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Georgia’s Brad Raffensperger, Who Refused to “Find” Votes for Donald Trump, Prepares for Another Election

2024/4/30
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Donald Trump:在2020年大选后,特朗普多次要求佐治亚州务卿拉芬斯珀格伪造选票,以使其赢得佐治亚州的选举。他认为选举结果存在舞弊,并试图施压拉芬斯珀格改变选举结果。特朗普的言行激怒了众多共和党人,并引发了对选举诚信的质疑。 David Remnick:采访者David Remnick与拉芬斯珀格进行了深入的访谈,探讨了2020年大选后拉芬斯珀格面临的压力和挑战。他详细描述了特朗普的施压行为,以及拉芬斯珀格拒绝这一要求后所面临的死亡威胁。采访还涉及到针对特朗普的选举干预案,以及佐治亚州选举的公正性问题。 Brad Raffensperger:拉芬斯珀格坚称佐治亚州的选举是公正和准确的,并提供了大量数据来支持他的说法。他拒绝了特朗普的要求,并强调自己作为州务卿的职责是遵守法律和宪法。他还谈到了自己面临的死亡威胁,以及在2020年大选后为维护选举诚信所做的努力。他表示,自己专注于2024年大选的准备工作,并致力于确保选举的公平公正。 Donald Trump: 在2020年美国总统大选中,特朗普声称选举舞弊,并试图通过施压佐治亚州官员来改变选举结果。他与佐治亚州务卿拉芬斯珀格的通话录音成为针对他的敲诈勒索案的关键证据。特朗普的行为激怒了共和党内的许多人,并引发了对选举诚信的广泛质疑。他的言论和行为对美国政治和社会造成了深远的影响,并加剧了政治极化。 David Remnick: David Remnick作为采访者,在访谈中深入探讨了2020年大选后佐治亚州的政治局势以及拉芬斯珀格所面临的挑战。他关注的焦点包括特朗普对拉芬斯珀格的施压,拉芬斯珀格所面临的死亡威胁,以及佐治亚州选举的公正性问题。Remnick的提问引导拉芬斯珀格对这些问题进行回应,并展现了佐治亚州选举在当时所面临的政治压力。 Brad Raffensperger: 拉芬斯珀格在访谈中强调了佐治亚州选举的公正性,并提供了数据来支持他的说法。他详细描述了在2020年大选后,自己和家人所面临的死亡威胁,以及他为维护选举诚信所做的努力。他坚持认为自己作为州务卿的职责是遵守法律和宪法,并拒绝了特朗普的施压。拉芬斯珀格的经历凸显了在政治压力下维护选举诚信的重要性。

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Brad Raffensperger, who holds the usually low-profile office of secretary of state in Georgia, became famous after he recorded a phone call with Donald Trump. Shortly after the 2020 election, Trump demanded that Georgia officials “find 11,780 votes” so that he could win the state. The recorded phone conversation is a linchpin in the Fulton County racketeering case against Trump. Refusing that demand, Raffensperger—a lifelong Republican—received death threats from enraged Trumpists, and the state senate still wants to investigate him for it. But the politician tells David Remnick that he hasn’t lost faith in his party. He believes he can convince election deniers of the fairness of Georgia’s methods. And, by the way, that story line on “Curb Your Enthusiasm”* *about the Georgia crime of giving a person water while they wait in line to vote? Raffensperger has a suggestion for Larry David.