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Lesley Stahl on What a Settlement with Donald Trump Would Mean for CBS News

2025/5/30
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David Remnick: 特朗普对CBS提起200亿美元的诉讼,理由是《60分钟》对卡玛拉·哈里斯的采访进行了不当编辑。尽管法律依据薄弱,但CBS的母公司派拉蒙为了顺利出售公司,正积极寻求与特朗普达成和解。这种做法实际上是对特朗普的妥协和让步,损害了新闻机构的独立性。 Lesley Stahl: 特朗普起诉CBS的真正目的是为了震慑我们,让我们噤声。他过去就曾通过攻击媒体来削弱其公信力。现在,他通过诉讼来进一步施压,而一些媒体机构也确实屈服了。我对派拉蒙为了商业利益而可能选择妥协感到担忧,这不仅是对《60分钟》的打击,更是对新闻自由的威胁。我希望未来的所有者能够理解并尊重媒体的独立性,但现实情况让我对整个新闻行业的未来感到悲观。

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Lesley Stahl, a linchpin of CBS News, began at the network in 1971, covering major events such as Watergate, and for many years has been a correspondent on “60 Minutes.” But right now it’s a perilous time for CBS News, which has been sued by Donald Trump for twenty billion dollars over the editing of a “60 Minutes” interview with Kamala Harris during the 2024 Presidential campaign. Its owner, Paramount, seems likely to settle, and corporate pressure on journalists at CBS has been so intense that Bill Owens, the executive producer of “60 Minutes,” and Wendy McMahon, the head of CBS News, resigned in protest. Owens’s departure was “a punch in the stomach,” Stahl tells David Remnick in a recent interview, “one of those punches where you almost can’t breathe.” And far worse could happen in a settlement with Trump, which would compromise the integrity of the premier investigative program on broadcast news. “I’m already beginning to think about mourning, grieving,” Stahl says. “I know there’s going to be a settlement. . . . And then we will hopefully still be around, turning a new page, and finding out what that new page is going to look like.” Although she describes herself as “Pollyannaish,” Stahl acknowledges that she is “pessimistic about the future for all press today. . . . The public has lost faith in us as an institution. So we’re in very dark times.”