When Personal Life is Public (ft. Monet McMichael)
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make sure you can't see me well where are you i'm laying in the hallway i'm trying to podcast right now and braxton's laying on the hallway so he's not in it you're still in the camera tell me where am i supposed to go you're like i don't just sit like sit there i don't think you're hearing me i don't think you're listening in the bed i'm gonna be in the back would you rather people say you've lain in the bed or laying on the floor or

Your hand. Yeah, just keep it low. Thank you for accommodating. This is unbelievable. I'll be done shortly. Okay. Welcome back to another episode of Hot Mess with Alex Earle. Happy Thursday. I've been moving like a hot mess.

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We are in Cannes this week for Lions Film Festival, which I really didn't know. Wait, Lions Film Festival. Oh my god, that's not it. It's Lions Festival. There's the Cannes Film Festival and then there's Cannes Lions Festival and I keep combining the two. The film is like movies, red carpets and such. The Lions Festival, which I'm at right now, is where a lot of brands like

every big brand basically has representatives here. They also have big events on the beach and there's panels and it's a big networking event. So I'm doing a lot of meetings this week. And then there's also like dinner parties, but it's, it's really been interesting because I've been here for a few days now. And it's like, you're at dinners with the CEO of every single like big company you could think of. And everyone's just like partying and having a good time. And it's,

It's a very fun dynamic here. I was like, this is my type of networking that I like to do over a glass of wine in the south of France. As I'm here this week for work, there's also some other creators here as well. And one of my favorite girlies, Monet McMichael, is here. So we were talking the other night and we were like, we should do a podcast, just do a little mental health update. How are the girls feeling? What's going on? And we kind of talked about, I guess, the...

behind the scenes or just some of the stuff we go through just posting our lives online. Monet is absolutely amazing. I feel like we post a lot of the same kind of content on TikTok. It's like get ready with me's outfits, just lifestyle content. We share our friendships, our relationships, our families. So I would say like we have a very similar platform and I think a lot of you guys obviously know who Monet is. So I think this will be a really fun episode for us to just have some girl time and you guys listen in on it.

Some of what we're going to be talking about today, I guess, is dealing with posting your lives online. And it seems like a stupid problem, but there's just so much that goes into it, like mentally seeing people just like judge every aspect of your life and like make comments on it because we are posting our lives and our relationships. I feel like I never really kind of get on here and talk about how like

I feel or how you know it is being perceived by so many people because it's honestly like kind of scary at times not gonna lie it's like just I don't know even I see podcast clubs and everyone just like nitpicking every little thing apart and I'm like I cannot look at these things but posting your life online you've become like a

character of a sort. So it's been, I guess, over the past year, I've just been kind of like navigating how I feel about that and like if I'm gonna read stuff about myself or not. And I guess it's kind of, I don't know, I feel kind of like awkward talking about it sometimes just because it's not something that a lot of people can relate to. But having Monet on this week, I think it just kind of felt like natural for us to talk about and give me a space to talk about this with her and just like have someone else there that like relates to me so I don't feel like I'm stupid.

for the things that I'm saying. And I don't know, I think it'll be interesting for you guys to hear and I guess some of the behind the scenes that I don't really talk about of posting my life online. It's a really weird concept when you think about it of just

so many people and how they perceive you and that's something that a lot of my friends sometimes if I like post with them or podcast with them they'll be like oh my god I cannot believe like how many people are perceiving me right now and just like I don't know listening to something I've said for 20 minutes and thinking they just like know so much about me and I guess it is kind of a weird concept that you just kind of like have to get used to when you're posting online and I don't know I guess I

I kind of tried to just like ignore it. I'm like, I'm not gonna read into this too much. I don't really need to know what people are thinking about me besides the girls. Besides the Earl girls, I'm listening to you guys. But the other people, I'm like, I'd rather just not. I don't need to know. So the first night I got here before we really got into any of the stuff going on this week. And, you know, I'll be in Europe for...

three weeks. I keep saying three weeks, but I think I'm lying. I think it's only like two, but I'm extending in my mind. It's three weeks and we're going to be going to Venice, Capri, Saint-Tropez after this. So, I'm also going to be vlogging, doing a whole separate podcast episode on the whole Europe trip with Braxton and going over everything Europe and how it goes. I

But for this episode, we're going to be sitting down with Monet and we had some fun girl talk. I think it's going to be really, really exciting for you guys to hear. She's super, super amazing. And I'm sure you all know who Monet is. So let's go back to when we sat down and talked the other night.

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Monat.

Alex. We are in Cannes. We're in Cannes, south of France. It's my first time here. Me too. I've never been here. It's so beautiful. It's really pretty. I've only spent the day here so far. You just got in. Literally. And I got in in the middle of the night and this hotel is like right on the water. I had no idea because it was pitch black out and I woke up this morning and I was like,

holy shit like this is beautiful so blue like when I flew in I was like you know I've been a lot of places but like I don't know I'm really excited for this trip like I'll be here until Friday how about you I think it's Friday the 21st yeah I don't like know the days I don't know what's going on like let's just take a day by day it's really nice on the east coast though taking a night flight did you take like a night flight and just sleep yeah we went overnight and we were Miami to Paris and then the Paris airport for like

six hours and then here yeah literally same i left last night my flights were delayed that's why i'm like it's 9 p.m we're supposed to have like a nice vibey like film with the sunlight and shit meanwhile we got champagne and jamie's in bed but i love that for us yeah i was like we need sunlight for this actually we're just hibernating in bed on sunday i prefer this but it's perfect yeah but on the way here dude this is my first time it was like

bound to happen i lost my fucking luggage yeah that's has it happened to you before no but i i feel like i've gotten like it's been lost but like found but it's not been like lost lost but it's gotten like stuck in transmission and i started putting before the strip actually i put air tags like in all my suitcases because i was like i don't trust it i'm gonna lose something dude i do that too and this is the one time i used like a different luggage that didn't have it in it and everything else that i have has an air tag on it besides the one that was lost

And this is the one it's not even registered like in the system. It's like this bag doesn't exist. I was like,

So you just don't know where your bag is right now? Oh my god, bro. They literally were like, we'll just let you know if we ever find it. I was like, that is the worst news ever. I'm not like too materialistic where I'm like, whatever, I can replace things. But like, I'm going to my office for the trip. We're popping. That sucks. And like my jewelry. You're going to find it. You're going to find it. It'll come back. I feel like it happens so often now that it like, it will come back. It has my jewelry though. It's the one thing I'm just like, I collect and like all of them are so sentimental and I'm, I'm

knew I should have put up my carry-on but well maybe not because I so you know when like stylists pick out some stuff for you and my stylist had like these nice jewelry pieces like diamonds like she's like this is like the fine jewelry like don't lose this Alex and I was like okay they always need to give me like an extra warning because I'm a disaster and I put it in my carry-on because I was like I don't trust myself to put it in the actual like checked-in luggage just in case it gets lost because like I feel like traveling to Europe like you never know what's gonna happen and

so I put this big bag of fine jewelry in the checked on like carry-on bag and it has all my podcast equipment in it so like when it goes through security they always like give it a really tough time yeah they take it out they swipe down everything and we get back to the hotel last night I'm unpacking everything and I go to take the jewelry out to put it in the safe and it's not in the carry-on and I was like

Where's the jewelry? So I'm like starting to like turn purple because I'm nauseous. And I was like, I don't even know how expensive the jewelry is that I just like lost. And I was like, it has to be at the airport. Yeah. And it ended up that my assistant actually put it in.

a purse. So it was already like in the closet in a purse and I found it. But this was like an hour and a half last night that I was on the phone with the Paris airport with the lost and found. And I was like, I have like a bubble wrap bag of jewelry. And I was like, I'm never getting this back. And I was like about to vomit. Oh my God. We got it. Okay. I'm going to channel that energy and just hope that that's the case for me too. It's coming back. Right.

It has to. Shit starts tomorrow early morning. So I'm just like, I'm glad we had these jammies. No, we have our matching jammies. We have been abroad together many times. No. More than me and my friends. We met in Dubai. Isn't that crazy? The iconic Dubai trip. The tart Dubai trip.

That was crazy. I remember I was honestly kind of nervous to meet you because the internet was doing its thing like with us at that point. And I was just like, I hope Alex knows I'm just like tuning everything out and just ready to just like embrace her for who she is and just like excited to just meet each other. And it was crazy. I remember like it was at night in Dubai. Everyone was already there. Me and my mom showed up late and

Yeah, it was crazy. No, I remember before we first met, I was like really nervous to meet you. And I was just like, oh my gosh, I hope she likes me. And you asked me to like come make a TikTok or something with the other twins. And you were like, let's make like a get ready with me like video montage together. And I was like so nervous. I was like, I...

You would have thought I was packing for like the Met Gala to come over. I was like, oh my God. I was like, what do I wear? What do I say? And I was like, okay, she's like really cool and nice. And I was so happy. Wait, but that was honestly so funny too because when I texted Alex, I was like, yeah, let's meet at like my villa because we had like our own houses, guys. This trip was nuts. Yeah. If you remember, like we had our own like whole houses. So I was like, how about we all just meet at my place? And there was like four vanities, which was perfect. And I was like, let's just get ready together. I was like, show up in like jammies and like no makeup.

Why did Alex knock on my door? I literally opened the door. I'll never forget this. Oh, my God. The most insane outfit, beat face, hair snatch. She was like, I'm ready. I was like, Alex, wait. Wait. Did you... Like, we were supposed to get ready together. No, I was like...

You know when it's like you feel like the like cool girls invite you to do something and you like show up like wrong or something and I like show up. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna wear my best outfit this night because like I'm going to hang out with Monet. I knock on the door and they're like all like no makeup. Bald. Literally in their sweats and I was like, holy shit. I was like, let me run back and I like, I think I just like wiped everything off really quick. I was like sprinting for my life. I felt so bad because like we already were running late and I was just like,

You're like, should I take my makeup off? And I was like... I think it'd be worth it to just do it. And it was honestly so worth it. I was new to the vibe. But that was a great video. I loved that video. I definitely want to do it again. That's when I was really just like...

Like, ooh, I don't know how I was editing and delivering things that quickly. You are like... You make movies. You really do. Every time I go for interviews and they're like, who do you love on social media? I'm like, Monet. I'm like, do you see like... Me to you. The content that you put out is so good. Stop it. I'm like, you need to give us all like a... Do you use CapCut? I use Videoleap. But honestly, I'm not... I don't even know what that is. I'm not mad at CapCut. They're like sisters, honestly. CapCut just has cooler templates and stuff that I probably should be using, but...

Yeah. I love to edit. I feel like that's just like what honestly got me started. So I'm glad that that worked out. And like, oh my God, we had like a shared album. We were like, I was like, everyone record on your phone. And of course mine wouldn't load to the shared album. And like everyone else was uploading their videos. And I was like, it's coming. Like, I swear to God, I'm not trying to keep this video. So with like...

brand things and stuff, I feel like... Because I started to honestly just, like, take a little bit more time for, like, myself because I was, like, getting so wrapped up in, like, saying yes to everything that I was like, oh my gosh, like, I need to, like, live my own life and be my own person. It's honestly so refreshing when everyone, like, we touch base or, like, talk to other creators too where I'm just like, how are you feeling? And everyone's, like, always so fucking stressed and everyone's always so just, like, trying to find that balance. It's such an interesting life. I feel like we'll randomly text like that where I'm like, uh, what are you doing with this? Yes! I'm like, how are we feeling? Because...

it's so new yeah it is it's like it feels like we've been doing it forever but also it's like just yesterday it feels like we were just in college just little girls just little girls trying to take over the world and like yeah and you ended up graduating too right oh yeah girl we got the degrees over here cheers cheers to that i need a sip i need a refresher

since monday's in her rose era i was like we have to get rose for this how fucking sweet is that y'all like sometimes it makes my face like red and hot oh really rose or champagne i don't know if i'm like allergic anything i don't know sparkling wine-ish so if i start having like a allergic reaction just no wait what's your tea when you're drinking i like a tequila soda okay same and i got some on vacation last week with my family and my little brother was like what

Like, what the fuck is this? He's like, this is what you drink for fun. I was like, it just gets the job done. It does. And it's not like you don't get, like, a sugary hangover. Yeah. Just a tequila hangover. The last time I really saw you... Unless... Well, besides Vegas, but in New York for Halloween at Heidi Klum's Halloween party. Oh, my God. Yeah. Literally, this is, like...

The coolest party ever. And me and Monet are at the corner of this table just like whispering in each other's ears about like life and like taking a moment for ourselves. That was like the highlight of my night. Yeah. Like it was so fun getting dressed and just like your look was insane, bro. But I look back on that now and I'm like,

Let's be a little like sexier next year. No, no. Like I looked like scary. That goes down in history. Was that your one look? You had other looks though, right? I was Madonna for the other thing. See, that was the sexiest look. You have a balance. Yeah, yeah. But I was like scared. I like looked back at the Instagram I posted. I was like, who is that? But it was fun. It was a cool party. You get points from me like...

The girls, I get it, get it. And I got it. It was Heidi's, so we had to go all out. Yes. No, seriously. That was such a... What are we doing there? Such a fun night. I know. I'm like casually just like, yeah, when we're at Heidi Klum's Halloween party, like...

I was having literally a girl session in the corner and I'm like, how do we even balance? Like, how do you even, how do you balance? How do you disconnect? How do you feel like you take a beat for yourself? That's something that I've like really honestly been struggling with, which I never really talk about because it's hard because it's like you want to put out fun, entertaining content. And I don't know, it's just like I always find myself recording everything. And I'm like, is there a moment where I like have this,

the cameras off and I was honestly thinking about I'm going to Capri after this with Braxton for like three days and I was like I honestly want to just like not post anything for three days which sounds crazy and it's like okay like yeah that's not that hard to do but it's like I like try to post like still like four times a day and like it's just like constantly I don't know 24 7 so I've been trying to like compartmentalize yeah I will say like I definitely I

was like that and then once I started to separate it it became easier to like pick and choose what I'm filming and what I'm doing but like part of me still feels guilty I just want to show up for my girls and just make sure I'm just like just sharing because that's our job that's their full-time job so it's like who's gonna tell you to take a break who's gonna tell you to like

you know, choose that moment for you. Your mind is like always on social media. It's like you can't really turn it off. It's kind of hard. No, you like think in terms of content. You're like, oh wait, actually this would be a really great content for a video. Like hold on, pause. Let me get the camera. And it sounds like very stupid and like we're not complaining, I would say. It's just like it's a, because I hate when people do that too. And it's like, yeah, don't be ungrateful for like the job that you have, you know. But I think there is a part where it's like it gets tricky just like

like mentally for yourself and like I was talking to a therapist and she was like you have to like think of it as like you know work Alex and then like regular Alex but I was like but it is regular Alex that is posting which is like hard for me because like some people like are more of like a character yeah but I would say like we both post like lifestyle content exactly I feel like we have the same like pillars like we do share a personal life we share our family like our friends and like

yeah, our relationship. It's, like, very personal. It's very much us. It's, like, it started off just as fun. And, like, now that there's a lot more to consider. And it is, like, an industry where you can, like, say yes to too many things and, like, lose yourself a little bit. So I think it is important to, like, still try and prioritize. Like, you can try to prioritize. Yeah. You could try. But make the video. No, I mean, my therapist for, like, twice a week for, like,

a while like i was like girl i need to figure this out because yeah i feel like i'm going crazy sometimes just like even with personal life i feel like therapy has just been so fire for me like no it's honestly great yeah i love it like an unbiased opinion like i just talk about myself the whole time like my girl is so good can you please listen to me just like complain for an hour like she's like i'm here literally just for you to vent i'm like it's amazing yeah

Yes, therapy. Okay, I'm happy you also go to therapy. Oh, yeah, girl. I'm like so open about it. I feel like it's so useful. On the topic of sharing things online and stuff.

Like, obviously something we also have in common is we both share our relationships. Yeah. Which, like, having a public relationship is a whole other monster in and of itself. Yeah. So, like, how do you deal with, like, what you share of your relationship and what you don't? Yeah. Do you, like, have a boundary with that? I feel like I tried at first for sure. Me and Jalen were together for...

name dropping. I'm like, I can name drop me and Jalen. I'll just say Jalen. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Me and Jalen were together for a while before we went on social media. And I was like, from the beginning, I was like, we need to figure out if like, this is it before, you know, cause it's a big deal once you go to the internet, because I feel like people love relationships. People love drama. I'm like thinking of like all the, you know, shows that surround that and just like, yeah, I just, I feel like it's something very precious that

You know, I wanted to keep to myself and I feel like you probably feel the same too where it's like it's scary to share but also there's so much love and like so much you want to share. It's like this is the happiest I've ever been and like the most exciting part of my life and it's just natural that like we share that in general. So yeah.

it was inevitable yeah to just like share your relationship yeah i started like i tried to like tease it was actually this time last year with broxton i was like okay like i posted something like going on a trip and i was like little hint like his like arm or something was in it and obviously everyone like saw his necklace and they were we know exactly who that is yeah like spotted us out and uh it was just like scary and then like listening to like online opinions and stuff and i just like

have commitment issues myself so it's like we were we didn't end up dating until like November officially but like I would like post a lot with him and I mean he's been really great with like having me post him and stuff because like some guys are like weird about that yeah yeah and it is fun to like have someone who also like supports you and like wants to make videos with you because that's also like rare to find because like yeah some people are like what are you doing yeah no I literally experienced that like in my past relationships too like when you feel that vibe it's like

Yeah, I've experienced that. That was a big thing, honestly, for me recently that I talked about in therapy was I just felt like I was losing like something and...

not like a spark in my relationship but just like something like because I was sharing everything like all of our date nights everything intimate that he did like a card anything sentimental Valentine's Day I'm like vlogging all of it and posting all of it and while that was like great I just felt like I was losing that like part of us that was like our relationship like just that intimacy like in the beginning you know when it's almost like fun when it's like you're hiding it a little bit or it's like not all out there that's like how I started to feel so I started posting a

less of our like intimate special things which I still post a lot of him and it's hard because it's like obviously he's like my best friend we're together 24 7 and I'm posting my life so it's like whatever and he's down to do it with me so it's hard but it's like those like little special moments and I say this now and people are gonna watch my whole Europe content and be like she's posting everything I get an excuse for Europe okay yeah I want to post what's going on in Europe but like I had to start like

like differentiating that content and it's honestly been helpful i feel like even though you might feel like you still post a lot it's like when you spend 24 hours with someone you only post like 30 seconds it's like it might seem like a lot for the internet there has to be a part that's like also for you guys exactly but like jaylen also posts wait did you say his name or did you go back okay yeah but jaylen also posts

like for himself like he has like an account going for himself too because i'm like so it's like both of you going at it yeah before i always like i could never be with a content creator like i'm just like i don't like that just doesn't even make sense to me and i feel like there's not a lot of like straight men that are on tiktok that like are not cringe all love all love but like i couldn't see myself with that person and like i think that he is just so so different he was honestly the exception i was like

This is something i'm so willing to just like figure out together He inspires me to be a better person I remember you said too that like braxton made you feel like you wanted to like be a better girlfriend Oh my god, yes, and just be a better person. I was like wait I suck. No I was like wait a minute Yeah, even him advocating for therapy and like seeing how we would like kind of handle, you know disagreements together like he really is just like patient and like It's such a healthy kind of like thing that we figure out together and i'm like, okay. I need to figure out Okay

I can be like that too recently Jalen went on a podcast where he was talking about your guys relationship and he wasn't even talking about our relationship honestly just like talking about what what was it talking about like a provider like honestly you're gonna know better than I am yeah but like the internet just like took that and it's running with it honestly I feel like we both have like had a moment where just like the internet has assumptions about like our relationship and like

It's intense. It is. It's really intense and it affects, I feel like, for me personally, like both of us because it's like, whoa. Do you like read or like watch videos that are like about you or read comments about you? You know what? That's something I had to really cut out of my life. Like in therapy, for my mental health to literally be sane, I had to like, I don't look at my mentions anymore. And when I see it, when I open my app and it's like,

500 mentions i actually want to pass away yeah like it makes me sick to my stomach anytime i see a video it's like i'll scroll it's like me talking on the podcast scroll i'm like i can't look about my look about myself i can't look at myself don't want to hear me don't want to hear about me like i'm like it's not gonna i'm so glad that you do that too yeah because like i get like scared it's so toxic yeah it is i have to just scroll

Yeah, same and even with comments It's like sometimes i'll just like literally open and just look at the first two to see like maybe a little peek but like It's never worth it because I feel like it really just will send me in a spiral you have to be stronger than other people's assumptions and thoughts about you and it's

way easier said than done last year i want to say the first time anyone ever told me about like reddit and i didn't even know what reddit was i was like trigger warning they were like never read about yourself on reddit so obviously i'm like okay well i'm gonna go search myself up on reddit and i looked uh i was down there for like 30 minutes i think i was on the treadmill and i was like you know what i was like i'm never doing this again ever and i just like cannot look at that because that's just that's not like a nice place but like

I feel like comments on my video. I like my comments and I always know when it's like the girls. I'm like the girls, they're at the top, they're there. That's so true. If like their comments are turning negative and it's like my girls and you know, and then I'm like, okay, we'll switch things up. Like maybe they don't like something I'm doing, but like they're always positive for the most part. And then when you go down, it's like the deep seas. You like can't scroll too far because then the lurkers get in there, like the troll accounts. And I'm like, I don't actually need to know what you say. No, that's so true. Like I always, always think about like my...

my ride or dies like the girls who have been through thick and thin and literally stand by which is like majority all the time but yeah sometimes the negativity just feels so loud but like literally what brings me back to earth is thinking of that and then also thinking about like they're kardashians bro i'm literally like i don't know how they do it and it's like you have to just keep going and just like not let people determine who you are so weird you say that because i actually was just watching a video on my tiktok and it's like

The Kardashians, it was saying before and after. It was analyzing anything they could have had done and whatever. And I was just like, this is so crazy because I feel like you become a character, essentially. It's like we put ourselves out there and people are allowed to say whatever they want. And we are this online character. But it's weird because we're also just people. I'm just a girl. I'm just a girl. Something...

Someone told me one time is they were like, don't listen to criticism from someone you wouldn't take advice from. And I think about that a lot of the times. I'm like, you don't know me enough to give me personal advice. So maybe I won't listen to your hateful comments. Time back to the relationship of it all. I feel like honestly, it's made us grow just like stronger. I feel like because you have to kind of just

not internalize the comments and like all the opinions and kind of things like that once you conquer the internet I feel like I don't even know if it's possible you can't listen to it and like you have to like accept that especially in like a relationship too it's like you can't let it

pin you against each other I guess in a way because like that was a moment too where like last summer everyone was like hating on Braxton and everything I was seeing about him I was like okay well I know this isn't true because it involved me so I was like I know this isn't true so like I just like had to like stick with that but it's hard too how do you like not say anything because I feel like that's the hardest part for me sometimes I'm like it's not replying back to it yeah I'm like I want to clap back so many times where I'm just like I know this is so obviously not

true yeah i everyone always says that like it's always better just like don't say anything i agree and it like it is because then you say something and i just feel like it can make it so much worse but it's so hard i've had so many things where i've drafted and just like not posted it and i was like about to just go off and then everyone's like hey be the bigger person like just keep moving on i'm like oh

I'm so glad like we can relate on so many different levels like I'm so glad we're I'm chit-chatting with Alex Earl like there's realness online and also just like that realness like your heart and just like what it's like I don't know it's just a unique experience I'm glad I get to talk to you about like did you see when I like found that dress with puke on it oh yeah

all these people who don't even know me they're like this is like a nasty girl like I'm not nasty it's one nasty moment okay it was a mistake yeah but it's like there's simple things like that they wouldn't really probably say that to your face exactly wouldn't really probably not hopefully not no seriously I'm like can you imagine saying this like one of your friends I'm like some people be talking crazy I'm like can you imagine or just like hold your friends and family at the same like kind of accountability because I know it's like we're all human at the end of the day and it's just like

it's not that deep you know what i think about too which helps me is like i've only ever met girls out who are so nice and no one's like have you ever met someone that said something mean to you oh never i was exactly yeah like no one's gonna like come up and like have the balls to say something like that so it's just it's just chatter yeah and we get so much love like oh my gosh the girl i can't imagine the girls you meet too it's like

It's so fun. I can like spot them. I know. I'm like, whenever I go certain places, I'm always like, I love it. It's like, I'll always take that time to just like have a conversation. I'm like, what's your life like? Like, I've been watching you since nursing school. Like I'm a nurse now. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, it's so rewarding. It's crazy. Do you ever think about that? Like, I don't know. That like is another thing that gives me imposter syndrome because I'm always like, wait, what? Like, I feel like it's cooler. Like, I'm like, I can't believe I'm meeting like you guys.

it's like that's crazy that's insane that's why I feel like I always love to just like take a moment and just like have a conversation because I'm like what are the odds that we cross paths and like I don't know I live on a screen yeah basically to so many and when I was in the Bahamas this week girl it was like a whole meet and greet they were recognizing my dad like my siblings I was like yo this is like yeah that's crazy but truly we I feel like are so grateful oh yeah and I just have like the coolest jobs ever and I can't even believe that yeah a job and it

it's so exciting and yeah you're also a big like vlogger youtube girl yes i'll be tapping in every sunday i'm so i love my youtube gang i feel like that's where it's like yeah really locked in because like you really have to be dedicated to sit down and watch like 30 minutes of me just like talking do you edit all your own vlogs yeah that's so cool

I'm getting tired though I'm trying to like delegate and figure out how to like do it but I'm such a like perfectionist I'm like I know how I like to do it I don't even know how to teach it yeah but eventually like with some stuff I'm like I don't want to like give that up or people are like oh do you edit all your own videos and I mean mine aren't that great so you could probably tell no but I'm like I like love to do it yeah it's so cool being able to have a job that you're like so passionate about yes no it's such a

Such a treat. It's such a treat. No, seriously. Like it's you film an app, right? You still film like an app. I've been I've been doing more camera roll. No way. No, because when we met in Dubai, like you were churning out videos by the time we got to the event. Like I saw your outfit in TikTok. I was like, girl, I saw your outfit before I saw you. And I was like, this was 10 minutes ago. What the fuck? So so you do it in camera roll now? Yeah. For most of them. And you use CapCut. Mm hmm.

For real, though. I'm learning from Minay. Even you taking on, like, podcasting. You guys, I don't know if you know, Alex already has three cameras all by herself. There's no one else in this room, it's just us. She came in here and she was like, I thought you were going to have, like, a camera crew set up. And I was like, no, this is why it looks like shit half the time, because I don't know how to work all of these cameras. But it's fun. This is next level. I applaud you. Like, even doing my own vlogs, like, casually on my camera, it's, like, enough in itself to just worry about. So...

She got the mics rolling. She got three SD cards. Don't play with her. Do not. Speaking of business, Mona, you have your Rose Sniff. Oh, my God. Yes. Wait, I brought you one. Really? Yeah, because I was trying. Okay. Oh, my God. You're so sweet. This is her. Okay. Plug. Tell us about this. This is Rose Era, you guys. It's my collaboration with Sniff, and I'm so proud of it. I honestly love it. Oh.

It's very clean. It's very fruity. She's sexy. She has layers to it. When you spray it, it's like... Okay, this is like clean and it's not like a daunting heavy... Yeah, like floral. I'm not even just trying to like gas you right now. This is good. Y'all heard it here first. Wow. Oh my God. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to spray this and I guarantee you Braxton's going to come back and be like, you smell

wait i will yes i have to tell you try and catch it on camera what what really made me love it like the moment like really sealed the deal for me was when i jaylen doesn't ever pay attention to like i don't know he thinks i'm beautiful in every form like whenever i'm fully glammed up like bitch i could be going to the met gala he'd be like you look great and like when i wake up literally my bun is on the side of my head he's like you look the most beautiful ever so like he'll never kind of like call out things like that um but fragrance like

When I walked into the house and I had my, I had like the final sample on, he was like, you smell so good. I didn't even get to him yet. I walked into the door. He's like, you smell so good. And I was like,

that honestly had me doing backflips bro like it really sealed the deal and like my best friend Ari too she's like very big on fragrance she's very specific she'll always go through my fragrance collection she's like I like it but like not for me like I like it but like she's always been she likes her specific smells and when she told me she was like this is like the one and I know when that girl is lying I literally know when she's telling the truth

So, yeah, just having like her stamp of approval, Jalen's, my mom loves it. And like, yeah, just the feedback is so good. Wait, did you? So you like created this flavor yourself? Yeah, girl, from scratch. I didn't get to share like the journey as much as I wanted to, I feel like, because it was so broken up. It was so like spread out throughout a whole year of just like sniff sessions and like, yeah, literally. Did you not get lightheaded?

lightheaded like smelling perfume like i think i would pass out like no i always think that about people who come out with like i'm like do you have to take like an hour in between each sniff because i would pass out yeah i had a banging headache after every smell session because we had to smell different ones compare like what we like better than this one by the end of it i was just like i don't fucking know what it smells like anymore like and i had to take a break what it is yeah

It's intense. It's so good. I'm glad you like it. Very fresh. Yeah. Loving it. You're queen, like, coming out with all of this stuff over here. I have your Desi sunglasses in here. The sunglasses you have, like, the big puffer thing. Yes. I travel with that now. Oh, wow.

Wait, I love that because I was hoping that it would just be like a staple because I love to use it too. Because I travel with so many sunnies. But not my Desi shades making the SI cover. What? I literally brought all my sunglasses to the Sports Illustrated and they were like these ones and I was like, Mona. Let's go. It's so exciting though. They look so good on you. Yeah. Honestly. Oh, thank you. You fucking too. I'm like, literally Sports Illustrated like fucking swim is like, it just...

it just makes so much sense that was like on my like goals of something to do like ever and i never really thought it would happen it's like been in my journal for so long and i got that call and i was like i love seeing like what we kind of like what pockets we fall into and like what we create because it's like yeah we're all so unique and different and like it just makes so much sense and it's so perfect for you you fucking ate that walk no i didn't yes i did i was running you don't feel like you did

I don't know. I mean, after I had so much adrenaline, I was like, oh my god, amazing. And now I'm like looking at myself and I was like, actually, like, I think I sprinted. But I don't even care because it was just like such a fun moment. And I got to bring out with my sisters too. So it was like, I was just emotional the whole day. Girl, you fucking slayed. Who said you couldn't walk? You know, the comments.

But I think we should play a game of never have I ever. And then we'll drink our little rosé if we have, I guess, right? Yeah. If we have. Yeah. I listed some things here and we'll keep it pretty PG, you know? Well, never have I ever deleted a post because of comments.

oh i have so i sip if i have yeah i think i want to say i've like deleted comments i want to say i probably have so i can actually tell you the post i deleted honestly i'm gonna take it there it was it was a doja cat song when everyone was like hating her and everyone's like how dare you literally post this like are you trying to be annoying like this is like this is how you cancel yourself i was like

Yeah. Delete. Yeah. I just was like, damn. I love Doja Cat. Yeah. Sorry. Never have I ever made a fake account to stalk someone. I have. I think if my Finsta counts. Okay, but this is a different...

Never have I ever made a fake account to comment hate. Oh, no. Never. That's where I think, like, you're weird. That's, like, some psycho shit. That's what I think about. I'm like, at least do it from, like, your own page. Say it with your own chest. There's some scenarios where I'm like, user 75281. I'm like, this sounds very, like... And, like, when they know too much. I'm like... Yeah, I'm like...

Who says? Are you in my friend group? Yo, I'd love to find someone where it's like found in your contacts and then like you have the phone number and it's like, oh, I know exactly who this is. Like that'd be crazy. Never have I ever bought a fake designer bag.

I did. I went through a phase. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I probably thrifted. I would call it my goach bag because it was like coach but with G's. No. I thought, I don't want to say the brand because I'm like, please, like never not wear it with me. Be like, coach. But I had like a fake dupe of this bag and I got it off Amazon and it literally was like until like last year and I was like going to wear it somewhere and someone was like, you like cannot wear that because if the brand sees that, like you'll never be able to work with someone else. Did you know it was fake?

yeah but it was like it was like a dupe oh yeah it was like a dupe it didn't say like a logo or anything yeah but it was like a dupe but i did go through a phase in high school where my friend showed me in new york what's the street where it's like all the fake bags i had a fucking deal oh my god really they can make like a

fake Louis Vuitton bag for like a see I should know that street I'm like no you I feel like I know you're talking about I don't know the name it's um I don't remember but my friend showed me it in high school and it was literally her birthday trip we went to New York City and she was like we're going to this street and like getting designer bags and I had like a field day and I let's go like show up to high school like all these designer bags and Gucci belts and I was like it was all fake honestly I don't feel a way about it though I'm just like oh

hmm yeah if you want to rock your zoop oh yeah and manifest yeah i'm i feel like fine with it but don't lie yeah don't lie i've had friends before actually where they've had like a fake bag and i've been like girl that's not even like spelt right and they're like they're like what like it's real and i was like you don't have to lie like say it with shame i mean say it with pride say it with your chest

Wait, that's so true. Yeah, just don't lie about it. Yeah. Never have I ever lost or ruined something from a stylist. I honestly literally this past week at the Rose Era party, literally these two fire ass bangles. I know they're somewhere, but honestly, if she asked for them back, like...

I really like them, so I'll just send her the receipt. Just send me the receipt. For anyone who, like, doesn't know, because honestly, I didn't know until this past year how, like, a stylist works, is they will help pick out outfits for you, and you basically, like, pay them. So where it's, like, worth it is you'll pay them for, like, an outfit. Say it's, like, a designer dress or something. It's, like, you don't want to spend all that money on a dress, so you pay them, like,

the fraction of it for the styling fee and then you have to return it after so like anything you get from a stylist or something you wear and that's what like a lot of like celebrities or like big brands people wear it's like it's like a loan like they give it back after this actually goes into what we were talking before about the halloween party yeah do you remember so i was the witch the white witch from narnia for halloween this year and i had a big like stick they got me like the big like it was the steak the ice stick no just wait it cracked in half

And I was like, no problem. Glue. Send it back. I was like, let's hope no one knows. Yeah. They messaged me back. It was a replica like from the movie. And it was like a collector's item. And I was like, oh my God. Snapped it in half. Oh no. They need to preface with that. Yeah. I was like, give me some warning. Don't let me take that to a party. Yeah. A big ass 10 foot stick to a party. Of course I'm going to break it. But it was fine. We figured it out. I just had to pay for it, which was not fun. Damn.

Damn. That's how you know Alex is in play. It's like real deal. That's straight out the movie. It's just straight out the movie. Monet. Oh, no. Thanks for coming to Hot Mess. This was so fun. Thank you for having me. Little hangout. Yeah. Girls night. Cheers. I love it. Cheers to more success, more love.

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First, hey, Al, I'm about to finish junior year of high school and I just transferred schools last year and I still haven't been invited to any parties at this new school. I really want to be invited to them and make new friends at school. What would you do? Please help me. I mean, transferring schools is something I...

never dealt with personally I actually almost transferred in middle school and then I also thought that after my freshman year at Miami when I got dropped from every sorority I was like I'm transferring I'm out of here but I would say a big part of that is just being open to the change and meeting new people because I've had friends that have transferred into school and I don't know it's just like

Putting yourself out there, not being afraid to make friends, say hi to people. You're in high school, like everyone's still at that age where they're figuring out who they are. And if you want to go to parties and have fun, introduce yourself to people in class. I always say the best way to like get in contact with someone is like you have a class project going on or something. You're like...

starting texting get a group chat going get their number and then talk and say like oh my gosh do you guys want to do something what's going on on the weekends and I feel like the more you talk to people you you'll figure out who like the party throwers are in high school who has the cool parents that are gonna let them have basement parties or their parents are going out of town and they're throwing a party so I feel like just meeting as many people as possible and I think I

I don't know being the new girl is exciting. Like I don't think that's something to be scared of I think you should be confident in that and I think that's fun Like everyone's probably sick of each other at this point in junior year of high school So go in there your fresh new face go make friends and just have fun with it. Don't stress it too much Hey alex, I drunkenly made out with my guy friend. Uh-oh, and now he's been hinting. He wants something more He's low-key attractive, but honestly his personality isn't all there. Should I give him a chance?

um no because I feel like if the personality isn't all there giving him a chance isn't gonna go any further than hooking up with each other if the personality's not there you're not really gonna get that far so maybe just keep it at that that's always hard though when you like cross that boundary with a guy friend it's a tricky situation um but I feel like

you can revert, you can go back from it and just be like, oops, whoops, or if you want to do it again, do it again, but I feel like giving him a chance in terms of dating is different than giving him a chance in terms of, like, getting with him, so I don't know, I feel like if the personality's not there, then don't, like, I don't know, sometimes I feel like girls just, like,

force themselves into liking someone and I don't know just because sometimes it's like the only option and they like kind of try to like fit the mold of this person they're like oh no actually it's not that bad and you like make excuses but listen go with your gut if it's not all there don't go for it like that but you can always have fun my boyfriend broke up with me to go study abroad this summer in Europe I still love him and miss him and our relationship should I wait for him to come back or completely forget about him what would Alex do

completely forget about him. Are you kidding me? He broke up with you to go be a hoe in Europe for the summer. I'm sorry. I'm kidding. But I mean, that is hard when you're going abroad. And I feel like when you guys always ask, like, if you should break up with your boyfriends going abroad, it's usually like I feel like if you just start dating someone, it's probably not the best time if you're going to be like doing long distance for the beginning part of the relationship. But I mean, if he broke up with you, I would not sit and wait around for him.

That's not to say that you guys can never get back together, but I also think having that mindset's never going to be healthy. Like, if it happens, it happens, but if you sit around and you're like, oh, but we may get back together, you're just going to, like, restrict yourself from meeting other people and, like, being able to move on and be happy because you're just going to, like, keep mourning this, the loss, the loss of this boyfriend. But let him go. Let him go to Europe.

Have your hot girl summer and forget about him. Wait, this one's funny. If you're getting your nails done and they look absolutely horrible, what would you do? Smile and tell the nail tech you love them or say something to the nail tech. I'm the worst with this, with literally everything. I can, I have such a problem. I cannot say I don't like something. It's like if I get my hair and makeup done, if I'm like picking out an outfit from somewhere, I'm shopping and someone like helps me pick out an outfit and like I don't like it. I'm literally like,

I love it. You're right. I will buy this. I'm the person that sits there and I don't say anything. And recently I will. So I've gotten better with like trying to like make a comment or two. But I feel like if they don't get it after you're like, oh, wait, maybe this isn't the shape or like, could we try a different color? If they don't get it, I will just like shut up and then go home and cry about it and complain about it for the next like two weeks until I get my nails done again. But I don't, it's so awkward because it's like, I feel so terrible. Like I feel like I'm delivering like the worst news of my entire life because it's like,

it's their work of art and you're like I don't like this but I it is horrible and I There's nothing worse than getting your nails done and sitting there and you're like i'm about to pay A hundred dollars for these nails right now and i'm sweating and i'm crying and I don't like them and you're trying to tell them You don't like them and they don't understand Everyone's always like oh you can be honest with me or tell me if you don't like it and i'm like that just like sounds so Rude and horrible and i'm i'm really not good with sticking up for myself like that So personally I would sit there and then cry about it later

Hi, Alex. Can you talk about work-life balance? I work all the time and I'm exhausted. How do you have the energy to go out? This is something that I feel like I've been really good at dealing with, which first of all, I will say going to the University of Miami, this is something I learned very quickly. It was like you can work hard, play hard, I guess. Like there was so much schoolwork going on all the time and it was very rigorous. Like

educational environment, but at the same time, we're also in Miami and there's a party every single night. So, I kind of had to figure out like prioritizing when I had to work and then when I could go out. I feel like the way I think of it is obviously work always comes first and I don't know, there's certain times it's like if you're exhausted from work, then let yourself sleep. Like you don't need to go out, but if you're also wanting to go out and you're just tired from work, I think, I don't know, there's moments where I kind of let myself

live. I'm like, I'm 23 years old and this is what I'm doing right now. I want to go out. So I kind of just pick and choose on different stuff. But I will say like even last night, I went out to a party. I was there until like 3 a.m., but I had to get up at 7 a.m. for a panel today and I was speaking at 930. So I just went out to like socialize and do something because I'm in Cannes and I wanted to go out, but I just didn't drink. I was having some Diet Cokes at the bar, which

you guys may be shocked at, but I can actually go out without drinking and have a good time. But if you're tired and exhausted or you have something to do the next day, then I don't know, maybe you don't have to drink, but maybe you have one drink or two. And then, I don't know, hang out with the girls, have a good time. But it sounds like you're having trouble...

letting yourself just like let loose and I have that problem too at times like I the second that I hit the pillow at night I start thinking about like everything in my life my three-year plan my five-year plan I'm like what's going on what am I doing tomorrow what's my calendar what's my schedule and I just start overthinking everything and Braxton always says this to me a lot he's like Alex you need to just like let yourself sleep right now like this isn't the time to overthink your entire life and start planning out everything you want to do for work and I'm like I don't know

why that happens when I hit the pillow and we lay down and in one second he's sleeping and I was like I wish my mind was that carefree when I went to bed but those are moments that I've had to just be like okay we have to just like let it go like we cannot harp on this right now we're not figuring anything out while I'm trying to go to bed so that for me has been a new challenge that I've been trying to deal with let yourself live and I think it's just all about balance it is

all about balance you don't need to go out every single night and then be crazy and not get any work done but you can also get work done and let yourself live while you're young or old or whatever you are I think I need sleep honestly

Do I sound terrible? No, you sound good. Braxton's telling me I sound terrible right now. Stop it, you sound good. Oh, you know what? I have to get changed to go to a meeting. I'm meeting the CEO of TikTok, which I feel like is really, really cool. And I'm going to be like, please don't let TikTok get banned.

I don't know what I'll do with my time then. But thank you guys for listening to another episode of Hot Mess with Alex Earl. I love you all. Don't forget to like, subscribe, follow. I will see you guys next Thursday. Bye.