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The drive from denver to Christ stone is beautiful, a four more scene, a group, compared to my drive from a lena to osler. On the way to cry stone, you curve around mountain sites and dip in the valleys, passing by a series of ranches and small former mining towns. Picture risk but tired.
As you approach the song grade to cryo range of the rockies, it's wide open sky, wide open road.
just mountains.
Once you hit the small town of marit, you turn left on the colorado road tea. At the end of that road there's .
Christon people who come to crestone our dreamers. Their dreams would cost money to come to fruition, and no one here has any money. But that doesn't stop them from dreaming.
Economically, this place has struggled since the mines gave out a hundred and ten years ago. Now flash forward one hundred and ten years, there are very few colorado towns left the light close home. I have been here full time since two thousand.
So eighteen years there is low level crime. People don't walk their doors here. We police ourselves, and everybody understands this.
I haven't been in a city for so long. I don't know what people think is an average out of crime. You know, I in my house, I don't like the house.
There is no police presence in this town. The closest policemen, when you pick up a phone and down nine one one is in swatch, a forty five minute drive away. So for the first forty five minutes of your dealing with some nutcase, you're on your own.
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In this museum, time stops, history stops in ninety eighty one.
This is jim mccain who dedicates his time to preserving Crystal's past at the one and only Crystal history center.
They're not interested in the money story. The story they are interested in is from nineteen eighty one to present, how did this thing turn into a spiritual al center? Um where is this woman like this season? Blue hana strong did IT.
I am convinced that the profits of doom have got to be taken serious. In other words, doom s day is a possibility, and equally convents, the doom day .
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This is very strong. Husband of hands on a canadian business man in former member of the united nations in the late seventies, crestone was merely just a ghost town. But hanna mari strong had a remarkable vision for IT.
Today, man's own activities have reached the scale where they are the principal determined of his own future. We are now affecting more changes in the composition of the atmosphere, in the composition of the waters of the world, the natural world, world in which man lives in, on which week he depends, is indeed deteriorating, is being destroyed. In many instances, whether we are pessimistic or optimistic depends really on what we think about the nature man. Whether we really believe that man, in light of the woman, is going to be wide enough and invocation enough to project himself to this kind of discipline and control.
Hanna har strong purchase thousands of acres throughout the sand lowe valley outside crestone in establishing area called the bucker grand day, with a grand vision in mind to create one of the largest interfaith communities in the world.
Hana strong .
granted over two thousand acres the various spiritual environmental groups, making IT the largest of its .
kind in north america.
Today, question consists of over fifteen different spirit. Al signers.
I have seen a lot of the planet. I come back home and I compared the places that i've been to to this place. And this place always comes out on top, so i'm not likely to move. The bar is set .
kind of high.
This is a world class place that nobody knows about.
Around nineteen hundred, crestone hits mining boom, but the resources were limited in the boom, subside quickly, dropping Crystal into a long stretch of economic decline.
When I moved to colorado in one thousand hundred and seventy two, there were a lot of times like this. There aren't anymore by default. This town is now unique.
According to the U. S. Census, the town proper has a total area of point two square miles.
There are very few employers here. The hardware stores want that. Grocery stores another, you're not going to get rich, but you can live pretty cheap this out.
Most people that identify with crestone don't actually live in town. They live in the Baker, the vast surroundings, residential area. I've never seen houses like the ones in the baka earth.
Ships dons lots of geometric shapes. There's no building code. The homes here certainly reflect their .
inhabitants.
Sometimes the characters that show up here you go um first of all, you can tell they're not here long term and then you hope they don't do too much damage while they are here, but all sorts of lose people in society kind of the shake. If you are to shake down a bunch of doping, the stems and seeds were you fall into a little crack, those of the people, the stems and seeds of society.
Just outside the town, along the highway, is a tall watch tower overlooking the valley.
When I first looked dead and I thought, oh.
that's a big White bird.
Then my brain kicked in and went, wait a minute, that's forty thousand miles away. That's nod. So I watched IT for two to three minutes. Then I started to blink IT stropped, and was gone.
I saw one sheep that was a around chep being chased by a jet, and another one was just sitting in the sky, was blinking different colors. And i'm looking at IT on and all of the senate goods. About a quarter of way to cross the sky comes to a dead stop when make and stop or make sharp angle turns, that's a dead give away right there. That is .
a UFO.
Welcome to the u of watch tower. They're been documented sightings here in this valley since the fifteen sixteen. The con keys to doors actually wrote in their journals about the strange .
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it's really, really cool. Since study opened in two thousand, we've had one hundred and fifty seven documented sightings. That's not counting sightings that people have had that .
have not write them down .
for us duty in twenty seven. I've seen fourteen. The native americans considered this a sacred valley, and IT is its filled .
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delightful little guard out there since study open. They're been over twenty five psyches. You've told her the same thing.
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We want to do whatever we have to do within the legal means of finding the people. Creston is remote and .
even though it's four hours away, rodney is determining answers for his family.
You know, the people that i've talked to their keep in this alive, it's going to be lighting a fuse and that moving, keeping the story alive and put in pressure on people.
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Rodney, a guy who he spent fifteen years trying to help Crystal in every way he could like a second dot. And I know that guy lays awake at night wondering if you could have done things differently so that he would have been in different place and maybe not put herself in danger if he did that night. In every time I talk to me is got this guilt about IT. And I have to keep reminding him, there aren't a fraction, a small percentage, of people in this world who would take in a teenage stranger to help them out of an awful life circumstances need more of him in this world. When IT comes to getting this solved, I think he literally would sell every possession he had if he knew I would bring her home.
This is Chris. Holding again from fox, started, won denver.
IT is amazing. The number of people who don't pay attention to anything, it's incredible. Small town like that. I can imagine that a lot of a trilling through their own social media accounts every day, ten times.
I do you know there's a TV station that they can get if they don't have some kind of satellite. I think they move there for a simpler life. A lot of people to get away from all that chaos of the news.
So more important than ever to have that flying in a picture up, people talking about IT. Because the only way you get news there might be to encounter somebody also who tells you that news, and that might be what IT takes. There are people in town who don't want this solved, and we don't know other models, so you have to be open to them.
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There is a sense of willing, you know, I kind like that almost so makes me feel like a cowboy.
This is David, a long time Christon resident .
rocking mountain high. John denver was singing about the rocky mountain high. You know, what he was relating to, I think, was just the quality of what it's like to be out where these big mountains and big sky and lot of room around you, there's just not that many people.
The guys are the darkest, one of the darkest places in the country. If you look there, just no big cities nearby. And we can see all the stars, all the stars at night having the mountain lines out your back door and bears. And, oh my, yeah, it's good.
David told me that the wildlife here was abundant and sometimes even dangerous.
I am face to face with the mount line. I was peering into the flag depth of this darkness in the back of the cave, and in two eyes just came toward me. I had my umbrella ready to protect myself and my friends.
And yeah, an umbrella, because I had, you have a button, and if you just pushed the button, IT pops up at bar. And you, I saw on some movie, and I knew that, you know, if you tag me, I got scared at with the umbrella and probably get away. And anyway, I got out of the Kevin, all the people I was a worth, I told him, become, just move away slowly.
And five people running down the mountain, running down the mountain. Oh, my god. So I ran to.
The mountain line is usually steer clear of people unless you're wandering around in a cave, but some of the animals often find their way in the town and cause the services the bears.
the bears we deal with the most. They know what refrigerators look like if they see refrigerator in your house, say they'll break open a window, get in and open a fridge and eat everything, eat your frozen food, bust down your cabinet and eating nuts is crazy. Coyotes, coyotes, only to everything. Bob s this very dynamic place, because the animals are in our faces.
Recently, one of Davids friends had a frighting encounter with a bear.
yeah. He left some food or car, and a bear came up and fumbled with the door and managed to open the car to work, and crawled into the car door, clothes locked behind the bear. IT couldn't get out.
He ate her car. He ates her car, destroyed her car from the inside out, eight to steam. Well off at the dashboard.
Shred of the seats. Shred ded everything. SHE found a aging bear inside of her car, eating her car. SHE lost that vehicle who was done? They said we can fix this.
And once I was here.
I couldn't go back to the big city. Life is like that. I don't know the valley. It's pretty magical. It's quite a mix of people all age groups. Of course, in a lot of the older people actually, I think, came here for spiritual pursuits. A lot of the religion seem to be open to other people too. IT seems like I like IT because it's not so were where the ones and you're not you know, everybody seems to accept one another, which is nice, just the presence of the place, you know, the quality of the land in the sky and vast ness in the sky. Yeah, you know, many of our spiritual traditions that use the vastness of the sky is like A A reference point for for mind.
In recent years, cryo seen its fair share of newcomers.
A lot of Young people to come now. And well, like anywhere else, there's drug people and there's crazy people. But you know, for the most part, I think I was fairly unified community, being awake, you know, being kind person, not being sectarian, not being radical. Although we do recycle.
I asked David how the community feels about Crystals unsolved disappearance.
I mean, it's really terrible because everybody knows about IT and kind of hard to live with. We're we're just not that kind of place. You know, it's like everybody is welcome here and people aren't generally disappearing and people are not settled with IT not okay that SHE disappeared and going on two years, I guess.
And you know, people still talk, people are hurt this. And did you hear that? And all these kind of notions about what might have happened to her.
And some people think maybe he just went, some maybe SHE went to a different country or something like that, you know, but then know other people think, you know, he might got mixed up in a bad element, or that he might have met the wrong people. And nobody knows what i've is, awful lot of of its speculation or things that people actually heard. No one really knows what happened to Crystal.
We want to know. We all want to know. Person can only disappear on account of some wrong doing by the wrong people. We are community of mixed people and there's there's bad eggs and there there's bad ages, and we know IT.
Within my first few days in Crystal, I definitely met my fair share of interesting people, but no one seemed to know any details about Crystal. I reach out of the watch and share of apartment.
whose in charge the case, then watch county. I am the the chief law enforcement official in the country. And that's really what the job is, is making sure that people's rights are not violated. Their safety is priority over anything else, making sure the public in these communities is safe. The county itself is right around thirty two hundred square miles, so it's a very large county .
cover gym. Ca lin, from the cristal museum that expressed that Christine was a place that police themselves. I asked a share of about this.
not taking people dragon him down the street and you're going to clean this yard for community service. That's not what we mean by police themselves. They actually tried to work IT out among themselves.
Do IT in a peaceful way, talk to each other about you come from the door on a grab, john y by the head. And every boy and called parents. Parents come in.
They deal with a lot times. Kids, i'll have to do some community service for the store owner. That does happen here quite often, which does, okay.
Yeah, I mean, here in my day, that was a way that I got handled quite often. If the store owner would to whip your bt for IT too great. When you get home, you're still gonna whip by your parents and you're still gonna the things the store owner expected. The majority of the people up here, I think, are very good people came up here for the peace and tranquility of this area.
But we do have, i'm going to say, the trust fund kids and things I get that i've come up here that are not responsible that mommy and daddy didn't want them around them because there's such a pain in their as so they sent him down here for everybody else to deal with. I blame the parents of a lot of these kids. Quit enabling your children to be trash.
You know, your kids are using drugs and .
everything else, but you still funding money to buying them their house and pay in their bills. Knock IT off, make these kids grow up and get alive. The people up here are here because they paid their way.
Here they are. Enjoy the area. They love the beauty of the area, and they're destroying IT.
IT seemed like that was making a public service announcement to a particular group of people in town, but he referred to as the trust from kids. I asked him about the condition of Crystal apartment after the first .
learned SHE was missing. So one was the fridge was not too far explored, but IT showed that he had recently purchased. That wasn't something that SHE months before. Another night that I was purchased within probably a week of her actual time of coming up missing when you walked .
in her apartment was your first impression of the way, little .
disorganized and things thrown about things like that, little bit of a mess, but not like somebody when in there. And rds act the .
place based on dance. First impression there was no evidence suggesting a struggle, her home and where you go.
you know, a lot of people was step outside, leave cell phone sitting on the table, and no big deal. Other people will decide. I've head IT and just go out the door and go for a high leave.
Everything behind is really individually based. What kind of person is this? In this case, we don't know enough about this person.
Initially, the shares department had difficulty learning more about Crystal's character. People either had few details or just didn't talk at all.
He seemed like he was, I guess, a bit private when IT comes down to some of the things he did with her life. So a lot of people around here that say they know are really well didn't know much about they are. And passing the doctor on the street, we ask around town, and everybody's got a different opinion.
You love the mounts. Hey, where will you go to the matters? We don't know if everyone's trying to claim they know this person so well. Where that was your favorite place in the mountains, nobody knows were literally fmb blind.
How was that known in town was close enough to Crystal to offer more insight. Clearly, these people had to exist somewhere with no signs of foul play in an apartment. One of the first theories was that he went hiking in the .
mountains and had max sy hiker. They're not really missing. They're off trail. We don't know that SHE weren't hiking and got off trail. We don't know this.
She's not a hunter, so we knows he was an out hunting, hiking maybe, but everybody that goes hiking that i've ever known, they take supplies with them. And IT doesn't appear. He took .
anything with her.
As weeks went on, other rumors running, her disappearance began emerging a natal.
A lot of people said that he wanted to follow with the rainbow gathering. And if you know what the rainbow gathering is, is a group of people, they literally go place to place camping and things like that.
According to the unofficial al website for the rainbow gathering that described themselves as, quote, brothers and sisters, children of god, families of life on earth, friends of nature and of all people. Along with that description, I found a slew of articles about the rainbow g gathering, including homicides and missing person's cases, all related to the group's out tings.
Quite a few people have just gotten a van with these guys that were gone to the rainbow gathering, went with them. But then we're like, why wouldn't SHE take herself phone, anything like that? Now, the rainbow gathering, most of them don't take technology with them.
They don't want the phones in all that stuff. They want to be the beaten bad and away from the authorities. More anybody.
I think we asked them to check their camps. Just see if she's there. If so, just tell us yes, at the end of IT. And we're never to get response back from them saying he was there.
So pretty certainly you I wasn't with them, but we also called the enforcement different areas where that gathering was being done, and asked him to jack also never banned out. So we are pretty certain he wasn't there. We don't know enough about her.
I asked to share for your plans .
to go from here is a heavy burden to try to get IT solved. But we need the publicity to do so. In most cases, the public learns more about these cases probably than we do in a lot of times. Everybody on the street will talk to each other when they want to talk to us.
The best way for us to move forward to things as people to come forward and say, I go on any paper, you want any type of afa, David, to get a warrant or do whatever the heck you need to do, be willing to testify in court. That's where we move further with the information. The main goal for us is to keep community safe and to find everything that we need to get closer for the family.
Let's not just let IT become the typical cold case, where is stuck in the file in the back room. And that's where IT sits until something comes up the second day everybody stops s talking about IT. That's when those files go to the back room and not looked at on a regular basis.
I think that needs to be talked about a light and kept in the forefront. I think it's going take the public. I think he takes somebody coming forward with actual correct information, the actual facts of what occurred the night of her disappearance or the day of her disappearance whenever IT may be.
I don't care if it's somebody from the public, if it's you, if it's one of my guys, somebody from another country, I don't care if we get IT solve as the goal. Your story may end up bringing closer to this. That may be the ending that we're looking for. Somebody may come forward with the information that is needed to actually register.
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Friday is friday.
IT was a friday afternoon, and I met back up with David, one of the crestone locals. He invited me to his friend Michael house, and we SAT around sipping his favorite bRandy. And they shoot off .
some of their drums, a doing back. It's a too big, but it's got this. David in his friend Michael .
essentially lead the full moon drum circles in Christa. And they were there that I Crystal vanished.
I was at the drug circle. Yeah, I was. It's such a shame that that was the last time .
that .
pistol was seen because IT was denied the formal and liver a line I .
asked David to describe drum .
circles, IT starts out slow and people start trickling in. And jm bay here and some congres there, few dome bags and shakers. And there's one fellow that shows up with a bag instruments.
And so people that don't have instruments can pick something up and play and got a big fire going. Somebody is inspired. We'll start doing to beat, and everybody else start to seeing how they can fit into IT.
And sometimes somebody says, place guitar sex phones shows up every now. Then since pot is a legal, there's always pot can can go around. And there's really quite lovely, quite lovely about having fun.
When I met drum circles.
i'm just fox on myself, basically in drumming, trying to harmonize with everybody else. And I can miss the little things that are going on just outside of the firelight. One in there have been forty five people, fifty people.
I'm in the center of the circle. And then there's groups of people outside. Just outside is circle, and I did see her .
that night. SHE didn't .
seem right. SHE didn't seem right. I remember that much. SHE seemed distracted. He seemed like he had stuff going on.
But since I really didn't know her personally, I didn't get involved. Asked if everything, anything, was all right. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
So I don't know. Did did he leave there and go back to town? I see that are no idea if SHE left or she's still up in the woods.
And one of the caves are summed up above the drum circle. SHE wasn't joyce. SHE was troubled. That was obvious, so just wasn't like a happy person, you can tell i'm so orrible ed, so ric, ed.
Christal lived in a small appropriate building right in the midnight downtown queston. I met up with her landlord or a mcDonald and SHE walk me onto the property.
So you see the blue Green building right there. Yeah, that's IT.
Redoing the fense, but this was where my daughter and I lived, is right in those french stores. And we had the courtyard to ourselves. And Crystal was at the very end corner on the top. OK.
There's three units downstairs, four upstairs, when he was living here there, knocking out all the walls down there in turning the whole downstairs into a cafe, but he was in two, a one which is just a studio room with a bathroom and kitchen net. And SHE didn't have a new windows on this side. Her closest neighbor was in two or two, which was jermy sharp.
The last time I actually found her in person would have been at the Christan burry I had bought her like, I think two beers of three years is something like that. And we were just talking and making plans to hang out. And the guy, I I was waiting on food and then I want to say I was like two or three days later when I first said he is, but were.
So we shared the foyer SHE had like a studio apartment, shared her own bathroom and then I had like this time you little two rooms and right next to are at the gensec crustal, our academies that he's going to contact the police and ask if i've make a statement in the a cop shot up are open to the apartment. And I mean, everything of Christal is still there. Her purse, her son, her tobacco.
I didn't know her very well, but I knew her well enough that she's not. Somebody would just be tobacco. Some people are claiming suicide and I don't feel like that was her.
I mean, I got ta get judge of people. She's SHE was pretty pathetic and i'm pretty impatient is why we connect IT. And like you know, we bought pretty al cards and do that kind of thing.
And I knew he struggled in a data day sense with a lot of different things that not sure things I don't even know about, but SHE never seemed to me to be a suicide type of person. And at the same time, he also never did anything to talk about her daughters. I can see her just like running away, but I don't say I am. I mean, I don't even know what to think that was IT was one day issues here, and the next issue has gone when we are making plans in the following days to hang out. So so I was weird that I of some shoes, dear.
was crustal having parties at the house.
I wouldn't say SHE ever had parties SHE. I think there's maybe once if he had, they three or four a friend stopped by, but I was not like a bit after news type deal that was never a late night drinking tonner and I knew after I was and like for fence, I was never I ever heard anything or was father by anything.
Do you know who used to stop by?
There is a couple of random people, I, you know that drifters that lived around cross that I would see. And he was most of the people that cheap dips on themselves with, where I would say people that I, joe persons I see myself ever like trying to have a relationship of friendship with. They just seem a little, I don't want to, like theory, attack someone of that. They seemed kind of like that heads like, just kind of bones, you know, I mean, to get you names about the people I don't. And I saw, I would know them from german's .
description of these people. I couldn't help but notice the similarity to the group. The share was talking about the trust fun kids.
Main woman that I heard was he was seen at a drum circle. Some people who just sent you went off in. The woman killed her.
Knowing her personality, I don't see her you in that I know I got, I had weird feelings about IT that gives very strange, but I just disappeared. I personally think if somebody has something to do with that, we just don't know. I mean that just my personal got feeling, this is very easy. I feel like somebody in either did something or know something. I really feel like there are some sort of fall play.
I SAT down with ora mcDonald Crystals .
landor's to discuss everything in more detail.
I first met her when he used to work at the bury SHE was super intuitive superintelligent extremely beautiful, almost memorizing her eyes were really beautiful, and memorizing SHE could see right into your soul. We used to do reading trades a lot. SHE was an intuitive SHE was a psychic. We both are.
Why SHE moved the first.
I remember her saying to get away from the drug scene in denver, try to get some clarity here. SHE was hoping to clean up and stay clean and and just be some place different to be able to and relax. SHE was looking for a place to live where eventually he would have her daughter come and join her, and he was trying to stay clean from drugs.
SHE asked me if he could have one of the rooms in the building. He said he was trying to stay clean. SHE wanted her daughter to come out here.
I said, yes, I had her move in. And then a week later, I left to go to boston with my daughter for two weeks, and that's when I got a ton of complaints. When I came back from my trip, SHE was having people over party a lot, and they were super love and keeping people awake.
Contrary to what crustal neighed jerrem told me, orr said that he received several noise complaints about parties .
that were being held in cricket apart SHE developed kind of a reputation in here in town for being liable. SHE started slipping back into the drug scene. SHE got fired from her job shortly after he moved in, and he was desperate to find a job.
And because of that, you know, he was pretty much broke. SHE only lived in the building for about a month, and section eight was paying the majority of her rent. SHE only had to pay fifty dollars, I believe, out of our own pocket.
It's a strange town, were surrounded by spiritual centers of all different kinds from all different walks of life all over the globe. There is a lot of people that come out here for retreats and meditations. And I just to get away some sort of thing as Crystal and many other people come here to get some rest or or get silence.
It's kind of a melting pot. A lot of people that have a hard time with Normal, mundane society and are trying to get away from the city, lots of solar panels and wells and people trying to live, upgrade, live in more sustainable ways. But we also get a lot of menial people, people and people with various problems.
We don't have police presence here very much at all. A lot of people come here that are running from the lot. It's like the good ugly, the sorted st of sorting in with the best of the best and it's all slamming together here. There's a huge underground drug scene. There's a lot of extra tics that still live in town that would never, ever, ever told the police anything because they hate police or seem pretty amen about .
a particular drug scene here in crustal when that was taking over.
Everyone knows that the math scene is here. Everyone knows who cooks the math and who sells IT and IT just is allowed to continue, you know, which leads me to believe either it's a payoff or they religious, don't care and they don't want to have to do anything about IT.
On the day Crystal was reported missing or was with the police when they entered her home for the first time.
i'd let him into her place. We found her phone, her bag or tobacco. The window was open. The fan was on in the window. Some of the lakes were still on IT looked like he had just left and had every intention of coming .
back or began expressing frustration with how the case is being handled. In her eyes.
at least I was doing more investigating into her disappearance than the cops did. I mean, they they basically just didn't really do much at all, even with the obvious stuff .
having talk to the share of myself, they've had very little information to .
go on the minute alisa arrives and starts to put up of us. That's when they send a search party out to look for her for two days a month after he disappeared. Why would you ever wait a month to go search for someone? And IT happens to be on the two days when baby daddy is visiting and wants to see that sometimes is being done.
There's a lot of people that would love to see justice done because the caston do anything. There's lots of rumors. There's people who believe that he just walked off and didn't wanna have anyone know where he was at.
But I highly doubt that he had a long history of taking long walk about when he was not feeling sward, which I can kind of relate to. And a similar thing when I was a teenager, aware, if you get into an emotional func, IT helps to walk. SHE really did love her daughter a lot, and her daughter was our main reason for living.
So I, I mean, if he was going to a walk out into the woods and purpose sely killer erself, I would think you would at least reach out to a life and say something with my intuition. I think either SHE accidentally overdosed and they actually got rid of her body, or they gave a bunch of drugs, and SHE went out wandering round in the woods and somehow got accidentally killed by being on drugs. But I highly doubt that SHE purposeful ly committed suicide.
What people need to realize that people get addicted to drugs because they are in pain originally and aggrieved. That's the way of the self medicating. I think Crystals dead. Yeah I don't think she's alive. The only way that he would really be alive as if she's locked up in somebody y's basement right now.
Before leaving her his house, he told me he had one more story to tell me about Crystal, something that happened to her just a few weeks before they were missing.
SHE was late for rent, and that's when I went upstairs. And at first he didn't answer, but I knocked a few more times, and then he picked out and came in the hallway. Her whole face was battery in red and shebeen crying and looked like a mess. I asked her what was wrong. SHE said that SHE had gone to a party the night before, and he was pretty sure that someone had drugged her, and he was pretty sure that she'd been raped.
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