#2725 RHOBH S1411 Part One: Reba McEnTerror
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I don't know. I thought it was absolutely amazing. I thought this was just like a phenomenal episode. It was, I was riveted the entire time. I mean, it felt like watching an old, like a play, you know, a lady Southern bell comes back home from Beverly Hills to deal with the death of a father and a mother. Who's a tough battle acts, you know, it was just, it was, it was,

both like, I was like crying, I was laughing, I was cringing. It really had, you know, everything. - Yeah, it was dark episode, a lot of darkness here. And there's a lot of talk of suicide and stuff like that. So if that doesn't, if that triggers you, okay, then turn this off, okay? If you didn't watch the episode and don't know what it is, there will be a lot of talk of that today. Not a lot of jokes about it, but a lot of talk probably about it, 'cause it happened, okay? It happened on the show.

So here we go. We are still in Augusta, Georgia. And the episode I like is just called Mind Your Business.

They're not even trying to get clever with that one. No, they're like, let's just quote Reba's big moment. So, um, God, this episode was so good. Like this was just, this was a Sutton extravaganza. I just am so excited by this. Okay. So Sutton is, uh, she's putting on makeup and everything. She's like, I've got to put on my makeup on. Where have I taken off my diamonds? And

And they're all just getting ready. Kyle comes in. She went out for a jog in the morning. She returns to the house. It's 1118. And Sutton's mother, Reba, is in the kitchen holding a blue watering can, just standing there. And Kyle comes back in and she's like panting. And she's like... And Reba's like...

You've been running. She goes, I've been running. I mean, I have a boat. By the way, I have a bone to pick with your daughter. She told me to go out of the house and make a left and then go to the left on Henry. And there was no Henry.

She's like, well, Henry's back there, stupid. In fact, you'd go to the cemetery the way you were going. You'd run to China and back without seeing it. But don't ever go again this late. You'll die in this heat. When I used to do it, it was 530 or 630 in the morning. You lazy, simpering fool. She's like, geez.

Also, I have to say, when Sutton was in her room, and she, I think that every child who grew up in the South might have thought this, but Sutton's like, "Where are my diamonds?" And she's looking around her room, and I was like, "Oh, God."

In five minutes, she's going to be blaming the maid. I just want to see this play out. I've seen it play out before, and I just want to see it play out again. But it didn't. And I was actually really disappointed. I really thought I was going to get some justice. I thought I was going to get some cleaning lady justice on this, but I never got it. You know, and I'm very offended. Yeah.

It seemed like it was going to go that way. The best part about Reba is that she does have kind of like the most stereotypical Southern drawl. Like it's slow, it's rounded, it's lilting. And so it just makes everything that she's saying seem more evil. Not that if you're evil, if you're from the South or if you have a Southern accent, it's just that like,

You know, it's that thing where someone sort of is smiling with a slow Southern accent where you can tell they hate you, but they're being nice to your face. And it's just like, the nicer they are, the more lilty their voice becomes, the more evil the undertone is. And her voice is really lilty. So she's like, you know, Kyle...

I am very strong mentally and I blame that on my father. I was also his favorite child, so he taught me how to be very strong and independent, something clearly you never learned in your life with your 11:00 AM jogging. Well, what sign are you? Stop. And also yield. Also caution. Many, many signs actually.

No, I meant like astrologically. Oh, the Satan chart? Well, on that I suppose I'm a Cancer, but I'm not a typical Cancer. I come with no warning. I spread for no reason and I get you quick, bitch. I told this to my friend. I'm not a nurturer. And she laughed. Kyle goes, "Really? You're not a nurturer?" "Yeah, Kyle, really? You're not?"

You're not a nurturer? No. So then Avi comes in, he's like, um, hi, Miss Reba, you'll be joining us for brunch. And she's like, brunch? I thought we were having breakfast. Um, well, it turned into brunch. By the way, Avi hates Reba. Like, his disdain, his hatred for Reba is so thinly veiled. Every time they're on screen together, it's uncomfortable. Like...

It's kind of amazing. There's zero veil. There is zero veil on it. Yeah, he's not veiling it at all. He's like, I don't have to put up with your stupid homophobic ass. You're not my mother. Which, she's like, who brought this homosexual into my household? So then... She drips with it, too. He goes, well, I thought, she says, brunch, I thought we were having breakfast. And he goes, well, it's turned into brunch. And she just looks at Kyle and she's like, I see that.

and then she looks to her watch as well she just doesn't have a watch on she goes well i don't have my watch but my freckles tell me everyone here is running late it's not my fault we can't have breakfast well i'm looking at my wrist and i'm looking up at you and all i can see is it's cock gobbler o'clock so the girl's down here mama's hungry

So Avi's like, "Well, okay, would you want to go get dressed and come back?" Which is so insulting, by the way. And he's like, which I think he did on purpose. And she's like, "Why am I getting dressed? Well, we're having a proper brunch." "Well, I'm fully dressed right now. As a homosexual, I thought you would have understood the value of good Southern fashion."

And he's like, okay, I just thought you might want to fluff up a bit. Fluffing's illegal here. Try it and you'll be in prison, sir. She goes, I don't need to do that, but I'll see you in a few minutes. When you get to my age, you no longer groom yourself. You groom a dog with very long hair. Please excuse me.

So she's like, seriously, that dog. We see when we see the mom's dog, I'm like, oh my God. You see, everybody has a soft spot. And that dog also looks terrified when she's like, I'll be back cookie or whatever the dog's name is. The dog's just like, please don't please fall. It just keeps looking at the stoop. Like, please fall. Please. It also makes you realize what son's childhood was like, because you know, the way that like Reba.

combs that dog's hair is the way she would comb Sutton's hair. All right, Sutton, now you lay here. I'm going to make you pretty. Just comb your hair. Stop moving so much. Um, so Garcelle comes down the staircase and, um, and so she says hi to everyone and everything. And, and Avi is checking on grits cause he doesn't want to burn them. And they're just making some chit chat, just general chit chat about like arriving. So anyway, Garcelle, uh,

They're still saying hi. Okay, she doesn't want to mess up. She wants to have a conversation with Reba. That's basically the gist of this moment. Well, yeah, basically. But Cheryl, the housekeeper, is also there. And Cheryl also wants this woman to die, which is so funny. So Garcelle's like, okay, I'll help you guys set up. And he's like, well, okay, let's do this. But, you know, we don't want to rush Sutton because we don't want to mess with the...

He starts doing like shaky hands and he's like, "The chakras. We don't want to mess with the chakras." And she goes, "Oh God, please not today." Right?

So then meanwhile, Kyle and Cheryl's just like, "Don't make me talk to fucking Reba today. I'm telling you now, don't make me talk to that witch today." So then we go up to Kyle and Sutton and Kyle's like, "Hey Sutton, I was talking to your mom. She's so great. As someone with a mom who fed somebody nails on a date to get revenge, let me just say, I get it." Sutton's like, "Well, she's very interesting, I suppose."

This really must speak to how tough Big Kathy was, because if Kyle is like dealing with Reba and be like, she's such a sweetheart. Oh, man, your baseline is so skewed right now. But but also like I would, you know, Reba is much nicer to Kyle.

which is notable. She's, she's much friendlier. She's much more open, which has all sorts of layers of implications, you know? So, uh, because it's like in some way she can get an advocate out of Kyle. And then also there's just like, it like, you know, of course, um,

she's just going to be nicer to Kyle, like the white pretty lady who comes in and, you know, Reba's like, oh, hi there. I mean, that's what the internet was pretty much all saying over the past week. Yeah. And I agree. I definitely felt that after the first episode, this one, I didn't feel like she was nice to Kyle. I think she talked to Kyle, like you're a fucking moron, but I do think that she would be, you know, nicer to Kyle because of, you know, both racist reasons and also because Kyle and because she knows that Kyle and Sutton hate each other.

deep down. She knows that Kyle's mean to Sutton. So I think part of her is just like, oh, that's who this girl's on my team. Well, she also knows an advocate for Sutton. So she's going to shut her down immediately. You know, I, but I do get the sense of is that, um, Reba over the course, the episode gets an appreciation of how much of an idiot Kyle is. Cause I don't think that Reba likes to deal with idiots. I think she starts to realize that Garcelle is the smart one. And she starts to realize that Kyle is actually the dumb one.

Yes. But also Reba's one of those people who, as you know, I've read the same comments as you have on the internet, and I'm not going to argue with them because we know the history of the South. And we, especially when Reba goes into her like, well, back in World War II, it's like, okay. So that's like from a different time. So I'm not even going to argue with any of that. One thing I will say about Reba is that she is amazing.

a hater period she hates all of these people i don't think there's one person on this show that she likes she even hates her own grandkids she's like that weirdo do i have to sleep in his room so this is fair this is a fair point she is she's an equal opportunity hater yeah she just hates everybody so in that way she's fair you know i don't know if she's fair and equitable in any other way but in the hatred department she she hates them all

Yeah. So Kyle, of course, does not pick up on any of this. And she's like, whoa, wow, your mom's so great. And I understand more about her just in the little conversation that I had, which is I think Kyle's way of bragging. Like, I made a breakthrough with your mom. And so Sun's like, well, what did you learn? Oh, well, she had a very tough dad and he taught her to be strong. And she told me that she's not a nurturer. And Sun's like,

She said that you got that out of her. Well, I mean, she's aware of that. Like, you know, and how long was it? By the way, how long was your dad not well for? She's like, um, uh, well, I noticed it when I was like 25 or 26, but sudden is the like reeling that her mom just like made a, I had a moment of self-awareness right in front of Kyle, but that like clearly sudden could never pry out of her own mother.

Well, it's also a moment of just someone not from the South being there because people who aren't from the South don't have the same rules of not speaking, you know, like, so how do you feel? What's your sign? What do you like? What do you like? And you don't like, you know, people you're not used to talking about feelings like that. So Sutton's like, wow, how'd you get this out of my mother? I asked her.

And it's like, oh, how dang, how gauche. So Sutton tells us that she was in her 20s when she got the call that she needs to come home. And it was surprising because she didn't understand how her father, who was their rock, could be starting to break. And I guess she's talking about his mental illness and depression and stuff. And she talks about how they put him in the hospital twice. And Kyle goes, really? I didn't know that.

Cause you don't fucking listen, Kyle. Kyle, we know this. And even I knew that Kyle. And then she's like, what was going on with him? I'm like, Kyle, can't you read between the lines? So Sutton is like, Sutton's like, uh, it's not talking about how he was in a depressive state and he, they, they want to put him on drugs. And then he was on sleeping pills and he just was, he was on those drugs. And Kyle goes for depression. No, no. Yeah. Kyle.

Jesus. Kyle is so useless in these situations. It's actually kind of hilarious. Like, it actually makes me like Kyle more because she plays the role of Rose Nyland. So then Sutton is like, you know, talks about how he had chronic depression and then he was on pills to regulate everything and we see all these...

photos and we see young Sutton. It's like very like it. This is sad to watch, right? Because we know the tragic end. And she talks about how he'd be on and off them for years and he would self-medicate with alcohol and talk a lot about like suicidal ideations. And but he never went to therapy. So he had this disjointed treatment of just like pills, but no therapy, which is really not a wise, you know, way to go forward. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a scary way to go forward. And it's a way that a lot of people take now, which is also terrifying, you know. So she's basically talking about the self-medication and stuff. And he went through this for six full years before he passed away. And she says he shot himself in December 20th and December 22. Sorry, it was when he killed himself. And it's interesting because it's almost like she's making the...

choice of how she words it because you know we word it differently now we say like he he passed by or died by suicide yeah you know stuff like that it's like he killed himself you know so there's a lot there with her and Kyle goes well you're lucky to have your mom and she's like thanks for your toxic positivity just goes yeah I don't think I've ever heard her sound more like Clint Eastwood she was just like

Yeah. And then we cut to Reba. I mean, this is all fascinating, right? Because we see Reba is this hardened woman who's went through this massive trauma and like, she's just like,

just cold and stone ossified and you just like locked down. And now she's just mean. And so we was like, she's, she's just Hector in Avi about his making the grits. And she's like, how many minutes had the grits been in there an hour? And he's like, could you tell me, I mean, can I take it out? I mean, does that look good to you? I mean, you're the grit screen around here, bitch. And she's like, oh, well, all you're doing is heating up. You do realize that, right? You stupid homosexual idiot. Yeah.

He's like, yeah, well, I don't want to overcook them. It's like, well, you don't want dry grits. Turn it off. And he goes, well, that's what I asked. But okay. She goes, what are these forks for? And he's like, if someone wants to cut a slice of cake and she's like, okay, where it's almost going to take, take a piece out of your cakey. But the yeah, I mean, look,

Reba's mean, okay? And I get that she's off-putting. But don't fuck with Grits, man. Are you heating them up? Or are you... Part of me is on her side. I'm like, don't fuck with the Grits. She's not necessarily wrong here. She's like, look, all you're doing is heating them up. Why are you asking so many questions? Why have they been in there for an hour? Put them in for 20 minutes and take them out. That's all you have to do. Yeah. So then Garcelle joins. And the good thing about Grits is you can just always add more cream, y'all. So Garcelle joins them and...

So he's like, so what am I making you? And she goes, well, what do you have? You live here. And he's like, well, would you like...

She's just like torturing Avi, which is so funny. So then, um, Garcelle's like, "How are you? You look good." And she goes, "You look wonderful." It's like, wow. That was the nicest thing Reba said. No, no, no. She didn't say it, except she didn't say it like that. Sorry. Sorry to, sorry to no-and you, but they were, Reba, Reba is like so angry at Avi right now. She's like just staring at Avi and she's like, "Well, I don't want that. I don't want to drink that." Because Avi's like, "Do you want a vodka lemonade?" She's like, "I don't want that." And Garcelle is standing next to Reba and goes,

you look great. And she's like, well, I don't want, and you look great too, honey. Anyway, what are you going to make me drink? It was like, okay, let me, let me give you a little like, yeah, you look wonderful. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What would you like a vodka lemonade? She goes, no. What else you got? He's like, I could do a bloody marriage. She goes, definitely. I can definitely do that. So Garcelle asked how she sleeps. And she's like, well, I was just telling Avi, I don't like that. I was, how would you sleep being served the wrong eyes? Jesus Christ.

It's very Heather Dubrow. There's multiple ice options in this kitchen. So then Garcelle's like, let me just say this. Apple tree. So then we get, of course, a montage of Sutton being totally...

totally demanding to all her friends over all the years, which of course is, you know, what we love about her. And then, um, Garcelle says that, you know, with Reba and Sutton, they're both like a little awkward, but somehow lovable. So she, um, I love that they ended the montage with Sutton being like plastic hangers. You know, we don't like this. So they ended with a mommy dearest thing with Sutton and then cut back to her mommy dearest. It's time for a commercial.

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No. Do you ever use this when you're questioning someone? Wow. And if someone reveals an inner secret, do you ever go with a classic, what? What? So Garcelle asked her about being a therapist and Reba's like, I'm quitting in September. Well, how come? I'm 82. What?

All right. We go to sit on the porch. I'm 82. Jesus Christ. At least this one has the excuse of having dicks in his mouth. What's your excuse? Let's go sit on the porch. I really need to hear from her patients. What is it like having Reba as your therapist?

It's like, well, I just, I feel really insecure and I just feel like I can't speak up when I really want, like in moments when like there's conflict, I just sort of become a shell of a person. Well, that's not my fault.

I can actually see how Reba could be a good therapist because look, you know, I'm like a Gen Xer. You hear my advice, stop your fucking crying. And I think that's how she probably is. Cause when she doesn't talk, she has that, she has kind of a sweet smile and she does look like she's listening to you. Her eyebrows are raised and she nods. I don't know if it's,

I don't know if it's like medical, but she's like always nodding. And it's just like a Meredith. If it's medical, it's the Meredith marks, let's just say where she's got kind of like a just regular head bobble. So she looks like she's listening to you and she's got like a nice serene smile on her face. So I think if she doesn't talk much, you can just kind of implant whatever you want.

You can project whatever you need her to say, be saying that she would be saying, I can see how she could pass as a therapist for sure. Well, she would also be, I would love to see her as a therapist to like an obnoxious man. Like I would love to see a guy trying to go up against her and she'd be like, now what made you think that? You know, I think that's, I feel like that's what her, that's the only question she would ask over and over again. I would love to see her just like, just take down some awful guy and,

But for a therapist, for me, it would be challenging. I would have a very rough time doing therapy with her. I think it would be good for me because I'd cry and then she'd go, okay, honey, get over it. Nobody likes a crier. Okay, that'll be $100. I'd be like, oh my God, that was amazing. It's the best therapy I ever got. So they go out. She called me fat. Oh my God. Okay.

I'd come home all giddy and just getting abused at therapy. So Reba and Garcelle go out to the back porch and Reba's like, do you want some ice? And Garcelle goes, no, I'm good. Being tropical, I don't really have a lot of ice. Well, you are in English, that's for sure. Congrats, English people, you just caught a stray. Yeah.

Like, what the fuck kind of thing is that to say? But the reason I'm laughing so hard is because of Garcelle's reaction. She goes, "Oh, what?" And they just go sit down. She goes, "Wow, this is so lovely. Thank you so much for indulging us. You know, I have such an affinity for your daughter, and I think she would give you the shirt off her back." She goes, "Well, she would do that. She's always been like that.

She has terrible taste. So get the shirt off her back. You're not going to be invited anywhere. I'm going to tell you that right now. On the other hand, she might look a little prettier without that hideous shirt. So girl, trust me, giving her the shirt off your back helps only her.

Well, I'm so happy we're having this one-on-one time together. And I wanted to talk to you because Sutton and I have had intimate conversations. We see a month earlier Sutton is crying about Reba and saying that she knows that her mom loves her, but doesn't ever feel like her mom is ever proud of her. So Garcelle says...

You know, she's so proud of how far she's come, and she would just love to hear you say you're proud and you love her too. And I feel like I can say something to that. I agree. Well...

I don't think that's any of your business. Reba just leans in. And she just smiles a big smile at her. And she's like, now, I don't want to insult you. I think you have no clue, honey. Okay. Ooh, it is so devastating.

You just can't say those words in a Southern accent and not be totally devastating. It's just, it is like Garcelle is Teflon, you know, which I love too. And she also kind of, I think gets what Reba is saying because Reba's like, listen, honey, you think it's been terrifying living with me for all these years. What do you think has been like living with Sutton all these years? You know? And I think that, that Garcelle can kind of get that.

And Garcelle, I think we've been watching this moment in the previews all week. So we're like, oh my God, this is so awkward. Garcelle does barely even flinches. You can see that she stiffens up a little bit like this.

bitch, don't try it with me. But she also is like, I'm prepared for you. You think I can't handle you? I, I'm not backing down. And she's like, I'm not back to you in a very gentle and actually a very respectful way, but she does not back down. And she's like, you're right.

I don't. I haven't lived with you guys. I haven't grown up with her. I don't know. You're right. I'm just coming as a caring friend. And before you lean forward and say something else that's condescending to me, I'd just like to say no.

So you're giving me a message. Is that it? She goes, well, maybe I am. Maybe I am the messenger. There. Done. So what do you say to that bitch? Yeah, good for her. And one way I get where Reba's saying, like, it's none of your fucking business. And it's not, but...

At the same time, like I care about your kid and you obviously have a shitty relationship. So I'm trying to help. You want me to back off? I'll back off. So I think our cell handled it very well. You know? Yeah. I mean, truthfully it's, it really isn't Garcelle's place to have this conversation with, with the mom, but she's just like, fuck it.

I'm going to do it because a, I'm on TV and be like, what? I love my friend and her mom needs to know. And I don't care if it's awkward and impolite. I'm going to do this. Yeah. And as someone who's lost her mother, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff you regret that you wasn't communicated, you know? And it's like, I think you just get to a point where you're like, what are all these walls we build up with each other? They're so stupid. Yeah.

You know, they're so stupid. We just make all these invisible rules that we're not allowed to say this and we're not allowed to say that we're not allowed to show this feeling. Fuck it. Who cares? Let me tell you, I read a lot of books. I watch a lot of TV show. Let me tell you how they all end. People die. They all fucking die. So whatever you have to say, say it, you know, because your story is the same way everybody else's does.

You know what? Too many walls have been built in between us. Too many dreams have been shattered around us. If I seem to give up, that still never win because deep in my heart, I know the strength is within. That's Kathy Dennis. And she's never been more wiser. Katherine Dennis?

Kathy, very big difference. Kathy Dennis, not Katherine. Good for you. Katherine Dennis was always a poet. My favorite poet from Katherine Dennis was when she was like, "Crosswalk, crosswalk, fuck yourself. I ain't slowing down. Die, stupid crosswalk lady." It was kind of iambic pentameter, and I thought it was beautiful. I liked the haiku that she did once that went,

Thomas, Thomas, Thomas, Thomas, Thomas, Thomas. Oh, I did one too many syllables. Yeah, you fucked it up there at the end, but that was pretty good. It was an extra bonus syllable. Bonus syllable just to kind of, you know. That was a haiku plus. It was a haiku plus. It was supersized. 4.99 extra on Peacock.

Anyway, so inside, so we cut away, Kyle comes down. If you shed a tear just now at the beauty of Catherine Dennis's poetry, you're not the only one.

I made Ronnie chuckle. That's I'm done. So anyway, you guys don't know what happened to us. Good night, everyone. You're just so funny because I see you counting on your fingers. I was so sad that I didn't stick the landing. Just you counting on your fingers and not knowing what to do with that extra S was really funny.

But the thing is, there was so much flexibility with the syllables because it was only one word. All right. So Sutton comes downstairs and she's setting up the table with Avi. She's like, why don't we transfer some flowers from the living room and put them on this table? And Sutton

Kyle comes in, she's like, "Oh my God, everything looks so nice. Everyone here to eat. Yeah, it's going to be amazing. So everything's good, right? We're all a big happy family." It's like everybody's tense but Kyle, you know? Yeah, Kyle has no idea the subtext of anything happening in this episode. So, Sud's like, "Well, Garcelle's talking to mom." He's like, "Oh, oh." So then we go back outside and Garcelle's like, "I think for me, my mom being gone, that's right of."

put on a little bit of the victim cloak here so you can't come at me i miss her so much and i wish there were things i would have said to her and reba goes well death is final isn't it you can't call your mother up and say you can't call up your mother and say i wish you were proud of me in my stupid little boutique congratulations you sell us you sell a camisole somewhere wow wow

I can promise you your mother didn't care about a boutique when she was here and she doesn't give a shit about it now. Death is final, okay? Just like sales probably have to be at your store, otherwise everything would be returned over. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're talking to me, Garcelle here. This is not Sutton. I'm sorry, dear. That was called projection. I'm a therapist.

Let me tell you what they got. It's very hard. I've been dealing with the drama of possibly dry grits all morning. I've got some northerner making grits out in the kitchen. Doesn't know what he's doing. It's a very stressful time for me. And now I got to care about some squirt that's being sold in Beverly Hills. So Garcelle is like, she's like, no, no, no. I wish I could. I wish I could say anything. I would give anything to do that. Yes. And so I think so.

sudden i think the sun come out yeah okay time for brunch guys and reba's like well we've been waiting since eight o'clock because now it's got to be noon right so son's like well why why do you say things like that mom she goes to show you more love to show that you've wasted four hours of time that i could could have been giving you the love that you so apparently need

And so she's like, ma'am, thank you for your time. Well, thank you for wasting it. This has been fun. So they clink and she goes, you're welcome. That'll be a thousand dollars. And Garceau's like, hold on, wait for another trademarked. Kyle comes out, what costs a thousand dollars? I want to buy something that costs $1,200. I can shop anywhere.

I could shop anywhere, even in Reba's backyard. Every time Ben and I pass a gas station store, we're like, oh my god, I can shop anywhere. Gas station stores, airport stores, airplanes. I could shop anywhere. It's totally my personality. I know the one place Kyle can't shop, though. Kyle by Alien 2. Oh, burn. I know. Never too late to disc that one.

So, Garfield's like, "Somewhere along the way, Reba got really hurt. She shut down. And that's what we're seeing. It may just be a dry biscuit to us, but it's the end of the world to Reba." So, I know why Sutton had a relationship with her dad, and she didn't have that with her mom. And I think there might be some jealousy there. There might be some jealousy. I think that's actually pretty good. You know, maybe the mom was like, "Well, you liked him better anyway."

Well, and also the think back earlier in the episode, she said that the Reba said that she was her dad's favorite. Right. So Reba, like she both knows what it's like to be in Sun's position, but she also is now like rebelling.

realizing like i think that she she probably in some ways misses that as well and is definitely i do think there's probably some jealousy there and i think it's probably hard like if you are a parent and you see like you feel like you do everything for your child and then you see the child just like has a different bond with the other parent like i actually can imagine that might be difficult i'll never know because i'm not gonna have a kid but like i'll ask my house plants about it someday

Here's what my houseplants say if you ask them. "Please give me some water, please! I'm so thirsty!" Yeah, I've got a houseplant, Plantasia, and she has some beautiful new blonde highlights, courtesy of being ignored. She's like, "Like my new luck." She looks like Tina Turner now. Okay, so now they start eating, and

Reba's like, "Whoa, great color. I love this color." And she goes, "Well, they gave those to me 'cause I ordered a hundred napkins, mama. So I got some flowers." So then Junebug comes in and sees the flowers and starts barking at them, which was pretty funny. She's like, "Move the flowers. Junebug's an idiot.

But then she's also like, isn't Reba taking one of the nice napkins and pretending to do bullfighting with June Carter? She's like, here you go, run at it, run at it. She's waving it, and then June just goes nuts. So she's like, oh, I love these napkins you got, son. And then she immediately uses it to torture the dog. Yeah.

So then they sit down and they start having some brunch stuff. And Garcelle says, do you want me to serve here? Do you want me to move those? Just give it to me. I'll move them. She goes, would you? Okay, that wouldn't go. Mama, it looked pretty for a second, but we're not going to be able to see each other. She goes, good. I want all y'all to see my face. Has anybody had any of these grits? And Garcelle's like, oh, these are good. It's like, you lucked out this time, Cocoa Puff. Avi, talking to you.

Well, I loved that Garcelle is like, they're all talking about the grits. Like, oh, these are cream puff, right? I'm sorry. I just really like Cocoa Puffs. The more standard. They could have gone Cocoa Puffs down the wrong way by accident. I was like, wow, why did I say Cocoa Puffs? I guess I'm at cream puff. I'm trying to think of my old Southern, you know, anti-gay to say.

The way that you've been tormented in the past. Cream puff is the term. I prefer Cocoa Puffs. Okay, everybody, calm down. So, um...

what I liked about this scene was they're eating this grits. They're all kind of having this small talk moment because that way no one has to talk about anything. Reba's like, everyone's like, Reba's saying, has anyone had the grits? And Garth's like, oh, these grits are good. Kyle, you didn't have any because Kyle's clearly probably like moving the grits around because she's like, oh my God, carbs. And Kyle,

Kyle being put on the spot to have grits. That is Gar- I love that in the middle of all this, Garcelle still finds a way to be petty towards Kyle. She's like, "I'm gonna make you eat those grits on camera, 'cause if you don't eat those grits, Reba's gonna notice now." - And Kyle does her weird voice like, "Um, I'm gonna eat 'em next."

Um, like, fuck you. Cause you know, grits are the most evil food that you can possibly eat. They're like, if you're trying to lose weight, those, those are the most, it's just cornmeal, but it's not just cornmeal. It's butter, cream, butter, cream, butter, cream, butter, cream. And then you just keep stirring more butter and cream until it tastes good.

And she's not going to touch that shit. Yeah. Didn't we just order grits like last episode at that restaurant and, and the member of that restaurant that she met bows with and three is like, I'll have the grits please. And it's just funny to see that there's like a grits through line happening in Beverly Hills. Oh yeah. Last place I would expect it. So really interesting observation by me. Guys, let me stop.

Grits are not the show. They grits another episode. I have an announcement grits. They're back. So Reba goes, she thinks you put sugar on them. And Garcelle's like, well, some people do eat them with sugar, but I just don't get it. She goes only Northern people.

I think at this point now, Garcelle has won over Reba. This is the point where Reba realizes that Garcelle, like she, I think that Reba, at least maybe I'm projecting this onto it, there may be no evidence for this, but I think that Reba likes the way Garcelle held her own against her and that Garcelle understands a proper way to make grits. That Garcelle is also mortified by Northerners and their use of sugar. Yeah.

And I think that also Reba probably, on a certain level, really adored the way Garcelle humiliated Kyle about the grits just now. She's like, oh, that was good. I like this woman. You can stick around.

So they're talking about how pretty the house is. And so it's like, oh, I love all the houses in Augusta. They're all kind of different. You know, the house we lived in was built in, that was 1933, mama? She's like, 38. 38, that's what I meant. You know, and I was thinking, I might take them by and see it. And Reba just kind of nods. And she goes, it's just around the corner. She goes, it is just around the corner. Are you trying to trigger me? It ain't gonna work. I'm not gonna say anything snotty. So you know what else is just around the corner? This wooden spoon to your head.

So...

So Sutton's like, I want to go back to my childhood home. And she says she wants to show Kyle and Garcelle where she grew up, you know, because she loved the house, etc. But also, like she said, we always had great memories in that house until December 23rd, 2002. So this is like, I mean, this is so heavy. And it really does feel like, if not a Tennessee Williams play, some other like 20th century American, you know, piece of theater that we're watching unfold right now.

So, um, this is crazy. And also two days before Christmas. Oh, I know. It's just so dark. So set. Yeah. So Kyle's like, oh, so we're going to go see your house. We're going to get to go inside. You know, I could sell it for you guys. Like I'm in real estate. So if you guys need that, and we was like, no, we're not going inside. Somebody lives there. And then Kyle pauses. She's like, oh, I think we're going inside. So it's like, well, we might ring the doorbell. Oh, whores. No, you don't do that. You don't do that. Yeah.

Oh, horrors, no. She just got like 50% more Southern in that moment. And so Garcelle is like, you don't want to go inside? And she goes, I'm definitely not going, no. Did you not hear me say horrors? So Sutton is basically saying, she now tells us that when her dad shot himself, Reba was home and she was in the kitchen and she knew that he was

Like he was on pills and he was on Xanax and he was self-medicating. He was just in a really rough state. And she also knew that there was a loaded gun in the house. So Sutton says that she personally has some penned up resentment towards her mother about it. I guess she's implying that her mother should not have had the loaded gun in the house, etc. So it's just, it's dark. And you know, Reba carries that with her too. You have to imagine, right? Yeah.

Even though it's not Reba's fault, but you have to imagine she probably thinks about that. It's just all one big psychological morass. Yeah. So Reba's like, all right, well, what's next? We've been sitting here a long time. Anybody just want to pull a baseball bat and treat me like a pinata?

Thank you. This was really, really yummy. Wasn't it yummy, Kyle? Didn't you enjoy all the grits that you ate? Oh, wait, you still haven't touched them. I'm about to eat them right now. God, stop it. Well, I'm going to go grab my purse upstairs. And Reba's like, where are you going, Sutton? She goes, we're going to go see the house, Mama. She goes, oh.

So Sutton's like, well, you know, it's a lot I just said because, you know, we're still on Sutton's confessional and the producer's saying, has your mom tried to deal with any of this? She goes, oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And she goes, well, that's a lot. I just said, we don't talk about this. It's like, well, you just gave an earful to America. So it's going to be interesting. I wish we could see the mom's reaction, maybe in the after show or something. But I don't know if the mom even watches any of this. But yes, son's like, yeah, I'll give you a full report. And Reba's like, I don't want one. Here comes one right now.

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So then we now it's time to like switch things up. We're going to go back to Los Angeles. We're in Erica's home and there are painters there fulfilling Martin Lawrence Blah's vision. And there's like there's construction. There's like things happening. So Erica FaceTimes to read and she's like, there you are. You ready? You ready to see what's going on? First of all, the place is a disaster, but look what's happening. Oh,

Oh my god, the cabana's getting a facelift! Well, the cabana's getting a whole new life. The wallpaper's going in over the weekend, but wait. Ah, boom! Ah, boom! Look what a little paint does to a hallway! I love that Martin Lawrence is really leaning into the black and white prison stripes for this whole thing. You gotta love someone who actually watches the show.

Yeah. So Erica's like, I've been under a microscope since the day I left Tom. And we see headlines again, in case someone has not been watching the show. And she's financially, socially, emotionally, I couldn't have done anything right. So God forbid I spend anything I make.

And so now she's buying a Porsche. Now we see footage of her buying like a Porsche and then putting a bow on it and stuff like that. Yeah, I love that Erica tried to like keep it calm for about a year. She's like, fuck it, I'm getting a Porsche and a remodel.

She's like, yeah, well, there were some people that said I shouldn't even be able to work and have money. You know, I've always loved this tiny little house with its little stove, tiny little hot plate and...

You deserve it, Erica! Oh, thanks, honey.

After four and almost five years of hell, I'm excited about life again, and I feel really good about that, because that's a signal to myself. You're returning back to normal. You're getting there. You're slowly making your way back to a place you recognize. Before you know it, I'll be crawling all over the floor of the thong, singing a song. I'm not sure what the song is yet, but I'm sure there's going to be a rhyme with pussy in there. So you just watch out, Grammys. Here I come.

I'm not someone who sleeps into noon, but I was. I was sleeping to noon if I even got out of bed. But now I wake up at eight in the morning and prepare for a whole day of nothing. It's exciting.

So then we go to Boze's and Boze has a scene with her daughter and she's like, "I got us some snacks." And so she's like, "Oh, that's fancy." Don't act like I don't do this for you every day. Okay. All right, here, let's just spread the snacks all over the couch and lie down on the couch and eat them. We'll just make the assistant over there. Stand there with the dust buster.

Look at this. It's white chocolate, and that's caramel, and these are brownies, and that's some sort of donut hole, and that's some sort of cookie stick, and this thing, I like to call it a tray. They all sit on it. Enjoy! And this is such a mom thing to do, too, where you lay out all these snacks, and you go, okay, here's everything, and then you eat a bite of one thing. She's like, that's not how you eat it! You're supposed to dip it first. Come on, Lel.

So her daughter, Lael, is that how you say her name again? Lael? Lael? L-A-E-L? I don't know. I think it's Lael. Lael. So Lael. I don't know. But so she sits her down and everything and she talks about how, you know, they are really close because, you know, ever since Boza's husband died,

"Lel's been the, like, it's been the two of them," et cetera. And so, you know, Beau's asking her what's going on and Lel's talking about she's got volleyball and friends and stuff like that. - It seems like they don't, I mean, they seem very close in one way, but in the other way, I think it's probably just being on TV. You know, she's not used to being on TV, but it does seem very job interviewee. She's like, "All right, well, what's been going on?" She's like, "Volleyball and my, can I eat, should I dip this in?" "No, you don't have to dip that one." "Okay, ma'am, thank you."

Okay, your little friends. Why do you say it like that? What, your little friends? Yeah, do you want me to say your big friends? Ha ha! They'll kill you. I wouldn't say that to any of them, especially the one that won't touch the grits. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

So, Lael Shubaisi is asking, like, "By the way, how long have you been dating Mr. Keeley?" "Oh, eight months." And she says, "Well, 'cause you told me in December, but I didn't know you were officially dating, and then you told me you were friends, and then you gave me that eyebrow, like, you sort of were like, 'Hmm?' Like, so I didn't know exactly what you meant, so you were like, 'So, one of my friends is coming over to Ghana.'" She's like, "Girl, why are you imitating me like that? That's not how I talk. Hmm?"

Well, the last time I imitated how you actually do talk, I was offered the role of Mama Rose in Gypsies. All right, good point. Good point. Don't imitate me. So what are you talking about? She's like, well, I mean, I didn't know if you were dating dating. She goes, well, we were dating dating. I mean, at that point, a man is going to fly halfway across the world to see you. I would consider that dating.

So Bose tells us that Keeley kind of spontaneously showed up in Ghana. And so Bose had to tell her daughter, oh, by the way, there's a guy I've been dating who's coming to see us. And she was like, where? Like here in Ghana? She's like, yeah. So that's pretty intense that Keeley flew all the way across to Ghana.

So, but she says, things, by the way, are moving for me and for Keeley in a way that's surprising for all of us. And as you know, your mom is not a spring chicken. She's a summer chicken. I just invented that. We're going to brand it next. And I was like, okay. You know what? At my age, it would be better for us if we wanted to have a child to do it sooner rather than later. How do you feel about that? There's only one right answer. And that is great. I love you, mother.

She's like, "Well, um, I would feel good about it." "Oh, well, why are you okay with it?" "Hmm, hmm, hmm, tell mama!" And she's like, "Well, I just, I'm trying to think of the right words." "Use any words, just not the wrong ones. I'm watching you." "Dip it." "You can start with Netflix." "Dip it." "Netflix." "Dip it. Eat it. Eat it. All right, use the right words." "Take your words and dip it into the chocolate sauce and then the caramel sauce. There you go."

She's like, "Well, I'm going to be leaving and then you won't have a kid to raise anymore." Oh, kids. Kids are so cute. Just thinking, "Oh my God, what would my mother do if they didn't have me around anymore?" Let me tell you, coke, Franzia.

fucking tennis instructors. Get the fuck out of here. You ain't the center of the universe. Do you want me to have a kid because you're afraid I'll be lonely? And she's like, well, I think our bond is changing and not in a bad way, but in an evolving way. And now I want you to share that bond with someone else. What I'm trying to say is,

You're too much for me, mother. Oh, oh, oh. She's like, maybe I'll get more air if there's another person you could be suffocating. Well, I'm shocked by this response. I didn't even know how she came up to this. There wasn't even a PowerPoint involved. Where is my baby that threw a tantrum when I suggested there would be another sibling? Where has she gone?

So she goes, "And what about Keeley?" "Well, I think I did it backwards, you know, would you accept a baby? Would you accept Keeley? Ha ha ha ha ha! Accept them both." So she's like, "Oh, yeah, okay, Wolf, I- that's great, Mom." "Okay! So, TL;DR, you don't know how to dip snacks and you're okay with me having a baby." "Got it!" Still have little friends. The end! So back in Augusta,

they are going to the house. So they're saying bye to Reba. And so it's like, wow, she can talk. And Kyle's like, I am obsessed with your mom. Love her. - You know, Sutton, Garcelle and Avi are like just shaking their heads. - Like as if Kyle comes and takes the mom's side immediately.

So Kyle's like, um, these people are expecting us, right? And Sutton says, yeah, my good friend, who knows the current owners, arranged it. So we're going to be good. We're going to be good, guys. Now, this was the hill. We would ride our bikes down this hill. It just seemed so big at the time. So big. But now look at it. It's just not such a big hill. This is like a scene out of, like, Forrest Gump. No, it's not. So Garcelle's...

It's literally nothing like Forrest Gump. There's just a hill. I don't know. Was there a famous hill scene in Forrest Gump? So Garcelle says, this is the part of the trip I'm not looking forward to because it's the last place she saw her dad. And I don't know what the emotions are going to be like.

And that scares me. So then they pull up to this house and there's this like sweet family that's there and everything. And it's this lady and they say hello and, and Garza and son is now getting understandably kind of spooked out and she's getting nervous and she's getting choked up. Like it's, it's pretty intense. Right. This is intense. It reminded me of that married to medicine where they went to heavenly's childhood. I thought that, Oh my God, that was so rough.

And she's like, this was my room. I didn't have any windows. And I mean, I was just so sad. She was like locked in her room. I mean, it was just so sad. Okay. So anyway, so I'm already sad because this story is sad. Plus the heavenly memories in there. So anyway, they go up and they meet the owner and they go in to start seeing it. And she's like, I'm setting track. Nice to meet you, Maureen. I'm just going to warn you. There might be...

Some tears. And Maureen's like, it's okay. Just walk through the house. You know, take as much time as you can. Just, you're wearing running mascara. Just stay away from the white couch. That's all I request. Maureen's like, listen, I just watched This Is Us last night. So don't even worry about tears. They have been flowing for 24 hours. Hello there. This is a two-part recap. Okay. This is the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

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Welcome to the offensive line. You guys, on this podcast, we're going to make some picks, talk some s**t, and hopefully make you some money in the process. I'm your host, Annie Agarne.

So here's how this show is going to work, okay? We're going to run through the weekly slate of NFL and college football matchups, breaking them down into very serious categories like No offense. No offense, Travis Kelsey, but you got to step up your game if Pat Mahomes is saying the Chiefs need to have more fun this year. We're also handing out a series of awards and making picks for the top storylines surrounding the world of football. Awards like the He May Have a Point Award for the wide receiver that's most justifiably bitter.

Is it Brandon Ayuk, Tee Higgins, or Devontae Adams? Plus, on Thursdays, we're doing an exclusive bonus episode on Wondery Plus, where I share my fantasy football picks ahead of Thursday night football and the weekend's matchups. Your fantasy league is as good as locked in. Follow the offensive line on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can access bonus episodes and listen ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus.