#2904 Next Gen NYC S1E4 Part Two: Getting Fashionasty
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Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

So Brooks and Seth are in a confessional and Seth is like, I am so proud of you. Thanks, Dad. Pull my finger. What? Pull it. No, Dad. Gross. Old person. If I touch your finger, I may get old. So then they play cornhole and Anwar's like, oh, I won. Give me $20 or you don't have it. Maybe get a job, stupid. Am I right? Am I right?

Brooks goes, "Wow, you guys take Cornhole really seriously." - So then Charlie and Anwar walk off together. Anwar's like, "We need to have a talk. You're 30 years old and you're a stupid and a loser. Why do you smell like cabbage? Why?" - "By the way, I left a book for you upstairs. That's one flight of stairs. Or I guess according to you, five stupid don't understand elevators."

And then everyone's watching them, of course. And Brooks is like, I love seeing Charlie and like his family dynamic. Yeah.

Georgia goes, yeah, I just like that they look alike. It's like very cute. I mean, their relationship is totally toxic, but the fact that they look alike is so cute. And Dylan's like, no, yeah, they're totally like alike. Yeah. And then some other girls like, yeah, it's like it's all just half. And like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like holding up a mirror to him in like 40 years. Oh my God. Oh,

Wow. So then we go back to the... 40 years? How old do you think Anwar is? Give the guy a break. She actually said, like, it's like holding up a mirror to him in, like, 50... Well, 40 years. Like, 50 years? I'm so glad we finally got to meet Methuselah. Look at that guy. What is he, 53? I love that they're turning Anwar into, like, a 90-year-old. They have no concept. Anwar looks pretty good. What do you think he is, like, mid-50s? Yeah, I think so. Anwar looks great. Anwar is, like, definitely like a silver fox. Like, he is, like...

you know, I think if you were into that kind of like older daddy look like he looks fantastic. You know why? Because he orders nice wall salads without the dressing. That's why he eats fucking Romaine lettuce and that's it. Yeah. Like a hard boiled egg and an anchovy and that's his day. Yeah. So enjoy your, enjoy your extra side of Caesar dressing. Van Gogh.

So then we go back to the dad and son and Anwar's like, so anyway, any plans as you approach 30? You're not dying apparently. Are you still partying? What are we doing with ourselves? You going to school? No, you're still laughing at school. School's still funny to you. Partend! You parted! Found a loser!

I know you don't want to talk about it, but you have to have a plan for it. You know, Tony Dotti is like, no, no, like it's not positive. Frankly, when we have these conversations, it's like, no, it's not so much a conversation. It's more like me giving you recommendations that what you could be successful and you staring out into space because you're stupid and a bad body. I'd like Dylan.

So then we go back to Georgia and she's like, I feel like weird, like low key. Cause like, I feel like I know Charlie's perspective of his dad and it's not positive. Okay. This is kind of weird. Cause like Charlie's dad is like a pretty intense figure. He like,

has a job and goes to work and shows up on time and then leaves and then is successful like that's so intense but i think that like charlie grew up like with very very high expectations of like doing the minimum things like showing up to places on time and i think that like charlie being like he just like rebelled against that and i think at like a certain point like parent and child both kind of get fed up with each other you know parent wanting just some sort of reasonable outcome for the effort he put into rearing the child and the child

just wants another free burger at Balloud. You know, it's hard. Yeah. You know, I think there's something, there are parents who are just over demanding and they're going to be disappointed in whatever you do, but then there's also disappointment bred in reality where

it's like you have everything. I've given you every opportunity and you choose to do nothing and be a loser. And I'm team Amnoir. I'm team Amnoir. I'm team Amnoir too. And I think that Amnoir is awful. I also would like to add that. I think he is so mean to Charlie. And the competitive thing is actually that is fucked up. When he's like, who's more attractive, me or Amnoir? All these micro competitions that Charlie's probably had to grow up with. That's a lot. But Charlie's even

even worse so lesser of two evils i'm going team anwar yeah i'm team anwar so george is like yeah like low-key like i feel weird because like his perspective of his dad is like not positive you know so then um charlie's like yeah like now we see them arguing charlie and anwar arguing and really anwar is just like so are you going to do anything with your life and charlie's like god dad

As he just got to, he literally just came to his house with like 10 rolled joints. It's like, anybody want to go smoke joints with me? I'm like, you're at your dad's house. You fucking lose. Like if your dad already thinks you're a loser, why are you showing up to smoke weed in his backyard with your friends? You know, like, come on, make some kind of effort. But he's like, God, I can't do anything to make him happy. And he's really happy. Like I'd get 99 on a math test. And he's like, why'd you miss that one point? Yeah.

You never got 99. Prove to me that you got 99 on a math test first. Yes. And tell us why you couldn't go the distance and get your 100. We're still waiting. So then Talia serves the group Rigatoni, which I can't believe Anwar didn't just dump her right then and there. Because that's crazy. A plate of carbs? Have you lost your goddamn mind? He's already stupid enough. Why don't you just put a potato in his brain and call it day? Call it day.

There was something about this rigatoni that like, I thought was strange. Like, I thought that like, it was strange that Talia just goes walking by her with a big bowl of rigatoni. And then George is like, is that rigatoni? Can I have it? And she just like,

why don't you go to the table that Talia's headed to? So then Talia puts down a giant bowl of rigatoni on this little side table thing that they're all sitting around with the couches. There was something, I don't know, I felt like there was something so entitled about this girl on the side who's like a guest in the house being like, is that rigatoni? Can I have? And I was like, get up and go sit at the table.

Yeah. So George is like, yeah, the other day he said something so weird. He was like, I can't be around my dad because my dad doesn't even want me there. And that's why he gives me allowance because he doesn't even want to be around me. I won't pay the problem to go away. I get it. Yeah. Be, be,

be someone that someone wants to be around because as far as I can tell, I don't think any of us would want to be around Charlie. I would pay money to get him out of my face. You know, at a certain point, like Anwar does seem terrible. I really do feel like Anwar has like really terrible, uh,

like aspects to him but i also can imagine that you've spent 30 years trying to make this show like try to like fix the show that you probably created yourself like let's not take it let's not like absolve anwar of any responsibility in charlie's outcome but you've been trying to fix it and you can't at a certain point just like you know what just let's just remove it here's some money go back to manhattan yeah and basically um

there's some girl there who kind of speaks for all of us because she's like yeah guys it's like really hard because Charlie's dad just gave up on him and like it's really hard for Charlie to live like that someone goes yeah but like Charlie's 30 so I love that

Yeah, it's getting too old now. So then Charlie joins them and he's like, whoa, it just never ends, bro, with my dad. You know, he's just fucking pissing me off. And Georgia goes, you hate when people do that. Yeah. I think that's part of when you get pissed off. Like, oh, my God, don't you hate when people piss you off? No, I love when people piss me off. I love that. That makes me thrive. And Charlie's like, well, at the end of the day, you get nothing from nothing.

I just want peace in my life. And part of me is worried that I'll never get it until he dies, frankly. But I don't know. Guess we'll have to wait and see. You're such a little asshole. Oh, my God. You want peace in your life? Get a fucking job. That's what you need. You need to stop living off this hateful person. You know, if he's so hateful and terrible, stop taking his money and go do what the rest of us do. Work, you little asshole. So he's like, come on, guys. Let's go smoke weed together in my dad's backyard. I'm like, okay.

So now we go. So has he never seen like a thoughtful foreign film? Like, do you think you're going to get peace when someone dies? Hello. You're going to have hours and hours and hours of staring up into the abyss and wondering what you could have done differently. And now it's too late. Oh, hello. There will be no peace for you. Yeah. So then we go to the Bronx and it's a it's a golf outing with Brooks and Ava and their dad's.

Yeah. So, uh, because Dame is doing this golf event, et cetera, and Dame is talking about how everyone there is like the principles from economically challenged places and he's brought, and now he's taught them all entrepreneurship. Hopefully he didn't teach them accounting as well. And Ava's like, yeah, he's like, my dad's like an entrepreneur. He founded Rockefeller records and like rock aware when I was like four and

And I was like in rockwear campaigns, you know, because, you know, he is he has a big deal and everything. And he says that Ava has a black belt in fashion and he wants her to know that she's the superhero that she is. OK, so that's what this golf event is all about. I don't know that I trust somebody to trust to teach me entrepreneurship when they say they're going to teach me entrepreneurial ship.

How much are you making off of these golf outings? Because I do not believe you.

So then they're riding along with their dads and Dame lights a joint. And he's like, hey, man, you want to you want to smoke? And Seth's like, oh, yeah, you know, I work kind of for a public company, so I can't really do that. You know, shove my face in poop cakes. I can do that. You got that around. You got anyone's wife. I can kind of, you know, sexually harass in a fun way that I can do that. I don't know. Weed. Yeah.

Yeah, see this like fun, loving, down with everything Seth persona you're seeing. It's just a facade for TV. I'm just actually a pretty soulless corporate guy, unfortunately. So no weed for me. Thank you very much. I don't know that Big Lots is going to like that. Put my hands up. Walk away slowly. It's called Big Lots, not Big Joints.

So Brooks is like, whatever, dad. So then Seth is asking Eva if her and Dame ever hang out. And she's like, yeah, all the time. And then Seth is like, you hear that? You hear that? You hear that? Like child and parent hang out all the time. So it's totally normal, Seth. It's totally normal, Brooks. It's totally fine. He's like, ew, gross, disgusting.

So now they're talking about Charlie and cause Ava didn't go to that thing. So he's like, yeah, it was like cute seeing Charlie with his family, but like, it was weird. It was like freaking out. She's like, Oh my God, he's such a drama queen.

And so she's like, yeah, I'm not going to reach out to him because like it's not our responsibility. You know, my dad's thing is like it's like super rooted. Yeah. So we're like rooted together. He's like, yeah. But my dad is like trying to make me go to therapy. And like then he like left halfway through the therapy and was like, oh, no, this is Charlie. Charlie said that someone tried to make him go to like therapy. And then he left like halfway through the therapy. And he was like, I'm not doing therapy. Yeah.

Yeah, but then he started saying to me and Dylan and George, we should all go. He was like, you guys should go. And so we see that Charlie's act like therapy is disgusting, but then he's telling everyone that they need therapy.

And Eva's like, "What?" I mean, first of all, I have a therapist. Second of all, I have an icon as a mother, which is therapy in and of itself. Yeah, first of all, so do I. I mean, we all need fucking therapy. I mean, take the help. I used to be the type where I would hate therapy too. And when my parents were getting divorced, they put me in a therapist's office and I literally sat there and I was like, I will not talk. I was so stubborn because I was like, I know I'm gonna be a model at some point. So like, why do I even need the therapy?

And Brooks was like, yeah, I had to go to therapy when I was eight because I was seeing ghosts. Yeah. There were like my house. Yeah. I thought I thought I saw elves in the stairway. Oh, so you didn't have to go to therapy because your parents were having a high profile divorce because your mom was a fashion designer. Dad was like a super famous entrepreneur.

No, I just thought I saw elves. That's it. But then I found out in therapy that it was really elves. It was just my dad dressed in tights trying to turn my mom on. Ew. Yeah. I survived. So Seth is like, yeah, well, who was there when you were crawling like a Navy SEAL at three years old because you were scared of monsters in your bedroom? What did I do? What did I do? Well, you'd make a little bed and sleep on the floor.

And I'd sleep on the floor next to your bed. I didn't make it. That was a dog bed from HomeGoods. But still, I put it there and you curled up and you slept in it. Remember what you tried to do? Tried to sew it all together, but you couldn't get the needle through the hole. And I said, that's okay, son. Mom works.

Later on we found out that the reason why I was seeing elves everywhere was because Chloe and I would walk around the house and always go, Slay! Slay! After a while you can only make so many Christmas references before you see the elves. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.

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Screaming like a woman in the rain. He's like, not the gavanchi or whatever. And Brooks is like, oh my God, this vest has goose down. It can't get wet. Which I loved. And I was anxious about it. I was like, he's right. That goose can't get, that goose down can't get wet. And he's like, oh my God, my phone fell off. Oh my God, the elves took my phone. Dad, the elves took my phone. What do I do? He's like, um, it's right here. Oh yeah, fine.

He's like, Dad, my phone's gone. Can you put my location on? He's like, I don't know how to put your location. My location's in your phone. He's like, no, it's raining. What am I supposed to do out here in the rain? It was so good. So then we go to Brooks' apartment, and he's inviting everybody to a surprise party for Chloe. And she writes back, Brooklyn, okay, but only because I love you, bub.

And also, I'll be late. Don't do us any favors, Gia. Okay? There's no good reason why you should be on this show. You're off in Jersey. You're a totally different vibe from everyone else. You're just honest. That way they can put Teresa in the promos. So show up at the shoot date and be happy about it. Yeah. So then we go to Georgia having a meeting with Omar at his office. This is where we see all the whiteboards and stuff. Yeah.

And she's like, yeah, I think it's ironic that I'm dating someone in finance because like he's not even in finance. He's in crypto. Yeah. Normally wouldn't do finance, but crypto is different because it's like the antithesis of finance. It's like way it's like anarchist. It's like radical, you know? Yes. All those crypto bros. Totally, totally anarchists. Right. Like this is I mean, I feel like I'm in.

I feel like I'm I'm watching Robin Hood. Okay. Look at these guys upending the system for the poor. So then George is like, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't come over last night. I was watching a really good movie and like popped a bottle of Shandong. Yeah. Have you ever have you ever seen Sleepless in Seattle? It's like a movie from olden times. It was so good.

So she's like, we need to think about our business. He goes, you want a whiteboard? And she goes, hell yes. Okay, so here's the thing. Give me a marker. Okay, here's what I like. I like super modern parties, right? So what's my number one priority in life? And he's like, when Harry Met Sally quotes. No. Carrie Bradshaw quotes. No, the other thing. Having fun. Fun. I believe in fun. Okay, I'm going to write fun down. Fun.

okay exactly okay so number two number two what i don't know i'm just saying number two no not poop not poop number two just come up with some concepts uh sexy and cool sexy and cool you know it hello okay i've written fun sexy and cool i think we figured it all out it's all written on the whiteboard we know the next concept okay let's apply for a grant

So she's like, here's my philosophy from my club. If you're wearing heels, I'm not gonna let you in. And if you're wearing like a suit, I'm not gonna let you in. And then it closes up on her boyfriend who's in a suit.

And she's like, if you work in finance, I'm not going to let you in. And it stays closed up on him just looking like stoned as hell. She's like, and then number three letters. She goes, what's more your priority? Money. That's right. Money. So like, you know what? Like American psycho is a really good example of like the archetype of a person. I don't want coming to my man. I don't want serial killers. Okay. This is not a place for serial killers in high heels. Yeah.

She's a real innovator, I have to say. I love that she's going to corner the market on parties by making them fun. They're going to be fun, sexy and cool, serial killers not allowed, no high heels unless they're on my friends, you can't wear a suit unless you're my boyfriend, you can't work in finance unless you're my boyfriend.

This show is hilarious. And she's like, okay, guess what we're going to do? Because young kids like us, they like nerdy things. Bowling. Bowling. Georgia bowling has been back for like 15 years now. I know.

She's like, okay, I've got this great idea. Okay. So like America and middle America, middle America loves taking a ball and rolling it down a surface. Okay. So I told my mom, we went bowling and she was like, I love bowling. I was like, oh my God, my mom loves bowling. And then I had to explain to her, it was not just throwing bowls at the wall. And she said, oh, nevermind. So we don't have that much in common, but we do love that. And I'm like, wait a second. This could be a great unifier.

a like a cool bowling party i'm like bull moore lanes has been doing this for 25 years in new york city just go to the where's in the village somewhere like this is yeah but like fresh concept it became like super trendy yeah like 20 years ago 15 20 years ago and she's acting like wow i went to lucky strike last weekend and it was old like it seemed old and run down that's how long it's been yeah it's crazy it used to be impossible wow it's like an old bowling alley now you know

Remember that was like the thing you would go there and you'd have to wait two hours to get onto a lane It was such a such a thing and then like Highland Park. There's that like very trendy old-timey bowling alley That's like hipster. It's like we're like if you're like pretending you're in Mumford and Sons you'd go to bowl So like she's like I just figured it out guys trendy bowling so That's her concept

Me and my mom don't have a lot in common, but we both bowl. Do you understand? So here's what I want. Moms in flats who don't serial kill. Now, how do we make it sexy and cool? Hmm. Okay. We put bikinis on the balls. Got it. Great.

One piece is on the mom, so I'm not a monster. So then we go to Ava meeting up with Charlie and she basically Charlie's like, so how can I make his friends again? She's like, apologize. He is OK, then I'm sorry. But you need to mean it. He goes, but I do. And she's like, no, you don't. Like, I'm trying to help you be friends with everybody. And then you get like sassy. And I don't like that. OK, fine.

And he's like, okay, then I'm sorry. But also I'm good with Riley because I also went to apologize to her today. It's like my apology to her day. Yeah. We went to Dumbo and then we see a flashback of Riley with Charlie. And it's like, okay. She's like, okay, I'm here to listen to you. He's like, well, I was going to say the same thing to you. She's like, yeah, but I already explained it to you. Like, how do I explain it again? Why do I have to say it anymore? Okay. What are you listening to? He's like, okay, well, no.

none of my actions ever came from a place of malice or anything like that i would never try to hurt anyone and it's kind of like a very paint by the numbers thing of like i didn't mean it

And he's like, I'm really sorry. And I shouldn't have undermined my apology. I just didn't want to. I just didn't want to be painted in an unfairly villainized light. I just wanted to be a villain for other reasons, but not for racial stuff, you know? And maybe I'm the, you know, maybe I'm triggered because my dad, this is my dad's fault. You won't be mad at my dad. You can be mad at my dad. He's like, I'm an asshole, but I'm not a racist asshole. I'm just an asshole who says racially insensitive things.

And she's like, whatever, Charlie. So then we go back to Ava and Charlie and she's like, I mean, like you're an AA basically. Like you have to go apologize to everyone. And he's like, what is that? Like a ninth step? She's like, yeah, kind of. So then they seem to be okay. And he's such a dumbass.

charlie's like by the way have you have you seen anyone like hudson and ariana and gia all those poor people from other tv shows and ava's like not really just brooks like oh really because ariana's kind of growing on me for no good reason she's like really in what way you have a crush on her he's like yeah maybe i'll try to fuck her low-key i don't know she's like charlie which is his way of being like

He didn't like that Hudson stopped him like a few episodes ago. So I think he's like, I know what I'll do. I'm going to cruel intentions it and sleep with this girl and ruin it from the inside out. I mean, honestly, I think he's just kidding. I think he's just saying Ariana's growing on me. She goes, what do you have a crush? He's like, oh yeah, yeah, I have a real crush. I'm really going to try to fuck Ariana. That's how I took it. But of course it's a reality show. So they're going to take it and repeat it until it's like, oh my God, Charlie's trying to fuck Ariana now.

And then he sent a text and said, "Maybe I'll be at home having sex with your sister. Can you even believe it?" - This episode even opened with that, with Brooks being like, "Well, yeah, but then he sent me a text and he was like, 'Maybe I'll come over or maybe I'll be at my apartment with your sister.'" It's like, okay, it's episode four. We're gonna need to drop this at some point. Okay? - Seriously.

So she's like, you know, he has a boyfriend for like, she has a boyfriend for two years. He goes, yeah, but like, I'm not actively going to try. But if it falls into my lap, like if I get like the smallest green light. So then we go to Hudson and Ariana meeting designer Ron. We don't know what Ron designs really. Do we? Do they tell us? He like designs aprons for William Sonoma. But they're like, okay, put on this hat and a leather jacket. Go.

All right. And his name is Ron. So go with it. So they go check out his clothing places like the fashion district, whatever. And she's like, yeah, I've wanted a clothing line forever, but like, I don't know how to do anything. So like, that's what part of New York is about. You know, like you come here, you don't get educated. You just talk to people like Ron. They, you know, tell you how to like make your dreams come true without like actually doing any work.

So Ron's like, all right, kids, I'm glad you came here. I've been waiting 13 years for someone to come upstairs in this office building for me to give them some hard knowledge. When I started my brand, I went in with the strategy and identifying three brands. Okay, so do you have three brands in your head that you like? And like, you'd like how they're executed. Okay, go. And they're like, McDonald's, Pep Boys, Starbucks. Okay.

Well, those are brands. They do wear uniforms. Okay. You're hired. Whoa, cool. So then they really, but like, tell me about the empire you want to start. And Hudson's like, well, like we're both obsessed with clothes. Like we don't go like somewhere in a trash bag, even though I could make a trash bag look good. How would you do that?

I don't know. So Ron's like, okay, so if you're creating the product, where is it going to be shipped? Where is it going to be housed? You know, how's it being paid for? Where are you guys at with that process? And Ariana goes, um, we've been saving up. They have no answers. Okay. Well, whatever you think you have, it's not enough. All right. What's your mission statement? Impossible. No, like your mission statement.

Tortilla chips. All right, this isn't a game show, okay? This is supposed to give me the first word that comes to your head. Do you know what a mission statement is? I don't. Okay. It's like the idea for your company. I like clothes. Okay. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Why did I ever take that wine cooler from Kim Zolciak 20 years ago?

All right. Give me your elevator pitch. Well, we want to, we don't want to sell it in elevators. No, no, no. Elevator pitch. It's like you, you're in an elevator ride with someone. You got 10 seconds. Why would I, we have a walk up. No, I know. But like, theoretically you're in an elevator. You're pitching me the ideas. Okay. All right.

This brand to me is all about people feeling great and what they're wearing. It's going to be an amazing quality as well as you're going to stand up taller and we're going to start out with pastels. The mission statement is pastels. And I'm very known for pastels, which is why I wear only black on this TV show. Like little hearts everywhere. I love little hearts, which is why I don't wear them. And we'll have details. The mission statement are pastel little hearts. Ta-da. And they just kept...

They showed her face, but they put an elevator graphic in front of her, and they just kept, like, closing the door on her face. It was so funny. It's like just bashing her head in the elevator. Like, we believe in pastel streetwear. We believe in hearts. Okay, so you're going to have pastel jogging pants with hearts. Sounds great. Just go on Timu and slap your fucking label on it like we know you're going to do anyway.

So Ron's like, okay, well, there's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm, a tremendous amount of enthusiasm. And that, you know, but the plan's not there. Okay. Focus, focus, focus. Okay. And here's another pearl of wisdom that I have because I've been doing it and I've done it. This business will aid you in dog years. Seven for everyone. Your relationship is going to be challenged. Okay. And Ariana goes, well, what doesn't kill you make you stronger? Yeah. That's what I thought. So a kid, it's called heroin. Okay. You can go to the brink and come back. Enjoy fashion. Yeah.

She's like, but to get adored angels into the open, we need to get moving. So I can't wait. We're going to samples. Yeah, we're going to get samples and then we're going to have a drop and then we're going to have another drop and then we're going to have another drop. We're going to drop so many things.

yeah and i love um they're like hudson's just totally unbothered by all this because he's just like i'm rich it'll be fine yeah he's like i don't whatever she needs to do to give her something to do but um if

if you're serious go to school you know what i mean like parsons is right there it's right right there right there right there honey so um we go to chloe's 23rd birthday party and they're like oh my god cheers chloe so then uh brooks and ava are talking about the charlie date and him apologizing and brooks is like do you think loki has feelings for you like loki she's like oh my god stop

You really think it's like totally platonic? I look at like Charlie as like my gay best friend. Like there's like no way he could have a crush on me. Like he did say he would hook up with Ariana though, even though she has a boyfriend. What? No, he didn't. I cannot wait to tell him that unless you give me something more to start a fight with Ariana in this very episode. Work on it.

So then Amira's there. We haven't seen Amira in forever. Like she wasn't even on last episode and now she's finally showing up here. And Ava's talking to her and she's like, cause Amira just met Ariana for the first time, I think. So Ava's like, did you know that Ariana's a fashion designer? What? I did not know that. And she's like, yeah, she told me. I was a little surprised. Cause like, I can't tell if I'm being like, I'm surprised that she's a fashion designer has like a negative connotation in what you're saying, Ava. Yeah.

she's like well i don't mean it in a negative way it just means that like when i see her it doesn't give like i'm starting a fashion line because i'm a fashion designer honestly it's a fair point it's you know it's a smoothie it's a fair point i think it's a fair point too and i don't think she said anything like horribly dissing her right she's just like oh

That girl never gave me any clue that she was a fashion designer. I mean, she hasn't talked about it. She hasn't asked Ava what it's like being a model in high fashion. Like,

There's been nothing about it. I don't think it was that bad. She doesn't dress... I mean, again, I'm not a fashion gay, but it's not like she dresses in a way that seems incredibly fashion forward. I don't know if what Ariana, if what she wears is silly or basic. I don't know if it's basic or not, but it's not fashion. It's not cutting edge or anything. So she's like, she wants to work in fashion and she hasn't...

in any of the conversations, there's nothing that she said that's indicated that she has like a massive interest in fashion beyond like, oh, here's the thing I want to do. So she's like, what? I don't get it.

So then Ava's like, do you not agree? And Amara's like, well, I had a friend in high school or college who would say things like that. And it's just like, it's fucked up. Like, it's fucked up. You shouldn't say that about people. You know, it's not classy to talk shit about someone you just met. I mean, why are you intentionally talking someone down to make yourself feel better? Like, be a good person, bitch. So then Brooks goes right over to Ariana and raps.

Riley's like, Brooks, you were talking to Ava for so long. What were you talking about? Yeah, what were you talking about? We were wondering because everyone's been off in their own groups. Guys, I don't want to have to do this. Let me roll back on the sofa. No, guys, I don't want to have to do this. It's not a big deal. Stop forcing me. Stop pulling my arm. Spit it out. I'm being ripped apart. Ava says that you're a terrible fashion designer and you're ugly and stupid and she can't believe you're going to have a fashion

They like asked me the same question like five times. Like, what was I supposed to do? Yeah.

So then Ariana's like, bitch, I got my clothes out of boxes today. So why don't you fuck off? All my cool clothes are in a box. I just happen to be stuck wearing this Forever 21 today. Yeah, why don't you go back to the actual circus with your shorts and your little shirt and shut the fuck up? I mean, she's wearing gold sparkly shorts, like telling me like,

I have like no style. Like if I wanted to go to Forever 21, I would have. And I love Forever 21. Just not the sparkle section.

That's like bullshit. I want Ava with the bitch ass attitude. Like for real, honestly, I think it's rude as shit. I don't even know what's going on. I know Ava's a model. I didn't know she had a clothing line. Apparently she's, that's what she's best known for her, whatever. So she knows what's best for her. So Riley and then Ava go to the bathroom and then Amira knocks on the door and, um,

and they're like they kiki for a little bit and then ava winds up sitting down next to brooks and georgia and ava's like yeah i was just telling chloe that she should dance at the bar and george is like okay be chill because like don't freak out about this but there's a situation brewing someone with heels wants to come into this bar it's disgusting

They're probably going to serial kill people. But you didn't hear it from me. Okay, well, guess what's going on in there? Someone said that you said blah, blah, blah. So then we cut to Ariana. She's like, Amara, I know she's your really good friend, but... And then we go back to Brooks and he's like, Gia, Ariana and Riley were like, what are you guys talking about? So I was talking about how you were surprised that Ariana has a clothing brand. And Ava's like...

Brooks, what the hell? Why would you say that? It's not meant to be serious. Like it's that being said, I'm not going to pretend I didn't say it, I guess. So I guess I'll say it to her face. So she goes to sit next to Ariana and Ariana is still making this big deal out of it. And she's like, oh yeah. Oh no. She's in the bathroom still. She's like, I just wanted to have a stupid little streetwear brand that I can build off of until I have the money. Cause like, I'm sorry, my parents can't pay for everything. Cause I'm paying their fucking bills.

I love you, Brooks. And thank you for introducing me to these people generally. But I don't know if some of the people are for me because I don't know what the fuck is going on. I literally feel like this girl's Regina George. I didn't know we were in Mean Girls before. I'm sorry. What'd you say? I can't believe a model would be a mean girl. This was totally shocking.

I know, right? So then Ava's like, I mean, Georgia, it's just that every time I've seen her, I don't think she has the best style for a fashion designer. Okay, before I was like, what she said isn't really that bad. And then she makes it worse. Yeah. And Georgia's like, oh, yeah.

And so Gia and Ariana sit next to them. And Ava's like, are you okay? She says, are you? Like, why are you coming for my brand that you don't even know about? Like, I barely even know about it. I just came up with hearts today on the fly. So wrong to like pastels. And that is the end. That's the cliffhanger. How will this confrontation pan out? So we'll see. But just to be clear,

What Ava said wasn't very nice, but yeah, being a fat, a high fashion model does give her more experience than you who haven't done that. And she's also the daughter of an actual fashion designer who's pretty successful. So yeah, I would think that she would know more than you and you should probably just eat some humble pie and like try and learn something and be like, Hey,

listen, you're right. I don't have a lot of experience. I don't really know what I'm doing. It's just always been my dream. And I know you know more than me. Maybe you can help me out or introduce me to your mom or like point me in the right direction. Yeah. And like, we haven't really seen her in like a lot of streetwear or that interested in streetwear. So we've been worried for years that she's going to end up on the streets and I was going where, but

But yeah, I mean, look, also, Ariane, you're going to have to toughen up because if this is the thing that's going to send you, I can't imagine people. The world of fashion is not known for being nice or polite and genuine. So buck up because it's going to be a long ride for you. Get used to it. All right. That being said, it's all done. Fun episode. It's done. And so are we.

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