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Just before midnight on May 10th, 1986, 17-year-old Kimberly Moreau walked out the door of her home in J. Maine, never to be seen again. I personally was the last family member to talk to Kim.
And I have thought, why didn't I pay more attention? Why didn't I sit on her and just keep her home? Why didn't I step up or know the difference? That would be it. What were the last words I said to her? I wish we could go back in time and change a day. May 10th, 1986 would be that day for me.
With another anniversary of that dark day approaching, the Moreau family is still searching for answers. But with all that's changed in the case since we last spoke, her sisters and father are more hopeful than ever that this could be the year it all comes to an end. I'm Kylie Lowe, and this is an update for the case of Kimberly Moreau on Dark Down East.
This year, 2025, marks 39 years that the family of Kimberly Moreau has been searching for answers. No matter how much time has passed, their minds and hearts always come back to the same night.
Every day I go to the post office. I go there every day hoping and praying that we finally get an envelope that gives us very precise directions to where we can get him, where we can find her remains and bring her home. It's been 39 years now. It will be on May 10th. 39 years. And it seems like it just started yesterday.
I've spent a lot of time with the Moreau family since we first met in the spring of 2021. I've covered Kim's case in a two-part series here on Dark Down East, and I recommend starting there before continuing with this update episode. I'll link everything on the website and in the show description for you, but if it's been a while since you've heard the details of Kim's case, here is what we know from the man who has been telling her story now for almost four decades. Her father, Richard Moreau.
On May 10th, 1986, Kim went out with three other people. She left the house with Rhonda Breton, who is now deceased. They walked down to L'Amour Falls and they were down there by the park and they see a brand new guy go by. It was supposed to be the night of Kim's high school junior prom, but she decided not to go.
She and her boyfriend had gotten into a fight the day before, so Kim called off their prom plans in favor of hanging out with Rhonda and seeing where the night took them. They were hanging out in a park when a white Pontiac Trans Am drove up. It belonged to 25-year-old Darren Jodry. The other person in the car that night was Brian Edmund.
As far as the Moreaus know, Kim and Rhonda rode around with Brian and Darren that night, possibly drinking, maybe drugs were somewhere in the mix. It's believed they made other stops and saw other people over the course of the evening too. What's known for sure is that Kim arrived back home later that night. About 20 minutes of 11 that night, they pulled into the driveway over at our house on Jewel Street. And Kim got out of the car, came in the house,
Brought her jacket, brought her purse and everything, and went in. Karen was there. She told Karen that she was going to leave the house and go for a ride, and she'd be back in an hour. She left the house just about 11 o'clock, and that's the last time we ever saw her.
When Mr. Moreau spoke to Brian Edmond himself about that night, Brian claimed he later dropped Kim off about a half mile down the street from her house. He said that Kim was upset about the argument with her boyfriend so she wanted to walk the rest of the way home. Mr. Moreau didn't believe that story when he first heard it from Brian's own mouth and he still doesn't believe it now.
As of this episode's recording, Brian Enman and Darren Joudry have not been charged with any crimes as it relates to Kim's disappearance. No one has. But the Moreau family has held firm in their suspicion that these two men, and those close to the two men, have more information about what happened on the night of May 10th, 1986.
An arrest and charges and prosecution is secondary to the Moreau family's ultimate goal. They just want to bring Kim home. Mr. Moreau, along with Kim's sisters, Diane and Karen, have spent years running down their own leads, conducting independent searches, and trying unique strategies to generate new information in Kim's case. Since you last heard from the Moreaus on Dark Down East, they've rented a box at the local post office.
Anyone with information about Kim or the location of her remains can send a letter to Kim's Justice at P.O. Box No. 2, J. Main, 04239.
One of the original methods they've used to keep Kim's name and face in the public eye are posters affixed to telephone poles along the streets in Jay, Livermore Falls, and surrounding communities. In fact, those posters kept Kim's case top of mind for the new primary detective on her case, long before he was even assigned.
I'm Detective Mike Fitzmaurice, the state police. I came over from the Oxford County Sheriff's Office to the Maine State Police in 2023. I was promoted to detective in December of 2024. And I got a call this past January from my sergeant who simply asked me if I was familiar with Kim Moreau.
When I worked at the sheriff's office, I patrolled the Canton, Peru area for pretty much my whole career over there. So I had seen the posters. And I think when you're in that area, it's one of those things. Yeah, of course, I know who she is. And I get the, well, congratulations, you're the new primary on the case. Can we just recognize for a second the power of an eight and a half by 11 inch piece of paper paired with some brightly colored tape? Mr. Moreau has been putting those posters up for decades now.
At first, they were one of the most accessible tools for him given he worked at the old paper mill. Now, they're an ever-present symbol of the family's dedication to finding Kim. Friends and family join Mr. Moreau in the annual pilgrimage to the telephone poles to replace what's been damaged by time and weather and the ones that have been intentionally torn down because that's happening too.
There's significant expense and physical effort required to get the posters up year after year. But he keeps doing it. He'll do anything to make sure his daughter is not forgotten. Also overseeing Kim's case is Detective Corporal Michael Chavez with the Maine State Police Unsolved Homicide Unit.
I've been interacting with the family for a long time, and one of the things I've realized is that their social footprint is immense. They are active on social media. They have P.O. boxes. They have regular mail. They utilize and leverage traditional media. They have folks in the community that deeply care about Kim's return. And so they get a lot of information that doesn't come across our desk that often. So we're working hand-in-hand with them as much as we can to cultivate and investigate the information that they give us.
The conversations on and off record that day had an entirely different tone from all my previous meetings with the Moreau family. Even with the emotional moments and the tears that always come when the Moreaus reflect on everything they've been through, there was an undeniable optimism in the room coming from all sides of the table. And now we're very fortunate to have these two detectives that are sitting with us right now working this case together.
I feel a lot more confident with these two gentlemen that we have one of the best opportunities that we may ever have of bringing her home. There was even some laughter. If you ever told me I was going to spend this much time with detectives, I would have looked at you and said, you must be locking me up. My wife today, when we get a call from the police stationed up in the town of Jay, get a call from the new chief.
One thing hasn't changed since we last heard from the Moreaus on this podcast. Their spirit and their hope. But a lot has changed in the investigation. Searches, deaths, discoveries, psychics. Let's get into it.
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The search location was behind an ice cream stand called Jimmy's, and bystanders said that detectives seemed to be most focused on two rusted Volkswagen Beetles believed to have been in that very spot for years. As far as the Moreau family knows, the search did not lead to any evidence or information relating to Kim's case.
Detectives Chavez and Fitzmaurice could not comment on the specifics of that search. However, they did allude to more searches in the coming months.
Mainstay Police has been part of lots of searches in the area over the past number of years with human remains dogs and ground penetrating radar, ground searches, metal detecting. And we're making a transition into some new areas this year, which I can't talk about, but it's some exciting things on the radar that we're hoping to undertake that are exciting for us and the family, I think.
Now, the town of Mexico has come up in past tips, besides the one that led Maine State Police to search the rusted-out cars behind an ice cream stand there. It also happens to be the town where Darren Chaudry was living as of 2023 and 2024.
According to Bruce Farren's reporting for the Rumford Falls Times, Darren, his girlfriend, his girlfriend's daughter, and a dog were all displaced from their home in Mexico in September of 2023 when a grease fire caused extensive damage to the house. Darren and the other residents all escaped uninjured, including the dog. A little less than a year later, Darren was still living in the town of Mexico when he died suddenly on August 9th, 2024.
In long-standing cold cases, time can be the enemy in so many ways. No doubt the original investigation lacked resources and technology that would have been available in more recent years, but time can sometimes be an asset too. Relationships change, allegiances dissolve, deaths among witnesses can eliminate the possible fear of coming forward with information.
That last one is one of the first things that came to mind for Kim's sister, Diane. Well, our first thoughts were, he's passed away. The other person that was with him at the time, we would like you to come forward now because you don't have to be afraid of him anymore. He's not here. So why can't you just come forward and give us the information that we've always asked for?
For Mr. Moreau, he hopes whatever Darren might have known about Kim's disappearance, that he didn't take it with him when he died. I'll come right out and say it. The people that was with Darren Jodry before he died, there's two people I know of that were with him. He had to say something. Come out and let us know. Maybe that'll be the answer. I don't know. But please, whatever you do, give us that information. Let's end it.
While the detectives would not address these things specifically, it's an obvious investigative angle they aren't ignoring.
So when you take a case of this age or older, there's that pressure for the suspect, perhaps, or the person that has information. There's those deathbed confessions. I can't meet my maker without telling somebody about something. So that certainly comes into play in this case and others. We've had a couple deaths over the years, and we haven't had that deathbed confession, but it's our hope that someone will reflect upon their life and do the right thing out of
A willingness to clear their conscience and come forward with that piece of information that Mr. Moreau was talking about that can just lead us specifically to the spot where Kim's remains are. That's best case scenario for the family. And we're waiting for that moment. A few months later in October of 2024, as Kim's family waited and hoped that time would for once be their friend, Mr. Moreau answered a phone call from a woman who has been assisting his search efforts behind the scenes for many years.
It had been a while since he'd heard from her. This past fall, I got a phone call because I hadn't talked to her in almost a year. And she says, isn't there a bowling alley up near your house? I says, yes. She says, we've got to go there. When can we go? I says, when can you be here? What happened next stretched the beliefs of everyone who ever hoped for answers in Kim's case.
Maybe those answers could be found in the supernatural. People call me a psychic medium. Basically, I'm a person that can communicate with people who have passed on into the spiritual world. I didn't start out that way. I had a pretty normal life. That's Laurencia Bourget.
When Laurencia moved from Massachusetts back to Maine with her family over two decades ago, her pretty normal life changed. She started noticing things. When a photo of her late father-in-law fell off the wall in the middle of the night, and she unexpectedly received a photo of her own late father from a family member days later, she felt it was a sign, a message from her dad.
Her first encounter with Kimberly Moreau's name and face was by chance. She was driving through the town of Jay back in 2004 and saw the posters.
We were driving through Main Street and I had noticed the pictures of Kimberly on the telephone poles. And I said, pull over, I want to see what that is. And I, you know, I read the poster and I was just immediately drawn in. Since that night with the picture falling off the wall, Laurencia had nurtured her abilities. She learned how to use a dousing pendulum and was leaning into the signs and spirit communication around her.
After seeing Kim's posters, she turned to the internet, which was very young at the time, to learn everything she could about Kim's case. And then she tuned in to Spirit Communication. I was asking questions and I started asking questions about Kim and what happened. And then I just decided to call Richard because he had this number on the internet. And I called him and I told him things I got and he was really open-minded to it and things resonated with him.
She eventually met with Mr. Moreau at his home, and the very same day, they went out to conduct their first search together. Laurencia admits that at the time she didn't have the training or experience to be out in the woods looking for human remains, not yet. As she became more invested in Kim's story and helping the Moreau family and others who had missing loved ones, Laurencia also invested her time and energy into getting the appropriate training.
While she offers paid readings through her website now, the searches she does with the families of missing people are unpaid. All the searches I do are volunteer. I don't charge for any groundwork I do. Over the coming years, Laurencia and the Moreau family conducted searches together based on spirit communications she received. One day, in the fall of 2024, when she least expected it, Laurencia received a new message.
And I was watching TV and I happened to be watching Psychic Investigators. I randomly heard bowling alley. I'm like, that's weird. So I knew that was a sign from spirit about the bowling alley that was in J. Maine. That coming weekend, Mr. Moreau, Laurencia, and a family friend who often helps with searches, hopped into Mr. Moreau's truck for the very short ride over to the bowling alley.
The business has long since closed. Most of the paint on the cement block exterior is peeling, and rust stains dripping from the roof discolor what's not with burnt orange streaks. A faded sign in the gravel and grass parking lot warns trespassers to keep out, but at one time, this place was the spot local kids like the Moreaus loved to hang out. Laurencia felt pulled to that place. She could not ignore the very specific message she received.
So, Mr. Moreau sought landowner permission to search the wooded lot behind the bowling alley and into the woods they went. Laurencia and the family friend started searching while Mr. Moreau waited by his truck. The physical strain of trekking through the wilderness isn't as easy on him these days, but he almost always drives the searchers around to different locations and stays close by, just in case. I no sooner get back to my truck than I get a hauler.
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And 30 seconds later, I saw a flashlight, and I just picked it up to see if it was working, and it wasn't. I put it back down, and then when I did, I noticed a boot. And then I looked to my left, and that's when I saw the remains. I went up there, and there was a body. Mr. Moreau could see a pelvis bone, an ulnar, a hand. The remains were skeletal. The body was still clothed in at least a jacket and boots.
So at that point, that's when we had three of us on the phone calling. And we're getting in touch with everybody. And first we called the locals, got them down there, and then we were in touch with Mike, letting him know. When Mr. Moreau called me on that Saturday, I could hear the tension and tension.
The bridled excitement in his voice, he was stressed and upset and excited, all wrapped up in one. And when he told me that a psychic had reached out to him and said, I need to go here, there's a body, and then there was a body there, I had some mixed thoughts. I just couldn't reconcile that somebody could just be so either insightful or have that, I don't even know how to describe it,
that psychic ability to put a finger on a map or have a calling to be pulled to an area. Some could say that it was coincidental. Some could say that maybe that person did some research. I have no explanation at all as to what happened, except that the results were they recovered a body that day. As state and local authorities arrived at the scene and placed their yellow tape around the perimeter, the Moreau family waited on the other side.
Kim's sisters, Karen and Diane, were there watching the investigators work, and memories of their childhood at the bowling alley played in their minds. And the sad part is, is that it was a location so close to home, and me and Kim and the family used to go there and bowl. It was within walking distance of our house that we grew up in.
We were always there. All your friends would hang out there. So it was something that every weekend you went to. Our town is small. We didn't have a lot of things for kids to do. So it was something that we always did. So for it to be found there, it was, you really, really believed that it could be your loved one. Kim's family was once again teetering on the heartbreaking ledge of hope and uncertainty. I was very hopeful, even though I was very doubtful.
Because I've learned, do not get your hopes up too high. Because if you do, you could get crushed and crushed real bad. I was out four-wheeling that day when I got the call from Diane saying, sit down. I got some news and there were remains found in Jay at the bowling alley. And my heart sank. And I prayed it was Kim.
I just want it to end. Though it would take months to conclusively determine the identity, an anthropologist at the scene delivered the news. It wasn't Kim. We found that body there, which turned out to be a male. But we found it. And people from all around that area say, how the heck, how did we ever miss that? I says, that goes to show you how easy it is.
We're very sad that it wasn't our sister, but we're very glad that we could bring somebody else's loved one home. Laurencia the psychic received a lot of press for her part in this discovery, both good and bad. The comment threads on local and national news stories could be harsh at times, accusing her of somehow being involved in placing that body in the woods. To be clear, there is nothing to suggest Laurencia orchestrated this discovery in any way.
The remains were identified as 54-year-old Victor C. Prybanek Jr., and his death is not considered suspicious. So it was hard. I felt really bad. It's hard not to take a little responsibility of we're out there looking for Kim, and it ends up being someone else, which I'm grateful if another family got to have answers about their missing loved one, but I feel bad, you know? I almost want to cry. I want so much to help find Kim. I only get the information I get
I can't change that. Kim's family has received countless tips from psychics over the years, not just Laurencia. And it's not just Kim's case that sees tips come in from individuals with unexplainable abilities. I don't know. We've got tons of psychics that have given us information over the years. Some of them seem credible. And on the other end of that spectrum, though, is...
More of the obscene, where the trees are talking to people and giving them guidance. And they had bad indigestion and had a dream, and now they want to search this location. I don't mean to minimize or play at that, but we try to prioritize information as it comes in. And if it seems likely or plausible, then we won't exclude it.
The Moreau family acts as a filter for much of the information and tips and leads they receive from any source. They funnel what seems likely and plausible to Maine State Police, and same as with the search guided by Laurencia's abilities, they follow up on many tips themselves. They've become experts in trusting their gut. And it's a really good thing they went with their gut on this because whatever you believe, the fact remains.
If Mr. Moreau hadn't done that search, that would be one more missing person that nobody knew about. The search for answers continues. The investigation is as active as ever, both from the family's side and in terms of the law enforcement effort. Detective Fitzmaurice has started from square one.
We are out there talking to people. We're knocking on doors. We're getting different names and leads every day that we're tracking down. But don't just assume that we know the information that you might have or just because someone talked to you back in 1986 or 87 or anywhere in between then and now. Don't just assume that I have that information. So reach out. We'll come talk to you personally. I'll call you on the phone, whatever it is. But reach out and give us that information. Don't just assume that we already have it and that we already know.
A key witness is dead, but the other person who has admitted to being with Kim on the night she disappeared, who claims to have dropped her off in the dark to walk home alone, he is still alive. Searches 10 years ago now with cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar at and near property owned by Brian Enman did not lead to evidence of Kim Morrow's whereabouts. Brian has denied involvement in her disappearance.
I've tried calling all the numbers I could find for Brian, but did not get through to anyone for this episode. As for the other individuals who have long been associated with this case, including Calvin Tidswell, and again, if you've listened to parts 1 and 2 of Kim's story on Dark Down East, you'll know the context of this person. Kim's family still believes he and others know more than they have previously disclosed.
So they'll continue to piece this together with information from psychic and civilian alike until they know where to find their sister and daughter. Like I've always said, we're on a 10,000 piece puzzle and I think we're down to the, we're getting down to the last few. So all we need is somebody to come forward now.
their plea remains the same. And if this reaches those who still have information that could help bring Kim home, I want you to hear these words loud and clear. Someday I'm going to have an answer. And I truly believe that Kim looks down on us and she knows we're trying, but we need a little help. And the help's out there. Give it to us. We definitely do know
There are people that has the answers. We are begging you, please give us the answers we're looking for. I don't care how you do it. We've given you multiple ways of doing it. Get us that answer and please let us bring Kim home. I want it for all of us. I want it for communities. I want it for anybody that's ever cared that she is missing. She was a person.
No person deserves to be put somewhere and just left there. And think about it, if it was one of your own, what would you feel like? And that's the closest I can give you to it. No family should have to go through what ours has. Mr. Moreau will be 83 years old this June of 2025. He made promises to Kim's late mother, to the rest of their family, that he would never quit.
He continues to make good on his promises, but he knows he's not getting any younger. He deserves, they all deserve, the peace that will come when Kim is finally home. Give us Kim. We get her home. Upon verification, it's her. It's over for us. Then we just go down and put her down on her grave site, right side of her mother. And then I get the pleasure of doing one thing. Go and take down all the posters that's up of Kim.
And I got a lot of them out there. The posters remain a symbol of Kim's case. But let it be remembered that behind the poster is a person and a family who loves her. People can go by and look at the telephone poles and see the posters and come into where we work and tell us you care. And it's a poster, but it's my sister. It's a person I grew up with and...
That was part of me. I've never thought that Kim's walking back into our lives. Never thought that she was a runaway. But it does hurt year after year of saying another birthday, another Christmas, another anniversary. And the worst anniversary is coming up May 10th. I hate that day.
May 10th happened to be my first Mother's Day, and it hurt because I wanted to celebrate being a mother, but I lost my sister on that day. And no matter what, she's out there, and somebody could end it for us, and we hope today's the day.
If you have information relating to the 1986 disappearance of Kimberly Moreau, there are a number of ways you can share that information. And I hope that you are compelled to do that. You can send a letter to Kim's Justice, P.O. Box No. 2, J. Main, 04239.
You can send an email to justwanttofindher at gmail.com. You can call the Maine State Police Major Crimes Unit South at 207-624-7076, extension 9. Or you can submit an anonymous tip via the form linked in the description of this episode. As far as I'm concerned, everybody's going to have to answer for what's going on when they stand in front of the law and say,
I don't want to see anybody else hurt. There's been so much hurt now. Just bring it home. Thank you for listening to Dark Down East. You can find all source material for this case at darkdowneast.com. Be sure to follow the show on Instagram at darkdowneast. This platform is for the families and friends who have lost their loved ones and for those who are still searching for answers. I'm not about to let those names or their stories get lost with time.
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