#2767 Crappy Hour 3/17/25: Dorit V Debts, Jax V Cocaine, Carl V Literature, Bravoleb Pods
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Well, hello everybody and welcome to Crappy Hour! It is Monday, March 17th, 2025. I'm Ronnie Karam, and that over there is Mr. Ben Mandelker, the handsome, the gorgeous, the talented, the thin, the well-coiffed, the mucho-haired Ben Mandelker. How you doing today, baby? I am great, thanks. How are you doing?

Good. I'm freezing cold. But other than that, I'm cold. I'm great. I don't even mind really being cold. I kind of like it. I'm getting used to it. We were in Toronto and Minneapolis and it was cold there. So I'm just going to get used to it.

Yeah, we were in all the cold weather climates up to this very morning. And then we flew all the way in to L.A. from Toronto on an airline I had never even heard of called Porter Air, which was very nice. I liked it because it reminded me of Sutton's daughter named Porter. And they have a little cute raccoon as their mascot. They didn't have any running water in their bathroom to wash your hands after you peed, but that's okay. You know, there was water that dripped through the window.

onto me, which was alarming. But, you know, it was actually quite comfortable and it was a fun experience. Did you notice, though, that they made so many announcements on that flight?

It was nonstop. They wouldn't shut the fuck up. And because we were coming from Toronto, they have to do everything in English and then you hear it in French too. Okay? Oh my God. Just shut up. And they wake you up too. They make you listen. And the lady made me take out my headphones to listen to her spiel about the seatbelts and shit. I'm like, lady, I've heard the spiel. Okay, I get it. You need your attention. Here's your attention. Okay, you're doing a great job. Okay, I understand about seatbelts. Now tell me in French. Okay.

Oh my God, I was trying to sleep. I have four hours of sleep and I'm sitting there on the plane trying to sleep. And I was like, every 10 minutes is like,

Ladies and gentlemen, we will be coming down the aisle shortly to be telling you about coming down the aisle shortly. And it's like, ladies and gentlemen, we want you to know there will be Wi-Fi. And you're like, okay, you can pass that. And they're like, ladies and gentlemen, the Wi-Fi is not working. There'll be a reset in 20 minutes. It was like, nonsense.

We had to hear about that Wi-Fi longer than the Wi-Fi worked. The Wi-Fi worked for 20 minutes out of five hours. And they talked about it for four fucking hours. Oh, my God. It was nonsense. And then at the gate, the gate was even worse because it was like every three seconds, every single gate stopped.

It was, they had full volume. It was like, "Paging Clary Johnson, John Paul Bierson, Claire Batchouli." And then it was like, "Vous, vous, vous l'en choisit." It was like, it was like every single gate. It was like, there was a gate that was down the hall.

And they had the volume for that gate over where we were, gate A11. And we were at A16. It was like noise this entire time. But otherwise, I enjoyed it. They got us today, that's for sure. They did. But overall, super fun time. Good to be back. And good to be talking crap about some Bravo headlines. Let's get into them, shall we? It was a pretty busy week on Bravo since two weeks ago. I mean, for one thing, on a show that I've never watched or never given a shit about, Sheena was on it.

So that was a big surprise. Everyone's like, oh my God, Sheena turned out to be in The Masked Singer. And my only question is, how did you not know it was Sheena? I mean, wasn't every song just like... I know. I'd like to take one of every one of the prime cocktails.

imagine if she was on just a masked waitress you imagine you go to sir and like a someone in like a bee costume comes up you're like who is that waitress i swear i recognize their voice like hi it's sheena i'm your waitress it's always they might as well be masked as waitresses sir for for the good they do

Sheena had a very, very big past two weeks since we last checked in because Sheena took a photo with Lady Gaga. It's the time of the year when our Bravo celebrities are taking photos with people. You know, last year we had Teresa with Taylor Swift. That was 2024. 2025 gave us James Kennedy with the Tate Brothers and Sheena with Lady Gaga. So,

sheena then went on to shenanigans this isn't written down here on our sheet i just remember this right now ronnie but did you see she had a clip of her and she was on i think it was shenanigans or she was talking to our friend kiki and i forget who the other person was i feel like we knew who they were but i'm sorry i just remember kiki and uh she was like oh my god i had like the craziest day like i went i was like backstage and i saw lady gaga i was like after saturday night live and like i walked up to her and like all i wanted to do was just like say hi i wasn't even gonna take a photo at all

I will absolutely not gonna take a photo. And then Lady Gaga was like, oh my God, it's Sheena. And I was like, oh my God, you're excited to see me? I'm excited to see you. Like singer to singer, you know what I'm saying? And then people were taking photos and they're like, we have to airdrop this to you. And then she grabbed my arm and she like led me to the party and was like, you guys, you guys all have to meet Sheena. It was like the best day of my life. I'm a star. I'm a star. I'm a star.

A lot of people met Lady Gaga this week. I saw Lady Gaga all over the Instagram. Lady Gaga was like, you know what? I'm back. I'm just going to go hug everybody on their Instagram this week. That's all I'm going to do.

Yeah, well, you know, Sheena and Lady Gaga did both have cameo appearances on the same show, I believe, a.k.a. The Hills. So it all comes back together. Victoria in the chat says, I'm honestly so happy for Sheena. And honestly, honestly, I am too. That's so cool. And I am jealous of everyone who got to meet Lady Gaga. We were not on her press tour. I don't know who can watch The Masked Singer. I call that show The Earplugged Viewer.

because it's like who's wearing the earplugs me it's me every week and bless her heart um so that was that um for those of you who missed it carl ratke is coming out with a biography it's called cake eater it's like gosh people wonder where the name cake eater came from it's from uh people who grew up you know privileged people think i have so much privilege you know in pittsburgh my neighborhood in pittsburgh

People would call the privileged kids who have everything cake eaters. Well, I'm not a cake eater, so I made a book called Cake Eater. Yeah.

It's about misconceptions about me, Carl Radke. Ha. One misconception is that I don't like weight being put on me. But guess what? I want you to put your weight on me. Ha. The other misconception is that I like hard hugs. I do not like hard hugs. I like soft hugs. Soft hugs. But I want them to be long. Long soft hugs. Ha. Well,

So that's always fun. I'm glad Carl's dipping into the world of literature. Yeah, good for him. We also mentioned on our live show that... Of course, I'm getting a phone call. Stop it. That Jax Taylor has a new podcast called In the Mind of a Man. Because his big confession since we last checked in on Crappy Hour, Jax has a cocaine addiction. I know, I know. Everyone just...

Just relax. It's shocking news, but he has a cocaine addiction. It's very difficult to hear and process. Well, let's just hope it's not as strong as his addiction to telling the truth. Yeah, he came out and, you know, he did it in a good way because he really didn't try to profit off of it at all. Speaking of profiting off addiction, he was like, you know what? I have a coke addiction and a new podcast. This is going on tour. It's like, wow, way to sell it.

You know, get it all out there at the same time. Maybe you should rename his podcast from In the Mind of a Man to In the Nose of a Man. I don't think either one of his are working too well. So there's a lot of space.

yeah, so, so he's shocking the world. And then the other podcast that we've mentioned, but you may have missed is that, um, brand from Roni has a new podcast out called see below. Oh,

And she made an Instagram with it and she just took wacky pictures of herself. It's like, oh my God, please see below. And it's just a closeup of her tongue coming out of her mouth like that. So that sounds terrifying. I'm sure it will be full of lies, which is fine by me. I love Scamanda. So that's coming out, but they're not the only ones. Have you read the onslaught that have been coming in ever since those two announced?

Wait, there's more than that? There's more. There's even more. That's a lot. That's already a non-slot. There is one. I'm going to look it up right now. Oh, I see one already. Gia Giudice. Gia Giudice is getting a podcast. It's called Casual Chaos. Gia Giudice.

That's what I think of when I see her. Casual chaos. What about bored chaos? That's the vibe. She doesn't even give off chaos. She should just call her podcast bored because that's how she always looks.

it's gonna be all right you guys today on my podcast teresa is really taking a lot of from melissa and i really don't approve of not being loved properly by my uncle joe who i loved with all my heart i can't i really can't we also have a new one coming out from that most magnetic personality on bravo

Michelle Lolly, also known as Michelle. I don't even know how to say her name because she dropped the lolly. So it's Michelle Sonny. I Sonny. I don't know. Sonny. She puts the eye insane, but then she has another eye. It's S-A-N-I-E-I. So double eyes. She has one.

uh my name is michelle she's kind of a pod person so i'm surprised she hasn't had a podcast yet it's very oh what are we talking about today today we're talking about jessie um her um her podcast is aptly named the pursuit of sassiness

Has she begun the pursuit? How far is she on that journey? The pursuit of sassiness. Oh my God. The pursuit of sassiness. Just me, Michelle, your sassiest best friend from TV. The sassiest girl on TV. Michelle.

Me, Michelle, Michelle Saniyay talking about, I mean, by the way, I feel like our impersonation of her is that she's kind of like AI generated, right? Her voice. So it's of course like her last name is so AI generated sounding, Saniyay.

Yeah.

This is here you go. Now, this is going to be the best one. And oddly enough, it's called Come Together, which I think is the most awkward title for a podcast from these two because they literally want to make people think they're coming all the time with the people, with other people. It's the most exciting. Let me tell you, they're really handing podcasts to very charismatic people. We've got Gia Giudice. We've got Michelle Lawley.

And now we've got the hottest couple in town, Aaron and Gabe. Aaron and Abe. Lachey. No, not Lachey. What's her last name? Leaky. Leaky? Leachy. Leachy. Leachy. Leachy. I feel like we also, we did a podcast episode on just how to say her last name. Leachy. Leachy. Aaron Leachy. Aaron is, yeah, she's...

God, I can't wait to hear that. Hi, everyone. I'm Aaron. This is Abe the Babe. Hi, Abe. And call. Call.

What was that video? Did you send it to me? Who sent me the video of her cooking recently where she was like, I think it was our friend, our friend Amanda sent it, who it was like, it was Aaron making a sandwich, like a grilled cheese sandwich with Gouda or something. She's like, here's what I like to do. I take Gouda and I put it on bread and then I toast it.

Aaron, first episode, Cackling Hacks. Second episode, Bitcoin. Also, Aaron's been all over the news. She's been on like, you know, news tickers or whatever, talking about how she's going to overcome tariffs for Mezcal. We would do anything to bring Mezcal to the United States. People haven't even tasted Mezcal in America, and now there's already a tariff on it. Yeah.

So good luck to everybody. Not going to listen to any of you, but good luck. So speaking of Erin, Erin has also been really trying to get Lindsay Hubbard on Real Housewives of New York City. She said in an interview, oh, my God, I would love to have Lindsay. I'm going to totally try to get her in there because, you know, I'm a producer of Real Housewives of New York. It's everyone else.

As the most fascinating cast member of a show that hasn't been working for the past two seasons, I'm going to pull my weight and try and get Lindsay Hubhouse on there. What do you think about it? Would she be a good one? I don't think Lindsay would fit in because Lindsay's entertaining. So I think that might be a, that's just not like the right culture for Roni. But that was, that was me being sarcastic. I know. I actually don't think that Lindsay would fit in because the thing is this, it's, I'm actually glad you brought this up.

because every show has like a different energy and when people cross over when people cross into real housewives or real housewives cross into like the youth quote-unquote youth oriented shows it feels weird so for instance when ashley was dating luke it like didn't even make sense because ashley is i think like 36 or so 36 37 and

So she's actually younger than several cast members on Summer House or as a contemporary. But like Ashley partying in like the Summer House or Winter House is disorienting because she's a real housewife and it doesn't feel like that should be bridged. And so it's a weird thing. And the reason why I brought this up is because Erin is a real housewife. I think Erin is 36 or 37. And I was just thinking about it.

Like there are several people on these shows who are much older than Aaron. And yet it's weird to think of that like Shep is so much older than Aaron, right? But Aaron's only 36. I don't know what I'm trying to get. This is the four hours of sleep speaking here. But the point is... Well, I mean, I'm listening to you. The point is that like it's weird to think about... Like the reason why I can't have Lindsay on the same show as Aaron is because...

Lindsay is from a Bravo sphere where you're 36 or 37 and you still seem like a kid. Like someone who's just partying at 22. So if you put her on Roni, we suddenly have to face the fact that

either Aaron is much younger than her vibe is or Lindsay is older than her vibe. And it doesn't compute for me. You know, actually, it computes perfectly for me. I think she's just what that show needs. Because what you're saying, I get. Like taking someone from one of the youth-oriented shows. But they're aged out of that show. And also, Real Housewives of New York is kind of like a youth. They're trying to make it like a more youthful version of Housewives. So I think Lindsay would fit. And also, she's

She's being an she's an influencer now. I was going to say trying to be, but she's an influencer now. So she would fit right in with those people. And she's also unhinged enough to make that interesting. Like, I'd love to see her go against the comment you just put up is Lindsay Hubbard is Avery's grandmother. I'm also really happy the comments are finally showing up on the bottom instead of right over our foreheads. Yeah, I like it.

But yeah, I think she'd be perfect for it. That show needs all the help it can get. And she needs to go away from summer house. Like summer house. She's too good for, she's, she's too good for summer house. Now she's like top shelf summer house and summer house is going lower and lower. So I say go to the housewives of New York. Yeah. Yeah. And she'll have a baby. It'll be sort of weird to having a baby on summer house. Speaking of the age thing, you know what I was thinking about? Uh,

Did you know that Whitney from Southern charm is older than Mauricio? Isn't that crazy? Yeah. He's Whitney's an elderly. He's 56 years old, which places him like, I was trying to think he's older than Giselle. He's older than Mauricio. He's not older than PK. I obviously had some time to do some comparison. I was like, maybe there's someone fun I can find. Cause like a big thing that I, that we once thought about was that she knows older than Aaron. And that's weird. Yeah.

Like, it's weird to think that Sheena is older than certain Real Housewives, right? Or like how...

Avril Lavigne is older than Lady Gaga. You know, it's like weird, weird conceptual things. So, well, some things I can understand being like, wow, Aaron, because she looked, you know, you don't know how old she is because she acts weird. I mean, I don't know. But Whitney, I mean, Whitney, I've never looked at Whitney and been like, wow, what a youthful chap. I wonder. I know. But like, I don't care then. If you told me Whitney was as old as like Chita Rivera, I'd be like, OK, like I would believe. I mean, I don't know.

It's weird. No, it's weird that Whitney is... It's like he's old. He's definitely old for Bravo, quoting Bravo. But I think that being on the show where everyone is still just going out and partying, it still is weird to think that he is...

that like mauricio like mauricio like he is a he is a senior to mauricio yeah he's like he's like a generation above mauricio um charlotte says whitney looks older than patricia agreed you know patricia knows how to wand and do all that you know like patricia told me the first time she met me she said you should do botox i said i do botox and she says

you couldn't tell it's like okay you know so i'm surprised that whitney has been able to age like that with a mother who's constantly like uh have you tried a red light therapy i mean do something jesus christ whitney it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

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is I think every singer says about 30 years old. That means that every singer is six years, six or seven years younger than Aaron Leach. That is wild. That is weird. But you know what? I don't really think about age.

because I don't know why I'm upset. You know, that's why. So I've stopped thinking about it. I don't care about anybody's age anymore. And also with all the fillers and the Botox and stuff, you just can't tell because people like Lexi from Summer House, she's so young, but she gets all the, you know, the lip and the, and the tox and all that stuff. And so, I don't know if you told me she was 40, I'd believe it. And I don't mean that in a mean way. Like she looks, she looks bad. She looks great, but everybody kind of gets that same like plumpy, you know,

look so that you can't tell how old I am. So, listen, I've watched too much Housewives to start worrying about age. I'm not worrying about it now, that's for sure. Well, this concludes Ben Mandelker's Ages. Aren't they crazy? Segment four.

March 2025. Whose age difference is crazier? Yours. Am I right, guys? So some other stuff going on is Tamara Judge posted. Let me open this link. Open link URL. Okay. No, I copied link URL. God, you know what? When am I going to learn how to use the internet? Guys, anybody? Can anybody explain the internet? So Tamara had another tantrum.

And she posted an Instagram, a tantrum, a possum-trum. And she posted an Instagram that was like, you know what?

And somebody wrote, oh my God, Tamara, are you quitting OC? And she said, yeah, I am. Fuck yeah, I am. And of course, our speculation was she must have gotten into a fight with Gretchen and Gretchen won the fight. And then Tamara ran away barefoot screaming, you'll never see me again. Which is what she did when that happened.

That swimsuit design lady came after her. And that is what happened. They were in New Orleans filming and she got in a fight with Gretchen and Gretchen won. And so Tamara ran away screaming and crying and quit. And I think she's already shooting the show again. I don't think she really quit. Tamara isn't quitting that show. She's got leaks to fix in her house in Big Bear.

Not only is she not quitting, I actually don't want her to quit. She's a great villain and she has a job to do. OC is white hot right now and she cannot step away from it. And we're not the only ones who said that.

Uh, Teddy told Tamara that because they did an episode of Two Teas in a Pod. Teddy came back. Teddy has had her surgery. They've still found more tumors. It's a very scary situation with what's going on with Teddy, but she's like, fuck it. I'm showing up to work. I'm not going to let this get me down. And good for her. Good for Teddy. And Teddy was like, I...

I showed up to work, Tamara. You need to get back to work. And I really applaud Teddy for scolding Tamara because Teddy's dealing with a lot more shit than Tamara's dealing with. And Tamara's the one being like, oh my God, there's real stuff going on. And Teddy's like, don't use me as a crutch for why you're quitting the show. Get back to work. And Tamara should get back to work.

Yeah. And also, you know, Teddy, no matter what shape Teddy's in, Teddy's going to be like, listen, girl, Real Housewives of Orange County is the reason our podcast is so big. One of us needs to be on TV and we know it's not going to be me. Get your ass back to work. Get to it. We have a contract.

Yup. Exactly. So it looks like she got back to work. So we don't know what happened on that new Orleans trip, but obviously, I mean, look, now we are way more interested than we ever thought we'd be in this new Orleans trip. I mentioned, Oh, you guys didn't hear it yet because I mentioned this on our Rony recap and we're not releasing that just yet. So one of our listeners was down in new Orleans and saw the cast and

in the airport flying back home and was on the flight with them. And we have Intel. Intel, as our friends on Bitch Sesh would say, boots on the ground. So is everyone ready for an AV presentation? Because they sent us videos and pictures. Well, first, let me share a picture. So present image file. Image file, okay. So they took a picture at walk-in.

Okay, it's coming up. Okay, this is a picture. So they said Gretchen and Heather on the plane looking very salty towards each other. Let's see. Let me read what the actual email said while you're all looking at this picture. Wait, why do you say they look salty at each other? They're just like looking at their phones, aren't they? No, no, no. She said Gretchen and Heather didn't speak the whole flight and you two were the first people I thought to tell.

So this is evident. Yeah, but how are you going to speak when the person is sitting in front of you? Gretchen is sitting in front of Heather. I'm just reporting. But yeah, it is funny, though. I love seeing this picture of Gretchen and Heather together, both looking down at their phones, probably like texting people like, would you believe what Gretchen said today? And Gretchen saying, hey, we.

However, in text. So that's then someone's asking if they're on Southwest. No, they're not on Southwest. By the way, Southwest is dead to me with their new rules. Listen, I put up with your bullshit. A, B and C group. I paid for the little early bird special to get on the plane. You're you're testing me, Southwest. You're fucking with me. I'm not. Porter Airlines have new rules are going to charge you for luggage. Fuck you. I know it's not about Southwest, but just so just while I have the chance. Fuck you guys.

Okay. So anyway, they're not on the trash airlines. Okay. By the way, Porter airlines was good. They just were, they just talked to had a great bootable. Yeah. Porter airlines. Yeah. Oh wow. But yeah, they, the raccoon, I love the raccoon. I don't know why they chose a raccoon as their mascot. Cause I'm like, I was like the fuck. No, no, they had like a little raccoon. Did you see the raccoon?

No, I didn't even notice the raccoon. I never saw it. Raccoon was great. But you know what's so weird is I didn't notice it was a raccoon, but I was watching the film Wild Robot on the plane, which was great. I cried. I laughed. Then I cried some more. Then I laughed some more. Then I cried some more. Then I was like, this isn't realistic. So that was great. And there was a raccoon in it. Wow. What a wow. Wow.

So I don't know why Southwest is the point. They are on Delta, but I know why Heather's pissed because these aren't like real first class seats. These are those ones where you pay for first class, but they're just like slightly bigger and you don't get shit. Yeah. She's like, where is my pod?

She's like, the fact that I have to sit with another person adjacent to me, I will adjudicate the adjacency. So actually, if you're wondering what Heather Bros mood was, it's hard to know, but we also have video. So here comes the video, everyone. Let me remove the photo. We have two videos. The videos, you can't hear anything, but you see Heather.

um talking and she's so heather so please enjoy here's the first video i muted it because you don't need to hear the sound of ambient airport noise so here we go and we'll try to we'll try to figure out what she's saying okay

Can you see it? Here she is. She's talking. And I said, very clearly, I do not want a hurricane. I do not drink hurricanes. And you know what they said to me? They said, you will have the hurricane. And I said, well, I'm not going to have that. I didn't sign up to have the hurricane and I'm not going to have a hurricane. They're disgusting. They said, oh, you got to have the hurricane. Well, I think it's my turn.

that was perfect it was actually the perfect amount of time too for that clip I really went someplace I was I don't know I was not doing a crappy hour in that moment that moment I actually channeled Heather okay here comes the other video oh there's another spot

If you ever- - But it's the same thing, right? - No, no, now she's pointing more. See, look, come over here, stand over here. I'm gonna rewind it. I just love that she made her stand. I'm turning this one over 'cause I missed the first part. She's, "Okay, whoever you are, you cannot have an autograph. And if you want an autograph, let me tell you something. Wendy Malick doesn't even give those out. So you should be so lucky to talk to me. Get over here." Okay.

Let me tell you something. I give autographs, but not in an airport. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Airport, no autograph. Street, yes autograph. Are you talking to me? I'm not listening to you. You are talking to me. You don't even know what I had to deal with in New Orleans. I said, why are we starting this here? These are picnic tables. This isn't a classy restaurant. Why are we eating something called beignets? These are ben-booves. These are ben-booves.

And I love that she's being so actor-y. She keeps drawing the person back in. I think she's trying, it looks like she's practicing a fight that she's going to have, doesn't it? It's like, listen, Tamara, you don't run away. You stay. You deal with the problem.

You know what I love? You know what hand movement of hers I love? I love when she does a series of points and then she does that weird kind of like slow motion backhand where she sort of moves her hand as a full paddle slowly back and then sort of does a wave with it. Watch. Here she is. Point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point

Backhand. Explain it. Bring it home. Bring it home. Elbow point. Now ignore what the poor person says. Just stare at them. And now the poor person's trying to do a crab. She's trying to do claw hand. She's like, okay, let me see your claw hand. All right. I will let you do claw hand to me and I will tell you if you can do it properly. Go.

This is your cue. This is when you do the claw hand. Do it now. No, no, that's not right. What are you shaking your fist at me? What are you at a protest? What are you going to burn your bra? This is not a claw hand. I could narrate this for two hours. It's just so Heather standing in the middle of the airport making a huge scene. Just the pointing and the...

- And I just love when she pulls her. - People are trying to pass. That is funny, she pulls her out of the way. There's a man with a mop. Please do not stop him. All right. - And I said, okay, stand over here, closer to the rich person. Okay, now slow backhand. 'Cause you know in that moment when she does that backhand, you know she's making fun of, like, oh, you're so smart, Gretchen. Oh, so Gretchen. So she tells me, she pulls me and she says, you,

you stand right over here and I said, oh, you're so clever with your stage directions. Well, guess what? I put in the time to work with Mandy Malek and you didn't. And I had to go through that. So I don't want to hear it from you. I love that people are so used to being filmed in public that even the guy who's pushing the cleaning cart is aware that he's being filmed. Watch him pass and look straight into the camera. Like, really? By the way, could there be a better visual metaphor? He's like, hey guys, this shit's good, right? Yeah.

he's like look at him he's like look at the camera she's doing her uh doing her elbow thing Kara in the comments says we are getting a bonus bonus yeah we're doing someone else's airport snap I mean I could sit here and just I'm really Heather man yeah Heather all right great work

What else do we have? Okay, so some of the other big news with Tracy Tudor from Million Dollar Listing LA went on to...

What did she go on first? Jeff? I guess she went on Jeff first. I think she went on Watch What Happens too, right? I was going to say, where else can she go on to? Those two. I was like, I don't know what, I don't know what, I don't know, like, it's not like she's going on Extra or anything like that. She was on Nightline with Ted Koppel. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, she was probably on Jeff and then, was she on, because she wasn't on Watch What Happens Live any time recently, was she? I don't know. I get it all confused in my head.

So many things I don't watch. She's been on. Just kidding, everybody. Okay, so she went on Jeff. And you know Jeff, messy ass Jeff. He knows how to generate those headlines for everybody. He is great at this. Yeah, he is really good at getting himself in the middle of the conversation. I mean, I have the guy credit. He has a skill. He does. And it's mess. His skill is mess. Pure mess. So she went on there and she was talking about what a phony Dorit is.

And basically, Dorit is not paying her bills. Well, anybody who's been reading the real hard news of the day knows that Dorit and PK don't pay their bills. They don't have any money. Why is anybody working for these people? They're not going to fucking pay you. Okay?

So she claims a member of Dorit's glam squad was paid after she called her out for stiffing them on an episode of Jeff Lewis's messy ass show called Mess Mess with Jeff Mess Lewis. After seeing the 48-year-old...

Star had appeared on Watch What Happens Live where she slammed Tracy's claims as attention-seeking and accused hairstylist Chris Dillon of overcharging her. Oh, girl, you're learning from the Erica playbook here. That's what Erica did. She's like, oh, they wanted to be paid when they were trying to overcharge me, so I called the feds on them and had them thrown in prison.

Yeah, I think I think he was just charging. I think he was like, hey, I cut your hair. I did your hair. I went to New York. I was there for three days. You're supposed to pay for my hotel and you haven't paid. You haven't paid me anything. That's not overcharging. That's charging. You have to pay people for their services. Yes. And then she accused him of basically using her credit card and all this shit. She's accusing him of really shady shit. So, you know, he came out and said she's a liar. And then she's Tracy. Yeah.

tweeted or Instagrammed, I don't know. Guess who got his wire transferred today, though? Tracy wrote in a comment to a clip shared of the Watch What Happens Live episode. After Tracy spoke out, a number of other commenters reacted to the situation, and some targeted the realtor. Who's stalking who on Instagram now, one person asked. And Dorit replied, exactly. Exactly. Read my lips. Exactly.

Now, let's not forget, I mean, the tier of the makeup artists and the hairstylists that sort of circulate around all the Bravo leberties, they are messy as hell. They are so messy. They deserve to be paid for their work, but they are messy, messy, messy, messy. But this is a funny kind of mess because I like that this guy was like, you know what? I'm not getting paid.

So you know who's going to do my, you know who I'm going to take it to? I'm taking it to Tracy, too. She'll get the word out about me. Oh, and then Dorit wrote, Well, apparently, funny, funny, that apparently she's been trying for years and kept getting turned down to get on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Well, maybe this was a last ditched attempt.

I, you know, I would believe that. But I also think it's so funny when when people are on the housewives, they become the meat that they are. They're like the mean girls, right?

of like Bravo. Like they're like, you can't sit with us. You tried to get onto our show. Good luck. And they're always doing that. And the next thing you know, they're fired and dropped. And then they have to sit there knowing that they acted like that. And now they're on the other side of it. Just wait, just wait. Yeah. Just, just you wait, Henry Higgins. So a commenter said, Tracy Tudor, who even are you? You look like you're trying to look like Dorit. You wish. And,

How much jealousy do you carry within yourself to kick a woman when she's down? You know, I hate that. Kick a woman or kick somebody when they're down. That's how you play soccer. Nobody yells at those people. That's what you do. There's something on the ground. You kick it. It's like when you see litter. What are you going to do? Pick it up? No, you could hurt your back. Kick it. Okay, this is Bravo. Listen, this is a sport. Listen, they have a point. Okay, Dorit.

This is someone who lost $60,000 in a big lots. Okay. It's a tough time for her. You don't kick a woman down after she's, after she brought $60,000 of cash into a big lots and got it stolen right out of her cart while she was browsing the impulse buys. Okay. I was robbed, robbed of $10,000 straight out of my target shopping cart, my home goods shopping, my, my, you know,

joanne fabric shopping cart where was i don't know it was ten thousand dollars i was stooked r.i.p oh all right r.i.p to joanne joanne's fabrics of course um i'm sorry oh sorry you're surprised no i was gonna make a really stupid comment and i'm just i want to hear it i love stupid comments i was just gonna say i'm surprised we i feel like bravo is the sort of place that like we would have met like the we would have met joanne from joanne's fabrics like we would have met the person who's like

So my claim to fame is that my dad started Joanne's Fabrics, you know. Forever 21 is also also filed for bankruptcy, I think, today or recently. So so much for the wardrobe for many of these shows. Forever not 21 anymore.

That's what I've always called this store. So Reality Blurb is giving us a lot today because we've already read from them. Oh, by the way, we were just reading from Reality Blurb. So thanks, Reality Blurb. But also, guess what? More stories because it's to read. And I really do not like to read.

So people were accusing Dorit and PK of just faking this divorce storyline because it really doesn't seem to be happening. And then they're seen together all the time looking happy. And Dorit, you know, it's rumored that Dorit was going to be fired. Well, literally every year that Dorit's been on, it's been rumored that she's getting fired because Dorit really doesn't do a lot. She does. She does a lot for us. Like we enjoy it.

making fun of Dorit a lot. But she doesn't do much on the show. So every year it's rumored she's going to get fired. And so every time any storyline happens with Dorit, she's accused of falsifying the storyline like the robberies

The multiple robberies, stuff like that. So now they're being accused of faking this divorce. So now they're really upping their game because PK was spotted in New York when Dorit was doing Watch What Happens Live. So people are like, oh, my God, he's there supporting Dorit. So they're faking it. So PK...

Yeah, and there is video from TikTok, which I'm going to show. It's going to be kind of janky because it's embedded within the Reality Blurb website. But I'm going to show it to you because...

I do not believe that PK and this woman are an item because you see them and you see she's doing that, that like that kind of like looking around the room, kind of like little dance thing that you do when someone's trying to talk to you and you're pretending like you kind of can't even see them. Like, sorry, I'm dancing. I don't see people around me. And she's doing it so clearly to avoid him.

And also, by the way, keep an eye out for her. But as an extra bonus, this is sort of like follows up. Like this is like a complimentary thing that complements what you pointed out with the Heather Dubrow video, how that guy with a dumpster who went by Heather Dubrow looks at the camera. In this case, we have another guy who goes by the camera and he gives this look. He gives such a cartoony look. He goes, he has a look on his face. That's like, why are you on up?

it's a real special treat i need to see it okay ready all right here we are some ticky tocky let's make it big let's make it real big let's make it full screen babe can you see it babe

Yeah. A lot of old guys in this nightclub. What is this? A lot of old guys. What's that place they used to go to in New York? Real Housewives of New York? Beautique. This is the new boutique. Oh, my God. PK's dancing really well. He looks great. It's Diddy. It moved on. Okay, wait. PK sure looks different.

Here, wait, I'm gonna show you again. I'm gonna try to go, okay, this is just a child. - It's like some little kid in a baseball cap. - I pressed play and it went to a child. Okay, it said, I hate, okay, here we go. So, for, oh, every time you pause it, it puts that child up. It puts that child up. Okay, so there she is, and there's the guy who's really upset.

I'm going to hit the loop. She's just dancing. She's just trying to avoid him. You see? That's the whole video? That's the whole video. That's the spotting PK? It's some old guy talking to some women. What is so scandalous about this video? Watch the guy turn around with a scowl. Did you see the guy turn around with a scowl? That's kind of the best part. Yeah, like that guy's not used to getting turned down. Please. It's not your first time at this rodeo, sir. This guy, look at him.

It doesn't have good controls. It's not good to. The point is that this is not this is not an affair. If you ask me, this is a person who got cornered by PK and wants him to go away. Yeah, that's what I'm getting to. What is this nightclub? I need to know what this nightclub is because it's scaring me. Look at those. Look at the design. Look at the things in the ceiling that look like lampshades from the 70s that are coming down to suck your brains out.

Yeah, it's and there's and and by the way this entire thing is happening like PK is cornered her right by the bathrooms - you see the little bathroom sign She's like I just want to go the bathroom. Would you like a lollipop? I take dollars One of the only people still taking cash here, babe. This is a terrible video Was this the Planet Hollywood opening? You know, probably would just revamp reopen and the reason why I asked that is because the guy who's scowling is wearing a Planet Hollywood t-shirt and

that they just need another chance to suck? Who needed a revamp of Planet Hollywood? That place sucked. Yeah, well, I loved it when I was in ninth grade, but also if the revamp includes PK at the opening, I don't know, it's fun. It's really stretching the idea of Hollywood. We've fallen very, very hard. Okay, so in other news, VPR starts shooting the reboot soon.

And some of this cast has been spotted. So I figure we can go through this and look at some of the new cast. You want to? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I'm coming right over. Okay, so while you're pulling that up, also in other Vanderpump news, Lisa Vanderpump continues to win. She was just given her own casino in Vegas. She's partnering with Caesars to open the Vanderpump Casino, darling. Swinging chandeliers, nickel lane nickel machines, nickel lane, as we'll call them.

An entire casino dedicated to Lisa Vanderpump. I am scared. It's like the tuna tartar slots. They're like slot machines, but they're stuck inside of a cage, inside of another cage, inside of another cage with a light and a crystal coming out of it. I'm not really sure about that, but I hope the whole casino smells like animal shit.

Like her house. And there's like little tiny gnats flying everywhere because of all the animal boop. Real quickly, Carrie in the comments asks, are we going to talk about James and the Douche Brothers? We talked about it a little bit at one of our live shows over the weekend. And all that we need to know is that James...

pretending like he had no idea who the Tate brothers are. I know who the Tate brothers are. Okay. I am not part of the manosphere and I am also not into human trafficking, but we know who these people are. And James cannot act like he doesn't know James. Come on. For those of you who don't know, convicted of human trafficking, disgusting pieces of shit, let off by Trump. For what reason? Nobody knows. Cause they like him.

and unleashed back into the world. And they were at, I don't know if it was a gig that DJ James Kennedy was playing at or whatever, but he was there, and then he had to come out with a big, long apology after posting a picture with them saying, oh, I didn't even know these guys. You know, I mean, I didn't know who they were. They said they had heard of my music, so we took a picture and...

they were they posted the next day uh this guy followed us for an hour and begged us for a picture until we gave it to him so off james you know yeah still still the same old off from james you're under fire for abuse allegations with your girlfriend you get dumped and then you take a picture with human brothers like how many chances does james get honestly yeah it's over it's done it's done i don't think you come back from that uh well you do just

Like not on websites that I'm going to anytime soon. So anyway, meaning like the super right wing, you're certainly not coming back to mother Jones. I'll tell you that. Good luck ever getting another cover story on salon.

Exactly. Okay, let's look at the new cast of... I almost said the cast and crew. We don't have to look at the crew. I mean, we like the crew, but... We can look at the cast of Vanderpump Rules. So we have... This is from the U.S. Sun. And Vanderpump Rules' new cast revealed. So we have...

um there's a group photo of a bunch of people in front of the surf sign in fact i see the person although in the back he was uh or they were the uh host at schwartz and sandys and it looks like they're back now in the sir they've moved over into sir world right yeah and they're real sweet i met them at schwartz and sandys when i went there um so the first person we're getting is demianas demiana i think i don't know but i'm assuming demiana simiana

Who has a resemblance to Sheena Shea poses in her soaring form. This girl does not have a resemblance to Sheena Shea. She's got long brown hair. But otherwise, I don't see it. She does, however, have the face we were talking about before, which is just so much injections and Botox. It looks like, how old is this girl? Is she 20 or is she 50? I don't know. Like, I literally don't know.

Is this Jamie Presley? Is this just like AI? I can't tell. I can't tell either, but I'm going to love her. I can tell you that much. Then we see a clip, a picture. Oh, should we be putting this on? Oh, yeah. Let me do that. Let me get to it. Yeah. Screen share. I'm doing a lot of AV today. I'm like, one moment, sir. Oh, yeah. There you have it. Okay. Yeah. So that's her. Okay. Flip over to the next.

Okay, scrolling down. Oh, no. Just go up to her and click the little picture icon down at the bottom that says 11, and it'll show you all the pictures. I didn't even see that icon. Okay, we are opening up. Okay, ready? Yeah. Here goes the next one. It's her again. Okay, we have... Okay, Demi, she needs to... Okay, I think she put in contacts to make her eyes like...

She's given, like, White Walker a little bit, you know? Yes. Like, those eyes. And I like that. I like that she could be, like, dead, you know? I'm into that. You got to keep up with the modern times, you know? Make it scary. Just have our first dead person. Don't just make her dead in the eyes. Get a literal dead person to be the new hot actress on this.

Now, we have four people here, and it says, Vanderpump rules future stars, including Venus, Demiana, who we just looked at, and Marcus Johnson. But there's four people here, so...

Venus is Venus the girl. No, Venus is not the girl. It's the dude. It's the dude in the surcap is named Venus. I learned because I looked through these pictures already. So that's the guy. He's like hot, I guess. And then the girl to his left is going to be the new Kristen. I guarantee it because she was already left out of the picture. She's already awkward. I know you haven't seen Inora yet, but this is giving me big time Inora vibes. Once you see it, it'll all make sense. Okay. So let's skip to the next picture.

Demiana again. She looks different in every picture. This is an incredibly stupid picture. She's like, guys, I want to go to the beach, but I want to bring sunflowers. I'm going into sunflowers.

Guys, guys, I want sunflowers near me, but I want a big red flower away from me. And I only want to eat out of ceramic bowls behind her. Guys, should I show my shoulders for this? Okay, I'm going to lower my sleeves so you can see my shoulders more. Okay, for the sunflowers. Okay, and don't worry. There's also something for us, Ben. Go to the next picture. Yay! Marcus Johnson. Okay, fan favorite. Hello. Hello.

Yes, Marcus Johnson. Hottie posing by the pool. We don't really see his face because he's looking up to the sun because he's so young that he's like, give me that vitamin D right into my face. Whereas, you know, the modern cast would be like, son, I'm not going into the sun. Son!

I'm terrified as you fucking should be of the sun. Okay. And also I'm, I'm excited for him because I hope that someone holds up a poster of Jack Taylor in the year of 2025 and be like, this is your future. Just remember that. Okay. Before you get too excited about this body of yours, this is Jack Taylor. Um, now we have, um, Natalie McGuire shares a snap in the itty bitty sir uniforms. So this is, I would not think that she's in Natalie McGuire. That, that,

I feel like McGuire is a chosen stage name. So Lisa Vanderpump, I know she likes her skimpy outfits, but this is not even creative. I like when they had to go to like the, they didn't have Temu then, but what did they have? It was some other discount like Chinatown or whatever, where they were the fashion district downtown, wherever they were, Santee Alley or they went to get their dresses before. But these are just black t-shirts on some, you know, some bad cotton short shorts. I don't get it. Yeah.

And yeah, but I guess that she has to go for something simple because everything else in this picture is so cluttered and deranged. I mean, you've got like more cages in the background, chandeliers hanging off of cages and wrought iron and disco balls and little divots on every single surface. It's too much. Yeah, they're revamping the cast. They need to revamp this restaurant. I don't think this restaurant has had a deep clean since it's opened. It looks dirty.

Yeah, we need to go for a stylistic change here. This is I can't also, why do we have this? Like, it's what what do you call that shade of pink, like pink velvet there? That's like a it's kind of like a boudoir pink, but then you have this random green velvet.

That's the color of my hoodie from today. Why? Why do we have these color combinations? Well, you have to remember this place has never had this place only has the lights on, you know, while people are working in the day when it's nighttime. It's all those like Lisa Vanderpump or now Tom Tom Sandoval Phillips Hue lights. So it doesn't really look like that.

Okay, so next we see her doing an homage to the... We see this Natalie McGuire doing an homage to the originals and the original dresses. Okay, it's classic. All right, we'll skip her. And then we get Venus. I already don't like him. Douche. Total douche. He's going to be a problem. He's going to be a real problem. Wait until you see the next picture of Venus. Flip over to the next one. How is this the same person? What? Venus? How is this the same? Venus.

I don't get that this is the same person. Do you think it is? I see how it's the same, but Venus is... Wow, Venus is tricky. Venus is giving us different looks. So now we've come up with an entirely new perception of who Venus is. Yeah, he's giving us douche bro in one, and then in the next he's giving us non-binary ethereal diva bitch. Which...

Which I'm hoping is the version that we're going to get on the show because I would not fuck with this bitch. That's for sure. He's like, I'm wearing turquoise, which says peace, but I'm wearing hair and lips that says C word. My necklace says Luan de los Eps, but my hair says Amanda Pete. So then I think we're going to get a, I think we're, I think Venus is going to give us non-binary chic because in the next shot, we have the whole group of,

group Peter has photobombed like ew who's the old gross old guy who's photobombed us Peter's done interviews where he's like oh of course I'm coming back to VPR did you think I would ever leave ever leave no Peter I didn't think you would ever leave Peter probably is the first dead cast remember he's just a ghost he's just the ghost Butler of Vanderpump Rules

Venus is front and center. And what's funny about Venus, this is so Vanderpump Rules. Venus has this whole look. Venus has like a suit, a gold sequined glittery suit. Venus is going for a look, but is also like, but I'm going to get my credit for my steps because I'm going to still wear my big ass Apple watch. Yeah.

it does not go with my outfit but i am not going to be told that i did not stand up today can i just say right now before we take another picture this is a loud environment i just got a notification everybody guys my heart rate is up a little bit i also love this so what's going on so the person the the two women

to the, I guess, to the left of Venus from our angle. We have this one, this sort of like vaguely Tori Kelly-ish woman who's crouching on the ground, who is doing a full-on sitcom pose. She's like, and featuring Miranda. You know, she's like in a different show right now. I feel like she actually works. She just has the face like of a genuine server who's like, I'm just here to please you. Like I actually work. Nobody else I don't think works. I don't think anybody else does.

And then the girl right above her, that's like her friend from out of town who asked to be in the photo. She's like, oh, that girl. No one's taught that girl makeup yet. She's not from here. Is your friend still photobombing our photo? Come on. She's just in. She's really excited. She just wants to be in a photo with everyone. Well, I mean, look, we know nothing about these people, but just from the pictures, I'm excited.

Yeah, I'm down. I'm ready to accept them. Oh, here's the classic cast. No, go away. They're done. They're rolling news. They're done. They're finished. Speaking of being finished, so are we. We're going to move over to the audience hangout portion of this show on YouTube.

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