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Bret Baier On Trump’s Love-Hate Relationship with Fox News

2025/6/27
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David Remnick: 福克斯新闻与特朗普总统的关系非常密切，甚至具有深远的影响。特朗普总统经常在网上实时回应福克斯新闻的报道，即使只是为了抱怨他不喜欢的民调。他还任命了福克斯新闻的许多人担任政府要职。福克斯新闻对特朗普总统与他的支持者的关系，甚至对他的议程都有着巨大的影响。最近有报道称，福克斯新闻对伊朗-以色列冲突的报道影响了特朗普总统决定介入这场冲突的决定。虽然福克斯新闻的右翼评论员经常占据头条新闻，但布雷特·拜尔主持的《特别报道》对保守派媒体来说至关重要。 Bret Baier: 我不认为媒体之间存在敌对关系，我有很多在所谓的主流媒体工作的朋友，我尽量以公正的方式报道新闻。我专注于我的新闻节目，力求提供一个公正的新闻和分析，让观众无论政治立场如何，都能从中了解美国和世界正在发生的事情。我本来也可以在CBS或NBC新闻工作。我有自己的政治观点，但我的工作不是在情感上支持某个议题。我不参与投票。我的工作是呈现各方观点，让观众自己做决定。采访的关键在于倾听答案，抓住新的要点，然后进行引导。特朗普总统有时会试图用他的观点压倒你，但他最终会回答问题。我一直以公平但强硬的态度对待对特朗普的采访，他也逐渐接受了这一点。在采访中，我会尽力核实事实，但实时核实信息非常具有挑战性。我认为与总统进行非正式的交流，有助于我更好地了解他的想法和决策。所有政客在私下里和公开场合的表现都有所不同。特朗普总统接受的媒体提问比拜登总统更多。我始终指出特朗普输掉了2020年大选。特朗普可能会辩称，由于对亨特·拜登笔记本电脑的报道，选举被窃取。尽管有些人认为选举中存在舞弊行为，但没有足够的选票来改变结果。特朗普总统希望成为每个故事的焦点。特朗普的性格特点就是反击和先发制人。特朗普与媒体的关系就像一场猫鼠游戏。我希望特朗普总统不要再使用“人民公敌”这个词。特朗普触及了美国社会中一些媒体没有意识到的东西。我认为我对特朗普和哈里斯的采访都提出了强硬的问题。我觉得哈里斯副总统在采访前试图制造一种紧张气氛。福克斯新闻的评论员们有不同的工作，他们从倡导的角度出发，经常会煽风点火。事实本身并不取决于观点，但在呈现方式上可能会受到影响。我专注于我的新闻节目，并努力做到最好。如果MSNBC有一个新闻节目，并且允许我担任执行编辑，我可以接受在那里工作。我对目前在福克斯新闻的工作感到满意，并且认为我们正在推动新闻发展。我希望其他频道也能有更多像“特别报道”这样的新闻节目。

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This chapter introduces Bret Baier and his role as a Fox News anchor. It explores his career path, his views on the media landscape, and his approach to journalism. Baier discusses his impartiality and the complexity of his position in the current media environment.
  • Bret Baier has worked at Fox News for 27 years.
  • He emphasizes his impartiality and fair reporting.
  • He's covered various beats, including the Southeast, South America, the Pentagon, and the White House.

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The relationship between Fox News and Donald Trump is not just close; it can be profoundly influential. Trump frequently responds to segments in real time online—even to complain about a poll he doesn’t like. He has tapped the network for nearly two dozen roles within his Administration—including the current Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth), a former Fox News host. The network is also seen as having an outsized impact on his relationship with his base, and even on his agenda. Most recently, it’s been reported that Fox News’ coverage of the Iran-Israel conflict) played a role in Trump’s decision to enter that fight. And while the network’s right-wing commentators—from Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham to Mark Levin—tend to grab the most headlines and stand as the ideological coloring of the network, “Special Report,” Fox’s 6 P.M. broadcast, anchored by Bret Baier, is essential to the conservative-media complex. Baier draws more than three million viewers a night, at times surpassing legacy brands like “CBS Evening News,” despite being available in half as many homes. Baier insists on his impartiality, but his network’s reputation as an outlet for the right and its connection to President Trump himself can make his job representing the news arm of the network more challenging. And, when it comes to Trump and his relationship to the media, Baier tells David Remnick, “I think it is this cat-and-mouse game. You know, for all of the things he says about the media . . . he’s reaching out and doing interviews with the same people he says are nasty.”