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Adapting Robert Oppenheimer’s Story to Film, Plus Greta Gerwig on Becoming a Director

2023/7/21
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Kai Bird: 奥本海默的故事是其辉煌成就与悲剧性垮台的结合。他领导曼哈顿计划研制出原子弹,为二战胜利做出了巨大贡献,但也因其对原子弹使用的矛盾态度和左翼政治背景而遭到政治迫害。他的经历反映了科学家在科学发现与社会责任之间的复杂关系,以及政治环境对科学家的影响。他后来的遭遇也警示了科学家在公共领域发声的风险。 David Remnick: 访谈围绕奥本海默的生平展开,探讨了其在曼哈顿计划中的作用,对原子弹投放的看法,以及他后来的政治迫害。访谈中,Bird 详细阐述了奥本海默的政治观点、与共产主义的关联以及他与政府之间的冲突。访谈也探讨了奥本海默的道德困境,以及他作为公共知识分子的角色。

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Christopher Nolan's 'Oppenheimer' is based on the Pulitzer Prize-winning biography 'American Prometheus' by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwin. Kai Bird discusses Nolan's faithfulness to the book and the complexities of J. Robert Oppenheimer's life.

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In making “Oppenheimer,” which opens in theatres this weekend, the director Christopher Nolan relied on a Pulitzer Prize-winning 2005 biography of the father of the atomic bomb, “American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer,” by Kai Bird and the late Martin J. Sherwin. Bird is credited as a writer of Nolan’s movie, and he spoke with David Remnick about the ambivalence that the scientist expressed publicly about the use of the bomb, which led to a McCarthyist show trial that destroyed his career and reputation.  “What happened to him in 1954 sent a message to several generations of scientists, here in America but [also] abroad, that scientists should keep in their narrow lane. They shouldn’t become public intellectuals, and if they dared to do this, they could be tarred and feathered,” Bird notes. “The same thing that happened to Oppenheimer in a sense happened to Tony Fauci.”

Plus, Greta Gerwig talks about her path to directing. Like “Barbie,” Gerwig’s two previous films as a director and writer are concerned with coming of age as a woman. Once criticized as a “bossy girl,” Gerwig recalls, she tamped down her instinct to direct, focusing early in her career on acting and then screenwriting. She told David Remnick how she finally gave herself permission to be a filmmaker.