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Josh Shapiro on How Kamala Harris Can Win Pennsylvania

2024/9/13
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乔什·夏皮罗：宾夕法尼亚州历届总统大选都非常胶着，2016年特朗普以微弱优势获胜，2020年拜登也只赢了8万票。要赢得宾夕法尼亚州，光靠民主党选民是不够的，还需要争取中间派选民和共和党人。宾夕法尼亚州是一个‘零售州’，候选人必须亲自走访各地与选民见面。哈里斯-沃尔兹竞选团队不仅在费城和匹兹堡等大城市活动，也积极前往宾夕法尼亚州的农村地区争取选民。宾夕法尼亚州的民众非常友善，即使他们不会投票给你，也愿意听你说话，了解你的政策。哈里斯关于页岩气开采的立场转变，并非软弱的表现，而是倾听民意的体现。她认识到页岩气开采对宾夕法尼亚州经济的重要性。政治人物改变立场并不一定是坏事，重要的是要能够清楚地解释原因。特朗普经常改变立场，这是一种政治策略，而非基于深思熟虑。特朗普为了迎合不同人群而改变说法，这与哈里斯基于认真思考而改变立场有本质区别。特朗普攻击他人的目的是为了制造分裂，煽动社会矛盾。特朗普的行为违背了基本的道德准则，他利用言论煽动仇恨，散布反犹太主义言论。我不愿透露与哈里斯的私人谈话内容，因为这涉及到保密责任。我为自己的信仰感到自豪，但不会让信仰影响我的政策观点。我和哈里斯之间的对话中，宗教信仰并没有起到任何作用。谴责基于信仰的仇恨行为应该是非黑即白的，但在中东政策问题上则需要细致的考量。我谴责哈马斯的恐怖主义行为，同时也同情加沙人民的苦难。我认为应该同时关注以色列和加沙的受害者，并努力促成两国解决方案。人们有权和平抗议，但必须遵守社区规则。抗议者有权表达观点，但不能危及他人的安全或妨碍正常的社会秩序。大学有责任确保校园安全，保障所有学生的安全。我不受外界评价的影响，会继续按照自己的方式行事。哈里斯需要继续阐述她的经济政策，与特朗普形成鲜明对比。哈里斯和沃尔兹应该继续强调他们的经济政策，特别是与特朗普的对比。特朗普对儿童保育问题的回答令人失望，缺乏具体的解决方案。哈里斯-沃尔兹竞选团队拥有更好的候选人和更清晰的愿景。 David Remnick: 对宾夕法尼亚州大选的分析，以及对夏皮罗政治观点的探讨。

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Pennsylvania's 19 electoral votes make it a key battleground state in the 2024 presidential election. While historically leaning slightly blue, the state has become deeply purple, making it crucial for candidates to appeal to a broad range of voters. Governor Josh Shapiro discusses the importance of retail politics and engaging with voters across the state, including in rural areas often overlooked by campaigns.
  • Pennsylvania holds 19 electoral votes, making it a critical swing state.
  • The state has shifted from slightly blue to deeply purple, requiring candidates to appeal to a broad base.
  • Governor Shapiro highlights the importance of retail politics and engaging with voters in rural areas.

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In 2024, all eyes are on Pennsylvania: its nineteen electoral votes make it the largest swing state, and it’s considered a critical battleground for either Donald Trump) or Kamala Harris) to win the White House. For many years, Pennsylvania trended slightly blue, but the state has become deeply purple—with a divided state House and a series of razor-thin margins in general elections. One notable exception to this was the 2022 Pennsylvania governor’s race. The Democrat Josh Shapiro won by almost fifteen points against a Trump-aligned Republican, and his approval ratings in the state remain high. “To win in Pennsylvania, you’re not winning with only Democrats,” Shapiro told David Remnick. “You’ve got to get like-minded Independents and Republicans.” Shapiro was on the shortlist of candidates for Harris’s pick for Vice-President—which may be the cause of attacks from Donald Trump, including one calling him an “overrated Jewish governor.” He spoke with Remnick to talk about Harris’s choice) of Minnesota’s governor, Tim Walz), as her running mate, and what it takes for a Democrat to win Pennsylvania. “We’re a big state, but we’re still a retail state,” Shapiro said, “meaning you got to show up!”

 

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