Clayton Echard Says Gabby Windey’s Bullying Him + ‘The White Lotus’ S3 Finale Reaction
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What's up everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Happy Monday everybody. Thank you to everybody who came to our Rum Haven events this past weekend in Florida. Well, Thursday and Friday, Tampa, Fort Lauderdale. We had an absolute blast with you guys. What a lovely little weekend it turned into, honestly. It was. It was quite nice. It was quite nice. Beautiful weather. Gorgeous. Just...

Really. Soaking it in. Yeah. Especially this time of year in New York. It's just disgusting. Coming home, I was just like, ugh. You know? Like, it's just like... Landing in the rain, not great. When it was 80 degrees and sunny all weekend. I feel like Joe and I always have the same conversation when we're down there and we leave. And we're like, gosh...

Florida. Pretty nice place to live. Yeah. I mean, it's gorgeous. The weather is unbelievable. But sometimes it's like... I like a mixture. I like the seasons. The seasons are fantastic. It's nice to mix it in. You say it and then the reality of it would be not as great as what you would want. But...

I feel like once we get past this next week of like rainy weather, it'll be perfect. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. But we had such a great time at the events with Rum Haven meeting so many of our listeners in person. I love when we meet listeners that are like, I'm a silent listener, but I'm here. I'm like, well, you show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Not so silent. I love it. I love to see it. So thank you to everybody who came. We,

went from Fort Lauderdale to we went to dinner with my parents my aunt Debbie which was a delicious dinner and how was the rest of your weekend because I didn't see you after that was so nice a food was amazing and it was I got some leftovers tasted great coming back to it was so good did we drove from Tampa to Fort Lauderdale so really got to you know go the full road trip which you know if any take a wild guess and who needed to stop to use the bathroom first

It was me. We were just joking. We were like, we're powering through, guys. We're going to make it. We're powering through. We, you know, one stop. We're doing one stop. And that's it. But like, let's see how far we can get. 30 minutes. We left at 820. And shout out security guard Jose who drove us. But we left at 820 a.m. And we stopped at.

839 I think the clock was I think it was longer it was longer I'll give it to him it was like 855 when I first brought it up I said you know what I think I can go like 30 more minutes so like we didn't pull over in that exact moment yeah because I was like damn that was quick but I chugged a coffee right before the way he did say the way the announcement of I need to pee was literally 20 minutes but he did hold it in for maybe another 20 I said I already need to go but like I'm like it's not that bad it's not the end

the world yeah and we didn't stop at all after that that was our one stop yeah and we got our nice like you know gas station snacks yeah we did i honestly i enjoyed the drive i felt like it flew by it did i tried beef jerky for the first time i think that was the first time i had beef jerky two full albums continuum and fine line of course well of course what other albums would we play yeah i really don't mind beef jerky but the smell of it

I don't love. All I think of when I hear beef jerky is Hannah Montana. Yeah, yeah. Beef jerky. Yeah. Say what? Say what? Yeah, that's what I heard of. But I feel like I've never actually had it until the other day. It tasted how I imagined it would. Yeah. It tastes like it smells. It tastes how I imagined dog food would taste. Yeah. Not bad, but not something I am seeking out extra of. Right.

Right, like sometimes when you look at a dog treat, it looks like beef jerky. And it also smells like beef jerky. Yeah, like pepperoni. Yeah, exactly. No, it's like one of those things where I'm like, you know? Yeah. I'm not like, oh my God, I need more of that beef jerky. Yeah. And he ate it in record time. He did. It was actually really impressive, really. We're going to talk about the April Fool's joke because we didn't talk about it on Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was honestly like so shocking. Yeah. Really because-

really right before we got in or right before you walked into the studio me and Noah were sitting in here and I was like you're never gonna get me for April Fool's like I'm a guard and then we sat down to do trivia and it was in the like you played it off I don't even when I was saying you're never gonna get me there was no even a little glimpse of like he's planning anything yeah no I was like it would be too yeah you're right it would be too obvious yeah yeah I can't do anything

Oh my God. It was disorienting. No, it certainly was. They were so good. Yeah, and also I just feel like trivia, like he wouldn't have, it never crossed my mind for him to bring the trivia forward.

into it. And I felt bad because Noah was so adamant that he thought we were going to get it after like five questions and then we would be able to play a normal game. And we didn't. And then we didn't have time to play a normal game with them. So they kind of got bamboo

by Noah, not gonna lie. But they are on the schedule for September, so big rematch coming. Oh my god, there's a big rematch coming. We have to win. Yeah. I just see Noah being like, don't worry. They'll catch on after a few questions, then we'll play a normal game. Didn't happen. We did not catch on. But they're cemented in trivia history now. They are. Forever. And they were, I literally texted, I was like, they were some modern day Meryl Streep. Seriously. Seriously, they was a phenomenal actor. They exceeded all my expectations. Also, they

That's why they sold it. And I saw myself getting more and more agitated, but in no world was I going to like...

I think that's why it was a good prank because I was ever going to call out fans and be like, you guys are fucking cheating. That would have been, you know? I did that once. And it's just like, we were trying to be nice and it's just not. I mean, they had some backstories that I was like. They had a lot of backstories. Yeah, they had elaborate backstories. In my head I was like, damn, a lot of backstories. Elaborate backstories. That's why I was like, yeah. I was joking. I'm like, you guys,

Hack Noah's computer? Like, what's going on? I saw a lot of people, listeners, said that because we didn't tell them that they also fell for it. Yeah, let me tell you, that was A+. That was an April Fool's joke on us and the listeners. That was some A-plus right there. How was the rest of your weekends? Because we left you guys in Fort Lauderdale for the rest of the night. Yeah, we asked you guys to send us updates on how Fort Lauderdale was and you sent us nothing. Yeah.

I thought it was just a general include us in our text. No, we got a promise. We'll promise. We'll send it in the chat. Did we not? When we left with your parents, we were like, let us know what you guys are up to. Don't write in the other chat. Tell us what you guys know. I think it was just more of a general just include us in, because sometimes we'll have our behind the scenes chat. Yeah, but we weren't included. No, but you were in person, so the chat wasn't like, the chat was in

Well, did you guys have fun? Where did you go? That's why we wanted to be updated. No, it was nice. We went to a nice restaurant right by the hotel. That's amazing. It was in the W Hotel. And that was it? No bars or anything? We went back, had a nice nightcap at the hotel. You didn't want to go to Senor Frogs? Someone did say to go there. You didn't want to go see Ludacris? We were all like, I don't know, maybe it was the sunburn. We were just like, ugh.

I mean, we had a couple days of traveling, tired. But it was nice to, you know, hang out. Noah actually hit me with something so funny in the car. I actually cried laughing because we went to dinner.

in Tampa after our meet and greet with Rumhaven and after dinner everyone was in like a silly goofy mood we were having a great time and Noah was like nobody's gonna come nobody's gonna get a nightcap with me like nobody's gonna come to the bar and he just kept saying he's like nobody's gonna drink with me and we were like no like we gotta be up really early like we're we gotta get on the road and he just kept whatever it was funny and then the next day I'm like

Noah how was the bar by yourself and he was like oh you know and I said well why didn't you just call it a night like everyone else was calling it a night and he said because I get FOMO and I'm like

FOMO with yourself? There was no one else going to the bar. It was just you. Is it FOMO of strangers? Yeah, he said it's just FOMO of life. FOMO of life. I feel like people could relate to that. No, once you said it, I understood what you meant. Maybe FOMO isn't the right word, but it's like not taking advantage of your situation. Well, from the White Lotus. Yeah. Gotta take advantage of it.

But that's like true. You were taking advantage of the hotel bar. Actually though, hotel bars, it's like when are you going to be in a nice hotel again? No, I don't know. Maybe never. Yeah, no, you're right. But I didn't understand it at first when you said, I was like, no one else was there. And then I was like, wait, now I get it. Sarah did join me.

Just to put that out there. I didn't go drink by myself. Not that I have any problem. You've done it before. I've done that many times. Enjoying a nice drink by yourself. No issue. But that sounds nice. A nice dinner after the gathering in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, it was a chill night. We had some time with our family over the weekend. Yeah, it was lovely. Yeah, some nice time. How was your weekend? It was beautiful. It was my grandma's 88th birthday on Sunday.

So we had dinner Saturday night. We did brunch on Sunday. Just a lot of celebrating, lovely meals. My aunt and uncle were down as well, one of my cousins. So we got to enjoy it. It was really a lot of fun. Sat on the beach on Saturday. It was just stunning. It was really beautiful. That sounds lovely. Yeah.

And that's really kind of it. We did a White Lotus watch party on Saturday, a Saturday, Sunday night. And I had to listen to my dad complain for the first hour of the episode. About how nothing was happening? Yeah, he was like, what is something going to happen? So nothing's happening. Another dud, this is a dud, dud episode. I think these are the classic dad takes. Oh, yeah.

Every single time. And he was just... Yeah, it was funny to see the reactions. But no, it was good. We had a lot of fun. I mean, Saturday we went out for a little bit after dinner and we were at the grouper and the basketball was on the TV. Yeah. And... Tough. We kind of like saw it towards the end and it was...

66 59 Duke with like a minute and a half left and we walked away we said oh it's over like they're shooting free throws like it's you know it's over yeah so we stopped looking we just did it we walked away we were like out of the dock we get into our car we drive home we walk into the house my mom's still awake and she's got the the end of the game is on the TV and my mom we were my mom looks at she goes man

crazy about Duke losing. And we go, what are you talking about Duke won? And she was like, no they didn't. We're like, mom, yeah they did. She was, I'm telling you, no they didn't. And when we looked, we looked at our phone, we're like, oh my god. We sat on the couch, we had to rewind the TV so we could watch. Let me tell you, it was insane.

Where were you at home? Well, so actually, crazy night out on Saturday. Me, my dad, mom, and Aunt Deb went to the casino for three and a half hours. And let me just say, by the way, these three, if you're going to meet anybody who loves the casino more than they do, it's not going to happen. So all day, they're like, we're going to go to the casino after dinner, right? I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah, I'm there. So we get to the... My dad's like, oh, but you want to watch the Duke game? I said, yeah, but we can go and...

We can go right after dinner because we're going to eat dinner early. So we can go at 6 o'clock and whatever happens, we'll be home by the end of the game. So we go to the casino, which, by the way, everyone ventures off on their own, right? Like, it's a huge casino and they're all like, okay, I'm going. They all know their spots now, okay? These three gamble together a lot. They know their spots. So they split up. I'm a lone wolf. I'm like, all right, well, I'll go find my spot, I guess. Yeah.

I was playing roulette for a long time. And let me tell you, I had a talk to me sign on my head, I think, because every old man in the joint wanted to talk to me. Yeah. And I was also by yourself. Yes. I actually had a weird moment where a guy was following me around and I turned around and I just looked at him and he said, I just want to talk. I said, no, no.

And then he walked away. I think he was like, okay, not the girl. Not the girl. I literally went, no. And he just walked away. But besides that, when I was sitting roulette, this old man comes right up to my face, inches away. He goes, you're not smiling. I said, I just looked at him like this.

straight face like please but someone some people talk to you I find it entertaining like I'll talk to people next to me meet people whatever they're always some entertaining creature in some form um but the old men no no not creepy old men but I had another guy next to me and I hit a number and I had more money on it than him and he was like

Oh, I had money on that too, but not as much as you apparently. And he's like screaming. I'm like, I'm sorry, dude. And then he left. He left the table. I was like, okay, sorry. So I actually was having a pretty entertaining time by myself. Yeah. Besides the guy following me. Nobody was happy to hear that. Yeah. I went to go find my parents. They were like, what? And I was like, no, I'm good. I'm here. I'm here. Yeah, no, for sure. But,

After I got off the roulette table, I passed my dad. My dad's nursing two slot machines. He's sitting in front of one and he's playing the other one too. He's tapping two spins at the same time. He sees me and goes, oh, thank God you're here. I need you to sit in this seat. And I was like, all right, I'm on it. Me and my dad sat next to each other at these two slots for maybe an hour and a half, two hours. Like nonstop. Because we...

we were winning but it was like we were right there you know yeah it's just one of those things that like and then and then my dad would be like okay cash out cash out we'll take that money and then we're gonna put a little bit more and so we know that we have this money like oh it was like we were doing mathematics the whole plan and he's like he's like i could feel it you're gonna win me this he's like you got the tap going he's like you're gonna win me this and i was like dad i'm gonna fucking win you this i did not yeah shocker yeah you know you're at the casino it's just they make you believe

I really don't fully understand how the slots just confuse me. It depends which ones you play. And my dad has his... He likes to play roulette or blackjack, whatever. But these certain slots that have more to them than just the sevens or whatever. This has a little more magic to it. But I was like...

because it kept going up and whatever and you know we didn't we didn't get what we wanted of course but it made us for an hour and a half believe right that we were going to so that was fun but we were watching the game on my phone in between the two slots I had it down and I was like Duke was winning the whole time so we're like oh nice okay cool Duke's winning whatever my dad's like oh shit I forgot to bet on the game I was gonna bet on Duke I was like oh whatever and then we get home Justin there's like

I want to say four minutes left in the game. So we were watching the four minutes that were left. All of a sudden, it just goes downhill. Aunt Debbie's calling herself bad luck. She's like, I got to get out of the room. I got to get out of the room. I wasn't watching before. Now I'm watching and they're losing. She's like, I'm going to leave. Then she left. Yeah. And it just progressively. No, it did not do the trick. It didn't. And it progressively got worse and worse and worse.

And my dad was like, oh, well, I'm glad I didn't bet on the game. I was like, oh, yeah. But I was watching Matt was on Instagram live.

Because he was at a different... He was at a bachelor party, a different casino, watching it live there. And it was like, you know, the hopes and dreams just got sucked right out of him. I couldn't believe what he just watched. And he said, like, there were so many other bachelor parties there and so many other guys that were obviously just, like, screaming at him and, you know, rubbing it in his face. And you can imagine that's not going to make somebody happy after their team just lost. Yeah, that sucks. So, yeah, that did suck. And...

You know, I become invested in the last couple minutes of it. You know what I mean? And I was like, damn, that does suck. But there were a lot of happy people out there. You know, a lot of people despise Duke, so. I don't know. Yeah, that is true. I don't know. I mean, the...

Jason Isaac's wearing a Duke shirt the entire season with the gun. And then last night's episode, the opening, he's wearing the Duke shirt and he's popping the pills. And Matt's like, are you fucking serious? I know. And then, I don't know if it's the same. I would guess yes. But when Zion was negotiating with Gary, Greg, whatever, he was like, I went to U of H. And I was like, is U of H Houston? Yeah.

Wait. University of Houston? Wow. What else would U of H be? He said U of H? Yeah, that is Houston. Oh, I feel like people would have said something. I'm not. I don't know why I thought he said some other college.

Yeah, I think U of H is Houston. U of H is Houston, but I don't remember if that's what he said. That's insane if he did. Did Mike White just predict? I picked up on it immediately that he was like, I went to U of H business school or whatever he was saying to try and say that he was good at negotiating. Let me tell you. Yeah. That's insane. Is that crazy? Yeah, that is really crazy. Wow. Oh, wait. I mean...

People are saying that. Someone said UH Hawaii, but that can't be right. Oh, maybe. Oh, maybe because she works in Hawaii. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure he said U of H. Yeah. I do see other people saying that they think it's Houston. Yeah.

Damn. That's crazy. Because it's like, is Belinda from Hawaii or was she just working in Hawaii? Yeah. You know? That's a good question. Because I think she was just working in Hawaii. It really was a crazy foreshadowing for the season of Duke. They should have seen it coming. I mean. Right. Right. They knew they were just shit out of luck after that. Yeah. But yeah, that was insane. I know I texted you and I was like, that's tough.

I just wrote and you were like, wait, we didn't see. And I was like, oh my God. No, I literally, I, and then I, I wasn't looking at my phone. We were like leaving. I, I finally looked at my phone. I had like 20 text messages from other group chats and stuff being like, holy shit. Can't believe that just happened. And I was like, oh no.

Bad. Oh, no. Just bad. Oh, no. But... Yeah. I know. I probably do fall into more of a Duke hater category than I do a Duke lover. I've become a little bit more indifferent, but...

For many years, it was like a passionate hate. Duke is Syracuse's rival when they went to the ACC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. That does make sense. But yeah, so that national championship is on tonight. Yeah. Who are you rooting for? Just a little bit sadder. Florida. I think Florida. I'm rooting against the people who beat Duke.

I like the Florida team. And it seems like everyone thinks Florida's going to win, so it's like, all right, we'll just go Florida. Right, right, right. Oh, really? I'm the opposite. I'm like, if everyone wants Florida. I was really excited. I thought Florida Duke would be like a really, really great. I mean, I don't know what will happen tonight, obviously. It's not like Houston isn't good. They won, you know? Yeah, I just don't. I'm just like not invested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I don't care. Yeah, no offense to Houston, but it's like. Totally. Yeah. I mean.

My brother thought he won his bracket and he didn't, so that was a tough one. He got all excited and started celebrating and then he was like, oh, actually, no. Damn, that sucks.

I do love like a comeback story though. You know what I mean? Like watching the Houston team be like, no way. I'm like, oh, that must feel so cool for them. You know? Yeah. It's funny because they're all like number one seed. So it's not like they're like underdogs. Right, right, right. So they are all great teams. But yeah, great weekend. And we're ready to get back into the week here, guys. Let's get started.

get into it. I want to talk about the White Lotus. So I'm really trying to get to the Weekly Watch because, wow, I want to dive into all that. But we do have some topics to talk about. We're going to be talking about some Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler rumors, potentially. Did see that one coming. Michelle Williams, hilarious Instagram posting about some

nasty bare feet on a plane next to her uh Gabby Windy and Clayton are fighting the girls are fighting yeah they're fighting and Justin Bieber posted DM if you want to make music and it seems like Drake yeah maybe took the call then we have the weekly watch report so let's get into it start off with the topics

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So these Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler rumors really came out of nowhere, although I can see it. Now, this is one I see way more than I see the Zoe Kravitz and Noah Centineo. Yeah. Which now I'm just thinking must be a film. Right. But Zoe Kravitz. We're going purely off aesthetics. Yeah. Like it's just like no like serious actor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know Noah Centineo is a serious actor, but not as serious as Austin Butler. I mean, nobody could be as serious as Austin Butler in the world of acting. Yeah.

I thought that there were rumors about Austin Butler and Madeline Klein. Dumois was posting that for a while, that Austin Butler and Madeline Klein were seeing each other, which also made sense to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Everybody in Hollywood's just like, yeah, whatever. It makes sense. But the Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler, I'm like, you know what? I really can see that. I know. I thought so, too. And this is really not coming from anything too substantiated. It's a source told The Sun that...

They have been spending time together over the past few weeks. Are they in a new movie or something together? Zoe and Austin? Yeah. Because this is the caught stealing. Maybe that's why I'm thinking that they make sense together. Oh, it comes out this summer. They're both in it. Oh.

Caught Stealing is an upcoming crime thriller film, Darren Aronofsky, starring Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz, Regina King, Matt Smith, Bad Bunny, Vincent DiCaprio. Yeah, okay, so they were kissing on that set, so they must be romantically involved on the set. Okay, so you know what? This one makes me not buy into it a little bit more because sometimes I feel like they just want, maybe they're stirring up a little pre-movie vibe.

Little pre-movie whispers. You know, pre-release whispers. Right, and now I'm looking at an old Daily Mail article from August 2024 of Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz gazing into each other's eyes, but with Channing Tatum. Right, right, right. Because they joined, Zoe Kravitz, your sweet moment with Austin Butler as they joined her fiance Channing Tatum at the Blink twice after Radio City. But they look like, I saw this photo and I said, oh, they're gazing into each other's eyes. Yeah, yeah. Then I realized it was with Channing Tatum. Huh.

So now I'm not quite sure about all this. I'm a little bit confused. Right. The source did say they got on very well and their chemistry is as good off screen as it is on.

Austin and Zoe have been keeping it under the radar and aren't putting a label on anything yet. They are both very respectful of their ex-partners and are just seeing how things go. Now I don't know about these two. I thought maybe there was something, but I think I was going off based on the fact that they were shooting a movie together and kissing on set from pictures that I saw. Right, which does make sense for sure. But maybe there was a little... I feel like they both kind of like an on-screen and take-it-off-screen relationship.

type situation. We know it just worked for Zoe and Channing, obviously. And that didn't work. And also, that's a very nice sentiment for them to be respectful to their exes. And Channing Tatum's out and about with his new girlfriend, no problemo. Right. Yeah. Which I don't know how to feel about that. I'm not dying about this new relationship with Channing Tatum. But I mean, what does he care what I think? But I'm just like... Well, no offense to her. She's just not...

She's not a big name. Yeah. So I think we like have always gotten so attached to the big name. Like it was like, oh, the move and the movie like Channing Tatum also was a was an off screen on screen guy. Right. It was like, you know, Jen Jawan on screen, then off screen. Zoe on screen, then off screen. And didn't he date Ellie Goulding? Did he? No, no, not Ellie Goulding. That was Ed Sheeran. Oh, yeah. Channing Tatum was with. Why am I? Jesse. Jesse.

Jessie J. Jessie J. Jessie J. That's correct. Yes. That is correct. So I think maybe, no, but I also think she looks really young in this model. Yeah, yeah. So I think that's also maybe why. She is. Well, that's, she is. She's like 26, so. But that's definitely a factor for sure. But yeah, I think with something like this, it would make sense, right?

But it's interesting because I'm saying that they've been hanging around a lot, but I feel like we haven't seen them, so maybe they've been in the shadows. You know, there haven't been a lot of pictures of them. Yeah, maybe they've been laying low. It's been Noah Centineo. Yeah, right. Noah Centineo has just been the mask this whole time. Yeah, yeah. Which we must find out what's going on with this movie now. Though, like, if Noah Centineo and Zoe Kravitz are making a movie together, you know, I'm a little bit more interested in that at this point. Right, right. Well, listen to this timeline here.

They were spotted locking lips on set in October 2024. That's when they were filming the movie. And she did call off her engagement to Channing Tatum in October 2024. Ooh. Ooh. Interesting. Maybe there was a little extra something something she felt for Austin. Shoot. Damn. You know.

Maybe, maybe. Yeah, I don't want to say, but it could be. Yeah. Yep. Huh. I know. That was in October? Time flies. That was in October. Time does fly, I know. Holy shit. I know. Yep. Wow. Exactly. Interesting. Well, we'll have to keep an eye out on this situation. And Austin and Kaya did kind of break up around that same time, too. They did. It was later in the year.

Towards the end of 2024, this says that they broke up. Interesting. If I had glasses on, I'd be pulling them down a little bit and looking up from them. The wheels are turning. They are. I feel like a bicycle inside my head spinning real fast. So we got our eyes on you two. Yeah. We got our eyes peeled, you crazy kids. Yeah. Although let me tell you, this makes for a great episode.

press run for them when they start promoting this movie let's do it up like Sidney and Glenn right now we're gonna get Zoe Kravitz Austin Butler doing press together yeah I mean I'm eating that up for breakfast lunch 100% I really am and then for my sides too yeah like I'm into it

it all portions the more we talk about things sometimes the more it grows like i'm like oh wow you know we're really getting to this and i'm really eating it no we built it up that these two are meant to be together right now all of a sudden i'm like oh my god you know forget channing yeah right these two was right in front of the whole time the whole time oh my god bradley cooper and lady gaga uh well we're gonna keep our eye out on this one i'm invested

Just like I'm invested in this Clayton and Gabby fighting situation that's going on. Now listen, here's the thing. Gabby Windy at this point could say literally anything and I will buy into it and laugh. Like I will, I'm like, yes. Yep. You're speaking the truth. Yep. You're hilarious. Like I, everything Gabby says. And I think we're all like that right now, you know? So now she's on an absolute heater right now. She's on a heater. Yeah.

She is just fucking hilarious. She's the moment right now. And you just buy into her and you want to listen to every word she says. She found herself talking a little smack about Clayton, who let's remember Gabby was on Clayton's season, as was Rachel, and Clayton broke up with the two of them at the same time, which then prompted them to have their own bachelorette season. That did not end well. Loved them both, the whole thing, you know. He loves them, the whole thing. Gabby went on to, you know, make fun of Clayton's dancing, kind of called him ugly. Yeah.

Yeah, she did. I believe she said he looked like a toe. No, I thought she said toed. But either one is insulting. I think maybe toe. I think toe, like the toes in Spy Kids. Yeah, yeah. Now to add on, I was just saying, trying to think what Gabby's thinking here. I listened to the whole, I listened to the episode. She was on Las Culturistas. They were joking about her time on The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, because...

She's just such a, obviously, different person. Which is an amazing crossover, by the way. Gabby Windy on Lost Cultural Reels. Oh my, it was fantastic. I was so excited when I saw it. It's so good. And they, you know, they were laughing. They were making jokes. And yes, some of them were at Clayton's expense. Who hasn't sent Clayton's videos in their group chat making fun of him? Right. No kidding. But I'm not. But I am. And look, there is the ability...

For women to make jokes and make fun of their exes should not be taken away from them. Mm-hmm. You know? For sure. That's the tales all this time. It is. Joking around with your friends, making fun of your ex. For sure. You know, I wish him well. Hope he's great. Yeah. But yeah, I'm going to make fun of him. He's my ex. For sure. It's that, you know, maybe that...

could be a controversial stance I don't think it's controversial I would hope it's not I don't think it's kind of one sided though you have to admit like if Clayton were to say what she said about her well yes here's the thing it would be very bad but like Gabby that's like Gabby's sense of humor if Clayton

all of a sudden like it would be so off brand for Clayton that it wouldn't make any sense right like listen if somebody else other than Gabby gets on and is like Clayton looks like a toe and I hate his dancing and he's this yeah people are probably gonna be like yeah that's that's mean you know they'll probably say it about me what I just said they'll say that's mean

But with Gabby, it is her sense of humor. So I think if you were to ask Gabby straight up, I think she'd be like, I was just kidding around. Also, Gabby makes fun of herself. She makes fun of her own love. She makes fun of everybody and everything. So it's like... I don't know. And I just think the response from Clayton was very serious. You know, sit down, address the camera, said she was bullying him. It was... It just...

You're going to lose me a little bit with the bullying on that in that sense. Yeah. No, I agree. And also I want Clayton to keep dancing for sure. If it makes him happy, it makes him happy. He loves doing it. It's taking him out of his comfort zone. He loves dancing. I see the videos. I watch them.

I watch them. But you know, I'm not his ex. So it's a totally different situation. And we've talked about this before. Ex is probably very loose. We've talked about this on the show before and I forget who it was with. But it was like, I admire people who put themselves out there and do what they like to do, even if people think it's cringy or weird or whatever it is.

and if that is dancing for Clayton then he should absolutely do that and keep doing it it makes him happy people watch it people like it like that's fine on the other side of that you're gonna have people that do make fun of you and I'm sure you know that I mean I'm sure there's things that we do that or I do that people are like cringe but like you like doing it so right you're gonna keep doing you're gonna keep doing it you just have to accept that some people are gonna call it cringy for sure and

I think put yourself out there. Do whatever you have to do. Gabby is just like a jokester. And look, we're probably biased. We love Gabby. We're going to come to play. We can't admit that. And I'm sure people listening are like, no, that was mean and uncomfortable. Totally fair if you feel that way as well. It's just I think in this circumstance and knowing Gabby, she does not have –

She's not mean-spirited. She's not at all. It's not coming from an evil place. It's not. It's not coming from a bullying place. It's like laughing at your ex when you see your ex doing something cringy on social media and you're laughing with your friends about it being like, you see the last video he posted? Right, for sure. And I think...

At the end of the day, Gabby leaving that and not thinking twice about Clayton or what she said about Clayton, not even giving it a second thought, and it's really not coming from a mean place. Yeah. You know, if it's somebody who doesn't really talk about a joke and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, God, these – whatever, it's different. Right. It's going to make you feel worse because clearly it hurt Clayton's feelings that he felt he needed to, you know, post a whole response to it. But –

It's just... Clayton should just make the cringiest dancing videos of all time now. I just think it wasn't that serious. Dressed as a toe. You should say that as like he hasn't already been doing that. No, but I'm saying that he should just lean in extra hard now. Yeah, yeah. He's going to keep dancing his little heart out. As he should. Yep. You know? Yep. If it makes you happy. You know, Clayton?

Amen, sister. Keep doing it. Put on those dancing shoes and get out there. Seriously, tap away. Seriously, go for it. Moving on, this was hilarious. Michelle Williams was posting on her Instagram that she had somebody with their bare feet

Putting their feet up next to her. And she was sitting in the first class cabin. And I mean, this is just never okay. Like, let's be honest. Taking your shoes and socks off on an airplane should never be allowed. Even when people come on wearing sandals. First of all, I'm like, aren't your feet cold? You know, I like, oh, whatever. But this is.

This, the hygiene of it all is just despicable. And the whole, oh, actually, now I know I'm being distracted because I just opened Instagram to find the post for Michelle and the first thing to pop up is...

A Dumois post that actually says the sighting was submitted last Monday and a breakup email submitted last Thursday was that Gleb and Brooks plus her whole family were filming. There's been a lot of sightings of them that they may be filming a show. I saw an Us Weekly article last week as well that said that the Nader girls have something going on.

In that space. But now that there was an email that says, was at an event, and this is from last week, was at an event hosted by Brooks Nader last night, huge filming crew. They're filming a show. Everyone signed the releases. Gleb cheated on Brooks and she dubbed him yesterday. Uh-oh.

What? Uh-oh. Perfect timing while filming a TV show, huh? Oh my, no, right. What? Oh, they're filming a TV show and he just, they just happen to be together and then he cheated on Brooke. When has he even had time to cheat on her? I feel like he's been with her all so much. But the tour, the dancing with the star star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has been on tour. Is he fucking serious? What a cliche. Is he fucking serious? Yeah, of course. You know, I wouldn't put anything past that guy to be honest. That's actually genuine. How?

fucking dumb do you have to be? Yeah, yeah, I know. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to do that? And he had quite the good setup right now, especially if, you know, these rumors are true, if they are filming a show right now, like, I think a show with them is really gonna pop off. The girls are so funny and so entertaining that I just think, like, what a...

What a great way for, you know, if Gleb cares about staying relevant, it would be staying on that show. No, but what the hell is wrong? Okay, first of all, I mean, I never even bought into their relationship to begin with, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then people are posting it together. I know, but then they really started seeing like they were dating these last few months. Then it seemed like they were really dating. Everyone was like, oh my God, I love them, I love them, I love them. Holidays, family vacations. I mean, seriously. Yeah. What?

What the fuck is wrong with him? I don't know. How dumb do you have to be? You gotta be pretty dumb. How self-obsessed do you have to be? You gotta be pretty dumb. Yeah. That's insane. Yeah. Oh my God. What a fucking idiot. Makes for a great TV show though. I know. We'll see if that's true or not. I don't know. And that unfolds. Right, because obviously this is also, just to clarify, this is anonymous email sent to Dumas. So don't know for sure because I have seen Gleb on a lot of their shows

Like even the sisters have been posting him a lot too, that he's been around. So I guess we'll see how that plays out. But back to Michelle Williams. Why an idiot? If that's true. Jeez. I know it's crazy. Jeez.

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And if she turned to her right to the window or, you know, left if she was on the other side of the plane, that somebody had their foot right in the crevice. Yeah, behind her. The person behind her. Right close. And that is, you know, there are many levels to it. And I know some people take their shoes off on planes. But if you're barefoot, at least keep your barefoot in your space. You're putting it up.

Into somebody else's space you have to keep your feet in your space no matter what that is in that is inhumane behavior Look at those toes right there peeking out. I mean if I saw someone's toes Yeah, right next to me like that first of all I'd tickle them. Yeah, I tickle them first. I'd tickle and then I'd pop up and say yeah Just kidding what the fuck is wrong with you and your little toesies move get your piggies back to the market Seriously and out of my space take all five of them back

Oh, God. And like, they're sticking their foot up like this. And it's just right in someone's face. Who the hell they think they are? Now look, on a long flight. Oh, I'm in first class. I know. I could take, I'm not wearing socks right now. Imagine. No, put those away. I know, it feels weird. Put those away. I feel naked in front of you right now. Really?

I feel like I'm naked. Even sometimes when we're recording in the summer and I come in in sandals, I feel uncomfortable. It feels bare and unusual. Now, I will say on a long flight, I will take my shoes off, but I'm always in socks. Yes. Always. Socks. I also, the thought of traveling in a sandal where your feet are out anyway. Yeah, cold. Yuck. And people are looking at your feet. Yuck. I don't want to see your feet. Although I don't have like,

I think against feet so much in the way that other people do. No, no. I don't have a fetish, but I don't have a like, ew, feet. No, I'm not disgusted by feet. People like freak out. They're like, oh,

I can't be near a foot. And it's like, okay, well, relax. You're just being dramatic. Just how people are dramatic about the word moist. You don't actually hate the word. So let's move along. This though is just really psychotic behavior because it's, it shows me that you think you run the world. It's your world. We're all just living in it. And that's that. That's like putting it that close. That's how I feel about when people cross the crosswalk while the red hand is up and you're driving and they're crossing your world. Yeah. Forget me. It's your world.

So true. So true. Nobody else lives in it. Sorry. I was laughing because Michelle has made a lot of comments. And by the way, this is Michelle from. It happened a couple of times recently. Ria road raves. I roll down the. This is what I do. I roll down the window. I go your world. Yeah, that's it. Oh, man. But this is Michelle Williams from Dusty's Child. And she did leave it up.

And has been still talking about it. And honestly, I was cracking up because the comments were really making me laugh because she did clarify that she was sitting in the first class cabin. And then she said, seat three F, F is for feet. And, but then Beyonce's mom, Miss Tina, did comment. She was like, I'm so sorry that you have to go through that. Accidentally waste some ice cold Coke on him. I bet he'll move them then. It's also the funny, imagine you just like,

poured your glass right on that foot. The funny irony in it, though, was like, I'm so sorry you have to go through that in first class. Yeah, right? Gosh, that is just despicable. Yeah, yep. But man, people were really...

Everyone was laughing in the comments. I mean, it's crazy. You see some crazy shit on flight sometimes. Let me ask you now. I have a question for you. This is a man question. Oh, shit. Yes. It's a gentleman question, I may say. Say you're sitting in the aisle and the row next to you, there's a woman in the aisle. So picture me and Fran, but I'm you. And we're both coming out. Do you let...

the woman go first or do you try to get out first? You're saying we're in the same row? You're in the same row just across from each other. You let the woman go first. Yeah.

She's in the row behind us now. No, obviously. You're not going to let... If I'm in 13 and she's in 14... No way. No way. That's... If you are in a row behind me, you are not getting past me. You win your turn. But if you're in the same row, but it's just you're on the left, she's on the right... Honestly, I let everyone go in my row. What's wrong? There's something in your hair. Oh.

Oh, whatever. It's probably crumbs. Oh, my God. It's a piece of my cinnamon raisin bagel. It's a piece of your cinnamon raisin bagel for sure. Shit. Look at that. Oh, my God. How disgusting. I was saving it for later. Classic. No, that's gentlemen. I mean, you should. As you should. Yeah. I'll even help you get your stuff if you need it. Yeah, that's very nice. As you should. The guy next to me was across from me on the row yesterday.

He jumped up immediately. He's standing. He's taking up the entire space. I'm like, excuse me. Excuse me. Trying to get my bag. He goes, oh, are you getting your bag down? I said, yeah, I'm trying to get my bag down. Oh, my bad. Stands in his exact same space. I'm like, are you fucking... And then I'm just glaring at him. Yeah. And then, of course, he went before me. Yeah. You know? And I'm just like...

I now got a little taste of who you are as a person on the streets. Right, right, right. You won't hold the door for a lady. Right. You don't open the car door for anybody. That guy, he threw chivalry out the window a long time ago. He said, fuck this. I'm over it. I purposely don't stand up.

Until like, because I don't want to be that guy. Like I'll sit there and let everyone else, you know, try to jump up. I got no problem with people popping up and grabbing their bags. That's not it. You know like the second that the plane turns off or whatever and everyone's... Oh, yeah. I'm like, I don't want to be part of that. The woman across the aisle from me, I've never seen someone move so fast when the seatbelt sign turned off. Could be a connecting flight, could be a rush of some sort. I don't know. But...

You know, when you just see a non-gentleman out in the wild, it just makes you question everything. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So true. And also behavior like that with your feet up. I almost thought I was going to have to ask the guy next to me to put the window, the window, what is it called? The window. Shade? Shade, yeah. But if he's next to the window, it's his call. Yeah, but in the morning on a 7.30 a.m. flight. Mm-hmm.

You put the window shade down. I just think that should be standard. It should be standard, but he has the window seat, so he gets to call. But I will, I will say something. Really? If it's left open. Yeah. Wow. Well,

Well, we're just not out of our seats right now. Some people pick the window seat because they want to look outside. Yeah, but if it's that, when it's early in the morning. It's not like a 10-hour flight where you're trying to sleep. I was trying to sleep. What are you talking about? It's a 7.30 flight. I'm trying to sleep. But some people wake up at 6, 7 a.m. on their daily life and they don't want to go back to sleep. I understand that. Bring some night goggles. I would say a majority of the people around me were sleeping.

And he was disrupting them? No, he put it down as soon as the flight took off. Oh, but you thought you were going to have to see it. Yes. But then if he were to be like, it's my window, I can do whatever I want. Yeah. There's a world where he could say, I want to have it up and say, okay. Yeah. Damn. And look, it's probably on me. I should probably bring an eye mask, but I don't like... Or buy the window seat.

Yeah, I'm not. I mean, not my call. Right, right. We were flying for work. Yeah, you're right. I do like a window seat, but sometimes not my choice when they... I was put in an aisle as well. Yeah, when they were booking flights for us. I'm a window or aisle.

Yeah. And when I get the aisle, I'm like, ooh, I can go to the bathroom whenever I want. When I get the window, I'm like, ooh, I'm cozy. But if you're in the aisle, then you have to get up possibly multiple times for the people next to you. Yeah, I don't mind, though. I know, I did feel bad for him because I was asleep the whole time. And as soon as I popped an eye open, because the flight attendant was like, wake up.

I he like got up to go to the bathroom I was like oh poor but he was maybe waiting for me to wake up yeah I'll try to time out if I can like to be nice like if I'll wait for the people next to me if I'm on the window to go to the bathroom I'll just follow them so that they don't have to get up yeah yeah yeah but anyway if I see a foot like that creeping up yes I mean just creeping up around the corner oh no yeah don't take your socks off and put your feet next to people's chairs I mean no what are we doing no your world yeah uh

Last topic here. Justin Bieber posted on his Instagram. If you want to collab, if you want to make music together, DM me. Drake commented that he DM'd and got no reply. Now I was thinking, for both Justin Bieber and Drake, what they both need right now is each other. They need to come together and make some fucking hits. These two right now, if they came together and made an album. Yeah.

I always thought Drake was joking. No, he definitely was joking. But then it sparked something in me where I thought, wow, if these two came together and made an album, people would go fucking nuts. Have they made music together? They just did the music video for Popstar. Yeah, it's just when Justin did the music video. Drake's never done a song featuring Justin or vice versa. Not to my knowledge. Crazy. A couple Canadians, you know?

Some Canadian love there. That's what I'm saying. I thought maybe they would connect. Oh, they did. Right here. It was on. Oh, yeah. Right here. That's a Justin Bieber song featuring Drake. Yeah. That was like really early on. What year was that? Yeah. Is that on? What was that on? Believe? No. That was on. Yeah. Believe. Believe. 2012. I never heard that.

So that was a long time ago. Nice call from me. I mean, and Drake was starting, you know, 2011, I would say, was Drake's, you know, that's when he started coming on the scene. So that was early on. Now, I think if these two made an album together, people would go insane. I'm putting that at, like, Drake should see that comment. I mean, Justin should see that comment and go, oh, shit, I gotta do something here. From what we heard of that sample, that he, Justin, could use Drake's help. He could. That was a real song. And,

For PR purposes, they could both use each other right now. You know, if they came together and they let all their personal stuff go aside and they were like, let's just make some banging music for the world, people will just love us this summer. If they put out a summer album, Drake and Justin, everyone would be like, what? What's going on? Oh, they're great music. Right.

No, you're definitely true. Definitely true. You are right. I'm true. That is true. You are true. True. You are true. I'm just trying to think now, like, because you know what came on in the car this morning was a little Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber. A classic. Like, just get back in with the right people. Yeah. You know? I don't know who he's hanging out with lately. Get back in with the right people. But they're...

Not flourishing his artistic ability enough. No, no, no. They're not propping him up in the ways. You know who he's got to work with.

Benny Bronco and let me say did you see that slip when I'm with my baby oh yeah oh I love that song I don't care I should always put that in the podcast the problem is he's not you know him and Benny will never collaborate again and he does need Benny maybe he will after that it's a great song I love that song I'll be too teary eyed

Did you guys see the slipper Rooney that Justin Bieber had apparently liking the complex posts of Benny and Selena. Let me tell you something. I don't know if it's Photoshopped these days. I feel like any of his social media activity I feel is Photoshopped. I know.

I don't know, though. Even when you see it with your own eyes? Yeah. Have you seen his Instagram? That's not Photoshop. Yes, yes. But that's what I'm saying. Like, it's so off the rails all the time that when it's like other things, I'm like, ah, I feel like people are taking advantage because he's being ridiculous on social. That they're like, ooh, I bet everyone's going to believe this now if I, if like fan accounts post it. They want to get views. They stir shit up. Yeah, Noah's looking up a song lyric right now. No, I'm not. I'm not. I totally, yeah.

Did you guys get all those videos from on TikTok of I literally did not even see the actual episode, but I think I saw the entire thing via clips on TikTok of Benny Blanco.

On some guy's podcast. I don't even know who it was. Going through all his music. I feel like that guy goes on every podcast. I see him on like a million different podcasts. Yeah, he's been doing a lot. But this one was really cool because it was the first one that I've really seen him like deep dive into all the songs that he's made. I saw Maroon 5 stuff. No, but there's so many. So many. The Katy Perry songs. Katy Perry. Maroon 5. Like so many. Eminem. Sia. And he has all these. He has all like the demos on his computer. He's like playing the original.

I wonder how the artists feel about that because he played like the original demo from Maroon 5 for like Animals or whatever the song was and like Adam Levine like he didn't sound great like he's just playing these like I can't believe I've never looked this up before I've been I'm like when I see these videos I'm like how old is Benny Blanco but I've never gotten to look it up he's 37 which he is making these songs he was so young like it's

Still so young in my eyes. I know, I know. It was just really so impressive. And you go back and my God, did he really make some bangers for Justin Bieber and Selena too. Have you ever seen that video of Ed Sheeran and Benny Blocko on like a tour bus making Love Yourself? Like just on the bus? No. It's pretty sick. No. I mean, he said, I forget which song it was. Maybe Diamonds or like...

Yeah. Something that he just made that they made in 20 minutes. And it was an end of a session for Sia. Yeah. And she was like on her way out. Her car was 20 minutes away. And they were like, ah, let's just do this. And they like made diamonds in 20 minutes. And it was just it was originally like Sia was singing on it. I saw Danny Conrad, who works in Chicago, made a funny video where he's like pretending to be Benny Blanco, like.

as if he made like the star spangled banner it's like he's made every song oh yeah he's like yeah so we were just like in the shop working and then like yeah he has made every no it's crazy he's made every banger out there justin like needs him i know but the thing is he can never oh no it's over that's why he needs drake yeah yeah but you don't think there's any world where like eventually him and benny like like you think they actually like zero percent chance because he's dating his ex

I mean, it's not going to marry her. Literally getting married. What world is Selena? Like not. Yeah, babe, you head to the studio and work with Justin. I think it's because I think I don't. Yeah, I don't think Justin has a problem with Benny Blanco getting married to Selena Gomez. I think that they just can never be in each other's paths anymore because of

like kind of the way the world reacts if Selena and Justin or Benny or Hayden were to ever interact with each other. Like I think they just have to not be in each other's worlds. Yeah, completely. Yeah.

It just opens a whole other can of worms that none of them need. And does it seem like Justin was having a little bit of a, oh my God, Selena Gomez is marrying Benny Blanco moment? A little bit. It did seem that way a little bit. 100% had to have. 100% had to have. But I think for Selena, she's like, oh God, just ignore him. No, and it's like... And even from...

Haley's standpoint I think for everybody it's just easier it's like you said it's open a can of worms if they if there was rumors that Justin and Benny were working together all of a sudden the girls get dragged into it it's like this then the story becomes oh Justin's not over Selena he's still he's still trying to be close to her like ah Haley loses again like yeah right he needs Benny yeah like the same narrative that the same like tired narrative would just continue forever so it's just I

I really... It'll just never happen, even though...

Musically, it would be great for everybody. It would be. It would be. But unfortunately, I don't think that's ever going to happen. And I don't know if Drake and Justin... Selena gets... On the other hand, Selena gets the full... Right. The Benny Wonka treatment. The full plus of not only marrying him, but he made her entire new album. And it's fucking fire. So that's, you know, that's what he's missing out on. It's like, oh, this is maybe one of the better Selena albums. And, well, it's no coincidence. Right. Good work, Benny. Collaboration with Benny. Now...

I don't think there's actually a possibility that Drake and Justin will make music together, but if so, you know, we'll just put it out there. Yeah, yeah. And it would be, you know, who's to say? There was a lot of people in the comments, a lot of people in the comments who were either rooting for that or pushing for themselves, which is super fair. I would too. Right. You know, if I was musically inclined. All right, that wraps up the topics.

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All right, let's get into the Weekly Watch Report where we talk about the things we watch this week. Weekly Watch Report on Monday. If I was talented, I would sing it in the White Lotus theme song, but I can't. Ooh.

I can't. You know that. We lost the whole jingle. I know. Because midway I thought, fuck. Yeah. I can't do it. Well, that guy's probably looking for work now. On Monday, weekly watch poor. Yeah, right. He's out. On Monday, weekly watch poor. On Monday, weekly watch poor. On Monday. Yeah, no, the composer's out now. So if he wants to come here and do the jingle for weekly watch poor. You know, we probably should just record it and play it every week. No, I think it's better. Okay. It's charming. It's a variety. It's kind of like, what mood is she in this week? Right. Yeah.

That's true. Yeah. Okay. Well, listen, I mean, I want to talk about White Lotus right off the bat, but I think I got to get the other stuff out of the way because we're going to spend a while talking about it, I assume.

I had to watch Anyone But You on the plane yesterday for a second time. I just had to. I saw it. The opportunity was there. And man, I loved it even better the second time. Yeah, I really did. I think it's a great movie. I missed some things. I was like watching on the plane. I mean, both times I watched was on a plane now, but I paid attention a lot more this time. And I even liked it the first time. But this time I really was locked in. And I think it was partially because, you know, now I'm rooting for them as a couple. But yeah.

God, what a film. It's a great movie. It's really a great movie. I'm going to give it an A. Yep. Warm hearted. Lots of laughs. I feel like you probably didn't even give it an A the first time. I don't think so. But second watch, I really. Second watch made it better for her. Yeah, really. Well, I think now there's more like you're buying into it. I was like crying at it. I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I guess I cried a lot of things, but whatever. Love it. Summer House.

We watched on the plane. We did watch on the plane. Live. Yeah. Television on the plane. It's a, you know, the toe thing is just really being amped up into like a big thing. It is Jesse Solomon's storyline. Yeah. I don't hate it like a lot of other people do. No. I think people despise it. But I'm also not totally interested. Yeah. It's running a little long for me.

Yeah, I think it's very fair to say that Jesse maybe sold Lexi a little bit of a different story. Right. I think when it was just him and Lexi, he was so obsessed with her, telling her everything she wanted to hear, and then...

Maybe not acting that way when Lexi wasn't around. Obviously, we saw what was happening for some of these moments. And I think if it was any of the other girls... Okay, so say Ciara and Lexi are switched right now. And Ciara is the one becoming exclusive with Jesse. And he doesn't tell Ciara about the toe thing. But tells her he wants to be exclusive and then sleeps with her that night. People would be losing their goddamn minds. Right, right, right.

they would be like that's so disrespectful reaction they would have a different reaction now I think because Lexi is new and they're not as close with her there's not so much of a large reaction to it which you know they're not that close with her so you are more protective of your other friends but it's still not right like he chose to keep things from her that he knew would upset her and then was able to sleep with her and she was clearly hurt by that she you know

You can feel however you want to feel about Lexi. Yeah. If she's interesting, uninteresting, whatever. Yeah.

It is a little sad when someone is very honest about how they are in relationships and the way they work in that sense. And then it kind of gets like taken advantage of. Yeah, it is. It is disappointing to see. Overall, I'll give it like a C plus. I mean, I find it entertaining every week. It's just nothing crazy is really happening. Yeah, I don't care for like the Lindsay and Carl thing.

I don't know what it is. It's just like, I know it wasn't that long ago because it really wasn't, but it just feels so far removed now just from where they are in their lives. Because Lindsay's having, she got pregnant pretty quickly after and is having a baby. So it's like, let's just move on from this. So it's just like, it's seeing her get upset about a potential DM from this girl. Mm-hmm.

I'm just like, I don't... And apparently that girl did share that she sent the DM in October. And it wasn't August. I don't know. And sometimes I'm like, what's Gabby doing? You know? Because sometimes I feel like she...

really kind of like gets Lindsay riled up a little bit when maybe she needs the opposite. Yeah. She needs to be more like, listen, he's an asshole. Who cares? You moved on with your life. You have this exciting new chapter. Like kind of like give her that more energy rather than like a, oh, Carl was a cheater. Yeah. He sent that. Oh, he totally responded to that DM. It was August, blah, blah, blah, whatever was going on. I don't know. So yeah.

Yeah, that's fair, though, for Summer House. Yeah. Southern Charm reunion. Part two? Part two. I mean, did we ever think we'd be in a place, and maybe I'm in the minority here, that we feel bad for Austin Kroll? Because I felt a little sad for him, not gonna lie. I feel like Craig was clearly reacting in a place of being hurt by his relationship and everything.

And the way that he was just like, well, we just won't be friends to Austin. I was like, it kind of just feel like it's his way or like whatever. And I felt bad for Austin that moment. And like Austin was saying when he sat here with us, I do feel like Austin has grown a bit. He doesn't talk about how much he's grown, but I think you could see a little bit how he's grown. So I felt a little sad for him in the moments with the Craig situation because

It wasn't a good part two for Craig, let's be honest. And I think, you know, it came off of... It was, like, kind of around the time of everything happening, and I think he was probably in a not-so-great spot. 100%. And...

The lawyer lying thing was incredibly bizarre because he said he didn't ever lied on camera and then they showed it and then he still was like, well, I didn't. And it was like, no, you clearly lied. And Andy kind of called him out for that. And he seemed like he was in a weird spot. And yeah,

I didn't like watching it. Yeah, I don't think that was the best version. It wasn't a good showing. Yeah, I don't think that was the best version of Craig at all. And like you said, definitely going through a lot in that moment. And we know when they filmed that reunion, there was just a lot of outside stuff going on too. And I think that that was a big struggle for him. He seemed a little checked out when you're having those conversations. And as a friend, that's one of the most frustrating things is when you're maybe arguing with

with a friend or you just want to, you know, address certain types of behavior and you're just, you're just saying how you feel. You're just trying to explain to that person how you feel. Austin's just trying to explain to Craig how he feels. Yeah. And when your friend's reaction is not hearing you and, and trying to understand, it's like the, you instead you get, well, if you think about that, if you think that about me, then maybe we shouldn't be friends. Right. If you think, if you think that about me, then maybe we're just not friends. Yeah. And you're like,

no, I'm coming from a place because I am your friend and I want to help. Yeah. And when you just like dismiss me, like actually, uh, then, then let's not be friends. You're like, uh, see, like this is why I don't bring anything up because I'm afraid of how you're going to react. Right. And like no apology from Craig or anything. Craig could just be like, oh, I'm sorry. I made you feel that way. And yeah, you know, whatever. And there's,

And then if Austin is still difficult, then maybe, you know, don't be. But at this point, it was just like an immediate reaction. And then the only time I've ever agreed with Shep really was he was like,

You know, Craig, like you were going through like the Adderall and the addiction. Like, it's OK to say that you lie, like which he was right. Like, it's OK to be like, you know, I did lie about that. And you know what? Everyone knows I was not a good place. I was addicted to Adderall. I was doing all these things. I was lying about that. It's OK to own those things. People should 100 percent be able to make mistakes and change them and grow from them as years go on or else.

I mean, everybody has like or else what everyone would be the same all the time. That's not that's no good either. So like if Craig was sitting there being like, yeah, you're right. Like I was in a bad place when I was lying during those times. And, you know, I try not to be that person anymore, like totally different. But instead, he just continues to lie. It just wasn't a good showing. And it really wasn't a good show. Yeah. But I think it was around that time of, yeah.

You know, he was going through a breakup and so many different things going around for him. So many different levels to it. But I'll give that reunion a C plus as well. Yeah. He was on the defense a little bit too much, which is tough. And I don't blame him because it is hard as well when you're with a group of people and you...

you're going to get defensive because you feel like everybody is coming at you a little bit. And everyone's saying they're scared of him. Everyone's saying you're scared. Like, yeah, exactly. They're like, oh, we're all scared of you. And then I'd be like, oh, come on, guys, really? Right. You're like, now, okay, now you're making me seem like a monster. Everyone's scared of me. So there is that point of, like, getting really defensive. Yep. And...

You know, when everyone's gaining up on you, but then you also have to own up to some things. Yeah, I wish he did handle that with Austin differently. Yeah, just a little bit better. But, you know, going through a hard time. And then the White Lotus. So the finale was Sunday night. Everybody was waiting for it, amping up, all the theories going on and on about it. And...

I'm still digesting it, I feel. I feel like I'm still taking it in. That's fair. I don't even know where to begin. I guess I don't know where to begin. Yeah, well, first of all, I guess we'll slap a spoiler warning if you haven't watched it yet. Yes, huge spoiler warning. Because I know, which is crazy to me, because this was the one thing that I'm like, if you're not watching this on Sunday night, you're toast. For sure. Like, you can't open social media. It's literally everywhere. Even from the actors themselves. Yeah, exactly. They're posting everything. I don't know. I go back and forth, because I think that the show...

Like, the finale, it was an hour and a half. So you're here an hour and a half, and you're waiting for, like, these big moments to happen. And I don't know if maybe everyone's expectations are so high, but having it be, like, a full hour into the episode, really even almost a little bit more before there was murder. Yeah. I was like, oh, God. I don't know. I just want, like, I think...

They did tie up a lot of stories, storylines. I understand that. But at the same time, I felt that there could have been so much more at the end with everybody. Like all of a sudden it was just like people died. Now everybody's left the resort. Well, I think all in like 10 minutes. Right. And I think I actually have come around greatly on the fact that I got

so attached to these characters more than I even thought that I was originally. And I really appreciate the show for what it is rather than trying to make it to be something else in my head. Like this show is really...

It's a deep dive into these characters with a murder on the side. It is not supposed to be really a murder mystery show. It's supposed to be, I think, a deep dive on people and rich people and this life that

Rather than a whodunit type of thing. It just has a murder. It just has a little murder sprinkled into it. And I think when you think of it like that, you appreciate it a lot more. Because there's a lot of complaints about like, well, nothing happened with these people. Nothing happened with that. Well, no, there are lessons, I think, in between all of it. Like the three women, right? There, it's like...

okay, well, their storyline was wrapped up because it's three best friends who grew up together. They're going to talk shit about each other. They're going to talk behind each other's back. At the end of the day, what happened? They're all still friends. And they all came together again. And it is funny, though, that when the shooting happened, she ran away immediately. Like, did you see that? Yeah. I forget their names, but she, like, left her friends. They all ran. No, no, but, like, I think it was, like, symbolic of, like, she was, like, they were like, we love each other. And then she runs away immediately, like, doesn't even think about her friends.

I feel like all three of them ran away pretty fast. Yeah, I thought they ran too. Which one are you even saying ran away first? Jacqueline, the celebrity? The one who was crying. Oh, Lori. Yeah. Oh, I mean, they all looked pretty shocked and all started running. But, yeah.

I feel like that storyline was tied up nicely because it was sort of just... I think there's lessons in between all of them rather than nothing happened here. And I grew to really love these characters. I think... Was it my favorite season? No, but I think I got more attached to these characters for some reason and I want to see more of them. I mean, the family...

I think people obviously wanted to see what happens when they find out they're poor. But that's not the kind of show that the White Lotus is. They don't really give the go home and find out how everyone reacts to things. Yeah, I think it's more about the anxiety. Right. It's like a... And then it leaves you wondering kind of how they feel. But...

You know, do you do I wish there was a little more in the first hour? Yeah. But I think the more you digest it and look back on it, you just think more about the characters and the lessons and, you know, the deep dive into that rather than like the action pack. I mean, the dialogue on this show, I think is just fantastic. The writing is so good, but it's not. I think people want and I don't know how to word this correctly because I think Mike White is a genius.

But I think people want him to be even more of a genius than he actually is. Where they're like, they want him to come up with something that nobody could possibly fathom ever remotely happening or nobody could ever think of this theory. Yeah. When you have people speculating every minute, every hour of the day of this show, somebody's going to be right. There's theories all over the place. It's just now with the way that people, the conversation around TV with TikTok, Twitter, whatever.

there's just so much more conversation to be had and people throwing their theories, whatever that like, yeah, somebody eventually is going to come up with something. There are still surprises, but like, there's going to be something that people get right. And like, I think they expect Mike white to pull something out of his ass that no one could ever possibly pull from their brains. And it's like, well, it's,

he's trying to make it a little bit more realistic than you think. I don't think he's trying to do these major like plot twists. There's a lot of foreshadowing in the show that people are like, Oh, spoiler, this theory spoiled. No, no, there was, there was actually foreshadowing in the show. The amount of times Chelsea was like, Oh, bad things happen in threes. And you know, all these things you saying the snake bite and all that. Like when you look back, you're like, Oh, that was all like a, you know? Yeah, definitely. I also think that,

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by the end of the second season and therefore expected the same kind of thing to happen for the third season when it was just kind of a different story being told and money really, once again, it's, you know, it is so money driven and that is such a big part of it. It's like when you think about it in that aspect, it is so clear where they were really going with so much of it, right? It's like, you know, the Ratliff's,

They don't have money. He was literally going to kill them all. I was cracking up at that scene. And didn't. I know. When she was like, there's a whole shelf of wine. I genuinely was losing my mind laughing. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, he's going to kill them all. But then, I don't know. There was just a couple things with the family that just...

Fell a little short for me in the sense that not and I know everyone's like oh I want I really wanted to know what happened to them and like I get it that's not really the point but I know everyone kind of has that desire but I don't know if it was like.

Because like you said, because there's so many people talking about it. And if you open TikTok, there's nine million theories and everybody's saying, oh, I think this is going to happen. I think this is going to happen. That then when you watch it and it does happen, you're kind of like, oh, like, yeah, he did take the fruit and the whole thing. And of course, obviously, you know, whatever would happen with Lachlan. It's like you didn't really see that coming and whatever. But I felt like there were so many like that just felt a little disorganized to me in the sense that like.

I guess it was supposed to maybe, but oh, the fruit, they all drank it, but then they were fine. But then they weren't supposed to be fine. It was only a sip, but then maybe he drank more, but he was still fine. Right. So it was like, I don't know. I just, I didn't,

I didn't necessarily love the way that that all wrapped up for them. The Rick one I thought was totally going to happen. What? I felt that way about everything. I was just like, even when Chelsea got shot, I'm like, oh. Like, it just seemed like, oh, let's just wrap this up somehow. Like, she gets shot because of him.

Yeah, but I think that one was way less. That one was... I felt that one was way more symbolic. Yeah, that one tied into the whole story, though. Chelsea, like, the only thing she ever thought about was Rick. Like, her tunnel vision was on Rick. And she put this guy before herself who really didn't show he cared about her until the final moments when she died, I think, showed a lot where it's also, I think, a lesson in, like...

If you can let go of the past, you know, if you hold on to the past, it's probably it's going to hurt you. I thought the Belinda thing was good, though, that she did exactly what Jennifer Coolidge did. Yeah, she ends up like Tanya. And it's like, yeah, people will just take the money. Let's just throw it out there. Her son.

One of the worst acting. Oh, really? Oh my God. I thought like I actually was cracking up because I while I was watching, I was like, man, I think he's a horrible actor. But at the same time, then because people are like Disney Channel actor. I do think, though, part of it is like.

He's a sophomore in college who's studying business, so he's very cringy, corny. Because I thought he was trying to act like his character was trying to act like... Act older and like a business guy. But still, so I think it was part of his character, but kind of made it seem like he was a bad actor. But it was really because he was like a cringy sophomore in college who was studying business. Yeah, he didn't bother me at all, really. I thought that made...

A lot of sense. And yeah, she... That's a tough one for Belinda. She pulled... Exactly. It just goes back to what money makes people do and power and the same kind of thing with Guy Talk and Mook. She clearly wanted him to get that promotion and be more important. And of course, when that happens, money is involved. Now you're going to get a raise. All of a sudden, you're her head of security. That was funny when he was driving. You're going to have the...

you know, more money. And I feel like that was just another one where it was, she was pushing him all season to, you know, Oh, you know, get care more and get like tougher and like, Oh, you have a gun now you can shoot the gun and all those things. And when he got the opportunity to shoot Rick, he did and he got rewarded for it. Yeah. I thought that mook was going to have a bigger role because she's Lisa. Right. And I was like, Oh,

No. No bigger role. Yeah. It really was kind of a smaller role. She was just the motivating factor for him, I think, to really lose a lot of the moral compass that he had had and maybe like this job wasn't for him, but he is so...

infatuated with this girl that he's going to do whatever it takes including murder yeah I thought the robbers were sort of point that that it kind of turned out yeah that one ended up like I was like really nothing's gonna like Laurie they need the money Laurie's not gonna tell her friends about the stolen jewelry I know which is why I guess it's just like another thing of like the right it's like they a lot of times it feels like on White Lotus Mike White goes with the path of like those that are

and devious and morally compromised, things work out for them. And it's like, oh, we'll watch these guys who have no money rob the hotel, but they get away with it. Right. And it kind of just felt like, I thought something bigger was going to happen. Even Sam Rockwell, I loved him, and I love Sam Rockwell, but a lot of, I'm like, oh, what was the point of all that? He just partied with him for a night. Yeah, I don't think that Rick's dad had the big...

That maybe they thought it was going to have. Like, I really don't think that... Well, it's just the problem is, is everyone predicted... Like, it's like you knew...

But I just didn't care about Rick being upset about that his dad was killed. Like, I don't know why, because I felt like it was just had nothing. Like, I don't know why that whole storyline to me. I was like, I just don't think I really care about Rick's dad being killed. To be completely honest and how he's upset about it. I love Chelsea as a character. Yeah. And I, and you know how she talked to Rick and whatever I thought had a lot of meaning behind it and sacks. And then I wanted to see, and this is the other thing that you have to accept.

like as this show is like, you're not going to see the reactions you want to see. Would we have loved to have seen how Saxon reacts to Chelsea's death? Yes. Like did he even know she died? Like we just see them on the boat. We don't even know she died. But I thought Saxon, you know, those moments when he's looking back on Chelsea, just like the facial acting, you know, the more the reactionary rather than like the actual acting. And I mean, how sad that Lachlan died.

It really... And I read this in the article that they did with The Hollywood Reporter. Mike White was like, yeah, people think this season's about incest. It's not. It's really just about a kid who, like, wants to do the things that he thinks his family loves. And one of those things is sex. And so he's talking about sex and whatever. So, like, Lachlan thought...

oh like my brother will like me if I'm you know get sexy with him and like he literally said to his brother like no I just want to put like on the people and then he wants to stay with her and then she's like actually fuck it I don't want to stay anymore yeah so he just like wants to do what his sibling he just wants to be accepted by his siblings and

which actually was just sad because like for a little bit, you know, you thought that maybe he was just a freak, but he's, he really just wants to be accepted. I felt so sad when he was going to die. I was like, Oh my God, this is actually really sad. That was so funny when Piper was saying like, I like I'm superficial, like I can't do it. And the mom was just like, Oh, that was like my favorite part. I was cracking up her. She is just, she was so good. Parker Posey was really so good. But yeah. And Victoria, she's just like,

She takes her to go shopping. Every superficial thing out of her mouth, she was like, oh, amazing. Yeah. It was like, oh, and the food. Oh, yeah, you can't eat that food. No, and she's like, we have to take advantage of it. Yeah. And then takes her shopping, and she's like, if it makes you happy, get it. Like, it's just, that whole thing was so good. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to be desired, but I feel like we all just have to accept that that's what this show is now, because now going into third season, like,

Okay, in the second season, some of the characters come back. So you're like, oh, we get to see some of the characters. So then in the third season, you're like, oh, will we see some of those characters? We just have to accept that once this season's done, we have to say goodbye to these characters. And if they come back, that's great, and we get to see some of those characters again. But it's kind of like we have to wipe our hands clean. I mean, thinking back to the first season, you're like, whatever happened? Did they get divorced? Did they not get divorced? You don't know. You do feel that way with every season, really. You feel that way after every season ends, but then you think...

Somehow it's going to change. It's not. It's kind of the same format every time. You don't get to see those reactions that you want to see. It's within the time limit of the vacation. Right. And it's like, oh, you don't... You don't see them when they go back home. You don't know what's going on when they're not on the vacation. Right. It's not the point of the show. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I think there's a lot to be...

but also some... I know. I'm so torn. Like, it's like... I go back, yeah. I appreciate it a lot and I think it's great and I think the show is so well done, so well written. But at the same time, like, the episode didn't end and I wasn't like, wow, that was amazing. Right, I kind of just went right to bed. Yeah. It's definitely my least favorite of the three. And...

Yeah, I just I feel like I got so attached to these characters. And I think that was another part of it where I'm like, I'm so attached to these characters, but it's not my favorite season. But I want I'd like have a desire to know them more and want to see more of them. But it is about it's a it's a back and forth in the head. It's like accepting the show for what it is and appreciating the writing for it. And then the other part of like, we all always want like,

something more. We all want something juicier or something big, but it is what it is sort of thing. I think there's just a lot of lessons in it. And I think the more you deep dive in it, I think it ages well. I think the white Lotus really ages better than the initial reaction that first night. Definitely. And it goes into when you, what we've been saying all season two, after we watch an episode, it's,

You watch the episode and then what has made the show so great is there was such a discourse about it online, but because there was such a great discourse about it, everyone was like, oh, all these symbols, all these things are adding up. So it wasn't quite that big shock. But at the same time,

you see all that symbolism and it is really cool and it is art and it is very impressive. And even I was watching a TikTok before of some guy breaking it down of just the...

difference between the scene of the kids on the boat on the way there and how they're all sitting versus the kids on the boat on the way back and how they're sitting and when Rick and Chelsea fell into the water that they were literally shaped like

the yin and yang and she had always been saying you know we're like the yin and yang and we connect and just there's so many different things that you're like wow so much goes into it and so much thought goes into it it is really smart yes that makes you appreciate it so much much so much more after you watch it rather than while you're watching exactly like you're not expecting to be like oh my god uh uh something so shocking you know

the Ratliff father took the gun and shot eight people in the hotel. Like it's, you know, it's just, it's not going to, you know, what would have been a bang though? There's really all these lead ups to show you what is going to happen. If he just jumped off the boat when he was looking out on the water, if he just jumped off the boat and ended. Yeah. Like if that, I would be like, Oh shit, that would have been more, that would have been like a woe. But I mean, if you really think about it, it's, it is crazy. And it makes sense. Even though people are like, Oh, nothing. You want to see what happens with them? It's like, no,

His whole story was...

would he literally kill his entire family because they don't have money? Like how important is money to this rich family that he would straight up kill all of them because they could not live without the money that they have. Yeah, and they all said it. They all made it a point. They're like, we can't, I couldn't live without the money. And the one that said he could, he was gonna save him and then he almost actually died. But the one thing I do hate though,

so much is people online that are like well if you didn't think that this was fantastic then this show just isn't for you yeah no people that keep tv shows and act like get it you're just you don't get it you're just not as you're it's not for uh the intellectually challenged like that's literally how people act i'm like okay get off

your fucking high horse because even Mike White himself has said like some things are not the way that people are trying to make them seem like they're really just straight people

They're pretty straightforward. And then there are themes and symbolism that do tie into it. It's not like people have to stop doing the gatekeeping of... No, but there are for sure people... There's a lot of reaches for sure. Of the TV shows of like, whoa, you just don't get it. It's like, okay, well, shut the fuck up because everyone can have an opinion about the show. Everyone's allowed to watch it. It's out there. So I'll give it a B plus because...

I wasn't obsessed with it, but I did like it. Yeah. So I'll give it a B+. Fair. My grade would probably... I'd probably give it a... If I'm going to be true to myself, I'll probably give it a B. That's what I'm giving it a B. Like, it's still... It is really good. I enjoyed the season a lot. I, like, so well done. The acting was fantastic. The writing was fantastic. I think that it just moved... My personal preference is...

to have a little bit more, like a little more fast paced. Even if the finale was just a little more fast paced, I think I would have come around to it. But it was slow. It was slow. It was slow. And I know that it was slow for a big setup at the end. And those last 10 minutes were very gratifying for everybody that wanted, you know, something to happen and have these big moments. But I would have loved that action to have been dragged out a little bit. I agree. Where it's like you really see the in between. It just all happened in the last couple moments and then it was over. Yeah. And then it was over. Um,

which I'm sure was purposeful, but my personal taste would have liked for it to be a little longer. So I'll go with a B for the finale. Chicks in the Office is sponsored by BetterHelp. Let's talk numbers. Traditional in-person therapy can cost anywhere from $100 to $250 per session, which adds up fast. But with BetterHelp Online Therapy, you can save on average up to 50% per session.

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C plus probably in that range too, you know, run. It's nothing too crazy to, to wrap up, uh, to wrap up the season. I started the studio, uh,

I watched the first two episodes. I haven't watched the third one yet. I'm behind on the second half of the... Like, all TV that came out in the second half of the week, behind it because you were traveling. So, like, I haven't... It's like the studio, I haven't watched the pit, I haven't watched... So the studio... But I did watch the first two episodes, so I'll give that...

Honestly, I'll give that an A-. Really good. I really liked it. I really, really liked it. I thought that second episode was so good. The whole one shot. It was really, really great. I'm also behind on Righteous Gemstones because it does come on right after White Lotus. But last night, White Lotus went long. So I'm caught up with last week's Righteous Gemstones, which I will give...

I'll give that an A- too. I thought that was a very funny episode. It was the one with them on the lake when they were trying to break up. I need to catch up on it. Yeah. They were trying to break up their dad and Lori. And I just thought it was very, very funny. Judy was cracking me up. She is so fucking funny. She's the funniest character. But Walton Goggins...

Naked for a lot of this last season. Let me tell you. Hot in the street right now. My God, he is naked. Very naked in this Righteous Gemstones. I watched the Long Island Serial Killer documentary on Netflix. Go, go, beach. Oh my God, I have to watch that. Oh my God, my God. Did they fuck that up so badly? Like he was...

Right under their noses. And they have a bunch of corrupt Suffolk County police and the shit that was going on. You know the picture of him on the train? Yeah.

That's my cousin's picture that he took of him and posted on his Instagram years ago. Crazy. Yeah. That is so crazy. Isn't that insane? It's so crazy because... Like when it was caught... Yeah. It was like, oh my God, I posted a picture of this man on the train. Yeah. And these people really just... I felt so bad for these girls' families because they fought so hard for them to be seen and they just did not get the attention that they deserved because of...

because of their profession and the things that they were doing and because they were sex workers, it felt like they just didn't give them the right amount of attention when it came to trying to find... Like, the fact that one of these women, they knew exactly what her last spot was. They knew exactly where her last location was. And it took them...

18 months or something to finally search the marsh that she was last seen at. And the cops like, ah, you know, the marsh is just, it's tough to get in the marsh. Like it's like, and they're like, what? That's it. They were like, they were like, yeah, the marsh is just like high and wet. And like, we couldn't search it. 18 months. That's insane. You knew exactly that she just like, you knew that that she was last seen literally at the marsh. Um, and there's also these two guys that lived with,

I think they lived with one of the girls and...

They gave the police the exact description of him because he was at their house and she was scared and she called her friends to come back to get the guy to leave. And they came and they, when this all, and when she was murdered, they were like, you know, she had a guy come recently. We, we had to get him out. We did not. It was a bad, like a bad situation. Full description of the guy, everything. It was, it was him.

And it was like 10 years before they gave the description 10 years before. I gotta watch that. I thought it was really well done. I will give that a B+. I was pretty locked into that. And then I watched The Life List on Netflix, which is a new Sophia Carson movie, which, by the way, she is like Netflix...

Romance, really her niche. She crushes it. This movie was really sweet. I cried. I like, oh my God, it got me. Connie Britton as her mom. It was so good. If you haven't seen it, really the premise is, you know, it's a young girl. Mom gets sick, sadly passes, but she finds a...

bucket list that young you know Sophia's character had written when she was like 13 and was like I need you to do all of these things basically and you know made video messages for each thing is really really sweet um obviously a romance really great I don't know too much about Kyle Allen but my god will I deep dive into whoever the next Netflix romance give me a new guy that's how I found uh

Nicholas Gautzen was the first one I watched Purple Hearts and I was like oh also a Sophia Carson movie and

He's absolutely adorable. And now he's coming on my TikTok all the time. He's a dancer. Ballet. He's doing all these ballet moves. He's very impressive. He's in West Side Story as well. But really sweet movie. I really liked it a lot. Very heartwarming. I was like trying not to cry, but it still got me where I was like, oh, my God. Very sweet. I'll give it. Honestly, I really liked it.

B plus? I was on the edge of my seat then. Between an A minus and a B plus, but I think I'll go B plus. And that's everything I watched. I finished Running Point, the season one. It was fun. Yeah, it's a fun ride. It's a fun watch. It's super corny, obviously. It's cute. It's easy. I enjoyed it. I'll give it a B minus the rest of the season. Celtics, episode five, give that an A. It's like when Larry Bird's winning, so it's pretty awesome.

So obviously, pretty sick. The studio episode three, that's just like, I think it's going to be an A all season long, maybe an A plus. Wow, wow. It's an A right now. Just like the cameos and seeing these actual directors, and there's another director in this episode, their acting is so good. I mean, seeing Scorsese in the other one is crazy. Scorsese was so good. Yeah, yeah.

I'm actually shocked at... It's like the Entourage thing where you're playing yourself, but a different version of yourself. So yeah, it's an A. I went to the movie theater yesterday and saw Black Bag, the Michael Fassbender movie. Very good. Very good. And it's quick. It's like an hour and a half movie.

Solid. I'll give that an A-. Wow. I don't even know what this movie is. I'm not going to lie. It's Keith Blanchett, Michael Fassbender. There's a ton of actors in it. I love Michael Fassbender. Yeah. He's always great. That's a solid grade. And it's kind of like, I don't know how you would describe it. It has a 96% rating. Yeah.

It's like, yeah, it's a thriller, but it's kind of, I guess they're spies. I'm not really sure you would call them. When his beloved wife, wife Catherine is suspected of betraying the nation, intelligence agent George Woodhouse faces the ultimate test, loyalty to his marriage or his country. Yeah. And what's his face from a Bridgerton is in it. People are always saying he's not doing it. He's in it. Pierce Brosnan. It's a good cast.

So yeah, I'll give that an A minus. And then The White Lotus, yeah, I'll give it a B. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely my least favorite out of the three. But if I'm just judging it on I'm watching this one season, never saw the other ones, it's still a solid show. Very solid. Yeah, totally. I think season one might be my favorite, honestly. The more I think about it.

I loved season one. I don't know, something about season two, maybe it's just because it was in Italy. Right. I think that plays a big factor. And I mean, Theo James. Yeah, yeah. I feel like every time I think about season two, I'm like, but Theo James and Aubrey Plaza were in it. Yeah. I prefer the seasons to be self-contained. I don't need callbacks and crossovers of characters. I'd rather just be like, this is a completely new season. Right. Like, oh, we're not talking about Jennifer Coolidge. I just want completely fresh light. Well, because it is interesting because it's like,

You don't get every story continuation. It's obviously just what Mike White wants to continue. So that...

But I feel like people love Jennifer Rose so much that it was like, you have to. 100%. It's like a fan, I don't know if it's fan reaction, or honestly, I think it's how much he loves the character. Mike White said he loved that character so much that he wanted to keep it going, you know? So it's like, oh, there is a little bit of a frustration where some characters you know you're never going to hear from them again, but, you know, Greg's storyline has continued through it all.

You said this in a text, like if they made an all-star season, that'd be so cool. That would have been like the best characters from each season. Yeah, that would, I mean, that would be amazing if they did that. I would be into that. I could see that. It's like they invite them back. They're like, hey, we know that you had problems with your last day. There were murders. Like we want to invite you out to this hotel. Or they don't even address it. They just all end up having to go to another, I don't know. Yeah. No, but very, you know, solid. Yeah, for sure. All right. That wraps up everything we watched.

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