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Ava DuVernay Wants Her Film “Origin” to Influence the 2024 Election

2024/1/8
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Ava DuVernay: 本片旨在探讨美国社会深层次的种族问题和社会结构,并希望借此引发公众对美国历史的反思。她认为电影《起源》打破了传统的电影制作规则,以独特的叙事方式呈现了伊莎贝尔·威尔克森对种姓制度的研究过程,旨在让观众更深刻地理解种姓制度的内涵及其对社会的影响。她希望这部电影能够在2024年美国总统大选之前上映,以促进公众对美国历史的反思和关注,并为改变社会现状贡献力量。她还谈到了电影制作过程中遇到的挑战,以及她对电影发行方式的思考。她认为,电影的政治性和信息传递比纯粹的审美效果更重要,宁愿让更多人通过小屏幕看到这部电影,也不愿让少数人在大屏幕上观看。她还谈到了黑人电影在国际发行方面面临的挑战,并表示她将努力解决这个问题。 David Remnick: 他与阿娃·杜威内就电影《起源》进行了深入的探讨,涉及到电影的主题、叙事方式、制作过程以及社会意义等方面。他认为,在当下这个时刻,与美国的过去进行较量,无论是在电影还是其他任何媒介中,都显得至关重要。他与阿娃·杜威内讨论了电影中对种姓制度的探讨,以及电影如何平衡个人记忆与集体记忆。他还探讨了电影的商业性和艺术性之间的关系,以及电影如何触及到不同观众群体的思考。 Isabel Wilkerson: 她认为,种姓制度是一个更深层次的概念,它超越了种族,解释了社会压迫的根源。她认为我们需要新的语言和框架来理解社会分裂以及其历史根源。她还解释了种姓制度的内涵,以及它与种族和阶级之间的关系。她认为种姓制度是社会分裂的基础,它决定了社会地位、尊重和资源分配。

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Ava DuVernay discusses her filmmaking journey, highlighting her acclaimed films 'Selma' and '13th', and her approach to tackling challenging historical topics.

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The filmmaker Ava DuVernay has a reputation for tackling challenging material about America’s troubled past. She depicted the bloody fight to achieve equal voting rights for African Americans in her 2014 film “Selma”; examined the prison-industrial complex in her 2016 Peabody Award-winning documentary “13th”; and portrayed the wrongful conviction of five teen-age boys of color in the miniseries “When They See Us.” But “Origin,” her first narrative feature film in five years, may be her most ambitious work to date. “This breaks every screenwriting rule, every rule of filmmaking that I know,” DuVernay tells David Remnick. “Origin” is an adaptation of the journalist Isabel Wilkerson’s best-seller “Caste),” a complex analysis of racism and social structures. “Caste” lacks a cinematic narrative structure, and so “Origin” positions Wilkerson as its subject as she navigates the intellectual journey of the book. DuVernay felt compelled to make this movie now, in part because she thought that its message would be vital for audiences in a Presidential election year when the understanding of America’s past is very much at issue. “We have to wake up and focus—focus on what is happening,” DuVernay says. “And I want this film to contribute to that conversation.”