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John Fetterman on Trump’s “Raw Sewage,” and What the Democrats Get Wrong

2025/2/21
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John Fetterman: 我与特朗普总统会面,是为寻找合作的可能性。我认为民主党在中期选举失利,部分原因是疏远了男性选民,特别是白人男性。我批评特朗普政府的混乱,这会让选民在下次选举中远离他们。我投票支持Pam Bondi,是因为当时的气氛发生了变化,许多同事试图寻找更传统和合格的人选。我并不认为特朗普关于美国‘拥有’加沙的言论是认真的,我认为这只是为了挑衅。我认为许多专家对中东局势的预测是错误的,以色列的做法是正确的。我支持以色列,因为我认为这是捍卫民主的战争。我不认为我们现在正处于宪法危机中,但如果政府公然违抗法院裁决,那就是宪法危机。我认为民主党需要诚实的政治家,而不是只顾喊叫和表演的政治家。民主党在边境问题上犯了错误,并将为此付出代价。我认为特朗普政府的混乱行为如同向系统中倾倒了大量的污水,而我们只有一个小杯子来处理。我不希望我们的党派变成只注重表演的党派。我是一个糟糕的共和党人,因为我坚定地支持堕胎权利、LGBTQ+群体,并且反对普京和俄罗斯。我认为民主党应该找到更有效的方法来应对特朗普,而不是使用那些没有效果的策略。 David Remnick: 在采访中,我与费特曼参议员就其与特朗普的会面、他对民主党的批评、他对当前政治局势的看法以及他对一些具体问题的立场进行了探讨。我特别关注了他对特朗普政府的评价,以及他对民主党在中期选举失利的原因分析。我还就他对加沙局势、对乌克兰战争以及对美国国内政治的看法向他提问。

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Senator John Fetterman's actions since his election have been anything but conventional. He's met with Donald Trump, joined Truth Social, and voted to confirm Pam Bondi as Attorney General—actions that have set him apart from his fellow Democrats. This chapter explores his reasoning behind these choices and the reactions they elicited.
  • Fetterman's meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
  • Joining Truth Social
  • Sole Democrat vote to confirm Pam Bondi as Attorney General
  • Fetterman's justification for his actions as doing his job and seeking common ground

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Since the election, Senator John Fetterman—once a great hope of progressives—has conspicuously blamed Democrats for the electoral loss. Fetterman tells David Remnick that the Democratic Party discouraged male voters, particularly white men. He has pursued a lonely course of bipartisanship by meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago before his Inauguration, joining Truth Social, and voting to confirm Pam Bondi as Attorney General—the only Democrat to do so. But, despite Trump’s relatively high approval ratings, he lambasts the Administration for the “chaos” it is currently sowing in America. Fetterman sympathizes with voters’ widespread disgust with contemporary politicking. “Unlimited money has turned all of us in some way into all OnlyFans models,” he says. “We’re all just online hustling for money.”