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From the Archive: St. Vincent’s Seduction

2024/12/18
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Annie Clark: 我的音乐风格从早期的摇滚乐转向了更复杂、多层次且具有诱惑力的风格。新专辑《Mass Education》探索了权力及其光明与阴暗面,包括毒品、性以及悲伤。为了创作,我需要清除生活中除了创作之外的一切,否则抑郁会吞噬我。从小我就焦虑,并通过创作来应对。我曾依靠药物来应对焦虑和抑郁,但我并不反对抗抑郁药。我认为某些吉他演奏是为了炫耀而非歌曲本身,我更希望吉他演奏能带来不适感和破坏性。我不希望吉他演奏成为掩饰自负的方式。有些歌曲创作过程轻松,而有些则需要艰苦的努力。我坚信艺术可以改变人们的思想,使他们更有人性和同理心。我认为艺术可以抚慰焦虑和恐惧,让人感受到归属感。在舞台表演中,建立坚实的结构和基础架构很重要,这让我在情感表达上更有安全感。舞台表演有时让我沉浸其中,有时又让我感到分离。我喜欢做让我害怕的事情。我选择在活动中演唱我作品中最悲伤的歌曲。 David Remnick: St. Vincent 的音乐风格从早期的摇滚乐转向了更复杂、多层次且具有诱惑力的风格,并与大卫·鲍伊相比较。

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Why did St. Vincent choose 'Mass Seduction' as the title track of her album?

The song serves as a thesis for the album, encapsulating its themes and characters, exploring both the glamorous and grim sides of power, including sex, drugs, and sadness.

What was the primary focus of St. Vincent's new album 'Mass Seduction'?

The album explores themes of power, its alluring aspects, and its darker sides, delving into subjects like sex, drugs, and sadness.

How did St. Vincent describe her creative process during the making of 'Mass Seduction'?

She needed to radically reorganize her life to clear a path for creativity, avoiding depression that could have swallowed her completely.

What role did anxiety and depression play in St. Vincent's life during the creation of her album?

She has been an anxious person since childhood, and during the album's creation, she relied on pills to manage anxiety and depression, though she doesn't overstate this reliance.

Why has St. Vincent moved away from conventional guitar instrumentation in her music?

She is less interested in guitar playing as a display of pride and more focused on using the guitar to create uncomfortable, disruptive sounds that serve the song.

How does St. Vincent describe the emotional impact of her music on stage?

Performing can be transcendent, allowing her to relive the heartbreak of her songs, but it can also feel like work, requiring structure and focus on the audience's experience.

What inspired St. Vincent to direct a film adaptation of 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'?

She was approached by Lionsgate to adapt the story with a female protagonist in modern times, and she accepted only if she could work with screenwriter David Burke, known for 'Elle'.

What was the plot of St. Vincent's short film 'The Birthday Party'?

It involves a mother hiding her dead husband's body in a bear suit during her daughter's birthday party, leading to a comedic yet dark reveal.

How does St. Vincent feel about performing covers of other artists' songs?

She rarely performs covers because she doesn't know how to play other people's songs, though she occasionally does, like 'I Dig a Pony' by The Beatles.

What does St. Vincent believe is the role of art in society?

She believes art, music, and theater change people's minds, make them more human, and remind them of their own and others' humanity.

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This chapter explores St. Vincent's musical journey, from her early career as a guitar shredder to her current sound, characterized by layered, catchy, and seductive songs. It delves into her creative process, the themes of her new album "MassEducation," and her personal struggles that shaped her music.
  • St. Vincent's evolution from a guitar virtuoso to a more nuanced artist
  • The themes of power, its positive and negative aspects, in her album "MassEducation"
  • The role of personal struggles in her creative process

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Annie Clark, known as St. Vincent, launched her career as a guitar virtuoso—a real shredder—in indie rock, playing alongside artists like Sufjan Stevens. As a bandleader, she’s moved away from the explosive solos, telling David Remnick, “There’s a certain amount of guitar playing that is about pride, that isn’t about the song. . . . I’m not that interested in guitar being a means of poorly covered-up pride.” Her songs are dense, challenging, and not always easy, but catchy and seductive. Remnick caught up with Clark before the launch of her new album, “MASSEDUCTION.”  They talked about the clarity of purpose she needed in order to “clear a path” to write the “glamorously sad songs” she’s become known for.

This segment originally aired on October 13, 2017.