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E. Jean Carroll on Trump Defamation Cases: “Money Is Precious to Him”

2024/1/19
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E. Jean Carroll:特朗普对她的诽谤不仅伤害了她个人,也伤害了所有遭受过性侵犯的女性。她认为,让特朗普为他的谎言付出代价是阻止他继续诽谤的有效方法,金钱对他来说至关重要。她对美国司法体系仍然抱有信心,并表示将致力于帮助其他没有她这样平台的女性追究施暴者的责任。 Roberta Kaplan:特朗普是一个惯于撒谎的人,并且随着时间的推移谎言会越来越恶劣。陪审团认定特朗普撒谎,而E. Jean Carroll和其他证人说的是实话。她认为特朗普不太可能停止对E. Jean Carroll的攻击,因为他缺乏自我控制能力,虽然金钱损失可能会对他产生影响,但这对他来说可能只是九牛一毛。 David Remnick:主持访谈,引导话题,并对案件背景进行补充说明。 Gilbert Seldes:(文章节选)对沃尔特·迪士尼的生平和创作进行描述,与主题无关,但作为节目内容的一部分。

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E. Jean Carroll discusses the impact of the court's decision on her life and her plans to help other women hold men accountable for their actions.

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After winning the Iowa caucuses by a historic margin, Donald Trump made his way to a courtroom in New York, where a jury was selected in a second defamation trial involving E. Jean Carroll. In May, 2023, after a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse, David Remnick spoke with Carroll and her attorney Roberta Kaplan. Trump continues to attack Carroll on social media, even during the ongoing court proceedings to determine damages. “I don’t think he can help himself, honestly,” Kaplan tells Remick. “I don’t think he has enough development in the frontal lobe of his brain to do that.” Plus, to mark the copyright expiration on the classic Mickey Mouse, we’ve resurrected a 1931 Profile of Walt Disney from The New Yorker archives, which has some prescient things to say about the iconic character and its creator.

The interview with E. Jean Carroll and Roberta Kaplan first aired in May, 2023.