REVEALED: How the Government Ghosts Its Own Records (Ep.220)
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That's what I'm scared about in 2020. But rightly. Because I think he's an illegitimate president that didn't really win. So how do you, you know, fight against that in 2020? You are absolutely right. He's an illegitimate president in my mind. Would you be my vice presidential candidate? Folks, look, I absolutely agree. Trump didn't actually win the election in 2016.

He lost the election and he was put in the office because of a Russian's interference. Trump knows he's an illegitimate president. The president-elect, although legally elected, is not legitimate. I don't see this president-elect as a legitimate president. You said you believe that Russia's interference altered the outcome of the election. I do. We have a president who, if in fact it is proven, has been assisted by the Russians and may in fact not be a legitimate president. The one thing that Trump

is fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was. In 2016, America was grappling with some shocking allegations. We were told that our election had been stolen. It was hijacked by the Russians. That the duly elected president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, had colluded with a foreign

adversary to subvert democracy itself. It wasn't just political intrigue. It was framed as treason, the gravest of offenses, the unraveling of everything that we hold sacred, our vote, our sovereignty, our republic. And for months, the headlines screamed Trump-Russia collusion. Night after night, pundits assured us that the walls were

closing in. There were secret meetings, dark dossiers, hidden tapes. The media spoke not of allegations but of inevitabilities. An illegitimate presidency brought, bought and paid for by Vladimir Putin. And so we were waiting for the reckoning.

But what came instead was silence, then confusion, and then real revelation. The Mueller report arrived and delivered what May didn't want to hear. No charges for conspiracy, no smoking gun, no collusion. Then came the Durham report.

It told a darker tale, not about Trump, but about the investigators, that the FBI had launched a full investigation on thin, unverified intelligence, that the Steele dossier, the linchpin was funded by political opponents, that facts were bent to fit a narrative, that America had been caught in a hall of mirrors built not by Russia, but by our own institutions.

And just like that, what started out as a scandal about Trump in Russia began to look like a scandal about the FBI, the intelligence community, and a weaponized political machine.

Sound familiar? In the shadow of Watergate, Nixon fell not only to his own paranoia, but I guess to the creeping power of the bureaucracy that he thought he could control, but obviously could not. JFK decades earlier warned of the very monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that could emerge when secrecy trumps the will of the people. It's a pattern. The deep state always

flexes when it fears losing control. And what does it say about America today? The truth is not sacred, that power continues to protect itself, that those who cry loudest about democracy's fragility may be the very ones cracking its foundation.

Russia collusion was never really about Trump. It was never about Russia. It was about whether we as a people still care about facts, about process, about liberty over narrative. It solidified what many of us had suspected for years, that any American, irrespective of political affiliation, can be targeted, investigated, ruined based on nothing more than political convenience.

And that's a real threat to our democratic republic. And the story keeps getting worse. We have more Russia collusion updates for all of you and so much more to discuss with Federalist CEO and my former boss, Sean Davis. Sean, thank you so much for being here. Well, thank you for having me.

So the Federalist has been on top of Russia collusion for a long time, like just excellent reporting on this topic. And I want to get your reaction to some updates from your website via the always impressive Margo Cleveland. So, Sean, the Federalist unveiled this troubling detail about how special counsel Robert Mueller's office hid information from investigators. I guess it turns out that the FBI's internal case management system contains a classification called

prohibited access, which is this coding that renders documents completely invisible to agents and investigators without certain special access. So unlike restricted access files, which still alert users to the existence of hidden content, prohibited access creates

false negatives in searches, which I guess leads users to believe that there's no relevant records that exist at all. So basically the feature hid important information related to the Trump investigation. Sean, could there be criminal charges here if investigators, defense attorneys, congressional oversight bodies were denied access to really important information?

I certainly hope so. I've been banging the drum for, gosh, eight years now that unless somebody goes to prison for what was done in the Russia collusion hoax, it's going to keep happening again and again and again. And what we had here, it wasn't just someone trying to hide stuff they didn't want other people to find. It was actually a wide-ranging criminal conspiracy to deprive people of their rights.

So think about this. Imagine you are a defendant and you've been charged by the federal government with something. You have a right as a defendant to know all the evidence against you. You also have a right to know all of the evidence that the government may have, which may exonerate you. And this is something that goes back a very, very long time in case law and in statutory rights. And the government has a responsibility

to go through and basically dig through all its files, do a census of everything it has, and turn over to the defense anything it has, whether exonerating or indicting. And then it's up to the defense to make the best case they can for why either the government wasn't allowed to charge someone with this or why the government maybe didn't have the evidence to support a charge. And what they did in this case

over eight plus years was they hid information that may well have led people to be exonerated in court. There may be people in prison or with criminal records today

who had their rights violated deliberately by their own government in order to get these political charges to stick. So it is a massive, massive scandal. I think a lot of us who had followed Russiagate kind of suspected something like this was happening. Anyone who's ever done any sort of FOIA work, which is Freedom of Information Act work,

or investigation into a government knows that they lie. I mean, I've had documents that I've requested in FOIAs, which I know for a fact exist, that I was told, oh, no, nothing like that exists at all. So we've known for a very long time that the government does this to normal citizens and journalists trying to get information. What we didn't know and what is very new and very disturbing is that the government was actually conspiring to hide evidence that may well exonerate people that the government was trying to put into prison, and that's criminal.

Yeah, I mean, what you're saying here is that this is just beyond Russia collusion. I mean, certainly that's an important piece of the puzzle, but that more people, more cases are involved here. Do you think, could you just give me an idea if you have any thoughts on what other topics or people could have been targeted by this feature, right, that had information hidden with this feature?

Oh gosh, I mean the sky's the limit. And the way I think about it is someone who goes and robs a bank, that's probably not the first crime they ever committed. They probably started stealing cash from a parent's purse or wallet. Then they might have moved to shoplifting. They didn't start by going and doing a massive heist on a bank vault. So in this case here, the people behind this didn't just start hiding information on the Russia collusion case. I mean,

For all we know, this may have been happening across the board. It may have been happening in terrorism cases. You know, the FBI got a bad rap justifiably for many years for creating the crimes it was going to prosecute in a terror terrorism cases. They would go and find some lonely, uh,

religious extremist somewhere they would start grooming him they would urge him to do crimes they would tell him how to do and they give the whole plan and then we said when when that person finally said oh yeah I'm gonna go and do this with the help of all these federal informants and fed agents then they arrest him they're like haha look at us we got this terrorist aren't we great we're keeping America safe yeah so like

I'm worried that I lack the imagination to think about all the different cases and subjects that they may have been doing this on. I mean, I assume they did it on J6. I assume they were doing it with COVID. I assume they were doing it on Russiagate. I'd love to know if they were doing it on the multiple assassination attempts against Trump.

It is a scandal of epic proportions, and I've been a broken record on this. If someone doesn't go to prison for it, if lots of someones don't go to prison for it, it will happen again and again and again until we don't even have a country anymore. Yeah, and at the very least, Sean, do you know if the admin is under any kind of process to dismantle this feature or release everything that's been hidden with it? Is there a process in place right now to stop this from continuing?

I hope so. But think about how difficult it is. It's my understanding that these were some whistleblowers who either found it or were aware of it. They went and talked to Charles Grassley, who I think is probably the best investigator in all of Congress and who has a very well-earned reputation for protecting whistleblowers.

But the thing is, how do you find something that's invisible? How do you go into a system which is designed to hide things from you and find what it's hiding? I've never been in the Sentinel system, which is what it's called. I don't know how it works. I would hope they have people going through it. They've got server experts and programmers and all that.

But if somebody wants to hide something and make it invisible, I genuinely don't know how you find it. It's harder than finding a needle in a haystack. Yeah, I mean, it kind of comes to this point that I think a lot of us have been blinded

banging the drum on that Trump is inheriting really a hostile government. I mean, everything is set up to prevent them from actually making the reforms that the American people have called for with the mandate in this last election cycle. One of the things that has stopped

this president from actually carrying out the mandate has been judicial tyranny, Sean. This is another topic that The Federalist has been incessantly covering from the onset. You guys have been doing a great job. I want to get your reaction to Federalist editor in chief Molly Hemingway pressing Carolyn Levitt on the admins actual plan to tackle what is essentially a judicial coup. Take a listen. The second Trump administration, to reference what you said at the beginning, seems to be

subject to an effort to stymie the agenda using rogue lower court judges.

You mentioned that the Supreme Court could and should do something to rein in these lower court judges. Also, Congress could do something about it. But they don't seem terribly interested in it. It also seems there's not much of an actual coordinated effort from this White House to take and tackle this effort from judges, Democrats and other people using these judges to stymie the agenda. Is there an actual...

effort by this White House to tackle this issue in a comprehensive way? And if so, what is it? There is an effort by this administration to tackle these rogue judges and the injunctions and the blockades that we have faced in our broken judicial system in every case. I mean, we have seen time and time again these lower district court judges ruling against

this administration and the president's basic executive authority and powers and this administration is fighting every single one of those battles in court including already the uh... block that came down from the trip that's here uh... court the idea for court last night uh... and as on my way out here to the briefing room i understand that there was another district court judge right here in washington d_c_ who ruled against the president's care of power it's a really important question by molly but sean i didn't even play the full clip here because carolyn levin didn't actually

say anything in this answer. She kind of goes on for four minutes listing off the grievances from these lower courts, but not actually saying what the plan is. So she essentially just lists off all these radical injunctions. Molly presses her again. And then Molly says, I understand you're challenging the injunction in court,

but is there going to be anything more than that? And then Caroline basically responds with nothing again. She says, there was an effort by this administration to tackle these rogue judges and the injunctions and the blockades that we have faced and our broken judicial system, but she gives no specifics whatsoever.

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Yeah, I thought it was a really, really interesting question and very interesting answer for what it didn't include. And I think what's happening right now is that there is a major battle within the White House, an internal debate happening about whether

what to do with all of these rogue district judges who are claiming for themselves powers that don't belong to them, that are acting like unelected kings and presidents. You see all these things that they do. A judge who was never elected, never won a single vote, has more power in these rogue districts than even a Supreme Court judge, which is crazy.

Because you can't, as a Supreme Court justice, go and unilaterally put in a national injunction or a temporary restraining order preventing the president from doing anything. You actually have to get the whole court to go along with it. But what I think is going on is that there's an internal debate about whether they fight this through kind of the typical process.

You go through the appellate process and you file briefs. And then maybe in a couple of years, it works its way up to the Supreme Court. And then if you're lucky, after three or four years, you get vindicated, by which time your presidency is over. So that's one option. And that seemed to be what Carolyn Leavitt was saying was the administration's plan. They were just going to keep doing what lawyers do, filing briefs and arguing in court and hope it worked out.

The other side of the debate, I think, which is probably best represented by Stephen Miller, is that we have a specific constitutional order which gives specific enumerated powers to different people within the different branches. Those powers are being violated. The restrictions in the Constitution are being violated by these rogue judges and that it is an abomination both against the presidency and the Congress, but also against the American people. And therefore, the president has an obligation and a duty

to ignore lawless, rogue, tyrannical rulings from a lot of these judges. And so I think what we saw in that question and answer was something of like a nice terrain of battle. It would appear that kind of like the, we'll call it the traditionalists, at least at this point, are winning in the administration.

But even if you believe Trump should just go and ignore these people because what they're doing is nonsense, you have to understand that as a political matter, you just can't go and do that and assume it's going to work out. It could be that the administration is waiting for the right case. They're waiting for the right judge to buck.

It's hard to say, but I think there is absolutely a battle and a debate raging within the White House right now. And it's going to be probably the most important one that they have for all of his presidency, because in the first presidency, we had the deep state trying to take Trump out and stymie his presidency. And now we have a rogue judiciary doing it. And it's just simply not sustainable. If the only people who are allowed to be president and do things are Democrats, which is what

is basically the precedent that has been set by the courts here, then you don't have a country at all. Yeah, I mean, there's this narrative that we have to follow by the rules. We have to play by the Constitution. We'll just file these briefs. Meanwhile, the other side is not playing by the rules at all. I mean, they've done exactly the opposite of what the founding fathers intended for the judicial branch. They've just thrown the Constitution out the window. I think you've had a few pieces that you've published with The Federalist just quoting founding fathers talking about the danger of

of activist judges, of judicial tyranny that again, the left is weaponizing currently against the executive and it doesn't seem like the executive is doing very much meaningfully to fight back. I wanna talk to you also, Sean, about Harvard because Harvard has basically been synonymous with American academic excellence over the years. And yet a lot of elite schools

They're pretty trash. Just to be honest, I went to one. They're pretty trash. And we know that they are still using affirmative action despite the SCOTUS ruling. Its professors and administrators are serial plagiarists, quietly accepting billions in foreign donations from China and Qatar. That's Harvard. And so now the Trump administration is fighting back on this issue. They're blocking federal funds. They're probing foreign influence. They're challenging DEI mandates, specifically at Harvard.

My question to you, Sean, is do you think this is actually going to fix Harvard? Can the Trump admin strong arm Harvard and other institutions into being good schools again?

Yeah, it's a great question. I'm not sure Harvard is fixable. I'm not sure any of the IBs are fixable. I went to one. I happened to be in a kind of a niche program at one, which was great. But the institution writ large was just a gigantic dumpster fire of Marxist nonsense. And so I think the question is,

Is Trump doing this because he wants to fix Harvard or is Trump doing this because he is using Harvard as a way of fixing, uh,

All of higher education, you know, which is a mess, whether it's the Ivies, whether it's private colleges or whether it's, you know, state colleges, which, you know, even in red states, a lot of these state colleges are a total disaster. And so I think what he's done is he's gone after the crown jewel of American academia. You know, for for decades, Harvard was the gold standard of what education was meant to be.

And I think its reputation has actually outlasted its utility and usefulness when you see what's being taught. And it's similar to the discussion we were having about judicial tyranny. To me, it's not a question of do we need to be more aggressive and ignore the law.

Harvard is the one ignoring the law right here. Higher education is ignoring the law. They're violating civil rights law. They're racially discriminating against people, especially whites and Asians. They're discriminating against men. And if you're a

If a bulk of your money is coming from federal grants, from federal scholarships, if a huge chunk of your students are there at the pleasure of the federal government through various student visas, then you better be obeying federal law when it comes to discrimination. And they're not. And they've been blatantly defying it for years, if not decades.

in contravention of Supreme Court rules saying, hey, you can't just go and discriminate people based on race because you don't want to have white people there. Like that's kind of like a bright line you can't cross in civil rights law. And they're doing it anyway. So I think Trump is using Harvard

which in my view is not fixable, is an example to every other institution of higher education that if you think you're exempt, watch what I do to Harvard. If you think you're going to escape this, watch what I do to Harvard. And it's probably going to be a little bit before we know whether it works, but I suspect that it has struck fear into the hearts of left-wing Marxist university professors all across the nation and administrators.

Well, that makes me optimistic, Sean. I mean, I hope that it has that kind of effect on Harvard and all these other institutions. At the same time, I do believe that they have completely abandoned their core mission. Harvard was founded in 1636 with the intention expressly of establishing a school to train Christian ministers. And if you read the original vision for Harvard, it's all about truth.

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the most that you possibly can without really addressing the deeper, more spiritual questions that I think are plaguing our institutions. And I'm here for it. I want to get your, speaking of institution, Sean, I want to get your reaction to another institution that has completely fallen, an American institution that is Disney. And I think that very

Of course, Disney's numbers have gone down recently. They are producing very trash content, nothing original, nothing creative. They've abandoned, I think, parents and people that would be their go-to consumers by embracing radical wokeism. But I think that the problems with Disney have been happening a lot longer

than most of us realized. I want to get your reaction to this video Disney put out. It was sort of a little PSA post 9/11 for kids and they actually delve into what it means to be an American in this little PSA. Sean, I want to get your reaction to this. Take a listen.

Everyone should be very sensitive to other cultures and religions. They're Americans, too, you know, and we shouldn't treat them any differently. That's what makes our culture so great, is that we're, you know, we're mixed up. We're not the same people. Because you'll hear people saying things, and sometimes people say things because they just don't know what else to do. They just have to point a finger and blame somebody. But, you know, we've seen through history that that doesn't work.

Being an American means being very diverse. You learn so much about everything. This country is based on bringing people from all over the world. I have five different nationalities in my background. I have different religions in my background, and that's what this country is based on, and we need to remember that. We need to remember that everyone is welcome in this country, and that's what makes it so great. It doesn't matter what color you are or religion, we all kind of have, you know, the same belief in love.

Now more than ever it's important for people like you to express themselves every day Sean this was 25 years ago like this this was what Disney was was putting out 25 years ago and they're at they're trying to answer this question of what it means to be an American and their message to American children is basically nothing Nothing, that's what it means to be an American nothing because it's all about diversity and nothing shared Sean What do you think about this message especially today? I?

Oh, my gosh. I'm glad you didn't have the shot of me up there while that was airing. You would have seen my eyes roll out of my head. What a bunch of nonsense. But but honestly, I actually want to defend Disney a little bit here. OK, now they they may be a good example of just how what it is to be American has been watered down with a bunch of leftist Marxist nonsense.

But this has actually been going on in this country for probably 100 years. Okay. This idea that America, you know, the mixing bowl and the melting pot and all this and that. Let's be honest about what America was founded for. People, settlers came here, not immigrants, settlers, because there was nothing to immigrate to. It was just raw land. There was no society to immigrate to. Settlers came here because they wanted to be able to freely worship Jesus Christ.

how they wished. America was a Christian nation founded mostly by Scottish and British Protestants. It was created for the purpose of having a place where you could come and worship Jesus Christ as you please. We have had this

idea put into our heads through schools for probably a hundred years that actually, no, no, no, America's a secular nation. They go and find some random letter from Thomas Jefferson talking about a separation of church and state, and they tell us, no, no, no, no, America's not Christian. America's totally secular. And in fact, you're not even allowed to call it a Christian nation because that would violate kind of this non-existent doctrine of separation of church and state. America was a Christian nation founded by Christians for the purpose of

of allowing Christians to flourish in their faith and in their work. And you can come here and you don't have to be a Christian, obviously. You can come here, you can believe what you like, but the entire foundation of the nation has been distorted

and destroyed. And it's just like any building, you have a weak foundation, eventually the building's gonna crumble. If you wanna take an agricultural metaphor, if you've got good soil, you're probably gonna have good crops. If you have bad soil, you're not gonna be able to grow anything. And our foundation, our soil were the Western Christian values that the founders brought here. And I think John Adams probably understood it better than anyone that this Republic was designed for a virtuous,

namely Christian people. It was not designed for secular, godless people. And we are at the point now where we are not a Christian people anymore. I don't think we are particularly virtuous people. And yet we're expecting all of these institutions that we stood up and all these rules and all these laws

to serve us the same way they did when we were a Christian nation. And it's just not going to work out that way. So, look, I think Disney's a bunch of nonsense and I think a lot of what they do is garbage, but I don't fault them entirely here. I think they're kind of just like the flotsam and the jetsam floating on the waves of all this secularist nonsense that was designed to get to the to destroy the foundation of this country.

Yeah, no, Shawn, I think it's such a good point. And as a young person, you really can't answer the question of who we are as an American because you're right, this has been a brainwashing enterprise for decades, for a very, very long time. We can't define who we are anymore. And John Adams said,

that our system, our country is meant for a moral and religious people. They didn't want us to be sectarian. They didn't want us to be, as you said in the Federalist group chat all the time, no sectarian fights in the chat. So the Catholics and the Protestants are supposed to be going at each other, but we are expressly a Christian nation. This has been completely abandoned and in fact is looked on quite negatively by our entire elite class.

for whatever reason, all of our institutions. And if you stand up and you say the things that you just said, Sean, you will be called by people within our own party, people on our own side, a member of the woke right. This is supposed to describe conservatives who they say,

adopt tactics of the woke left, so cancel culture, moral absolutism, government intervention for the purpose of traditionalism and nationalism. Sean, what are your thoughts to this argument from people on our own side who would say, you are a member of the woke right, you bigot?

Well, I actually don't think it's coming from people on our own side. It's coming from people who were Democrats until five seconds ago. They got thrown out of their party, so they needed a new place to go to and a bunch of new people to manipulate so they could stay in power. And then when Trump won again, a lot of people on the right realized, you know, the intellectual dark web or whatever. Hey, we don't actually need you. You can go back where you came from to the left and

And they've decided, oh, no, that's not fair. So in order to get our power back, we're just going to use nonsense words we made up like woke right to try and marginalize you. It's nonsense. OK, so woke is is an ideology. It is an ideology based entirely on identity that says your values and your beliefs and your thoughts are determined solely by you.

your skin color or your sexuality or like what you like having sex with and that determines whether You're gonna be in this part or this part of the power structure The idea this conflation that tactics and ideology are the same thing so that if people use the tactics of one side Obviously that makes them that side that's stupid like that's just dumb and dishonest

Look, politics is about power. And for a long time, people on the right have been told that it's actually wrong to use power, that your job is to get into government and actually not do anything. The best thing you can do is just stop the left.

That's not how power works and that's not how politics works. And so what you see are a bunch of people who are actually a defeat mechanism who don't like that people on the right are in charge. They certainly don't like to see the rise of true Christianity into the political realm anymore. And so what they're trying to do is prevent people

who believe the things that we do from actually being able to exercise power. And they think they can do it by using this like emotionally extortive language like woke right. It's nonsense, it's stupid, and anyone who uses it unironically is someone who should be laughed out of the room. Yeah, Sean, I mean, this is...

this is going to be something we're going to have to tackle because I said there are people on our own side and you're right. There are people who have been on our side for a very short amount of time and for some reason they think that they can dictate what it means to be a right winger in America when they were on the political left literally like you said five seconds ago. So great rebuff to that argument Sean and I want to be respectful of your time. So I appreciate this conversation. Where can people go to follow you and of course stay up to date with everything you are doing?

Yeah, check us out at TheFederalist.com and you can find me on X at Sean, S-E-A-N-M-D-A-V, where I do my best to make stupid liberals cry every day. Amazing. I love it. Sean, thank you so much for being here. To all of you listening, make sure to like and follow this podcast. If you want to follow me, my user is EvitaDuffy underscore one on Instagram and X, and I will see you all next time.

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