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What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday.

Happy Friday, everybody. Hopefully, if you're listening to this, maybe you're headed into a long weekend. Maybe you're off from work on Monday. Summer's here. Summer is here. MDW. Yes, maybe in the state that you're in, the sunshine is loud and clear. Yeah, yeah. Where we are, not so present. Not so much. But that's all right. We're going to bring the sunshine ourselves to Memorial Day weekend.

Any fun plans for the group? Regardless, summer is still here. It is. You know, despite it being...

and rainy and gross. For sure. But we're going to ignore that. It'll jump back up. Yeah. Weekend's happening. I just get excited, you know, talking about the plans. It's like, ah, time to get on the train, head out of the city. Right. The whole thing, the whole thing. So I'm very excited, very excited. So that's your plan for the weekend? That's my plan, yeah, yeah. Very nice. Nella, how about you? We'll be out on Long Island. Yeah, I'll be going to the Cape. It's Cape season. Hey-o. Watch out. Hey-o.

I have a couple more concerts to go to before I go to the cave. Nice. What's the Squire? Squire.

Squire, that's like the big spot. You should hit it up. You've been going to concerts all week long. You have more? Yeah, four out of five days this week. I'm going tonight and tomorrow. Holy shit. Same band every time. Oh my God, you are dedicated. Are you going to see Tedeschi Truck every single night that they're here? Not every night. I couldn't go on Saturday because I had a bachelor party, and then they're playing this Saturday, so it was six total. I'm four out of the six. Four out of the six. Sir, you may have a problem. What's up? Yeah, yeah. Do you enjoy every night this...

The same? Or do they change it up? Yeah, do you rank them? Where do you stand? Well, no, that's the beauty of it. It's a different set every time. So this past show, I enjoyed so much more than the first night. Oh! Yeah, different songs, different...

vantage points from me right right right you get to see it from all angles right every viewpoint tomorrow I'm like in the fourth row so wow oh fun is that the closest yeah uh where are they playing the beacon they always do like a big run at the beacon um

Yeah. Very nice. I did go backstage the first night, which was... And you didn't talk about it on Wednesday. No, you kept it to yourself. Like, you were being humble. It was like a whole big thing. Not even humble, but yeah, it was a very cool thing to do. It was strange for me. I was alone. Big shout out to... Big shout out to Kyla, who, if you were at our Boston holiday show, you know her as one of the...

The girl in the dancing couple. Yes. Yeah, her cousin is the trombone player in the band and got to meet her and thank her afterwards. That's amazing. Yeah. I felt so talentless back there. I was talking to other people and I'm like, oh, they're all musicians. I'm like... Yeah. Yeah. You have talent. No, yeah, no. You know, you're...

A fan of the set. It's like the beginning of Noah's Almost Famous story. It's like it all started when I went backstage. Backstage at Tedeschi Truck. No, you are very talented. Thanks, thanks. You're a very talented producer, editor, you know? I was talented at Chick-fil-A. Did you have strength? So there was only like, so Derek Trucks, he was the only other real, there were a couple other band members, but he was the only other main guy who was back there. And I thought about it.

Going up to him. There were a couple chances. He was just like hanging out, like talking to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I remember I did meet him in Dallas at our hotel. Yes. So I didn't feel like I needed to say anything to him. I didn't want to be that guy. Right, right. And then he would have been like. You already had your meet cute. Because I was, I think, the only one who wasn't like directly like family or friends with people in the band. So he would have been like, oh. Who the hell are you? It's like, well, yeah, so you're a trombone player's cousin. Yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing. Chicks the office, podcast, like. Yeah, yeah. I didn't want to bother him. Oh.

Is that his real last name? Derek Trucks. Yeah. That's sick. Susan Tedeschi. Yeah. Wow. They were sitting courtside at the Knicks game last night. I don't know if you saw that. Oh, I didn't see. Damn. I didn't see. What a big week. What a tough one that was. Oh, gosh. I know, huh? Holy. Holy. Wow. Basketball. I couldn't believe my eyes. I was just watching from my couch. That was awful. Tough. And I've been laughing because they're renaming –

Streets in the city for players So we've just really been laughing Like talking about Joe and I Like oh we basically live on you know this street now Like it's like you know McHale Bridges block And like PJ Tucker alley It's like don't you do that after you win Like the finals Because last night was no good I mean wowza Wowza I couldn't believe it Statistically it's like never happened before

Literally never happen Is there another game tonight? The Western Finals They play again Friday Just making sure because we said last night Friday yes It is fun to watch Knicks fans like

have the heart ripped out of their chest. No, it's not. Well, I disagree with that completely. I'm New York, so I'm not. Our sweet, sweet husbands. Yeah, like what? Yeah. You're a Celtics fan, so maybe for you, but not for us. He thought he was going to say that and we were going to be like, yeah, I'm literally from New York. But you seem more of like a Nets fan to me. I don't know why. A Nets fan? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know why. That would be so random. That would be so random. I've actually been to a Nets game. Yeah. But you're Mets, so I feel like it's Mets, Jets, Nets. No, it's not. No.

I don't really know any. It's actually not. I gotta be honest, I actually don't even really know any Nets fans. Not anymore, now that they're in Brooklyn. No, the way they say it is like Mets, Jets, Islanders, Yankees, Giants. Right, they never really throw basketball at that. And also, the orange and the blue, Knicks, Mets. Yeah. Islanders. So you don't even have to switch your colors, really. Yeah. We went to some Nets games growing up, well, because they were in Jersey, when they were in Jersey. But...

Yeah, I mean, look, half of my family, like, obviously, we're Sixers fans. They're so, like, they were so trash that it's just, like, it is what it is. And many of my family members just hate all New York teams in general, so they won't root for the Knicks. But, you know, I got to think of my other half. I got to think of my sweet Joe who wants the Knicks to win. Of course. So I will root for the Knicks. You see Larry David? That was funny. Yeah, I did. There was, like, multiple times, like, a...

There's multiple times that I noticed if like there's a turnover or something. One, you know, he sits cross-legged and he just would go like this.

Like, he just would go, ugh. Like, disgusted. Remember the episode of Curb where he's sitting courtside and he has his legs out in Trip Shack? Oh my god, yes. Well, you know, really, it's, where was Kylie Jenner? Maybe that wouldn't have happened. Right, I know. Maybe Kylie needs to get back to the games. She's gotta get back. That's true. That's very, very true. Yeah, I mean, Timothy can only do so much. He did team up with Ben Stiller last night. Right. John Hamm. Dynamic duo. John Hamm, yeah. I was laughing, too, because there was one also out-of-bounds...

that the guy in the Pacers was trying to be like, he touched the ball before he could, he was trying to save it. It's because Jon Hamm caught the ball and reached and caught it before. I think it might have been Halliburton trying to swat it back in bounds. Yeah.

that's smart fandom from Jon Hamm right there at the end of the game when the ball like went off Brunson and you just they play the replay and Timothee Chalamet is like in the ref's face like calling a timeout I think he was trying to say tee him up I love how he said tee him up I don't know what he was trying to say but yeah he's locked in and um I couldn't believe it that was insane absolutely insane so yeah that was that was wild um

So some more exciting basketball this weekend. I got no plans. Zero. That's so nice. Zero plans, which is really nice. Well, it's nice when it's going to be so cold and great. You're not missing out. It's going to be a great...

Lazy long weekend. Yes. I'm very excited. You know, yeah, I gotta switch over my My closet. Mmm. I haven't done that yet. Got us. Well, I'm in a friggin sweater. Well, it is cold. It's cold Good thing you didn't switch it yet. I know I needed this sweater today, but it's time to bring the summer stuff out from there I got a break out the closet full spring cleaning for sure. Yeah I got my ears pierced a little follow-up. We talked about this on Wednesday's episode was thinking about getting my ears pierced for a while and

Didn't want to do it before a wedding, honeymoon. You got to be careful with your piercings, whatever. So now I have them and they're cute and I love them. Yep, they're adorable. And they don't hurt at all, by the way. I was going to say, how do you feel? Do you feel all right? Completely fine. It didn't hurt getting them pierced. It doesn't hurt now. At all? Not at all. When it went through the ear? Truly, barely felt it. No, I feel like we went to a good place. Girls were asking me, we went to Maria Tosh in the city and-

But it's I mean, it feels fine. Yeah. And yeah, I'm happy about it. Yeah. They're cute and they're fun and they're sparkly. I put I put a new earring into my. Well, I went and I asked the guy because I never really wear an earring in my second piercing. And I was like, this thing's still this thing's still there. And he gave it a little test. He said, yes. How long have you? I was gonna say mine's a little sore. I'm not gonna lie. Oh, really? Yeah.

Maybe because it's just stretching it back up. I'm tender, though. Like, I, like, I have sensitive ears. I have sensitive ears, too, but they... Don't you have to keep something in there? Otherwise, it'll close up. I mean, after, like... After a while, it still stays there.

Yeah, after like months. I mean, every couple months I would maybe put an earring in there for like a night out and then it would bother me so I'd take it out. I just kept it. It's still there so now I have this one locked in. Yeah. Cute though. Glad I did it. Yes. Very cute. And you know, they say like, oh, you can't swim, da-da-da-da-da. And the guy there was like, yeah, like, don't, you know, within the first month. So I have no plans to swim in the next month so I'm, you know, good about that. No, water is...

not even close to being the temperature I needed to go in. And then after that, he's like, if you do, just clean it after. He's like, I've swam with all my tears. Wouldn't salt water be good? I thought that, but there's a lot of bacteria in the ocean. Yeah. So, and then pools and jacuzzi. And he said, just never, ever go under in a jacuzzi. Yeah, no fresh water too. Bad, bad, bad. And I was like, you know what? Yeah. I can see that being. Like ever again? No, like. No, but. For a while. Yeah.

Which I don't have any plans to go on. You know, a lot of people really live by the rule that you shouldn't dunk your head in a jacuzzi anyway. I gotta say, like, I can't remember the last time I dunked my head in a jacuzzi. Actually, when I was really drunk at my bachelor party, but that's it. That was just so, that was, that doesn't count. It's filled with chlorine, so it should be fine. No, jacuzzis are like a breeding ground. Jacuzzis are like, you can get all sorts of things in jacuzzis. All sorts of things. The warm water, you know, keeps the bacteria going. I feel like we're breaking Noah's heart right now talking about jacuzzis.

I guess no one's dug in his head in jacuzzis often, clearly. Clearly. I have. He's swallowing the water. He's swishing it around in his mouth. No, I just like, I don't see, like chlorine should be

taking care of that, I thought. Pools. No, I mean, corn doesn't kill everything. But jacuzzi is like hot and like, you know, the whole thing. I don't know the science behind it. I just know it's no good. I'm actually really excited because I mentioned how I'm going back to London in July and, you know, I've been there, this will be the fourth time. So we were like, ooh, what other things can we do? And I have yet to see a show in the West End and now I'm seeing two. So,

my best friend that we're going with, she's obsessed with Matilda. Yeah. And every time I'm there, I pass the theater that's playing Matilda and I was like, Ooh, let's go see Matilda. And she was like, yeah. So we're doing like a Sunday 2 p.m. show then going to have a Sunday, a Sunday roast center after. But we're going to be there a day or two earlier than them. And we were like,

devil wears Prada music by Elton John felt like a must do I think it got really bad I know I saw that and so I said I have to go see it for my own eyes I did honestly makes me want to see it even more almost that's what happened so I looked it up on TikTok I typed in devil wears Prada and oh my god it was getting ripped apart and we were like okay we kind of have

to go see it because we need to see it for our own eyes if it's terrible it'll still be funny you know like if it's bad it's still good so and you may be one you know it's it probably won't last long so like it probably won't be have a long run right i gotta see because it's not doing well right and i i want to be one of the ones who saw it and got to got to talk about it but uh so i'm excited for that so any other plans in london no we have we have a reservation for um

a restaurant, Gymkhana. I don't know if you've heard of it. It's like the top Indian restaurant. And they opened a spot in New York, right? Did they, Gymkhana? Or I don't know. No, Dishoom is thinking about opening some spots in New York in 2026. But Gymkhana is like Michelin star. Yeah.

Like top, top, top. And it's so, so hard to get a reservation there. Like really, really hard. And there was one spot open in the entire weekend that we're going on a Monday. And I was like, boom. We got a bucket. I don't care what time it's at. Last time we were there, we were supposed to go. And that's when Matt got sick. And we were like, okay, well, we can't go to a nice dinner when he has food poisoning or whatever it was. Or the stomach virus, whatever it was. So excited for that. But now we're just...

since we've been there now a couple times it's like really nice to just go and be like we're like locals you know we'll just see how the day takes us did you ever go to Shortage

Shoreditch? So actually that's one. I haven't spent much time in Shoreditch, which is a goal for the next time. That's a good going out area too. Yes. I've seen and heard great things. So that was a, we talked about that. One of the goals to spend more time there. Yeah. But I was excited about the plays because I actually haven't seen a show in a while. Like I haven't even been to a Broadway show, Broadway in what feels like years. Probably the last time I was there was the Jonas Brothers.

Right. So, which, you know, not a year. Right. So not even an actual nights only. When you texted me, like, have you been to a play in London? My first thought was that you were going to add that to the list. Oh, I can't. Well, you haven't about you. I have. Not everything is. No, honestly, though, I've been getting things from other people to I told them about it.

Yeah, I only have added a couple more things. People are joking like the list is going to be like, take Olive for a walk, clean the apartment. There is only... Baby sit Olive for one whole weekend. Honestly, I would love that. There is only one thing on there as of now that is like, has nothing to do with you and like everything to do with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's, you'll be fine with it. It's funny. So yeah, we're still working on that. Send ideas if you...

If you have ideas or listeners. Yeah, we're taking suggestions. We are taking suggestions and I did see a couple good ones in my messages already. So we are taking suggestions. So send them. And my mom didn't think I was on the Forbes 30 under 30 list. That's so sweet. She called me. She's like, you're on the list? I'm like, what list? Like the 30 list. I'm like, no. It's just. And she was probably fired up. She thought you got in there right in the nick of time. She told my sister. My sister was like, you think he's on the list? No one fucking knows him. Oh.

Okay, well, also, the Forbes 30 Under 30 is not only famous people. No, I know. It's people who excel in their profession. And you excel in your profession, so you could have been on there, Noah. You do. They reached out to me last year. Don't get bullied. Don't let your sister bully you. I thought that I had – they reached out. I forgot about that. And I was like, oh, do I have a shot? And they reached out multiple times because we were ignoring it at first because we didn't think it was real. And then we looked deeper into it.

And then when the list got revealed, I was like, oh, I guess I didn't make it. Hey, you still got time. Yeah, but you would have had like you. You never. Did you ever email them back? Yeah, I did. I ended up filling out the form and everything. But yeah, I didn't make it. But that's OK. Just being just them reaching out. You're on like. Guess what? You still have time. I guess I'm saying like maybe they have you like. Yeah. You and I were toast. I have two more. When does the next one come out?

I think it's always at the beginning of the, because this one came out at the beginning of the year. So I have, no, we're done. We're, it's all, it's,

It'll never happen for us. I'm about 40 under 40. I have two more times. Yeah. Because I'm turning 28 in July and then 29. So I got some time. You got some time. We'll see. We got to crank this podcast up. All right. Let's get into the rest of the show. We're going to be talking about some topics. I mean, we got to talk about Chris Hughes and Jojo Siwa. I think that they hard launched. Relationship debut, I think. I think they hard launched. Alex Earle is joining the cast of Dancing with the Stars. Fired up. Scott.

Scooter Braun apparently is encouraging the label to sell her recordings. It's like a private equity firm or something. I don't know what it is. It's something that they own all her recordings. Encouraging them to sell Taylor's music back to Taylor for anywhere between $600 billion to $1 billion. Whatever. We're going to do a full reality TV. Don't forget about Hunger Games. Oh, yeah.

Yes, we're going to be talking about the cast of Hunger Games. Stacked cast. Exciting cast. And we have a full reality TV recap with Roan. We're going to be talking about Bravo. We're going to be talking about Mormon Wives. We're going to be talking about it all because Roan loves reality TV and so do we. So we're going to talk about it together. And we have a great game of trivia. So let's get into it.

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All right, we're going to get into some fun reality TV recaps with Roan, who is now our resident Bravo person here. Yeah. How does that feel? It's like one of the best ways that my wife and I bond. Like, I just get on board with whatever show she's watching, like any Bravo show she's putting on. Not only am I going to watch, I'm going to be invested. And you're dissecting it. When you came on back in September, October, and we did a whole Bravo rundown for like hours,

Our listeners were like, oh my gosh, we had no idea Rowan was this invested. We need more of his thoughts about the show. So now we're here. We're going to talk all about it. I break it down like it's sports, honestly. I watch it just like the same fervor that I watch like the Eagles or the Sixers. I'm intently watching Summer House. I'm intently watching these... Play by play. Yeah. I mean, I'm obsessed with the replays and I'll kind of test out my takes on my wife and

Do you guys usually agree or disagree? Sometimes she'll give me the benefit of the doubt. She'll be like, wow, that was a good point. And she might be like patting me on the head. But sometimes she'll have to kind of hold my hand and explain what's going on. Yeah, kind of reel you in a little bit. Sometimes I have the same reaction when Marty's watching and he says something. I'm like, I didn't even think of that. Sometimes you get the guy's point of view watching a reality show and you're like, huh.

That kind of flew over my head. Yeah, it's interesting because I think I look at it from the guys' point of view, like from the guys on the show, and I'm curious about them. And I think that Bravo is inherently a little bit more woman-centric. It's for a female audience for the most part, but half these shows are guys. And I think a lot of it is framed through the female gaze. And I think sometimes...

will get an unfair shake, but sometimes we're not hard enough on the guy. Yeah, that is very true. Which brings us to Jesse Solomon. Yeah, so we'll get right into Summer House, the Summer House finale. Also, now you are, we do have to acknowledge dad of twins. Yes. It's been since the last time you were on. You were coming from the perspective of a not a father. Now you are a father which changes things.

Yeah, it changes things. It does change things. How do you want to raise your boys? Yeah. And it's like, who is the archetype Bravo character that I could point at to my sons and be like, I want you to grow up with him. And I don't think it's anyone at Summer House. No, it's honestly maybe across any of the shows.

And that's why it was like, I think for a long time, it was like Craig was like, the guy, when you look at all of the Bravo world, he was like the kind of guy who was the least messy, embarrassed himself the least, had the fewest personality traits that you wouldn't want to pass on. But I look at, and I'll ask you guys this, who in the Bravo, or specifically Summer House, who is the guy that you root for the most? Who is the guy that you're like, okay, I can root for him? Oh, God. I mean... I mean, I think...

I'm rooting for Carl. I guess right now. Right now, like, I'm rooting for Carl. Right, you're rooting for Carl. You're opening a new business. Yes, and he's been through a lot of hard things. Early, messy Carl, you don't root for that. No, but current... But some of the stuff he's gone through with his life and, you know, the loss of his brother and, you know, becoming sober and the new business mentor and all that, you're rooting for him right now. Yeah. I want to say...

I am usually never rooting for Kyle. This season, he was a little bit better, although it just doesn't make sense to me. And we're seeing a little clip. We got a preview for the reunion that he's talking about wanting to, you know, have kids and whatever. But he's also out DJing every night. And Amanda's like, I want to have kids with somebody who's ready to have kids with me. I don't.

I think Kyle wants to have a family but doesn't realize he's going to have to not go out every single night and not be DJing until four in the morning to raise his kids. So maybe I'm rooting for Kyle to change. Yeah. I don't know. They're going to hit a point, I think, where either Amanda is just like, all right, we're just going to do this or not because Kyle is just a workaholic. So Amanda is like, you're still working so much. Yeah.

And that's discouraging her from wanting to start a family. But he's like, I have to work. Is it work or party though? Right. Because there's a lot of dads work a lot. A lot of moms work a lot. If you were to ask him,

He's working. But I think that he's also... If you were to ask him, he's been paid for these DJ appearances, so he's working. He's got to bring home the bacon. Yeah. But you look at him coming home with Wes at like four in the morning. It's almost like you have to shift your timeline. He's like...

around 40 now he's over 40 yeah like so you kind of have to shift your timeline like i'm it's absurd i'm a dad now i've had to shift my timeline like i'm a morning person now like i just had to change all of that and i think that if they do want to have kids and i don't know if he's just getting baby fever because lindsey's yeah pregnant you know but it almost seems like the inverse of uh

Craig and Paige. - Paige, yeah. - Like Paige is like, "I wanna work." Paige is like, "I wanna be on tour. "I wanna bust my ass." - Yep, yep. - But do you think that, and this might be spicy, but do you think that there's any element of Paige with her relationship with Craig that like if she wanted to, she would?

Yes, I think it just wasn't the right person. And I think in this episode, in the finale, I think it was more open about that where she said when Craig asked her during Thanksgiving, like, oh, do you picture us hosting holidays together? And she was like, yeah. And then she was like, I thought about for a second was like, actually, no, I don't picture us, you know, having holidays together with our kids or whatever. And I want him to find the love of his life.

as much as I want to find the love of my life and like, it's just not him. And I think that is... The biggest tell was her dad too. She said that her dad called her after the breakup and was like, you're... I didn't even feel like realize it, but like, you're back to being you. Right. You got your personality back. You have your personality back. Yeah, which is... I think it was... I mean, which is very telling. I think maybe Paige thought she was a little sad

Yeah. In that relationship of like, what's going to happen if like we're this Bravo power couple, what's going to happen if we break up or like all these things. And then she just kind of had to do it. And it, and obviously it was the right move. Because it's also like, you know, Paige is skyrocketing in her career. Like absolutely crushing in every aspect. Like it's amazing to watch. I love watching both Paige and Hannah. So it's, I also think it's the right person won't make Paige feel bad about how successful she is. The right person is going to be like,

you could do it all. You can work all day, all night. You can be a mother at the same time. Like you can conquer it all. Whereas Craig was kind of like, you got to peel it back to do those things. So I also think that Craig is so beloved by so many people that she was probably apprehensive because she sees other people in the Bravo world get villainized when they break off of a big relationship. But I'm just happy to hear you guys say that like it's, or even to hear her, I haven't, haven't heard it yet, but that, that,

she just says that this isn't the person for me as opposed to being like, I had a tour. Like you guys do podcasting. You guys have tours. You guys are able to have marriages. It's not like those aren't mutually exclusive things. It's more like being honest and be like, Hey, it's just not you and me. Absolutely. I think sometimes people try to find the right thing to say publicly where it's like, Oh, you try to leave it to an excuse or whatever. But at the end of the day, it's just like, now that just wasn't your person. And that's,

That's it. Just wasn't the right people for each other, which is why I think they're way better off, clearly, at this point. It's not a coincidence that she started, and she said this too, it's not a coincidence that she said she started having legit panic attacks before going on stage on tour. And she was like, I wasn't nervous for the shows. It was just like other things in her life. I think it was just all creeping in all at once and it was manifesting in other areas of her life. So it was definitely for the best. It was also really interesting because she said that

when they had met up again in New York to talk about the breaking up and she said that Craig said something to her along the lines of like, I wish you saw the ring before you did this or something. So he's claiming that he's had this ring for a year, over a year, whatever.

Kyle and Lindsey were on Watch What Happens Live after the episode. Both of them were like, I don't think he ever bought a ring. I think he's lying. And Andy was like, well, at the Southern Charm reunion, he said he returned the ring. And Lindsey was like, oh, convenient timing. No one's ever seen the ring. He returned the ring. And he was like, and Kyle and Lindsey were just like, you know, he...

We know Craig. He like he he didn't send that picture to anybody. He didn't show anyone. No one's in the ring. Her friends, her mom. No one's done and whatever. So I don't know. That's like a whole nother wrinkle in this. I was like, maybe I don't know. It brings up a good point because like you think about anybody like Craig does say he bought a ring. If you buy a ring when you bought your wife's ring, you probably showed her friends or her mom or somebody, you know, like.

You got to get some intel, no? Also, sometimes you don't. I mean, Joe didn't. I knew what she, so she like sent me a picture of a ring that she wanted and I like looked it up and it was like $80,000. I was like, that does look nice. But then I eventually bought a ring that was like very similar, great, beautiful ring. But that I like, I literally like hid the box in my apartment and like didn't show anybody. So maybe. Maybe, but you say Joe didn't tell anybody. He at least told your mom.

No, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, I asked for permission from her dad and everything. So that's what I'm saying. The ring was my grandmother, so he did have to get it from her. Yes, exactly. So you say nobody, but there was somebody. For sure, for sure. There is always somebody that knows. For sure. Whereas for Craig, it's like...

nobody right did he show he didn't show anybody in her family right like her parents i don't know i don't know who we know page is very very close yeah so it is you know well what would be the benefit of him saying that him said him trying to prove that how serious he was about it i don't think it proves anything though because i think it's just like almost like a it's i was so in it yeah but it's also like almost saying like i wish you didn't say that before you saw the ring like as if

a ring is going to change whether or not someone wants to be with you. You know what I mean? Like that shouldn't... I don't think that was... A little bit of a guilt trip maybe too. Yeah, like I don't think that would change whether or not Paige wants to marry him over a ring. Or it'd be crazy if it did. It would like to be... It would show that her love for him isn't about who he is. It's about what he can give her. Right, which is not what he should want. So better off... No, they definitely are. I think it just wasn't meant to be, which is fine. It did feel like they...

Lindsay and Kyle were harsh about him for sure. They were. And then Andy mentioned on Watch What Happens Live that he believes there's a big feud between Summer House and Southern Tar. Well, didn't everybody unfollow everybody? Yeah. Yeah. There was a mass unfollowing, I believe. I think Craig unfollowed everybody. And then I think there was retaliation.

They didn't unfollow JT, did they? Not my boy. Not my legend JT. And I know Kyle did say, he's like, look, I still talk, I talk to Shep, I talk to Austin. So it's that, but he...

Said that he did reach out to Craig after the breakup. Send him a nice text of hope you're okay, whatever. And he did not respond. The line has been drawn. Also, I don't really blame Craig for that. I will say I'm kind of on Craig's side for that because Kyle said so much to say about Craig.

And he was like so hungry for their like confrontation this time. He was like, we're going to do it right now. He always wanted them to kind of argue and he came for him for all the friggin, you know, Spritz stuff and everything that he was doing. And it was just like...

We're not friends right now. Kyle sending that text message is just to make himself feel better. Yeah, that's true. I'd be like, I'm not fucking answering this. Boom, check that off the list. Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, thanks so much. You've been so great to me recently. Now you want to... And sometimes you're kind of like... You're pissed off anyway. Kyle's like, I'm here if you need me. And Craig's like, what?

Yeah. We're not friends. I wouldn't need you. I have my own friends. Yeah, right. Also, as I watch the season, like you kind of see Paige having these hushed conversations in like the bedroom, like about the situation. So if he feels like he's the last one to find out about his own relationship, he's going to have an inherent mistrust of

of everybody that's around. So it's like, he's going to be like, you guys aren't my friends. Like, you weren't coming to me or telling me this. Like, this was all being, like, orchestrated and I was the last one to know. He probably feels a little bit weird seeing that. Yeah. Although I think he might have been told many times and it just wasn't through. Oh, really? Yeah, those both conversations. I think there was definitely conversations, but you never know. Yeah, I mean, from the standpoint of, like, everyone in the summer house, it seems, felt that things were off. I don't know if he fully realized that. I think he, you know, sometimes, I think Craig just...

He was in love and he didn't... Yeah. He wanted to not, you know... For sure. He was looking at it with rose-colored glasses. Totally. Like, he didn't want to open his eyes. He had the blinders on for that future with Paige. For sure. And he was gonna... He really wanted it. So it is sad because he did... He absolutely really, really wanted it. Yeah, but I think they can... But, yes, for the best. Tie a bow on that and that chapter has ended. It seems like with the reunion... Yeah. It seems like they're not harping on it anymore because...

I feel like people are over it. Right. Or they're kind of like, whatever. Yeah, I think so too. Whereas now we're onto the Jesse and Lexi thing, which I would love your perspective on this because I feel like Jesse, obviously we talked about this, like huge fuck boy, you know, he really like didn't, he, it's like he, he,

acted like he wanted a relationship, but it's very clear he doesn't want a relationship. - If you're grinding with Sierra on camera, like you're just like so ostentatiously being a fuck boy, as you said so eloquently, then like you don't want a relationship. Like you just wanna be like the man and like show your back teeth while you're smiling. - I actually love how I'm giving a face right now. It's like actually how he, yeah. - Mouth open. - Always, always.

Yeah. He's getting killed right now online. And you could tell that it kind of gets to him. And then he kind of like flips into like this like sad boy act that I kind of feel like West has had this entire season. Like he kind of got like the back of his hand smacked at the last reunion. And he's kind of trying to rehab his image through like just being like, I don't know what to do. Like all sad. And I think they're both kind of do, especially at that dinner. He's just like,

well, like if you guys are all going to gang up on me, like I just, I don't think that doesn't make you more likable. I don't think I does. It's not like a winning strategy. Um, but I think that he's so tethered. Jesse seems so tethered to his image of himself and how he thinks he looks that he's not willing to let,

everybody else like be like hey this is how you're coming off like whether you like it or not he's like no like I wasn't even on the watch what happens live he's like no I'd have to rewatch it because I don't think I was coming off that way it's like no you were coming off poorly like you didn't care about the person that you were in the relationship with and it's filmed from 12 angles yeah very very true it's

It is clear. It's like extreme on both sides. Like, Jesse acts poorly and reacts poorly. And then sometimes I'm like listening to Lexi and I'm like, Lexi's scolding him in such a way that I'm like...

Okay. She's not making it easy either. And Paige kind of said it in this last episode too. Paige was like talking to Jesse. She's like, you didn't sleep with somebody else. You didn't like do these things. You got his toe sucked. It was like, it was, you know, whatever the hell. Why did you have to do that? And obviously Lexi is convinced more happened and that's fine. When you're...

When you have that mindset, you're like, he's lying. You're going to be stuck in that. And I think there's just a bunch of things that rubbed her the wrong way, which is totally fine. But she has made like blanket generalizations. You're a liar. You're this. You're that. You know, all these things. And she clearly feels that way.

And that's fine. And I think she also really thinks that he caused this separation between her and the other girls, which I don't really think he fully did. Like, I'm so... But, and I think Lexi has brought up Ciara way more than necessary. I think she tries to make it sound like she wasn't jealous of their friendship, but she absolutely was. Yeah, I agree with that. And I also, when Jesse was on our show... And for good reason, watching it back, watching the way Jesse acted with Ciara. Oh my God!

I mean, he's grinding on her. He's throwing himself on her. But at the same time, I know that's mostly on Jessie. But Ciara didn't have any respect for their relationship? Ciara doesn't have to. Ciara has no loyalty to Lexi. They don't even really know each other. I think Ciara and Jessie have always had that flirty banter friendship. So...

What is it like see it was it Sierra's gonna say oh you shouldn't do that I mean she could be like hey you got a girlfriend right? Yeah The thing with Jesse when he was here, and I wish I would have said this to him But I thought it after when I was watching in the clips back was that I asked him if he was ready for a relationship or wanted a relationship and he had said like yes and

which kind of I was surprised by because I really don't think he is ready for a relationship. And he said that something about how he would need it to be with someone who's a very secure person. And I think he's kind of mixing up being a secure person and just like actual boundaries in a relationship because you can be the most secure woman in the world,

that doesn't mean you're going to want your boyfriend or husband to be acting the way he does. Like, you know, it's about respect rather than being a secure person. So I didn't like how he kind of knocked that down to just being somebody being insecure. Lexi did talk about her insecurities on the show. So that is true.

you know, that is something she struggles with. But not every girl out there is going to be just because they're insecure, they're getting mad at you. No, they just have respect. He gave like a signal to her that like, hey, I want to be in a relationship. If he just like kind of like played hard to get. She said he wanted to hang out like all the time during the week, like was like all trying to see her like as much as possible. I saw Lexi's family out at the club on Saturday. Her family's at the club?

clothes. This is part of the thing on the show and then I saw it in real life. He was going to get 9pm manicures to avoid hanging out with her family. But he just walked into the manicure place though. He didn't have an appointment. What was the thing with her? She dated Drake or something? Didn't he say that? He mentioned it on our show.

Yeah, just like that. He mentioned it on our show and then it was brought up to Lexi on Watch What Happens Live and then she like drank to avoid the question or something. Yeah, she kind of did like a Plead the Fifth which makes me think that there was something with Drake at some point. Yeah. Juicy. Yeah, that is juicy. But yeah, this has gone on now because they're doing press which makes sense. They're doing press for a reality show so they're going to talk about it. But sometimes, I mentioned this on the show on Wednesday, I think that like

Sometimes I think there's this like Scandaval level of scrutiny towards cast members a lot of times now that like doesn't deserve to get to that level. Oh yeah, they're saying he's East Coast Scandaval. We can call out shitty behavior and like he clearly wasn't ready for a relationship. He didn't cheat on his wife. Yeah, and with her best friend.

So it's like there's levels to it. And I think people take it to this like extreme level. Has he helped himself with his interviews? Absolutely not. I mean, people are seeing a side of him that they do not like. But I also think that those characters are.

are necessary in a Bravo show to make it interesting. 100%. I think everybody's like, let's get a girl spinoff just in the city. It's like, well, those girls are all friends with each other. They like each other. There'd be no drama. It'd be like kumbaya. That's not the shows that do well. We want to see the fuck shit. We need people like Jesse. There's literally no season if Jesse and Lexi don't have this drama. That was the whole, everything everyone talks about. Even Carl and Lindsay, like,

were pretty civil. There was not maybe one or two couple instances. I mean, hysterical final dinner. Yeah, the PowerPoint at the dinner. My first freedom anniversary, she was calling it, with Carl sitting at the table is objectively hilarious. I loved Lindsay this season. But like Carl also, like I said, kind of just took it like a champ. Like he just sat there like, all right, Lindsay. He's like, Lindsay's pregnant. And she writes this fucking essay paragraph, essay.

say MLA format on her Instagram caption and they're all joking about it and she's laughing so it's like even at that point there's not even as much like real juicy drama with them because they're kind of like ah crazy like I think it's kind of crazy I think if you gave Jesse and West truth serum I think that they would both say that deep down they want to date Paige

Did you guys see the clip of Jesse talking about Paige? I would definitely think Jesse would say that for sure. With ordering a Coke. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes, Paige is like one of the funniest girls, you know. I just love how she like orders a regular Coke instead of a diet one. I'm like, this is like, it was just like a perfect view into his head of how he views women. You know, it's like, first of all, he's like one of the funniest girls and like the, oh my, like,

Why even bring up the regular Coke versus diet Coke? Now you're making girls feel bad for ordering diet Coke. Oh, and it's just so quirky and fun. She orders a regular Coke. It's just so... He's saying it for her to hear, and he wants her to know that he thinks she's funny, but he can't think of an example, so he's talking about her drink order. Right, and let me tell you, I think Paige is seriously one of the funniest people on reality TV. Her confessionals, one-liners, are genuinely hysterical. So...

He is right, she is very funny, but the, "I just love how she orders a regular Coke." I could just see him dating a girl and that being one of the things he points out about her. - Yeah, she's so real. - Yeah, I just love how real, you don't care about a diet, babe. - She'll have a cheeseburger. She's fucking crazy. - Man, she'll just pound some ribs. I can see him talking like that. - Nice light beer. - Yeah, she just loves grabbing wings in a beer.

Yeah, I mean, Wes, I think, is just like along for the ride. You know, I think he's like, I joined this show. I think he was in damage control this whole season. I think he went first season and he was like, he got like blindsided. And then he was like, OK, let me be as nice as I can to my fellow castmates. I think he'll have his redemption. You think so? Yeah, I think he'll just spin around, like come back around for a minute. It's even seemed like towards the end of the season, there was a couple moments where even like Sierra was like, I laughed at that.

that you know like there's just there's moments he's taking small wins he definitely had his tail between his legs like the whole season the preview for the reunion did make me laugh when he was like I did I do have notes written down he had some notes in his jacket pocket he's like one of them is just talk

The thing is, he does have some really funny lines sometimes. Yeah, he is funny. He's got some funny one-liners. I'm like, shit. I'm like, Sierra. I'm like, God, I laughed at that. What did you think about the West and Gabby little back and forth at that dinner? I think that I was curious why Gabby had such an animosity towards West, that she was like, you can't talk. Like, you don't talk right now. And then that kind of caused him to fall into, like,

Carl was doing sad boy shit. Jesse was doing sad boy shit. And then Wes was doing sad boy shit. Like all of them were just like, okay.

I know and like Paige and Sierra are like no you can stand up for your friend like it's okay. And it seemed like there's a divide then when like Paige and Gabby aren't on the same page. Gabby confuses me a lot. Same because it's like she doesn't have her own storylines. It's just about being backing up which is nice to have a friend in the house but just how Wes was defending Jessie was how Gabby was defending Lexi so it was kind of confusing that she was like she was allowed to talk but Wes wasn't allowed to talk. It's just like she kind of

came in and has taken like this danielle type role of like being like the worst yeah like the protective but not like gatekeeping friend yeah which is just the worst the five seconds that she's on the show and she's she just talks like she tries to talk cool she's like she's like that's to lulu i'm like that is such a thing to fucking say she was right though i will say i

Right or wrong, she's just annoying. That's how I feel about her. I think in that moment she was very right. Her being like, Lindsay, this is probably the end. You're going to have to grasp that. And Lindsay's like, I don't know. She's like, no, no, no. You're having a baby. Your life is changing. You're not going to be doing anything.

Like this show the same way you've always done it. And she is right, but Danielle's saying it because Danielle's off the show. Yeah. If Danielle was still on the show, I'd be like, Lindsay, you can still come with your baby on the weekends. It's just a little different tone now because she's off the show. I think that's like an archetype that people on Bravo shows fall into where it's like if you're not going to make your personal life the drama, then you have to become the protective best friend. And I think that the shows are always better if people make their personal life the drama. Yeah.

I mean, that's why people go on the shows. They kind of have to, and then they want to step out of it. But it's like, if you're going to go on a reality show like that, you can't portray a perfect life. Like our girl on, on the Valley. Yeah. I don't think they like even really have the answers to, and I don't know if they know what they're going to do or if they're still working, working on it for this summer or next. Like Lindsay had one moment on watch happens live. Just talking about like, I don't, I don't know if they were talking about the next season or what they were talking about.

And Lindsay was like, yeah, where do we go from here, Andy? Like, I think she's like, she looked at it and Andy was like, all right, like kind of like, I get it. I like, she's probably fucking knocking down the doors trying to either find a way for them to film more of like her New York life for summer house or maybe another show. I don't know what. So yeah. And like you were saying, if you get cast on a show and like you said, portray this perfect life,

if you get cast in one of these shows, they know you gave something in your audition or whatever it was that made them believe, oh, you don't have a perfect, like there's drama. There's some messiness about you that we want to be brought onto the show. So moving on to the Valley, which they are still talking about Danny, maybe getting drunk and falling asleep and sneaking tequila in the pantry. He's sneaking around the pantry. And now Nia's talking about whether they bring up

their marital problems on the show or they keep it behind closed doors. And she talked about how they, whatever it is, cameras on or off, they keep it behind closed doors, which is just like sometimes confusing when you sign up for a reality show. And sort of like what Kyle Richards was doing towards the end of, you know, or the latest seasons of Beverly Hills was that people were like, are you in a relationship with this woman? Right. Like people are wondering. Yes. And we are all wondering because you have put your life

in front of us for so long that now it's like you got to either be off the show or on the show. It's crazy to give up control. It's probably very scary to just give up control because every show needs a hero and a villain. And then it's like, you're not portraying the villain. Like if you're the villain on the show, it's because of who you are as a person, which is like, that's pretty damning. Yeah. And so,

and I'm bad with names, but she's Miss America. Yeah. Or not Miss America. She's like a beauty pageant queen. She didn't even miss USA. Yeah. So she's used to portraying herself as perfect, you know? And it's unfortunately in a show like this, like you're not going to be. But I also, I've seen like discourse being like,

the valley after this season like you could chalk the valley it's like I don't think so at all I think the valley has like a lot of meat on the bone I think it's like juicy 100% did you see that the valley had low ratings really and people were like what people start giving it a chance because I think it's a new cast of characters um

I think that Jax is brought onto that show as like the centerpiece of drama. I think people are going to watch for Jax because he's the kind of explosive personality that you know some crazy shit's going to happen. And then he's not there for most of the time. And so you're like, well, is there going to be drama? But if you just tune in, there is crazy shit happening. Right. The rest of them are crazy. They're crazy. They're insane. With or without Jax, he's just the craziest and scariest. Yeah. Like he's got some real dark...

Yeah. Demons. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Maybe a bad person. I think actually, I think you can call it how it is. He's had years built up to get that label, you know? Yeah. Totally. Whereas like somebody like Jesse, second year in, people calling him a bad person. It's like, I don't know if he has the years built up of being like, you're a bad person. Jax, different story. Yeah. And I think with Nia too, I think that after the first season,

a lot of, I'm sure a lot of the fan feedback gets in their heads and matters a lot too. Cause it's like, I think after the first season, a lot of people thought, Oh, look at me and Danny, their adorable family with the little kids. They don't have any problem. Their, their only problem is they can't agree on what frigging city they want to live in. And you know, that's, that's their big, that's their big issue. Santa Clarita, wherever the fuck he wants to go to. And, and,

And I think, like, when you get that feedback of, like...

oh, they're so cute and we love watching them, then they don't want to share any of their problems either. Or things get too extreme. They had that girl's meal and Janet brought up having an ex with drug and alcohol problems and that really offended Nia. She's like, no one said anything about drugs. Everyone's labeling Danny an alcoholic or not an alcoholic. Jasmine's saying, oh, Danny's an alcoholic. She doesn't think he's an alcoholic.

It's just kind of a... It's a tough label to just be throwing around when I think Jasmine just straight up doesn't like Danny because of their experience when Danny got too drunk and was handsy and inappropriate. So I think Jasmine...

I think it's fine for Jasmine to just be like, I really don't like him and I'm not going to like him. If someone grabs your ass, you don't have to give them a second chance. Exactly. She keeps bringing it up, but I think everyone's like, okay, you keep bringing it up. But I think it's fine to be like, I don't really want to fucking be around him, period. Okay, fine. Totally fine to not like him after that. I mean, most people wouldn't. They'd be like, fuck that guy. And you have to hang out with him in the same social settings too. I'd be like, ugh. Right. Exactly. But yeah, that's like,

Nia is opening up about certain things about her past and things that she went through growing up. And the girls almost weren't like... Some were receptive and almost like some weren't because they felt like it was almost performative maybe, which I think is kind of unfair. But they...

look at her like like you said I think I think Bernie's just so pissed that she has to share literally everything and she's just getting dragged through the mud so it like automatically sets up this disparity and like perception where like she's like like she's doing charity to be like oh like you poor girl it's like no we're all living this like you're not my husband's in fucking rehab and I

And, like, she would argue in front of my kids and shit like that. Like, that's got to be brutal. Everybody has, like, ups and downs in their lives. And so to be on camera and being like, I don't have anything was probably frustrating for Brittany. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it felt like a little bit people were saying that Brittany was, like, projecting, like, with the, you know, saying Danny was drunk and all that. And it's like, Brittany, I mean, I just...

I feel bad that she ever ended up in this position, but also she willing... Because people have this discussion where it's like, she willingly chose to continue to be with Jax, but at the same time, you feel for her because you're like... Jax is a master manipulator. Right, exactly. Because you're like, she got roped into this because of how evil Jax is. Yeah. So... I think if you were to look through their...

their history and like actually dig into probably the things that he's said to her it's probably an absolute master class in manipulation and also like knocking her down so much for her to think that the best she could ever do is Jax right and like she needs him to have any success in her life yeah and doing things to her appearance to try to live up to what Jax wanted I mean he made her get a boob job and he made her do all these things and it's just he's just terrible

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I want to move on to the Mormon wives because wow, I watched all 10 episodes yesterday, which I don't know if I'm proud of that. Like I said, I said, that's impressive. It was because I knew that we wanted to talk about it. I wasn't as into the first season as everybody else was. I didn't watch the first season. I'm like, I've,

My wife was watching. I was like, what is this? Exactly. You hear one thing and you're roped in. So I saw everyone discussing the second season and I'm like, all right, I got to sit down and focus on this. And that is exactly what I did yesterday. What did you think about that, the lunch I was talking about? Oh, I mean, I felt so bad for Taylor. I mean. Did you see this one when Taylor was talking about they

They had a meal with all of her family and her ex, baby daddy, Dakota, and Taylor's whole family. And they're like, why aren't you listening? Well, why would you stop sleeping? If you didn't sleep with him, maybe this wouldn't have been a problem. Her dad, he likes her ex more than he likes her. Her dad's like, even when they talk on the phone, he's like, get over here, you bastard. It's just a very weird dynamic. It was really bizarre. It was awful to watch. I felt so bad for her.

I did laugh because I saw Alana, who used to work here, who makes a lot of TikToks, talking about this show. And she was like, you know, I was trying to figure out why I like this show so much. She said she described it as a coming of age show because she said that they've all been, you know,

So, you know, they were in the church for so long and they were so secluded. Yeah, sheltered. And they were sheltered and they haven't experienced a lot of things. So like a lot of the conversations that they're having are conversations that maybe you had with your friends when you were 16 or in high school. Well, those are crazy. They're like mid-20s and they just all have like two or three kids. Right. But they all have kids, but they're all like the sex talk and the, oh, you're not liking my posts and commenting on my posts.

Right, like I went to the Country Music Awards and nobody- Nobody fucking commented about how good I looked. Right, and so the way that she phrased it, I was like, that's actually so funny and true. It's like they're coming of age. You're seeing them break out of their shells. Well, it's like, it is-

Like a high school Mean girl clique They're really mean It's a high school It's an absolute High school clique I mean we're It might even be high school It might be middle school We're voting on Who's in or out of the group Yeah And they need to do I mean They don't have any alcohol To have like The drunken conversation Be like Alright girl Like I really get Like they're just like Tight like I thought about that Watching it too I was like You know what's even crazier Most of the time They're sober

Or they're on ketamine. Yeah, right. Or it's just 2 p.m. in the afternoon and all these things are happening. Taylor, I think because Taylor is such an open book and we have seen so much of her life, you know, with the swinging and the arrest and like,

she has nothing to hide and nothing to lose. So when she's fighting with somebody, she'll go all in because she's like, what are you going to say about me? Like it's all out there. Whereas the other ones, I think she tries to get the truth out of them. Sort of like what we're talking about with like the Valley. It's like,

she tries to get the truth out because some of them seem to be like hiding some of their shit. - I don't think a lot of them would straight up say to like, oh, me and my ex are not together, but like he does come over and we sleep together. - Yeah, she's very open, very, very open. - Like, okay. - Demi. - Demi, yeah. - LVP this season. - What a real tough fall, real tough fall. - I have to look up Demi. - Yeah, yeah. - Because they all do look similar. - I have trouble differentiating. - Yes.

- Yes, they all have the same hair extensions. - This show looks so much like the present day. Everything about it is so 2025. The way they dress, the way their houses are decorated, the costumes that they wear to the parties.

It's like such a perfect time capsule of 2025. Everybody does look exactly the same because they're all wearing the same color palette. They're shopping at the same fast fashion. Everything is exactly the same. Their hair colors. Which is funny because they did make a TikTok how most...

People are blonde in Utah, but they're brunette. Yeah. So they're like, actually, we're different. Another element of the petty fights, too, is like, oh, Demi told Taylor not to go to Jesse's salon. Oh. It's really all these very, very petty things. So I guess Demi, too, right? I think it clearly got to her head last season because she was a fan favorite. Now she's on the second season, not only talking about being a fan favorite, but really...

wanting to lead the group. Like she wants to run. I also love how she wants to be. She wants to run mom talk. I also love that the way they talk about mom talk is,

They talk about MomTalk like it is a business, which, okay, sure, yes. But they also, I almost feel it's just another word to use for being on the show. The group. Like, it's like, you don't get to be on the show. We're the show. Like, I want to run the show. So it's like, I feel like just them saying MomTalk is their way of just saying, like, I don't think you deserve to be on our TV show. Like, with Miranda coming in.

It's like, oh, are we going to let Miranda back into... We're going to have to vote. Are we going to let Miranda into MomTalk? Are we going to let Whitney back into MomTalk? Does Miranda get to come in now? It's like, well, no, they're just deciding do they get to film the show with us? It's crazy. I like Miranda. I do too. I think Miranda's a good asset to the show. She seems to be like...

more level-headed, if that makes sense. Like, I'm trying to, you know, use the accurate word. I think Whitney's a good asset to the show, too, because you need someone to have some, like, differing opinions. A lot of them do kind of just mimic what the leaders say. The leaders. It really is, though. No, it is. Like, look at Layla. Like, she was... Layla is...

fucking petrified of Demi. She could not say one word with Demi around like to support Taylor. She was so absolutely terrified. Is Demi the one who got her husband and she was like, someone just touched your wife? Yes. At the costume party or whatever. Yep, yep, yep. And they're like, get the fuck out. Yeah.

Brett came in, he was dressed in the Chippendales. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to rewind that part a trillion times because I was like, where did he touch her? And you see him kind of touch her as he's walking. And Brett didn't even ask any questions. Like, how did he... What happened? He just fucking stormed for it. And I mean...

I just was confused about the whole thing. It was a weird comment to make, but it wasn't physical assault. It was like, where's your husband? What does that mean? Because that's implying that he's out cheating or something. He's in the bathroom with the other dudes practicing the Chippendale dance. He's oiling up for his Chippendale performance. The whole thing is absolutely insane. And Jesse's saying to the police, do you watch Secret Life? Yeah.

was just so good. They love stirring the pot. They invite all these people. They know where there's going to be drama. But Demi, like, really turned out to be a cold-blooded killer. I had no clue that she... And I think she is kind of that ruthless, it seems, also, because you know what all I needed to know was when they talked about how going into the second season, Demi was okay with Jesse, who is her supposed best friend...

being cut from the show so that Demi could get a higher paycheck to do the show. Yeah. And she was like, I'm fine with that. That is crazy. That's crazy. And Jessie so easily forgave her and was like, they like laughed about it. I was like, oh, you're dead to me. Yeah.

Dead to me Exactly Your best friend Yeah Caught you out of the show For more money Yeah It was like You know what She doesn't need to be on the show And I deserve the bigger paycheck Nope That's insane She was like I'm a fan favorite Like whatever She deserves all the brand deals And here's the thing They put her in the back of the poster They did They put Demi in the back of the poster After all that I hate to break it to you Demi But

Taylor still runs this show. Yeah, she's... Look, Taylor can be very immature and petty as well, but I do think Taylor comes from a better place at times, especially in the beginning of the season when some of the new girls were coming in

She was one of the only ones that was open. She was like, let Whitney come. She's the one that had the drama. I think she took accountability too in some of their talks. She was like, I could have done better at that. Totally. When she was with her friends, the girl squad was like, no, I'm fucking not listening to her. They were like, ooh, how's Taylor going to be if we let Miranda in? Taylor's like, let her. It's fine. But then there's the petty shit. Posting about nobody commenting on her CMA's Instagram is horrible.

Also crazy. Also, she didn't do an incredible job at CMA. She was like, very deadpan. It's also crazy that everybody... Imagine her friends are like, listen, you really didn't do that great of a job. Yeah, we would have. They all text her personally and privately, which I think is almost more

important but she was like no commenting publicly is more important yeah she was like a part of mom talk is publicly and privately so it's like because usually you'd be like oh that happens all the time with social media where people will be like oh this person didn't comment on this or they didn't say something about this and it's like well they could have behind closed doors that's usually what you know people do but then this is the opposite they're like if you don't comment publicly but you text privately it's

private no it's nothing you're private you're telling me i look so beautiful you're so proud of me i don't give a shit comment that publicly no she did mention that um like you said with the miranda stuff she was like i mean they're forgetting like i was kind of a villain in some of that story and i was like honestly she's being like open about you know there was yeah i what i did find interesting with the husband and i'm interested in your guys opinion um with the swinging with miranda and her husband whatever

Them all hooking up with each other wasn't crossing the line. But her saying she had a sex dream with him was? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the rules. But I'm like, they're already kissing and fucking each other. So like, I was just confused why like... They don't know which way is up over there. Yeah, their sexual repression has scrambled their brain. For sure. Like...

But still saying you had a sex dream with someone, she's like, all I did was say I had a sex dream with him. It's like, that is like high level flirtation. Like that's like very, but it's not worse than actually doing it. Yeah, you want to, right there. Well, that's what it's saying. It's like, well, you did openly flirt with him by saying that. It wasn't just a sex dream about you, but you also already had sex with him. So I'm like, I didn't,

you know what I mean? So I like, I guess I don't know, you know, the rules there. I don't know what the parameters were. Yeah. There was a lot of like, I don't think they know. Kissing other things. Who knows? Yeah. I don't know either. They clearly were in over their heads in that situation. Lisa, they're so, they,

They are so young. All of them. It's crazy. Like Layla's 23 years old. They're so young. She smoked the joint right out of her coochie in New Orleans. Yeah, I saw you. What? They went to a burlesque show. Why are they so obsessed with Chippendales and burlesque and stuff like that? Well, that's the only way they really get to feel something. Right. Right.

The ketamine is, blows my fucking mind. The ketamine, I know. Oh my God. They're doing like a hard drug in like a, just like laying on the couch doing a hard drug where they can't have like a sip of alcohol. But they won't, yeah, but they'll go to these fucking children's soda shops. Right. And did you see when, which I did get to try. Demi and, oh really? Yeah, they did. They had Swig. Swig is the name of the company and they're like massive over there and they,

a Clarence event they had swig there and my god it was delicious I had like a diet coke with like a little coconut it was like another little thing in there and they also put edible glitter in it it was gorgeous oh so that's why they enjoy it so much yeah it's incredible did you see the conversation with Demi and her husband and she was

saying like why do you care if these things aren't true and he was like well I want to know where it's coming from she's like I think it's like maybe the ketamine like why she doesn't care and I was like wait what I know she's like maybe you should just try some ketamine Brett just do ketamine you won't care about the rumors but it's also like so many other things that I mean when she did care about the rumors because they did the cameras went down but we were still recording audio and then they started fighting about it

Yeah. Because she was like, I don't know, like the way you're acting. Yeah. But in front of the camera, she was like, no, I believe him. The way Demi also spoke to Taylor's mom was so wild at her Christmas party. I thought that and I mean, Taylor's mom showing up also unnecessary, but I thought she was like so rude speaking to her and like kind of yelling at her. I think

It's tough because I can't defend Demi's actions, but at the same time, I do feel really bad for her because I can't imagine how hard it would be to be amongst these group of girls who seemingly seem to be

extremely fertile. And she's really struggling. She's opened up that she and Brett have been trying to have a kid for four years. It hasn't happened for them. And that pregnancy roulette that they did was mean. That was mean. That was mean.

So the pregnancy roulette thing, Layla was like, we're all going to take pregnancy tests and we're going to throw them in the bowl. And make a video. And make a video. And see if any of them are pregnant. Yeah, and see if any of them come out pregnant. And two of them were pregnant but didn't tell anybody yet.

Oh, they already know. So they put all the tests in the bowl and they were picking up the tests and it came out that two were pregnant and Demi was bawling. She actually, before they even did the test, said like, no guys, like this is really triggering for me. Like she openly said, I don't like this. This is going to make me feel really upset. Taking a pregnancy test is the worst thing in the world to me because like, you know, it's always negative. And then she checked

and two of the tests were positive and she was like and somebody said out loud like seriously guys if it's you just say it because like this is really mean now that no one's saying it and the two women that were didn't say it because they were like well now it feels like a bad thing right now to say it yeah which I I couldn't blame them either because it's so bad all around a bad all around they should have never done it no I was like I looked up on my

I looked up on my phone and I was like, are they doing pregnancy roulette right now? I couldn't even believe it. And Demi was the one who picked up one of the positive tests and she started sobbing. I felt so bad. Because then she was like, should I take another one? Yeah, because she was like, seeing the positive just crushed me because deep down I know it's not me but could it be me?

It's also called mom talk. She has to feel like an outsider just like everybody's a mom. That's where I do feel like there are a lot of maybe deep-rooted feelings that she has that are coming out in different ways of her lashing out because of that or for those reasons. I don't really know, but between that and the whatever the hell went on with Marciano at Vanderpump Villa...

Because that was, I mean, it's ruthless. He had a crush on Demi. He had a crush on Demi. But now the way they ended it was there was a rumor that Jesse and Marciano were out of TomTom. I love the crossover. Love the crossover. I absolutely love the crossover. Love the crossover. That they were out of TomTom and they were making out or whatever. And it was like a whole thing. And that was a rumor. And Jesse's like, that's not true. And then Marciano has this sit down with Layla. And he was like, it wasn't Demi.

And she was like, it was Jesse. He's like, yeah. And he was basically sounding like they had a full-blown affair, that it wasn't just kissing. And then the season ends. And you're just like, holy shit. There's a toxic Jesse on every one of these shows. It's crazy. So now it's like Jesse's being dragged into it. But a lot of people think that Demi, like...

Organize this whole thing To throw People off the scent Of her and Marciano And that she like Threw Jessie under the bus Like for this That would be the third Bad thing she did to her As a best friend Going behind her back To get more money Number two Telling people to not Go to her salon Not go to her salon She told people to not Go to her best friend's salon Because she doesn't Do good hair And now That's fucked up

I know. I honestly was like, you know what? That is messed up. It seemed like Jen Affleck really also felt like she had something. Because also apparently Demi was trying to serve them a cease and desist. They claim that Demi was trying to serve Jen and her husband, Zach. Yeah, Zach. I also really felt bad for her. I know that she got stuck in that drama. But then, man, she seemed like she was in a really bad place. And some of those girls had...

zero sympathy. Yeah, I felt bad for that. It seemed like she was really, really struggling. We saw that the camera stopped filming. Bad place in their relationship and she's like, oh, and I'm pregnant. Yeah, and she was struggling, you know, with her mental health and the cameras even stopped recording with her to give her some space. And the girls were just really not understanding at all. I mean, every single time it was brought up that she wasn't coming to an event, they were like, hmm.

Like I'm just immediately judging her. I was like, can Whitney somehow say a little bit more than what she's saying? I know. You know what I mean? Because I felt like Whitney was being, you know, nice to Jen, not telling the things Jen didn't want her, but at the same time it's like, well maybe tell these girls to stop, you know, judging her so harshly without knowing the background of what she's dealing with. Debbie looked cold blooded. Yeah. Even in all of her concerns.

Yeah, she was like, I don't care. If you're crying, taking a video of yourself crying, I don't care. I don't believe it. She was like, I don't believe it. It's performative. She might be right. No, I mean, I never like when people record themselves crying because you're always like, at what point? Or who's it for? Yeah, and at what point were you crying? Did you decide, I'm going to take out my phone and film this? This is good shit. Yeah.

wow, this is going to be gold. You know, so I, that, but it's just like the things that we were seeing Jen was saying were so like dark that you were, it was just a bad juxtaposition of it all. Yeah, it's tough. It's very tough. So look, I don't know. Once again, we're at another, we're at another end of a season where I don't know where mom tacos from here. Will,

Will mom talk survive is the question. Will mom talk survive this? It also was cracking me up towards the end of the season because they were all like, we don't do videos together anyway. Like what the fuck is mom? Now we're just a group of friends on reality TV. Like that is okay. We can do that and say that. But for like...

the facade of like we need each other for TikTok is now not the case. No, they need each other for this show. Yeah. You know what? They put out two seasons in a short amount of time. So I'm excited for them to knock out a third season because I know it'll come quick. They're banging these things out. They hit on a

big to be continued. Yeah. There's also 45 cast members. You know, there's so many people. It's like, we're finding a plot line in here somewhere. Right. It is a big cast and I feel like there's people we didn't even touch on, but it's kind of impossible. I know. There's just a lot going on. I was a big fan of, I was a big fan of Michaela this season. I do like Macy and Michaela a lot. I do feel like they try and stay out of the drama, but it is tough. I think Michaela,

I kind of respect that Mikayla absolutely was like, I will never fuck with Whitney again. Mikayla with the baking competition. Oh. When she was like, if he knows what's good for him, he'll give Whitney a three. Yeah. I was like, wow. This baking competition, they're even mean during this? Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's good stuff. I'm glad I jumped aboard because I'd be missing out severely. These girls, yeah, these ladies, they got, and they love-

Being on reality TV. They do. And that's what we need. It's the new like, I've been starved for a show that's like this because it feels like a lot of the Bravo shows are like a little bit sanitized. And they're just like, we don't give a fuck. No, they're now, they're letting it all out. Really. And it is at its core, like so petty, so much of it. And it gets blown out of proportion so much. But it's so...

So entertaining. There's no media training. Nobody has... But we don't want them to do that. No, I know. Not at all. No. Zero training. Marciano also is a very interesting character. I don't watch Vanderpump Villa, but people do compare him to Jax. So I said, that can't be good. Have you watched Vanderpump Villa?

No, but my answer for the most aspirational Bravo man is Beau. Yeah, yeah, he's the one. What did you think of all the stuff with him and his sister? Did you see all that? No, I didn't see it. Oh, boy. No, it's not that. It's really, I think it was pretty superficial, but there was a moment in the show, and Stassi had also talked about it on her podcast, and they were in Italy, and I guess Beau missed,

Met I don't know the backstory I'll probably Fumble this but Bo I guess met his sister Like later in life Kind of some sort of Situation like that and I guess he has Her name

Tattooed on him. And Stassi, I think, has always just thought that he and his sister had a little bit of a weird relationship. And so Stassi was like, well, you get my name tattooed on you? And he said no. And she was not happy.

Yeah, so it actually became a thing on TikTok where people were really weirded out and they were like, why did he get a tattoo for his sister that he just met within, I guess, I think it was like maybe the past five years. Her name is weird. Maybe like a symbol that you guys share, you know, as opposed to your name. And then, yeah, then he wouldn't.

Would either of you get your sister's name tattooed on you? No, I wouldn't get any names. No, but I think about it like I wouldn't get my brother's name tattooed on me. I wouldn't get my sister's name. Yeah. But then he wouldn't get a tattoo for Stassi. So that's what the... Bo has a match... Okay, also, here's a good clarification. They have matching tattoos. Bo has a matching tattoo with his Italian half-sister, Georgia.

Like me and my siblings all have a tattoo. I have a matching tattoo of my siblings and my cousins, but it's not. But is it, what is it? Is it her name or is it just a matching? I thought it was a name, but maybe not. Oh no, matching tats of each other's names.

So that's not really matching tats. No, that's not. Matching tats is the same name. Matching tats is the same name. You have each other's names tattooed on each other's. Yes. Yes. Which is different. That's absolutely different. I just, what are you, I mean, it's a symbol for the other person. Yeah, but if that's the worst thing Bo's doing. Right. Yeah. They're going to find something. Compared to what the other guys are doing. Yeah, so they connected later in life. She grew up in, Georgia grew up in Italy and had moved back to Italy when Bo was young.

At least her name is Georgia. You could just be like, I like this state. Big fan of peaches. And they just, yeah, so that was that. But it was just a, it was a good classic like throwback Vanderpump almost meltdown of Stassi just being a little drunk and upset that her husband won't tattoo her name on him. But would get his sister and her and her like girlfriends were like, it's weird. I love when we get a little vintage Stassi in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But other than that,

I think Bo has always stayed pretty above water. Yeah. For sure. I think it's like everybody else has pretty big blemishes. Yeah. If that's the worst thing, he got like a nice matching tattoo with his sister. But they're going to find something about everybody. Like they're not going to get through it clean. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I know. So I don't know what they're going to do. I still think all the time about Schwartz walking into the summer house, leaving the girls in the room being like,

cherish this yeah hold on to this no we're no we all fucking hate each other now we never see each other another person when they say something funny you're just like damn it i'm like poor schwartz what uh he's just like golden retriever yeah he just must be like lying in his apartment like how did this happen well did you guys see sheena um broke down on her podcast a little bit no i think

I didn't see all of it. I think she just feels like she's in a confusing place now. That's fair. She's like a little bit on the valley, but not really. Yeah, like Vanderpump said, you know. She wasn't saying this out loud. I mean, it's an impasse. Well, last season was like a little bit dry.

Like compared to. It's done now. It's done. Completely done. And they're being recast. They said they're going to like try and bring in a whole new cast of characters that work at CERT. So she's been on the valley a little bit as a friend of. And, you know, it probably is a little disorienting when you spend years of your life, your whole adult life on reality TV. And that's your job. And now you're kind of like, what's my job? What's my job? Right. Yeah.

how am I going to make money and even like doing a podcast a lot of the times like doing a podcast you're talking about your own show and like those things and now if you're like not on the show you're still talking about the show but now you're on and you can't get on Dancing with the Stars it's a whole different thing whole different thing so but

I think that's a lot of reality TV we just covered. It is a lot of reality TV and Summer House is coming to an end. It's over now. We have a reunion. Anything you're excited to watch, Roan? Do you see anything coming up this summer? What's your favorite?

I was like an old school New York. I'm in on the new New York cast because I felt like I could be ground floor on it. Yeah, and now we don't know what's happening with that. Well, because it's not juicy. Yeah. Like there's nothing really juicy about it. Brynn's trying. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, I think Brynn tried too hard.

Yeah. Brent took it to a bad place. Yeah, she's in the box at the Knicks game with Jesse and Wes, and people are giving her as hard of a time as these other guys are getting. I've long been a Potomac fan, honestly. I'm deep on Potomac. I'm trying to think which other one. I mean, Southern Charm always. I'm actually excited for the new shows that they announced. I love the idea of the Housewives swap. Did you see that? The real Housewives swap where they're going to have...

Right? They're having like... I think they're gonna swap. They're doing wife swap. They're doing wife swap, but I think it's not housewives. I think it's one housewife and one like normal...

A normie. A normal family. A civilian. A normie. And they're going to swap them. What? I love it. So you're going to take like a mom with five kids in Texas and send her to live with like Joe Gorga. I fucking love it. I actually. Isn't that used to be a show? Yeah, it is. Why swap? Oh, that was. I thought you were talking like the Mormons. No, no, no. Why swap? They literally used to just swap wives. The other one that I'm actually really excited about too, I think is Rhode Island because they just released the, it wasn't like official, but it's like the rumored cast of Rhode Island. Yeah.

And one, Dumas like kind of also said that they think that Dolores may end up on the Rhode Island show. Like if, I don't know what, if she knows some of them, but it seems like kind of like a deep rooted, like Italian, uh, Northeast, like they're, they're all in Providence. Providence has like a mob. They do. And I think there's apparently one of the husbands is like a drunk.

drug dealer. I don't know. I was reading all this backstory. We need to fill in for Jersey. I was reading all this backstory that really was pulling me in. They all have like, like olive skin, dark hair. They all look exactly the same. Amazing. I'm excited for a little shake up of Bravo shows. Yeah. Specifically the wife swap one. I'm very, I'm very into watching that because I remember how good the original wife swap was. I was laughing because when I first saw Real Housewives of Rhode Island, my brain went to like,

old generational money Newport like buy them and they're like no we're taking a bunch of Italians for profits like pinstripe suits and fedoras yeah yeah yes okay alright that works too I love it I love it I mean

Publis has got to, got to make her way onto that show. You're throwing Publis in the room? I am. I am. I thought she was going to be on Survivor. No, well, she's moving. She did that thing with Tommy. I know. That's what I'm saying. She's moving to Rhode Island. Rhode Island. You don't think I'm plugged in? This is her time. You never know. Especially if it's like Italians from Rhode Island. Throw her in the mix.

the mix you're right she needs to get in the mix I feel like she has her pick of reality shows to be on right now it's just couldn't be better time it is you're so right she's moving to Rhode Island very true we're just lucky to be basking in the light that's what I'm rooting for really rooting for that to happen but

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bite into it. I mean, bite? It's like, it's being shoved down our throats. No, I know. We don't even have to bite. Being force fed the content. So originally, Chris, for a little background info, people may not know, Chris was on Love Island season three. He dated Olivia Atwood, who actually was a guest recently on our show, and Jojo Siwa, of course. I'm pretty sure everyone knows who Jojo Siwa is. They went on Celebrity Big Brother UK and

while JoJo was on Big Brother, she had a partner. And they seemingly broke up after JoJo got home. People thought maybe because of Chris. She said, no, it's platonic. Me and Chris, we're just friends. And now Chris seemed to have hard launch pictures with JoJo on his Instagram. And then JoJo started hard launching with Chris and

And everyone's all confused and this can't be platonic. No, no, it's a launch. This is a launch. It just seems like these two, they must be dating. They can't be messing with us. You can't put JoJo in a box, you know? And we watched all the things she said when she was on Celebrity Big Brother and

it really seemed like she was having a lot of different feelings and questioning a lot of different things and Chris obviously was very much there for her and they have some serious bond and I mean what a story at this point now the son actually got posted a picture of what looks like them kissing in a pool it's a little blurry but you know it is kind of clearly them so yeah I think we're just I mean they're just dating

just dating like all right it's just it was a wild ride they denied it for a while we didn't know what's happening there was clearly flirtations happening when they were in the big brother house like as much as they didn't know what it was it was definitely flirtatious and it's led them to this point right i think as jojo grows more into an adult into adulthood she's experimenting with her sexuality and she's getting to know herself more and i think she talked a little bit about that

But as for the flirtations with Chris and what went on in the house, it was disrespectful to her partner. You know, like...

She was in a relationship. She was in a relationship. She was doing things that I think you don't do while you're in a relationship and kind of crossing that line in that boundary. And now if she's dating Chris, it is clear that that boundary was crossed while she was in a relationship. But yeah, they're caught kissing the sun posted. And I think everyone is just like, what the hell he happened here? Like it just really did a flip. Like everything escalated so quickly because it's,

Because she was in a relationship when she went on Big Brother, I just don't think people expected all of this outcome. It wasn't even a thought in people's minds that she'd go on Big Brother and end up dating Chris Hughes. I will say, though, it did feel like the outcome when the show ended. I'm not surprised seeing this the way they left the show. The way it all went, I would have been more surprised if they just...

communication and that was it or it was like something for the show and whatever. This kind of, maybe it's an opposite feeling some people have. I'm like, this kind of legitimizes what was happening on the show in a way that like, because people are like, ah, are they playing it up for the show and all these things and people thought like, oh, is Chris using JoJo? I definitely thought Chris was using JoJo. I was in that camp. I was sending you messages like, what the frick, he's using her. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, who knows? But now the two of them seemingly to the outside world are putting out an image that they could not be happier. They just celebrated Jojo's 22nd birthday, I believe, was recently. And they have all these pictures of them together and they were traveling all over. They're at Disney. They're doing this.

She had wrote on her Instagram caption, this year's birthday was more magical than anything. Full of surprises, family time, performing, chilling, laughing, loving, smiling, and good, meaningful cries. Absolutely beautiful. Wouldn't change a single thing. A week I'll remember for the rest of my life. And she's, you know, she's cuddled up to Chris. And it's just, it's crazy. I do think it's like, I will say, you can be mad at her for...

well, you can pretend, yeah, obviously she's in a relationship before and it's like, ooh, that was maybe not the best thing. But I think people were criticizing her for like being with Chris and it's just like, well, she can really be with whoever she wants. It's like just, she doesn't really have to, like I said, doesn't have to keep herself in a box however she feels she feels. And Chris also posted on Instagram that,

two days ago and said his caption was the previous seven days have been the prettiest and Jojo commented and happiest heart is overflowing heart emoji a lot of cuddling a lot of cozied up pictures he's with her whole family he's meeting Abby Lee Miller at an event well that one just made me spit out my drink that I wasn't drinking I'm not gonna lie I was like wait what also shout out Kelty I don't know did you see that e-news video no it was like um

She was interviewing Jojo and Kelsey was with one other guy that I don't know. He's British as well. And he, I think, knows Chris. So he was like, oh, so go with my friend Chris. And she was kind of coy about it and showed a picture on her phone to them of

And Kelty was like, it's a picture of him kissing her forehead. Oh, my God. Honestly, shout out to Kelty. And they were like, ah, like blow up her spot. But, you know, Kelty's doing her job right there. Kelty was doing her job. That is some good journalism right there. Exactly. She knew we all wanted to know what the picture was. Absolutely. And she said, I'm going to tell everyone what she just showed me. Absolutely. Now...

Listen, I want to get them both in the studio and just sit down and ask them what happened. I really do. I want to get asses in the seats here and find out where this love story began because I think we're all interested and we all want to know what the hell's going on. And I think we do know what's going on. Is that they're dating? I think it's hard launches. I don't think they're fucking with people. I think this is what's happening. I did see people discuss the age gap. I'm not too caught up on that. Yeah, I mean, he's 32. She's 22, 10 years. Yeah. You know,

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one, this age gap I'm not particularly caught up in. Yeah. I don't.

JoJo's lived a lot of life for a 22 year old. That's for sure. I just hope Chris isn't using her for fame. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just hoping. I would. I would. I don't want to put that out there, but I'm just hoping because let's be honest. Yeah. He did. You know, it wasn't like his was skyrocketing recently. I wonder like what he had a big showing on Love Island season three. Yeah. People love a lot of UK reality. Right. And now he's on another one. And it's like, I hope he's not using JoJo here.

I wonder what, like, the conversation is like around each of them in the different countries, you know? Like, I'd imagine we are way more familiar with Jojo Siwa.

Yes. And then in the UK. Right. But if he knows that she's popular here... No, no, definitely, definitely. And people, like, know... We know who Chris Hughes is. Mm-hmm. But a majority of America would be like, I don't know who the fuck that guy is, you know? But in the UK, he's, like...

a top, top reality TV star. Not even as in like top, top, but like name recognition. People know his name. Okay, so maybe people from here, like we maybe think, oh, is Chris using JoJo for fame in the US? Whereas people in the UK might be like, oh, is JoJo using Chris for fame in the UK? I wonder if they know JoJo as well as we do. I don't know how familiar with dance moms they are over there. Right.

But she exceeded Dance Moms. Of course. She's a billion, billion dollar brand. The JoJo Siwa name. Nickelodeon and all that. International superstar. So I'm sure. But I think... I just feel like JoJo has a different...

pre-Big Brother, her being on Big Brother, I wonder what more of the talk around Jojo Siwa was over there if they fully grasped her star power. That is true. That's a good question. But I think we were all kind of freaking out when we saw these. These two crazy kids. We were like, whoa, there are pictures now. Oh, blown away. I couldn't believe how many. Full, full.

And now we're getting paparazzi pictures of them smoothing. So we've got confirmation going on right now. We've got confirmation. Moving on, we have confirmation that Alex Earle will be in the next season of Dancing with the Stars. Prompt for this. I think that this is a great casting. The first person who was announced was Robert Irwin, which we thought was very exciting and a great casting. Now they have Alex Earle. And I think this is great. But immediately...

My brain starts going. I'm like, okay, well, she's got to lay low in the partying during the season of Dancing with the Stars. If she's going to be practicing and working hard and training, we can't be partying every night. Alex, we love to watch it on TikTok. I love all the festivities that she's going to. You know, you do your thing, girl.

we got to lock in. No, we got to lock in for training. And I think she will. I think she'll take it very seriously. It seems like she mentioned. She's a business woman these days. I'm like, how much party is she even doing? She's traveling from work event to work event. She is always booked and busy, but she mentioned watching the show growing up, watching it with her Nana and her Nana saying, Oh, you're going to be on the show. And, um, very sweet like that. Um, we,

We know Braxton is on the Texans now, so she'll have to be splitting her time between L.A. and Texas football season. And Dancing with the Stars season is the same time. So it's going to be booked and busy. But I think this is a good casting. And I'm excited for the rest of the cast. I am too. I think it's going to be great. It's a good sign for what's to come. I know if you're maybe not too familiar with what Alex Earl has said about Dancing with the Stars before, you're probably like, wait, what?

Alex Earl's going on Dancing with the Stars like it just feels could feel kind of random but like you said she has been very open about wanting to do the show so I'm sure it's like they reached out and it's like done done and done I want to do it and I think she's pretty great she grew up dancing more like you know funsies but like I think she did dance classes and dance teams and things like that so yeah

I think it'll be very fun to watch her. I think she's doing great. I think it actually works out perfectly that her and Braxton can kind of be locked in during football season. She's going to be dancing. He's going to be playing football. What team is he on again? He's on the Texans. And now I just need to make sure she's not paired with Glover.

If you're a good partner, it can't be Gleb. I don't think they will. I don't think they will either. I hope I could see it maybe being Alan, but I'm really rooting for Ezra. Yeah, I think. I'm really rooting for Ezra. It would just make so much sense. I think if they knew what was good for them and the TikTok power that they could generate for the show would be putting the two of them on, pairing them together. I absolutely agree. And I don't think it feels as random as some people may think with how big Dancing with the Stars has become on TikTok.

- Yeah. - Especially this past season. - This past season really catapulted that I think younger people wanna do the show. - For sure, it blew up on TikTok and so I don't think it's as random. I think Ezra would be great, I think Brandon would be great. I think Val, you know, great teacher.

Anybody but Gleb. And I do not think they will put her with Gleb because of the way that Brooks talked about how when she was going on the show and they asked her, who are you looking for in a partner? And she said, I want someone douchey, whatever. And they're like, perfect. We have the guy. Yeah. I'd imagine they would ask Alex, who are you looking for in a partner? And I don't think she's looking for a single guy. No. Like Gleb as her partner. I think Ezra deserves it too, especially after last season with Gleb.

Freaking what's her face? Anne Adelvey. Yeah, no, for sure. You know, I agree. And I think they would just generate so much great buzz online. Their content would be amazing. Yeah.

I think it would be like so smart for them to, to be coupled up for the show. So I hope that they do that. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah. Really anybody but Gleb. And I, I think that would be the case, especially after last season. I don't think, and they know Alex has a serious boyfriend. Like I don't think they can't replicate that again. Like they'll, they're going to give, they're going to go back to giving Gleb like an older housewife. Right. And I think it would just be like, you don't pair somebody with a serious boyfriend with Gleb. No, no. And I don't think Alex would want that either.

You don't think, like, it would be fine if they were together, though? No. He's not going to, like... He's not going to be forced into a relationship with her. No, no, no. There's a tainted image of him. No, but he has a reputation, and I think, like...

The first time that they would do, you know. A steamy salsa. Yeah. Or like a beautiful rumba together. People are going to be like, ah, Gleb's getting too close. Right. And you don't want that. It would just cause too much. I think it would be too much noise in a bad way. I agree. And she needs to be focused on the dancing, not whether or not people are talking about relationships. Exactly. Like I want it to be like a fun experience for her. And Sticky, she's really young. And he's old. Yeah.

I mean, granted, Brooks isn't that much older than Alex is. Yeah. But, you know, I think Brooks was putting in a, like you said, a specific request. She did put in a request. And I just think Alex would actually want the opposite of him. I agree. So I don't think we have to be too worried about that. Yeah. There was some news about Scooter Braun and Taylor, eye roll, obviously, where it was stated that Scooter Braun...

said um or he's giving taylor the chance to buy back yeah the original recordings of the six albums for a hefty price uh somewhere between 600 million and a billion dollars now the question it just raises itself do you or do you not i wouldn't want to give them a dime i would just be like nah i got my new shit but then you also want to own your shit so it's like which

Which one do you go for, you know? That's a hefty price. It really is, but I kind of, I don't know why I feel like she would do it. She's got the money. I mean, yes, but... But I could also see... But it's just like, I think, I feel like she could do it because what if they just get bought by somebody else? You know, like... I could also see... Or maybe she just doesn't care anymore because she has her own versions, but...

I could see a scenario where she's like,

I shouldn't even have to pay that money for my own music. No, of course. You know what I mean? Of course. Or are you honored that your music costs that much? It's kind of like a power move to be like, I have the money, I'm going to own all my stuff now. Exactly. That's why I think there's two different angles here. It's like, I shouldn't have to pay that money for my music. Also, I do have that kind of money, so fuck you, I'm going to buy my music. And she'll make money off of it. If she buys it back, then she's making all the money. Yeah, yeah. Anything for any original version or Taylor's version, she would have both. Right. But...

Scooter Braun had sold the recordings after he got them. He sold them to the investment firm Shamrock Capital for a profit. The company is now interested in selling them back to Swift. And Page Six is told that the person encouraging Shamrock to do so is Scooter Braun.

A source said, interestingly enough, one of the individuals who is encouraging this deal to take place is Scooter, who was at the center of the deal the first time around alongside Big Machine. Oh, he's looking for some good PR or some shit. Yeah, it's like, oh, now it's like, oh, now. Still making her pay for it. Okay, yeah. You're not just letting her have them. It's not like you're giving it to him for free. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. $600 million to $1 billion. It says...

But it would be worth it, according to Clayton Durant, founder of the music consulting firm CAD Management. He explained that if she owns both the old and new recordings of her songs, she stands to make the lion's share of publishing royalties from both. She will also have full control over her own catalog and be able to control whether they are licensed for use in commercials, film and TV shows, political rallies, and more. If she could claw back and create a deal structure where she could get the rights to her original recordings, she exponentially increases the amount of money she makes, Durant told Page Six.

She's making money off the publishing still from the original songs, but not as much as from the Taylor's versions, which she owns. So he also noted that when she puts out a re-recorded version, consumption also spikes on the original, which is interesting. So I don't know. I can very much see her doing this. I think that...

it would make sense for her. Yeah, I don't know where my brain falls on this. Like at one point, at some point it's like, no, fuck you, but also at the same time, I think...

To say, you know what? I'm fucking buying it back. Like, I'm going to own all my music. Right. And I have the money to do so. You know what? I'm just going to buy it. I think it would be a source of peace for her to, like, know that she really has everything. Not only that, but she's got the original and her re-recordings. That's true. And just own it all and say, you know what? It is what it is. I have the money to do it. And yeah, fuck you. I'm buying it back. Yeah. So. You know what also happened today is that the Baldoni team dropped Taylor Swift from the

From the lawsuit They don't want anything to do with that They don't want the smoke They dropped Taylor Swift's subpoena It said that no further information was provided Deadline report on Thursday Page Six has reached out to Baldoni's reps for comment Meanwhile a source cryptically tells us of the matter When information is voluntarily received There is no need for subpoenas

So, and then Blake's rep put out a statement saying, we're pleased that Justin Maldoni and the Wayfair parties have withdrawn their harassing subpoenas to Taylor Swift and her law firm.

We supported the efforts of Taylor's team to squash these inappropriate subpoenas directed to her counsel, and we will continue to stand up for any third party who's unjustly harassed or threatened in this process. You know what? Yep. Tree Payne is making shit happen behind the scenes. She gets shit done. Yep. You know what? We're squashing that. Squashed. Forget it. It's out. We're not letting her get involved with this Justin Baldoni stuff. Nope. Not happening. It's not happening. Moving on. Last topic.

The Hunger Games casting. I mean, pretty exciting stuff. One after the other, it is better and better. I have not read this book yet. It just came out, really, Sunrise and the Reaping. And...

I didn't have a dying need to read it. Gia read it. She was like, it's so good you should read it. I was like, okay, I'll get to it this summer. And now that I've seen everybody cast in it, I'm like, oh, I'm reading this ASAP because when the movie comes out, forget, I'm so- You gotta be prepared. I never, I didn't see the, I didn't see the Rachel Zegler. Was it Mockingbird? No, no, that was- It was Mockingjay. Mockingjay. Yeah. No, the one that was the,

Rachel Zegler. What was that one called? I'm blanking on the name, but I am getting it. Hunger Games. Yeah. The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Yep, yep, yep. That one. So now... That's why Mockingbird, I was thinking. Right. So this one is Sunrise on the Reaping, which follows... It's about Woody Harrelson's character instead of... And it's earlier. Mm-hmm.

But we have some crazy roles. They just confirmed that Kieran Culkin is playing young Caesar Flickerman. Very exciting. Which is amazing. That was his character is played by Stanley Tucci. Yes. In the, you know, Jennifer Lawrence iterations of the movies. Elle Fanning will be young Effie Trinket. Thought that was perfect. Elizabeth Banks played her. I thought it was so perfect. So perfect.

Jesse Plemons will be the younger Plutarch Heavensby. He was played by Philip Seymour Hoffman. Also amazing. It's amazing all around. I mean, they really went like the looks. They nailed it. They really nailed it. And Ralph Fiennes is going to play younger President Snow, who was played by Donald Sutherland. And they join McKenna Grace, Lily Taylor, and Joseph Zada as important but not younger versions of existing characters.

And it just, the movies, which is obviously, like I said, is Explorers Pan Am, 24 years before Katniss, where a young Haymitch Abernathy participates in the 50th Hunger Games. Ooh, I like the premise. But it's not going to be Woody Harrelson himself. Somebody's going to be playing the young Woody Harrelson. Which has, I guess, not been cast or announced. I didn't see that one announced. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. So now the brain starts going, who would play a good young, younger Woody Harrelson? I don't know why Austin Butler popped into my mind. I mean, I mean, Austin Butler, Woody Harrelson, that would be a great honor to Woody Harrelson to have Austin Butler play him. Oh, that's true. Wait, Woody Harrelson was a good looking guy when he's like, you know, when he's younger. No Austin Butler. To each their own. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Oh, they already cast him. Oh, who is it? It's this young guy. And unknown? Joseph Zada. Young actor playing young Haymitch. Joseph Zada has landed the coveted role. They announced that at the end of April. Okay, I can see it. He's Australian. I can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Since he is only 16 years old in the book, Joseph Zada is obviously a little bit older in real life, but he is...

Huh. Yeah. Yeah.

A blog story short before the book came out and fans could read it. The crew was not able to start reading actors for fear that any pot lines could leak with the audition calls. That makes sense. You don't want that getting slipped. Yeah. Yeah. So it is crazy. That's very exciting. They give the sides for like the white Lotus to the actors and just pray that they don't leak them. Yeah. Yeah.

The producer also said that Joseph Zadig prepared like crazy and stole our hearts. He's an Australian. Fuck yeah. Australian actor. I love that. Come prepared. Yep. Come prepared to play. Yep. Exactly. And that's what he did.

Yeah. Good for him. That's so exciting. I love that. I think that's such a great move of like bringing in a young up and coming actor, put him in that lead role and then surround him by like an absolutely fantastic amazing cast. It made me a hundred times more interested because I wasn't interested before. And now I am with this casting. They roped me really. I was like, shit, I gotta go buy the book. Yeah. They got me in. Yeah. All right. That wraps up the topics.

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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another game of Beaver and Fran. This is game number 175 and we are joined by Grace and Carly. Want to give a, you know, pre-wedding congratulations to Grace. She's getting married on Sunday. Super exciting. Nice little wedding weekend. So we are sending all the good vibes for this tribute game. And if we lose, we'll accept it, but we're still going to play hard.

Yes. Love is so exciting. Love is in the air this spring. Yes, it is. Okay, gals. We'll jump right into it. It is 15 questions. If you get the question right, you get the point. If you get it wrong, the other team can steal the point. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We're going to guess the Rotten Tomatoes critic score of that movie. And whoever's closest will go first. Everyone gets their own individual guess. And we will alternate between teams for guesses. Noah, what is today's movie?

Today's movie on theme is The Wedding Planner. I knew you were going to pick a wedding movie and I didn't look any up. Darn. All right. So Grace or Carly, one of you goes first. I'm going to say 72. Maria? 39. I'm going to go 20. Ooh. 56. 56.

Grace is the closest. 17. Wow. 17? Grace, I'm happy for you. One seven? Yep.

Oh, that is criminal. I had a feeling it would be low. That is criminal. But not that low. That's a great movie. I don't know if I've ever seen that movie. Oh, great movie. But is it like a good, bad movie? No, I think it's like a pretty solid rom-com. Yeah, like a good, good movie. Yeah. Duh. Okay. Question number one to Grace and Carly. Shout out Ashley and John from Pittsburgh.

What town does the show Family Guy take place in? Oh my god. This is you. It should be. Oh my gosh. This is going to kill me. Where is the character on the show that's not a city? Is it like Philly? 15 seconds. Somewhere right there. That's going to literally kill me when I hear it. Five. You want to say Philly? Sure. Philadelphia. Final answer? Incorrect. Chicago.

I have no clue. It's a strong guess that I'm going with. I originally had no idea, but now I'm leaning Chicago. My brain went Simpsons, and then I got confused. Where are the Simpsons from? Isn't it Springfield? Since it's Springfield, Illinois. Oh, oh. So, Illinois. Should we just go Illinois? No, I think. Or Chicago? I would go Chicago. Okay. Chicago. Chicago.

No, it's a fictional town. It's Quo-Hog. Quo-Hog. Quo-Hog! Right, right. Cool. Sick. I was like, oh, it's definitely Chicago. All right. Still 0-0. It is question number two to re-infrain. Shout out to Sarah from Louisville, Kentucky. In Spongebob Squarepants, when the Krusty Krab was open for 24 hours, who was revealed to be the one flickering the lights?

The hash-slinging slasher. No? Oh, no. He wasn't flickering the lights. Wasn't it Gary? 15 seconds. Is it Nosferatu? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. Is that crazy? Nosferatu? 5 seconds. Ugh.

All right. I'm going to go Nosferatu final answer. Correct. Nice. I also, like, when I read this question submitted, I looked it up and watched the video. Yeah. Because I'm like, how would that even work? And it was just like, you know how they cut to, like, a real life thing? Yeah. That's what they did. They all were like, Nosferatu. That's the only reason I really even knew what Nosferatu was before that movie came out.

Okay, one nothing. Rianne Fran, question number three to Grayson Carley. Shout out Eileen from Long Island. Name this year. Eminem's movie 8 Mile is released. Nelly releases his song Hot in Here in American Idol season one premieres. Five, six. So American Idol just had their like 20th anniversary, but I don't know if it was this year or last year.

Do you want to go 2005? Yeah, we can do it. Yeah. Okay. 2005. Final answer. Incorrect. I think it's earlier. 2002? 2001 or two or three. Two, three. Maybe three. Two. I think two or three. I don't know. Originally I thought one, but that might be too early. Eight Mile, American Idol. What was the last one? Nelly, Hot in Here. Hot in Here. Ten seconds. Ten seconds.

Three. I don't know. You pick one. I don't know. Let's go 2002. Final answer. Yeah. Correct. Nice. I put all the pressure on you. I said, oh, you better make it work. Pick one. Okay. Two nothing. Rianne Fran. Question number four to them. Shout out Libby from Lafayette, Louisiana. In Legally Blonde, Brooke Windham is accused of murdering her husband. What was the husband's name? Oh, I have no idea. Ooh.

Shit. I don't know. I'm trying to think of what the daughter's name is. I have no idea. 15 seconds. Drawing a complete blank. George? Maybe. Five seconds. George. Final answer. Incorrect. Imagine you said correct. Would have been an all-time moment. I'm assuming you're looking for a first and last name. Just first. Because, I mean, it's the same last name. All right, done.

I wanted to say like... I was like, isn't it wind up? Harvey. Harvey. Okay. Do you have any other ideas? No. Okay, I'm going to say Harvey. Final answer. Incorrect. Right first letter. Hayworth. Hayworth. Knew it wasn't going to be something as simple as George. Yeah, it had to be a booze man. Although those all seem like in the right realm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like kind of pretentious names. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. It is still 2-0 Rianne Fran. This is question number five to Grace and Carly. Shout out Sarah from Louisville, Kentucky. In the Twilight series, what is the first name of the only girl that's a member of the Wolfpack? Oh my gosh. I just literally watched all of these last week. And I was not paying attention because I was more Team Edward. That's so annoying. I have no idea. Yeah.

The first name of the girl in the wolf pack. I know her face because it's not the woman with the scar here. It's the young woman. 15 seconds. Oh my gosh. I don't know. I don't know. I did not watch that one. Three seconds. Sarah? Sarah. Final answer. Incorrect. Vanessa? The first name that came to mind is Leah. Oh, yes. But is that the one with her face? Isn't she in the wolf pack? Oh. Doesn't she get to be in it? Yeah, I like Leah. But there's...

I say Leah. Is that her? Yeah. Okay, go with Leah. Leah, final answer. Correct. Leah Clearwater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Three nothing. Rhea and Fran. Question number six to them. Shout out Morgan and Baby Ginny from Hunterton County, New Jersey. Oh, congrats.

Most to least? Most to least. Damn, all of these have so many episodes. Friends has ten seasons with... Seinfeld is what, nine? Yeah. It's eight or nine for sure. I think it's nine.

I think Friends has more episodes than Seinfeld. And I think Modern Family might have a bajillion episodes. Yeah, yeah. But maybe... Full House. Full House also has a ton. I would put maybe Seinfeld...

I put Seinfeld last, I think. Last. Five seconds. Maybe, okay, let's go, maybe Friends, Modern Family, Full House, Seinfeld? Yeah. Okay. Friends, Modern Family, Full House, Seinfeld. Incorrect. I just had a feeling we weren't going to get

that one no it's all over it's really just a guess friends has the most modern family has 11 seasons because i'm in eight i'm in the middle of season eight right now and then friends has 10 what do we think full house has though it doesn't count fuller house no so what was the fourth one seinfeld but that has nine okay

Maybe Full House last. So Modern Family, Friends, Seinfeld, Full House. That works. Okay. Modern Family, Friends, Seinfeld, Full House. Final answer. So close, but no. It's Modern Family at $250, Friends at $236, Full House at $192, Seinfeld at $180.

Very close. Yeah. Oh, we were so close too. Yeah, we just flipped the first two. Damn. Okay, question number seven to Grace and Carly. Shout out Carly and Aaron from Port Townsend. Finish this quote from The Breakfast Club. Screws fall out all the time. The following. Screws fall out all the time.

I'm taking a shot in the dark. Like we all have some loose, like loose screws. We all have some loose ones. We all have some loose ones. I don't know where else to take that. Yeah, that works. We all have some loose ones. Final answer. Incorrect. No clue. No clue. I thought this was going to be one where you got, you were like, oh, you just haven't seen this movie. No. This is so easy. I genuinely have no idea. No idea. Let's read it again. Screws fall out all the time.

It's about how you put them back in. Yeah, it's our job to replace them. I have no clue. I don't even have a guess. Like, it's... Screws fall out all the time. It's about how you...

It's about how you replace... Five seconds. Okay, what is it? The world's an imperfect place. John Bender said it. No, I don't know that. Oh, wow, okay. The way that he said it, I was like, oh, yeah, this is like a classic quote. I mean, I'm sure it is. There's a lot of classic quotes in that, I feel like. I can't really quote... Yeah, I'm not like... I love the movie, but I'm not like quotable level love, you know? Yeah. Question number eight to Rian Fran. It is still...

three nothing and this is shout out danielle from sioux falls south dakota what was the name of the debut album released by billy eilish in 2019 this is her this is our question her debut album in 2019 i don't know it's whatever ocean eyes was on it wasn't called ocean eyes was it no when uh when we fall asleep where do we go

I like that. Three seconds. Okay, that's my guess. Correct. Nice. And Ocean Eyes wasn't on that one. That was like an EP. Oh, yeah. So this was like a first help. That's why I got confused in my head and then I... Okay, four nothing. I have faith in Grace and Carly. Question number nine to them. Shout out Lucy from San Diego. What season of American Horror Story did Adam Levine appear on? Um...

I remember because he was in the beginning of one of the scenes. It wasn't the first. Was it the first one? I have never watched American Horse. I know exactly that it is. He's only in it for the first 15 minutes and they both get killed. Spoiler! Spoiler, he does not make it. Oh my gosh. Five seconds. The hotel.

Just throw them out there. Asylum. Final answer. Season 2. Correct. Nice. And you got the theme. I was going to just take the number. I was...

sickly obsessed with Asylum when it came out. Like, oh my God. Like, I was so obsessed with that season of American Horror Story. Woo! I've never watched it. It kind of reminds me. I might want to re-watch it. Murder House and Asylum are both really, really good. Like, I couldn't even tell you. Circus, pretty good. I kind of fell off when it got to Hotel. Coven was my favorite. Oh, Coven I did not watch. Or actually, maybe I did. It's so scary.

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We got Sandler, we got Sandberg. Oh, that's my boy?

No, is Andy Samberg not in that? What's the one? Or is it? I don't know. That's definitely Andy Samberg. That's definitely Adam Sandler. I'm going to go That's My Boy. Final answer. Correct. I actually have never seen that movie. Matt fucking loves that movie. And also because they recently...

The guys here are doing a thing where they watch a movie every week and they talk about it privately. It's not even a public thing. Wait, wait, what? How do I get in on this? You gotta ask them. It's literally not a public thing. It's just to like sit at their desk to talk about it. And the first one they did. It's basically movie club. Yeah, it is. That's so funny. Like movies they've already watched. Well, somebody picks a movie to tell. So it's movie club. Yeah. So they, so the first one was that's my boy. Yeah. Yeah.

You can get in on it. That's so funny. I asked them, I said, this isn't like a public content thing you're doing? They said, no, no. Just pals talking about movies. Yeah, we're just talking movies. Okay, five, one, question number 11 to Grace and Carly. Shout out Christine from Huntington, Long Island. In the movie Couples Retreat, Shane is recently divorced, so he brings his 20-year-old girlfriend. What is her name? I don't know this movie. No? Um...

thinking of like young girlfriends i don't know like sasha or like uh i thought like leila sure i don't really know i'll be guessing anyways leila final answer incorrect but like i i want to go roxy but that feels too obvious and i think maybe i'm just guessing that but then i'm also thinking tony but i think that might be i don't know let's just go roxy do it roxy

Incorrect. Trudy. Trudy. Oh, I love your body, Trudy. Yes. Mitchell says that line all the time. Yeah, I was... Yeah.

Tony and Roxy combined. I can't really say I've seen Couples Retreat in its entirety. What? You just admit that now? Like bits and pieces, yeah. What? I don't think I've sat down and watched it start. You would love it. I know. You would. Wow. I know all the lines because Joe says them all the time too. You would love Couples Retreat. Damn, all this time I talk about Couples Retreat and she just admits now? No, it's wild. Yeah, wild. Okay, it's 5-1-2.

Grace and Carly are going to have to get the remaining questions right to send us to overtime, which is possible. Okay, so this is to Rianne Fran. Shout out Ashton from Chicago. In the movie Wicked, what is the name of the head of the flying monkeys, the lead monkey? Good question. I just watched it on the plane home from Arizona. Great plane movie, by the way. Now it's on the planes. I actually...

Disagree with that. But we can talk about that at a later date. I'm not going to remember it. Me either. Okay, the Carly and Grace. Okay, it starts with like a CH. It's like Chester or like... It's like somewhere in that... Cheslow? It's somewhere like around there. Do you want to go Chester? I don't know it. Chester does not seem right though. Ten seconds. Um...

You said Cheslow was another? Yeah, it's CH something. I'm going to go Chester.

Chistory? Chistory. You were on the right path. Dang, so close. You were. You got that C-H. Yeah, that does heal the victory for Ray and Fran. Sorry. Didn't mean to celebrate in your face like that. How obnoxious of me. Okay, question number 13 to Carly and Gray. Shout out Kelly from Atlanta and Marita from Nashville. Name what song this Taylor Swift lyric is from.

You swore that you loved me, but where were the clues? I died on the altar waiting for the proof. This would definitely be more you than me. No, gosh, no. Can you repeat the line? You swore that you loved me, but where were the clues? I died on the altar waiting for the proof. I have no earthly idea. I'm just going to say champagne problems. Incorrect. Is it So Long London? Maybe. Maybe.

So long, London. Final answer. Correct. Nice. Wow. That may be the first lyric question I've ever gotten. Honestly, that may be the first one I've ever gotten right. Very impressed. Very impressed. Okay. 6-1, Rianne Fran. This is question number 14. Shout out, Allie from Rhode Island. This is to them. In Friends, which girlfriend does Ross meet at Monica and Chandler's wedding?

Julie? No, Monica and Chandler. Wait, say it again? In France, which girlfriend does Ross meet at Monica and Chandler's wedding? Oh, the one that loves dinosaurs. No? I don't know. The one that's also a paleontologist? Fuck! What's her name? I don't know her name. Yeah, I don't know. 15 seconds. Is it Robin? No. Samantha? Sarah? Five seconds. Let's go Robin. Final answer. Incorrect.

To Carly and Chris. No. Yeah, I don't even know. Tammy? I don't know. Like, let's just go Rebecca. Why not? I like that. Incorrect. Mona. Sure. Sure. That doesn't ring any bells. No. No. Oh.

That's not the paleontologist one. Yeah. Wait, what? No, the one Mona's not the one I was thinking. Oh, okay. Six one final question. This is to Carly and Grace. Shout out Michaela from Newton, Massachusetts. What was the name of Khloe Kardashian's own show that ran on E from 2017 to 2019? Do you watch it? No, it's been a while. I used to watch it in college. So that's how Brighton that was running. But yeah,

I want to say it was like growing up hard at like 10 seconds growing up Chloe or I don't know that could be way off your guess is better than mine I'm gonna say like growing up Chloe final answer incorrect but that's a good name what year did you say 2017 to 2019 her own show yeah is this Revenge Body yeah yeah right because it's the only one that she does by herself yeah

Yeah, Revenge Body, final answer. Correct. Yeah. Nice. Now she's always paired with somebody else. Courtney or Lamar. Exactly, her own show. Okay, 7-1, final score. At least you guys got on the board. You got one. That American Horror Story. And you got the wedding question. The wedding planner. There you go. Thank you guys so much for playing. Huge congratulations. We hope you have the

best weekend. Have the best weekend ever. Thank you. Soak it all in. You both have stunning hair, by the way. Yes, I was going to say that at the start of the show. Gorgeous. Gorgeous hair. And you know, this isn't as exciting, but you still get merch. Yes. If you send Noah your address and sizes, we'll get that sent to you. So thank you guys. Thanks, guys. Bye. Bye. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Unfortunately, no episode on Monday of The Best Show on Earth, but

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