#2680 RHOBH S1406: The Ends Don’t Justify The Memes
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Hello and welcome to Watch Watch Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today, Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Well, hello, Benunes. What's going on, baby? The whole city's on fire. You doing okay over there? Yeah, it's wonderful.

Wild. It's really scary. You know, if you watched yesterday's episodes that we put up, Southern Hospitality and Below Deck Med, you can probably see on the video there were a few times when we were recording where I whipped my head to the right and looked out my window because the wind has been blowing furiously through the city. And it's really scary. And obviously it has fueled these horrific events.

forest fires or just fires, wildfires. The sky is orange and black. The city is on edge. It's really, really, really scary. I'm just, you know, I feel so terrible for all the people and animals and pets and everyone who's been displaced and lost their homes and their businesses. It's really terrible. I am...

I'm really happy that your place is okay. But gosh, it was really surreal watching this episode of Beverly Hills last night. Like watching...

It opens up with bows sitting on the beach and looks like Malibu or somewhere but like while watching that while simultaneously on the news That beach is on fire or like that highway there the street the houses. They were on fire It was really really surreal But you know and I also hope that like, you know with our cast members on this show are okay and everything I mean as well as everyone else just cuz they're you know, they're still humans

But it's wild. It's really, really scary. I hope people are listeners who are impacted by it. I hope that they're okay, too. I mean, honestly, this severe weather is this extreme weather is a real problem. You know, it's wildfires today. It's flooding in North Carolina a few months ago.

like it's it's an issue in texas going to texas too texas freezing over states this is this i got both the states going through going through the drums what the what the extreme weather is a problem and for people who are like who are like looking the other way or who are just like oh whatever like you have to look at the signs they're there i mean you know be biblical about it and

You know, see what's happening. Okay. So thanks. I've got enough of that around me. Jesus Christ. The last thing I'm going to do is get biblical on this shit. The point is this more over there. Let's let's let's like, let's not dismantle the EPA. How about that? Because things are fucked. Things are really, really fucked and people are losing their lives and their homes. And you know, we have to pay attention to this shit. Well, yeah, it's really scary. I hope everybody's taking care of themselves over there. We're sending you our love.

and our friends you know love you know because it's you see you see stuff like this pretty much all the time in the news it seems like um just tragedy after tragedy but um you know when it's in your city it's like god damn it's like up close you know but it's going on all over the world constantly now and it's kind of like of just time in general well anyway welcome 20 25. so we're gonna do what we do best um

in both here and our personal lives, which is just laugh at things because that's how I cope. Okay. Yeah. Luckily it was a great episode of Beverly Hills. Yeah. Uh, so we're here doing that. Please come, um,

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Watch what crap happens on Instagram. Yeah. So let's get into a little Beverly Hills action. What do you think there, man? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. It's a big feisty episode. So we are seeing things around the city and then some. We're at Garcelle's house and Garcelle is like marveling that her son, Jay. But herself. She's marveling at herself.

It's another Garcelle. When I started this, it was only me. I've got a beach house. It was a very, very Garcelle proud episode, but she should be. She has a lot of stuff to be proud of. And she's sitting there with her gorgeous child looking at his modeling pictures. And she's like, look at you, a model. And he's like, yeah.

Yeah. She's like, you know, when I started, there was Iman, there's Beverly Johnson and Naomi Campbell. And he's like, I don't know these people. I was like, OK, you know what, sir? You can leave the room now. You can leave. OK, get out of here. You don't know Naomi Campbell. And you're she's she's an active model. I mean, I think they all are. But she's still like modeling a lot. So that's like a young person going into the tire changing and oil change business and being like, I don't know who Pet Boy is.

How dare you? Yeah. Make an effort. Okay. Learn things. Learn from your history. Model history is very important. I mean, to some people, just like every other kind of history. Damn it. Learn your history, sir. Please do. And then we go to Dorit's house where Dorit. But notice that she didn't say UBA. I'm just pointing that out because in our next recap of New York, that's going to come up. Yeah. Yeah. They wish.

Iman, Naomi, they wish. So yeah, she didn't mention Uba either, so she's gonna be in some trouble. So then we go to Dorit's house and Jagger is there. She's watching Jagger. She's with Jagger watching Phoenix and Phoenix is doing a little ballet performance. And Jagger's like, if I tried spinning like that, I would be throwing up right now. Better try sleeping with your father. Oh, sorry, I'm just in a raw state right now.

Have you ever seen your father tried on bathing suits? Now that's a real bath worthy event. Geez. Um, well, Phoenix is her pirouettes are great. I mean, she's just spinning and spinning and spinning and spinning and spinning. And it's really great. So I can't like a little barista cough. Get the fuck out of here. All right. You have me for two seconds. Goddamn ingrates on this show. Uneducated people, uneducated, uneducated youths.

So then we go to Sutton's house and Sutton's like, hey, Ovs, can you come help me? This closet needs a lot of help. And he just like arrives around the corner very seriously. And I think it's like, there's like a lightning strike. She's like, wow, you're like a character out of a scary movie. How'd you get here so fast? He's like, I was around the corner.

By the way, you also are like a character from a scary movie. Yes. And that's all. Let's just get along. We're sisters. Fuck you. I'm going to kill you in your sleep. It's like, whoa, Satan, reel it in, lady. So then we go to the Malibu Pier and it's a Bose scene. We don't get many of those. So this is a Bose scene and she's on a date.

And I'm extremely stressed out by this date because she's on a date with a guy who's also like very successful and driven. And they talk like very successful, driven people. And they're very goal oriented. And they're like, what's our goals? That's terrifying. My goal is to get through the fucking day. Okay. My goal is not to die of blood, high blood pressure or eat a tub of ice cream out of some misery. I haven't gotten over from kindergarten. Okay. That's what, that's what I'm dealing with, sir. Can we not talk about our, our trust?

And our, you know, our goals. My goal is just to live. Yeah. Thank you. So that's a good goal. So then they. Thank you. Thank you for the valley. Yeah. Your feelings are valid, Ronnie. So. Thank you. So then they go, they sit at this like beach set up. And Boaz is saying that they've been dating for several months. Yeah.

And they're popping open some champagne and there's some charcuterie and there's roses. And she's like, he is thoughtful and kind and romantic. I like the weight of him. Like he's a man, a man, a man. I invented man, by the way. People think it was Adam invented Eve. No, I invented Adam. I've copyrighted man. He's a man. Yeah, she's very...

I started feeling offended, which I don't know why. I think that says something about my own masculinity insecurity. But when she's like, he's a man, a man-man, you know what I mean? A man, a man, hell, a man. I was like, I guess I don't think anyone's ever said that. I don't think anyone's ever been like, wow, I went on a date with Ronnie. What a man. You know, a man. Now, people have been like, I've been on a date with Ronnie.

He's really terrified of dying of blood pressure diseases by the end of the day. It's super weird. Yeah. Yeah. But he paid for dinner. That's a, you know, you were a man, a man, man in that moment. Yeah. I'm a Chipotle date, but still.

So, Boza's saying that Killy and I are in a long distance relationship. He lives in San Diego and I live in Los Angeles. And then he pops up with some champagne and she's like, "So we have to spice things up by talking every single day, multiple times a day, specifically about spicy things." I'll call him up and I'll say, "Jalapeno." And he'll say, "Serrano." And I'll say, "Goodbye." And then five minutes later, I'll say, "Ghost pepper." And he'll say, "Carolina Reaper." And I'll say, "Goodbye. Keep it spicy."

So he's like, so to another date together and to our business endeavors. Shut up. I want a business endeavor. And she's like, mm-hmm. And he's like, that's one thing I really love about our dynamic. It goes beyond the looks, you know? It goes into jalapeno peppers as well. And she's like, oh, you know, but the looks are looking, you know? Looks are important. What do you think about that? Looks may not be everything, but looks are here, baby. Looks are here.

He's like, yeah, yeah. Well, now here's a question. One of the things I want to make sure of is that we stay aligned. What would you like from a relationship? Oh, gosh, it's a hard question, you know? I mean, let me think. Like an Anaheim chili pepper? Not that spicy. So maybe not that. So she tells us that her relationship should have kept her from every other relationship. And then we see her clip of telling the girls about her relationship. That it was, oh, I guess she was just telling Erica that.

But she was like, well, in my last relationship, I was completely lied to. I said, are you cheating on me? And he said, yes. Liar. They're like, how dare he tell you? I was like, well, he was honest. I mean, I guess the cheating wasn't honest, but he did. He didn't lie to you about the cheating. So he's at least got a 50% scorecard going on. Do you have his number?

You know, I mean, it was a disaster. Liar, cheater, name it, he got it. So she says, remember on our first- Serrano pepper. No, he didn't have that. He did not have that. All right, name something else. Let's keep playing. He had a red bell pepper, which was the exact opposite of what I wanted.

So remember Keeley on our first call when you said to me you didn't want any pretense? If you want to call me, call me. I appreciated that. You wanted a level of honesty that I didn't feel that other people would necessarily say out loud. And he's like, and vice versa, babe. And if I knew something wasn't going to work, I have no problem being a friend. And that's it. And just keep it moving.

So we find out that she really likes his consistency, but the biggest detail that we find out is that she likes details, you know, because he'll be like, I'm at the gym and she's like, ah, he's doing some reps. That's what I love to hear. Reps give me all the information. And that's what she likes. She just likes taking in data. Yeah, she does. I mean, she is from corporate America and then data's really big over there. So, um,

You know, then they start talking about like marriage because she's like saying, are you do you ever consider that you are dating for marriage? And he's like, yeah, that's the only reason why I date, you know, and she's so they're just talking about that sort of stuff. Then he gives her a raspberry and she's like, was that to shut me up because it was not a spicy raspberry. And he's like, no, it just looked like you wanted a raspberry. You had kind of a raspberry forward look on your face at that moment. Yeah.

And she said, well, where are we in the process of marriage anyway? And he's like, I knew you were going to ask that. I felt that question. That question came right out of our thoughts and into my head. It's me and you. So that's where we are. Okay. I don't trust him there. I said it. I don't trust him. He's too smooth talking. And that came out of your head and into my brain. I don't trust it. Yeah. It is a little Svengali ish, huh?

So, yeah, but it's also kind of L.A., though. But he's from San Diego. So I don't know, because that's our other thing is that they're long distance because he's from San Diego and she's from L.A. So I don't know. That sounds great to me. Like every other weekend, kind of a guy. Sounds sounds like heaven to me. But yeah.

I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. TBD on him. I also thought he was like a little cheesy, but who knows? Who knows? I mean, the thing is this. It's not such a wild prediction that these... I think almost every single guy who's come on to these shows to romance a lady has wound up being scum. So, you know...

That's probably like- - Yeah, I'm not gonna go as far as scum. Like I'm not getting scum, but I'm getting very, you know, no one talks like that in their everyday life. So you have to like, with people who talk like that, you have to like tire them out like a little kid with a lot of energy running around the room screaming. You're not gonna get anything done until you tire them out. You know what I mean? And I feel like you have to tire out that kind of talking until you see the real person underneath. So you've just gotta be like, what are your thoughts on the economy? And just let them be like, well,

As long as I've got you, a dollar is still a dollar. Ding! Until he's just exhausted. You know, just like give him reasons to spout platitudes from pop psychology until he's tired. And then we'll see what he's really like. Yeah, we need him to unmask. So, PVD. Excuse me. So then we go over to the Pally house and Dorit steps out of her SUV. And then...

She arrives and then Erica arrives after her. And Erica's like, well, is it just me or do I feel like I'm in a lounge? Like, why do I feel this way? And she's like, I know it does. Dorit has no idea what Erica's talking about. It totally feels like a lounge, even though it's clearly a restaurant. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Mm-mm.

So she's like, thank God for Erica and thank God for my parents because I felt like I didn't know how much longer I could hold on the walls up on my own and they came to my rescue. And we see a clip of her parents coming to town to take care of Steph. And she's like, listen, Erica, today was the day.

a Phoenix's ballet show. She was the lead, the lead. So I threw a pie in her face. - So what happens to leads in these shows? As you know, it's my stint in Peter Pan in London. - That's pretty amazing. - And so then the server comes over and Dorit does the classic. I'll do a Belvedere, club soda, short glass, three lemons squeezed in really well. And let's be wild, carcass in.

Ella's whole cup salad. In the drink, please. I'm a new woman now. Leave the carcass in.

So, um, the caucus PK, I'm sorry, but that too tall and the server is like, Hey, good choice. Fuck off. I don't need your approval. Get my three lemons. Right now. Does she mean three whole lemons? I've never asked you this. Cause that's a lot of lemons. I think she just means wedges. Uh, she should articulate that though, because three old lemons, you have a different cocktail at that point. That point you're just having lemon. You like a lemon, a lemon Belvedere.

Yeah, I put a whole lemon in my tahini dressing last week and it was disgusting. It was way too much lemon. So I'm like, she must mean wedges. But then wedges are all different sizes depending on where you go. So make the math make sense. Specificity. You know, data. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

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So then Erica's, they toast to Phoenix's ballet and Dorit's like, so when it comes to the kids, I told you this a million times. And even though I'm so hurt and angry, I can literally compartmentalize my feelings for my children. And Erica goes, well, for the moment, you took the words right out of my mouth. Yeah.

I love Erika. I love Erika sitting here trying to be positive, but if you really listen to everything out of her mouth, it's not really positive. She's like, "Oh, I can cop, compartmentalize." "For the moment, yeah!" Which means, "Oh yeah? Wait till you're locked outside your house just trying to get back in to get a 30-year-old rug out of the bathroom, bitch."

But I also like all she says is for the moment, you took the words right out of my mouth. Well, Monday, we're supposed to meet in C-Roppy. And it's the first Roppy we'll have together. Oh, because you haven't been talking, right? Except to Kyle Richards who talks to him. Oops, did I say that part out loud? Sorry.

I don't want to be spoken to in a certain way. That's it. Can I take your lunch orders? Fuck off, how dare you? Carcass out, after all. So Dorit says, when I talk about PK and I getting toxic, he would speak to me in a very aggressive, disrespectful way. And I would do the same, but in a different accent. One time the fight got so bad that I just kept saying bathroom in different languages. Banos!

Bidet? Bathroom! That's how you say it in Paris. Bathroomama? I don't know what language that's from, but I think it's somewhere vaguely near Tajikistan.

So we see Piquet and her having dinner, and this is when he said, "If the server came over and we spoke to the server how we speak to each other, we'd be thrown out of this restaurant, and I'd be grabbing this side of chips with me, and they couldn't let me lose grasp of it no matter how hard they tried. I wish you'd try that hard for our marriage, Piquet!" "Our marriage has never been this delicious. Could you please pass the hollandaise?"

I don't want to live like that anymore. So she says, I'm not at a place yet where I know I am totally done with him. No, and you don't have to be as long as he is sober because what were you saying about him? He's a raging alcoholic. Yes. 100% raging, all in alcoholic. All in. He's so into being an alcoholic, he went to an AA meeting. He took all the chips from the other people and ate them with some cream cheese. Yes.

Awful day. He's such an alcoholic that he... He's just an alcoholic. I don't really have an end to that. The worm from the bottom of the tequila bottle tried to drink him. He's such an alcoholic that Sky Vodka's like, we should call you Space Vodka because you're higher up than us. I'm not very good at this, Erica. I'm not very good at this. Why? Why? Why?

So Erica's like, yeah, you don't have to, but listen, as long as he's sober, you gotta be nice to him. Have you seen us on television? That's just how it is. If someone says they're sober, you gotta be nice to them. It's called the victim cloak. All right, Ronnie came up with the term. Give him credit. Trademark it. All right.

He's wearing it right now. So you can't slam the door on his face with a sober person. So listen, if you really need to get him out of there, just put a little pill or something in his next orange juice. He'll be not sober and you can treat him however you want to.

By the way, speaking of really intense moments, I mean, last night, oh yeah, you were on fire last night. You dropped that C word. And we get a flashback to like, what feels like 10 weeks ago on this show, because it was off for three weeks, of Dorit yelling at Camille, you are a total cut fitness to me and you know why. And then Camille's like, oh yeah, well, you call me a fucking cut fitness the first night I bought my, um,

I forget what I bought. Mauricio, can you help me out? I called you a stupid cut fitness, not a fucking cut fitness. And Garcelle's, damn. Wow. Which is an upgrade from her wow. Yeah. Oh, God, it was so good, you saying the C word. Well, I have been too forgiving for too long, and I allowed people to mistake my kindness for weakness. Oh, I just think they've mistaken your kindness for stupidity, but that's okay. And when were you kind again?

"Oh, well, it's better than having to mistake your money for strength or whatever else they've been doing this past 20 years." And Doreen's like, "Well, that's it. What Sutton said." And Erica goes like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Hell no. That girl's not even sober. You don't have to be nice to her. Get her, Doreen. Drag her, Doreen." And then we see a flashback to Sutton saying, "Listen, you are angry and you are not angry at me. You are angry at your life."

Which, by the way, I actually it's it's harsh, but I think that Sutton's right. And that creates that that makes Garcelle go, oh, so she big night for me. I said, I'm sorry, everybody. I leave my wow in the trunk. So I've just got to. Oh, does anyone have anything incredulous to say? Because I would love to let out a what? What? No. No.

No, no. Well, she revealed exactly how far she would go, which is making a kind of hurtful statement, maybe. And Dorit's like, it's just so opposite to, what is it? Sisterhood. It's opposite to the sisterhood. It's opposite to the sisterhood. Sisterhood. Sisterhood. Sisterhood. Sisterhood. Banyo. Bathroom. Bathroom. Bathroom.

Listen, it's all about openness. You don't kick a girl when they're down, you know? And Erica says... Unless that Lisa Vanderpump, that shit was funny. I'm into these Richards. You know, look, Sutton has misreaded myself at the lowest time in my life. She then moved on to Kyle, and now she's kicking Dorit at the lowest point in her life. It's bullshit. I'm like, but also...

Very funny. It's great for us. I don't disagree with Erica here. I think that Sutton is horrible to people at the worst times in their lives. But guess who else was the worst to you at the lowest time in your life? Literally everybody on the show put you on the stand and questioned you nonstop.

and suggested you give back that ring or everything else that you're mad at Sutton about. Everybody else did too. Why are you only mad at Sutton? Mommy issues. Well, also you have this, you have this inner core of cast members on this show that love to preach about be open and honest. Say how you feel. Stop like dancing around, like dancing around the bush or whatever, beating around the bush, you know, be honest. And then Sutton's like, all right, I'll be honest.

This is how I feel about you right now. And they're like, how could you say that? I'm at the worst part. I am at the going through the worst time of my life and you're going to be so unkind to me. So it's like, well, what do you want? Do you want open and honesty or do you want just more of the Beverly Hills bullshit? And also, since when can you only be nice to people or who? Since when can you only criticize people who are happy? I don't think that's how it works.

There was a comment that was like, Ronnie, you're projecting your mommy issues onto Erica. She doesn't have mommy issues. No, no. I'm very well aware of my mommy issues. My mommy issues are in a completely separate theater. Okay. My having mommy issues doesn't mean that other people don't have mommy issues. Okay. You can still go to the other theater and watch mine if you want. They're out there. They're playing. They've been playing on here for fucking 13 years. Go on. Watch them if you want to. I still stand by it. So thank you. I still thrives for kids.

No, I'm going to back you up. I think that Erica definitely has mommy issues. I think that and that's a little older Southern woman who's always on Erica's ass. You know, that's definitely what sudden is to Erica. Also, by the way, is it better to is it better to kick someone when they're at the lowest point of their life or is it better to kick someone when they're riding high? I mean, I guess you shouldn't kick anyone anytime.

But I think if I'm writing, oh, please, if you're down, you're already down. We're watching kickboxing. We're watching emotional kickboxing. Okay. Like you can't, but that's why Erica's standing up for these rules. Like you can't kick someone when they're accused of stealing diamond earrings. It should be there. So the first place, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What were we talking about? Well, I mean, also everything that Erica is saying is just, it's just a not so subtle way of saying like, I'm

I still want an apology from all you bitches for what you put me through. I mean, we saw her literally talking to her therapist about it. She wants her pizza party. So everything that fuels already, man, she's just building her case. I give Erica a lot of shit on this show, but I have to say, I would love to have a pizza party for Erica.

Erica. We can do it. We'll have a pizza party. Yeah, I would totally do it. I would do it. So, because she's just brought me so much pleasure, you know? And in times like these where you're watching things burn and people struggle and stuff, you have to remember, like, these people do a lot of good in our lives. You know what I mean? Like, it's fun to rag on them and call them out when they're wrong. But, you know, sometimes I'm even grateful for Erica. Yeah.

Well, you know, she did have a really good season last year. And she seems to be doing pretty well this year. So good for her. So Dorit's just saying this has been going on for a year. Like with Sutton, it's been going on forever. Now we have Garcelle.

And she drives her kids. She's got Oliver. She's got OJ Jr. She's got Jade and his girlfriend, Ash. And they go off to her beach house in Oxnard. And we get a bonus tour of the house because it just was not enough last time. I was going to say, finally, we're getting a glamorous tour of this beautiful home like they've never done it before. Absolutely.

for it's the third episode you guys we've done this and it's still gorgeous and it's so glamorous Oliver's like I remember when this was just dirt I'm like yeah it was like 18 months ago congratulations 1923 house that is a beautiful house and I love the cabinet colors I just love that house it's really really well done and they've taken that farmhouse thing which you know I'm over that even though I live in it

But I hate that shit now. But she did it in such a nice, tasteful, updated way. Love the house. But still, we've already seen it. So move on. So let's talk about... She's like, guys, can you believe I got a beach house? I worked for this. And they're like, oh my God, that's amazing. Which it is. But talk about something else now. Well, so she talks about Oliver. And so as they're eating lunch and everything, and Oliver is feeding food to his kid, doing the whole, like, here comes the airplane, and...

They're like, oh God, I love the airplane game. So Garcelle talks about... People wonder why airplanes crash. Because they're made out of macaroni and cheese. So Garcelle winds up talking about Oliver and how far he's come. And it was a really dark place. And she talks about how he's dealt with addiction. And she tells a very sad story about one time he showed up in her backyard and...

He was homeless, but his like, it was Oliver, but it was not Oliver. He was erratic. He was high and he was trying to get into the pool house and she was yelling at him to like get away from the pool house. And she basically wouldn't let him inside because she treated him with tough love and she just like carried so much guilt from that experience. And so she's like, you know, she's like really angry.

She feels really lucky, as she should feel lucky and grateful that Oliver, you know, got through it. She should, because it does not always end that well. You know what I mean? And so to see him doing so well is nice. You know, it's like a touching scene. But then that kind of is ruined when she's like, you know, he was going through a rough time, but then he's OK. Then he became OK and named his child OJ. I was like, I'm not going to be OK with that.

You're still not gonna, there's no time that I'm gonna be okay with that name choice. Like even if like back in the day it was fine, it's not, just change it. Oliver, Oliver. - How about like O2, like Oliver the second, maybe not OJ. - Oliver too, yeah. Oliver James, you know?

So it's actually a really nice scene. I'm just being a bitch because that's what I do, but it's a nice scene. And then they pray and then we go over to Dorit's house and we see pictures of Dorit and Piquet when they were in love. When Dorit did some boudoir shots and dressed like a package of sour cream and onion leaves.

So she's washing fruit and she's like, Mommy, the peaches that you got are oh so yummy. What artisanal farm stand did you find here in Los Angeles that sold such delicious peaches? She's like, Costco. Oh, what is that? Oh, Costco. PK calls that the Pringles machine place. Okay, got it. Pringles in bulk. I've never seen them get such a big erection. Do you mean the hot dog yum yum factory? So Bo shows up.

And they go out to the back and Dorit is like, they sit out there and Bose is talking about how she's like, I love Dorit. Dorit is fashionable. She is bubbly. She's like a nice Thai chili. She gives a lot of detail in her stories though. A lot. But I'd like to, Dorit likes to talk and I like to listen.

- Yeah, that sounds like a perfect friendship to me. You know, you gotta find your lid, you know? That's my lid, just listen. Actually my lid in real life is for them to talk more. I think I'm more like Bose in real life. - Maybe that's why you talk more on here.

If you're listening. Yeah, I talk a lot on here, but then in real life, I'm like, entertain me, please. So that's why I'm friends with super dramatic people who always have some kind of drama going on. You know, it's like turning on a TV. That's our rule as like sweet little gay boys is to listen and create a nice environment. And then what we really want to say, we go onto a podcast and then we really unleash there.

Yeah. God, this gay passive aggression is the most fabulous passive aggression. It's the best guy in all of the world. Best brand. I'm proud to be an owner of it. Yes. So, yeah, Bose comes and the dogs are barking and she's like, weenie, pumpkin. Yeah.

I just love the names of those dogs. Winnie the sad dog and Pumpkin is going to get eaten one day, you know? So she gets to meet the parents, Rachel and Shalom. And she's like, what a pleasure. What a pleasure to meet you. What'd you do today? Details, details. Rice cups for breakfast. Anybody? Give me an answer. I hope we've had a nice day. All right. You're dead to me. Get out. I need more details from those people. They're tired. We went to Costco. Okay. That's more like it.

What'd you find there? Did you get any socks? We did. All right. Kirkland, right? Yes. Oh, good. More details. More details. There was a backup in aisle four. Oh, goodness. What kind of box did you pile your groceries in? One of the weird apple juice boxes things that only held three things? Or one of those tall egg boxes? Come on. Tell me every single detail. I made a toot by the chicken stand. All right. You're officially my mother now. I'm taking your parents. Details one.

So they go up back and Dorit's like, if I look back, it's to make sure the doors are closed. And I was like, oh, wow, that PTSD is really, it really is haunting her. She goes, because, you know, I haven't told my children about the situation. I'm like, oh, okay. So she's like, Bose is like, girl, we got to talk about all of that. She goes, well, you know, PK and I, we had a four.

four-hour therapy session on Monday. I mean, most of it was him trying to park the car and then scouring the office building for a vending machine and after three hours he did somehow come in with a Mars bar but, you know, that still counts as a four-hour therapy session in my book. And he came in very much like Kuman in Tibiddle. So, so much so, in therapy he throws out, "This is why I want a divorce and I don't want to be married to this woman!"

That's the first time I've heard it! Oh my god, how did we get here? Yes, exactly! No, I'm trying to remember, how did I actually drive to your house? Was it the 101 or was it the 405? I just need all these details! It was hard to see because the maps, for some reason, when I was driving, it was showing me pointed in the opposite direction. Does anybody know how to fix that?

what's even the point of that mode? So Dorit's like, I just feel blindsided. Boom! There's a bomb. A bomb that blindsided me. I was walking and there it was. A bomb. A bomb that, well, actually, it wasn't so much a blindside because we'd already separated and we were on the path to divorce. So it was more like I saw the bomb and I stepped on it and I was like, oh, a bomb. But either way, we were so amicable a few weeks ago when he said he didn't want to talk to me anymore. The whiplash is just so hard to take.

So this is the first time she's heard it, which I have a hard time believing seeing them. Like we just saw a flashback of them back at lunch, you know. But she said that PK stormed out of the office, slammed the door, and she walked out of that therapy session and she thought, oh no, I need to start preparing. So now she's like,

Now I need to plan like I'm going to battle against this fuck. Yeah, which I was like, yes Dorit. Thank God It's so good to hear that, you know, because I think oftentimes it's like you have to cry first You have to like get that whole like six months of crying out of the way and then you're ready to go to battle And Dorit's like no fuck this both We're going to battle and I believe PK is gonna be crafty and he's gonna be vicious So she does have to get all her ducks in a row

Well, in this, I don't think it's money. I don't think there's money there. I think the only money coming in probably, like he'll, he gets a pit. I mean, how much is George board George making right now? You know, so that's 15%. And then Dorit's got Beverly Hills, which she's been on for a long time. So I'm sure that's a good paycheck. So she's the one with the money. So yeah, he's yeah. That's right now. It's like, yeah. Yeah. He, it's not even just the money. A lot of times it's honestly just a power play. I think that like,

- I don't know, I wouldn't trust PK for one second and she needs to lawyer up. Lawyer up. - Yes, agreed. So she's like, "Wow, what a story. "So you know what we should talk about? "You and Kyle." I was very shocked with the interaction you had with Camille. And she's like, "Oh, well that's been a long time coming, me love."

Girl, this was a lot. And we see a flashback to that. And Camille saying, they have to wait for hours for you to show up at events. For two hours because you're not coming to the events. Because instead of coming to the events, you're taking photo shoots. Photo shoots. I think they're trying to say that you put them on hold. You put them on hold. It's so upsetting. And Tariq goes,

She goes, "Your friends, people, your other DDs. I have my DD, you have your DDs, you make all your DDs wait." And I like that she's like, "What are you even doing here, Camille?" "You have your friends on hold." "Do you need a moment? Do you need a moment, Camille?" Which is good seeing her hand Camille her ass. We'll see you next season, Camille. I know. You just keep getting tries, girl. You just keep coming back.

So Bose is like, well, I'm not sure why Kyle invited Camille to the party. Why was she there? And it's like, not the first time, me love. Not the first. Which is so true. And it's so good to see Bose be able to clock that in two seconds. Something that most of the audience and definitely this cast has not been able to clock in how many years is this? 12?

14 years is how Kyle's sneaky ass does stuff like this. Like, I hate Camille. Don't ever speak to Camille unless I need Camille to yell at somebody that I don't like right now. Yeah, that's exactly. Because Camille has been dirty to Kyle, too. And Kyle's like, that's enough, Camille. Or she'll pretend like she hates Camille. And then she always invites Camille when she needs Camille to humiliate someone for her. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

So Dorita's like, yes, well, not only did she invite Camille, but she deliberately didn't tell me she was going to be there. And Boze is like, oh, no. So, you know, there's a lot of things in the past I kept my mouth closed about. A lot of things that bothered me. It's those things that have brought me here to where I am. It's what little chaps, little, little chaps. That's why I'm fed up.

And so Bo says, it really hurt my feelings when she said to you that I don't remember what I'm paraphrasing. You're angry. It's your life. That's what she said. Really? It's like, yes, yes, that.

And so Boza's like, these women just always find a minute to go at each other. They will always find an excuse. They're at a party, they'll find a reason to fight. It's almost like looking at something in the air. If they see it, they'll grab it out of the air and they'll say, stab you with it, you know? And she's like, oh my God, this is just disgusting. Did you watch this show? - Yeah. You're the one who comes from corporate America. This should be just like nothing for you.

So, Doreen's like, stick a knife in one, when someone's down, that's the kind of person Saturn is. And Bose is like, well, that's the hard part of friendship and being vulnerable, you know, because on one hand, if she says, hey, look, I'm here for you, I want to help you any way possible, then you open up and you're vulnerable and you tell her things and then she takes them and weaponizes them and stabs you in the back. That shit is terrible.

i feel like if sutton was doing that that would be terrible but i don't think sutton took something that dorit said and stabbed her in the back with it do you saying you're angry with your life isn't really it's just like what are you yelling at me at you're not yelling at me you're projecting yes exactly that's i mean that's a much that's a much friendlier way to say what sutton said but to reach just in a place where she is just going to get set off by everything

well and also Sutton's so bad at it you know like she's so bad she really doesn't and they call her out for this all this episode but Sutton's like sisterhood thing is such a because she's the one who's always having a fit and losing her temper and crying and running out of things so I mean I do see that Sutton's a huge hypocrite I mean I do say I will say that but I just think in this case I don't think what Sutton said is that bad but maybe it's because there are so many worse times

that we can compare this to with shit that's come out of Sutton's mouth that I'm like, that's nothing. What are you complaining about? At least it wasn't like when you were robbed and she was like, whatever, we all have problems. - Yeah, she's like my fashion designer's plane was late. - My fashion designer got stuck in France. - Yeah, so we now hear Trixie Monaco who's like, they thought they claw like animals, eat out your heart like cannibals. At one point I had my valuables and they never looked like me.

What? They can never look like me, she says. They're all so jealous. They fight. They glow like animals. They eat out your heart like cannibals. At one point, I had my valuables.

they can never look like me it's like wow cannibals and robbery wow a lot going on in one song did trixie sober up because trixie used to be two words and now trixie's coming in with monologues put to music yeah it's crazy but it's the perfect way it's not for everybody no it's the perfect way though to set up the return of my lawns blood here on bravo television

Martin Lawrence Ballard, who we know and love from Million Dollar Decorators, which was a wonderful show on Bravo that was gone too soon. So he has come over to Erica's house for a consult because she wants to turn this tiny little hobble

This shanty, this shack, into a sanctuary. This 1.8 million dollar shack. Please make it somehow livable. It's such a, it's like I'm every night, I'm just living in my, sleeping in my beautiful, beautiful down bed. It's in this, with my pool in my cabane.

She's like, here, come on in, Martin. I've made some porridge. It's all I can have here in this million-dollar house. Well, nice to see you, Erica. Nice to meet you, Martin. Pleasure. Wait, I'm sorry. It's Martin. Pleasure. She's like, oh, you look fabulous. Well, thank you. Well, come on inside. You don't look too bad yourself. Mm-hmm.

Martin Lawrence Blod, one of the top interior designers in the world, has agreed to meet with me and give me the shithole a little lift. Now, it was a little awkward at first because I thought I was reaching out to Martin Lawrence, the comedian, but hey, I'll take this guy too. I love the gays.

So, do you know Shanaynay? No, I'm not that modern. Does the phrase damn Gina mean anything to you? Are we talking about Gina Davis? Well, I have said damn Gina. I said, Gina Davis, stop peeing on the lawn that I've just had installed into your backyard. That's good enough for me.

So she goes, I must tell you, I am a fan of your work. And she talks about how he's done all these famous people's houses like Cher and Pink and Khloe Kardashian. And he's like, well, I brought you my book. Fabulous Gaze.

- Interiors. - It's like, oh my God, holy mother macaroni. Oh yeah, Cher, Pink Chloe, everybody has fabulous style goes to Martin Blonde. - And we see his style and it is good. I mean, it is good. - It is really good. - And there's been some questionable times of Martin over the years where I'm like, are you here, Martin? Are you even here? But God, the stuff we're seeing in these pictures. - It looks great. - Gorgeous, gorgeous stuff. - He's so good. So he's like, well, obviously a lady with good taste.

And she says, well, I think so. And you know what? I lost a lot of place, meaning I lost a lot. I lost a lot of my stuff. I lost my entire home. I lost my furniture. And what you see in front of you is literally what I was left with in the middle of the night. So I lost a lot. Okay. Well, I can't really see what's in front of me because I'm shielding my eyes from the depravity in front of me. It's awful. Going back to Robertson Boulevard.

So you lost your taste, eh? Was this before or after you filmed those hideous music videos on the YouTube? Yeah, my old home was absolutely beautiful. Everything was perfectly done, down to the T. This place I'm living in was my Hail Mary past, but it's time to start living again. You know, I was so depressed here in this perfectly reasonably sized three-bedroom house with a pool and a cabana.

I thought, how could I ever find the will to live? But I decided, you know what? I'm going to make it happen. It might be a tiny shoebox of a luxury home, but I'll make it happen. God damn it. I just love that she talks about this house like it's such a shithole. But she's like, but my place in Pasadena now, that was chic.

That was not chic. That looked like the inside of Liberace's asshole. What are you talking about? It was so stuck in, like, 1947. I mean, it was beautiful in its own way, but, like, especially given what her whole persona is. I mean, it never really made sense how she was like Erika Jayne and then she'd go home and be, like, prim and proper. So it's just funny that she's kind of, like, pining for the days of that mansion and its vibe. Yeah.

Yes. So, um, she's like, well, the point here is it's this chic little space needs to be freedom. It needs to be style. It needs to be sexiness. It needs to be a new beginning. It needs to be diamond earrings. They're not touching these things, you motherfuckers. Would you say it needs to be fresh and easy? God, R.A.P. My favorite grocery store.

One of the only places you can go in Los Angeles and get a bell pepper wrapped in plastic. Not spicy. Heaven. So he starts, he's like, well, first we have to, we're just going to cleanse the space a little bit. It smells of small and poor. So hold on one moment. So he starts spritzing, which I think is good that he's spritzing instead of burning sage.

Sorry, I'm trying to get rid of the dirty. I feel like I heard something, and this is totally unverified. I heard that because of so many, like, raised lily types that are smudging with sage that don't really know what they're doing, there's actually, like, a sage shortage. And that people who...

You know, sage smudging is basically appropriated from like indigenous ceremonies and people who actually use it with like any meaning basically are like they're actually have shortages of sage because of idiots. So if this is true, it could all be false, by the way. This I kind of just repeated something totally unverified. But if it's true, good for Martin Ballard.

for martin lawrence for blard for spritzing the air instead of saging it that's how you build this is for you indigenous now that that is our first step towards countering extreme weather this is our first step this is our first step to healing the world you guys

- So he puts some flowers on the table and he's like, "Oh no." He just walks up to a vase that's got flowers on a table and he goes, "This, we can't have stuff like this. You need beautiful things." - What? - It's a perfectly beautiful, fresh flower eraser. He's like, "Ew, disgusting. You're Erika Jayne. This isn't right." - I wasn't talking about the vase. I was talking about Erika. You'll have to leave the house now. - Please move that statue. - That's live. That's my assistant. - Disgusting. Go.

You know, I'm reminded how shitty my life was here in famed affluent neighborhood Hancock Park. No, no. God, it's been hard. Oh, by the way, here's the bathroom. Wow, did somebody have a burrito last night? P.U. Let's swap out this spritzer for some Lysol, am I right?

So she goes into the bedroom, which I think looks lovely. Yeah, it looks nice. And he's like, ooh, are we trying to catch a man? She's like, several. And he goes, well, we're not doing it in here.

This is the room that really should be your sexy sanctuary. Hello, hold on a minute. Ding dong, boner, are you there? Never again? Well, isn't that a tragedy? You've done this to me. How about we replace all these beautiful white linens and perfectly nice furnishings with insane patterns and various different depictions of elephants from India? Does that sound good to you? I think all the men will love it. Ha ha ha ha ha.

So it's like, well, yes, I've seen some of those sexy videos of yours. And then we see one of her, I'm a cat dress. And he's like, like that. You can really step all change, girl. And I emphasize the balls. Well, okay, let's go outside. Okay, here we have a cabana. I know it's embarrassing. Can we wrap this up? I'm about to head to the soup kitchen for lunch. He's like, oh, wow, look at this.

Okay, so you've got some turquoise tile on the floor. That's all right. Oh, here it is. Look. It's a pool and a perfectly nice sofa. Disgusting. It's very upsetting.

Was he saying that? He was, right? Something was... He was like, oh, drop it. I think he was complaining about the curtain, but the way that they did it, because he yanks open the curtain, and then he's like, ooh, let's get rid of that. I can't see that anymore. But they showed the pool and the yard, and he's just like, get rid of it, please. I can't see it. Scrim. I need to scrim here. Something. Please, I'm having the vapors. Someone take me back to Interior Illusions on Santa Monica Boulevard.

So... Very upsetting, but you've got turquoise on the floor. We could get turquoise paint. We could do a whole paint number and just stripe it and make it very Moroccan, you know?

You know, add big turquoise autopilos to this, and some big parish trays, and some lanterns, and I don't know, maybe we could just, like, hire someone from Morocco just to stand there. I don't know. Listen, you can fix this up to your next music video here. I mean, lol. And you know, there's literally more star power here than anywhere else in the house. So we're going to whip this up, and it'll be great.

And, you know, she just wants to make sure because his plans are starting to sound expensive, you know? So she's like, well, I'm so glad for you to be here because now you get to go back to your early roots where you get to create with $5. He's like, who? Yeah.

We may not have a million dollar budget, but we will give you billion dollar style. Here, why don't you prop up my book in the living room and that will be it, because you can't afford anything else. That is your decor. Congratulations. I don't know if I've stressed this enough, but paint job. That's what you're getting.

You do pay back your vendors, don't you? Of course I do. And then I have them jailed when they try and collect their bills. Oh, well, sounds delicious. Can't wait to be the next gay on your revenge agenda. So we go to Son's house and she's getting her hair. Does he not know Marco Marco? That's a question. Do you think Martin Lawrence... I'm going to look it up right now. Let's look up. Marco Marco. Marco Lawrence. Marco Lawrence. Marco...

Lawrence Ballard. Marco, Marco. Nope, no matches. So maybe they don't know each other. Who knew? Who knows? By the way, I looked up the sage thing, and there is a headline that says, the current popularity of white sage is causing its extinction on the border of Mexico and the United States. Yeah, there you go. So Sutton's house. She's getting her hair. And the way that our note taker, Nadine, wrote this, Sutton house. Yes.

- Which makes me laugh 'cause it just sounds like a place you go to, you know, the Sutton House. - Well, my apartment- - You come in, yeah, it's a very exclusive club. You come in, I sit you down, then I say, "You wouldn't be mad if you weren't divorced, stupid." - I used, my old apartment building was called Sutton Place. - Oh, there you go. - So maybe you're picking up on that.

So Sutton is like, y'all, I am kind of psyched tonight. I'm going to the Viper Room for the first time ever. And they're like, girl, wait, this is your first time? I'm shocked, girl. He's like, yeah, I know. I'm kind of like a real Angelina now. Fucking glam. I'm so sure. You're the only person in town even pretending to be shocked that Sutton hasn't been to the Viper Room.

I know. Sudden and the Viper Room, two concepts that don't really work well together. Then Garcelle's getting glam done, and she's saying, well, Erica's being honored by the GLAAD Association, and it's the Viper Room. Isn't it owned by Johnny Depp? And they're like, I think so. You know, it's funny. I was in Miami at a club, and yeah, I met out with Johnny. Isn't that crazy? So what global superstars have you guys hooked up with? Ha ha ha ha ha.

And one of them's like, oh my God, you could have had an island, you know, and some other stuff we won't mention here. You could have been part of some really cringeworthy videos. Awkward, awkward time to be bragging about making out with Johnny Depp. But you know what? We all make choices. I'm just so proud of Erica for being honored by the trash bag company. It's like finally she's like starting to understand, understanding her place. Finally, she's really leaning in. So.

So then Erica is talking. She's talking to Delia about like her look and then her phone rings and she goes, Oh my God, it's Dorit. Okay. Hey Dorit, what's going on? Oh, your hair is in a towel wrap also. Twinsies. Yes. Yes. We're twinsies. How are you, honey? I'm only asking this because I want to talk about me now. Can we talk about me?

"Oh, don't worry, tonight I'm not performing." And all the glam was like, "Oh, thank God." I was like, "Jesus, God, I might not even be there, but my head can still hurt from 10 miles away." - Yes.

- So then we have a flashback to Erica doing like a walkthrough at the Viper Room with Jaden, who's like part of posse pride party. And Mike is like, "Obviously this is our single release moment, not a performance, obviously." I'm like, "Is that so obvious? You guys are at like a club and there's a stage and there's like, there's a mic and she'll be getting up on it." - You're in a famous rock venue. - He's like, "Obviously we're not performing here much, okay?"

But it is going to be a celebration for Pride, for Domino's, for everyone who loves pizza on Pride. I literally thought when you said for Domino's, I was like, is Domino's Pizza sponsoring this single? I didn't realize the single was called Domino's. I'm telling you, Erica's coming from my heart this season. She's working for the trash bag company, and now she's going to stump for Domino's, my favorite fucking place. The worst pizza in the world that I will eat as much as fucking possible. God, I love that place.

of that terrible, terrible place. Is there ever truly a bad pizza? I don't think so. So Erica's like, all right, well, how are you doing? She's like, well, I'm sort of putting one foot in front of the other. Walking, have you ever considered it before? What a fun, fun activity.

Sort of like PK tried to do, but he kept falling down over and over again. Severe alcoholic, 100% on the nose. You know, the other day PK said he was putting one foot in front of the other, but he had attached Pringles cans to them and said, look at me, I could be in the circus, I'm on the stilts, and then he fell over. Luckily, he had a giant bowl of popcorn there to break his fall.

Well, you know, I had a nice afternoon with Boze. She came over, she had some good insight, and it definitely got me thinking. Kyle and PK, are they speaking? Because once upon a time, they definitely ticsis. And I don't know if there's anything that I don't know.

Do you know if there's anything that I don't know? Is there something that I don't know that you know that I don't know that you know? If you know something that I don't know that's known to other people, but I don't know it, you better know it. Say it now. And Erica's like, oh, Jesus Christ. I don't know shit, all right? I'm just pretending to be your friend here. Can I go? Clearly some producer is like, okay, well, Kyle told...

And Garcelle told Sutton, but for some reason we have not been able to close the loop on this gossip yet. So we're just going to tell Dorit and she can ask around. Yeah, Sutton is still deciding to be on Team Kyle because Kyle's an alpha to Sutton. And Sutton will always bow to Kyle no matter what. Even when she's like, I'm standing up against Kyle. I'm headed with Kyle. She's like, Kyle. The next season, she's like, Kyle, what can I do, Kyle?

Well, you know, I don't know if they're talking right now. I mean, I wouldn't put it past PK. He's the type of person who's going to want to know as much detail about my life that he can get. Even though I know zip, zilch, zero, nada, nyet, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh

And it's kind of sad because she's like, I'm sure he's just asking about me. And then when it comes to it, it's like, he sends me memes. Well, asked about me. Nope. Never mentioned you. I don't, I don't, I think he has an ulterior motive. I don't think it's just memes. And if it is just memes, it's just laying the groundwork to start getting like, you know, more like exclusive banter from get stuff out of Kyle. I think it's totally, totally not innocent. Yeah.

No, no, I don't think it's innocent either. I just don't think PK gives a fuck. PK seems so checked out, you know? So Dorit's like, well, you know, PK and Kyle have always had a relationship and they've always spoken and sent memes to one another. So if they are having conversations and PK and I are not even talking, any information would be helpful towards me. And she's like, well, that's the perfect night for you to ask then. There'll be a lot of trash bags and pizza to throw at the bitch.

By the way, how have we never noticed, you know, Ronnie, we talk a lot about how Kyle copies Lisa Vanderpump from Tiny Horses to Swings to Loving Dogs. How have we not noticed that she's even copied Lisa Vanderpump in being closer with PK than she is with Dorit? That's true. She fully copied that move. So now arrivals at Sutton's home. So Jennifer Tilly comes in. She's like, Sutton!

Oh, hello, you fabulous dogs. So good to see you. How are you? She just goes, by the way, it's such a brilliant shot because they just hold back. They hold back like wide as she goes around the corner. And then you hear her go, ah! And then she comes right back into shot. She sparkles, sparkles. Oh, you're so sparkly and sparkly. And she goes, well, I never sparkle. We are so in sync. You look gorgeous.

So they go to, now we go to the Viper room and people are at the step and repeat. And Kyle shows up with Kesha of all people. And Kyle's like, um, yeah, Kesha and I met on Instagram and she was following me. And then we DM'd each other and now she's here with me tonight. So yeah. So yeah, Kesha is a musician and we're friends. Let the rumors begin.

Oh yeah, like those rumors were just everybody making stuff up and not you completely leading us to believe that you were boning Morgan. Give me a break. But also do you love how she words it? Like, yeah, she was following me. So. Oh, you weren't following her? I know. That's an interesting. So Kyle, the lady who meets everybody on Instagram, you weren't following Kesha and then started stalking her to be your friend. Okay. Yeah, sure.

um so they're doing like a step and repeat and then Sutton and Jennifer Tilly are riding along and Sutton's like I'm a bit nervous she's like hey she's like hmm well you know Bo said to everyone Sutton I think you're a weaponizing situation in life right now and we get a flashback to that yeah and then um

Jennifer is like, "Well, I definitely think that you're getting a prickly energy from Bozey. I'm not gonna lie about that." She's like, "Well, is Dorit saying things to Boze to make Boze not like me? Well, here's what I'm gonna do to smooth things over. I'm going into this party and I'm gonna unleash so many microaggressions, you're not gonna believe it. I'm just gonna muddy the waters." - Yeah, seriously. So more step and repeat and

People walking in and Garcelle is like, well, I've been to the Viper Room years and years and years ago. Listen, it's iconic on the Sunset Boulevard. It's very rock and roll. And I think it'll be a fun night because when you go to a rock and roll venue...

Don't you always want to go with people like Kyle Richards and Sutton Strack and Dorit Kemsley? Rock and roll. A bunch of older ladies in sparkly dresses. It's like, what are we doing? A version of Follies tonight? Like, what's going on tonight? So Jennifer is like, my boyfriend and I used to play high stakes poker back in the back room of the Viper Room, but I've never really been there while it's club night.

I love her. She just has, like, she just has such... "She went to the Viper Room to play high stakes poker." What? So... She's playing illegal poker in the back room and she's like, "Oh, it's a club."

Never actually went there when there was a club going on. So Kyle's like, well, we all know I'm from this town, Beverly Hills, but I actually never made it to the Viper Room. Yeah, but I made it to every other club in town. Don't you know, like I practically lived at Bar One, The Gate, Roxbury, The Agency. I hit them all.

I'm sure Kyle made it to the front door of the Viper room many times. Don't sell yourself short. So then they're just making small talk and stuff. Then Sutton comes in and they make small talk with her. And then Boza's wearing some crazy bracelet. What were you going to say? Is there a world in which Kyle, when she's talking about all the clubs she went to, she was just talking about Peter Thomas's bar one? No.

- One of my favorite things to drink in this town is Peter's brew. - She's low key. Peter Thomas Stan, she's visiting him in jail. - Well, she's probably texting him. Cynthia's like, wait a minute. - That's true. - Have you been texting Peter? - It's just memes. - Just memes. - Just memes. - A lot of coffee memes.

Well, it's fun to be at a club. It's so good. I love it, says Jennifer Tilly. And now people are there. Bose shows up and a lot of, oh, hi, hi, hi. And then Kyle gets her finger stuck in Bose's bracelet. And it's funny. And then Jennifer is like, is that a bracelet or is that a weapon? And Sun Sun's like, are you weaponizing? We can laugh about this now. By the way, I'm really mad at you, but we can laugh about it right now, even though I'm raging. Look at how fun I am. Look at what a fun girl's girl I am bringing up weaponizing.

And she's like, "I am weaponizing, yes. Well, don't weaponize against me. I'm going to weaponize against everybody." And she's just not kind of not backing down from Sutton, but also like not letting her get away with her joke, which I kind of liked. And she's like, "The bracelet is the least of weapons I got in my arsenal. You ever heard of Bezos?" - Sutton doesn't want to strike first, I promise you that. It's the worst decision to make in strategy against me.

So now Dorit comes and the events coordinator asked her for photos. So they do that. And then she's like, who's Booze talking to? And Carl's like, that's Sutton. She goes, ooh. Oh.

So listen, I have to chat with you, Bose. When we were having our discussion at Kyle's party, I didn't like the word weaponized. Oh, you didn't like that word? I didn't. Well, the reason why I use the word weaponized is that when I say that, I mean that you have taken something and fashioned it to hurt somebody else. But it wasn't to hurt her. But it did. I mean, I felt it. I think most people felt it. She goes, but she's going through a divorce. I mean, I have to kick her when she's down. That's just part of the plan.

And she's like, well, I think in the moment maybe you were angry. And she's like, I wasn't angry. I was defensive. Okay. Great. And it's like, well, I think that if Boz put half the energy into her friendship with me as she did with Dorit, then she would know that this is Dorit's fault. I mean, I just don't get it.

And so she's like, "Now listen, Bose, you can just speak so eloquently." And I was like, "Oh, geez, Sutton." - Can you just make it one episode? Seriously. - Yeah. - With a black cast member. Like Sutton.

But I'm learning. And, you know, I do have a wide vocabulary. Yes, you do. And I think you are super smart with it, which actually makes you dangerous. Look at you being the one who's weaponized now. What? Damn it. She just, she's so good.

So she's like, yeah, this chick seems peaceful, but there's another side to her. And I don't know if she's Delulu or she's mean and calculating. Will the real Slim Sutton stand up? Yeah. Burn it. Print it.

"Oh, well, I am not dangerous. Will I call the cops on people? Perhaps, but I'm not dangerous, generally speaking." You are dangerous. So then Kyle's like, "Hey, everyone, this is Kesha. She's famous. Yeah, she's singing a song called TikTok. She kind of invented that whole platform. Yeah, she's the original TikToker. Come on, everyone. I'm friends with the famous person. So, yeah." "Oh, how are you? I'm such a fan of yours. You're so fabulous."

It's so cute watching Jennifer Tilly, who's an Oscar nominee, who owns part of the Simpsons, who's also like a high stakes poker player is just like effortlessly amazing fanning out over Kesha. She's standing there with a smile on her face like, here is Kesha. It's pop sensation Kesha. This is so exciting. Like it's so I love her so much.

So then Erica comes and, you know, she does some photos and all of that. And she comes by to check on the ladies in her hostess mode, swinging around that ponytail. And it's like, all right, ladies, it's a fun night tonight. Nothing more than it's a pride party. Having a good time. All right. All right. All right. All right.

So then Marley and Jaden go on the stage and they're like, welcome to Posse Pride. Are you ready to party? Are you ready to watch someone stand a little bit higher than you while you all listen to the same song? Because that's about to happen. And if you heard, then Jaden's like, if you heard our Popeye con, Miss Erica Jane has a new single. All right, everybody. I've got a new song. It's called Domino's. And here it goes. Pizza tracker, pizza tracker.

So

It was just so strange. Like, I know about, like, you know, single release parties and everything, but it was weird that she, like, normally you would think that she would, like, get off the stage and let people listen, but she's just up there like, all right, come on. All right. I'm like, why don't you just sing it? You're on the stage. You're holding the mic. You're in front of the audience. Sing the song. Yeah. And she's like, you know, I've... I love when she talks like she's Meryl Streep returning to Broadway. She's like, you know, I've never taken the stage for granted.

Okay, lady, wording, mouthing words at the Viper Room on an off night. I know. Literally taking it for granted. I've never taken it for granted. Certainly have to go through the hardest time in my life.

But I'm an artist, an artist who refuses to change her style or look or music in 10 years. I'm just like Picasso. So people are like, oh, my God, that's amazing. And Jennifer Tilly goes, domino, domino. I don't think it's going to win any awards for music, but it's catchy. And then Eric is like, thank you all so much. Thank you.

And so they're like, wow, that was great. So Dorit's like, it's so nice seeing Erika on that stage, not singing her song after coming back from such a dark, dark place known as the bathroom here. It's very poorly lit. It gives me a sense of inspiration. It's Erika.

To see that Erica can still press play on an iPod after going through what she's gone through. Really, really something. There is light at the end of the tunnel and it's a little, it's a bit of a sad light, but it is light all the same. Or as PK used to say, there is light at the end of this funnel. And he would hold up his funnel cake, bend backwards and swallow it whole. And I said, that's not light. That's just whipped cream you got on your eyelids. But it's like whipped cream, babe. Yeah.

So Kyle is like laughing about how like, we got the bad girls and the sparkles. And because half the girls are in sparkles and half are in leather. And it's like funny. And then Dorit is like, I'm Kyle, Kyle.

PK is in a very unpredictable state of mind, being that he's a severe alcoholic, doing alcoholic things. He doesn't join Alcoholics Anonymous, he's joined Alcoholics Let's Do This. And I'm on a real high alert, because when he's like this, I don't know what the hell he can do.

And Erica's like, oh my God, it's happening right here, the biggest fight of the century. And I was wondering and curious if you're speaking to him or if you have spoken to him. And Carl's like, um, um, um.

How do I answer this? - Kyle's the worst liar in the world. - The worst liar. - Well, my friendship with PK is like memes and jokes and you know, he doesn't share anything about your relationship or anything that's going on. Like we don't talk like that. It's literally just memes and jokes and things like that. You know, that's it, memes, haha. Pepe the frog, hilarious stuff. - But still even now,

I mean, have I gotten a meme from him in a while? Maybe within the last week. Kyle, just because you're saying it slower does not mean it makes it any better. Maybe in the last week I got maybe a meme. A meme in like a, is Dorit planning on doing something with litigation? I don't know. Something like that. I don't know. It's pretty light stuff.

Yeah, and she knows she's caught, but she's just so bad at that. And she's like looking all over the room too, you know? And so then Dorit's like, it's not even that Coyle has been communicating with B'Kid since our separation. It's that you're texting my husband when you and I aren't talking and when we're not good. It's just not okay.

And she's saying, you know, it's different now. And it's something I would expect that you would share it with me. And Kyle's like, well, if it ever got to the point where you guys weren't getting along, like, I mean, even if we were in a bad situation, like, obviously I'm a girl's girl. I mean, look at all the girls I've been so kind to on this show. Denise, Lisa, Kim, you know, line them up.

Yeah, obviously she's a girl's girl. Everyone knows that about Kyle Richards. But you know, we were not getting along. We're separated. We're not getting along, Kyle. Well, PK is not telling me that, like that you guys aren't getting along. Like, I didn't know that. You don't have to know anything. You just have to know that your girlfriend is getting a divorce and you're still texting with the ex. What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, Kyle's smart move here would be to say, you know, I've always been really close with PK. Yeah.

And so I wasn't really sure what to do in this situation. And if you're uncomfortable with me, like...

But you know what?

And say, I mean, we don't really have much of a friendship. I think I've had, like, we had dinner with them, like, once or twice. But then this season, it's like, well, we send memes and we were just, like, close like that. But that's okay. Isn't it funny? I'm closer with PK than I am with Doreen. So, like, you clearly have enough of a friendship that you're sending memes. Like, I don't just, like, send memes to an acquaintance, right? So she just, she's caught in all her lies. Yeah. Yeah.

And so she's like, well, PK and I aren't good and he's making my life difficult. And Garstel goes, oh, how is he doing that? And she's like, well, loss of communication. And when you have two small children, one of whom is a future ballet star, and you're separated and you're trying to shield them. And then Star's like, well, you can't shield the children forever. And she goes, oh, you can't shield the children forever? I don't play.

I don't plan to share them forever, son. You fucking bitch weapon. I was imagining against the world. I would do the lowest point in my life. Well, don't get mad at me. I'm just saying you don't shield your children. You use your children as shields. Okay? I mean, look at my daughter. Do you think there's not a reason she looks terrified every time you see her? Okay? It's because she's a shield. Okay? That's what children are made for. Now, put them in front of you and take those bullets, girl.

Oh, do not touch the kids. Do not hands off the kids. I think Sutton is coming from a good place, but those are her kids and she can do whatever she wants with them. And so she, you know, Sutton's of course defensive immediately, you know, even though she was just the one who kind of threw a barb.

- Yeah. And she's like, "Don't get mad at me." And Dorit's like, "Pretty strong statement, pretty strong." So she's like, "Well, I'm just saying," and we had this conversation on the boat. She goes, "Oh, the same conversation where you said, 'Lean on me when you're not strong.'" And she's like, "Well, yeah, yeah, that one." And so we see a flashback to that.

And Sutton's like, "I'm just telling you, I meant what I said. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart." She goes, "Oh, so judging by your..." She goes, "Oh, you know what? It's up to you. What have I done to you ever? What have I done to you?" Sutton just loses her shit for no reason. Sutton, if you don't want someone getting mad at you, stop making shitty comments where they're trying to have a conversation. Why are you trying to stand up for Kyle anyway? Back off, Sutton. Well, I think you insulted her and made her feel low at Kyle's party. And then we see, um,

the whole you're angry at your life thing. And Sutton's like, well, her life is bad and she's angry. And I've been there and I was defending her by reminding her how shitty her life is. It's probably her own fault. And Dorit's like, how am I supposed to believe that? It doesn't matter, Dorit. If I didn't say I want to be the first person that you call, I said, if you call, I will be there for you at a certain time. Maybe I won't take your call, but at some point I'll have Avi send you over a cookie or something and I'll be like, I'm here for you. That's all I said.

But why would I call the person? It's been kicking me while I'm down. It's like, oh, just forget it. Just forget it. Then forget it. Then I won't be there for you. Forget it. Erica's like, I told you, the sisterhood, the openness, the honesty, it's all bullshit right here in front of you. Told you so.

We aren't friends and forget it. You know what? I'll be cordial. I'll be cordial with you Dorit, okay? And she goes, there you go then. And Kyle goes, why don't we start the cordial part right now? Ding! Oh my God. It's this little girl standing in front of a burning building, but she's smiling. Sorry, what were we saying?

So I was like, well, here's to cordiality because we are not friends. I got it. She's like, can we go back for a minute then? Because I was kind of having a scene and I wasn't in this episode at all. And I got my lips done for this scene. So come on. Can we just like finish up on what we were saying? And says, yes, yes. Yeah. Go talk to your friend. Go talk to her. Go talk to Kyle, your real friend.

So Kyle's like, "I just wanna say, obviously, regardless of our situation, and I do feel like we've made a lot of progress in the whole still not calling you thing, which I'm still not, but in the past year, if it bothered you that PK and I sent memes, I would have never done it." And Boze is like, "Well, when I heard it, I definitely was like, 'Oh shit, that's a breaking of girl code.'"

Yeah, but she always laughed about it before. Like, you know, we were always like laughed about it, you know, like me and PK sending memes to each other. Well, yeah, before she was breaking up with PK. Kyle, what the fuck? Use some common sense. So Garcelle's like, would you have a problem if your man texted you while getting a divorce?

and erica goes i've never done that i've never done it i've never done it and garcelle's like well would you have a problem and jennifer's like i would so um yeah of course she would everyone would and so something's like what if i found my friend communicating with my ex i'm calling that friend and i'm saying what are you doing because that is not okay ding oh my god

This is Taylor Armstrong screaming and crying and fighting with a cat. This is crazy. I'm sorry, you guys. What were we talking about? Well, if it bothers you, even the memes, I don't even, I don't need to do that. She's like saying it like, okay, if you're going to be like the irrational crazy person here, if you're so sensitive, then I'll stop.

And Kyle's like, where did this come from? We already made up. And I felt really good about our friendship. And now she has to go dig this up so she can have something. Are you kidding me, Dorit? She's not doing it so she can have something. She's doing this because she suspects...

Yeah.

Yeah, that's Kyle. Kyle's a dick. And I'm really going to be honest. PK's been a better friend than me lately. He's been a better friend to me than Dorit has lately. You know what? And just insert a picture of Eddie Murphy tapping his temple lightly. There I said it.

So Dorit is like, clearly, even if you and I were in a bad place, just the fact that you text him, feel comfortable to just text him is crazy. And she's like, well, I would expect people to text Mo and me when we got separated. Oh, come on, Kyle. Come on. I want someone to come out of the woodwork. Someone who texted Mauricio and see how Kyle iced them out. Absolutely not.

And she's like, well, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending a Mo a text to not you. She's like, I'm done. I'm done. I am. I'm done. I'm done. I am done. I am. I am. By the way, let's also not forget that Dorit said like one thing at a reunion. Um,

um slightly in defense of kathy hilton like took up for on kathy's side just in the slightest way and kyle stopped talking to her for like six to nine months and then downgraded their friendship eternally and now she's acting like oh yeah if anyone were to text mo like i would fully expect that absolutely not kyle

Yeah. And so Dorit's like, well, you need to be very clear, Kyle. I need clarity. And Kyle's like, okay. And she's like waving her finger around, mocking Dorit and like losing her temper and her veins are popping out. You know, she's doing the Kyle thing.

And she goes, "What does that mean? I'm done." She goes, "I'm done with you. I'm done with you. I've tried to fix you. I've tried to fix this with you and I've tried. And okay, you know what? You're so fucking bitter, Dorit." And she's like, "Bitter? I'm asking you not to speak while your veins are popping out of your forehead. Please." - "I apologize and I said to you, I will not talk to him again. What more do you fucking want from you, from me?" She goes, "I want you to stop fucking raising your voice at me."

And she goes at her. She starts screaming at her over the table. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like pulling her apart. It's like, you didn't get to scream. Fuck you. And Kyle's like, oh, just shut up, Dorit. Just shut up. Oh, my God. Look at this one. It's a cat hanging from a tree that says, hang in there. Take that, bitch.

And that was the end of the episode because we hear then like we hear a glass break and then it says to be continued. So what will happen? Love the way that Dorit stood up to Kyle. Didn't take any of her bullshit. Did not was not like, OK, I understand. But please going forward, stop. You know, she just was like, you're being a bad fucking friend. And I like that everyone told Kyle, too. And I love the way that Kyle tried to worm out of it and totally failed at it. It's a failing season for Kyle.

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