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I'm former on county. I look school there. They will definitely protect their own. That's the way these people always been. Is all a big corrupt situation.

Everything that they get going down home, down, there's to make the whole share department. I was once to go down. Alan Morgan never got to go in that orchid. And that came from someone in just for.

When him and Nelson, with the search that all right now, son told him they let no need for him to go, and I told him, turn around and go back. Finally, in the starch. But I honestly feel like every since I starts at all day outside, this isn't going on for every sense of the teenager.

Er is is nothing new, I think they should definite pay the process, everything what and how do you anything you can do IT that's corruption in them down in this is. 但是 我 举例， i feel like you even more people than than I even would suspect, involved in IT. I'm glad that someone trying to coming out and people are actually know and part of trees.

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This is my home.

Been here, account to me is a beautiful place to live. I live in the big city of buffalo, new york property years, and I come back home after every time. So it's just a nice place in the change that that i've seen when I was grown up to what now it's just a beautiful place to be in nineteen forty one, december, the cel from japanese one prob, I will live in IT to next level.

Mam mark down the road from here to me is just a beautiful place. We from right here to this road right here, the next row right, was a little book. We place queens all way down and one, two.

And now we ve said all we down below or silver, we want a lot of places. Oh, back in this area, background here. I want to so many places I only was IT was kind of short to me because I live here and a pair day every day, even when we were looking to her that but you don't know.

That was the show to me for to be here going on all the right here, less than a man, when we are living in a way right now IT feelgood, to give me some closure that the family I was have not all over years, I know, is hard, because i've been to remember reason. I also investing in this because I have two queen people that had been killed and still no results. We still try to on results.

Now, my ARM and my sister, daughter, and has been long time. So that's what made me interesting in 客户。 客户 就 回来 坐在 凳子 上。

Did you guys ever search in that .

orchard that they found tair in? we. The nine is eight in next.

This is James wilcox. He's eighty five years old. He was born and raised in bin hu county. James lives in an old house of fruit one twenty nine and fits jerold less than a mile from where terrier's says remains were found.

Back in two thousand five, James felt compelled to help fine terror because he too have been the victim of an unsolved murder case in his own family. After James and I talked for a little while in his home, he offered to drive me out to the orchard. Up until this point, I had never seen that in the daytime.

What are we can is.

Already that they took out took a few that's only just a few miles from my house at all place we look and never James was still .

in disbelief that after dozens of searches for terror, SHE was right here in his backyard the whole time. Never get .

everything yeah.

James drove by this peak on orchard every single day. The orchard was huge, so big that you couldn't see the end of vit from the fence where I was standing. The rose of the countries went on for as far as you could see, by all accounts, the orchard itself looks and feels unsettling, like something out of a horror movie. And paired with the thought of what had happened here a decade ago, he was .

genuinely unnerving most of time when something happen like, does somebody know, but nobody wants to talk. Somebody knew all along, but just when nobody talk her and that's the hard part ter about IT when people know what can happened and then they won't let nobody know. I think if somebody went to police and told them to say there, then they did know.

Why else know? But I think that was wrong. They be suspicious because if the first part is had a known, I think they would do a Better job. Now, what I ve really heard, this happened some of his kind people, without their own search.

If I told you that an officer firm from the iron county share of apartment who was related to ryu g, went out on his own and searched that orchard, and nothing ever happened from that, what would you think about that?

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Before I left, James pull out a box of old VS tapes. He told me that several times during the searches for Terry, back in two thousand five, he brought his video camera alone.

I did some film right after he was missing. I might have been two, three weeks. Someone take something like that. I found the team from taxes in all of.

He pulled out a dusty old tape from the box. He powered up his VCR and then popped in the tape.

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He was filming terrorist house from the road just a few weeks after he went missing. There was crime tapes surrounding the entire property, a come home soon sign in the front yard, and a deleted balloon waving in the wind tied to the back of terrors car. No one could have imagined that would be more than a decade before they found anything.

Taric grins, did first question, what is your greatest sphere in life?

never. I have day. Now know that the was seeing. When I went into my classroom, the very first class that I hired, they wanted to start the class off by talking about, tell what you've gone to do when you go into this.

George and I said, we've got to do our less and forest. And so I gave my notes hoping that they would forget IT about clia bit. The last ten minutes of client, I said, you said we could talk about IT if we get there with our works so that you were asking a lot of questions. Very curious. Said in the classroom .

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rings were waiting there, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes. Still a teacher, he was in the hallway. Usually teachers, they're not up from the hallway, show up in all the time we hear over the intercom with their Green day report to the the office.

After that, everybody started freaking out. And they are the evenings when IT part up on the news. And and that SHE was they were searching for.

SHE was happy.

He was very had a very bubble personality. SHE was a person, was not afraid to help you if you needed IT if you were strong in school and any subject SHE would be. I worked very hard and he took me while I competed in nineteen.

mr. Alga preliminary and IT took me four years that I was determined that I was going to reach my goal and my tipton was my second to the list. pagets.

It's twenty four as the asia limit and was graciously tired of my tipton and i'm outside. There was, even if he was turning on the inside, on the outside, SHE was happy. SHE was loving. SHE would fail friend and he would energy SHE had a real passion for life. SHE had only of doing thing is spontaneously was such a good, well rounded is terrifying.

I mean, I really had missed her friendship, you know, and every since in the word, because you just want that, people that, you know, you love her, and if you know you SHE love you, I love her. The teenager friend that SHE was great in the door for you and and those types of people are hard to find that person SHE believed in player, he believes, and have a face. And how SHE used a good first that she's one of people that are very ahead of the dog for a friend, especially because she's very rare.

SHE was very, very rare. Her singing was not substance. SHE did her homework, and the matter, fact, he started padded.

And more than that, social, social money. You know, you have to have a talent. So SHE actually taught herself how to say.

Had to say so well, is only like you had a world story. But SHE denied stop. SHE tried and tried to write this all the time. He is sing for her mom. SHE for me.

Anybody who has listen once the way we would go to the church as he was sing in the church, just made her, or whoever SHE would say. And then he developed competent. And he was amazing. I think he was great.

Very critical of herself and he did have quite, you know, SHE did try to chase saying to big things. He had people listen to what they can help her that SHE was so driven to learn a talent that would earn her SHE. SHE had proven obviously in that little piece of you think, okay, right?

You know, he pray that she's just on a beat somewhere, you know, SHE the point of to get away and that probably wasn't the case that even when people are are done and they got you, you have a that a little taste them always there with you and always you have a thing, you know, you think working out, I think you that I always had that hope that we would find out what I would have some peace. So just I really never given up to say, well, I said, you never know what going to happen, you know, you never know what somebody on their time, they had made a tell, and I mean that she's disappeared. I had to spend the whole situation, I had to defend that.

I thought that they to everything, and he is a little bit of comfort, that is that there argue people in the world when something did happen and they did, father, but they now, whether IT was the right way, whatever I don't know that I was told I ever want to take me, maybe or so I want to be, or a history of date, time or point, whatever, anything like that, always thought this situation should, could be terror, you know, that is that happen like this, things could happen like that. And all of this was just completely drame crazy, because I didn't know. I really feel like it's been almost twelve long year, not knowing, not having any idea.

You know what thought? You know what had happened her or if he was there a lot, you know, i'm thankful to know. Now, though I wish I had had a finner. Of course, I want to see remorse from people that had to anything to do with that. The punishment definitely leave that up to god and the justice of them, because to me, that thing they can do to them and to bring her back or fix the situation, I just pray night that just as deserve.

And one day, you know, when they, whoever has made their, and it's down, and I had to to do IT, I just, I hope that I sent to you, they live with, deal to the rest their life they can barely live with, because that we have to live with, you know, yet for not being there for her. When I happened, i've had to live with you. You know, just the people talking about her and the right way.

Think about that at me. We're live in with losing her and all the problems and all of the feelings went along with IT. And I want them to live with just as much hard feelings and still and struggle.

If I have sometimes people look at this, like, is a movie. This is not a movie. This is real life. People is not real life. I love terrify much.

那那 i've had to take up for her when SHE hasn't ever take up for her sale unless he walked in this situation， unless you're in IT and the main part of you have no idea how you would feel the beginning, I knew that I was necessary to tell the C. B, A, everything I know and every whatever I know about everybody. Now, I felt like I, A train error, you know, because I had to open up and tell them everything.

But I, at the end of the day, I had to go, okay, this is the a matter of getting her back, finding out what happened to or or not. And I just is what IT is now, you know, I wish I was not all out, you know, the whole world though. But you know, that's just the way things happened.

And I don't think you ask question without knowing everything and and you know having to tell speak and having the real deal. thanks. You do not view um IT does that made those people life were effected? But I think that they understand is that I think that is the way that is when you put yourself in someone's, or else why IT can happen here, IT really thoughtful for, thankful for at least cry, and for their family, her family.

And I just positive, positive about there, more positive and feed back. I mean, what what happened alone and just this point out, i'm trying that IT was one of that is should ever Young wrong, you know is a great thing because that i'm the out of you I know SHE said he had my fear, but he did have a strong bear and being broken into and and and violated. And if trade is unit, IT was very quick.

Whatever happened, I hope IT was quick, I think just want that things trying real hard to create, real hard to except the things that I do not know IT is cept the fact that I may never know um and just be able to live in live in like that it's been like reliving this i'll over again every single day. And when IT all happens in two thousand and five IT, we are here. I was really to get my life back now, back to the new Normal, and it's been the same way where I was trying to cope with.

There is just unreal. I felt like IT with some. I see. No, 然后 他， but I guess the part of me was right. You know, I don't. You know, no, I wants to think I would know someone who could actually kill somebody else or hurt somebody SE take, you know, I get so real. And I guess I have a deal for thinking people that I did know may have to with IT.

But lately, you know, I don't like this the guys but I don't like this the guys that they really I just know about and and i'm i'm glad because it's it's been it's been very difficult, viable. They have a lot of questions, but I do not think that all comes out. And IT is just my question.

Terror was a happy person who inspired those around her, but a voted teacher, a loving daughter and a best friend. As we learned in some of the previous episodes from some of the emails, terr cent to Marcus harker's mom, tair was a very passionate person and in the days and weeks reading up to her disappearance, SHE was experiencing her first harpring. SHE was emotionally torn about her split with mark harper and SHE expressed that in many ways.

Recently.

I was given a never before seen letter that terracina markets shortly after they broke up.

In spite of all the hardships, i've learned a lifelong lesson, marriage, something I should have never dwelling. Of course, I would be happy having your name, but it's more important just to have you. I do not need your name to have you in my life.

All I need is to act right, or perhaps look at the situation differently. I have just been happy having you in my life. Now that I don't, i'm experiencing the most terrible pain in my heart. I am realizing that not having you in my life is worse than not being married.

All this time, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me and why you were not marry me when I should have just been happy being your chosen girl for six years, but I did not know what I was like to have you and then lose you. I know now, and I also know I will not find anyone like you. I know we both struggled with their emotions, such as job, finance, garlic seta.

But my insecurity got the best of me. And when you were down and concerned with those matters, I assumed that was me. Sure, I know I called some additional stress on you, but I was just my plan for some answers in my life.

Answers I thought you could verbally give me when actually the answers lie within actions and time, emotions are more important than words. And I know what I film markets. I have a tremendous amount of love for you and an scruby ating amount of pain from this broken heart.

Love can heal the pain with both experienced ed, i'm willing to completely love you. If you can meet me halfway, let me prove to you, or rather show you what I have learned about our relationship. It's not about our unity and marriage, but it's about our unity as two people who love each other.

Yes, I know you're saying, why didn't you see that before? I just did not. Now I do.

My devotion to you runs deep, as you know, and I want to show you a new devotion. It's not just about waiting while you're gone and doing for you. It's about me learning to trust that you love me.

I was always scared you did not love me like I loved you. And when you went out with friends, I thought I was because you were falling out of love. Forgive me wanting to spend time with you because, you know, I ve spent plenty of time alone, but I can surely see your free time away from me in a different light.

Life is about learning markets, and please do not hold a graduates me for the past three years, none of this was meant to hurt you or me, but in a time of emotional confusion, I hit rock bottom only to see darkness. IT took this time for me to learn what the past six years was more about. It's more about just us being a couple.

Thank god I see that now. And I pray to god that you will always give me a chance to prove what I see. IT would be Better for the both.

I have try reaching out to market several times throughout my investigation, but I never got a response. But three days after ryan dux arrest back in february, I received a facebook message from him. He said, i'm ready to talk now or you.

I was driving back to a landa a from seller at the time. I got off from the first x that I saw and pulled into a little coffee shop the acidic could call me, and he did. In the first few minutes, we had a sort of bearing the hatchet moment.

He expressed his this taste for some of the earlier episodes of up vanished. But then he told me that he understood my role, and as hard as I was for him to hear that he knew why I had to be done and that I wasn't the first person to question him in tears disappearance. I asked if I could meet them in person, and he said he would do IT, but only five meat in new york city.

And coincidently, I was going to new york just three days later. So we arrange a meeting, Markson. I talk for hours at a restaurant off record. After an emotional couple of hours, we parted ways when we continue our communication on a regular basis over the next six months. And just a few days ago, for my own request, he agreed to give me an official statement we met again, this time at my office in elena.

How do I describe almost twelve years of pain? In one statement? I can't. The only thing I can do is admit that I was wrong about my assumptions of what happened to terror.

I always said I would not believe her to be dead and to improve, and otherwise february is twenty third. Twenty seventeen changed that for me. After receiving a call from law enforcement, the voice on the other end of my phone, which I recognized, told me my years of pain were over or they hope was gone.

But people will always judge, criticize and scrutiny. IT did not feel real than just like IT does not feel real. Now my pain is nothing compared to what her family is experiencing.

Terror was robed of her dreams, loved ones and of life. All of those were cut short for what reason her parents were robed of their daughter. I cannot imagine the pain her father and stepmother or feeling her mother passed away without knowing what happened.

SHE is grieved by many friends and family who have all had the same question. why? For twelve years, everyone close to this case was forced to endure their own personal hell.

Some turned on each other, while some became closer because of trawls and tribulations. The far as of hill itself is not enough for the one's responsible. Tehran, I had a relationship.

IT ended, as many do. Sometimes people come into our lives for a season, sometimes for much longer, but these people come into our lives for a reason. We learn from them.

They help us grow. And terrier just that he supported major in one the most tran times in my life, the path to the seventy fifth ranger er regiment on a blistering summer day. SHE penned on my coveted ranger tab at Victory pon in fort minning.

SHE was there when I first left to go to war and greeted me with my family upon my return. SHE helped you my ambition in turn IT was that ambition that caused train in our relationship months upon months of diplomats. And the fact that I did not want to move back to my hometown, settle down and start a family caused us to take different route.

We had our differences. We try to maintain a friendship, but that is difficult to do when two people have been in love. I never got to finish the story when we last spoke.

Maybe I will share one day, despite all I will say, we parted on good terms and I have peace. We have a just a system network. No matter how flawed IT has to be given a chance, all we can do is remain patient and pray that justice served.

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I paying how you i'm good.

I don't. But hi, I was. I was getting my hair fixed. I was nine, the hair right. I thought I Better not get a unto mind of this because that Operators, he had someone coming right after me.

my grandma.

you probably get A G, P. I, if you can get.

Yes, I get there. Most of my previous conversations with my grandma have been about how proud of me he was, or how many cowboy cookies he needed to make for me, or someone, or anyone for that matter. But I D D.

Never always set down with her to discuss the case. After all, he only lives fifteen minutes from a sila. And her best friend, melba, was at the beauty pages and talk to tear on the night he went missing. I SAT down to talk with her, to have a real conversation about things. And the first .

thing he said was to break my grandson here. You really got me going again. I think I would still be a cold case had you not gotten involved with this podcast.

I really do. I think everybody's happy. How is turned out? And IT would be one of IT could be some close to IT.

I know those parents have had to go through an awful lot hearing all of this and everything. Every time I listen to one new part case, something new has come up. I can't believe that so many people have been involved in this thing.

How can a small town keep a secret like that?

A C, C, they don't always welcome outside as small pounds. You know, it's the same way when I moved to openly, or gosh, that's been since nineteen and fifty two. I mean, the people that lived right in albany is sort of a click, you know and they just supporting java.

It's I don't think it's hard to do. It's just unreal to me how for that many years that many people who knew something would not come forward. It's just unreal. I mean, I think this could have been solved a long time ago had people talk like they are very careful who they talk with. And I think it's like that in most small little southern towns since .

the pocket everyone's been talking and you have friends that you talk to and see, they clearly know that i'm your grandson, right?

My age group, they don't know him. What a podcasts.

what you do I do.

I tried to tell him and a bragin, a melva. I think he's talking about IT now, you know yeah.

a good bit. Your hit. Now you get a phone. yes.

I mean, I think people all shocked that this is going on for this long. Seems like everybody is willing to talk now. Yeah, at first .

they weren't, but now it's like all the cards out on the table. People feel like to have less to lose.

Now I think I heard IT was a day for yesterday, I think was on the W. L. News about bow dukes. He's been a rain now.

Is that right? Yeah, he's been died.

He's been in died. okay. I think when IT maybe first happened, a lot of people pointing a finger at one another. You know, one of freezing baa one, you know.

first was the boyfriend, mark harper, and the cough from the other town. He dikes.

I think that everyone would like what to come to an, and as oso's to be remembred for other things, rather than terror. Grim stayed the horrible murder. You know, because that is a sweet little time.

I I used to shop there when I first moved tip. I used to go to or seller. I don't think it's there anymore.

What do you shop?

Was a cute, low dressed p. IT was called diane OK. I never went in there that I didn't buy something. Hope you came up with up.

What do you think we all should learn from this? If you've been listening to this since day one, if you are a member of the community and south georgia of sila tiff in this area, and you've heard this story, and we've all witnessed this stuff unfold.

never give up, keep on, just open every door. You must can make every phone call the public can, just to keep bone going. That's for student. Everybody has to be investigated.

I mean, anybody that had anything to do with that, I mean, though, share the police and her friends, school mate, teachers, everyone need to be interviewed. I mean, that's how you've gotten far. If you have right now, I got in the car, call a friend.

I said, how do you get the most of way I live? He told me because i've been there, but i've got a long way. He told me a back way to go, you know, so I was there in a call.

Melbourn SHE met mean. IT was just so exciting to see all that. I had been in a cold room in a long time. Only time I went is because somebody ran into me and I was skin to death. But that was really cash.

I thought I was in a watching a movie as something, but all the reporters and all the camera is, and they want to saw her family come out. That had to be hard, you state. Mother and father walked out from the chains.

SHE loved up and melt through a kiss. SHE threw a kiss back to mom. So marva knows about everybody.

Yeah, think you know so because she's been a long time, she's a lovely ladies. I'm hoping the name soon. I I really thought after they arrested him, he would really come out in, confess that he did IT. I never the idea of him going to rub her, you know, and what?

She's a school teacher, small little house, you know, I mean, I always felt from the very beginning that he was a person that maybe had a crush on her for a long time in a nice person, he just spoke with him and he just might be taking IT the wrong way. Yeah, I think he's in time. That night was not to rab anything.

Yeah, I think he had crash on her maybe for a long time. Yeah, SHE just refused an an killed mean, i've always felt like that, but that's just my opinion. Who might know? I don't understand he he did IT why he just won't admit I, me, he knows his.

He's not going to ever walk the streets again. How he could walk around and bow looks to every day in that well time and know what you have done for all those he is. I don't know how someone can live with that pathetic work.

And that could room that they walking up those steps. He held his head down the whole time. Maybe he raised a little bit when they ask if people needed a lawyer.

I hope IT was so name. I just imagine when the family appeared in court that day. I mean, how said IT was but a relief to know that he was that.

I mean, is that something that happened to and my family, anyone? I wouldn't have one minute of piece every day. I don't know how strong I am.

I don't know. I could survive IT, but I would do everything I possible. Could you would never be a cold case.

I'll be there every day, the share of office or somewhere asking, what are you're doing? What are you doing? At least I be on that telephone.

Everybody know if I have something in the break in this, i'm right a way to get this fixed. So then I hope they do have a little little peace known that he is not coming home, you know. So to lose a child like that has to be the worst thing in the world. Are you keep pinging and there with IT.

I will.

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love you too. I think .

they might have both been in IT from the very beginning 中间 吧。 I do i've always felt like that you know, since he came forward, I felt like he was in IT from the very beginning, very first day. In fact, the night I didn't happen. That's just my fAiling because.

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You here is no such thing as the perfect murder. That's not just because I had a lot perfect.

IT took a years before I was actually able to speak with this guy.

Nobody knew what happened here, even the police. They didn't have no idea, only only want to know exactly what happened.

The man who says he murdered Dennis philaster, and I find out what really happened that terrible night.

The only two people that know what happened that night is in, is in him. He is the that has answers, believe.

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