefits is still alive. That's a good one.

You you gotten gordon black k down. No um I can do this without cme. Okay.

good, good luck. You've with a .

black .

cocks .

down battle. Mobile issue, they're in there to get this terrorist leader. And the plan was for doctor force to come in on top of this building.

The rangers come up to create a premier security premier around this building. Well, they find the bad guy inside. Move him to the vehicles and they all drive out together.

That was the plan. Like my person said, everybody has a plan until get hit in the face. Guys get in.

They get the bad guy. Rangers arrive. Helicopter gets struck by RPG in the tail. Helicopter crashes. Um this then begins this horrific battle against a bunch of different terrorist organizations, all trying to kill the rangers and delta force that are now trapped. Mog issue and it's I mean, this is a fight.

Thirty, forty to one odds in ratio between terrorists, two american Operators SHE gotten gorden, or two special forces nippers that are in a helicopter providing overwatch. One of the helicopters that get shot and crashes is getting overrun by all of these insurgent militia terrorists. They see on the ground that this helicopter, that some of the people inside of IT survived the crash, and they see small arms fire.

They see flashes from these guys trying to protect themselves. They get on the radio on their like, general. We would like permission to go in and protect these guys.

If we don't get down there, they're going to get over run. We can see everything the generals like negative. You do not have permission. You can not be put on the ground. And I understand .

why did they not give commission.

So they call again five minutes later. They like, if we don't get on the ground right now, everybody, that helicopters going to die, generally, no denied. You cannot go down there.

You see Better than weekend that there is no way for us to get you out. If you go on the ground, IT is going to add to the problem. It's two more people.

They get a third time. Sir, with your permission, please allow us to get on the ground. We'll fight to the helicopter.

We will create a premier, a security permission from these guys, and we will protect them until we get a time to get these guys out. The generals like, I don't know when that's going to be. If you go on the ground, I can send the to you. I have no more helicopters to send to you.

I have no resources to go in rescue the people in the helicopter and um dann an amazing book, the pilot that was in a helicopter um he tells in his book the most dangerous time to be taken captive is like the first few minutes there's like this bloodlust. There's like rapid rage. So the helicopter crashes, right? And like, think like you're an insurgent to your terrace on the ground.

We we've got right? Like you're russian and you're just killed in everything. So like there has to be this law if anybody has a chance to survive.

So a garden gordon talk the general, after three efforts into putting them on the ground, these two delta for special forces, snippets from my, from, like, the school that I went to. It's the best snapp ers school. The planet.

These dudes fight from their infall point to the helicopter, and they kill literally everybody, like if there was anybody within two hundred meters that was holding a gun, they went on the ground, leaky of blood and dead, they get to the helicopter. And this is all explained in dan's book, because he was the one that survived. He was the one that they went to rescue.

He was the one that they ultimately gave their life to save. And they did just that. They grab him, they drag out of the out of the helicopter, they bring him into the building, and then they go back out to the helicopter.

They give him an M P. Five and they say, anybody that comes in behind us stop them because we're onna fight to slow because like this big huge surge like this I you've seen like what riots kind of start giving that energy and like people start pulsing. Yeah so that fever is there.

They're just trying to keep that at bay. And they run out of rifle mo, they run out of they start acquiring weapons off the ground and they run out of Daniel o and they end up with pistols and they're like bear nuckles fighting these guys and shooting the remaining pistol rounds as they have before. Ultimately, they're both killed and they save his life.

And sugarland gordon new and I just this is this is the hard one. They knew they're gna die like there's not a there's not a way that you're sitting in a helicopter like that, unlike we'll survive this. When that question is there is no greater thing than to lay your life down for another service right here, we are full circle.

They knew that they're gonna die for the chance to save a due. I have asked myself this question a thousand times, like, what would I do? And I don't know. 嗯， sugar, tn, gordon. Pretty red men, I could go on for hours talking these stories because if you if there's a part of you that is lacking purpose, sometimes you can find inspiration from somebody else's purpose.

And there I think there's been times, like, look at the israel like do I have to go over there? Is this where I really need to go? And those questions of, like, should I be there is is in I just another pond of these large strategic influences? Should I be at the mexico? Where should I be in ukraine? Should I be in afghanistan? But maybe that purpose is just to be part of something that's bigger, Better than yourself.

And then the answer is, yes. Here I am. Sent me like an I S X. A is a story .

that you had when you run out of amo as well. I seem to remember hearing .

that from you. Yeah, that's not a great plan. You're in the military as best you can.

Never been a gunfight and run out of amo. That, yeah, I was an old gone value. Afghanistan in two thousand eight got blown up and we ve, they .

couldn't get .

M O resupplies into us. The gun fight was so intense. We have arty thirty three, we have home fees.

We had supporting special forces commanders at work with us. We ran out of emo, like, that's wild. That's a gun fight.

How long was that firefight?

Three days in, a couple of days out. So maybe five days, commendably of done fighting .

what you mean in now.

So we are moving a group of track special Operations into this firebase called firebase anaconda. And we had to go through this valley to get to fire base anaconda. And the topography was really advantages for the taliban, and everything was kind of stack against us.

But we had to get this unit in there because fire based anaconda have been isolated. If you google fire based anaconda, they have, I think, two or three times been overruns by the taliban, like climbing over walls. And they're fighting for their the fuck chose .

to put this thing that that's a great question, is stupid idea put that .

there are also surrounded, therefore, for foreign fighters. Are you easily that that area is easily accessible to foreign ghz? IT is like the perfect storm in the worst place to be um O D A seventy two will shut up to you guys because they held that base um Better than anybody ever has throughout the home tech and my two best friends in the world, their old O D A.

But we are trying to get the check special forces to firebase anaconda, and you had to pass to this value. And that's where we got blown up and attacked and ambushed, and then we had to fight for a while. And then once we got to fire base and icon a and we'd scutt up, you know, we kill like three, four hundred foreign fighters and taliban on our way in like that, really like we kicked the hornett nest.

So then all of the other organizations were sending all of their people because then they knew that we had to leave, because our job is to bring those guys in. We left. I put this in my book, and I can't remember off the top my head. Now we left with a couple hundred trucks, and we arrived with like a couple dozen. That was crappy.

So if you're in earn a situation like that were you need to be fighting for five days straight like you can't be awake and functioning well for all of that time. So you're trying to grab thirty minutes of rest, whatever you can.

I don't remember like trying to get rest. I remember being underneath a harvey and I woke up and I don't know how I got to underneath that humane and I don't know how long i've been underway that hubby and I heard like so there's somebody like shooting towards you or just like and then there's somebody shooting at you would just like the snap and then .

there's wise.

the snap. The snap is is the bullet crest like coming past .

you and right and pushes .

and there's bang. And I think the ball is so close you hear the bang of the rifle, you hear the pop of the supersonic, and then you hear the literally the hundred and fifteen grain or two hundred fifty grain thing going pass your face and i'm laying there. And I hear as IT like, goes past as humble and hit something metal in my vicinity. And I wake up, and then I was like, and I like, i'd over pressure sickness. So it's like shooting my pants.

What's over precious .

sickness somewhere? It's like being, and it's not being used. IT is being contest. okay? So like a bunch of small concussions from explosions and I S and R P, G S and fifty calls and eighty four s like all the things that we are shooting at them and all the things that they're shooting at us, all of those things go with air. And that's happening around your head so that sucks and then were an altitude and i'm sleeping .

underneath a home .

viewer probably not a great place while shaking yourself yeah while you're shaya self um I smell like that that was pretty take anyway so yeah I don't know when I slap, I just like occasionally will wake up. And when I was writing that the scarce and stripes and I went back and I talk to how much people that were there with me um one of my friends mike, he died in twenty nineteen, afghanistan. He was with me. He saved my life that day, my global I walk up to a door.

I don't know how he knew this um because I woke up, I walk up and i'm about to push the door open and as soon as I touch the handle of the door and it's a push door, he shows he always like we're kind of physical like we're all almost always gna fight over something stupid I got matter him because he was Carrying a pistol through a village and he won a pistol kill as like you're sit on a machine gun. Why would you be holding a pistol? Put your pistol away.

I went up this fighting the team surgeon co. And separated. Like, we're always like, really rough. So he shows me and I, I like fall back and I like, get ready.

Like where in the middle of gunfight and i'm about to, like start a big fight with him because he shows me and the whole door starts can treated by machine gunfire. There's A P, K, M on the other side. And I don't know if you like heard the boat drop.

I don't know if you heard the selector switch. The safety and poor I don't know if you just had like an intuition if there's six sense divine intervention he shows in the whole jorge that starts construed mike gobal and. Hero I was.

Everybody learned about him. There's another multiple tours, countless lives. He saved more people. He rescued my hero. My english, I I can't even say his last name because ever because he's stolen. But the fog war, when I went back and talk to all these guys, they remembered a whole bunch of things that I didn't remember. And we in some cases, the things that we were remembred were in conflict of each other.

I thought that happened this way. No, I didn't IT happened that way. That's right.

They got a bunch of women and kids that got hurt after that door got treated. Because when the door got pushed open, I saw a machine and barrel sticking out of this tiny, a little window. And I take a grenade, a frag grenade, and I throw IT through that window. The grenade goes off.

And a few seconds later, here, bunch of women and children screaming a few seconds later, can be anything in the brain and war, right? That might have been ten minutes, but I remember IT being like, very shortly after, like I was responding, my grenade on the outside of the building, my friend mike k. Was on a big, heavy machine gun pounding this, this compound, whether he saw a unch of insurgents fighting out of IT, specifically that room where those women and children were.

So for ten years I lived with, like, i'm the one that hurt these, these people that had been used as body shields by the terrorists. And he, for ten years had assumed that he was the one that had heard everybody and he was living with that for ten years. We boat in right like it's war.

That's how do you think about that? That's certainty of the things. You know, when people hear stories like that, especially if they're not familiar with collateral damage and the imprecision that happens, especially when going house to house, especially if the terrorists are using civilians as body shield or if you're just going door to door with things that families and people in that. How do you think about pater's damage in that way? The fact someone who didn't do anything wrong that is in the midst of two people trying to kill .

each other yeah um obviously amErica wants no collateral damage. If you go back to um or or two you launched a surprise attack against us in perl harbour and we fight you all the way back to mainland and take every single island that you use to own and then make IT hours and then we tell you to surrender you don't we drop a nuclear bomb on you. Then we tell you surrender, you don't, and we drop another nuclear bomb and we tell you to surrender.

And if you don't, we're going to drop another nuclear bomb on you like that when in a war that's that's we in a war in a way that we can't, we don't have appetite to win wars anymore. Um the moral equivalency of terrorist organizations like cmos and has blown in the taliban ka an they intentionally use civilians as wheels. They intentionally use hostages as shields.

The intentionally manipulate the battle field for the moral consequence of the fighting force that has to fight against IT. They want to hurt our souls. They want to hurt the civilians.

Because if the civilians get hurt by us, as we're trying to be strategic and targeting the bad guys, not that we don't want any claro damage or we want zero, but they make IT. So IT is impossible for us to be successful without any form of cloud damage. And that's exactly what they want because that, that continues.

It's another spoke in the wheel of their propaganda, a machine. So then they say, look, look, all these women and children were hurt because the americans are, the israelis came in here. No, no, you did that on purpose.

You are hiding um a rocket launcher at a hospital. You are hiding A A bunch of arms in a school. And then you put all the kids in the school and you wanted us to target that.

And then you leaked out information that those weapons were in the school and that, and then you also get information that high level leaders were there at the specific time. So of course, we targeted that time to get the high level leaders and the weapons, but then you put kids in there. Anybody that tries to conflate this more occurrences tly between, like the hamson israel else response, you can just separate them in this one specific idea, one group of them, or hiding behind the civilians.

And they use that as leverage an opportunity to create more propaganda. The other group is doing everything in their power to limit civilian casualties and any former general damage. And the line of departure between those two could not be more clear.

And anybody that says anything else is ignorant and told he does not understand or is so in um confirmation bias, trying to support the set of beliefs that are not based on fact. They could not be more than similar. And shame on anybody that conflict us too.

I was speaking about the negative aci bomb blast. Do you know the forgotten highlander by alister irk? T, no, dude, I got, i'll get this book for you.

It's my favorite non fiction, a sort of real life story. So this guy is a scotch dude who goes to singapore in world war two. Japan is is the war.

He gets captured by the japanese, and for the next four years goes through more than, I think, pretty much anyone that i've ever read about. So this guy is put in fourth labor for the best part of two and half years, is made to help build the bridge over the river quiet. He's basically permanently got every tropical disease, including decently for all of this time.

He's being mistreated. Then one of the camp gods tries to rape him. So instead of allowing him do that, he kicks him in the nuts and runs away. He then gets locked in a ten box in the middle, the sun to basically just cut to death, doesn't die.

Then after that, gets put on to one of these japanese hell ships, which doesn't have the swiss cross on the side that gets top dot by american submarine, doesn't die, finds a small piece of flower and float in IT, has to fight a japanese soldier in the water, one in like a little bucket, and the other on this piece of flower doesn't die, lands the shore and is free briefly, but then gets recaptured. No, put back to work, gets knocked off his feet by the bomb blast from negative. I still doesn't die.

And then for fifty years keeps quiet. Biog of the british government and finally writes this memo, a to bring the japanese to account for the atrocities that they went through because we had the neuron burg trials. We had this sort of call to arms for what germany had done.

But the equivalent thing didn't seem to happen in the same way for the japanese. The book is outrageously good. It's called the forgotten highlander.

outrageous. I mean, yeah, it's really good. Other thing as well, I remember this is great, is that word war two, the front lines, it's on netflix at the moment. So they used A I to colorize and make four k all of this sort of archive, which is very strange because you're not used to seeing older timmy war in a more viBrant sort of real way.

It's always ark footage has this IT gives you a sense of distance by not being a shop, right? You you are talking about the snipe is able to see the face, the expressions of the person, and IT humanized them. This really humanized of the story.

Much I can end of this. It's it's pretty rough, but it's also fascinating because it's so much more immersive. Um if the japanese hadn't decided you're going to surrender, the U S.

Was basically preparing the largest land invasion in history. So, right, right. And they were, I think there was still unsure about whether or not japan was actually going to surrender because I was like, we will fight to the last man said.

behind every single blood of grass would be a japanese soldier or a civilian with a sd. Behind every blade grass in japan, in in the mainland. So america, when we looked like why we drop to nuclear bombs, that would have cost, that cost .

fewer lives, million, that's right.

So like we dropped two nuclear bombs, saved millions of lives. Yes, I did try to explain that, you know, going to twenty twenty four.

what's IT like to be shot of you being shot? I have OK what's you .

feel like um so i've never have been fut shown war and and for me protecting um it's a really weird things seen a barrel pointed at you and then seen the flash. Um I was obviously body armor and and I was being really particular so I like roll my shoulders back and I hold us standing like this and I pulled my chin back. I don't want any like slag or things coming up into my neck round of my shoulders of my arms.

I've seen friends get shot war and i've obviously shot people um like the receiving end of. In a gun fight when. My friends had a around go through like his growing and IT nested his like for more artery.

But he's like ball started, like swilling up. So like a little bit of slag, like a little bit of like a fix I wind up into is not sex. And I started like bleeding in there and arted back. But he didn't realize that he'd even been hurt or hit until, like, he had a dragon balls, know he was still like.

That wasn't .

like that yeah what is going to come down here and um there in banda brothers there's this amazing scene where. This guy, this grenade goes off and he looks down, he sees that he's bleeding below the waste and the medic runs open and he's like, actually, he like, cut him, cuts his trousers open. He's like, abro, you're good. Like your dick balls are still good stay with me you got the world of fight now you like IT is like the essence of when you think about warriors um like their warriors in every sense and their mainlander and that masculinity are very much in .

the sad dc lown off. Yes possible but the ballot question .

like a mostly like like IT I got hit holy yeah what the fuck do you see this you .

know like they don't even .

recognize that there's a bullet hole in their ARM or like i'm trying to use my armers not working.

I guess you ve got this cascade of homos called is all the a all the rest of IT. So it's just like, I don't know that's what that I was so interested to work out how much pain this is, how much surprise there is. I I have that sort of A I snot my Kelly, which is the most traumatic injury that i've had pretty nasty injury yeah ah and the first thing that I felt wasn't pain IT was surprised as like today, why is my leg not and I thought to myself, I wonder how many people know we think about your final moments on this planet, being you thinking of your loved ones, or or you in pain, or you in fear, or you in whatever I think surprise will be up there as one of the leading emotions that people pass away with. Did I just get fucking?

I hope so. That's a great way to go. You, when i'm honey, I tried to a really ethical honor. And you know, I I even try to be on the left side of surprise. Know, like the animals just sit .

in their eat great before .

IT has chance to. What was that? Oh, no, there's nothing can even figure out what I was.

It's just blacked ness now, I don't know. I can't think of a time where I was hurt in. I mean, even in the fights in the U. F, C, cut wide open like this was robby lower this was you all a marrow um this was a rocky susa know I got one from look rockhill right here um in in after the fights the u fc fight dog he'd come to stich me close and and he d walk in with like a local and like I I don't want that he like, yeah i'm serious saw my face closed and I never let let him give me any form of painkiller I wanted feel IT but I didn't really feel IT and then in the cage I definitely didn't feel IT that sounds .

like a really hard thing to do but your bodies just producing such yeah and also.

I mean, there's a bit of me that wanted to feel like like I made this mistake. I want I want to remember this mistake like the purpose of pain. I'm writing a book right now called the purpose of pain and um the lessons that we learn from pain or I think the most important lessons, emotional pain.

Like a bat out of my league, my k that crazy latino girl that's like an eleven. I'm totally gonna be with this one and then he tries to stab at night. Um you like maybe you batted that really grow like go to seven and similarly like I I touch the stove and I burned my hand. I know that not to touch the stove again you know like I think back to all the mistakes and the humilation in the shame that I made as as a Young man and now as i'm hoping to be an improved man, i'm like, I don't want to do that again. I remember what that embarrassment felt like.

You've worked quite hard to try. You know, we've spent a good bit of time together since I been not enough, by the way. Yeah, I know that's your fault. IT is my fault, but I passed my driving test finally because there's no license equivalency, but that means I can drive up and see you up north. But you spend an .

all a lot of .

time trying to do everything the way that you want to do anything um whether it's with alcohol, with training. We did a session, came up to me and roka I didn't done any cardio working quite a while and IT was a pair workout that was going to last maybe thirty minutes or something in four stations, three stations. He came up to me and he pointed the finger in your, in my face and he said, there's one thing that one, not onna, be that's last.

That was quite motivating my point being, do you think that you're a good man now because you have this back drop of not believing that you were a good man? When you think about you, who do you see? Do you see the old ten are usually paying reparations? How do you how do you think about that?

I mean, what is IT will get philosophical like what is a good man I think IT a man should always be judged by his actions and um obviously if if you look back appears my life my actions were not in support of being a good man I mean even some of the motivations of when is going overseas like all these idealistic things about, hey, you can go and make a place a more stable and and sovereign you can give them democracy like there's a really great ideas but there is also a twenty five year old version of tim that was like, I want to go and get in the fight.

You know, like, I want you to say something so I can knocked your team and I am happy to be bouncer at the door for the opportunity to do violence. All of those obviously are not great characteristics um and so even though I was doing good things, I was looking for an opportunity to tube do bad things. Now if we are what we do, what are the things like?

If anybody were to take a step back and look at their life, and you're spending eight, ten hours a day working at a job that you don't love to go back to a woman that you don't appreciate to be around kids that you don't, anna, feed and nurture and be intentional with, are you a good person I don't I don't think so um but you can have the exact same situation where you work in eight and ten hours a day to be the best provider you possibly can for the woman that you love that you know he needs to um that you want to be able to support and provide for and put you know good food on the table for the kids that you love to support them going to club score sports or to a private score to get them out of this crappy public education thread. Like the only thing that change there was the action still the same, but the purpose was different there. And so now for me, my purpose and my actions are an alignment, and they they didn't use to be. And now I very much try to, to have those things be complemented. IT sounds like you'd LED with .

action and then allowed the intention to kind of catch up to that. Yeah.

the wheel were always spinning, but the car was always pointed in the right direction.

I think that's an easiest way to do. IT. One of my friend's alex talks about, I felt much Better about myself when I started judging myself on my actions, not on the thoughts that I had. And I think that that's a really good first step, especially if .

someone is unsure .

about our virtuous, they might actually be deep down. Well, maybe they're cowardly, or maybe the untrustworthy or maybe they don't fulfill their potential or maybe they shy away from hard things. So whatever IT might be the first place to start, I think the easiest place to start is to just change the things that you do and then allow intention to catch up after that. Because do, it's so hard, it's so hard to change our sense of self. You know, how long if he worked at IT to try and basically, you know, pay recon pants, you know, this kind of like life of flag lation like self flag lation in in service of something to be like and finally, maybe i'm a good man, but I think it's wait, easier to start with action then IT is to be like, I think i'm a good man and then this is going to go ahead because you're always not gonna know yeah.

I could not agree with more when people are asking. And I get asked all the time, what should I do? Like, do anything.

Just start, you know, like, cool. You want to be a police officer. Will start developing the characteristics that make you good. One, start learning Grace in different cultures. Join Judith es, start shooting, learn what that means to be like somebody that wants to protect somebody and sacrifice a portion themselves at fort fort, the expensive themselves for the benefit of another, like these are things that we have to have, and somebody that is a servant who you want to go to the military, learn in another language. If you are not planning your future, somebody else you gona be planning your future for you.

So if you don't know what your purposes, sometimes you can just start doing things that will make you a Better person and those things will give you purpose. And that's okay. Um sometimes the car is before the horse and that's okay.

You know like I didn't know as a firefighter emt first, then I want to the police academy to come a police officer, you know, to go and hunt down sero killers. And the nine eleven happened, and I enlisted in special forces. And then from there I went to other specialty schools to go to special units.

And then from there I started this dragani ags are going to rescue people over the planet. And now i'm working within the military, in a military capacity like my official w to like, save soldiers and help with recruiting, and to talk about messaging and clearly communicate how great of an organization, that is, how wonderful is to be part of this organization, to do something impactful that means more than yourself. If you take a step background, he's always kind of been going in this direction.

The wheels were always spinning. IT has been in perfect. And now that there is momentum and a little bit experience and plenty of failure now, now there's were starting to see positive impact. But men, I took twenty five years.

Yeah, it's a slow you know, to chip away at whatever sense itself and to adjust the course. IT is like a moving a freier. No, it's one half degree every single year.

And right OK. Finally, I can actually get this thing to swing around. Are there any you mentioned that memory before of I thought I was the grenade and he thought IT was the machine gun. That's obviously something that to played on your mind. Are there any other memories that sort of a common recurrences for you with someone who got away, someone who didn't?

Yeah a man week ago. We could spend hours time about this cause there's a squatter out of a house in iraq what's I mean um so you go to this building and you like attack this building. IT was a bomb maker that's like this I D bombing kers house.

And I was myself in this uh other colleague, this of mine were on one side of the house and we see this guy running down this road. Now we are fairly confident that that guy came from this building. And if he came from that building, he's a military age man outside during curfew and came from a target house.

Does he fall within our engagement rules? Yeah, he does. This is like peak war.

This is like where one hundred percent or we able to shoot that. I we didn't. We go to a follow on target and we get a pretty good fight. Um clearly that guy and this is assumption.

I don't know this, but I think this guy went and told them that we were coming and they got ready for us to come that weigh on you like that was my fault like why don't I just press the trigger um and shoot this guy in the back at night as you're I twitching? It's a hard question, and it's not a question that I wish my son is ever asked. But like, that's the question I was asked.

And you go back another ten years. A nineteen year old firefighter, A M, T, there is a school van. This missionary van that's driving on the one of one is just north of sallus baseball, california, just south of attack to california.

The driver falls asleep, maybe seventy, eighty miles hour. 嗯， the car spins and tumbles out of control. And these women and children in this fifteen pack van are just launched out of every single window. And when my fire truck arrived on scene in middle of night, you know, I group in this area were in very kind of agricultural. When we roll up, the dust was still settling.

And through the emergency lights and the headlights IT created like a hora film, kind of ora, you know, like the dust, you can see everything, but then I can still smell the fall dry grass, and I can still smell the the no moisture in the, in the soil that was like hanging in the particulates in the air. And I can still hear. Now we shut off the sir, as we roll upon the scene.

And I don't know how we didn't run over people because bodies were everywhere. And thank god we didn't we we get out and I can hear I see what we call walking wounded. There's people wandering around holding their arms that are like dislocated and broke.

And you see this compound fracture, this guy like coding in his leg. And but then we hear like the mounds of a child, not the screams of a child that is hurt. But the the pain is so seriously, can't even cry anymore.

That's a different sound entirely. and. That truck, we just go to work. I'm a Young firefighter, emt. I don't know anything. You know, I I graduated from em t school in the fire academy six months ago, and I had this really senior parameter, an engineer.

His name was tom way and we start working on all these people and you know were trying to stabilize these people and we're trying to tree o she's going to be evacuated first. I remember I hear tom on get on the radio and he calls the station number one because there's two fire stations in a task to like, just send everyone you like. If they can get on a truck, if they can get on an ambuLance, get them here.

Every volunteer, every paid called firefighter, send everyone who had got fifteen people that just say, that takes four, five people per body. You know, do you need a lot of firefighters and paramedics empties? So I start working on this little girl.

SHE was eleven maybe, and everything on her was always hurt. You know, like, I couldn't see him inch of her body that wasn't broken. And i'm strong. I was in as a professional active of this point already, and I can't remember.

Remember telling myself, like, how do you touch this girl without hurting her? Like, how do you help her without causing more damage? Like, um, she's not breathing, right? He was like this recipe innovation with broken ribs. And tom way comes over and tom goes, I have this term go find someone else and he just pushes me and I like launches me and um I go and I start helping I start helping trios and separating and segregating the people that are going to be immediately transported and and the ones that have to be like evacuated directly to hospital.

And I thought that that girl died my whole entire life until four years ago and and I thought tom, in his wisdom, was trying to save a Young man from the failure of saving this little girl's life. The last sentence of of this chapter of my book, when I found in the research of this book that that girl survived was fucking time, way. That guy not just saved me, but he saved that little girl.

And I play back. Had I stayed there, had I been that stub burn boy that I knew that I was, and I tried to save that girl, I would have killed her. But fucking tom, way he comes in, he saves this eleven year old broken girl. And I go off and I do the thing that you'd eight thousand year old guide to do just like, you know, great people won't Carry him. The ambuLance is no like .

harl that's right.

And um may I lived with that for twenty five years of I killed that little girl. I get home that night. I'm covered in blood. You and I walk in the front door and I member my dad.

He comes to the jorn is like Keith ayson, who is the captain of the time he had called my dad and said he, tim had a real tough call tonight. sure. OK and I walk in the front door and I like a dad.

I go take a shower or i'm going to go to bed and my dad like, why did you go take a shower before your mom? And I like, no, i'm fine. I just going to go crash.

I'm covered in blood and mud, and I going to go fall down on my bed and I didn't realize I couldn't walk, I couldn't breathe, and I and I crying. I actually never said anything of my dad. I was just trying to move past him to go to my bed. You will talk about like emotional and mental overload and my dad recountings ss, to me he's like you never said anything to them to me that night. I just try to move you to the shower to get you cleaned up and then lay you down and this is the first time that I ever personally experienced, uh post traumatic stress um and in my family d we'd experiences lots of different forms of of death and trauma but this was something that was like very me and remember like they said, I had to go to you know a group trauma class is like flat or need to go to that my dance like bro, you're gna go to that. And yeah, you've been working .

with a lot of veterans at the moment on this stuff. What's the current state of veteran mental health? What are you seeing in them? And what about yourself as well?

Yeah yeah it's been really hard after twenty years at war. There's a failure of I think there's a feeling of failure is A G globe warn teer, iraq, afghanistan, north africa. Um now we're standing on the back side of IT and were the reason that where there is questionable the actions that we took, why where there is questionable .

part of the people that you are fighting on behalf of this .

questionable ah the people coming home that should be receiving us as servants to this country are looking at us like. A bombing, you know like we're broken is the .

same in vietnam. Am to some degree as well.

Ah very very is just talk to do a vietnamese IT he's like so I can run that with you have living through all this again that's what he said exactly almost verbatim. He said in I know what you're feeling and soldiers .

regret .

and yet there they're struggling. I could do you struggling um Young men first coming back from deployments are struggling and then men that want to go on deployments but then missed IT because time means really hard like A A unit will deploy and you arrive in the unit and your unit has already gone. That unit then gets um has some casualties and returns. The guy that didn't go has a ton of survivors guilt .

even though they didn't survive. They missed missed guilt, but I mean the the the same thing.

And those guys are also dealing with a bunch like they didn't actually experience any trauma.

They didn't even get to contribute that right?

And IT just eats and a and and IT eats their soul on IT. You know that poisonous that the vessel um so .

just when reject that, have you got any idea why survive a guilt would exist like adaptively evolutionary what is that therefore is IT that you've seen other people pay a Price that you should have paid and you're concerned about not Carrying your weight within the tribe. Do you think .

that's what IT is? Yeah, evolution. If if we look, I should have been stronger, I should have been Better, I should have been more equipped, I should have been more capable. All of those things are responses to survivors guilt.

And if you web ize that, then in a tribe, if, if, if the the tribes war or goes to a battle and he comes back, they do OK, or maybe they could have done Better. And he comes back and he is like, I wasn't fast enough. I wasn't strong enough.

I didn't. I can throw my ero or I can throw my spare far enough. I can throw my arrow far enough. All of those things forces him and motivates him to come to become a Better persons. Like, I think there is some elements of that.

So survival.

yeah what of IT? And we've done a really terrible thing in america, which is told people that there's easy fixes to hard problems where you can take a pill and you're going to be Better. You can be take a pill and you're going to be less fat.

You can pick up your phone and you can have food delivered. It's just a lie. And when IT comes in mental health and physical health, those things seriously overlap.

Um when I people look at me.

I I think often is am a crazy person because um I work how how you do anything is how do everything well, I do everything this way so I can deal with all of the stuff that i've seen and i've done like I work out every single day.

But because I need to stay healthy, I eat clean, I sleep well, all like the lighting of all these millions of little things that I do to make sure i'm a healthy version myself is also also a mentally healthy version myself. One of my friends I was just visiting in a couple of days ago. No, he starts going through divorce.

He stops eating well, stops exercising, starts some drinking a little bit like you. You see that the ridings on the wall and everything, one of those steps is just one decision. Any one of those things is OK.

But when there's ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen of them, they're all compound in creating more depression and more instability on the mental health side. He can't cope with IT any longer and then he's like fantasy about suicide and this easy exit and he's trying to make, you know, permanent solution to a temporary problem. And we see IT time and time and time again. The only way that you can stay on this side of right is being faithful and intentional, and all of these little, tiny things. So yam tone to spending a ton of time on in this area, trying to encourage and go outside, you know, go right motorcycles, go be with your kids, you go grab your wife, take on a great date and um you all like have a great night with her and then have a great night sleep and then wake up, put a smile on your face and go to the gym and then not go hop in the sona and then go up in a blue cube and do fly a similar jd water emersion um and every single one of those things just makes you you know your code of armor gets a little bit thicker and a little bit stronger and and of course, this chance in my armor like like I have days that I struggle and but like I also watch these hero just like pink push. You know, try launch another one and I try to give this armor to other people because like it's a really great feeling when you don't when you you're not living in your life in fear and you're not struggling with depression and and you're not you not so free to be.

What are the U S. M forces getting right or wrong with them post Operation treatment and care for veterans yeah they're .

realizing its a total human optimization right like that's not uh here on to put this gun counselling that sure absolutely helps but i'm also get them give them access to great James. I'm to give them access to dieticians. I'm going to like we're going to be revamping the whole entire cy alone.

The former seac, the senior list advisor of the joint chief of staff, he just recently read tired. He has a great program where he's going to go across all the department defense and and he's a freak athlete, special Operations guy, tear level dude. He's going to all of the different organ to all of the different um departments and changing how they feel feel food.

So if you walk into A C hall or a the air force calls IT a dining facility. Um you know there's not a fast food I le where you can walk up and I want you know a cheaper worth fries. That's not a that's not an option anymore.

What IT is right now um you know you can get like spaetzle bales, no like go get a chicken and a salad fatty um and like the solar pops got to go um all the sugary sides, the deserts got to go, all the fried stuff s got to go um like there's going to be some party faces about IT, but that's what you have to do. So they're doing lot a lot of things, right? Um the military gives a ton of really great tools to a person.

They teach some leadership, they teach some communication. They give them great, you know they give them the tools to make quick critical decisions. Um we also now recognize that we give them bad habits, you know, we give them addiction to caine. We give them addiction to negative. We give them badge sleep phab ts. We put them in places just like native americans, when we put them in the worst plot land in the planet, and hope that they do OK you like to take a soldier, and you drop a soldier into A A not hospitable place, that soldier's is going to climatized compensate, yeah.

In a place that is in like have you ever been to clean to be a fun experiment for you? So if you drive one hour north to fort hood now for kv aos to dragani army base, that's one hour north of the city, that's just a Jason to IT is called clean IT is the most depressing place on the planet there is car dealership ships that target soldiers with twenty five percent interest rates for their you know twenty nineteen musters you know their strip clubs. There's um storage facilities that the soldiers is about to go employment. He has to put a stuff in storage and their like, but you know have good credit。 That's okay.

It's a parasitic industry that built up around the base.

Yeah to take advantage of Young men that don't have experience or avoid develop brain well is a man that's rough.

Yeah yeah it's um as talking to a Michael punky heggs you know .

Michael no.

i've got that name though so he was master chief. Wherever erect they a master sergeant, whatever. Those are two very .

different things. One of the navy once in the army once amazing one sucks.

Okay, I can't remember what you wanted. Is I feel like one of them. Is that not with the guy from hello as well? Anyway, he has been doing a psychiatric treatment, but he just sort of talked me through a bunch different chAllenges.

And there was lady time friends with and her husband's been struggling P T, S, D post as a veteran. I begin is the particular substance that they were using. And SHE.

Her husband have been battling alcoholism on his side for a long time. He's been trying to cope. And back in fourth twelve step program, all the rest of IT.

And they heard this episode maybe three years ago now, and he said, would you be able to put me in touch with Michael? And sure if we did. And the husband went into this treatment.

And as far as i'm aware, this is like a rough psychiatric at twenty four hour, incredibly deep, very extensively painful and IT does reset to the brain that is more powerful than most, pretty much anything and know is back and he's flourishing and all the rest of the stuff. But it's like it's it's not a one stop shop for everyone. I would just throw drugs and fix, change the time, change the friends of them. This global omi approach .

yeah the army of the D O D as a whole is allowing psychotic ics for, I mean which is wild, you know we are so slow to get there. Um I have a bunch of friends. I've never personally um experiences any drug and but I have a tone of friends that have you know traveled outside of the united states because IT wasn't allowed here in united states and dealt with some really serious trauma.

V S I S delicate, and they came back transformed tunes. I think they were like broken, depressed, suicidal, alcoholics, woman womanizing, like broken men in every way, ship form. And they come back my easy, like, I, I really, really want to be around you completely. And I like back amazing Young man that I remember twenty years ago.

What do you you wish if there's someone listening that has served just someone that suffer with sort of trauma in the past, what you wish that more people would hero realized?

You are not alone. There's every everybody that has served in some former fashion, especially war, is is Carrying baggage, emotional trauma and um and you're you're not alone. Not just that other people experiences but other people care about.

You like to get a big thing that everybody needs to know is like you feel so alone and isolated when you're in these really low moments. It's just not true, you know, if you go, if you're gone. The show Young, this stunning, beautiful staff and army just come in a suicide a couple of weeks ago.

She's ppos to be lost vegas with us a week. She's been in this community is a fitness influence SHE just like blind and just like bikini supermodel SHE suicide two weeks ago and her her daughter had a twelve year birthday, says, as she's a single mom, honey, i'm so proud of you. I love you.

Happy birthday a couple of days later, SHE commit suicide. What was SHE going through that he felt so alone, you know? And he had to have right? Unbeknown to her, there were there there are thousands of people that know her and um support her and wanted to be there for her.

But SHE felt alone and it's just not true. So everybody listening like the thing that I want them to know if they're not alone. The other big part is an individual responsibility part. Like we're saying, sometimes you can just start doing little things and tiny little steps that happen consistently over time. When you're in that moment of crisis, you put a little bit of time in space between you and a bad decision just a little bit, and you wake up in the morning and you walk outside where we been here in the rain. I want to go outside and run right back. No, I want to see the sun come up tomorrow and I can't want to go see my four year old to ight on ice and I can't wait to go home because i'm making pod pork sandwich is for the for the family is a domine um you know I can't wait to get weird with my wife and like all of the things I can't wait for are because of a bunch of little decisions make me look forward to tomorrow and even if and I go home and I pull a cork tonight, and I and I pull a couple of drinks and I start thinking about the mistakes that I made, the friends that have lost even that one, that bad decision, or a few of those bad decisions can hold up to all of the other things that i've done. right?

This momentum.

that's right. And I want to care that momentum in the life and the hope and into another day.

The problem is that the momentum goes in both directions, right? right? IT doesn't just go when things are going well. IT also continues when things are going poorly, and that's the escalating spiral that you can find .

themselves. I say there's no easy solution, but if you are really in crisis, you like nine one one, there's a phone over nine, eight, eight. Now you should pick the phone hit nine, eight, eight. And it's like the nine one one for you been in a bad, unhealthy place.

a risk yourself.

That's right. You pick up the phone. If you're a veteran, you literally just press the number one and that takes you to a veteran that specifically wants to know you and know about you and is is trained to total to you specifically.

While d we would never had this before, ever like this just happened this year. Pick the phone nine, eight and IT goes to a mental health hot line. And if you're a veteran, you press one. And IT goes to a .

veteran to talk to you wild sick speaking about bad decisions. What was that story of ice is making a credible threat against you.

Bunch of coverage though um so this is like peak californie know I is is taken over northern iraq and they'll starting to game ground and they're capturing people and are and american arms, they're selling IT on the black market. And I A bunch of land that we had fought for, we are losing the ISIS. They were also trying know they they had radical zed to hold on to mosques in the united states.

And I GTA call from the FBI saying that I is, was trying to recruit somebody locally to find me in my family, where we lived to come and kill us. And I, like, I can see that again. Now, guys, I get where they're trying to find somebody locally to kill in your family as I that spot and sick as such.

Great news you. I've been traveling in all of the world. What you're telling me is that these idiots are gonna to my house in texas, so I call my friend and that works for fox news like came. And can you put me on live and get my art to check IT out so my address, so I get live on fox news and I say my address live on fox television, as if you can send so anybody that you want to my house to try and kill me and my family just know you're never going to back to kill me.

How did yeah .

SHE likes like and out as SHE you like pop smoke just for like a day. But then SHE came my back because, you know, I got the goods and no narrow SHE was really mad but not IT wasn't surprising that they of course, they're so tough when there's like twenty of them and they attacked in a village that's unarmed with bunch of little girls. They they would even like deal with one man. They would like stand up when I say like be that somebody um in every situation IT always only takes one person fierce, contagious. But so is courage. You know when one person stands up and is like, no, this is wrong and then somebody else is like, yeah, there's something off about this I agree with that guy and then it's just like a title wave of courage just spontaneously combust among solid people they're like, fuck no, you can do this um you know I had hundreds of people being like, we will sit up on your street all night long you know we're sitting up rotating guards and I like, I don't want that. I need a colonus kill like what do I have to do?

What's a colonus kill?

Ah so when you go.

remember you're speaking to a muggle .

yeah when you go outside the continental U. S. And fight abroad, you are old ones, right? So like getting fighting and killing a terrorist and afghanistan, right? Um that's just like .

a war okon as a .

okonedo if you're in the the united states and let's say you are in kova and .

you're a Christmas .

party and this terrorist that has been radicalized walks in this Christmas party and plans to kill everybody because they think Christmas is bad as as to do a jesus, you know and they're like and you like about cons kill right sick.

Have you got one? No Brown .

IT yeah loser.

And was the any with forever anymore come happens about that .

now the FBI was pissed in me for a little while. Um the news was pissed. My wife was pissed .

um but you were excited I I was well, I was .

hopeful .

yeah yeah you immediately went on whatever IT is like .

big guns not come yeah hopes not a plan is distant pan out to be anything super funny story I was in the USA um the united states anti doping pool because of pressure athlete and I was driving home during this period. And I see this car and I kind of lived in this area that there's not a lot of through traffic. So I see this car following and makes a turn to turn, makes a turn like five turns later, they're on my street, and they slow down as I turned in my driveway, and he pulls up in front of my house. And by the time, you know, he puts his vehicle in the park, he is a gun, he is his face.

right? You would have shot that you saw a, got that action this like.

all right.

let's go get my piss. I imagine that there's a lot of athletes that would have probably quite .

like to have shot you .

said a guy Jones would probably been able to shoot. I solution for him.

I don't think he needs any more drama. What a talented athlete though.

A bio fire, have you heard of this? So it's a smart gun that was invented by a guy who started working on IT after the arora atto shooting, fingerprint and facial recognition and IT only fines. If the right persons, what do you you think .

of smart guns? They're stupid. I don't want that or so can my wife?

Should ogan you add users to the profile?

yeah. Who controls that profile? See you supposed .

just you like safety .

that are only supposed to access unless the F, B, I calls the manufacturing its permission to gain access to my safe, that the pino warned .

that happened this year, probably not as secure, is that you've .

got stupid to no, I didn't right. This was a something that happened this year. Skin example of, okay, if anybody else has.

So this second met thing, nobody gives me authority to this inherent right for me to protect myself in my family. The government is not saying that I got to protect me in my family. This is my god given right to protect me in my family.

This is not somebody as access to a program to give me the tool to protect my family. I just have this right. And I have should have access to any tools that item necessary to protect myself, my family, my property and even more, by extension, freedom.

So against the tyrannical government, but over government overreach, you know, it's it's not just like hunting sports and me and my family, this is hunting sports me in my family. And if the government gets too big and gets too noisy in my life, this is what happened in seven, seven, six. Like, we were pretty cool until we weren't cool. And then you guys started asking too much of us and then we said no and then we killed all you that I know this is a hard thing.

is a very difficult. We have survived two july false since i've been here. I actually wore A T shirt that said, happy trees and day on grateful colonials. I wore that on on july fourth last year.

Yeah, it's a hard thing to wrap yourself around, unless this is what pumps in service should be pumping. In americans, blood is like we are rebels. We have always been rebels.

You cannot tell me what to do. There is nothing that you can say to me everything. One of those beautiful moment in that fantastic won the best.

Pieces of words ever put together in history is the constitution, and IT says that those are god given rights, and nobody has a right to control those. And freedom speech, freed of religion from the press, like overreached to you, come into my home, like to process the right to bear arms. All of those things are my rights. So like, no, I don't want a system, I don't a fingerprint, I don't want feature facial recognition, I want a cannon, and I want a gatlin gun, mini gun attached to my motor ycl, and I want a tank, and I should be able to have IT.

Pretty sure the black rifle guys, i've got a many going to a touch to a tesla.

did that? You know, that was mattered, right?

But you've played around right? Okay, we were .

trying to talk elon musk into building a tribal that would launch .

a tesla at what? At anything? An enemy? no.

Oh my god, sure be awesome. I mean, in the election, c vehicle should just be launched into the stratosphere, except tesla, because they're pretty fast and a pretty cool.

yeah. Talk to me about the state of the american education system, something you're spending a lot of time yeah thinking about and assessing .

at the moment. We're go to the genesis of IT, which is as an employer and as a senior on commission officer, me looking at the people come into work for me and either one of these occupations and looking at this population of this generation and be like. You're dumb, like you literally are an idiot.

You have you can barely read. You have no way to collaborates. You have no creativity in you.

There's there's not even a speck of genius in there. And there's no great. There's no teamwork. There's you have you have you've been taught how to be a consumer. You've been taught how to sit there is a lemon, and go through some systems and processes of, like, sit here, use this pencil, use this paper right this way, do this thing, you get this grade to take this test, to then say that you've pass that level.

What how is that applicable to real life? How can somebody go through public education and then think that they're going to be usable in the real world as a creator, a designer, a teammate in any former fashion, in any industry? They're not.

They're not been taught anything useful. They don't have to baLance a checkbook. They don't have how to change a car tire.

They don't have to fill up a car. They don't know how to like. They know nothing about the world. They know how to do a spread sheet for a profit law statement.

Like the second raters in in, in our school take a product, they design the product, they take the product to market, they market the product. And then they go back to the school and they give a presentation about the performance of the product in the market. So we had this adorable little girl take a bunch of Mason Charles SHE won't, but connecting sand.

And then he went by toy is that were themed. SHE took alone from her parents for a couple hundred dollars, and he built a bunch of these massagers. Some had astronauts and like space things in them.

Some of them had like mermaid and fish in them, and he used blue sand. Some of them were like Green sand and Brown sand with dinosaurs. And he sold them for twenty five dollars. The farmers market SHE made a couple thousand dollars SHE pair parents back the the few hundred .

dollars that he took .

away from yeah and then he went back and briefed her p nl. On the forms or products SHE she's nine, right? And do you have to do for a twenty year old that could do that? She's a nine old. And I argue that that the presentation from that nine old is a thousand times Better than anybody than any resume that's come across my death in the past five years. Nine year old in that same time frame.

In this project we had a kid that went to his parents range and he he would spend hours in the afternoon collecting antlers and horns from all the different world of the exocet pls that they have on the property and is building furniture with them. So he made like a lab, and he he cut them and put screws on them so you could use them as a hardware for, like dresses, right? I was thinking .

that you were going to say that nine year old to try to construct a chat that might be a high risk thing to say, sure how yeah really .

like rete usable things. And of course is dad helped him and he took this and sold those things, launched to a an e commerce market. And we're selling them online on facebook marketplace.

Who was selling them on here? Three or four different online ways for him to sell IT and made a few thousand dollars. And then we had the other kid that went, took sticks, and he thought that that stick look like a gun.

And then he tried to sell that stick as a gun, and he saw no sticks. And he went back, and he he saw his two classmates that made thousands of dollars that put effort into their, and then he SAT there embarrassed, and his parents were mad. And it's perfect because that kid just learned the best lesson he could possibly learn, which is failure.

What IT looks like to have effort and discipline and intentionality, and somebody that actually practices the process of what we are teaching them about how to launch a product. And in his embarrassment, then motivated him to going do Better on the natural lease. And but he learned that lesson at nine.

I learned that lesson at thirty five. So cycle tic and project driven learning cycle tic 啊。 This is not new security. This idea that this learner driven environment, you take a bunch of Young people and you allow them to lead the education process. So they're making millions of decisions in a day.

What share they're onna sit on, what pencil or pen they're gone to use, what kind of paper they're going to be used if they going to be used in ipad to be taking their notes. Ultimately, I like they have to perform. Like here's the things that you have to do.

If you want to go outside play, please show me your work. You didn't do your work. You actually have to sit back down and do your work.

They're past right. Well, you're over there on the corner bouncing on that little boston ball, not doing your work. But john y is over there.

And he SAT down. He put on his handphone start to listen and work his music, and he knocked out his work. And he's already outside plan.

So in a day they're making all of these, you know hundreds of not millions of little decisions on their own. They are not being told where said they are not being told how to do the work. They're they're given the tools, they're guidance.

We don't have teachers in the studios. We have guides in the studios. And just like total and socrates and played all, all of them were dies.

They are literally like mentors to these Young learners, trying to learn how to quickly think. And three years ago, we opened school number one. Last year, we opened our online mentorship program. When we recognize that this is working, we just need to give the keys, the castle, to as many people as possible. Then from the my partner might be done, just a dining on my hard worker, like everything that you'd want.

An educator realizing from the online mentorship program that the benefits of the brick mortar environment that is conducive to to learning, how do we give not just intellectually everything that they need, but then also physically like k, here's a space for you and your family. And families are keyword here. Because we really do believe that the nuclear family is the strength behind a Young person learning.

Like if you think that you can take your kid and just drop him off and you're gona be given back the product that you want without you put in some form of effort. And um if you have if you don't have skin in the game, if you send your children to seizure, you will be given back. romance.

I don't want a romance, right? I I want to be intimately involved in what my children become, and nobody cares about them more than me. So as the online mentorship program exploded, this year will open fifty new APP gies in the united states.

And then I promise next year we're gona open two hundred more and then the next year will open five hundred more. And I will defund and abolish the department education of the next five years. Like it's going to happen.

What's the problem with what they're .

doing that i'm doing anything? What what is last time you've seen american school, the kids are not learning how to read. They are fAiling math, are assab scores.

I hate that. I have get on assab. It's the military entrance exam. It's like your S A, T, when you graduate to see how you stand against all the other kid at your great level on an equal plane field to get acceptance in the college, accept that those acceptance levels are difference per gender and her skin color. That's idiotic, but that's the way that is not marry based.

That's a completely different conversation I love to have, but it's not the one that we're talking about right now. The test for kids going to the military, we were talking about how fat they were and how mentally unwell, unhealthy they are. And also like their substitutes in some criminal history, they're also dumb. The ASAP scores have been dropping every year for the past twenty five years. So the kids are getting dummer.

You have A A latter test, you have a yard stick and measured against the same thing that changes. But the difficulties this and presumably the azahari being um fucked with less than entrance exams for universities because those are more of this is just a stand .

rise testing that's given the exact same test has been given to you know millions of kids at this point across this nation for the and .

you will always got this parameter that you can measure this generation buses twenty years ago.

Yeah so like it's not good, not good. This is this is a problem. And then you know when you look even here in Austin and of texas, florida, they really are.

And I really hope that texas does push through the school voucher program. Arkansas already did IT florida going to be doing that. The school voucher program is so you if you own land here, you pay property taxes.

That property taxes pays for the school that is in your zip code um if your kids don't go to that school IT doesn't matter. You still have to pay for that school that you don't use. But what if you have kids and then you pay for those kids not to go to that school?

You pay extra and then you pay the same amount as everybody else that IP code for that school to exist that your kids don't use. You're you're paying twice for education even though you own use in half of IT. The school te school voucher program is there's money allocated per child and that money is a tax credit that's given back to the parent so they can use the money how they both want to for their child.

Maybe it's to send them to public school. Maybe it's to send them to a specific kind of school because that kid d needs a specific kind of education. Um some of them like whether there is going to be more a story or it's going to be secretive or it's going to like whatever the form is going to be IT can be tailor to that child and the money is is gonna follow the child.

Uh, it's it's been brought up in texas multiple times and almost past multiple times. So the APP gy program, ap gi strong online, APP gi strong out dot com. Our school here APP g sea park. So we're in north Austin school and we have but anybody can apply like literally you we're taking that applications right now for twenty twenty four school year. And um every corner of the buildings magic like there's giggs, there's laughter, there's joy, there's Harry potter, there's comic books, you know there's there's drawings on the walls, there's um engineering schematics, there's new design .

takes how well at what age you taken .

up to college.

right and how well are the I don't know what they've done this yet because of have a short amount time you ve been around.

We have form everybody in every metric .

input in college application ah.

Are our kids don't on everybody that literally make everyone else look silly. So when you're at the university and you're in um reviewing all of the applications and you have, kay, this S S A T score. Um this kid is coming from this school, you know he was here SHE graduated um with this GPA.

They were involved in these extra rick lar activities. cool. And you're comparing that against all other kids, that same format and then you get a packet. And this kid has been working, started his own business.

He um is a printed in this very specialized program um he has letters of recommendation from these fortune five hundred companies that he has been working for in advising the consulting. He also has higher scores and everybody over here and he has the same GPA as everybody over here. But for some reason, his esa is so this similar to everybody else over here because it's real and life experience.

So it's the the standardise testing that I think people have scepticism around whether if those should not exist. Standard.

how does that help you?

IT is the equipment of the azara that you need a barometer up against. You can measure everybody else in a way which is standard sed. I else is like, okay, well, this person wrote S A.

And this person did a piece of art. How many pieces of art is this S A worth? It's the reason we have currency. We have currency to make use of .

exchanging comparison. But if the home, entire pots of the entire organization is to prepare this population for the test compared to this group of people, that is, preparing the entire population to be constructive tributary members of society, but they still perform the same on the test, which group of these, these two comparable groups, which one would you like to to select from arb?

Well, yeah, obviously, obviously right. If you can achieve the same, you still need the test at to it's .

is the easiest thing. And they perform at the same on the standardized testing. And i'm even arguing that they so surpassed all other Beatrice s or other ways that you can measure their performance.

They end up being not even comparable. It's like apples and oranges. It's like these useless kids and these like extraordinary anonymous and these unhorse that like you can't hire and accept fast enough that currently we're experiencing. So and there's data because we're not the first school to do this. This has been acting here in Austin .

and started actually just defer.

There is lots of heritage data, legacy data to support this. So it's not like i'm creating anything new. I did not create anything doing a different areas like I took a lot of the best of a bunch of different forms of education.

And then I made sure that family was the center and the nucleus of everything. So like we go up to the parents, if you think that you're gonna be part of the APP gy family and you're not a hard working fit, intentional father like your joke in yourself. We have thousands of people apply to open schools, and we literally just like open the instagram or facebook and we see a thought that body is soft due that sit there on a blood light next, you know.

imagine your kid not getting into school because .

of you as IT should be.

But interesting, it's interesting to think that when you go to when your child goes to school, you go to school again as well.

at least care, at least they want to be. Yesterday, I laced up my skates, crapped my hockey gear and hopped on the ice with my four year old. In my eight year old, do you? How long have been on ice? First long as they have been on the ice.

right? suck. I suck.

I'm terrible. But man, I I can. Would that not true? I'm literally Better than every single dad there. Every single one of them, because they're not on the ice, was playing tag with my four year old on the ice yesterday.

And of course, i'm like I watched a bunch of youtube things and their specific rules as trying to do was playing tag with my, like how i'm skating forward to turn left and the escape backwards and then turn right and escape backwards like those were all specific drills that I have looked up. So I went on the ice with intentionally, not just to play with my daughter, which I wanted to do, but also develop as a person and as a scatter. So I can, in some way to perform, at least show my, my kids that I want to be involved with them. And I wear in half across here, you know, I own the cross here because .

you fall over a lot because .

my kids have played across, right, like I never play across, haven't played hockey, but i'm gonna do IT because they're interested in IT. You know, like if my daughter please don't start, but wants to learn how to play the other, i'm a learn how i'd play the hello.

What are the principles for raising kids that you've discovered that you think most parents don't .

realize time? They don't care about their stuff. They don't care about how clean their how your houses.

They don't care how the. Rest of the world views them. They care about how you view them.

They care about the time you give them. They care about what meal you cook for them. They care about what games you are sitting there cheering for.

You know, the first takes about twenty thirty minutes to get dressed um to play hockey so my wife will leave first with whichever ver kid is gonna playing get them ready, get on the ice and I show up with the other kid twenty thirty minutes later the first time that the kid that's plain scores a goal the very first thing that they do is look up into the stands to see if dad is there you know my my big girls the first time that they went on stage for whatever their performance were and they looked out in the audience and I wasn't there because as overseas, do you kind of damage I did those girls, you know, the the A B test here of like me being here, every single one of them. And me been absent for single one of them. I think that their mom's are amazing in there, like those girls are just incredible in their resilience as a standing .

but swimming up scream without that.

That's right.

Yeah, I remember I did. I was a swimming a school and i've got like this memory seed into my mind when I won the back broke at the end of this big competition, I looked up and that with the crazy, so fulfilling.

yeah, there was an idea .

I came up with after I SAT down next to took a max at dinner about nine months ago or something. So he's a good guy. He's cut from the same cloth as you so I mean take you through this now so it's um called the fuckyou family OK lucky money as a mean but it's also a truth.

There is an amount of wealth that you can achieve where typical restrictions and conventions no longer apply to you. You don't need to suck up to the gatekeepers. You don't need to do things that you don't want to do in the extreme situations.

You don't even really need to follow the law. Similarly, sucky freedom is kind of downstream from fucker money, but also can be achieved through cultivating a lack resilience on other groups. There are no restrictions on where you can travel to and when and for how long.

You don't need to show up to work on time or work at all. If you are sufficiently well structure, you don't even need to care about the state of the economy or the power grid or the wider world. But i've recently learned about another type of fucker liberation, one which is significantly cheaper, more accessible, more common and maybe even more powerful.

The fuckyou family many fathers had spoken to have told me about how their priorities were completely changed upon starting a family. All the previous status games they played, seeing petty, the admiration in game's ship they used to play in an attempt to impress people, empower, or those with status seem juvenile, shallow, much if they are anxiety around whether people like them. I thought they were cool, evaporated, the only people they needed to care about impressing when I was sleep in their house to their kids.

They were the coolest, richest, strongest, most heroic person on the planet. And that gave them a very type, powerful type of liberation. IT seems to me that much of what Young men get up to our surgit activities until they finally find a family. This isn't to say that all fathers become plastic soy boy hippies, or that having kids new to your ambition, but IT definitely seems to open up a new round where they care far less about the flower m and jetson that used to occupy their lives.

Brow, that's IT man. That's IT. But that's also the definition of sovereignty though.

You know, like I keep hammer in this a of solvent like I there's nothing external that can touch anything internal and internal is me in my family. The nuclear there's there's no government body. There's no medical organization there.

There's nothing that can affect my family. And do I love the a minute profit? But like this fuckyou idea, IT is is so to the point, and it's so on the nose and it's so correct and there's nothing else that more important.

I totally agree. Once you recognize this, the guy driving the fancy car that is south, it's like, you know, he seems so pathetic and the guy is, O, K, I just got this new race at work, know, I just got this promotion. I like, I pity you.

Like, I, I, I feel sorry for you. The guy is like trying to build a brand and like, like, so good online to social media. Is you a couple hundred thousand followers right now? I say. I want you to experience that because that is indescribable that I can't like. That is a drug that can never um you can have enough of that you'll never be seated from the thing you get from giving back to family.

What would you say if this father's listening who don't think they have that they haven't been fulfilled? How can they reconnect with the with their kids and that sort of sense of purpose for their family?

Little the little bit like it's not there's not a handle that you pull in all the sudden. You know like how many practices do you go to a week? How many games do go to a month? How many um the afternoons while they're doing homework, have you SAT there the kitchen table with patients and Grace and try to help them.

And I like, what do you mean? You don't know what five plus five years or five times five years. You like every one of those opportunities as an opportunity, either hit or miss.

And when you take a step and look like there's thousands of them in a month and just start hitting more of them, one percent more and then two percent more, and fortunately, like if you've been a bad dad, all you can do is go up like all you can do is get Better and yeah, I I try really hard to be a good dad and I go to my wife like last night um we're having like pillow talk time is like, how can I do this Better? You know how? How can I be Better and here she's like more time. You know, everybody wants you to do something for them, you know but we want that to and how you allocate that time I realized that you can't be you without doing these other things. You know, if the bahamas kick off with this terrorist group that's taking advantage of a hamas.

yeah like anywhere that .

there's money in tourism, there is criminal organizations that are looking for opportunities to advantage of them. And you Venus whale could pop off central america, even peru with ecuador and um venezia a and brehon .

and next k yeah fine. fantastic. Thank you. You know and you said the terrorist weather report came back negative for honor this week. I would like to tell you that your predictions were in.

you ruled. So there's program called steps, which is the state, something. What does IT stand for? IT is the department of states tracking of you as a tourist traveling abroad. So you get notifications from department state, you tell me about this before.

it's literally like a weather report, how serous it's important thing to do.

but that's before you leave. But then once overseas, they know that you're there, so they ask for like your travel dates, like what day they do a lot arrive. So then a person like me, when I go to department state, I say, OK, how many americans are currently in israel that aren't that are tourists that need to get? Because if you go to october seventh and we didn't know if this is going to go high and right like is his blog .

going to become um you said that you predicted IT being more connected than IT was which is still very connected but you thought he was gonna .

way was what I um israel may I know people get so matter. Israel is in a really good job keeping this, not going full regional warfare. He's bola wants an excuse to come in. The thi wants an excuse to come in. You know, like every single one of the pro hamas, iran taliban alki da, every single one of those organizations has been looking for an opportunity and enough popular support for them to come in.

Israel is doing the best that they can to target specific terrorist sets in gaza that conducted the most honest sets of rapes and murder and tortures and current, i'm a surprise sense, the holocaust is the worst thing that we've seen happen to the jews since hitter was gassing them. And so israel doing IT the best that they can with the really difficult situation that they are in. But I thought that the north border was going to kick off.

I thought that the west bank was going to kick off. I thought that egypt was a little bit space on the self border. I thought Jordan N, A little, a more.

So I the reason that we were there, of course, was to get americans out. But like, had IT gone a different direction, which is this slow, grinding war, hamas wanted this to go connect. That's what they wanted. That's why they did IT the way that they went.

The reason they went out, raped everybody they could, and torture everybody that they could is because they wanted a overwhelming and overbearing response by israeli, with an overbear overwhelming response by the israeli would have given given them a tony propaganda to them, go to all of the other nations and like, look what israel doing, these disgusted murders, they've killed tens of thousands of us. Poor palestinians strapped in here are the ones that did this um but that's what they wanted. And now that IT didn't happen, now that they're kind of like grab.

what are your thoughts have to spending time with vivek? You got to catch up with them recently.

Do you have to that guy? why? Because everybody has their beliefs. I have my beliefs, and I I think I know why I believe what I believe he can articulate, why I, I got up a bunch of time with him and he can explain.

Not just the reason that he has those beliefs, but then he can also articulate what he thinks the solution is to the problem. That is a very different thing than what's currently happened in politics, right? Is up the truck up and like they're bound all this retorts, but who is walking up and back? This is what I believe. This is why I believe that this is the solution to the problem. And i'm articulate the steps for us to be able, accomplished, blown away by a, by the depth of his understanding in a world that he's never worked in, which is the american government.

Crazy yeah, here, verbally is incredibly fluent, like a very, very key communicate. I like some of the stuff i've seen on twitter, worry, disease debate, perhaps videos. Have you seen this? And him topless, doing like forehand smashes on the tennis court or doing birdies in his house because IT debate prep and it's you know account of signal against the fact that he is taking care of himself physically, which I don't think he can save a much of the rest of .

the presidential cause. Our Kennedy Kennedy looks .

good Kenneth's check we had dinner with him .

yeah and yeah is a big boy yeah the there there are some rumors that trump was looking into Kennedy as a running mate and as like what would that look like? Um i'm just so frustrated with american politics right now.

It's about to get more intense the next what about nine months? Yeah why why you so frustrated were.

After paul harbor, the leading general of the japanese military, is quoted insane, we have made the worst mistake possible. We have awaken. We have awoken sleeping giant, which is the american people, and we give them unity um an amErica united is like an instrumental force nothing in history has ever experienced or seen what we can do or together you know from war one to war war two um and then you see what happens when we are broken and divided and fractured and win the vietnam N G what in our current economy and mental health and obesity and the broken family um and both sides like the republicans and the democrats are just fighting for portions of a pie and not even portions of a pie.

They're fighting on these outlying groups of these radical ideas and playing into these french's beliefs, but not even paying attention to like the core ideas in our america. And I would really like a united america, and I think we're way more united. You know there's a five percent on either end that are pretty radical um I know you should not be cutting body parts off of prove you best and children because they think that there are a thing that they're not they're born the wrong thing, you know and similarly, like you should not go kidnap a governor because he doesn't align with your political beliefs.

You like from the far right, the far left, these are fairly obsol groups. The other ninety percent are like, man, I want to live my life. I want other people to live their life. You know, like, con a mario dude, that's fine. You know, like, don't tell me what to do with my kids and don't tell me what to call you, because, like, that's my choice and that's my beliefs. So as long as your belief don't extend in to my beliefs or good, as long as your freedoms and you can have any freedoms that you want to extend my freedoms because I should be able to have any frames that we want, I think most americans are like that. But right now, or just been segregated, divided by ideas and these um identity politics is just so petty and so pathetic and so divisive.

If it's not, the thing I keep on asking is like how how much of this is coming internally and how much of this is being motivated by out of country act is yeah the very least that stood on the sidelines .

cheering oh no, no. Not like they are paying millions of about accounts that fuel the algorithms. Social media companies are also seriously to blame for this attack.

Companies, google, facebook, matter, instagram is while that we can do what twitters kind of do, okay? But besides them, youtube, all of them. The way that algorithm is work is they want conflict.

They want people to stay and to comment and to like to share and to get enraged and get pissed. And like now you're stupid, you know and then um they say that these community guidelines, but the truth is they want people to stay on there and use that medium longer. So of course, our enemies are sending their pumping funds and pumping resources and pumping fake accounts into those conversations to sway the idea one way or another. While the tech companies are wanting that to be chaos and anarchy because they benefit from IT, because they get more money on the marketing dollars. And all the while, the only people that are being hurt by are the people.

So that sucks. And internally, in terms of the politics, is just small land grabs and backbiting. I found I had a dean phillips on.

He was the guy that founded he he discovered bevy of oka and then built IT and sold IT with his family and then did talented gilot as well and built IT and sold IT too. Massive exits. And he's now running for the democratic nomination up against biden. And I spoke to him and he was telling me that current current congress people spend more time raising funds like twenty five hours a week just raising funds because it's an expensive game to be able to play, that they spend more time doing that than they spend doing anything else.

You are our political systems broken um and the funds that they're raising in our from packs and super packs they're coming from lobbies like or donate .

if you do this thing. Scratch scratch. Yes.

that all has to go away. Um elected officials be able to be in the stark market. nope.

Um elected officials with multiple more than two terms in office nope um you know the the polis that have never had a real job in the entire ult life and they came in and make a hundred and twenty thousand dollars year but they worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There's a problem. You know, the problem is our american political system, like all of that, has to go away. The the and if IT doesn't happen, where are beautiful public, I think, is that jeopardy?

Yeah, it's scary. It's crazy as well because obviously moved over here and I have loved my time in america. It's so good and the culture is fantastic. The people that I found a fantastic. I love us.

And as the city and IT seems like that is swiming upstream against structurally, what's happened in education? I don't know anyone who looks at the american education system even the most audient like supporter of the current thing, and goes, yeah, we're really doing this, right? No one thinks that it's it's happening while at the moment.

And then the same thing goes, when you look at politics, no one, no matter which side of defense, because apart from may be the people that are investing in continuing to keep that going the same way looks like because yeah, this seems like you a really good way to position a super powerful free nation. Yeah exactly. But actually so IT really does seem like putting all .

of the difficulties in .

the way of something that supposed to be really great and just curtAiling IT and nursing IT and neutral IT and shaving off the edges over and over, over over again. But this only so long that that can keep up yeah.

i'm more of like what I want to do with the tax code, which is take the home tire thing, doubt and disease and then burn IT and then from the ashes we can build something new um that's what I want to do with kind of the education system and political organization in american optics.

One step at a time.

you I mean one fireball at a time. I I I think like the gradual steps of change are gonna right now. Um of course, there's big things. If you added term limits, if you added age limits, if you removed lobbies, if you remove super packs, if you remove corporations being able to contribute, if you removed the. Court behind the scene deals.

Is that something you ve seen in your future? Would you want to make a don't make a step in the politics that's not senator fuck in. Tim Kennedy.

no, no, there there's like a period of my life that I don't think could be understood by most americans. There's um leaving active duty and when I fighting professionally, also working as a contractor for uh government contract in those are hard things to explain that .

will come public you and yeah OK that's tim. I appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming through.

Appreciate you. Thanks for being flexible for your times. Were busy dudes always workout? yeah.

boxing? yes. swimming? yeah. And some electric motor ycl.

All of that sounds great. Why should people go? They want to keep up today with the stuff you do.

The constitution reference that first. And then tim Kennedy, anything with a verified thing? Anything else besides that? Just help me. All right. Appreciate you. Thank you, my sister.