#762 - Mark Normand - Secret Hollywood Rituals, Shane Gillis & Toxic Masculinity
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Hello everybody, welcome back to the show. My guess today is mark Normand is a podcast actor and a comedian. Is hollywood a secret cavall of child eating sausages? IT might be mark has spent enough time and it's orbit to know and if nothing else, you can riff on some good theories for two hours with me.

Expect to learn what mark thinks of the downfall of new york city and bail reform, why the resurgence of shame gillis on snl might not be the death rattle for work culture, how mark remains positive in the middle, negativity if he is worried about being deep platform, his thoughts about what is considered offensive in hollywood, the one word that you can never say to an american and much more. Mark is essentially impossible to podcast with. The guy is so quick and moves at such a pace.

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a good to be back. What is this big? Three.

third.

third time and two from the airport? I come straight .

here flying.

It's women history month. Oh, no.

don't say that. We just exited black three month.

That's true. Well.

IT was a tough man just .

like I feel like there's more black on black, uh, talk and trashed before so why you got the cat Williams, which was like the black estein list, you know and then like what's your face did IT monee did IT after here? I don't know, they just felt like P, D is and see the p di stuff. No, oh my god, you got to get on black twitter. It's well blitz what p dd been .

involved did .

oh black to to be malcomb all right. Um p di is, uh, getting called gay and apparently hooked up with a bunch Young boys and stuff.

He's getting cold, getting a party hooked up. So it's like the okay two point O C O Kelly .

equal yeah no year on sands year and but um yeah probably had like a bieber moment in an usher thing and a mek meal and all this. Watching that cat Williams .

club appearance made me realized that black people live in an entirely different universe like linguistically. IT is not a surprise to to anyone, but just seeing that kind of a conversation. You know, when someone comes in the a very strong accent and you une yes, the radio and head like where I think and then hit yes.

yes IT took a little .

while for me to because and it's not just that IT was references are different and the cades this speak is different and the the way that they use poisons is different in the colloquial terms. These everything is so different.

Yeah, well, I feel like they black. We'll come up with all these these terms lingo, and then we take IT like a year later. Why do you get that a year later and then we ve fuck IT up and i'm black where we need some new shit like .

White people also say in blink o and somebody chasing down .

the cool of black people is yeah but we ever our boy has its a uh contribution like will invent basketball and then black we will be much Better yeah yeah or like we'll invent a car and you'll put a reor .

what's OK so you think that like much all of White culture are making a Better.

wow, Better, different their own whatever you want to call but I think we help each other there's a lot of like, hey, why do you steals everything like you know that some back and forth.

I understand what month would you have if you could design one? Ryan along said that he wanted to have a premature parade, which was for guys that .

not too quickly. That's why that be february is as short as month. That's true.

Oh, jez, I don't know what would I do. I would take a premature, maybe a flash, flash month. No, i'll go something off of deck. Or you sleeping in month?

Sleeping in months. Yes, don't be nice to outline what I didn't realize this. Basically, every friday, every single week is like a i'm where the hell am I going on a plane today? Day for all comedians that you guys jump on planes and you know, I end up texting someone on a friday.

It's just about to i'm i'm getting on a plane to phoenix. I'm getting on a plane to utah. I'm getting a plane to wherever like always that that's IT that's what your friday is .

consist of good morning, totally like i'm here on a thursday and this feels foreign IT feels weird did not be on a friday flying out but yeah, by the way, if I take IT a month, let's go a offended month. Nobody can get in trouble month so you going to say horrific shit in this month and I get trouble that would be fun like a perch.

Oh god. Yeah, that is .

a good.

not allow to get made. You.

although the n word, they would get out a hand the first day would be ugly.

That, yeah, maybe not. Speaking of utah, I went to utah for the first time, and you told me, you told me about mm, soaking.

Yes, we go on right in the soaking. I was just in salt lake. They still do that. I brought IT up in.

The crowd was wild. Can you explain, for the uninitiated, a little.

what is soaking in they can have, or they can't thrust. So they are allowed to put IT in and just hold IT there like a gun in a hoster. And then they have all these loopholes, much like the positive juice they, all these loopholes were.

A kid can jump on the bed next to them. And so to cause a humping movement without actually humping, cause the kid was job on the bed. It's their dumb religion .

that is the madest thing. But I didn't realize that is the first time have been to youtube, first time been to toxic, first time have been salt. And I didn't realize that coffee isn't a loud.

yes, but energy .

drinks are allowed.

Yes, looper.

tatus are not allowed, but breast augmentation surgery is allowed. Oh yes.

I can get cosmetic surgery.

but you can't get a tattoo. You can drink like neutronic monster, whatever. You can drink coffee, uh, and there's just, I don't know, I feel like the litigiousness should have been more water tight.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think these rules were made before they thought of rebel. Yes, like that coffee is out, but you go there in the people who repress.

They are great comedy Price because I think they're like, oh, he said that horrible thing that felt so good. I can fuck my daughter, whatever you. Also, the whole thing is wanky.

But when you think about that, I saw a silman had a great bit about how we make a scientology, but it's just because it's new. If someone brought out Christian ended today, be like, wait SHE got pregnant without fucking ing that the baby jesus who wisemen ah don't need fish on friday, whatever IT is. You know, like it's just new. And I think the same with mormonism. It's just it's IT seems silly, but it's just because we're not in IT.

Yeah, that's interesting. I heard a rumor, don't know if this is true, that the third largest cash reserves in the world I held by the moment church, someone made them open up the accounts, maybe there was some investigation and obviously there a non profit whatever, but just endless numbers of crazy rich people ww, moments and contributing to the moment surgeon, apparently the men, which basically built all .

of salt light as well yeah. So have you been to the campus that bring up the Young? No, that's their university.

That's the morning university, beautiful campus. Or nate. Like, crazy architecture, really nice.

These religions have so much money. Scientology is crazy real state like clear water Flora. L A crazy money.

The really nice. My, uh assistant is moment and his phenomenal he when and did his missionary thing, IT came back immediately, married mediately, moved in with his, with his wife. I spent Christmas eve with him and the wife and the parents in laud. The more.

yeah, yeah, yeah, great people.

fantastic. Just some weird. yeah.

The sub rules. What about the pogonias? I don't know.

They can have no tile wide.

Yeah well, I was big love that was as a couple ality shows about IT. I don't know that's real though I might might be outdated.

I think that y're trying that there's a current push at the moment to make polygamy the be ratified in the same way as gay marriage was so that you can have like a thropp's marriage. That's that's not something legally that's recognized at the moment. True, if you get married to people, yeah three people get married yeah ah that's not you don't have the same sort of legal protections. And I know maybe this is part way between king shaming and and like you, you don't know the way that we have structure our new world's relationship.

Well, that's the problem. Now if someone is new and you push back on IT like you're a big at your clothes minded but that's a slippery slope because now get in the map minor attracted person, you know like if you shoot that down now maybe you look like an as you like no, no, i've just trying to help kids.

Yeah you see what i'm saying well, I think anything that's new anyone that has any desire and that desire being told is wrong like quickly gets accused yeah shaming or this it's some sort of judgment on them as a person yes, it's definitely not the way that I .

should be right. Well, progress is good. But people always, they always go too far.

They're, let's see, also get, you know, we got this. We got that. We got this.

Now, how about that? And you go, well, that's crazy. It's like smoking. Alright, hear me out there.

Legs hold on first IT was like, hey, you can't smoke in the restaurant this half. You you like, hey, you got ta smoke at the bar. Then like here, you got to smoke outside.

Then you guys smoke ten feet away from the entrance and that just keeps going going out. It's like cigarets or illegal. So you got a kind of hold the line at some point. It's good at progress, but I feel like people get a little power hungry.

yeah. Did you see a google german? I, yes.

Ilaria.

yeah. That's the new like battleground for woke. And so I don't know how much that is indicative of google underlying .

wall desires .

to transfer tire world and stuff like that. He told me might be I read the press release where they .

were apologizing oh really .

yeah the guy put out like, um we we made some errors basically that was and is oh yeah, no shit. The biggest news story in the world, from the biggest company in the world, that ninety percent of the entire planet surge volume. And now everyone is skeptical about whether or not your companies got good underlying principles yeah, yeah.

And IT just IT didn't seem very satisfactory to me. But what what can you say? I suppose in that situation what do you say? Yes.

to fix the problem, I know. But did you hear that it's they're maid on mosque. Oh, so the guy invented IT. They got to fight with on mask and was like, i'm going to do this to get back at him that's a rumor call in, if you know i'm talking about but that that's out there is bill ackman and there is another guy and the other guy hate z lon. And so he was like, let's go, let's go all .

in super. I mean, that's the worst ever designed the optics of that thing. I didn't really .

get IT right, but it's a microcosm for what's going on in the whole country. Wo just like, hey, it's gonna go not let's go no White, let's get a lot of diversity and not diversity. great.

Didn't get lad White build on horribly things. But when you're going and accurate, that's when we gotta cut IT. It's not going to say before we went too far.

Like, you know, diversity is gobal when you make A. But not these asian on a you like, what do we do IT here? Now it's not even accurate. It's one thing to be nice and progressing. No active.

The money to be off the left by having black noses and the right by having black founding father. right?

exactly.

yeah. Was impressive.

yeah. What if you type in racist? Will IT be go to back to black? What I saw that.

or clan member, they're been able to, uh, they've been able to make non racist image is actually very racist by saying a show me an image of sixteen century philosophers drinking grape juice .

and eating watermelon and great .

philosophers drinking grade views and eating water mill.

Wow, that's a nice move .

there. York, york, and that's good.

I mean, the news about new york is like a there's a migrant eating out your wife at every moment, and you're gonna killed by a hobo. And look, the guys are still just off. The migrant thing is crazy.

I want to mexico city for new year's. Give, give me back. You know, like I do you? Like I got a hockey here. But the mike thing is kind of crazy just because they're getting credit cards and all the stuff. So it's like where .

are they being deposited?

There are in a lot of hotels in new york. In new york, yes. So some hotel owners like I fuck had I get screw I .

who's telling the hotel owner that they have to do this?

I think mayor ads.

right? So this is manhattan .

or yeah yeah yeah I mean, I think they spread out, but it's mostly that i've seen of coming on buses.

It's pretty ild. okay. So is IT just because there's lot of room in new york that what like because I wouldn't think mexico borda new york isn't exactly a short trip. It's as far as you can get totally.

So there there on those buses to be here. I feel for the people, yes, but no.

that's IT was part of the journey is not the do trying to get you across the state line right illegally? It's the fuck in four day bus journey get .

to new york exactly and um it's gotto be roughly these folks but I think it's also wasn't texas like, hey, how do you like IT wasn't anything we're sending you the buses of my didn't .

they put them in? They put them in some really nice retreat, some place that rich people go on. Holiday is ventured, month is ventured and said we're depositing them all here and then there was big kickoffs. Yeah, yeah.

哎呀， does this big fight at the moment about whether not in a state problem or is a federal problem? And IT seems in the law to be pretty much unequipped ly a federal problem, like the state doesn't get to choose who comes in and out of the state from other countries like the country first. But then yeah I don't know it's it's bizarre that this is happening to new york, which is supposed to be this the flagship I know of amErica yeah it's super tourist hot spot.

I went to the bahamas six months ago, and I was talking to the do that was driving me interesting bahamas, because I was settled by the brits and then developed by the brits. They drive on our side of the roads. They drive on the left hand side of the road.

Yeah, but because they only thirty minutes off the coast of miami, they drive american cars, drive you driving a one drive car on the left side side of the road, which is a nightmare. Yeah, but it's all british roads, kings. Pretty speed limit in which I like.

Anyway, I was just going to guy the driver and I saying, um what's the crime like around you you know, the areas I shouldn't go to other problems and he said there is sort of been a violence in gang activity on the island, but every tourist should be pretty reliably safe. That's interesting why, he said, because if gangs do stuff to locals, other gangs, the police sort, treat them as you'd expect. But if they do IT to tourists, they come down on them like a turn of bricks. Because if there is negative tourism information they put out to the world that hurts everybody, that's good and pleasant dependent. But you would think that the same would be trieve in new york.

Yeah, well.

we all dependent on tourism.

But I think the country has got this thing going on. Now it's like you, we are to got you. These people are new, so we're going to be nicer to them.

That kind of feels like the general consensus in the world. You know like this is already you already live here. These people, are you going to be nice to them?

I don't know. That just feels like it's in the air now where he used me the opposite. You be like where americans, we come first.

I am not saying one is right, wrong, but I do think that is flipped in a society lately. But I think we should send a bus load of drag queen to texas. Just see now as like a little revenge what you guys hate the most. I'll send trends drag queen to texas. Just get you back.

Wow, repeal taxes will be interesting. Everything a pink fluffy woy heart like they're on a bad right party .

in that right. Well, the problem is, is the bail reform not to be that guy you know about this? Oh, this is bad. So this is the thing where all these people commit crimes and they get out immediately. So like another crime.

And like, why is this person out on the street you like what they got built out? That's a new law who's baying them bail reform, that is, if they're not committing a crime with a gun, can keep in prison. Yeah, you even heard this.

No, this is what's fucking up. The city is more than the migrants or anything else. Yeah, give a jo here to go.

Ll IT up. Pull that up. Okay, but bail reformers is really bad. So like you, if I hit you with a hammer, i'll go to jail and get out that day because it's not a gun.

But if you hit me with a gun, yeah, yeah, my, what did you hear about the four? Mayer to beat up the cup? no.

Oh, man, alright. Well, yeah, that was a big, big new story in new york and they want to jail and got out that day. And then I got on a personal on the news like, we're back out, baby.

you guys oh, my god. So it's .

the moral .

is low in a day today living in next week. I presumably like every time that I go to new york, I just do the full tourist thing. I always end up on time square even if I don't mean to be there like I just I don't really know where i'm going and you meet people like meat in the middle of time square, like at the only fucked in land month.

Yeah, what obvious? Ly, that's not you. You know you're going to be going to work. You're going to be going to shows. You're going to be going to know the roots to take yeah so is a felt sense of someone living in new york. How often you interacting with the a downfall of the city?

Not too often, because I know my road. I know I got my head on a swell. I been mugged couple times already in my first year there, so i've got IT down pretty good. It's kind of when you ve got the map open and you got the .

checkered pledge shirt on and the polo and .

exactly kicky shorts and that old thing. So that's kind of when you get fucked. But I I still love you like I I travel every weekend and you go to salt like city and it's pretty.

But i'm like this does a go on on there's no energy walk around. There's no one on the sidewalk. I need that part. So I like new york. For that reason, I truly never leave.

I arrived during santa, which is like, ww, an absolute fever dream.

Yeah, that's wild. And a little friends of the juice. why? Wow, they don't celebrate Christmas. So are really in their .

face with a hand. We could do be nice.

you and a gone talking about .

the the cat illiana thing. I was listening to him speak to rogan and he was saying that hollywood is not really there to entertain you. propaganda. And hollywood is built into the ingredients list. You're kind of like, can you can you .

translate that hollywood is not really .

that to to take you propaganda. Hollywood is built into the ingredients list basically that what does that mean that I think a lot of what he thinks is happening in hollywood is accurate narratives in order to be able to deliver particular message to the public out there.

Now, I didn't realize that the entire well established law about black guys having to go through this ceremony of wearing a dress, oh yeah, yeah, on a movie like this is part of IT. In order to be able to get a big role. This is complete like well established can almost it's like taken as a given, right that the black guys need to do that.

Apparently aren't. There's a bag. There is a bag of cash waiting for you. You just need to put on the dress phone.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, look, I can't speak to exam, not a every america, but I feel like this black guys who've never wore a dress who made IT are there not?

Well, I hope so, but feel like I was talking to write about this. And he seemed to he seemed to like just it's taken as a given that in that but yeah, you're kind of so calling some of the more mainstream but see, you do like ninety shows and fear and and stuff.

What's the experience? Because obviously like struggling independent stuff, comedy stuff and then mainstream stuff too yeah, what's the tanner like inside mainstream TV at the moment? Like what's IT .

like when you like? It's weird. It's definitely it's like you said, there's that really like a message that we have to uphold and that we are.

Think about the message, whatever you want to call IT. The narrative is i'm okay with the narrative. I get IT.

We've always had narratives like in the fifties, the husband wife had two beds and they're fuck and married and they have kids, but they have two several beds. But we all know they are banging, but it's the fifties, you know. So now the message, the narrative is different.

But my thing is you can even bring up the narrative. People act like there's nothing no like now what are you talking about? I'm like, well, wait minute. So we're doing the ship, but I can we can even bring IT up either that's where I get factor is not if we get acknowledge IT they were good.

What would you say to people to say, uh, you're seeing racism whether isn't anny like this isn't racism. This is just representation or something .

um I would say i'm all for representation but like you know some of these comedy festivals though they have to check some boxes so we'll bring on a black guy who's not that good but he's black and you're like, well, there's a tons of funny black guys but you just went with the guy who is black instead of a funny guy who happens to be black and that's to me that's the ultimate racism and let's like a softer racism.

Why would they h is there a subsection of black comedians, of black actors and contributors to stuff that happens on T, V, who push a narrative that is more publicly acceptable? Is that why those guys get chosen?

Um that's a good question. Maybe you like times ago as a funny thing or they're like, I we're looking for like some people of color is like, I like, I like. Yeah we more like, so you're full of shit so stuff like that where I just i'm fine with with all the bullshit, just got to acknowledge IT so I don't .

feel crazy what Francis Fosters benevent a from trigonometry consenting kids in the russian yeah yeah. So you know, you ve got two guys that as fucking in .

immigrants is gonna get but they don't look IT no.

yeah, it's not strange that it's not .

what's all optics at the end of the day, you know you want to be able to go to look at these guys I book and you want to have a fucking some bro and a guy um you know with the would like a punch on just because it's easy a crazy image. But we want you know we want we want a guy and like a dye ki and who's like really black, you know, selling purses, that's what you want but if you go, hey, this guys black, like what he looks you like what is an I know, but he's black, that doesn't .

count what your thoughts post chains S L appearance of you thought about what this means for comedy what is IT the landmark moments that sort of some people hope IT is?

I think IT is a big deal. I don't want to be one of, hey, this knife in the chest of council, both out. I don't think it's that profound, but I do think to me it's funny as este is like you're out, we're fired and then five years later they're like dh, he's still said the thing that they hated so like which one is IT so IT kind of just shows that was a lot of this shoot as bullshit like um you see that brain dolor you know that is he was a CNN he was a CNN panellist or whatever he called ponant and he was like, always like, god, these republicans and now he's gotten fired and now he's gone republican so it's just kind of funny that like things flip and flop and we can go a hundred hundred miles an hour in one way something changes and we just you turn and go the other way and you're like, what what about all that stuff that you so it's all silly. We're all going to die one day.

Well, I don't know. I mean, people who change their opinions with the wind? Yes, IT IT, doesn't you think that that pretty unreliable? You know, if essl and this wasn't I wasn't really paying much attention five years ago when the shame original thing kicked off. But eja said, what was on the front cover of american life for something, oh, shane, oh.

I think was like new right?

Which is a big deal. Yeah, that's a big thing.

That was cosby, harvey and shame. And what do? Yes, crazy. And then you think.

okay. So in five years time, I mean, I don't know, I would have been an interesting for us. And alto made people understand why they change their opinion because IT sounds an awful lot like, well, change more popular now, right?

It's not. And he's still, I mean, during his opening monologue, he manage to say the word gay, retard and cracker. So and we are.

well, okay, nobody died very fine with the words we're gonna alright. You know what I love about IT all these outlets like he bomb, he bomb first, all IT wasn't a bomb. He was all Lucy goco.

He looked little nervous, but he got big laughs that that he did well. But I know a couple gomes s who have bombed on there, but they didn't write that about them, and they were like, definite bombs. So why I want you right? This shows that is an agenda, always is always something more behind IT, which is weird in journalism .

because he used to not be like that you supposed to just report on, I guess everyone not like I did see done a search and so many of the headlines just appear to be the same thing, almost like I know that whole kind of coordinated.

What's the same with late night? Every late night is like, we hate this. We like all the same jokes just that's why i'm john to work at the daily show and he did like, the bite is old and trump is annoying or what I was like, well, you hit two, you hit but that was like voluble ary, yes.

And then he got attack for that, do you? Yes, you know, people got mad. I got some backlift.

He shouldn't .

be talking about that.

There was the White house physician did assessment. Bindon's health and he said he was like, you know, this has been is one of the most overdone topics. Like is he capable to do the job? He's gone to be the oldest president ever that comes into office.

If he gets reelected, the same going to be true of trump as well, even though trump doesn't seem at least mentally to be the same. White house doctor claims biden fit for duty after physical president geo by is allegedly fit for duty. Following is the early physical exam cording to White house doctor Kevin conner says that there were no new concerns identified during the course phy exam.

From the last time biden was examined in twenty twenty three, he claimed by den remained fit for duty and fully execute of his responsibility ties without any exemptions or accommodations. He also called biden healthy, active and robust. While the results from biden's ysp ally examine positive. No cognitive exam was performed.

That's classic. Well, you see the thing with trump where he said, he said up on a panel and he was like, how about that Mercedes? And always like, he got his wife's name wrong.

Oh my god, he's slipping. He's slipping. Is all these articles about him slipping? And then they came out. The mercies was the name of the woman running the panel. So but they don't go back and they don't go, oh, shit, we fuck that up.

And you're like, well, I haven't seen you guys do that to biden when he slips and he eats ice cream and talks about palin. yes. So like I like I don't care, but that's what i'm saying. Like there's always a an agenda, a message that IT you can't go against and i'm fine with the message when you you just got to acknowledge that kills me like the A I thing is great proof because you're like, all right.

something is going on unequal, obvious going of what's going on .

international exactly that's all right idea. It's happening back to work.

Yeah it's a it's kind of interesting when the mask slips. And I think people have just got such a problem with the accusation goering, so much attention and then the attraction being so pissed.

poor yeah, always we like we like a headline. That's why they have a chain bombs because it's like we ve got to got a grab. 嗯。

i wonder yeah thinking about saying getting back onto us now and going alright, is this a is this a landmark moment that shows that we've gone past the peak, woke stuff and everything's kind of coming back around? I didn't I don't know how big of a deal essene is. Yeah, the U.

S. I don't know how much stuff down stream permit, but certain ly, that guy who went to apple and then went back john to w IT. Yeah, the guy, yeah, I always get him in john .

Oliver makes up ah both were on the daily .

show but one's british. Yes, he's sort of starting to push things a little bit. Bill mills kind of always been relatively kind of one foot in each camp, kind of cold stuff, I don't know. Like ultimately, rather than looking at narratives and what sort of um desire, what kind of big story of messages being pushed is way easier to just look at incentives yeah what people instantly vize to talk about because they are incentivised to talk about this one thing because IT makes them look empathetic and caring. And like there are an altruistic truth teller, people will just do that yeah. By far the easiest thing is to make IT either cancers or uncool or obviously manipulating to do that thing, to do the force diversity, to do that I think almost, who do you know in Normal life that cares about that stuff?

No, yeah, that's true. That that gives me hope is when you see just, you know, like I member, I went to a thing with my wife's family and I they like you want to be I draw me a bud light yeah trans what I and he was like, what an i'm like, ah you're a healthy person yeah you got your kids.

You look out the suburbs, your golf, you know that that guys live in life and i'm out here like, uh, honor by which the canal and writing all these jokes and I think all that should slippery makes you sad. Yes, so he's living in IT, right? And I think we're kind of dial in to the world, in the culture and all that should I think IT might be eating away this yeah.

I think you're probably write what's your strategy for remaining positive because you've got to keep on top of this day in order to the jokes and you also don't want to completely at the mercy and have your brain sucked out of areas I .

think you gotten. Just be aware, if you gotta to go watching a lot of gaza stripped ed stuff, I had to pull back.

Is that your relaxation music on the evening to some people? Play a video of fork, video of a fireplace. You just got a.

ah, yeah, i've just got the iron done getting bombed. That's my screen saver. But yeah, so i'm um if you got to be aware, if you gotta be conscious ous of IT and you ve got to keep IT silly to keep IT funny, you know, those comics up and just this is happening in the country, and do you like what?

This isn't fun. You ve got to put a dick joke in there somewhere. So somehow keep IT silly and be aware that this is all news.

It's all gonna away. The guy lit himself on fire the other day. That will go away in three days, which is said um but that's just how just how that works. And none of this affects you directly. You go to the gym, you eat your protein, you get laid, you move on .

that it's this is a two way selective unedic or sort of shorter memory. The the press, or essene, or whoever, seemed to very quickly be prepared to forget the thing that they stated as absolute, one hundred percent deniable fact. But then the audience also forget that, yeah, that they were previously women, about how many people I would love to see someone do a study of the proportion of people with ukraine flags in their bio.

And like how does the graph big go stock of ukraine discussions really, really hit yeah october seven big dent in that. right? And then we will continue to go on, continue to go. And it's this flimsiness, yes, of people's convictions about things that they care about. Like, look, if you're gna force me to read a hundred tweet thread, or you posting about this particular thing over and over over again, all news stories being dominated by this thing, then have the courage, convictions to stick about and keep talking about.

That is not popular. Course is like fashion. You're like, oh, shit. And instead of fashion, like you made ukraine your whole personality and now it's kind of fade IT out.

And so I got to just pretend no or hope no one noticed, and go to the next thing, stop asian hate. Are they okay? Then they get stopped getting hated. What happened? But that was a hard to act for eight minutes, and we all got on board.

And then I moved on. I think i've heard someone called IT the opinion pages.

H, I like that. yeah. Well.

it's all about what opinion you holding and what's fashionable at this one time, you have a team mistaking your opinion pageant. What's your bomber .

jacket you are wearing? I have a mitey USA vintage coach coat that I found at a drift store.

Was that owned by Donald j. trum?

Did he do that?

What was he didn't?

He didn't miss america. He did. Didn't miss america. yeah. No, this is, I just founded a drift store and I was like, unbiased IT, says mt. USA. So I love the idea of some guy with a whistle and I got was just like, but ringer, we're going to be going to win up this year, Kelly, you know.

So i'd had to buy IT like in a boot camp for fast america.

Yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, a good, I know girls in high school like, i'm done to do playboy. How about new in playboy? And playboy became this evil thing.

So it's funny much. That shifted. Member the playboy mentioned was every guy's dream. Like if I make IT to the playboy man, and i'll be said, i've made IT yeah and now that's gone.

And now girls do .

only fans instead.

good IT is strange. Like, I think something that in with one perspective can be seen as exploitive is seen as empowering when done just at a slightly different kind of angle.

I love the empowering that's a real catchall for horses and you know, it's like stripping now. It's a powering you like, I guess I got to go with that. Uh, i'm a hooker. It's impowering.

I mean, that might be one of the patriarch's greatest tricks. Perhaps the patriarchy is as powerful as we think IT is if it's managed to convince women that getting naked and selling the news on the internet, the Price of a cheese burger is actually something approximating epower ment I got.

Was that us?

I thought that I was them. I, well, that's my point. That's the real sip. The real sip is that we convince them that .

that's something that they should enforce between N E dinner, like sir A, I found a interesting .

study looking at a who pays for dates. So for jeni and agelaus tion, who pays for dates, Young people tend to lean more liberal on a range of issues, pretending to relationship norms. But when he comes to dating, the idea that men should still pay prevails.

In hetero xul courts, researchers found that what that Young men paid for all or most of the dates, around ninety percent of the time, while women paid only two percent, and they split the check round about eight percent on subsequent date sprinting. The check was more common, though men still paid a majority of the time, while women rarely did. In the eighty percent of men expected that they would pay on the first day, while just have a half of women expected men to pay surprisingly views on gender omes, that didn't to make much of a difference. On average, both man and women in the sample expected demand to pay, whether they had no traditional views of generals or more progressive ones. The finding strongly showed that the traditional pattern is still that the persistent tradition of men paying for women may seem like a harmless artifact, but in a relationship, some acts don't exist in a vacuum.

Wow, how about that? It's like that old bill bird joke and I like women want equality, except for a couple of things over here. Like if somebody breaks in, you've got to stop.

You gotta pay for dinner um the ship things I get off first, you know so that his joke. But it's an interesting point. You know, we all want to quality till you got to lose something.

The W N, B A is like, hey, we should make as much as men. But male models make lesson women. But I don't hear any women like, hey, they should make as much as women.

I sent you that video the other, the day the highlights from the W, N, B. A. One of my friends, one of my friends replied to me, as I do look at the stands in the stands are just empty and you think, well, I don't know. Again, with that, it's not saying that the W B A doesn't need support. Maybe female basketball players IT would be great if more of them were incentivised to do.

But for all of the people saying you on supporting the W M B A, why aren't you attending? Of course, why aren't you in the stand here? And this is why I ve had decided for ages about how hypocrite y is kind of perfect, purpose built issue for the internet.

Because needs like, remember, those games maybe even exist still on like ipad. Well, IT would be a spot the difference thing that would be in a touch screen in some pub somewhere and you'd be like looking looking between these two different images and be like, oo k so that's that. The reason epoca sy works is because what someone said or tweed previously is available for you to see.

And then the new thing that they said or tweet is available for you to see, and you're able to compare and contrast tune. So, well, interesting, you once said this thing, but look attempting here. And this is why. Well, luck. You just said that the W N, B, A is way more support, but you have about your season to the like w lakes or what I so what I put your money where your mouth is, how is that that you can talk about this, not cat, like I saw you consider like a boss game, but I can see you the women's balls game.

Yeah I mean, it's it's obvious it's dead on, but that's how people are.

I think they don't like having the hypocrite sy pointed out quite early as well like IT really shows up the last gracious parts of you. But yeah, I think that's what people are are looking out for. They are looking out for hanging in a second. Is this person fuck in telling the truth?

That's like comedy. That's where comedy comes in. We come in to that little, that little opening and and really blow IT up yeah like when when kelan genre turned in the kayan genre, a lot of women were trying to be nice and they were like, she's beautiful.

Look out pretty SHE is and then I will go, you look like her and I go, fuck you and I would like, go and that fun that you can just you you're full shit I can prove IT it's like when guys say, I don't see color you like, yeah, you do all we talk when is is reading more black with this movie? This is a racist and like, so you saw the color, what if I like, i'm black? You go, no, you're not. I go, uh, yeah again, i'm okay with all of IT. You just got to a stop lying to me yes, that's what that's when you start go and nuts .

yeah how again, looking at that sort of shame thing, how effective do you think deep platforming is generally all the kind of cancellation think because we had a he's the fucking big guy that I place at the mothers shape a good bit and he got in some trouble about doing a George fly joke.

Oh yeah, yeah. Lucas.

yeah, yeah. David lucas, yeah what's your do you live in permanent ambient fear of the wrong clip going on upon the internet?

A little IT usual way. Career, just because a people really like they made a career off of getting you so was like they were more incentivize to get yeah but now I think I think one after George flye, I guess that is pretty, pretty dicey.

You no matter who you are .

flying close to the sun yeah so i'm not actually surprised that have I I don't support getting him in trouble but like um i'm not surprised and also he put the video up so you know you like yeah if that happened, if I made a joke about that, I would not be posting that so there is there are some uh degrees to this but um yeah no he is a comic and he can say whatever wants and people can backlash and he can rebuts then that's so I go so but I do think deep platforming is pretty shitty because it's all we talk with compassion.

But what about the guy or the gal? Like what's the lady from the Mandala, an the U. F, C fighter lady who .

got in trouble?

You know, like he went through hell. And then there's like a lot like suicide talk when that happens. Like they really go through hell. But people go, well, she's working again.

She's fine and I hate that she's fine because you're the want to always talk about compassion so like, let's say you called A A guy the n word and then he went back to work the next day and I was like this fine. What what about the end word thing like that? No hurt as feelings. So IT just feels a little .

hp critical to me. Yeah does definitely something about a person overcoming a difficult situation and you thinking well because they overcame IT, that means it's like you don't know how much difficulty people went through because so is a good example of um i'm trying and purpose vely trying harder to be more disagreeable in my really personal life and on the show as well yeah I just I found myself to be a bit of a people please or I don't of sitting with discomfort, especially on the show, just makes me feel .

like they do where? Why do we have that? What's wrong with this? Well.

please, I been fucked in therapy. So i've not like a million bro. Psychology reasons for why that's the case. But at least for me, if I say something that I know is possibly going to push this guess or even to someone that i'm side opposite into an area of of discomfort IT makes me it's like toklas ly difficult same.

So I understand if you look at um Douglas murray or bench peo or even rogue, however and you go very able to do IT and you go yeah but IT comes more easily. While actually I don't know in in all that I don't know this is the point that i'm making. But if you people please a number one on me, people please number two does that.

It's like, it's like the skinny guy that manages to get muscular. You go, wow, look at what you had to overcome in order to be able to give this luke warm push back against the person. Yeah, something tells me.

But then superos cringe o meter when he makes somebody else in a debate or a discussion feel uncomfortable is not as hyper attune as much or yours might be. 是。 And that's the same as this.

Well, think about they look okay. So you don't know how much work this person has had to go through in order to be able to feel okay. They might have had to do fucked in a thousand sessions of meditation and and gone to peroo and done a ton of I aso or maybe they cried themselves to sleep for two months. You don't know, just because someone comes out the other side looking okay doesn't mean that they didn't go through .

some bull ship and and look, it's fine if you want to be mean and be a bully, but don't act compassion. And also that's what bugs me about IT too. So I I completely agree, like you're putting someone through hell.

I know a couple of guys who went through IT and jesus. They're like different people. Now you know how the president goes in and comes out looking older. They'd like that.

You know that night tears and therapy and all the shit and I think it's like a biological thing where when you're outside the group, you know this ah this we're all social creatures. When you're outside the group and an outcast IT fucked with you and almost feel like you're dying or something, it's like this panic attack. I feeling very fast. yes. So I think that's a 曹 二郎。

直播 的 都是 conversation。 I heard with Robert sulky is this evolutionary biologist guy, and he was teaching me about epi genetics. So I thought epigenetics was total dog. sure.

I thought he was like the god of the gaps for behavioral genetics basically um life circumstances can change your genome, not just change the way that you feel or your memories that can actually impact you on a genetic level that can be passed down. Now you get parallel sly, close to like ancestral trauma and stuff here. But there was a study done on pregnant women who entered poverty during pregNancy.

It's interesting. Poverty is a very reliable stressing. It's a very reliable way to make you ah it's really ruthless because being in poverty takes up so much of your mentals are getting out of poverty becomes more difficult.

It's a really vicious catch. Try to um trap. And they were able to show genetic h changes in the kids.

And he is the wild thing when when your grandmother was pregnant with your mother, the egg that was going to make you was inside of your grandmother. Because one of a female baby is born. They are born with all of the eggs that they will have for the entirety of their life. So at one point there was grandmother, mother and egg that would make you all inside of the same person.

jesus, Grace, anyone else hard. This is a lot going on here, man, by the human body. IT is lucky. IT is.

But my point being the um you know the stress that people go through and you're totally right. I mean, those photos of boracic obama.

yeah you know .

because he went in and it's you look at someone like your biden or trump and you like he's kind of it's not exactly look in his best was all going entering yeah where is barking? Is this sort of spiking? Yeah handsome. He going in and then he comes out and he's very long face and the grey has some guys just cross that threshold in any case? I mean, you've got a little the grey coming in.

So yeah on the old beer but yeah I think um just giving people a bit more great and I find this in myself as well, playing the making a judgement about someone making you a very quick call but that's that's because of a bad person. That's because they are just you know anything you ve small thing and arguing to for people to give more the way both of us today being saying I am we trying and just, you know see the best in people yeah as best we can maybe we even need to do that with the ones that are trying to push the narrative you know, shall stop me about how he thinks internally. It's not coordination, it's cowardice. People scared, losing their jobs yeah people don't believe and you think, well, cow, this is pretty bad and it's caused a lot of evil shit to happen here but still like, yeah just slowing down, slowing IT all down being a little bit more. Forgiving to be but we we do look .

to like the outlandish brush people kind of like muhamad you in the sixties like i'm the greatest to kill anybody and you're you're sitting there in your little house says a kid going like, wow, you're not supposed to be that arrogant and he's doing IT and he's a he's a killer out there in the ring so I think comedy has that were like h we should tim john just said that you're not supposed to say those things oh my god. And it's fun.

Rich player was the king of that or George garland so wow prior prior was so uh revolutionary because like your head, cosby had flip wills and he had mms mably but he was out there like i'm going to say the real shit i'm not onna walk the line i'm going to make for a White i'm going to say the n word a bunch and he smoking and his dirty and and carlin was like, what's up with this? What's up with that? He made one of the the man, the establishment and that's what what was fun about IT.

And they got pushed back. But now we have the internet, so you get pushed back right to your door. Or before you just got, like, you know, a letter from the catholic church or something.

I was found a study that recently was done deplore forming non violation influences on social media reduces overall online attention toward them from politicians to podcast host, online platforms have systematically banned the platform influential users for breaking platform guidelines. Previous inquiries into the effectiveness of this intervention were inconclusive because, one they consider only a few d platform events to, they consider only over vert engagement traces like likes and posts, but not passive engagement like views. Three, they do not consider all the potential places users are impacted by dep deep platform event migrate to that.

Did this huge study, a quasi experimental study of one hundred and sixty five deep platforming events targeted to one hundred and one influences, they looked at, read IT and then manly correct the data, and did all of this stuff through a difference in difference approach. We found that deep platforming reduces online attention. After twelve months, we estimate the online attention toward the platform influences is reduced by sixty three percent IT works and on google, by forty three percent on wikipedia.

wow. So this is a really effective thing.

Sixty three percent on google and forty three percent. Further, as we study over a hundred platforming events, we can analyze in which cases the platform is more or less impact for revealing nuances. Ces, about the intervention. Notably, we find that both permanent and temporary d platforming reduce online attention toward influences overall, this what contributes the ongoing efforts to map the effectively of content moderation interventions driving platform governance away from speculation. So we got some hard and fast data, sixty three percent on google and forty three percent on wikipedia, from a deep platform .

that suck for those influencers who are part of this test. They are like, great. Now, in fact.

because you had to run a test, me, I think that IT was they looked at existing deep platforming events. So your alex Jones is your money, you know your tate so whatever would have been looked at, i've never understood the whole IT strives. But you know IT makes .

people yeah sometimes .

though but it's very in shame is i'm trying .

to think you he was already huge before, but chapel already huge before so yeah that that you can have .

to have a base and you have this little way as well. And it's all about optics. I think that cony is in an interesting position because he genuinely doesn't care, doesn't seem to care.

And then he's got time. I missed. I was watching the super boy even texted during IT, but I missed the canyon. I would .

advise you.

do you see that? Yeah, I only sorry after the event.

Yeah, just him on the phone. Hey, spent several billion book, thank you. So made in so are .

as he was evident by his hand held super dally shot super boy. I vote and then chapel and and shame i've got this like it's, you know, they gift to people joy in a way and I know I feel like you you guys I said as ages ago that I feel like everyone should do stand up once so that they always have the ability to say, eh just the committee just got that as they get out of jail free card .

what my thing is, look, you can hate the comic. You can hate the message the guy has to say or the girl is saying, but like, why does he have to go away? Like why the deep forming? Why can you just go? That's not for me.

You know, when you're on campus and they're doing like a you know trends drum circle for a climate change, you go, i'm i'm not going to i'm going to get jump, but you're not going to go, we gotta shut this down. And that's the part that books me, is like why that shutting down that's so it's so trump and I least people hate trump of very dictators. And like different, the police people tend to make a lot of rules also. So like you're just policing everything is is very mired.

I saw there's a house just round the corner of the moral live that's got death on the police sign in the front garden. And every single morning I see this A A private security sticking in the front window every single time that I walk past like.

is this a joke? We need a word for that like that the climate change advice is on the private jet to give his lectures about climate change. You know, the the republican senator who's like, god hates facts, which blow in a guy in the rest stop, know there's this over compensation of, like, you gotto do this. I'm not doing that you .

so the the closest thing is the luxury beliefs ah so friend rob herman repopulated this is not his original invention but he says luxury beliefs are beliefs held by the upper classes that but still status on them but in costs on people .

that's good yeah as so different.

The police is a perfect example of this. Another one that kind of obvious is um two parent households have no advantage of getting married, has no advantage for raising a child. So you look at the number of college graduates and people in the Operational on society, almost all of them married in the organs, relationships with a classic nuclear family set up.

And the lower classes may believe this particular narrative that's push by them. Other ones suffer in the same way as you behind your gated community tweet. Yeah, we really need to. You know these police are racist and we we would they shouldn't be there in the rest is like, but you're not a black guy from inner city city.

Yes, exactly. I know that looks good on paper like it's on california. They do anything where there lowering test standards for black kids because they are having trouble in school. And i'm like, I guess that's nice because moral pass, but you're fucked at them in the future. Like isn't that way worse?

There's a huge problem in illinois at the moment in the schooling system. Some huge percent tage of kids can't read a grade level and then they finish, uh, high school and they get out and it's just that there's nothing that they finish like k three twelve. The maximum is way behind why they should be reading comparison is way behind why they should be.

You think, what are you learning? I know doing. I know it's scare IT.

And you found the role in fire. No, this is right, piano baby. This is business, Chris. All day long, I don't want to get too much, gino. But he is a harvard guy, harvard professor, very like the Youngest black professor at harvard to get ten year or whatever you call IT I don't know brilliant guy from the hood, black guy I made IT to harvard did IT wrote bunching books steam everybody loves them. He started doing studies on police and black um you know crime and all that.

And he came out with a study that there's actually way less black death from police than we think and they're not actually going after black feels much as we think they are is his study. He couldn't believe the numbers because you know because what we've been hearing for years and years, so did he did IT for a year with eight in turns working under room. He couldn't believe the number.

So he said, let's do another year and do IT again with eight different people just to make sure we got IT and IT came out the same way and everybody harvest like, don't put this out. It'll ruin you which goes back to what I was saying about how i'm okay with the bullshit and the they don't even what IT knowledges you know so he's like i'm putting the south. This is data.

It's facts. Like IT doesn't like, don't put IT out. They tried to get in fire.

They tried to rule in and they tried to be too. They tried these things. He beat everything and he put that out. And now he has an armed guard with him all day long as he's getting death rates. So he's going to kid at the grocery store with a fuck and security guard.

And the irony of like, hey, i'm just saying it's not as bad out there for black feels, we think and saying that to now needing protection from a cup, I mean, the whole things wa key and i'm not saying he's right. Wrong folks don't come up to me. I've just saying this is happening in amErica right now and it's fascinating .

that while i've got a friend, Carol hovan, who wrote a book about that one and SHE, when he did rogan show, SHE cried, I think, four times. Oh, when he did my show, SHE cried at least three times. We went for breakfast.

And Austin, I think he cried twice at breakfast. SHE is just a very emotional and like joy stuff to and like you sh'll talk sh'll start talking about her son and immediately start selling her son anyway. SHE a talks about biological differences between men and women.

Spicy SHE was a harvard SHE had, I think IT was one of the most popular courses of undergraduates are in psychology. I think he's like some insane that might have been five hundred people that attended this particular, of course, that he did really interesting course. And after SHE did the rogan thing and then the book came out, and then SHE maybe posted a couple of things as well.

None of her teaching assistant were prepared to work with her. So these are postgrads usually doing A P, H, D or something, and y'll be part of sum lab. But you need your T, S. You need to teaching assistance.

It's as because it's sorry, sorry, T, A, A, unless than you need.

you need that to a help you because if a huge class shopping work and they kind of assist during the lecturing of good of few friends in awesome here that work as t as for their professors ahead of their ABS and ship. And that's like soft cancel that he was being pushed out. Yeah how can you do your cause if no one to work with you, of course, and then wasn't back up from the d and she's out.

She's been pushed and pretty sure he had ten year, which is supposed to be the protection. yeah. And then SHE was part of this bill ackman thing, you know, where he called out clothing gay a but the weird thing, then I spoke her about this.

He was basically used as a very fortunate political football. Yeah, he kicked around. See how perfect this is shows that the wall mobile, trying to push people out that say things that aren't agreeable.

And no one, this is something I haven't really thought of before. No one considered what he wanted as a part of this. So she's already .

lost a job good point but .

just because she's a very same shame like shame strikes me as a large rudy robust guy yeah and you using him as an example of somebody who went through difficulty with us of come out other side of I don't I don't feel that he's taking that. As you know, you ve retried red, my P T S D from this awful incident that a five years, but the woman that cried five times on a podcast maybe does. Yeah, right. This is no.

again, care about people's .

feelings or not. Yes, IT just comes back to trying .

to give people a bit more Grace. Yes, ago. It's a, we shouldn't be a boiled down of this one, one tweeter, or one thing we said or one joke we made or or one thing this lady did, you know? But that's that's what we do.

And I think we have negativity, bias. So we go, this is the thing. Fuck you.

Like, what about all the good? I like you for a shame, actually has a great sketch on a the long is horrible food so he is a great get series of fireman saved to one real's lives in looks like I found some tweet from a last year and says this this and and you know it's gay and whatever and yeah yeah why you pull that up if you do what you do to me and it's a nice it's kind of a nice microcode what's going on like this? Gotcha yet.

But the guy just saved a building full of people. So i'm sorry, not get enough. yeah. But I feel like we think too much. I .

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Well, I think this is nothing new. You know, like like my jagger, David boy, they all went to this, like what he call that when you your kind of feminine and masculine guys and organs like I think this is, know, in the sixties guys drew their hair long and every dad was like, you ve look at the home o like you get a haircut and I think um that was crazy then you know, having long hair or tight pants or whatever.

So I think is just this is another swing of this, and masculinity is the norms. So we got to go against the norm, and then eventually, baby girl, whatever will be the norm. And then being mass, be weird. I IT all just flip.

Everyone acted by whatever looks novel.

Yes, say, that's a Better way to can say.

way to say i've been mean, my husband have been thinking a lot about things that a bitch, that you don't realize a bitch so trying to pick up a moving pink pbl, that's a great one. Very bitch starting in a stopped bicycle.

Yeah, that not. I got one. You know, when you close the door and doesn't close the car door and doesn't doesn't latch all the way, you got to give that booty bump.

I hate the beauty bug, but you gotto do IT. These are great. This could be like a tiktok, uh.

running series. A wearing as a man wearing a towel rapped around your upper chest rather than rap yes, your waste. Oh.

I got another one. Standing like this is very masculine. But if you just rotate IT like that, it's so much gear. What is that? Well, it's just the same hands, same hip but if you flip IT IT looks so much more minus .

do that thing you wash your hands finger from behind that's that's pretty bitch um turning he is that as one which is turning around ever. So if you walk past the entrance to somewhere, you're going around the block and coming back in because if you go and then turn around, yeah, that's pretty bitch. He had one at dinner at the evening, which we would stand outside in the receipt blew off the front of the table.

And we've been talking about things that a bitch, that you don't realize, a bitch for six months, this is gold. We've accumulated this huge big log list. If I could go for the rest of product, I was watching, and we hadn't come up with chasing a receipt blown in the wind.

And I was watching IT happen, and sure enough, the wind picked up and see what event over you that. And then IT goes away again. And I was, and he came back over. When this is adding .

this is being .

added to the list.

isn't IT that's getting added even even have like that takes all the mainly confidence audio when the doors too heavy.

uh, sleeping in a blanket with your arms all the way under as supposed to having your arms out. I just think that's pretty bitch holding a coffee mug with both hands.

Yes.

that's a great one. Massively bitch.

My a wife, he says, if I see a guy with flip lops, the vagina is just showing up like the those ones. The tongue is the idea of that thing between the toe that really frees. She's like a slides. I'll do a slide, but the tone is what gets you.

which is interesting because crops are obviously the most sexy, arousing type of fact that that available.

You know what my favorite by crops are that that flap, that little ankle holder yeah, if you put that up and it's called sport mode yeah, which to me is like.

what are we getting? No, that spot. This is the that that like sport.

You going to go run a mile with that.

going to play foobar something. There is a clock marathon. Come on record, really? Yes, there's a crock mile, and there's clock marathon record.

People look look this up on the I will yeah i'm sure it's a athlete yeah .

what I look I think that um oh do you know what the beer miles? We don't know. Okay, I think it's technically called the chunda mild but um you do I think four lapse of a four hundred meter track, which would be one point six K I think that's a mile.

Think one point six or maybe you start tiny back behind the line, something to absolutely IT and at the beginning of each mile or at the beginning of each lap, you drink a bottle of beer, I think, or maybe it's a pint. I think it's a pint of beer. So it's four pints and four labs of a running track, one mile.

And this is a very prestigious in the running world, super prestigious record, super place like the guide that wins, that is an entire channel st that committed to IT and they track all of the things and there's people that and they've got no tactics are how they're onna drink. And it's not just your ability to run, its your ability to not run and not throw up. And it's called a cha mile because as soon as everybody finish four points, two litters of beer just comes back out. I love IT and it's fun.

It's like highly held really television than pick .

do I think I do like pickle. I adore pickup. They do problem is it's the it's got the highest disparity between how funny is to watch .

yeah how fun IT .

is to play great point .

through through more boring sport to watch. It's like cissy, way more fun to do watch sister, I love but yeah you're right and I would say pick balls like covet because I swept the nation and old people love IT and fat people are scared .

of IT have you played padel tried that? No so that's yeah paddle. whatever. I don't know. I'm around some people that the european and they call IT, but I think that maybe pedal something different to paddle. I don't. Anyway, I tried to play over the weekend in miami and i've decided that pick ball is tennis for old people yeah and pedal is tennis for rich people because it's all everyone that there has got some got IT IT would nice row relax on and everyone is like, I don't know, I just IT was very fine. I am all for pick ball and I think the pedal can go for itself.

Okay, okay. yeah. Pick ball to me is so perfect, I don't want to .

try but there's a basketball call two .

blocks away my house and it's just been the basketball is over. It's all pick about bunch eppes out there with little .

nets go on and I would love to see street ball new york player, yes, coming up. Ice soy frappe.

right it's total generation action of sport the spot yeah yeah used to be like this greedy kind of yeah like real basis all court with like street guys .

that's a great if you did yeah it's the pick ball gentrification. It's got nothing to do with the number of starbucks, the eve god or whether or not ah that's when you know that something being fully gentrified. When is through and then I would just be through pick ball. All that you would do is find different courts to put pick ball .

and that would yeah I grew up in a black neighborhood, and I used to skate board black with skate board. I was like, I was like a gung e White guy thing in the nineties. Now it's all, it's all over the place, which great.

But we built a skatepark, and IT happened to be next to a basketball court, and we came back one day. I was burned down. And IT was kind like this racial thing, like, I don't don't take our baseball court. Yeah.

that was heavy. Nuwell leans is hard coal.

IT really is at the wild place.

I've seen videos of you, uh, trading.

trading, threading, oh, trading, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was pretty good. I'm an old quiet now.

I can't crackly and stiff, but I was pretty good than day. That's all I did all day, every day. Very similar to stand up. Lot of parallels.

Have you tried wake surfing?

No, that's fun. What's IT? So wake boarding .

is the one where you're quite far behind the boat and you kind of direct into this thing and that's when they do the crazy fat yeah and it's super fast as you usually maybe twenty five, thirty miles now, fun. But also, if you wipe out twenty or thirty miles an hour, you feel IT and you teach to this board thing, wake surfing is much slow. It's like eleven miles an hour and you're actually surfing up and down, carving up and down the wake that's made by the boat. So you've seen people, is that, you know, as far as for me, to the wall behind a boat and .

kind of with .

the road with up, then you let go. The P. K.

Does the boat makes a particular shape? Wake behind? Yes, yes. If you're goofy, then you can have IT on the that can the boats can usually switch side so I can make a smooth out. I um I did that.

I've been doing that prety obsessively for two years since I been here. Really yeah but I didn't have the background in skating. Yeah and my friend alexa connect, who is a philosophy, theology, hya, debates, bench peo and Jordan Peterson, and all of I know yeah, great is phenomenal, doesn't strike you as someone that would be a master of physicality.

But he had this background in skateboarding. And i've been trying so this ages to see year ago when he came out, he wore suit to a boat party and is like the true philosopher, yeah. And first time that he gets pulled along on the road stands up. No problem. So there is a skill, said, I think, inside of people that did skateboarding as a kid or some sort of baLance dance, probably other stuff ah put a ball in a paddle, a bat in my hand, I am laughing but baLance sports and think.

yeah I think there's two kinds of people, the people who want to go straight forward, like skin, and then the people want to go sideways, like, or snowboarding. And i'm a sideways guy all day long. I snowboard.

I don't like being straight up, but it's IT freezed me out. Is that weird? I don't know.

I saw a video of the first time that snowboarding was introduced to the slopes of amErica and all of these sort of old granola grizel ski guys that were running the the slopes or whatever I was saying that that like missiles and the super dangerous and uh they wouldn't let them on the the lift, the lifts wouldn't let them on, so they had to track up and then theyd find some unprotected part of the mountain, and they d snow board down.

But yet they saw IT as this. He was a travel state, yeah, of of snow sports. This is only in the eighties, I think.

say, let's, i'll go whatever someone new, it's attacked, yes, but everything the car was attacked, you know, like anything knew that comes out. People will go at IT and they say this is horrible, like the the self driving cars are common no, that's crazy. Run people over a bob, bob. But like they are, gobin is a pretty .

good amount of evidence. I think even now with the data set that they playing with them, the level of sophistication, which is obviously gonna Better as there's more training sets, it's way even now, way safer than a even driver like the the risk proof is lower. But there's something strange about if you're in an accident that happens because of a person. I wonder i'm trying to work out whether there's something more reassuring about putting your life in the hands of other people and yourself, or outsourcing IT to an algorithm. Yeah, if you were in a crash that crippled yourself, would IT be easier to do with good point because of some bargain, a computer code, or the fact that was a wide shape and .

IT caused IT to sway. Oh my god, that is scary. Now you're you're doing a CoOperation instead of you're getting mad yourself.

Yes, I wonder if I really don't know what the humans. I guess it's onna change person to person. But on average, I don't know how people feel about that. I don't know if they would feel more comfortable being injured by their own hand of surviving at the behest of an A I yeah.

oh, that's dark. I guess i'd rather myself but that's no good either. Yeah, that's a good to lose lose yeah but I was cat Williams that he said was interesting.

Like in the future, there's no police chase because the car will just be tuned in the internet, satellites or whatever. So if you're in a get away, the car will to stop. And the couple.

gaia the due, who lives across the street from me, his insurance for his tesla is organized by tesla. I didn't realize that you could go full stack manufacturer and, uh, insurance company, but the problem is that tesla has access to the metrics diagnostics s that come out of his car. And they know how close he drives the cars in front, they know how fast to accelerates and breaks. And his insurance premiums are higher because of his a more dangerous driving style.

There you go.

That's why i'd never heard this story. Yeah, that's not broken on the internet, I know. But yeah, if you get your car insurance through tesla, because they know the metrics in the diagnostics of how you drive and they've got the within around thing to see how close you are to other cars, they know how close you came to .

an accident every single time. I do I like information out there. I have a nineteen seventy three bmw with crank windows and a stickshift IT like if you don't buck a lot, IT doesn't go.

You know, it's just it's all analogue and I love that. I like cash. I not one of these liberator off the grid, but I do like a little bit of a glib alone. You know, you don't want to be dialed in like these people pay for everything with their phone, all that he is a paper trail. I really like IT IT makes me nervous, too connected.

Speaking about. The shit from the past, I found a job advert for honest shackleton. So on.

Shackleton was the british explorer who first went across the antarctic on fut unsupported OK. So he needed a crew, I think, is about that. Between 1 and so twenty five people went， there was a stole away, actually pretty interesting.

There's a great work, great book by Alfred landon called endurance, which was the name of the ship. And they live in one thousand fourteen. And they actually were due to leave the day after wildwood won was announced.

And they sent a message to the king asking whether or not easily wanted them to go. There were all a men of military age with military experience, and, you know, they were a fight in robust dudes. And they said, what could be donors to do this thing, even though we been planning in for ages, we're not going to go and he's stand back like crack on will be the germans on our own. But he put a job advert out, and it's one of the best job job adverts i've ever heard. IT says men wanted for hazardous journey, low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness, safer return, doubtful honor and recognition in event of success.

Wa, I love that. So cool. Yeah, I know. Who are the guys who read that and go.

this is really was, he was way over subscribe, really.

That kind gives me hope at what year we talk one thousand nine.

or that would have been probably nineteen twelve.

What you ve got to think back then, like ever see the movie one thousand nine hundred and seventeen? Yes, but the the war.

war one and the like five cuts .

in the entry, amazing movie. But they show these kids and like how what we do, we mill, I am, i'm homeless, i'm toothless, a chimney sweep, but you know, just all over twist line me, you know, loser kid. So they all signed up because nothing else going on.

You know I think that there's probable a lot of that back and too like adventure. And yeah, I work in a factory. Yeah so well.

I think we're missing that. Yeah, I think so what there's just so many other things that people can do, of course, convenience and comfort and distraction and entertainment and all the rest of IT. There was a tiktok that was put up, I saw by a girl that said something like, i'm, you're going to make me a little girl.

L, go to war. I'm SAT here eating series, my pyjama. As for the third time today, and I think, you know, wouldn't be sending that twenty one year old go after one no matter what.

But the sense.

the subtext is there are other things that I can do with my time to entertain me, whether men wanted for hazards journey. The low wage is bit a cold, the long hours of complete docker, safe return, doubtful honor and recognition in event of success. Someone to go.

Well, I mean, the alternative is to just stay here in lester, yes. Manchester or something? yes. So I think we .

need to teach people sometimes you should go towards the discomfort stead of just all everything is about like ubs, netflix and chill tender enough to approach the good. You can just tend to her. Everything is getting more, more, more more died into less effort and ease. And I think that will focus if IT hasn't .

already there's a web cycled. The correlations, it's one of the best things that I found. So this guy is tracking thousands and thousands of different metrics and looking for correlations between the two of them. I like that. So the total rainfall in san Francisco correlates with the number of printing press Operators in road island for some reason, the number of people who die by drowning in backyard pools, and the total volume of nichols cage movies released in a single year at the same.

wow.

That's wild. So just because his A U. S. Bottled water consumption per person and the solar power generated in the sudan. Like very, I mean, they affect each other. This is wow, very strongly because .

it's like a time travel show. You step on a roach. eight. yeah. So yeah. The number of movies Nicholas .

cage appeared in and votes for the libertine presidential candidate in georgia. Like and it's a that's a tight fucking correlation that wow.

that a is that study. The men who kissed their wives before going to work get less car accidents. No, that's a fact. Yeah, so this this is .

cool stuff. Yeah I love shit like there was a really great story and matt, I walk is but why we sleep talking about um the impact of law sleep on surgeons and doctors that work in hospitals. And I can't know what the shift called. It's like A A triple shift or or a special night shift to something in the awake for this in same amount of time and the percentage of surgeons and doctors who do these shifts and then get in car accidents and to redelivered back to the same hospital where they would have .

working to .

get looked after right at the same thing, happens around daylight. So when we lose an hour, uh, the number of heart attacks, I think centre of strokes or something being increased by twenty five percent. So the road accidents, the same thing is decreased on the other side, when you just give people an hour more sleep, right? And they tested this with uh, college or high school students in a particular town.

And they allowed the I think instead of getting into class at nine am or eight thirty am, IT was ten thirty A M. And the total road traffic accidents in the entire city went down by a statistics 的 significant amount。 Jees teenagers have a later go to bed and get up time. So sure, for parents of teenagers, you don't have some dis functional broken child. Is just that the way that their body clocks tend to Operate, the staying up late and getting up late uh but yeah the the impacted of that sort of stuff is, uh, I love every .

when uber came out, cities lost so much money because they won't wait down device, bringing a ton of income to the city now with legal fees and police and whatever. So yeah that that everything correctly it's all connected. Baby, the great agg, that's cool. Yeah I am as .

i've got my car now, I did IT good for you.

Thank you. Right side of .

the road yeah but i'll get um but i've still i've managed to habit you are using uber so much yeah but there's still time or i'm just gonna a IT to think that you can get from where you are to where you need to be for fifteen books. Know where the driver that arrives at your house when you want in there and then he'll drop you off exactly where you need to be and you're pretty safe. And if there's a problem, you can call the best thing and you know .

exactly how long there's no parking. It's like a hooker. You just believe you know there's no attached and that's the best part of a hook and uber is just it's over.

We're done here. Have you ever used the comfort thing on uber? Then you get to select your a preferred temperature and your amount of conversation.

no. So you know this uber x uber priority, uber comfort, XL black and all stuff. And one of them is comfort. And if you select comfort in certain cities, you can select the temperature and the a conversation. I love the food because.

I mean, let's beyond, we've all got on that uber, and it's like crazy loud music and the guys see this way back and you're like, this sucks. Guys are crazy. B O, B O should be on there to, by the way, do music and conversation.

The alterations should be part of that. But yeah no, that somebody, the zoo s are a little brazen. You know what that should they they get away with?

Have you ever got in one where someone's .

had either that friend .

or their partner with them? No, i've never seen that couple hanging with and not just the front seat that just like nattering away and you just sort of join this short family vacation from where you're going to .

where you end up. That's well, yeah, uber gets a little too comfortable sometimes but is that an amazing we live without oper you like the fact that that on hold on forty? yes.

So like getting a cab was an issue that i'm from the orland. So I wasn't like a yellow cab on the street like new york. We hate IT was like call the company set up a time pretty a god. They show up. You got a flight to make that's a saying that that we live like that now .

I uber eight times a day. Ah yeah, it's phenomenal. I understand that there was problems and push back from taxi driver people because yeah, he was taking over. But it's just so much Better.

so much Better. Taxes fucked up. They got too, too comfortable.

Yes, they thought that they had to all sort IT out. Yeah, I am. I really love, really, really love uber. I do do like.

I go to sleep, my friends house and my parents like I, can you come get me and they're like, you okay. Now IT just be like uber. Yeah that's so easy.

There's uh in a betha um part of pain. So the way that spanish taxes work, yellow cars at night, they have a little thing on the top. And if it's bacon is Green and if it's taken its red or off. And the number of times I when I spent, I went to A B .

thirty times .

because the .

now it's .

a beer.

is that the T.

H IT is for us?

Okay, okay. I said, yeah.

when trying to angle sized everything taken over the country, one mispronounced good point country at a time. The amount of time that I spent lucking down a road waiting for a car with a Green light to come on at some horrific after party is coming down from a concoction of mystery drug, right? And just thinking, I really, really want and then if I had new to him back they go bad, staring at the ceiling, hating myself.

It's being a red like, Green like I throw a fun not get that yeah yeah. This why i'm obsess with youtube because IT just pops up. Um there's a town and there's a town called the accused new york.

It's a real shit box that used to be like a booming but propolis would like you know manufacturing and that all went overseas so the town's kind of fuck but there's an irish neibban od the only one of the country has a stop light. Only one of the country that the Green light is on the top and the red light is on the bottom. why? Because the irish immigrants who moved there in nineteen, whatever, didn't like the british read being above the iris Green.

So they flipped IT like a couple of street puffs, just one and overnight and flipped IT. And is the only one in amErica like that. And it's still like, still like that. yes. So that just shows people are, people are serious about their ideologies.

I forgot to teach you about this thing I learned about poor sleep quality is linked to self defeating humor and profound. Oh my god, I was. This explains the entire comedy world. In the novel explanation into the intricate ways of physical state impact use of words, researchers have discovered a fascinating link between posty quality and increased use of specific types of housing language, namely human cosworth. The study published in current psychology explains that those experiencing pooley quality may be more inclined to use a housing forms of language as a physico logical mechanism to contract feelings of tideless, so they make themselves the target of a joke that's more common, more commonly reported among participants that experiences more sleep problems, noticeable relationship between sleep quality and the frequency of cos word usage.

Wow, that's pretty good. Say these correlations .

are great. This one actually isn't ious serious. But I think um especially being british, there's a problem. Americans have a problem with you peppering a sentence with sweet ds, yeah, Daniel sloss is a fantastic tic bit about this. He is good where he's pretending to play the drums and each different part of the drum is a sweet d and he says, Scottish people that just come sort of falls out of you very, very quickly, where with americans, if you are, apart from maybe the comedy world, much more of uptight around and profanity is still, yes, a big concern. I mean, I use the sea word online.

A different thing here on my is Normal in england. Yes, here is heavy duty.

Yeah, it's a real weapon of mass destruction. There's no other acceptable, unacceptable, more unacceptable, acceptable word like you after that you're on to the end.

Word a and it's it's fight. Word, yeah, it's game on. Where is you call your friends that in the U.

K yeah that so yeah, it's just learning recently ing the scope of my linguistic usage and realizing what words are in and what words are what I can't say.

what I can't say yeah yeah, we do. We do the the effort a lot. It's all a buffer. It's all like i've trying to think of something.

So what's the name of that fuck that drink you sell and it's it's not good and it's comic. Use IT too much. The problem now is the word like this is like american epidemic.

This is a real problem. You watch the genie and all these people, everything is like, you know, you watch a canadas ones are certain golf yellow, a college kid, yes, and they're going well. Like you said, like you were eating.

No, not like he was eating. He was eating. They feel we'd like and it's sock and frustrating. You sound dummer IT .

bleeds into everything. I had a really great conversation two years ago with a linguistic analysis lady and shoes explaining what's going on here. And they refer to his fellow wards.

Yeah, find this up. This is fantastic. So m and um are two different use cases. People will ARM and uh at different times uh is knowing what they need to say but searching for the word okay more commonly and um is trying to work out the direction that I actually want to talk in. The reason being if you were to just open your mouth and make a noise of talking, what you end up with is something like um like it's that it's just the noise of user macbook k and is got that spinning wheel it's the spinning coloured wheel of linguistics.

The much more go yes perfect um that is a holding pattern .

and like has come in to say IT is something approximating this yeah think i'm like to say that's what like is but it's also been used as a filter. It's taken up both of those, which is why the frequencies increase of great .

great point. Yeah because IT IT isn't useful. This taste like chicken. yes. So now we're going, okay.

It's similar to chicken, correct? But everything has become I was reading like a book. Now you are reading a book. You you are reading the korean like just saying the book, but it's is the filter but you're write it's a filter and it's a the other thing .

is he is a second, uh, swearing study that I thought was brilliant. Repeating the f word can improve threshold for pain. I've heard during an ice water chAllenge, recent study found that repeating the air ford during a ice water experiment increased subjects tolerance and threshold for pain.

However, recording made up swear words showed no such pain of reducing effects. Numerous studies have shown that the use of swears ds can strengthen pain tolerance. During a nice water experiment, U. K. Researchers Stevens and Robertson's set out to explore the mechanism behind this pain relieving effect in a unique way.

Team of specialists invented two new swift ds with properties similar to known curse words that then tested the invented words on a cold press experiment to see whether they would mimic the pain reducing effect have known swear words. One theory suggested that the swearing produces annual gecc effects through all tomic rosal caused by increased emotion. So you basically distracting yourself from what you're feeling by increasing the emotion inside of things are getting angry and punching something right?

To explore this idea of researchers chose the made up sweet d pouch, selecting for its of foul, yeah what a fought ah, selecting for its emotion provoking potential. Another theory suggests that swearing alleviates the pain by distracting attention away from the painful event. Researchers openly chose the second made of curse word twice pipe for its potential to evoke distraction through him. So fouche twice pipe don't work, as well as just screaming the airport if you're in pain.

that makes sense. But twist by sounds like a slave for british people doesn't IT. They can twist pipes here. Yeah.

a little bit. I don't know. It's fascinating how language gets sort of use and abuse. I was thinking, as I often do when I wake up, first thing in the morning was thinking about the end word.

And it's.

so what what did I seen? I'd seen direct poston uh doing his poddar ast and I think that playing it's kind like wheel of fortune but it's called who's that inward and they show they put IT up on the um on the screen and then they've .

gotto guess is that all .

black people? Yes okay. And I like IT is absolutely why and it's just the most liberal use yeah that it's every it's the thing like smarter ing a word with fuck like I like it's that but 反正 就是说 IT is so insane that we have this is fascinating.

is a .

boundary around the particular world itself.

I know I blame slavery. It's the only reason that I could be this powerful, you know, because obviously it's silly.

I grew up, I went to public school and all my black friends like, come on on and come on and and eventually after an hour you d say and they're like, so IT just proves like, okay, you can exist with a White saying this word and not lose complete control and beat the shit omy but IT is this just some about that word is just garner this because people used to say IT on the news and stuff in the nineties no way oh yeah, they'd like a they'd be reading like a police report and the demands to be, you know and IT was just like, you couldn't say IT at somebody, but you could still say IT reference. You could saw reference IT, and now you get even reference, yeah. And at the type of empowering, that's the ultimate powering but away.

Another thing, White people invented the inward, but and black. We will took IT and made IT cool. But IT is empower. That is empower. Like using IT, only you guys can use IT and you can if you do, we get to work you up.

Yeah, it's really, really when you try and think about IT just from outside of the culture and knowing the history of IT and how fraught IT is, yes, you realized this is so funny. The we have this sort of orbital boundary that I know around this particular world.

and it's a hilarious word. Whenever black comic use IT, the joke is twice as funny, correct? But I have an idea, and I tried this on stage, but it's two.

The world's not ready for this ship. So tell me what you think, guys, right? So what about an only fans for racism? So a black i'll be like, you sign up for my only fans.

And instead of seeing my vagina or seeing me my kids, you can call me the inward for a fee. I think this up here, and you can do IT with juice, asians, a gays and you, because people are onna, say IT anyway. So you might as well get the money from IT.

right? So you're kind of like a punch bag for people's racism. Let off five. Yeah.

yeah. I talked about in powering you. Read my friend. I was IT all started because I was bitching about people being made me in my comments on my videos. And my black friends, like you hurt, look at me and it's just n word, n word word was like a, well, you ve got me beat there that horrible and I was like, IT sucks that you can harness this and get paid because women are like, i'm getting harassed all day. You look at at my clever, i'll make money off IT yes, it's to by black people or due like .

palestinians.

What would that be? great.

Wow, I didn't realize. I wondered why um on a bunch of different comments sections there was so many niner.

Eo, je s yeah.

I had to have IT translated by my yes, did what like what am I missing something and he laid out for me yeah and I thought.

yeah Angele yeah exactly. The another friend that I had .

A A similar conversation with, he's got this. He's got disorder where he helps in the night. So it's very common amongst men that are, uh, late twenties, early thirties, very common uh and it's called parasomnia overlap disorder P, O, D. And basically, if he's a startled during the night, then he'll make a sort .

of her .

makes that kind noise yeah and we were away on a stack duo bachelor party year and a half ago. We will share is one of those things, the cheapest total that we could find in leads on manchester, whatever we gone to. And everyone is in a single, like a twin room with a single classic with british stack body.

And H I thoughted really loudly. So what that resulted in was that was the one two punch. And I just remember thinking like what a phenomenal issue to have. It's if someone breaks in.

you're nearly .

right thing if you've got .

some sort of an issue in the house and but he does .

he wake up.

he O, O.

no.

killed by the intruder and first ago and .

then it's a yeah.

yeah.

there go, which helps. So you can watch them come in and do that.

That's nice. The super stuff is my brother's a sleepwalk. It's all lucky, really.

Sleep walking is crazy. Went on. My mom found him naked, sleep walking and speaking french at a window.

Yeah, because we were in french of merger when we were kids. So he was naked, staring at a window, going, do you know my best, mark? whatever. And yes, so sleepy is fucked and weird because the psyche, no subcontract ships coming out.

I'd love to know why, like what? What IT is? How that even work? Are you conscious? Are you unconscious? I think you're color.

He doesn't remember IT the next morning he's like what really were walking.

You're up right? You know you were presumably opening door. Do stuff crazy. It's one of my friends is trying to lose the dream. Yes, he wants to be able to control these dreams and understand what he's doing. And then doing dream analysis is writing in in a dream journal, stuff like that.

Afterward, I had a weird dream last night, but I was late for electoral university and universe, fifteen years late for electronic university, and was held up by someone doing a photo shoot of horses. And I texted him, was like, do can you do some dream analysis on this? We know what that means. Yeah, i'm not really too sure. How I feel about analyzing your dreams is a deeper insight into your psyche.

IT is hard to tell how accurate is, but that is pretty cool. You know you're like, ah what does this mean what does that mean when I buy spiders and that is you you're taking on too much work and you hate your Better, whatever. So yeah that that is IT fascine. I'd love to how accurate that is.

It's the original apple vision pro ginning dream. What is that?

What are you doing with those on? I put IT on.

I ve seen a bunch of people that have got IT like a lot of people I know have sent this back .

really yeah I mean.

for grants, oh, what you need the battery pack and buy a special bag for IT and something else. Um I know maybe people are watching porn, i'm not sure.

but I up.

I don't know. The the V R thing for me is the one area where I was promised that this was going to be, yeah well changing, life destroying technology. And as of yet, I just haven't seen anything like the mass adoption.

And someone tried to say, well, look, the apple vision pro is the same as the first iphone. Look at how much more developed I from one through in was. And no, now I say, yeah, but iran, when the first iphone came out and people couldn't wait to get a hold of IT, IT was itself a useful revolutionary piece of kit and no one set IT back. Yes.

this yeah, yeah, yeah. No, i'm with you. But I mean, I just feels like we keep up in all this reality virtual so how long told it's going to be go to a party and be like let's just place gravel like that's going to be a novelty and so we're .

going to get so far technologically that eventually it's going be like come come .

to my house and let's hold a got hit about that blood crazy.

Well, you kind of we were saying this even before we started that for every reaction or for every action, there's a reaction and an account culture reread tion to everything and then there's a group of people saying that the people that are talking about this, that the real problem, yeah, yeah, it's a very predictable sequence of things that you go through.

But you're already beginning to see in Austin people say i'm out, i'm you know i'm going, i'm full ted kinski and this i'm going to get myself a range in dripping springs are in bus drop in two weeks ago went to a bastrop to this student house, beautiful, amazing house. And it's just him and his wife and his dogs and my kid, and he just wakes up on the morning and goes for a dip in the river. And it's like is regressed by one hundred years, hundred and years.

So if a gyan life and he's got this is the matter. Atos are coming in very nice, and it's going to be a good harvest. This whatever IT is. And I think that this is people doing the whole county culture thing.

I think so bad. Could you do that? There might be a personality thing too. I could never live like that.

I'd struggle to be away from a people and novelty, same like that.

This is nice now building up your channel, a goals and stuff I can't just have the tomato IT doesn't fulfill me. I don't.

Maybe it's an age, it's definite a previous position thing. But um yeah the dopamine side of life is still fun. It's just that all way over clock .

on the way over clock, you and it's hard to go back when you get that taste is hard to go back to. It's like success. It's hard to go down and success. You really hate yourself. There's a wills .

ith bit from his memoir, which was writing by mark man and the guy lot. Yeah, good. He says gaining fame is amazing. Being famous as next bike and losing famous, terrible.

Wow, that's so good. Yes, so true. And look at the slap yeah I mean, that's that's .

a big decline.

Nose dived. No fame.

isn't he filming? I am legend to .

year yeah I mean.

that could be the salvage moment. Better be good yeah, if it's bad than every single knife that someone has got behind that back is going to come out.

Kind of cool though. How much to help?

Chris rock IT.

well, I don't know about mentally. I'm sure that you'll fuck you up to get slept on live T. V.

And the whole world's side. But that was just such a insane moment that never had actually happened. Yeah, that happened.

It's real. All these conspiracies, real. But his special did Better that year than anyone else is because we're all like, I gotto hear about this.

Yes, and it's kind of nice when the country all knows about, we're also splinter red. So when the country all knows about one thing is kind of like, yeah no, that's my covet was kind of interesting. That was the first time we were global since like the olympics.

correct. But there was one moments firm, six weeks from march twenty twenty where everyone was kind of in IT together. Yeah, you know, I knew what I was like to be in wuhan, china, what I was like to be in new york city.

Everyone has locked down. Everyone was SAT. Everyone was insert about what was gonna en. sure.

Then very, very quickly, I just came back. So quick we will go negative quick. But yes, that slap was wild and that was kind of ool for comedy because you had to hear about IT, you know Chris rock already a great order and we're going to hear him talk about this that we all know about.

And it's kind of virtually prior, he let his hair on fire and went to jail in the seventies. Yes, and he did a special about IT and he was it's probably the best special of all time. It's call live in concert and he talks about the whole thing, but he doesn't hilarious ously.

He shoots his car. He hits his wife. He does drugs. Yeah, that's great.

It's interesting that um you need everyone to have an insight about one thing, like if everyone will I guess this is one of the reason to do I copy and masks and vaccines and was such A A popular talking point because you know that everyone knows what you're talk.

Yes yes, totally.

So the buying you know if he's start doing a joke about some obscure scatter that you liked in the nineties, you don't have sufficient background information through IT to be funny. Yeah for IT to really be interesting unless it's a super accessible story. But yeah that's the that's the consistent trend when something happens, it's completely global. It's so easy for people to wrap themselves around that narrow yes yeah I mean the .

same as the taw. I I was going to say that it's the super bol. So it's already the huge thing plus the biggest entertainer of our time is dating the fuck at quarterback or or or whatever is not the quarterback.

That's my homes. Yeah whatever he is healthy and it's like we're all onest. Some people hate her. Some people love that whole thing. It's it's fun to come back and be a country again.

You can bet I didn't realize this because amErica is a crazy place. You can bet on anything you can bet on. I know coin toss. You can bet on whether there will be a speaker.

Did you see that? That guy I saw that you bet .

that there would be a speaker. And he then struck.

oh.

that I didn't know that was him. I think that that's the truth. Unless illegal I might have been.

is IT what you can't fuck with the betting like that.

Try and fuck and stop me. okay?

I made a bunch of money on our share because I bet he would take a shirt off and he did. And I bet you kidding.

Yeah, I bet you did. Where did you go to bet this?

I would did IT in the room, but there's all these websites for. But I did. I was like, a bunch of comedians had a super ball party and I went.

I was like, that takes you sure on one guys that i'll take that but I made we're doing cam like a bookie in there. I was great. But yeah, yeah, the betting is fun.

How many times it's going to cut to tail us? yes. Where are not something going to show but light on camera.

right? right? Like shit. I know, I know about.

I swear, you could do whether the two captains would shake hands at the start, what the order of different songs was going to be, whether there was going to be fireworks like up everything. There is nothing that's not up for betting, which is why? Because in the U.

K. Sports bedding is something that completely ebionite really IT is everyone you can does basically no age restriction, apart from you need to do I D on your a mobile batting APP. But you can bet on above everything is not as inventive as what you guys do. But we have betting shops.

So on the high .

street there will be um color coral bet fred. Uh we'll be a couple of others and guys will just go and it'll have .

sport or horse racing. But this isn't like we used .

to have that O T B after bets. But yeah, this is different because there's no boost bing, you does no refreshments and that's not enjoyable place. It's purely there.

Those are addressing the act of yet. It's pull for the and y'll be a fit machine something. But it's not like this is dependent on stay by state basis.

Everyone, are you glad you're not a gaman ic? I mean, that is fuck that.

All fucked up of all of the Melody that you can have. Like alcoholism and gambling, I think you should we should all wake up every single day and be like, thank god that I didn't get that one. I know I was watching was watching a dinner White talking to a kyle and bob manage on the podcasting a couple of weeks ago and they're talking about Steve from the milk boys.

And he's got this sort of gambling compulsion. And I think dane has got a bit of that sort of he's got a bit the darkness in him. Two, what IT comes to gambling. He regular beat fifty grand a hand on black jack, oh, jesus.

and and he's got a zillion air.

But I I I mean, even he says that for him that quickly bum time, yeah, yeah. And he .

looked the worst kids show all we he bob time.

He kind of describes this state that Steve must get in and IT sounds like it's coming from like I know this because I get in IT yes, I think and he's like when he's I called IT like rolling or something like that when he's when he's doing this, you have one job and the job is to get him out of that and you can't do IT this way. You can't do IT that way because it's going to say that and is going to do the one so he's got and his own I think that this is IT sounds to me like a guy who has not only been through IT and wants people to get him out of IT, but has also had to talk himself out of IT too. Yeah, apparently, Steve, i'd been at this set of tables for twenty four hours and you just think, god, i'm so glad that that's not a pathology that I have hundred .

percent yeah, i've lost so much in gambling just with battle party biggest friends. He is flux around black jack and I always lose. So I just like, ah i'd rather save five hundred dollars then fuck around this black jack table so i'm i'm with you so glad we don't have IT and do you have a thing where you like this is why one issue that I need to get over.

I guess, kind of like phone use.

phone is bad yeah I find .

myself you know you be on a plane and you'll get IT out. You'll go and I don't have .

a signal one I know I don't think .

it's embarrassing. I think he man told me this. I I used to call IT an addiction, but I don't think IT is.

I think it's a compulsion. Yes, the reason is you'll know where the on your screen grow. It's compulsive. It's a compose compulsive behavior that has you know reward attached to IT to somewhere between computation and an addiction. And yeah that um .

it's like a cigarette you know the cigarette guys on a plane, they have to pick up the pack and they kind of flip IT around little bit. They know they can't smoke OK. And well, I guess they're rapping now but like a lot of guys I know group smoking and when I couldn't smoke they would just touch the pack and a similar, you know, they put IT on their lip, they put IT back in and a similar the phone you're like, oh, there's the youtube but you see IT, can't see IT and even I just hit IT and I will come up with White and flue you know and i'm still .

playing with IT it's was weird uh there was an interesting study done on um air host stresses whatever I called as you would fly to fly thank you very much. Flying from deby to paris and dubai, new york and they wanted to look at cravings for cigarettes. And what they presumed was that the longer time IT was from take off, the greater the craving would be.

So the longer flight, you should see both flights tracking at the same speed, and then one should be able to satisfy the craving. And the other, the craving should just continue to go up. What IT turned out was that the longer flight had onset of cravings that arrived way later.

And what IT reframes around a craving for addictions are that your craving is very heavily mediated by when your next expected hit is going to be, rather than when your last hit was. Now when you have like a physiological dependency, like, let's say you're on heroes en, you're gonna know if it's forty eight hours. Yeah, but with something like smoking, if you know that you've got six hours to wait until you are next cigarette right now, you're probably not going to be feeling IT too much.

But an hour before and thirty minutes before, it's really gonna rap up. So was all about the next expected hit. That was what really determined craving god wasn't about how long and been since the one is that because that's why the is yeah like that's what you're thinking about wow.

that's good. That makes sense. But to me, when I say we were sitting on the runway for a minute and I still have internet and I really I like god, you know because you like i'm i'm not be gone for four hours so I am going to really take IT in and then what you get, I did a united way.

You get free text so now i'm texting people I hate just so they can respond back ah you know because I am like a what text if I put off, let me knocked that. But you're right, the promote the phone is we all know it's harmful. It's bad for you IT frage your brain, but you need IT.

You got the restaurant ago. We know a paper menu. You got the airplane.

We need your boarding pass. Ah you're onta pay with your phone sometime. So like no other drug is like that. You know it's not like, hey, you want to do your taxes, you're going to smoke this crack pipe.

No, you know, the phone is such a, is that as the balls have a meditation APP on too? What what a dirty move I have we said it's like putting a, but not a gun go to safety, you know, like what do you do what to me? You know you're fuck and ruling my life and I going to put a meditation APP on this thing that ruined all of our attention.

Planes about it's evil. They got us. They got us by the balls. We can not use a phone yes ah .

one of my friends as a solution he calls has two phones once the cocaine phone and the other is the kale phone. So I love this yeah so as two numbers, one has got email and message and social media and all of that one and then the other one has just got uber .

and kindle and .

audible and it's ic, you live with that one, right? But the other one is all of the olympic jack.

That's great. We need that with wives. You know, you need like wife who has your kids and cooks and cleans and like the life in the free yeah, the one that you too lady on yeah yeah lady and the freak no, that would be nice the moment figure that .

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