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Cafeteria wars

2025/1/22
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Noelle King: 我关注到美国现在普遍对加工食品持负面态度,罗伯特·弗洛里·肯尼迪小儿子提议立即将加工食品从学校午餐中剔除,这反映了社会对健康饮食的关注。 Miles Bryan: 通过走访学校和采访相关人士,我了解到提供健康午餐的挑战,例如满足美国农业部(USDA)的要求、遵守预算以及雇佣合格厨师等。 Reece Powell: 作为一家致力于社会正义的学校食品公司CEO,我认为我们的使命是为孩子们提供新鲜、健康、未经加工的食品,与鸡块等加工食品形成鲜明对比。我们使用全天然食材,但现行系统并非为提供全天然食材而设计,这增加了我们向监管机构证明其符合规定的复杂性。 Darian DeVar: 我是一名厨师,负责学校午餐的烹饪。我们现在提供健康美味的食物,例如全麦意大利面、混合蔬菜和自制乳清干酪,孩子们都很喜欢。与过去相比,现在的蔬菜新鲜且经过调味。 Jane Black: 学校午餐的历史是一个很有趣的案例研究。改善学校午餐并非易事,因为这涉及到历史原因和复杂的规章制度。学校午餐计划从一开始就同时服务于儿童营养和农业利益。早期的学校午餐通常在学校现场烹饪,而非使用预加工食品。里根总统时期的预算削减导致学校取消了现场烹饪,转而使用更便宜的预加工食品。米歇尔·奥巴马的倡议旨在改善学校午餐的健康状况,但这一举措受到了来自各方的阻力,例如,根据学校午餐的规定,少量番茄酱被算作蔬菜,这引发了争议。学校午餐计划的历史反映了美国一个世纪以来的优先事项,既要照顾儿童的健康,又要方便企业。目前存在一股改善饮食的社会力量,但将这种力量转化为实际改变仍然面临挑战,彻底改革学校午餐需要大量的资金投入,包括雇佣厨师和建设厨房。将好的饮食理念付诸实践是一个漫长的过程。 Wesley Parr: 现在的学校午餐比以前好,食材新鲜。 Jamar Jackson: 以前的学校午餐很糟糕,看起来像淤泥。

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This chapter explores the history of school lunches in America, highlighting the challenges of reforming the system and the role of processed foods. It introduces Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s perspective and the complexities of the school lunch program.
  • About half of the school lunch program consists of processed foods.
  • Robert F. Kennedy Jr. aims to remove processed foods from school lunches.
  • The history of school lunches reveals the difficulties in changing the American food system.

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RFK Jr. is the latest in a long line of reformers who have tried to clean up school lunch. The history of those attempts illustrates how hard it is to change the American food system.

This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King.

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Healthy cafeteria food options at IDEA Public Charter School in northeast Washington, DC. Photo by Miles Bryan.

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