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S1E7: Phineas Gage

2016/11/22
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Payne Lindsey:本集主要围绕一起自杀案件展开,一名男子自杀前留下遗书,声称自己知道Tara Grinstead失踪案的真相,并列出了12个人的名字。这些人的DNA样本已被采集,但结果并未提供关键线索。此外,该男子生前曾遭遇车祸,之后行为异常,这引发了关于其精神状态和证词可信度的疑问。调查人员试图通过各种途径寻找真相,包括采访相关人员、调查警方记录等。 Maurice:提供了关于自杀男子的关键信息,包括其遗书内容、生活背景以及与案件相关人员的联系。他强调了案件的敏感性,并表达了对死者家属的尊重。 Matt:作为一名医生,他从医学角度分析了自杀男子车祸后行为异常的原因,并以Phineas Gage案例为例,说明了严重脑损伤可能导致人格改变的可能性。他认为,车祸可能导致自杀男子出现精神错乱,从而影响其证词的可信度。 Dusty:提供了关于自杀男子兄弟的证词,其兄弟曾向他透露有人在追杀他,并暗示这些人与Tara Grinstead的死亡有关。他还讲述了自杀男子车祸后的行为变化,以及他与警方沟通的过程。 Osceola当地居民:讲述了在Tara Grinstead失踪当天,Joe Hilton在餐厅告诉她Tara失踪的消息,并暗示Marcus Harper是凶手。这为案件增加了新的线索和疑点。 Payne Lindsey:通过对自杀男子遗书、警方记录和相关人员证词的分析,试图还原案件真相,并探讨了自杀男子证词的可信度。他强调了调查的谨慎性和复杂性,以及在寻找真相过程中遇到的各种挑战。 Maurice:提供了关于自杀男子遗书中列出的12个人信息的补充,并解释了为什么DNA证据不能完全排除这些人的嫌疑。他强调了调查的复杂性和多方面因素的影响。 Matt:详细解释了Phineas Gage案例,并分析了严重脑损伤对人格和行为的影响。他指出,自杀男子车祸后的行为变化可能与脑损伤有关,这需要进一步的医学评估。 Dusty:提供了关于自杀男子兄弟的补充信息,包括其车祸经历以及车祸后行为和精神状态的变化。 Osceola当地居民:提供了关于Joe Hilton的补充信息,以及他在Tara Grinstead失踪当天所说的话的细节。这为案件增加了新的线索和疑点,并可能指向新的调查方向。

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The episode delves into a man who committed suicide and left a note implicating himself in Tara Grinstead's disappearance, listing 12 names. The note was given to the GBI, who questioned and DNA swabbed the individuals listed.

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with no explanation. "A black 15-year-old male who lived in the same area where three other children had disappeared." There was a real-life monster on the loose, and the city of Atlanta demanded answers. "Inner-city kids get killed. Unfortunately, nobody cares." By 1981, the FBI was involved in one of the largest manhunts in U.S. history, and eventually, they put one man behind bars.

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It was on this same weekend, 11 years ago, that Tara Grinstead disappeared. We knew something was wrong immediately. She was not the kind of teacher that would not show up without alerting somebody. We was expecting her to pull up any time and say, "What are you guys doing at my house?" But that didn't happen. I think about Tara virtually every day, and I certainly think about her when October comes around.

For now, time stands still. Grinstead's friends, family, the town still held captive by the unknown. For many people in Irwin County, this weekend brings back painful memories. That fateful night on October 22nd, 2005 would haunt this community for over a decade. Tara's missing poster still hangs in front of the police station. It's now faded and hard to read, but Oscella is still holding on for an answer. In the last episode, Maurice had called me with a new lead.

He told me about a man who committed suicide in Knoxville, Tennessee. The man also wrote a letter, and it said he couldn't live with himself any longer because he knew what happened to Tara Grinstead. The letter also listed 12 people's names. This has to be very sensitive because I have been dealing with a distraught family for two months.

And that family, just one person from the family, the rest of them are so distraught that they refused everything. And they were mad, really, in the beginning. That's the reason why I'm telling you, Payne, it's very, very, very sensitive, man. It wouldn't take but a little swift, and that whole family and everything would absolutely put a stop to it. He stressed to me that this was a very sensitive situation.

This was not a rumor or hearsay. A real person committed suicide. Out of respect for the grieving family, I was asked not to say his name in this podcast. It's a very confusing and eerie story, but I'll do my best to explain it. He lived in Fitzgerald, but he went to Irwin County. And because it's right there on the line, a lot of people do that. He would have been 31, 32 now. So 10 years ago, he would have been 21 or 22.

He was an avid fisherman and an avid hunter, too. This came to me by an anonymous... Somebody created a Gmail account about two and a half months ago or more. I don't know who sent it to me, but it was a female. And she wasn't from Osceola. She was from Tiffin. And she was in college when this happened. She dated...

one of the guys whose name was on the list. This is new information. But this individual wrote a letter and said that he couldn't live with himself anymore and that he knew what happened to Tara. Those 12 people were hauled in by the GBI and they were all swabbed. They were all swabbed. But see, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

There's no use to search the internet. There's nothing, I mean, just one obituary, that's it. But there's nothing in the internet about this. For one thing, he killed himself in Tennessee, he's Ron Fitzgerald, but there's nothing in the internet by any of it. Other than obituary, there's nothing on the internet about his suicide. So the question is, did he do it? Well, no, he didn't. What it is, is that he was threatened

He was threatened, and he saw something that he shouldn't have seen. He was actually threatened. He had told family, see, he didn't say who, but he was threatened. And it's either two things, either that and he saw something or there were a group of them. See, you could have 10 people standing around, one or two people harming somebody, and you could list those 10 people's name in a letter.

The suicide note didn't give any details about what happened to Tara. It just said that he knew what happened, and then he listed 12 people's names. The letter was given to the GBI, and they brought in all 12 people for questioning.

They also got a DNA swap from each individual. Maurice was saying that even though these people's DNA presumably didn't match the glove found in Tara's yard, it didn't really mean anything. He's saying if there was a group of people involved, and they were all standing around watching, then their DNA wouldn't be on the glove anyways. The main thing is, none of the families have the note. Now, the GBI has the letter.

So I've submitted a records request for that letter to GBI. I made the argument that none of this was tied to terror case. So I don't know if they abide or not, but I...

But I want to copy the letter. Tennessee law is, you know, if something is an active investigation or open, you don't get it. Just like Georgia. But the thing is, they don't have the letter in Tennessee. I've already confirmed that. They've got the original letter. GBI has it. And that's what they pulled the boys up on. Just like Georgia's record law, Tennessee doesn't have to give us the letter either. You have to deal with the family, see.

because they're still hurting after five years that he killed himself. He went to Georgia for one year, and then in 2009 he was an honor student at the community college there. He was a pretty good guy, it seemed like.

I said, there's about four or five people I don't have the names on. I have five. They're all 01 or 02. All of them had Tara as a teacher. None of them were 05. They were all 01 and 02 students.

or 03 graduates of Erwin County. I don't have the letter. I just know that the 12 individuals on the letter, they were all swabbed. The source that gave him this information only told him five of the names on the list, so we're still missing half of them, but it's still a good start. Maurice was able to contact one of the names on the list, and he told me about their conversation. I've talked to one person.

that was on the list. You know, the question that I asked this individual was this. I said, why do you think you were listed on here? He said, he doesn't know. I mean, the family doesn't know why these people were on the list. And I asked him, he said he doesn't know. He said he doesn't know. I said, well, what did the GBI say? He said, well, they mentioned about the glove and the DNA in the glove. And then they asked if any of us had had sex with Tara.

So, I don't know the source of the DNA on the glove. Could it be body fluids rather than saliva or sweat or skin cells or something like that? So, could it be body fluids or something on the glove? So, I don't know why they asked him that question. The tipster was his girlfriend for two years. The tip was given to Maurice by an ex-girlfriend of one of the men listed in the suicide note.

When Maurice questioned this man about the letter, he told him he had no idea why his name was in there. He had no clue. The GBI supposedly asked him and the other men in the letter if they had ever had sex with Tara, and they were all swabbed for DNA. This was very confusing, because it seemed to imply that the glove was somehow linked back to Tara. The whole thing just gave me an uneasy feeling. And the whole nature of this thing and where it goes is honestly pretty uncomfortable to talk about.

Is this the answer to solving the case, or am I just jumping down another rabbit hole? I knew that either way, this was an area I needed to tread very cautiously. Maurice gave me the names he knew from the list, and I've tried to reach out to them, but they've all ignored me.

I decided to do some more research on the man who committed suicide. I hoped that maybe searching through his friends and background would turn up something. And it did. It turns out that this guy's brother was friends with someone I knew, and someone that you know too. I decided to pay him a visit in Osceola, in person.

Dusty. Sup man. This is my friend Donald by the way. Dusty Vassy, the reporter from the Osceola newspaper. He knew this guy's brother. Did you have lunch or anything? No. Want to get some lunch or something? Yes, could eat. Cool. Miss Diane, I'm going to go eat lunch. We went to one of the local restaurants for lunch. I had my friend Donald with me too. I liked Dusty a lot, but he had no clue I was going to ask him about this suicide.

I hope it didn't catch him off guard too much. We changed it to where y'all order here now. Oh, okay. But here's the menu if y'all want to look at it. Okay, cool. Same as up there. Same as up there? We sat down at the table, and I told him I wanted to ask about this person. To my surprise, he had a story of his own. A friend called and said one of our friend's brother was freaking out because the people that killed Derek Grinstead were trying to get him. This was...

I want to say probably 2007. And he said, you know, what should we do? You know, what should I do? And I was like, well, the police need to know. So I called and talked to, I believe it was Alan Morgan, was the deputy I talked to, and told him, you know, just basically what I'd been told, which wasn't much, just that he was very upset and that there was something, whoever it was, was after him.

three years later or something, he committed suicide. I didn't know much about it at the time. It wasn't until years later, after you started the podcast, that I heard that he had left a note that apparently had indicated...

Some people were involved in Terry Grinstead's murder. You knew this guy, right? When he was a kid, I knew him. I went to high school with his brother, his much older brother. And he told me more of something about the story, something about, you know, it's been years, but something about, said he encountered somebody on a dirt road. I got the impression it was more than one person. And somehow or another, they were connected to the death of Terry Grinstead. It's some really messed up stuff.

This was extremely graphic and terrifying. The uneasy feeling I was getting earlier came right back.

I asked him what the police did that day when he was freaking out. What did they think about this? Basically, that he was just disturbed. Like, there wasn't any truth to it. I talked to his brother, and I actually talked to somebody who went to school with him. They both said that...

He had a wreck at some point with some other guy, which was, I think, on a dirt road. There's some speculation that maybe he had some damage from the wreck that may have contributed to this, because it was after the wreck that he started withdrawing from his friends and started saying all this stuff. I don't really know the extent of the injuries or anything like that, though, but just that these claims started coming after the wreck. He said, you know, sometimes he would say things and it would seem crazy, and sometimes he would say things and it seemed like it would make sense.

This was one of two things. True or false. We know for sure this guy killed himself and left a note about Terra, but it's up to us to determine if there's any truth to it. As creepy and messed up as that story just was, I find it comforting that there might be an explanation for all this. And maybe that story, along with the context of the suicide note, simply just aren't true. Apparently this guy had been in a bad car wreck a few years prior to his suicide.

It was after that when his friend started noticing his weird behavior. He became more reclusive and began telling crazy stories about how he knew what happened to Tara and that the person or the people responsible were out to get him. It seemed like whatever the car injury was, it had to be severe enough for someone to start acting like this. I am nothing close to a doctor, but my best friend Matt is a doctor. I wanted him to weigh in on this theory. Was this the behavior of a deranged person?

Or somebody with a traumatic brain injury. Remember I was talking to you about the guy who killed himself and left that note? Yeah.

I guess a few people told me that he got in a car wreck or something. Basically, ever since the car wreck, he wasn't acting right. Yeah. Like, is there any sort of injury that he could have sustained that would make him act like that all of a sudden? Yeah, but it's it'd have to be like or to have like a really like acute personality change. You have to damage like one particular part of the brain. The famous example, if you want to look it up, is this guy, Phineas Gage was his name. He's a railroad worker.

And he set off a stick of dynamite and it blew up and a piece of the railroad went flying up through the roof of his mouth and came out the top of his head. Damn. It didn't kill him.

It didn't kill him, but he forever after that was a different person. Oh, wow. I mean, how different? How did he act? I think he was angry. He's like just kind of deserted his family. Gotcha. That's kind of how this guy was acting. Kind of deserted his friends and didn't really hang out with anybody anymore. Was real reclusive. That's interesting. You would think it had to be like an actual like in the head injury. Chronic concussion.

concussive injuries or a one time, you know, in the brain injury would make it more realistic that he would just kind of go off the rails. And you know what I'm saying? So do you think it would be more likely that he would get in a wreck and, you know, knock a screw loose in his head and start rambling off crazy stuff or start telling the truth? I mean, I think if anything, if he was in a car wreck that was particularly bad, um,

I think it probably makes you contemplate life a little bit more, like especially like end of life stuff. And so maybe that brings out feelings of guilt from like a psych perspective. But I don't know. I think if he was going to tell the truth, he was going to do it anyway. I don't think really the car wreck would send you off the rails, so to speak. Right. OK, but it's possible out there that he could have damaged something in his brain to where he just became simply guilty.

Sometimes with a bad head injury, especially inside the brain, the person can undergo a complete personality change.

The first famous case of this was the man named Phineas Gage, also known as the American Crowbar Case. In 1848, this man was working on a railroad. A stick of dynamite went off and a piece of the railroad the size of a crowbar went straight through his head. But miraculously, he survived. But from that point forward, he was forever a different person. He was angry and isolated, and he eventually started acting crazy.

Could this be what happened to the man who committed suicide in this case? It's hard to determine for sure at this moment, but the explanation for his behavior seems plausible. The GBI investigated this thing too, and I guess they felt there was nothing to it. Regardless, even if the stories were true, the man who committed suicide never implicated who Tara's killer actually was. So in my opinion, it could have been anybody. It doesn't change who we're looking for.

Anthony Vickers was charged with disorderly conduct for trying to beat Tara's door down. He claimed that Tara was not answering her phone, so he became upset because she would not respond. The Osceola police were called, and Sergeant Sean Fletcher was one of the officers who responded to the call.

Sergeant Fletcher noticed that another vehicle was parked in Tara's driveway, which may have been the real reason that Anthony became jealous after he saw the vehicle at Tara's house. At the time of the incident, no one except Tara knew who was in the house with her. It was later learned that the individual with Tara that day was Detective Heath Dykes, a detective with the Perry, Georgia Police Department.

The day after the Vickers incident, Tara went to the Osceola Police Department to get a restraining order against Vickers at Dykes Urging because he told her the boy was apparently a nut and dangerous. Sean Fletcher was the Osceola Police officer who took the report. He would not give Tara the restraining order until she told him who the person was at her house that day.

Tara didn't want to tell Sergeant Fletcher because she knew he was friends with her ex-boyfriend, Marcus Harper, and was afraid he would tell him. Fletcher assured her he wouldn't tell, but had to have the person's name to file the report. Tara told him it was Dykes, a police officer from Perry, Georgia. Marcus Harper was in Afghanistan at the time the report was filed. A couple of months after the Vickers incident, when Marcus came home, he angrily confronted Tara.

and told her about the entire incident saying Fletcher had told him. Tara filed a complaint against Sergeant Fletcher at that time for telling Marcus about the incident after assuring her he would not tell, and he was suspended from his job and almost got fired.

Heath Dykes, the Perry police officer, was inside Tara's house on the day of the Anthony Vickers incident, and Sean Fletcher was one of the arresting officers that day. Sean Fletcher is the same guy Marcus Harper was riding around with in the cop car on the night of Tara's disappearance. It's a pretty strange thing. A circle of different persons of interest in this case, all involved in this little incident that happened six months prior to her disappearance.

Tara asked Sean Fletcher to not tell Marcus Harper that Heath Dykes was in her house. The question is, why did Tara want to keep that a secret? Sean Fletcher broke protocol and told Marcus anyways. He almost lost his job over it. Shortly after Tara went missing, rumors ran wild about an affair she may have been having with Heath Dykes. Some people painted him as an innocent family friend, the guy who went to go check on her and left his business card. But some people claim that they were in a heated affair, and that there's much more to this story.

Like I've said before, to solve this we need all the facts, no matter how small, insignificant, or uncomfortable they might be. So far, this idea that Tara and Heath Dykes were having an affair has just been hearsay, but if there was any truth to it, it would definitely change things.

This is a local news report from Perry, Georgia. Heath Dykes is now the police captain in Perry.

A quick internet search took me to this video. This is from two weeks ago. There's a creek area that runs through this property that we've...

It takes a little bit more time to get through it. Dykes says every tip they've received has come up cold. Maurice had the chance to interview Heath Dykes in person back in 2006. A friend of his, a former GBI agent, helped set it up. See, I had the opportunity to interview him because their cousin, retired GBI, had briefly set it up. The thing is, she said that he couldn't do it.

The in-person interview never happened. He was only able to do it over the phone.

I asked him more about Heath Dykes being inside Tara's house on the day of the Anthony Vickers incident. After that incident, she went next door to Joe, Porter, the next door neighbor, and asked him could he park his car, his vehicle, next door so it would look like nobody was at her house. Heath was always there at the house.

After I made numerous phone calls to the Irwin County Sheriff's Department, they kept their word with me and finally sent me the dispatch logs from the night of Tara's disappearance. Marcus Harper's alibi involved multiple run-ins and stops with the man named Benny Merritt. There were no reports in Osceola, and there were no reports at the county either. These dispatch logs are the very last place these Benny Merritt incidents could be recorded. And if they're not there, then Marcus Harper's alibi simply isn't true.

Before we dive into these dispatch logs, I want to share an email that I recently received from a local in Osceola. She told me that on Monday when Tara didn't show up for school, someone told her something strange and it always stuck with her. A man that her family knew, named Joe Hilton, told her and her mother at a restaurant after school that day that Tara was missing. And they think Marcus did it, but he knows it wasn't him because he was with him all night. That definitely sounded odd to me too.

Who was Joe Hilton, and where does he fit into this alibi? I asked her if she could tell me this story over the phone for the podcast, and she did. I was 15, and I remember the day that she ditched school. It was such a big deal in Osceola because Osceola was so small.

And there's this restaurant in Osceola called Peck's. That's where everybody went after school to get a drink, get something to eat before you go home. So that's where we went, me and my mom and my brother. And at that point, I don't remember if we knew she was missing yet, but Osceola was kind of crazy. Just people everywhere, cop cars everywhere. And when we were at Peck's, we saw Joe, and he said, "'Terry Grinstead's missing.'"

They think it was Marcus, but it can't be him because I was with him all night. I don't know. It's just weird. It didn't sit well. All right. And let me make sure I have the fax number for you. Okay. All right. Give me a minute and I'll get these sent through, okay? There's going to be about, give or take, 10 pages or so. I got the dispatch logs and I called Maurice so we could review them together on the phone.

Yes. You have to look up there. It has the number. It says dispatch from 016, which is Fletcher, to D7, to D7, to D7. From time received, it's 16 minutes past midnight. And then at 0146, he's downtown. Okay. Then I see eight minutes past two o'clock.

And that's to Apricot, 111 South Apricot. That's where Bernie Merritt lived at. That's Bernie Merritt's place. So it looks like there is some truth to Marcus Harper's alibi. I saw it myself. There's two police calls for Benny Merritt. One at 2.08 a.m. and one at 2.49 a.m.

Marcus said he left the Whitehorse Saloon shortly after 1 a.m. The bar is located in Fitzgerald, about a 10-minute drive to Osceola. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, let's say he left at 1.15 in the morning. The latest he would be back in Osceola to tag up with Sean Fletcher would be around 1.30 a.m.,

Upon a second glance, I noticed one glaring piece of information in the dispatch logs. These records have corresponding numbers for each officer on duty that night, so each officer that responds to a call is listed next to the incident. The first call for Benny Merritt was at 2:08 AM, but Sean Fletcher wasn't there. Another officer was, Sergeant Kissling. On the second call, at 2:49 AM, Sean Fletcher was there.

What this means is, the first and only time we can place Marcus Harper anywhere that night is at 2.49 a.m.,

So if he left the bar at 1.15, then where was he for almost 90 minutes? It's just a weird time to do right alone. And it's so suddenly. I mean, if he did this, then he did something temporarily. Then he had to do the alibi. Then he had to take care of the business later on the next day or whatever. If he did this, he did something fast and temporarily hit it.

And then went back and took care of it as soon as he could. Because, see, he was with Joe Hilton Sunday night. It's just odd that he's riding around with these people Saturday and Sunday. But he was, he damn sure was with Joe Hilton. Joe Hilton told one of the people that Monday they had the vigil outside of her house. He said that they would never find her.

Thanks, guys, for listening to Episode 7. Up and Vanished is now back in full swing. Next Monday, there will be another Case Evidence episode, and the following Monday will be Episode 8. Starting this week, after every new episode of Up and Vanished, I'll be hosting a live Q&A for our listeners. This week, it'll be on Wednesday at 7 p.m. on Twitter. Just tag at Up and Vanished and ask your question using the hashtag AskPain. The Twitter handle is at UpandVanished.com.

And again, this is this Wednesday at 7 p.m. Also, if you're enjoying this podcast and would like to donate to the production, you can go to upandvanish.com slash donate. For exclusive content, go to upandvanish.com. This week, I'm posting the dispatch logs on the discussions page. Thank you guys for listening, and I'll see you next Monday.

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