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Some of us we try doing some reading in that and we were getting messages because we are nowhere, you know. And we were working with this. We were getting river and caves.

One night after we'd met up, I went home. I I have A T, V, because someone gave me when I hardly ever watch IT. That's not me.

I don't come home and turn around the TV. I'm too busy first. While i'm never home that night, I came home and for some reason I flip the T.

V on. And IT was on channel twelve, and a concert was just starting. And IT was one that had been recorded here in denver. And IT was nativity dirt band.

What they have to be old and know they are festival, and they just stepped up on the stage, just as I turn the T, V, and they start their first song. And IT was a song that are probably no one in the world. And most they were resolved, as me would have known.

I don't go near that river. Don't be having a look at this one. Welcome the morning at all. Always be.

Mama said, don't go down to the river and stay away from cadiz, john. And i'm like, don't go down to the river like there's something going on here。 The only other band that ever did that song was a great for dead. Well, that was her favor band.

There's something about this, about the river and everything so then when I told I was either rainy, my or Angel, I can't member who was about IT and they're that's his name and I go who they said the guy john, you know, I was name is cat fish john, that's if they call him and like. You tell me that he didn't tell me to turn that tb on and hear that song. Of course, IT happened. No one else would .

have known that.

And i'm like, okay, Crystal, what are you telling me here? And then when I got a confirmed that that was the guy's name, caf sh john, with hello chances of that. A billion of one. I knew I was something from her.

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Hi, paying rotten Y I need you to call me back when you get this. If you wouldn't place. Would you go through the paperwork and see if Crystal had any dental indicate any dental work? I just got a call from lane about an hour ago.

They found a skull and its female and IT matches the age range. To work done. So the question is, is a Crystal.

We need to find out if he had done the work done and where he had had done. If he did, I called win back and told him to check social services and ghanaian colorado. Do you want to call weight? You might be Better getting in from the source. They want to school about to felt box age. And how we could be one of college for ones that have been to all 进去 do is because our husbands to would come IT most of this figure problem。 So we should take the extra because of people lap the example, take a look out of a compare of everything, people.

Well, two people off a hike end of finding a human school, and that waits the discovery of more human remains.

He was walking with his dog when he found a human skull. Continuing our coverage of colorado at six. The kull was on muddying open space property. Your nett, the many immediately called authorities right now they're working to identify that skull.

Of possibilities. So whatever they find out a boy or girl or not a female, anytime they find body, everybody.

So IT .

was.

you can hide about IT here really easy. You could disappear here really easy. But it's probably, in many ways, one of the last places in the country.

You can do that if you want to lose a body. You can do IT up here, there, out down the mind chat. Some of those chaffs crapped out on the bottom and IT goes into water. And we don't know how far down .

IT goes .

or anything that is vast .

wilderness. There are hundreds of mine shafts and crevices and rock formations with deep crevasses. Unless somebody gave law enforcement very specific intel about where to look, the chances somebody could find there are very limited. We have every reason to believe that the swatch kony sherifs office has enough information to make a case if they find Christal back to the reward.

If somebody is willing to take that money to share with authorities where they heard word Crystal may be, then that's probably enough to give them the reward because that I think will lead to the arrest of specific sessoms. IT has to be some place familiar for the suspect or suspects. I don't think that the suspects in this case are are so brilliant that they can go to google maps the train and figure out a new place they've ever been to just find the perfect place to hide the bottle.

These are local people who know the area and the places they need to get to those elevation involved. And you can Carry a body very far. Some place that they know that isn't that hard .

to get to someday and IT.

Maybe tomorrow, maybe thirty years from now, some day somebody will come across.

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Honestly, there's really no confirmation that the drum circle is even relevant kind of in a sense because that keeps coming up. But IT might just happen sense that this all transpired around the same time as the drum circle because I don't know of I couldn't tell you a single connection .

to the room circle.

I mean, job. So will just kept coming up from the beginning but really I .

don't know if he has any connection .

for IT started out at last time. He was seen on the thirteen after the drum circle. But if the drum circle is on the eighteen so if I was july .

I N S and people were saying .

last time he was seen on a thirteen, and there's a lot of stuff here to weed through. IT almost seems like a movie or something that happens to somebody else is time goes on and i'm losing the real image. And this is real. This is a beautiful Young lady. The evil piece of crap took your life.

You have to try and move on in life. That's not so hard as you can move on .

because it's not. But until the person is is found of not found but convicted and all that, that there is this distinction myself, kind of a set. We've given pretty much everything that we think we and you guys, you're going to be able to go out and talk to all the other people that we don't know or never had content there.

Anything else. I when I start thinking that i've done all I can do that, that's my fear of getting into that thinking, but I don't know what else to do rather than sitting you. Well.

that's my media is so huge right now because there will literally be nowhere to hide. That's why I keep trying at people to share on facebook and stuff. No, I wear you from, I don't care you from the new york or toro, no matter where you're from. The story I need people from all over the country right here is, is such a small worldwide web. Eventually there will be nowhere for them, the height short of filing the country and changing their identity.

Or a criminal profiles be of any assistance.

I know guy.

Maris.

yeah.

are you doing?

Yeah.

i'm in dever right now.

It's about three and half almost four hours. It's A.

Do not believe that IT was a stranger. Say yes, somebody is go harm you, somebody, you know. 7F6 是 26安 的 最大 的 版本。

I gave mary a copy of the police report, and he went over in detail.

I had heard through social media that a man named june had been seen with Crystal shortly before he was last scene. John goes by the nickname cat fish. I spoke with john at his home.

John stated that around his birthday, the Crystal had come over to his house. When I asked him how he got there, he said that he did not know, and then he just knock on the door. John said he did not see a car outside. He was not sure of the date or the time, except IT was still light outside when cycle showed .

up here cafe, just trying to distance himself.

He stated that they drank wine, smoked marijuana and watch movie. He said that he fell asleep and woke up when Christal was leaving. He said that he did not get up to walk her out of the door and did not know what time that was when he left due to the wine in marijuana.

John said that he fell asleep as he was leaving. John offer her to let me search his house and the grounds to prove the Crystal was not there. John said that he did not know Crystal that well.

That he didn't moo whale, he was trying to dist himself do with her and he was killed while.

John stated that around his birthday the Crystal had come over to his house.

age of where my first.

the last time cryo .

was seen or heard from was likely july thirteen s but cautious birthday is on july twenty first.

He has destroyed and thank him. He can't reason this stuff, unlike you're doing made of stuff. So he made a mistake. He revealed himself when he made a statement.

John offer her to let me search his house and the grounds to prove the Crystal was not there.

Duty person to allow police officers to search their own everything. In the interview, he was deceptive and he kind of this himself on crustal and say he guilty and I saying he suspicious, he lived in the interview and he showed deception, which by a dance when your first venture, please, definitely a person and and should be until these are absolutely later. Have you have a interviews?

Cat fish, I tried to contact them on facebook, but ignored me.

第二段， 但是 第二段 实在是。 When you got the power, you got people, could you battle and just go to new. And sometimes people owe that to stuff to people. So in the. So for me, um very possible and not ever say and saying about him we saw the Terry case.

We've never .

rented out each other.

Sometimes you tend to think that you go .

father than you have.

That drive to be able to get rid .

of the body.

I just that they drive.

And go through .

some network.

Labor, you are setting back, waiting for miracle with some information to give me up to you.

You have created.

The police report mentioned Christal councillor in crestone, so I tracked her down and gave her call.

I was living in recent. I was teach human development, and I went to the bliss for a night. And I ordered glass wine and sell IT.

And SHE comes walk enough to me, and SHE said, i've never seen before. He said, on what you do a reading for me and I said, be back in fifteen minutes and don't be late fifteen months. He walks back up to me.

He said, do you have your cards? You know, I don't do tar card ratings, but I said to her, I said, I don't need cards to read you. And I said to her very sternly, you are about ready to lose everything, get even your life if you don't turn things around. And SHE started cry. SHE had no life.

was.

and he was hanging out with a tall brian, and there was some other guys, and they were sitting at another table there and I said, those guys are sucked in your life, you, and when you don't have any energies, and they abuse you. And SHE said exactly, and he said, will you .

help me?

SHE was leaving town that day, and he was coming back for, I think IT was spring break. SHE was in school. I said, what day will you be back to me, I think was like a month away.

And I said, you stay with me for a week. I will take care of you and and I will help you. And I said, in the meantime, I need for you to call me once a week.

SHE SHE lost her college. SHE lost her job. So he called me and and SHE started building herself up.

And the day he was .

supposed to see me, SHE drove in the town. Instead of coming to the bliss and seeing me, SHE went. And so brian SHE got there early.

He saw bryan.

Brian showed up at the bliss, and he said to me, do you need to call Crystal? And I said, why do I need to call her and he go, she's very upset. I totally her car.

He thought IT was real funny. He told her car, he totally, her car out there in the boca kind of on A A straighter way. I mean, he had to work card to do to IT.

So I said, no, I don't need to call Crystal. You tell Crystal SHE calls me when he gets home and I went home and I didn't hear that SHE go home and he called me. He says, I know I fucked up.

He said, I I was feel strong and I thought I could go see them. And brian asked to borrow my car, and then he totally IT, and I said, how do you feel about that? And he said, I think he did .

IT on really.

Yeah, he did on purpose. These guys were the one to have the drugs. I mean, these guys were, I mean, Crystal was so beautiful.

SHE was shamanic. SHE was beautiful energy. SHE was intelligent. SHE was earth mom. And then they would just take her energy.

I said.

what you can do about IT stand and fight for your life once you're. Onna pay you. He's going to pay me in two weeks.

Two weeks went by and bryan is laugh detter. No, he didn't fair. I told her, you know, it's your choice. If you're going to take authority here, you need to file a police report, and you need to get ready to your own persons action. 消息 点。

Filed in the combined court ganis and county, colorado, may twenty second, two thousand four or plenty of Crystal ricer versus defended brian the amount claim ed from defendant brian is twenty two hundred dollars. Such claim arises from the following event on march sixteen of two thousand fourteen. Bright barbed my vehicle and ended up totally IT defending.

Brian hangs out of the bliss cafe in Crystal, colorado. Address is one eighty seven west silver Christon, colorado. Signed Crystal rising er SHE .

had filed suit against .

bright back in fourteen and that never came up until I saw and her file folder and a boxer pictures. And guess who served the .

papers on brand certificate .

of service, state of colorado, county of so watch dan war work being first, duly sworn states as follows. I hereby certify that I served a copy of summons, complaint and answer to respond in brian date may thirty fifth, two thousand fourteen time nine thirty pm, address bliss cafe sign lu tenant day war wig to watch county, colorado then more .

worked to share if he wasn't to share if at that time in two thousand and fourteen he was a little tenant. You know, I don't know if that means anything, but the share never mentioned that he had had contact. He LED me to believe that he didn't know know of Crystal other than heard there in Crystal. But that's not true if I am understanding IT, because he was the one that served the papers on .

brian for Crystal that maybe .

just have nothing to do with anything. But it's just another little another little thing there that I think, well.

Brian also goes by judy. Brian, I started asking around to see if anyone knew me more about Crystal and bryan's relationship. Angela, who I spoke too earlier on the podcast.

told me an interesting story.

told me the back story of their relationship and their back story of their relationship is when Crystal was teaching at western technology, SHE had a cautious, and when he had a cautious with her, bride was watching a cautious for her, and he lived with her. So he ended up crashing .

her car.

and Crystal was very upset. D about that and they had a falling out. They kind of started to become friends again. sorry. And he's the one that ended up bringing her for the summer two question. So when he got to creston SHE SHE liked IT SHE fit in SHE felt like I was a safe place to be so that may have been part of the catalyst .

I asked Crystals latest boyfriend too, the Christan boyfriend.

SHE came down over time. Check out as he.

He resumes like they were friends of us, but he really been like us. Definitely like with. He might not even might be there. I in my house should be after school.

Back in crestone, I met up with David again.

So there's the path goes up here and there's caves up in there. That's one of the things that we are always thought is like, well, maybe you would never really left here, you know but no, there's this story, the keys coming back that, oh, he went back to .

cavs jars to confront.

David said that one of his friends in town might have some more information about Crystal, so we drove .

to her house.

And this is glad you. I.

It's a bad nickname, man, go to the south or go to prison. That's not a good handle. And that's how we all felt twenty years ago when he first showed up really. And it's usually the guy that has started killed somebody. And drags them to the bottom of the river and item.

But I always .

knew him .

is not anywhere stable. When he came, he was kind of count surfer's, that is, dads and he has a few friends that he'll land their place. I'm sure you d rather do that than me. Is that because that is dad, he's probably going to get harassed about me and high though he would be looking for other druggies to land with when you get here.

And I do know that every time I repost anything about crustal camp for shows are come in friend me on facebook so he's watching he is keeping an I on every fucking post that is related to her because we're not friends on facebook. I've never been his friends on facebook. But he has tried to friend me like three or four times in the last year every time I post an article or a news story or something, he sends me a friend request, and I just gg le.

I mean, I know i've never met this, stan. I didn't have any interaction with her, but I know a lot of different people that know her, and they all have different stories. One of my friends, her kids were hanging out with cycle and.

A stepped daughter in her sand Christal have been common and gone from up. They're quite a bit. And then SHE came up one day, really upset and crying, and said that catfish had locked up in his house for a couple of days and winter, and SHE was really upset and can decide what to do. And SHE left upset.

And zoom, I finally asked him to like, what's going on? on? Why was he cry? What's going on? And IT took her a couple of days to get the implant out of them. And they finally told her, and she's like, oh my god, he needs to call the police but Crystal decided that he would go back over cat fishes and confronting herself and didn't wanna call the police. And nobody seen her sense.

So that's what .

I heard.

I've even seen posts like when they posted the news story, the fox five news story, and people were making comments lower post to IT and underneath her post, someone, some guy got on there, I don't know, but he apparently was here. And he's like, I don't understand whether we're still talking about this.

I told me in Clark that that girl l was murdered and he was loaded in this vehicle, buy cat fish and driven to this area and thrown in a mine shaft. And I don't understand why they haven't found her. A wide more information has IT been resolved because I told them, we've all told them what happened her that day and they haven't done shit. And I don't get what wrong with to watch police partner.

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Hi, wain, I know we haven't mad, but I know you're the local cop in cranston, which my girlfriend and I really .

appreciate .

about an hour ago tonight, my roommate and I I witnessed something we felt was suspicious enough to report to you. We live down in chanted lane and passed our neighbour coming home from town, denied he is the second right coming down and chanted from comino delay. And I believe his name is catfish.

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