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Brooks Nader & Grace Ann Nader Cohost, Brooks & Gleb Real or Fake? + Taylor Swift Subpoenaed

2025/5/12
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Fran: 我很高兴 Brooks 和 Grace Ann Nader 能来做客,但同时也感到有点紧张。我一直认为 Nader 姐妹们应该一起做一个节目,她们都非常有趣和可爱。 Brooks Nader: Grace Ann 让我感到有点紧张,因为我是一个有点不受控制的人。我和 Gleb 的关系是真的,我们没有赢得《与星共舞》可能是因为我们在拖车里做了不该做的事。我不想看太多的电视,因为我会把那些问题带到我的脑海里。我们的真人秀节目名字与我们的教会背景有关。 Grace Ann Nader: 我现在的生活很棒,没有什么可抱怨的。我和我的姐妹们住在 Soho,正在拍摄我们的真人秀节目。我坚持使用我的双名。Mary Holland 正在和一个英国人交往,她的男朋友邀请我的父母去温布尔登。我真的希望 Mary Holland 的恋情能成功。 Mary Holland Nader: 我最近离开了一家非营利组织的工作。我喜欢使用冒号和括号组成的笑脸符号。Brooks 很早就和她的初恋结婚了,所以她没有在 20 多岁的时候在纽约约会过。

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What's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rhea and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday. Sorry for the delay everyone, but we have a very important co-host to end the Fran and Friends journey. Co-host today, Brooks and Grace Ann Nader. Guys, I am so excited you're both here. We are over the moon thrilled and I'm also shaking and sweating and terrified because she's here. But

But it's okay. Well, vice versa. Do you find it safer when you can control everything on your own? Or do you think like Grace Ann's going to put you on blast? She definitely finds it safer when she controls everything. She's going to answer all the questions for me. Why am I even here? I think I'm the one that she can't control. And that's why I'm a bit of a wild card and I make you sweat a little bit. Yeah. Shaking in your boots, I can tell. Do you think the other sisters listen to you more? They fall a little more in line with me.

When mommy says something, they do it. This one marches to the beater bar. There you go. Yeah. And it's a crazy beat. There you go. Well, I'm fired up because one, you have been on the show a few times. The first time you came on, we were in our old little teeny studio. Grace Ann was on the couch, went viral for telling an absolutely insane story about Grace Ann. She wasn't even on camera. Now she is. I went back to college and just was absolutely roasted by everyone.

There you go. Which is great. Which, why? Do we need to reiterate for those who didn't see the episode? Yeah, it was Lil Uzi cured my yeast infection. She had a yeast infection cured by Lil Uzi. Yeah, exactly. Iconic moment there. Dr. Ooze. Dr. Uzi. To this day, we still call him Dr. Uzi. Dr. Uzi Vert. So good. And.

And then the next time you came in, you were here with Camille Kostic. Yep. And there was potential nip slips for maybe the entire podcast. The whole episode was an OnlyFans video, basically. I mean, what's new? Yeah. And it was the funniest thing ever because this room, we are all girls except for Noah, our producer. Noah. And I kept being like, oh my God, Noah. And Brooks was like, Noah, just edit it. If you see my nip coming out.

Poor Noah. Why are you doing that to him? The blurred line's going off and on. His job is really tough. Yeah, yeah, right. Sorry, Noah. Extra editing tonight. Hard job. Somebody's got to do it. Honestly, I was like, it's fine. I'm so fine with a little nip slip. We never hurt nobody. No, no, no. And now you're my example, which is so funny because anytime a guest comes in that is... We had somebody last week who is on Bravo and she was in a...

amazing jumpsuit but it was strapless like just not even strapless it had straps just but and it kept kind of slipping a little bit she's like oh man I'm so sorry and I was like don't worry you're not you're not our first we should frame it we should frame it in the office so that it's kind of like this is the parameter and we'll blur you and it's exactly we're like this is not your first but guys I'm so excited you're here um you are all over I feel like you're traveling you're at every event you're at every party how is life going for you guys right now

Well, I guess since I'm a co-host, do you want to kick things off? Yeah. How is life going for you, girl? My life's going great. I mean, couldn't be happier. No complaints. No complaints over here. She never has a complaint.

Living in Soho with all my sisters. We're filming our reality show, which is the most fun project I've ever worked on ever. The only project you've ever worked on. Probably ever will. In entertainment, but yeah. Okay. And yeah, everything's great. And you finished school. I finished school. I got a new boyfriend. That's awesome. Amazing. Everything's really falling into place for me. She is kind of living the life. I'm kind of peaking. She doesn't own a single debit, credit, or any other card.

She just rolls with us or her boyfriend and says, I don't keep cards on me. So come on. That is not true. I am a client of Chase Bank. There you go. With my debit cards. She can withdraw cash if she needs to. I can withdraw if I need to. And also potentially overdraw. Yeah, she only overdraws. Very often so, yeah. Potentially overdraw. But we've all been there and that's probably been like the most fun early stages of everyone's young life in New York City. I think they have those memories of being like,

Will I be able to pay for my drinks at the bar? Totally. So rush. I mean, we were shopping the other day and my card declined. I was like, you know, one day I'm going to look back and laugh. Yeah. I'm like super rich. And I'm like, I hope that happens. Yeah. Manifest. Yeah. To me, it probably will. Yeah. I used to put like all of my rents on. I didn't know how credit cards worked when I dropped out of Tulane and

moved to the city and I was like oh my gosh I have a $12,000 free money card like this is amazing I put so many rents on it physically lost the card and then forgot it existed and then like two years ago it popped back up and was like

But then what happened was crazy. I got so lucky. I don't know how this happened. I got a letter from the bank that was like, oh, like during COVID, like, do you want us to like forgive this? And your credit score might drop or you can pay it. And I was like, forgive it? Yeah. And they did. And then my credit score went up. I mean, I don't even know how. I was like, that's amazing.

amazing like that forgiven thank you so much is it that easy i picked it for not i totally missed that bus but right you're like wow this whole this i got totally broke i'm like you were just forgiven yeah hundreds of thousands that was 12k by the way oh well

It was great. You guys, Brooks, you guys are actually all, everyone is co-hosting today, which is the whole panel that we're going to go through a bunch of our topics. I'm very excited. I'm very excited to see what you guys are tuned into right now because like you said, you are filming your own show. So I wonder if, you know, you have to get inspiration anywhere. So we'll run through some topics. But before we do all that, you are all living together now, right?

Yeah, you've got to come over. It's so crazy. I mean, honestly, four girls, one apartment, one dream, the whole thing. And we're all living in Soho. It's honestly a dream come true. And I think not to be weird, but it's sentimental. But when we grew up in Louisiana, we grew up in like a small house. We all shared rooms. And so it kind of brings us back to like our childhood. And then, of course, they lost me to...

fighting the good fight, trying to get married or whatever. And that didn't work out. So I'm like back to square one. It was a long three years without you. Right, right. And so, yeah, it was kind of like funny when I had to move back in with them. And there's pros and cons, of course. Yes. I think there's more pros. Yeah. And now you get single Brooks back, which is what,

How would you describe it? I mean, I think it's been the most entertaining thing of all of our lives. Yeah. Especially because you wouldn't think it, but Brooks is actually so awkward and nervous around boys and her flirting...

style is so unique and weird that we literally have so much fun with it and it's cute like just the way you reply to text the way you'll yeah there you go talk to guys that you like we're like what the hell we thought you were it's pretty much worked out nicely like with like you know yeah it's kind of like playboy but a girl but then she is just so damn awkward and it's really hilarious oh

But you have to remember that she got married so young to her very first boyfriend. So she really doesn't. She wasn't really ever in her young 20s dating in New York. Yeah. Which is such. I never dated at all. Actually, my ex-husband was my first date. Yeah. Of my life. I was 18. So I never been on a proper dinner date. And then we got married and I wasn't with anyone else until 27. Yeah. But it's cute. She'll be like, should I just reply this? And we're like, oh, my God, no. Like you're sending a paragraph. And he said, hi. I don't send paragraphs, Graceann.

Okay. What kind of like, do we send emojis or no emojis? I do a million emojis, a million explanation marks because that's just how I am. And they're like, one explanation mark is enough. And I'm like, is it that serious? Wait till you see what I'm sending next. Right. Just kidding. We do a lot of emoticons. Okay. Some people think are outdated, but I'm a big fan of the smiley face. That's a colon parenthesis or the heart. I don't even know what that means.

See, that's like, that's coming back. I love them. I think they're so endearing. And it's just like sending an actual smiley face. Although recently we were really making fun of one of my friends for sending, using it also like on a dating app. Like, and we're like, why are you, stop sending him smiley faces. You don't know him. Yeah. Oh, fuck. That's what I do. I mean, I do it so much. I do too. But you have a boyfriend, so it's different. Yeah. Yeah.

It's interesting having the damn Nader peanut gallery around 24-7. I can't get away with one thing. If I miss a period, so much as a period, they're all in my room going, you should take a test. You're one day late. I'm like, no, like get out of my bathroom. Like just because there's heated floors, they all congregate in my bathroom. They lay on it. They sit on it. They gossip on it. They know everything I do at all times. I feel like I'm in a conservatorship with them. Oh my God.

I think we feel that way about you. Okay, well. Well, there you go. There you go. What does, where, like, when your mom comes to visit, is she just sitting in a chair listening to you guys, like, go off and, can she even contribute to,

to the conversation with you guys. My mom loves to help us out and feel needed, I think, which is so sweet. So every time she's here, she's like, let me do the laundry or the dishes or fold your clothes. And we're like, you don't have to do that. We all hang out. But I realized that her tactic is to be doing dishes or folding laundry and listen in on

the conversation. She's a gossiper. She doesn't want to contribute, but she wants to know everything. For instance, I was just, I landed this morning back from a David Yarrow shoot. It was like Wolf of Wall Street themed in Miami. And my dad works in finance. And so they're like, can he be one of the bankers like in the background on the trading floor? He was so excited. He crushed his first modeling gig. I was so proud of him. My mom was there. Then we go to lunch after and they're like, so what's going on with the other girls? We feel that they're a little mentally unstable and unwell. I go, how do you feel that way? And they go, just by looking at him.

Look at them. And I was like, oh, okay. And then they were going and Sarah Jane's like, just tell us the tea. Like who's she hooking up with? We heard this story. We heard that story. And sometimes I'll mostly, I give them a lot. I do give them a lot. That's probably why they think that. Cause I recently spoke to mom and she was like, what's new? And I was like, well, nothing with me. Sarah Jane had a date last night and I just spill everything. That is, I think the most sibling, like when a parent checks in, you're like, I really don't want to tell you anything about my life, but let me tell you everything about my sibling. What this bitch is doing. Yeah, exactly. Well, did you hear what happened?

to her yeah like sipping my tea none of my business but yeah I know you called to ask about me but I got something way more interesting how do they feel about the reality TV journey are they pumped for it

They're so like, listen, they're like from South Louisiana. They met it at church. They like waited till marriage to have sex. They're so wholesome and sweet and like opposite of us. So it's kind of like a sick joke that my parents had the four of us. So they're like, y'all are so crazy, like being on TV and stuff. And they didn't know what to expect. And then, you know, we went down to Louisiana and we filmed a lot with them and like,

Honestly, I'm like, they're the stars of the show. No one's going to watch this for us. They're so funny unintentionally. And like you said, it's just chaos ensues. And then my parents are sitting there with the train wreck like, what the fuck did we do wrong? And I'm like, you did everything right. We're good girls. I mean, they're the sweetest. And we have joked about it before when talking about your dad.

They're going to go crazy for him on TV. I mean, he's the star of the show. Yeah. People love him. And he loves himself. He literally goes in Baton Rouge the other night. He goes, we were at the beer garden and this group of girls came up to us. They go, are you...

Brooks' dad? Bro-nator? He goes, I mean, we're basically getting papped. He goes, I'm not even kidding you. We're basically getting papped. I go, oh my God. One person came up to you. He loves it. He loves it. Oh, just wait. It's just the beginning, I think, for him. He has no idea. Oh my God. It's going to be so, so good.

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- I love watching and seeing where you guys are 'cause I feel like it's always on the move, on the go, on a plane, at a party, at an event. Like, do you ever rest, ever?

She rests a lot. Well, the other night. She gets all eight hours. Only sometimes. Plus. I've become a big proponent of sleep lately. Sleep is important. Yeah. Sleep is important, Grace Ann. Never met her. Never met her. Which is very new for me. I don't know. Does Brooke sleep? I feel like she sleeps standing up. No, she doesn't sleep. I do. And I always tell her, I'm like, you need to prioritize your sleep because you'll just be better at everything all the time. I'm great at everything. But Brooke never rests. But sometimes she goes, goes, goes until she crashes and burns. And that happened last week when we were all about to go for a night out. Yeah.

She had a little crash moment, so we had to cancel all of our plans. And I was like, this is where it comes in handy to have some stamina and sleep every other night. Well, Gracianne, sometimes I don't have a choice because I'm actually a hustler. No, I know that. I know that. But I'm just saying.

You saw in a cold plunge sleep, spa, this must be nice. Yeah. And I feel like you're constantly on a plane, Brooks. Yeah, I know. I am. What are your plane secrets? You must have some tips because I feel like you look amazing and you're coming on and off a plane all the time. I don't really have any tips. I have like

I've been doing a lot this week, like four times to and from Miami for work and back. And so there's no live flats or anything. So I have like trained myself to be able to just like fall asleep sitting up like this. And I have this mask called the drowsy mask. Have you heard of it? No. It like takes up your whole entire face. It's completely blackout. I do that. Um,

you know, a little like half a Xanax. Yep. And a big glass of wine. That's the cocktail. That's it. The secret. And then I'm dead to the world. Yeah. But yeah, that's basically it. I'll do a little sheet mask, an LED mask. I do all the crazy shit on planes because I look so dry and crusty when I get off of flights. Yeah. Never. You always look great. Oh, yeah. Okay. She wants something. That's what she's buying for. Yeah, she does. Buttering her up. What has...

What has post Dancing with the Stars life been like for you? Because it was kind of a massive moment. I mean, honestly, life got better after. I mean, Dancing with the Stars was such a great experience and

You know, there's many emotions that I went through throughout the season and postseason. And, you know, like you said, we're filming our own show, which is so fun and so exciting and something we dreamt about for a long time. So there's like highs and lows of it all. But, you know.

It's moving and shaking. Things are really busy and great, but I mean, I don't even... Are we leaving it all in the past? Like being on Dancing with the Stars? Yeah, and everything that came with it?

Um, yeah. So we're, we're definitely leaving it all in the past. I'll, I mean, definitely like, I'm not going to go on dancing the stars again. Yeah. Obviously maybe one of the girls, um, they want to go on. So we'll see what happens there. I probably won't be back in the ballroom like to watch them, but I'll watch on TV and support. Of course. It's a great show. Um, and then in terms of my, um, twinkle toes partner, um, um,

He's, yeah, you know. So a big debate, and Rhea and I talked about it a couple times, I will say, was like, is this real? So that's the crazy part, Fran. People ask me that every day. They're like, it was a joke, right? Yeah. Why are you sad that you and your fake boyfriend broke up? I'm like...

Actually, it wasn't. That's the crazy part. That's the joke of it all, really. It's really like, I'm like, I, listen, everyone has certain bits in life and whatever. I think what really happened, if I'm going to be totally honest, is like day one, I was like, ooh, he's hot. And even whenever I was like Dina Katz, who runs the AC Stars, called and was like, okay, who's your ideal partner? Yeah. And I said, I said this, you can quote me. I said, I want the hottest, douchiest guy. Yeah.

I said, I do. I'm newly divorced. I'm in Europe. I'm on a boat. Give me the douchiest house. And she goes, we got him. We got him. And that's his role. Douchiest house in the world, mind you. As a Dancing with the Stars super fan, which you know I've told you before, I was like, every season, that is kind of what he gets. That's the bit. And so day one when I met him, I was like, oh, this is perfect.

is perfect this isn't going to go anywhere serious like I know exactly what I'm going to do here and it's going to be like a bit day one day two I was like in love and like it wasn't a bit anymore and I was actually really really into him and so and I think it's hard because like my sister said I

I don't like, I'm not familiar with all these like dating terms, like love bombing. It's all new to me because I haven't dated. I've only been married. So when I was, when certain things would happen throughout the season, they would be like, that's a huge red flag. And I'm like, but is it? It's so nice. And they're like, it's called love bombing or this or that. So I think I was kind of, and also not to mention, I was like with him eight hours a day, seven days a week. And we were working and working out a lot.

Yeah. I mean, there's also the interesting dynamic of when as a sister, especially you watch your sisters go through relationships and when things happen that are a red flag or that are kind of weird or huge red flags that you're like, whoa, no, you're still working with him every single day. And you're still like you have to maintain a good relationship, especially with something like dancing together.

to you know give it your best shot and not screw up the relationship and get eliminated immediately yeah you know but that said I think day one when the sisters met Gleb we all were like oh god damn this is gonna be a headache and a whirlwind and this might go on for months and months and months and as for the whole is this fake or showmance or whatever I can tell you firsthand every time I visited Brooks's trailer the trailer was shaking every single time and I was like

I never wanted to go in there. I was always knocking. He was always at our house. It was just a lot. And so I think it was very real. Yeah, the trailer thing was probably why we didn't win. But like, it's like, you know, what's a girl to do? I was newly single. Wait, you want to know the funniest thing? No, no, it's actually very funny. As you guys are doing the show and people are like,

the dances like everyone's like has their strong opinion people hated me my sister made a tiktok that was like you know what you guys all just hate them because they're hot but they're good and i'm rooting for them and then you saw it and you reposted it on your on your instagram story wait i was like oh my god i was like it's

wait wait oh my god i was like literally gia's video wait yes i love her so funny because you know what it's so pathetic and sad but it was all negative slut whore this bitch yeah whatever it was and then when there was one there was always one needle in a haystack i'd be like repost thank you thank you thank you and that was gia being like you know what you're all just jealous because they're so hot i love her i remember seeing that and being like she nailed

Just kidding. Exactly. No, it was so good. It was so good. So now, I mean, okay, we're leaving it all in the past. We're moving on. Which is why I feel like watching you guys do a show now all together is so genius. Brie and I have been saying it for forever that as soon as the first time I hung out with like all of you guys together or even just...

I've gotten the sisters in like bits and pieces. You have. You've got the only moments. Exactly. I'm like, okay, you're all so amazing. So funny. So cute. I'm like, Mary Holland's a little precious angel. Yeah, precious angel nerd. I know, the only precious angel. She met my parents and my mom was like, how do we get her to fall in love with me?

No, totally. My brother. How do we get her? She's so great. We can cast a spell on her. I know. We have a whole witchery thing. Everyone wants to marry Mary Holland. Literally everyone wants to marry her. She's so wifeable. I want to marry her. Yeah. We are married to her. So when you guys like at night now, who's, you have your boyfriend. Yes. Are you the only one in a relationship right now? Mary Holland is in a relationship with a British guy. Breaking hearts left and right. But listen, never, nothing's...

I never say never. Yeah. No, no. Never say never. I mean, my parents don't like that I say this, but it's not good to say. I'm like, and my mom's like, well, once you get married, I'm like, I mean, what if you don't like him? And I'm like, you can divorce. My mom's like, no, you can't. It's a sin. I'm not going to do it again. But like now it's like now you already did it. You already broke the ice there. Yeah. I already kind of broke the ice. Right. Oh my God. Wait. Okay. British. So let's go back. I know.

Everyone loves a British accent. So now I need to know more about this guy. Where'd he come from? Where did he come from? The Cotswolds. The Cotswolds. They call it the Cotswolds. I don't even know what it is. The Cotswolds. The Cotswolds. Yeah, he's British. Interestingly enough, the latest is that he's invited my parents to Wimbledon with him and Mary Holland. I'm wondering if they're going to have a parents meeting moment.

Well, that's pretty serious. That is. Because that feels super serious. Wimbledon is so posh. I mean, Wimbledon with the gold is pretty posh. So posh. And, like, the Beverly Hillbillies are so excited to see everything in London. They've never been, you know, to London before, my parents. That's crazy. I didn't really know that. I'm always a little skeptical of all my sisters' boyfriends. I think...

I think he's so nice and kind and amazing and sweet. Sometimes I get a little confused with British guys because it's like, am I just enamored? Yep, 100%. You know, when you're being a douche, it sounds sweeter. Right. Is it like when you're making fun of me, is it actually nice or are you really making fun of me? Yeah. So, I mean...

I think time will tell. I hope that I get a warning before something crazy goes down if their parents are going to meet, but you're going to be making that up. I don't know if the parents are meeting, but it would be weird if he invited my parents to London and they didn't meet, I think.

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Only because she falls so hard so fast. And he's like, he's the one. She's like a serial dater. Oh, yeah. So honestly, nine months is maybe long for the parents to meet in her book. Yeah, it is. And he took forever to say I love you, which pissed her off. Kind of confused all of us. Yeah. He hasn't said I love you. I was like, oh, my God, dude.

And she's so sweet. Like, it was so awkward. She would be like, I would think guys would be saying it like three days in. I mean, if you don't tell me. Yeah. It's like, but that didn't, I didn't get the last laugh on that one. Yeah. Not a good example. Right. So maybe, maybe you should wait. Maybe. Don't love me. Don't tell me you love me. Maybe this is the right way. Let's go opposite next time. Be mean to me and I will be obsessed with you. Yeah. Exactly.

Exactly. We'll see what happens with those two. I'm a big fan. I mean, she seems super happy. She also dives really headfirst into relationships. That's the only hesitation I have. It's not as much him. It's her. Yeah. She's the problem. All right. Well, fingers crossed for her. We hope it all goes well. You know, best of luck. She's saying it like it's her worst enemy. Best of luck to you. Okay. Well, let's hope it works out. No, I want it to work out so bad. Okay. I do. Say it with a little, say it with your chest. I want it to work out. I'm,

No, I really want it to work out, I guess. The funny interesting thing about him as well is that he is a lord.

He has a Lord title. So he's friends with like, so the poshness keeps going. And yeah, Harry and Meghan and all that gang gang. But I'm like, when we go to a restaurant, do you have to say the reservations for Lord Jules? Yeah. He's like 40, I think 39, 40. He's 38. Okay. He's Harry's age. They were in the same grade in school. Oh my gosh. You ladies and your older men. Older Lords. Yeah. I had a Prince face too. Love the Royals. You know? Yeah. We do love a Royal. Why would you not? Why would you not?

what you want me to be royal okay why would you know why would you not i'm down down to be the queen i can't wait like you know what this is like a tough i can't wait to tell my brother this because he's gonna be like you gotta be fucking kidding me i'm gonna guess what not to hold out hope that's what she has a new boyfriend and he's a lord and he's friends with prince harry but it's okay you know i mean you never know yep let's see what happens here yeah so would she be a lady

I guess she would be a lady. Yeah. I'm not calling her that. Duchess. I don't know. Lady. No way I'm calling her that. Duchess is like higher up, I think. I think Duchess is higher. Yeah. She ain't a Duchess, let me tell you. She's a Viscountess. What the hell is that? Maybe. I don't know. I just know that he's a Viscountess. That's a guy. I don't know if that's the same. That's a man, right? Okay. Yeah. A Viscount's a man. Yeah. A lady. I'm trying to think of what they call them on Bridgerton and I can't. Oh,

Oh my God. Her being a little British. That's so her though. That's so her. It's so her. Yeah. I want her kids to have British. Now I'm thinking of other kids to have British accents. Okay. Now I'm even more pro Jules. Okay. Fine. We like it. I'm like, okay, if you move to the UK and have beautiful British children, then we like it. And we can all look at the Cotswolds. Yeah. Cotswolds. Cotswolds.

You should hear my parents say this. They go, we're going to the camels. I go, camels? They go, the camels out in the, I go, what the fuck is that? They go, the countryside. I go, oh, the Cotswolds. They go, yeah, I can't say it, but it's okay. Learn that before you meet Jules' parents. How about that?

I love it. It's just so fun to watch. Yes. I don't know her plan. It's kind of funny. Like, I feel like as we're filming, because I feel like, like you said, it's reality TV. Like I do. I used to be such a junkie, like a reality TV junkie. But I haven't seen a lot of like young girls in New York City based shows. A lot of L.A. So it's like. And they're all like real estate agents.

totally right so yeah we're not selling anything yeah right for ourselves yeah yeah yeah exactly so it's kind of like you know and we're from like you know

Baton Rouge, Louisiana. And so there's like swamp people meet sex in the city and like everything that comes with it. Like the Beverly Hillbillies of New York. It's pretty hilarious even just in real time as it's all happening. And to us, it's not anything out of the ordinary because it's like, you know, I've been in New York since I was 18 and my parents have visited me and slept in the apartment. And like,

Everything that comes with that is just so... It's like comedic relief. So I think with all the highs and lows of relationships and that, having us all living together is like... Because all we can do is make fun even when it's the darkest situation. We laugh. That's all we do. That's what we do. That's how we cope. No, that's what you have to do. And I think that's so...

fun now that you guys are all doing it together like when do sisters really ever get to say we lived together in new york doing that life like i know it's don't move kind of the dream i will never move out it really is serendipitous yeah and especially i think that it kind of looks a certain way to girls back home or girls in the midwest that have this dream of moving to a big city wearing better clothes and you know getting into fashion or doing whatever and

And then we're all doing that. But then at the same time, we're so kind of silly and goofy. And we kind of are clumsy. And little things happen in serious moments. You're trashy is what you're trying to say. Yeah. Really trashy. So it's just funny. Which I love. I am too, by the way. You have to keep that side of you. Or else then you're totally a sellout. Totally. No, we are always true to our roots and ourselves. It's crazy. This is going to sound like maybe a stupid question. But how did...

you end up being the only one with like not a double name so I have a double name Brooks Claire but when I moved to New York and I had like my first modeling casting I was so nervous and I like went up I think it was like Dior or something like really scary and of course they didn't book me they were like she has boobs fuck off and so I like walked up and they were like what's your name and I was like Brooks Claire Nader and they're like which name is it Brooks or Claire and I was like

Brooks! And so I just picked one and stayed in that lane. And then everyone was just like, too long. What's your name? And then, of course, by the time they got here and I had built a little network, they're like, of course, we'll accept the double names. So they didn't have to drop them. Right. I'm pretty adamant about mine. Yeah. You're like, it's Gracie Ann. It's Gracie Ann. But Sarah Jane and Mary Holland will go by Sarah and Mary. No, they don't. I've heard sometimes they allow it. No. I'm annoying and I'll stop people and be like, it's Gracie Ann. Yeah.

Grace Ann has a good flow to it I mean they all do really they all do But I can see Mary Holland Maybe sometimes they're like wait what's your middle name And she also works at a bank so people Were just like I'm not calling you that Right right right Good for her for keeping that job Yeah I know I mean this one Over here don't talk to her about her job What are you?

Don't worry about it. Yeah, it's very sketchy. Is there a job? No. Well, I recently left my job at a non-profit. After two weeks. Okay. Not after two weeks. Three. And so I'm in between right now. But, you know. That's what we're following along for. Yeah, exactly. It's, you know, maybe Brooks is going on some dates. Mary Holland's headed to...

With all that, we're headed to the bank. Yeah, yeah. Grace Ann's job hunting. Grace Ann's job hunting. Yeah, exactly. That is true. What's Sarah Jane up to? Oh, what is she not up to? I don't even know what she's doing. She's all over the map, that girl. Being the youngest, I think you... Do you think youngest gets...

the most excuses like absolutely she definitely can do whatever she wants a lot of excuses yeah yeah and she also just kind of like questions her thinks she's coming for my throne in a way like she's like i'm the new bitch i'm the hotter younger version and i'm like now watch it that's not true at all you're also five years younger than me but she likes to say it in like social settings like in really dope intimate groups and she's like don't be mad i'm the hotter younger and i'm like

you're grounded for that one. That's not, that's no. I don't like it. So we had to ground her recently a few times. I mean, you guys are all in your 20s, so it's a crazy statement. Yeah, yeah. Like, okay, yeah, this isn't right. None of it's right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Can't quite make that jump yet, I feel like. But have you guys been loving the buzz around

and hearing about it and people being excited about it. You have some big names that are involved with you guys. Yeah, we're really lucky and fortunate. Like, we grew up, obviously, watching Jimmy come alive and, you know, like, our parents are so obsessed and he's so hilarious and provides such, like, you know, I feel like in dark times in the world, he's the guy that, like, makes everybody laugh and, like, brings people together. So,

to have him, you know, as an executive producer is amazing. And then our team is great. Our producers have worked on amazing shows. One was on Kardashians for many years. So they've done this before and they know exactly what they're doing. And also it's kind of crazy because I mean, a lot of people are like, um,

you know oh my gosh this is perfect timing this whole Gleb thing goes up and then she gets a reality show I'm like no this has been in the works for like multiple years you don't just get a reality show and one of our producers Rachel was with us like day one when we were doing a sizzle reel and so she's seen us truly grow over the last two three years and knows our story so it helps so much to like

like have people that we're friends with that you know us as individuals I remember like just hearing rumblings of a conversation from you guys like last maybe some last summer two summers ago so it's like it's yeah well before dancing with the stars no no I was gonna say well before dancing with the stars so it's so exciting that that it's all happening we love that you're on it I

I know. This is like my favorite dress. I'm like, we all gotta hang out. You are our red-headed sister. Our gorgeous, like, you make me want to dye my hair that color. It's a good color. You could totally wear this color. Seriously, it's stunning on you. Thank you. Guys, thanks. I just feel right at home and look at you. You've upgraded. You have the pen. All I need is to just go topless on your roof and then I'm done. Let's go!

It's a requirement. We have like a no shirt, no shoes policy in our... I'm down. I actually... I'm also pro nudity in the privacy of my own home. Absolutely. We are all nudists. Yeah. Full on. It's great. Full blown. It is great. It is. It's true. So, yeah. I'll...

I'll have to come over to the Soho spot. Come on over. It's a really good old time over there. It seems like a fun time. It's a party. All right, we're going to jump into some topics covering some pop culture stories that happened this weekend. We have The Real Housewives of New York, which is a very longstanding show. They rebooted it, and now it was rumored to be canceled, but then Bravo was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's not canceled, but they didn't really give any more answers besides that.

At the end of last week, it was a classic Friday, like 4 p.m. news dump. Ooh, what happened? Taylor Swift is being subpoenaed in the lively Baldoni situation. And Taylor and Travis were in Philly for Mother's Day with the Kelsey family. Billy Ray Cyrus and his family seem to have made amends. Wow. There's been a lot of family drama with the Cyruses. And Bill Belichick went to the Miss Maine pageant to support his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson. They've been in the news lately.

A while. Did I hear something about her not being allowed to the stadium anymore? Is that big news? You did hear that. That was a rumor that was going around that UNC was like, she can't be anywhere near the facility. They did make a statement that said like, she's welcome on campus and blah, blah, blah. As a student. I really think they want her, you know, in the locker room. Yeah. So we can jump into that, but we'll kick it off first with the Real Housewives of New York.

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- Have you guys ever watched Roni? - I am an OG Real Housewives of New York, Ramona, Sonya, Luann. Those girls, I think, are like prime reality TV. Of all the housewives, I thought they were the best. Truthfully. - They were so good. And then you know what? It's just like sometimes you do watch, but it's in the prime, it's so good. Towards the end, it was like, this is a little bit tough to watch.

And like, how many times can you watch them just like... Sonia, pee yourself. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, oh no. Oh no! And then they rebooted the show. Whole new cast. And...

It seemed like a good idea. I personally really liked the first season. I watched it. The second season got a little dark. It did, right? There were some crazy fights that got really dark. Yeah, it got dark. And I think maybe they didn't quite know how to move on from that because last week Bravo announced like, hey, all these shows are in production and Roni was not on the list. So they're not canceling.

Oh, okay. So that's canceled. Yeah, but they said it's not canceled. Would you think they're recasting on right now? Do you think they're recasting it? Yeah. They've got to be making some changes, having a few additions or something to change the mix. I think that maybe they'll keep a few of them, but I think they're going to have to give it a little bit of a lift because

They definitely tried to go younger, which makes a lot of sense. It's kind of funny because aren't. Yeah. I mean, not that I have any position to say anything, but aren't none of them actually married for the most part? Some of them. Lots of singles, which I love. Yeah, there was a couple. I'm just saying Jessa's married. Aaron's married.

One, two, couple, three, four, maybe half married, half not. Okay. I love the single, the single bitches. I love that too. I think Brooke should be a housewife. Babe, we have our own show. Stop. I'm not a housewife. You act like a housewife, by the way. She's sauna, cold plunge, stays with the boyfriend. I'm the fun, cool, hot girl. There you go.

There you go. Well, that's like, it's like, hey, you know, sometimes you watch these shows and you're like, yeah, no, they need to change it up. I think this was one that they needed to. Well, that's perfect timing for our show. Exactly. New York? Well, that's why I'm like, there's a void to fill of, like, young people out and about in New York. Yeah. Because they do have it for so many other shows. And then even with Summer House, it's just...

them going out to the Hamptons you don't really get to see as much in the city New York life right yeah and even for them it's like okay now what's next Kyle Cook is 42 years old it's like wait how long has that show been on

Nine seasons? I think it's season nine right now. Yeah. Wow. And it's been the same cast, right? No, it's... It's changed. Four or five have been there for a while. Season three is when like Hannah and Paige DeSorbo joined. Okay. And

And Paige is still on it. And then they've had new people come in and out the last, like, few years. But they've kept some of the older. So it's a little bit of a funky dynamic now because they're trying to keep these older couples that are, you know, Amanda's my age. But, like, her husband is...

I think 10 years older than her and Carl's I think just turned 40 so like they have these old interesting older I say like they're they're not old they're just like older yeah and then they try and cast like 24 25 26 year olds interesting dynamic and that's like that's tough in a summer house yeah that's rough right yeah definitely I mean I was obsessed still am love that show yeah so much in college me and my girlfriends watched it every time it aired whatever all

All of my college friends are still so into it and everyone wants to see Lindsay go on Real Housewives. Yes. Which I think would be so interesting. Yeah. It's so good. She's Lindsay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't watch any of those shows. Yeah. And I think she will. I think they'll do something either...

Surrounding her or like putting her into a scenario where there's other more like contemporary age appropriate. Like, you know, she just had a baby. So it's like, so she's living in the house with all these people with a baby and a husband and everything. Well, she hasn't brought the baby yet. She just had the baby, but they are going to film a new season this summer. So she was like, Oh,

Oh, I don't know how much I'll be involved slash like staying in the house because, you know, she does have a. That's crazy. There's also like threesomes going on in the next room and you can't have a baby. Exactly. It's a lot going on. They cast one new guy this season that has like brought a girl or multiple girls home every weekend. This guy Emeril. He has brought brought multiple and the girls are like not happy about it.

The girls that were featured? They signed the waiver though, no? No, no, they're not seen at all. The other girls in the house are like, dude, every week. Right, right. Yeah, that's the part of the Hamptons I'm not into. Yeah, revolving door people. Were you ever a part of that rotation? No, I was never involved in that rotation. No, then you can't answer your question. There you go. Okay, so it was a big weekend for...

Taylor Swift, you guys know a classic Friday news dump is like when you're trying to really get it. Hopefully it's forgotten as quickly as possible. So the news came out that she's being subpoenaed in the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni shitstorm. That is their legal battle. But.

Taylor Swift must have, and she does, we know it, has like the best publicist. Yeah, she does. And right away, a statement came out that said, Taylor Swift never set foot on the set of this movie. She was not involved in any casting or creative decisions. She did not score the film. She never saw an edit or made any notes on the film. She did not even see It Ends With Us until weeks after its public release and was traveling around the globe during 2023 and 2024. The Taylor Swift

I love that publicist. So much. So much. And it's so true. I would be so annoyed

I'm sorry, with my friend. I'd be like, why did you involve me in this? I know, that's been the drama. It's like, are Taylor and Blake still friends? There's no chance. I think that would end it for me. Yeah, I would be like, why did you do... That's so sheisty. I'd be like, you've absolutely lost your marbles. And she did refer to...

Taylor Swift is one of her dragons. I don't know if you guys saw that. There was a text, right? There was a text. You don't want to go up against me and Ryan. Yeah, there's that she has, she's referred to herself as Khaleesi. No, no, no, no. And she has her dragons and Taylor Swift is one of her dragons. Okay, that's so... I think that alone, I'd be like, what the fuck? That alone, don't refer to yourself as Khaleesi. That's so bad. Literally, that is so bad. Yeah, so it's been tough. And Taylor Swift is the god of...

parent of three of Blake and Ryan's kids so I'm like I don't know you kind of have to like try and work it out I think

I mean, I mean, I think it's so embarrassing to be like, this is one of my dragons. And then that came out and she's like, no, I'm not. I don't have nothing to do with it. And now they're like, hey, you may have you may have to go to court. I would be so pissed if I had to appear in court. I would honestly it's kind of like what's a good like when Kate Moss was in like the Johnny Depp trial and she's like, yeah, why am I here? And then what's another example? Who is the other? Oh, the ski thing with that was she's like, I lost half a day of skiing.

Like what is Taylor Swift going to lose while she's sitting in this trial? Right. She's like, there's literally no reason for me to be here. I did nothing. I have no involvement. I don't know. That's a great statement by that publicist. Right? Like it's just like, wow. Gave me goosebumps. Yeah. That's how you do it. And she also knows that that's how you do it and that you do it on Friday at 3 p.m. Love that. That is so, so good. When,

Everyone's already moving on. And then they're Taylor and Travis haven't been seen too much. They've sort of been laying low. People have said, but they were seen in a restaurant in Philadelphia for a little Mother's Day party.

brunch they were with Donna Kelsey and Jason and Kylie it seemed and it's just so nice sweet and awesome I love to see that I know right I love that too and then meanwhile she's being subpoenaed it's like yeah but she's got time to see her have you guys seen his hair recently I would love to see it no I don't keep up with those two but I want to get involved I want to show you that picture so this was them at lunch let me see

And he's got this very long hair. Do we like it? I kind of, I, people are like skeptical on it. I kind of love it. I'm into that. Yeah. I like the long hair and I like the facial hair. Same. Yeah. I think it's good. I know it's a good, I think it's pretty impressive that he can like go from having a buzz cut to have hair like this. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty,

quickly. You're like, damn, his hair grows faster. He's got great hair. Yeah. Off season hairdo. I know. I know. So fashion moment. What's like if you guys start dating somebody. So obviously she's now involved with the Kelsey's and they're out doing family events and stuff. When's like the earliest you're like, OK, we can do family events. I mean, I started doing family events three months in. Yeah.

Yeah. Her boyfriend's family has like a really close, fun dynamic and they're always together. Right. Yeah. It's like ours. It's so important. Yeah. You know, it's much easier to jump into that dynamic if you come from a really tight family. Yes. Because you're like, of course, we're going to spend every day with your family. What else would we do? You know. I think that's why Taylor and Travis also work so well is because I think they do kind of have similar family dynamics of like super close. Yeah.

One sibling. Yeah. Like, close with their parents. Both their parents are divorced. But, like, I think they're similar. Yeah. But they're always together, right? Like, yeah. That's really sweet. Like, they get along really well. I think they're perfect. Yeah. I feel like they're definitely getting married. I hope so. They will, for sure. Do you think she'll have a giant...

ring or something like something I bet you classy and vintage yeah like the queen of England's like old ring right right right yeah something crazy I see that for her something really cool like that I also do something kind of rogue and get a sapphire right other crazy jewel you know I feel like that's kind of in these days yeah I could see that I could like see her doing like a like a Kate Middleton like emerald are you a huge Swifty or no she's a sapphire I think

I am, I am. You are, okay. My sister is nuts. Really? I love her. Big, big, big fan. I definitely would say I'm a Swifty, but then there's like...

Yeah, there's like a great craze. Yeah. Yeah. I was not a Swifty and then I went to the concert in October and now I'm a Swifty. Yep. She's such a good performer. It's hard to deny. It's hard to deny after watching that show. And when you hear her music, you can't just get a little bit fired up or feel something. I love her music. I do. I don't choose it if I'm on aux, but if I'm having a day, I'll do it. It comes on? Yeah, if it comes on. If it comes on, you're happy about it, which is all we can take. Exactly. Exactly.

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Okay, I don't know if you guys have seen any of this. There's been a lot of Cyrus family drama. I did see all of that. Yeah, in the last, like, maybe year or so, a quick summary I would say is, like, it almost seemed like some... Billy Ray had married, I think, a younger girl. Yeah, and that just, like, became a disaster. I think when they split, it was really bad, but I think he was kind of estranged from the kids during that, and...

Some of the kids were friends with Billy Ray. Some went tish. And then it was very divisive. It looked like they were picking sides. And then one of the sons, not that long ago, a few months ago, put out a public thing being like, Dad, you're...

You're an alcoholic. Yeah, like they were like, you're in bad shape. Yeah, they were like, it's so bad that I've reverted, like I have gone public because we can't like behind closed doors help you. Don't ever do that. Yeah, right? Like it's the racial level that it was so bad that they had to do that. And then last week, I guess Tish said,

unfollowed Miley somehow. People will just take any little thing, I guess. I mean, unfollowing your daughter, wasn't it an accident? Apparently an accident. Miley did, Miley never comments on stuff. Her social media is like, she uses for promo for her music. She looks so good. I'm fucking obsessed with her lately.

I can't get over it. Rux, wait until you see. I got to watch a preview of the visual album that she has coming out. She has a whole new album coming out at the end of the month, but she did a full visual album for it. The fashion. Her outfits are insane. The dancing. The Aliyah. The body. Oh, the Aliyah. Believe me, it's all in there. It is unbelievable. I was gasping for air in the theater watching it. Not that she didn't.

She just keeps getting better. Why did she have this new rebrand? I don't know. It's so cool. It seemed like she finally... She did a little Q&A and I had talked about it last week too. But she seems like she's in such a great spot. She's had this boyfriend now for a while now that I think has been great for her. And they have been working on music together. But she really doesn't comment on a lot of this stuff. And then she said...

I rarely comment on rumors but my mom and I are too tight for anything to ever come between us she's my best friend like a lot of moms she doesn't know how to work her phone and somehow unfollowed me simple coincidental and uninteresting my dad and I have had our challenges over the years now in my 30s family is my priority above all else I'm at peace knowing bridges have been built and time has done a lot of healing grateful for the good health and love that flows through my family that's a great thing that's great and Billy Ray is dating Elizabeth Hurley which is

insane to me i'm sorry someone made a comment that i thought was so funny it's like kind of mean someone goes does elizabeth hurley know that she's elizabeth hurley like like i don't need to remind her i think like her last few boyfriends i think she's had to be reminded of that really yeah okay because i'm like there's like a previous one that everyone was like wait how is this person yeah yeah i mean listen i mean didn't pete davidson date elizabeth hurley for a second

Probably. I mean, wow. Oh, no. It wasn't Elizabeth Hurley. It was... Kate Beckinsale? Kate Beckinsale. Yeah. It was Kate Beckinsale. Similar vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Kate Beckinsale. Wow. I know. And then for Mother's Day, Billy Ray posted on his Instagram...

Mothers in his life He talked about his own mom And then he wrote I'm so proud of Miley And her guts and her courage Her wisdom and strength To bring it When our family needed it most We are so close To a full healing We have all been through a lot On this Mother's Day I would like to testify A couple of facts

still very much believe in the power of prayer and respectfully ask if you do also and have an extra prayer for the Cyrus family I humbly would accept so and then he wrote a little thing about Tish she said Tish Cyrus was and is the very definition of a strong mother trust me I'm the first to admit being married to me was not easy I'm very good at making mistakes a very imperfect man but thank goodness somewhere along the line my mama also taught me life is a series of adjustments so she said full circle that's nice I love to see it they're all like kumbayaing I love that a family that I feel like

Us and a lot of people have watched from childhood. And they've always had such a family vibe, so I love to see it. Especially in Hollywood where it's so hard to stay close. And it really did seem that it's tough when it feels like some kids are team mom, some kids are team dad. That must suck so badly. I feel like all the guys I date are like dads and they have those...

Not baby mom. Ex-wife drama. I do only mean glub. Yeah. No. There's been people I've dated that have kids. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's hard. It's really hard. And I mean, I said maybe Elizabeth Hurley has been a great influence on him. I wouldn't have. I mean, that was a great statement. Yeah. Maybe so. It's like maybe now he's got a full blown dating Elizabeth Hurley, which is wild. The last one, last topic is Bill Belichick. He...

attended the Miss Maine pageant because Jordan was participating in the event. How old is she? She is 24. Really? She gives the attitude of such an, like not a 24 year old.

The way she takes control of those interviews. I think that's in the stuff. That's the bit. She must be an old soul. Right? I thought she was like 30. Not based off looks. Based off how she acts. No, no. 24. She's only 24. And she's making those business moves. I don't know if you saw, but right after she was buying houses in Massachusetts. Multiple. She's rented them out. She's a landlord. Holy shit. That's crazy. I mean, that's crazy.

Wow. I mean, I love a hustler. Listen, I know. So go off. She did fall short of becoming Miss Maine. She placed third on Sunday. She came in second in the contest last year and came in third this year. Coming first in life, I guess. I know. A real estate agent or landlord. I know. Right. At what point, though, like, I don't know, the pageant, the pageant life, I don't really fully understand. Yeah.

Brooks does I was gonna say Dan I hate you today She competed in Miss Teen Louisiana 20 No I didn't That wasn't me That was my alter ego One of you found to have been I did one pageant when I was 15 And you're so not I don't like you anymore You are The photos have to be somewhere The photos exist Yeah Fuck you There's many photos Did you win? No Top 16 Okay

She got in the top 16. That's nice to remember that, Graceanne. She was. And I remember the girl that beat her. And I was like, I should have won. She's way prettier, way nicer. Well, you know what, Graceanne? I still am heated about it. I just think you should have won. She does still hate the girl who won. And I'm like, oh my god. She has four kids and lives in Louisiana. Let her live.

Like everyone It all works out I can't I'm hung up on it I'm just like She shouldn't have beat you But like isn't that Something that it's You know you do When you're 15, 16 Especially in the south 24 years old I don't know I don't want to insult Like the pageant community I'm not familiar with Yeah How that goes Clearly I'm not either Because I didn't win So I don't really know much about it Yeah so It does seem kind of wild to me I know I feel like she's such An interesting gal I get why She's so interesting I get why people Are talking about her I mean like

Isn't her type older, older, older guys though? I saw something about this is her ex and he was also. I mean, clearly. Apparently. Very old. But I think it wasn't like as old as Bill. Right. Yeah. Bill's 73. I mean, that's my grandpa's age. When you get into the 65 and older category, it's just a whole new level. What's the number we're cutting off at? I think it's.

You have a boyfriend that's like 28, so you have no room to talk. So shut up. But I think 65 plus is a new category where it's like, oh my gosh. That's crazy. I just feel like there's no reason because Brad Pitt's in his 60s. There's no, you can't really say or put a limit. Is he in his 60s? Yes, he's in his 60s. Crazy.

Chris Yannis is 60. Brad Pitt is 60 maybe. 60 or 61 maybe. He is 61. Yeah, 61. I mean, he looks amazing. So that's what I'm saying. Gigi Hadid and Bradley Cooper are 20 years apart. I love an age gap. I only do age gaps. I don't think there's any limit. But like,

Any limit? Well, okay. I think there's a limit. I think 30, 40 years is crazy. My dad's rule is I don't want to call your next husband, sir. I don't want him to be... My dad's 50. Good rule. So he goes, I don't want your next guy to be older than me. I came really close. Actually, I had his age, exact age. So our new joke to my dad is we're like,

can we actually, we don't like your friends. Can we have your mentors? Because they're actually 60 and they're more our type. And he's like, this is such a disgusting joke. Your father. He goes, please don't let your next husband be older than me. I don't think they'll be older than him. I like 40s, 50s. I mean, I don't mind an age gap, but I do think you don't want your husband to be in a wheelchair at your kid's soccer game. Exactly. That's how I feel about it too. Or you do. No, you definitely don't. You definitely don't. I think about it too. It's like, okay, then your kid also...

Not to be harsh, but your kid's not going to have a parent for that long. Yeah. It is true. If you do want to have kids. Yeah. Right. It's obviously different for everybody. Some people don't want to have kids. That's the case. Fine.

And you're fine with dating somebody 40 years older than you are. Okay. Is that the gap between them? 40 years? I mean, yeah. Oh my God. It's 50. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. It's also just like they've lived in such a different time. He's 24. He's 73. It's also like, think about it like this. My dad's 50. It'd be like his next girlfriend being born right now. Yeah. That's disgusting. Like being a baby. I mean, that's insane. That's really gross to me. I'm sorry. It is. It is. But also, I don't hate on age gaps. When you think about your parent, like when you're like, oh God.

If he was my dad. Yeah. Like I think about his kids being like, they must just be like, what the fuck? How old are his kids? 50s?

40s? Yeah. Yeah. That's so interesting. It's a grandpa. I mean, that's wild. Yeah. Ooh la la. I know. To be dating someone that was partying in the 70s is like kind of crazy. Right? You know? Right? And like really just taking over his life in every aspect. Like runs the business. I think they just made up Belichick Enterprises is now like a thing that she runs. Are his kids like, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop? I don't...

Nothing has come out about it, but I can imagine that they wouldn't. Right, right. You know, like... Yeah. Especially because they seem to be close enough, you know, this...

Bill was taking the rumor was he was taking this job at UNC because it was going to like open the door for his son to become the next coach at UNC it was like a step it was like oh we'll bring Bill here and then like his son can become the next coach so they are close enough right right and that feels like I'm you know I'm calling my dad being like

what's going on. You're not coming to Christmas. Like, what's going on? Yeah, definitely. You're out. There's gotta be checks with their mother. That's so true about what your dad said too. It's like, if you're bringing home somebody and he's like, oh, nice to meet you, Mr. Belichick. No, literally. My dad was like, my only rule. Like, please. Yeah, I can't be saying Mr. Like, we gotta be on a first name basis. And he's like, the only thing is, is like prior to Gleb, like,

whoever I was saying my dad like they all get the same movie references like and they have the same humor because like I don't get it but they're shooting the shit and I'm like yeah okay like whatever so right it gives him a buddy like an older guy I do yeah not like I know no no I mean I don't like a 20 I'm a 28 I don't like a 28 year old guy yeah like I just can't even take him seriously you like an older guy I think I'm the only one that doesn't that isn't

doesn't prefer an older guy yeah you just yeah you're a whole different beast yeah with your type well there you go and you know what you got your person and yeah exactly yeah it's like she's good yeah look yeah i feel you okay but i think she's yeah i think a lot of girls our age do like older guys these days my husband's one year older than me so it's not like we're the same age yeah it's so fair but i just like once it gets to that point i'm

- Yeah, that's way too much for me. I couldn't do that one. I also like, at the end of the day, I know so many girls and models or friends of mine or acquaintances that like, this is gonna sound so harsh and mean, but they can date like a really old, really unattractive rich guy 'cause that's just their MO. I have to be attracted to the guy I'm with, hence why I dated Glove. I have to have someone that I'm attracted to. There's no, I tried to be like, come on, you can do it, but nope, I just can't. I have to actually like you. - There you go, I think that's so fair.

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Alright, we're going to wrap up, but I want to ask you guys if there are any, anything you've seen recently that you love, TV show, movies, anything that you've been watching that stuck out? I mean, I feel like, do you guys even watch TV? I know that sounds ridiculous. I weirdly don't even have time in M280D to watch TV, but what I did start- Do you watch movies on a plane? No. No, nothing. I raw dog all flights. You raw, oh my God. Don't even listen to music.

Nothing. I really don't watch Together. How scary is that? I literally think the whole flight and I'm like, hmm. And I'm like in my notes and I'm like so messed up. It's such a serial killer move. I literally sit there like this. I'm on the plane and I'm thinking. I just think. I'm like, I have a lot to discuss with you.

So we have conversations. Graceanne, you don't do that. She doesn't. I raw dog sometimes. But recently, this might be old news, Secret Life of Mormon Wives was just so good. And I'm just obsessed with them. Did you watch it? Yes. And it's coming back. And we met them at the Hulu Unscripted House event. And they're so fun, so great. I want to hang out with them more than anything. That's kind of my last, like, whoa. They are. That was amazing. And they're so interesting, too, because it's like, oh, in between the seasons, they just all got pregnant. Oh, I know. That was so funny. My dad is like,

the hulu house was like um i love the mormon wives my dad got every goodie bag the kardashian goodie bag this station that station he was loving it and he goes i love the mormon wives and i go oh you talk to him he goes yeah they don't look very mormon though i go what do you mean he goes they're all pregnant i go well they're married they can have sex actually that is the mormon yeah a lot of children yeah yeah they are knocking them out for big time yeah so and i love being like oh my god we're literally the same age and you're on kid number four

It's just crazy. Get started, babe. Well, you know what? You guys don't even need to be watching too much because everyone's going to be watching you guys soon. Well, listen. That's sweet. We live in a reality show, so I'm like, I don't know if I can continue to watch anything else because then I'll take on those problems mentally and my thinking plane time will just be so...

So much harder than it already is. There's already a lot going on in there. Amazing. We can't wait for you to just be a part of it. I know, guys. I'm so excited. And by the way, great name. So excited. Really? You like it? I love it. Okay, good. I love it. I think Love Thy Nader is great. Amazing. Okay, good. I know. I was excited to see what you guys were going to do with it name-wise. Yeah. But I think that's really fun. There was a few different options. Yeah. I like the Naderhood.

Instead of neighborhoods. I like next-door Nader's. Next-door Nader's is good. Love Thy Nader. I don't know. Love Thy Nader flows really well. It rolls off the line. Yeah, it does. It does. And our little church background, like our little upbringing, it's like very holy. Yeah, exactly. Contrary to popular belief, we're Christian ladies. Yeah.

We are. Just good Southern ladies. Good Southern Christian girls. Good Southern ladies. Yeah, exactly. Guys, thank you so much. We love you, Fran. Thank you, Fran. I love you. Thanks for coming on and being my co-host before Rhea comes back. Next episode, Rhea is back. I can't wait to hear about the honeymoon. I know. I've been stalking you online. The wedding was gorgeous. Insane. It looked so, so gorgeous. She looked ridiculous.

And her dress, her makeup, her hair. Broke my feet. I mean, so good. And you did too. Thank you. I mean, the chicks are married. The most effortless guy ever. It's crazy. I know, I know. So Fran, she always just pops up and is like, and looks perfect. I know. You little bitch. Thanks. Oh my God, that's so nice. We have makeup cases. We have extensions. Fran's just a natural beaut. Please, please, please. We love you.

you love you guys so much thank you so much for coming on and guys come on we're so excited for you know to watch the rest of the journey and yeah catch you guys on uh on hulu very soon yep amazing