Shownotes Transcript
Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning is the biggest practical action movie ever made, topping everything that has come before it with even more unbelievable real stunts, giving audiences an unprecedented, unforgettable edge-of-your-seat experience that is meant to be seen on the big screen. It's the best and biggest mission yet, and the most fun you'll have at the theaters this summer.
Man, I remember watching the first Mission Impossible when Tom Cruise was dangling above those lasers, and it's been great ever since. Yeah, he really does all that stuff, too. That's why it's exciting to watch it. I've seen all of them. Tom's passion for entertaining audiences has him, along with the dedicated cast and crew, pulling out all the stops to deliver the most thrilling, unbelievable feats yet. See Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning only in theaters Friday, May 23rd.
Hello, darling. How are you, darling? I do say it never truly occurred to me how much I adore British television. But seriously, British TV is so good. And it's not all queens and crumpets.
It's the wardrobes, the witty little quips, the cute little villages where three people die a week, the reality show minus the melodramatic music. They just do TV differently. And BritBox is the place to get it. They have so many amazing mysteries, comedies, crime thrillers, gorgeous dramas, the cutest little gardening shows. Way more than we realized. There's a good chance your next TV obsession will be British. So switch it up and see it differently with BritBox. Start streaming with a free trial at BritBox.com.
Kisses, darling. One of the reasons we love watching Bravo shows is for the luxury. I mean, come on, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Most of the time I can just watch it for the shots of the gorgeous city and the houses. And let's not forget Lisa Barlow's $60,000 ring that she lost. Oh, heck yeah.
If you're looking for a way to experience luxury for yourself, try Virgin Voyages. Over $1,000 in value is included in every sailing. Everything they offer, from their menus created by Michelin star chefs to their cabins designed by top international firms, is the pinnacle of luxury.
of luxury. Virgin Voyages cruises are kid-free and catered to adult tastes, and they have some incredible destinations. We're talking Caribbean escapes, Iceland and the British Isles, Miami, New York. You can even live out your below-deck med fantasy with our Lux Voyage in the Med.
I am so excited to go on my first Virgin cruise. You know, the idea of a kid-free ship is very appealing to me. And all these menus, it's like definitely a boat made for Ben. It looks like a giant, gorgeous club with fabulous rooms. I cannot wait to go. Book now at virginvoyages.com or contact your travel advisor. I've been watching you. I've been watching you.
Happens when there's so much that happens.
Well, I mean, it is beyond our honor to have two luminaries in the field of media with us. Welcome, actually, back to the show in both cases, Dorinda Medley and Kiki Monique. Welcome to Watcher Crappins. Yes, we're very excited to be here. Yeah. Yeah.
So you guys will tell us what's going on. So you're doing a show together now on Sirius. We combined forces. So Kiki's been doing reality check. I've been doing reality check. And yeah, they decided to take the two great ones and put them together. I mean, if we're good separate, you can only imagine what we're like together. And Kiki's so good because Kiki is the real mind behind it. She goes deep.
She studies the trials. She's very detailed. I'm great with all the commentary, something new and different. Yeah, Kiki will show up on your doorstep. Yeah, no, I'm a stalker, for sure. But she told me yesterday that after Shannon Bedore's crash, she actually jumped in her car and got to the scene.
to get a piece of the cement or whatever it is before it left. This is Shannon's. This is Karen's. No, you don't. You have Karen's too. Yeah, I don't have a display yet, but they're in there. They're here. I got to find good displays. I guess. You're a sick woman. You have to send Kiki a little piece of Bluestone Manor to go along, like, just in the cement collection. Yeah, she's got to come and sleep in the fish room. Yes, for sure. Give her a piece that Ramona broke off when she had all the lighting ripped down on her. Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yes. I have my Bluestone Manor bourbon, which I love. So the bottle is beautiful. So Dorinda gave us these when Dorinda, you came to our 2021 Watcher, the Crappies Awards. That was our first one back after lockdown. And it was also our 10 year anniversary. That was an immensely special show. And we were just saying right beforehand that like we I don't know if we've ever heard the audience scream and just like lose their minds.
more than when you surprised everyone on that stage. Oh my God, it was so much fun. The energy was so good that night and I couldn't believe how packed it was. And you know, we, it was so nice because we all just had come out of the pandemic. So we were all kind of back in it again, but not, you know, used to being very isolated. You know, we were all like, what? Can I do that? Can I touch that? Can I see that? So when we, when I came on stage and you know, that I hadn't been in a room with that many people in years,
Well, almost years, right? Yeah, that was crazy. This year at the Crappies, I played you. I did a number as you in a turban. I did you from Sunset Boulevard. You were singing the song from Sunset Boulevard. Wow. Back then.
That's it. I'm surprised you didn't get a call from Luann saying, how dare you? Stepping out our cabaret. I'm the one that discovered Sunset Boulevard, for God's sake, darling. I was in the original cast. I was in the original cast. They actually asked me to be in it last week, but I couldn't do it. Cabaret! Cabaret. It used to be called Sag Harbor Boulevard. I was just out with Luann like 10 minutes ago.
Not really. I was out with Luann, Sonia, Ramona. There was a bunch of us just catching up. We have a group and we kind of once every couple months, someone just decides we're all going to get on a Zoom and talk about, you know, there's always some way. I swear to God, Sonia was still opened up. We're talking about Mr. Morgan. So it never changes. I swear. I'm so fascinated. I can't make this shit up.
I'm so fascinated by people's group chats. Like when I hear like, this is a group chat, I'm like, this is the one I want to be peeking into. Like who cares about the Valley boys chat? That sounds gross. Well, can I tell you something Kiki, I thought of you because there was a woman on that was sort of acting as a commentator that brought like has this idea for all of us. Hey,
And she literally at one point I said to her, Tracy, are you going to speak? She goes, I just I don't know how to enter this. I don't even know what I'm so over. I thought I was going to be in control of this meeting, but I don't know how to. I'm just having fun watching it with all four of you. There's no way.
Yeah, there's no controlling that. No. I do love that you guys actually are like a real circle, right? Because some shows you sort of feel like once filming ends, they just go their separate ways and then they come back and they all pretend like they're friends. Well, you guys know, we've been friends for so long. I mean, the show kind of, it was something I think in a lot of ways was made because of our crazy eccentric lives in New York City and the fact that we had such foundations with each other and each other's kids and
marriages and divorces and baptisms and dog deaths and graduations. I mean, we've all, there's always been at least funerals or at least one of us in the audience of life.
throughout the last decades, you know? And that's like what worries me too about like future like reality stars. Like I'm excited about Gen, you know, Gen NYC, that whole thing. But like, I think that like people don't have relationships in the same way because they meet online or they just, you know, they're just so used to being behind keyboards where you have a group of women where it's like, yeah, you were going to lunches and galas and all these things. I'll be honest with you, a lot of that has to be because New York was,
because the only form of communication we had during then was work, happy hours, and your answering machine. So you had to get out there and meet people because there was no city in your apartment. Otherwise, you had no ability to communicate. I also truly believe that our generation, what is our generation again? I don't even know.
I think you're X, right? Yeah, I think you might be. And I'm not saying this like our mothers that are like, that was the best music. Although I think our era music is still the best music. But OK, I do think our generation of especially women were very social, very tribal, very social. We were always together.
I mean, there was an incredible Instagram the other day that this comedian had. And he goes, he shows a bunch of women going to different places and farms and shops. He goes, what is it with even girls weekends? You say girls weekends, you always need to have that girls dinner, girls weekend, girls out. And you just say women's retreat and the goddamn thing is sold out.
What are you women doing? Ignoring your stupid, hairy, unshaved asses. That's what we're doing. But, you know, I think this generation, like my daughter's generation, they're back. There was a little bit of like,
solitude in this last whatever 10 years but pro-covid i think it's happening again the gathering of the great women you know you go out and do your stuff and we like to look at smelly soaps for an afternoon so leave us alone do you remember do you have any memories of when you met some of some of the women in your in your circle they're like of course yes
I met Lou Anne. I was at a very, this multi, multi, back then this was rich millionaires. Now you might as well just file for bankruptcy immediately. That's like blue collar now. I mean, according to Britain, unless you're making seven figures, you can't even order DoorDash these days. I know. You're making a million dollars. You live on the set of Roseanne, you know. Yeah, exactly.
Like, really? Because then I think I'm in trouble. But back then, you know, we went to a bar mitzvah, a bar mitzvah, and I think they spent literally like $250,000 on it, which, by the way, back then was like...
And Luann was dancing. I'd known Luann because I'd lived in London. And I, you know, she, when I would ever go in the summer to wherever, South of France, whatever we did back then in the glory days, the heydays of wealthy husbands and lifestyles, you know, I would see her and I knew of her and you'd see her at parties, but it,
was really, and that's where we met on the dance floor at a Bob Mitz. But we just, I would, I just saw her and I think, oh my God, I think I know that woman from London. And I hopped on the dance floor and the rest was history. Ramona, I knew because Ramona's been around. You can't live on, in the same way you cannot go to a party in Palm Beach in New York City without seeing Ramona. You can't live on the Upper East Side without Ramona. That's,
And our kids went to school together. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my gosh. And Sonia has always been a fixture. I mean, Sonia was the great organizer of the Wealthy Men with Women early days. I mean, she truly had been doing that a long time and very good at it. Let me tell you something. There was a club on, I think right now it's called...
It's something else now. Anyway, it was on 60th between Park and Madison and they had a rope. And our biggest dream was to get through the rope. You had to be friends with Tiger or something. And I remember Sonia would come in at night. We were all very young and broke, but, you know, we could always have enough money to get someone to buy us a drink at this late night place. You know, we never paid for drinks. We would just target a man and be like, yeah.
And Sonya would walk in her room, and I tell you something, she really had something. Like, she just, men loved her. And you turned your head when you saw Sonya walk in her room. Yeah. Still do, eh? Still got it, Sonya. So what do you think about this new crop of shows coming out? Obviously, we're still pissed at the traders. Do you think about going on Love Hotel? Yeah, I think I'd be great at Love Hotel. You're gonna go get it.
You would be. But they have to bring in some great hairy guys from Queens. I need a mafia guy. I don't think they're above that. That was one of the biggest surprises. I don't want some Midwestern white crocodile shoe bullshit. I want a nice, solid guy from Queens that will take me to Rao's twice a year. Good. That's all I need. I think they would get him. I was actually impressed with the guys because I thought they were just going to get a bunch of like tweezed and waxed.
you know, Instagram guys. And they actually got real guys. They had some good silver foxes. I just told, I really liked this and I like it because it's definitely a show that they can roll out. You know, I think he said that yesterday, but it's true. This, this,
You know, although I still never understood why they just didn't keep going with the ultimate girls trips. I know that they say it's because of the. But why? That's some sort of bizarre. You know, we're all told these things on TV, like we're not eating oranges on Tuesday because we don't have an orange on Tuesday. You know, so we never really know why. But, you know, we did St. Bart's and it was such a huge success and it kind of appeased the masses.
Yeah. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crapin's commercial.
If you're in healthcare, you've probably heard of FIGS. And if you haven't tried them yet, it's time you did. They are a total game changer. These scrubs are made specifically for awesome humans, designed to handle long shifts, constant movement, and everything the job throws at you all so you can perform at your best. I actually live by a medical center, so I have seen FIGS out in the wild. They look great. They're high quality. I've heard nothing but great things about this brand.
Fig scrubs are engineered for comfort and performance. They're lightweight, breathable, stretchy, and antimicrobial. Built to keep up with long shifts, back-to-back patients, and whatever the day throws at you. And fig scrubs have a modern, tailored fit without sacrificing function. Because who said you can't look great while you're doing great work? They come in flattering styles and colors with smart details so you can perform your best.
And this week is Nurses Week. Go to wherefigs.com and as Nurses Week exclusive, get 20% off everything. That's wherefigs.com to get 20% off. Happy Nurses Week. Happy Nurses Week.
May is the end of our tour schedule, and we are having a party, people! I'm so excited. We're going to have a huge party. I'm going to get a bunch of food, and guess where I'm getting it from? Whole Foods! Whole Foods Market helps you save on everything you need with the quality and ingredient standards you expect. Look for hundreds of yellow, low-priced signs that help you save without compromising the quality you expect.
from Whole Foods Market. And if you love strawberries, you're in luck because they're on sale right now. I seriously go to Whole Foods all the time just for casual eating. You know, I love their buffet, the best salad bar in town. Or I go there when I'm having a few people over for all my appetizers, charcuterie, if you will. It's there for all of my needs. Are you going to make something with strawberries? Heck yeah, it's a little shortcake in my life. Of course. Yeah. Their house brand, 365 by Whole Foods Market, has daily low prices to help start summer right.
Entertain the wallet happy way with chips and salsa, organic ice cream, and refreshing sparkling waters. Your guests are gonna love it. Save on May celebrations with great everyday prices at Whole Foods Market.
Oh man, the weather is warming up and it's nice and cool at night. It's the best time to be outside on my patio. And you know what I've wanted? I've wanted those like big club chair things that kind of swivel for the outside. And I found them at Wayfair, baby. No surprise there because Wayfair has all things outdoor. I am in the market for a nice outdoor coffee table and I know that I'm going to get it from Wayfair because I already looked and there's like five different ones I'm ready to buy.
to buy. Well, right now I'm all about the outdoor seating. I'm pretty much finding every single piece on Wayfair, which is amazing. I mean, they're not joking around over there and I've already furnished most of my indoors with it. It's just so easy and I can even have people come put it together. It is so convenient. They have everything your home needs during the warm weather season and also free and easy delivery, even on the big stuff.
Shop a huge selection of outdoor furniture online this summer. Get outside with Wayfair. Head to wayfair.com right now. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R dot com. Wayfair. Every style, every home.
If you're looking for a way to make your space feel brand new and beautiful, check out our sponsor, Revival Rugs. Ooh, I have a Revival Rug in my bedroom, and my favorite thing is waking up in the morning and putting my feet on that rug and walking across it. It feels so nice on my feetsies.
Really high quality, beautiful stuff. They have so many amazing styles available. So you're going to find something that's perfect for you. And one of their most popular items are their washable rugs. If you've got pets or kids or just love wine and iced coffee, this is a great product to buy. If you spill anything on your rug, the stains are super easy to get out.
This collection combines true washability with the look and feel of a real rug so you don't have to sacrifice quality for convenience. So try Revival Rugs where you can get a beautiful, high-quality rug without spending a full month's rent. Visit RevivalRugs.com slash WWC and use code CRAPPINS20 for 20% off your first order.
That's RevivalRugs.com slash WWC, code CRAPPENS20. One more time, RevivalRugs.com slash WWC with code CRAPPENS20 to save 20% off your first order.
And that's why also, by the way, just, you know, Ronnie just mentioned the traders briefly. One of like the big, big, big draws of this season was because you were going to be on it. And I was really so excited to see you at the round table, like really kind of like cross exactly. Stop it. I'm going to cry again. I cried for one straight month after I got murdered. Oh, my God. If they said, hey, I saw a psychologist over it. I was so upset. You did. Yeah.
I felt like such, I got in there with such glory and excitement. And I really prepared myself in every single way. Hannah had me basically get a PhD in traders. I worked out my clothes were just fucking off the record. I mean, and yeah, I went there with those six suitcases and I came home with those six suitcases and I was like, Hannah,
come home because I don't want to look at that shit ever again. Take it all. Wait, were you at the psychologist? Was it because like you thought like people didn't like you or like what was your... I went to my therapist. I just had to talk to him because I just was... First of all, I don't... Kiki, I'm so Sagittarian, as you know, because you're one of us. We just don't fail at shit. You know what I mean? And I'm so competitive that it was...
This was an uncontrollable defeat.
and such a huge, you know, and I was so excited and I knew that I could create some great content storing the castle and my fabulous Aliyah black gown. You know what I mean? That I had this image in my mind and, you know, within 36 hours, there I was back at JFK. But if they asked you to come back again, would you be like, no, I'm not going to put myself through that again? No, I would say I would hope because I don't think I really got the experience.
I want them to bring you back because I think the outrage online was huge because honestly, because you have always been so supportive
so amazing in group settings, whether you're being funny, whether you're going off on someone, it's just like, you're very compelling to watch. And so I think a lot of us were excited to, to at the idea of you just being at that round table and, and someone giving a line of bullshit and you just coming for them. And we felt robbed. And so I personally, I personally think the producers should reach out to you again. Well, it was at one point there was a, there was a hashtag going around because they're called hashtag hashtag.
abandoned traders us and i had to go on and do a promo saying no it's gonna be great you know because uh yeah it was but it was a great season anyway it was somehow you made the show without me god i was you know there was a little part of me that was like i don't want it to be so good and chanel too by the way the back-to-back of you and chanel was really hard for us bravo fans because also chanel we saw the outside of chanel
and that was it was the first time i noticed the um kind of divide between drag race fans and housewives fans i didn't know that there was like a war a brewing there that was so weird and i was like well i'm not going up against drag race fans i'll just sit quiet here on the end no way at the reunion um i was taught i had to talk with andy and he said he's like this is gonna be your easiest reunion ever i said oh no andy
I'm just going to sit there and come out and not say a word. It is not my place. Of course I get out that Bob the Dracula. I'm like, well, let me tell you what I want. Yeah, you're like, how dare you? How dare you, sir? You heard me. And he's looking at me like, the cameras come on and I don't know. It's like, you know, camera cocaine. I can't stop myself, you know?
But that's why the housewives are always so good, I think, on the traders in terms of entertainment, because the roundtable, I feel like the reunions prepare all of you for getting to that roundtable. I mean, you saw, you know, when Robin had no had no qualms just jumping in and, you know, she wasn't there long, but she actually was really good. Yeah, really good. Like making accusations.
Dolores was more chill, but Dolores is generally more chill. Dolores is usually not going to start up with you unless you come for her. And it's actually funny. She came to the crappies this year, and my friend was like, by the way, I really liked you. I hope you're having... I'm really enjoying you on the traders. And she told my friend, I'm
what a lovely show. I had such a fun time. And my friend later on was like, I think she won because there's just no way that Dolores is saying like, what a lovely show if she got kicked off. Yeah, because everyone else you talk to is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. It was great. People are like, oh my God, they take away your phone. They take...
I looked at it as like, wow, they're going to take away my phone. Thank God they're going to take away my, you know, we get so little silence and peace in our lives that, you know, to be obligated to be in silence and peace. I think, I mean, I do a lot of that at Bluestone Manor. So I, you know, I sometimes just leave my phone on charger in my room. So, because I still come from that era where I did that. You know, I lived in London for what, 10 years. So we were way behind in phones. I didn't have a phone until like Hannah was,
2004, I think we got a phone. So that was, and we're still in London. So that was
What? 1997. Because we were so far behind in London. And we were still doing this. Yeah. Are you doing a Bluestone Manor show? Did I read that somewhere? Or is that just a gossip? Yes, we are still. It's so funny. I was just on my liability insurance. But yes, we're working hard towards that. You know, I've got like three or four things in the making. So I just keep pitching away. I just think there's a there's some show left.
in "Blue Stone Manor." I think there's one more. - One more? - I think we should do just the great "Blue Stone Manor" tag sale. Empty that shit out and just get down with it. Everybody come and take whatever they want. I've been living on it. I said to myself, I was walking the property the other day 'cause it's just coming back alive. And it's really interesting because I've been doing it for 20 years and it's almost like, you know, I've got the same characters or the sons of the same characters.
And I was thinking, how much longer am I going to be doing this? Like, you know what? At some point, it's the enthusiasm waves because Hannah's no longer comes as much as that. And my parents are older. But listen, it is. I have to say when I was there last weekend, it is truly one of the most beautiful, proper
And you have fun neighbors. You said Elizabeth Perkins is your neighbor. Like, you know, like, there's, you know, Ken Falks up there. Who's like the greatest, biggest designer design part of the white house at one point. There's, you know what the Berkshire, the reason why the Berkshires worked for me at this point, because I think, cause I lived abroad for 10 years, it's much more of a British kind of lifestyle, like dinner parties. You know, there's no glamorous parties and all that. It's more like a country home. Yeah. But I like that.
Well, actually, and to that end, any plans for Cookbook, Dorinda? Because we saw you cook a lot on the show. I used to watch your YouTube cooking videos. I'm starting those up again. Oh, you are? Oh, right on. They did really, really well. You know, it's so funny. I'm just in the midst of, well, I pitched a book to Simon & Schuster. That's not that. But people aren't so interested in cookbooks anymore.
No. I think they are because they're really into the, like the trad wife is like a still a thing. Yeah. I don't know. I think if I did a blue format cookbook. You just need to do those things where you throw like Cheetos on the counter and then put cheese on top and then blow dry it to cook it. You know those stupid TikTok videos. But I think if I ever did do a cookbook and I've thought about it a lot and even laid it out on, you know, a
on chat GDP, you know, how we would do it. Cause we did. That's the way I do my whole life. Now I'm like, I got to figure out what to eat. What should Dorinda eat tonight? And they're like, Dorinda, do you? Yeah. I love that chat. You should be, you should be the voice in the college. If I had that, right. You should be the voice in the maps. I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask my maps to make you the voice and just have you turn left up there. I said, right.
Come on. I'm not well bitch about that wrong turn. Make it nice. Changing it at the last second. No, I think if I ever did a cookbook, it'd have to be a cookbook sort of entertaining lifestyle book. That way I think you could grab the attention.
My favorite dinner party. Or a cookbook show, you know? Like, I'd rather you, I'd rather see you, I mean, I like watching you make your food, you know, and hear you talking and telling stories and stuff like that. I mean, a book. No one reads. People just pretend to read. I mean, look how unnatural it looks on the traders when they show one of those reality stars in a bathtub reading a book. They don't even know how to hold the book. Yeah.
So Kiki is great because Kiki covers all these trials and we started watching. She started going, I just don't. She started going very deep yesterday about the Kim Kardashian trials. Oh, what are you on? Kiki, tell them, you know, just tell them about your interests and the way you do these trials. Like you, she could have been a lawyer. I mean, I could have, but I honestly couldn't have because I hate going to school. The thought of going to school that long is like awful. But you go deep. Yeah.
But no, I mean, like, it's just like, I think most people, you know, especially when it comes to celebrity, like they want to understand what's happening, but going to actual court is like boring. Like the Tom Girardi trial, there were times I was literally like passing out and I was like, this is terrible. And it wasn't until Tom was just like, you know, saying F you to the prosecutor that it's like,
oh, we get exciting. But I think people just want the sparks notes, right? They just want the highlights of what happened. You want the long order version. Exactly. I'm willing to go through the torture of it all just to get the highlights. And you know what's great about this combining forces? Everybody has their methods, the way they do it. I kind of ran the show, I'd watch it and kind of as an, there's a lot of sort of as an expert
reality star or someone that was on that understands the production. I have my point of view. And then Kiki has a totally different point of view. And it's really interesting to, you know, talk like, you know, give us because we both learn a lot from each other, which I think helps the audience. And we have a very healthy calling.
which I really love. I think a good call in radio show. You've been at this for a little while now, right? In terms of content, content creation, podcasting, et cetera. How long have you been, have you, have you been in the game? Honestly, it all started during like lockdown. Like I've,
Everyone, like when everyone was doing nothing, I just started making TikToks and I don't know, I don't sing or dance. So I was like, I know how to talk. And so I'll just talk about stuff. And like, that's where it really started. And like, I just did that. And it eventually led to like where we are, which is what's so funny because it's like, you know, in the world of Bravo, like, yeah, people would probably say, yeah, I'm the fan, right? Because I was like, I am a fan who has now just like become someone who wants to talk about it a lot, which is why I do love
hearing Dorenda's perspective because someone who's been on the other side of the camera I'm like okay I'm seeing things but let me tell you as a fan we do not agree update me on the Erica update me on the Erica Girardi stuff because she's still got stuff beyond Tom right and like this season of Beverly Hills they just kind of watched you know they walked right past all of that but I was really into that stuff and I just kind of got
Bored because trials, you know, the other thing about trials is they just take years and years. Did you hear Kiki that they really gave her a friends of contract? I mean, again, I think it was if they did that at all, I believe they did it.
In the same way they did it to Dorit to get a fire under her ass because like it works, right? Because like Erica's not, she has said she's not going anywhere. And she does have trials of her home that are not attached to Tom directly that are specifically for her. And she can easily go on and say, well, I can't talk about it. It's a pending legal issue.
And so they're like, well, well, if you're not going to talk about it, friend of, and then maybe they'll get a fire at her ass and maybe, you know, she had an easy season. So they're kind of like, you're not going to get any season, but you know, listen, regardless of like, if the content was there, regardless of,
She had she I mean, they had really a gut. I think it'd be a huge mistake to make her a friend. I just think she's physically for the eyes. She's a fixture. You know, she looks great in the lineup. I think it was totally fair that she got a little pass this year. Well, for a while, they kind of years for a while. Weren't they casting people and then telling them kind of at a later date whether or not they were friend of? Exactly. Do you think it's just maybe like a threat?
I think it's with you. It's like you're re-auditioning kind of. What do you think about the Garcelle departure? That made me sad because I love Garcelle. I'm a huge Garcelle fan.
I didn't like the Garcelle departure at all, but I would have, it kind of reminded me of the Vanderpump departure where she just said, all right, fuck you then, I'm out. And I don't like that. Did you see the moment when she turned? I want you to fight these idiots. That's the whole point. I want you to stand up for yourself. And I understand that there's other reasons she didn't. You know what I think it was with Garcelle that I think got, because just knowing her, what little I know about her, but she reminds me, she's a lot like me in ways. I can deal with a lot of stuff, but when people are disloyal,
And I just felt, she felt like she had that moment where you just said, and then we were like, what are these things go to get? Like, no, no one likes me here. Yeah. Like that one even. And, you know, I think it was very hurtful when she was called boring and doesn't show her life. And, you know, I don't know. Erica who like one of my biggest complaints with Erica, I think in some ways, Erica is really good, but.
one of my issues with Erica is you still don't really know who her friends are. We don't really know what her life is. I know. Outside of hanging with this group. And it's been like 10 years. And we've never seen a boyfriend. I thought about that the other day. Or a date. We don't see the son. We don't really see anything. We only see her getting into outfits. And I just feel like it was. But I think that is her. Yeah.
I'm the argument that that is her. For me, it's enough. Yeah. Like for me, that is her. I don't know that she has boyfriends and I'm not accusing her of anything, but I think that sometimes, I think a lot of that was just an act, her like over sex, sex kitten thing. I think, you know, she went home to Tom, you know, she never,
see Erica out with Mystery Man. You did one briefly. I think she was in Las Vegas and there was some guy during the trial, but I don't even know if that was her. It's about a Rush Limbaugh looking guy who owns the casinos. Yes, but you rarely see caught, you know, Erica with a man leaving a restaurant. I
I actually go as far to say I think Erica's probably when she's not working or performing is a big home buddy. By seeing the way she loves her home so much. Which is why it was obnoxious that she called Garcelle boring. Because it's like, okay, call me boring, but you don't get to call me boring when you're not showing all these things or if you're not showing them because you don't have them going on. And I think that Garcelle also was just like,
wow, I don't know if these people like me. I'm not getting any backup from Sutton. And on top of that, I'm at a place right now where I'm producing these movies. I've got some, I've got, I've got a brand new grandchild. I've got a house. I've got a house. I've got my people. She parlayed it. She parlayed into something better pretty early on. So I think she was like, okay, I got it. Bye. Not only that, I think the thing with Sutton, she's just, I mean, that was like,
I think that was, I think I would think knowing Sutton that she feels very bad about that. You know, that happens sometimes. The show, you get yourself in a thing with the show, it takes over and you run with it. And then you realize, oh, that's right. You really are my friend. And that's what you're hoping the off season allows you to reknit back together. But sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes, you know, the show takes over and you realize,
forget that you've got a writer die to the left because you know, you're kind of getting the glitz and glamor and fame of it all. Yeah. Were there any, were there any relationships you felt in your life and your experience on Roni where you're like, Oh, that's too bad. Like, like the show kind of like we, we sort of lost our way because of it.
No, because we always knit back together. I mean, anyone that was worth knowing, anybody that I don't talk to now, I'm pleased not to talk to. Yeah. You're fine. Not to talk to. Um, so keep you one. Sagittarian like that. You know what I mean? Like December 4th over here. Yeah. When you're done, you're done. Yeah. Well, I'm never done, which is why I'm going to bring this up again. I,
what i've done what i'm done but what i will do is i don't get i don't sweat the small stuff so it's just an argument or something we can get past i'm like let's just put it behind us but i think as we get older too we see how cycles work with people and it's like people come and people go and that's it you keep the close ones close and fuck the rest you know um but story my life update me on i really want to know about the erica gerardi marco marco case what's happening with that that
You know, that's the thing. Like, I've been trying to keep up. It looked like there was a filing because it looks like I guess there was a case also happening in Florida or something. And I guess from maybe the other partner and there was a filing that wasn't done by her attorney. And so there was like could be a default judgment there.
automatically that goes towards it. But I don't know if that's being rectified. But that one is definitely still headed to trial. I know that she tried to get it dismissed, but it's definitely going to trial. I just don't know when because I think that her bankruptcy, like the $25 million, because what we learned in the Tom Girardi trial is $25 million did get transferred to EJ Global LLC. And so there is a case basically around that. And so I think that's happening first.
And so I think, you know, I don't know. Again, like you said, trials take forever. Well, thanks. You saved me the good one because I get tired. How is all these lawyers getting paid? I mean, all I know— I think the Vegas guy, no? Yeah, I guess. I think the Russian law guy. They must be all—all must be on contingency because—
I know myself, I talked to my trademark lawyer and two days later I have a bill for $6,208. I'm like, what? I just asked me, tell me how to spell my trademark that I post. I know, that's how I am. I'm like, please don't make us call the lawyer or anything like that. Can we go on legal Zoom? So you can imagine what bills these people, like I was even thinking about Dorit and PK, like, you know, that's going to be an expensive bill.
And it's so interesting, KK, because we'll talk about it today in the show. But remember yesterday, everyone was asking this 10 year, why, you know, do we, why he waited? He didn't know why he didn't file before the 10 year mark. Yeah. It's kind of all coming out.
But isn't that because, aren't they saying that the moment of separation is when it counts anyway? But then she put on the filing when she filed TBD on the date of the date separated. No, it doesn't. You have to actually file it because for financial reasons, that's the beginning. But yeah.
you really do have to file because if you reach the 10-year mark of being legally married, when you file, you start the dissolvement of the marriage, right? But what's interesting is because people always look at, you know, when they're going to split the equitable distribution. But you've got to remember, equitable distribution works in both ways, when you have money and when you have debt, right?
Well, that's the big that's the big question with them. Right. Because do they even have money still? I was listening to Bravo Docket, which I love. And they were going through PK's cases. And that man was worth like three quarter of a billion dollars. Like his businesses were worth a ton of money. And then he went through all these bankruptcies and all of this. And now they're not paying their mortgage for months at a time. They just got that paid off. But I think the question is, like, do they have any? Where is it hidden?
- Well, the bigger question in divorce is what does he have, but what are his debts? Because that's what they take out first. The debts are always the scariest part of any, you know,
Because, yeah, what was used as collateral on debt? What was, yeah, like that's the scariest part. Is stuff going to start getting repoed? Then the only option is to sell the house. Yeah. If someone can't buy out the other one, then there's a force. Well, they don't own that house, I believe, is owned by one of his business LLCs with multiple partners.
So I don't even think she would get a ton from that. But we have to let you go. But before we go, give us a prediction of the next real housewife to go down with legal issues. We'll start with you, Keith. Oh, my God. The next? I feel like, oddly enough...
I think Kyle Richards might end up only because Mauricio, I keep hearing things about Mauricio and because they're still married, I feel like she might get dragged into it in an Erica Jane type situation. I'm just saying, I just, I. And Kathy said this year, Kathy said this year, something like he doesn't have the money to pay somebody off. Like she made a comment like that. It was like Mauricio. What doesn't he though? Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know. I just feel like that could be, I feel like there could be a shocker in that situation and it could be around that. Okay. Well, that's interesting. What do you think, Dorinda? Well, I don't have any backing on this. We don't need backing. Don't you just want to guess? Yeah, just to guess. I mean, if the gods were to whisper in my ear, I think we're going to see some
I can't get sued for this, can I? No. No. Well, no. We're just guessing. Do I have to say the word allegedly? We're just guessing. Allegedly. Say allegedly. This is like a Deadpool where you guess who's going to die in the next year. It's just morbid curiosity. I feel like there's a lot of shit and things going around Bronwyn from Salt Lake City. There is, yes. Ooh, that's going to be an interesting season. It seems to be accumulating and accumulating fast. And I don't know, something, I just have a feeling.
And I think those girls are digging it out as we speak. They are. Now that cast is going to fuck with your life. I'll take that. Especially that entire cast. It could be that entire cast because between Lisa Barlow and Whitney Rose, the bottom's going to fall out somewhere. I also think
that uh drew sidora i think drew sidora could wind up having something that's a good one that one's kind of doesn't she already well we're just trying to figure out what her husband does i mean yeah nobody knows well he does he's whatever he's doing is doing it from a very nice basement with the screen right
All right, you guys. Thank you so much for being here. When can we check out Reality Checked? Great seeing you guys. I hope you're doing well. Tell us what your show's on. It's on every Monday through Thursday, 4 p.m. Eastern, 1 p.m. Pacific on Radio Andy Channel 102 Sirius XM. Beautiful. We'll be listening. Thank you guys for coming. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King. It's always a party on Allison Block. Our way is the Amber Way. It's the Foster and the Furious. It's Amanda Foster. She can run my country. It's Angie McGovern. It's always automatic with Ashley Otto. Put your hands together for Carly Clapp. Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. She's not just a Sheila, she's a Daniela. It's you.
We never miss our call. It's Diane Call. Erin McNicholas. She don't miss no trick-a-less. Hava Nagila Weber.
You'll never hide from Heidi Eleanor Jones. I go, you go, we all go for Hugo. Jamie, she has no less namey. She's our kind of mess, it's Jennifer Messer. Sip some scotch with Jessica Trach. She's our favorite streamer, Caroline Peacock. Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey Bee. Rigging the funk, it's Leslie Plunkett. She gets a name from us, it's Lindsay Dee.
Let's give a kisserino to Lisa Lino. Fresh as a daisy, it's Maisie McHenry. We love her on the rocks, it's Melissa Cox.
Megan Berg, you can't have a burger without the Berg. This is Livin' with Michelle Vivian. I love-a-ya Olivia Williamson. Tastier than Flanderson, it's Rachel Manderson. She sure is swell, it's Raquel. Yes, we can-a, it's Savannah. Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge. The Bay Area Betches!
Betches. And our super premium sponsors. She's the VIP, it's Amanda V. Can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin. Somebody get us 10 cc's of Betsy MD. We're taking the gold with Brenda Silva. Let's get real with Caitlin O'Neil. Don't get salty with Christine Pepper. Can't have a meal without the Emily Sides. Let's go into the woods with Guy Tubbs.
Who, what, why, where, and Gwen Pentland. It's our queen, it's Queen Laifa. Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall. Know your worth with Jason Kerr. Hail the cork master, the master of the cork, Jennifer Corcoran. We got our wish, it's Jen Plish. She's not harsh, she's Jill Hirsch. She's a little bit loony, Junie. My favorite Murdo, Karen McMurdo. She gets an A, it's Kelly B.
We love him madly. It's Kyle Pod Shadley. We're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Barron. She's a whiz. It's Liz Sarthy. Always killing it. It's Lowell Alcalani. The incredible edible Matthew sisters. She eases our woes. It's Melissa St. Rose. We're on the floor with Molly Dorsett. There's a chance of meatballs. It's Rebecca Cloud.
She's the Queen Bee, it's Sarah Lemke. Shannon, out of a can and Anthony. Let's take off with Tamla Plain. It's always a good time when you're wasting time with Bravo. She ain't no shrinking Violet Kutar. We love you guys.
If you like Watch What Crappens, you can listen ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.
At 24, I lost my narrative, or rather it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I
I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks, both recognizable and unrecognizable names, about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph.
My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up. They connected with the people that I'm talking to and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
Everyone has that friend who seems kind of perfect. For Patty, that friend was Desiree. Until one day... I texted her and she was not getting the text. So I went to Instagram, she has no Instagram anymore. And Facebook, no Facebook anymore. Desiree was gone. And there was one person who knew the answer. I am a spiritual person, a magical person.
A gorgeous Brazilian influencer called Cat Torres. But who was hiding a secret?
From Wondery, based on my smash hit podcast from Brazil, comes a new series, Don't Cross Cat, about a search that led me to a mystery in a Texas suburb. I'm calling to check on the two missing Brazilian girls. Maybe get some undercover crew there. The family are freaking out. They are lost. I'm Chico Felitti. You can listen to Don't Cross Cat on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.