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Miranda July’s New Novel Takes on Marriage, Desire, and Perimenopause

2024/5/21
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Miranda July: 这本书是关于一个处于中年女性的真实写照,探讨了身体变化、更年期、欲望、婚姻和为人母等方面,以及这些因素如何不再和谐地融合在一起。作者在40多岁时开始对未来感到一种新的、灰暗的感觉,这与她以往积极乐观的态度形成对比,部分原因是关于生育年龄的信息很多,而关于中年和更年期的信息却很少。作者在接近中年时,积极地向其他女性学习关于未来可能发生的事情,并将其记录下来。虽然有很多关于女性在这一年龄段的写作,但鲜有作品具体地、全面地描述所有相关方面,这成为了她创作的动力。作者在写作过程中,自身经历也发生了变化,这影响了小说的创作。作者与其他女性、妇科医生和自然疗法医生以及已经经历过更年期的女性进行了交流,这些信息最初构成了手册的雏形,后来被融入小说中,并被叙述者的欲望所扭曲。 更年期荷尔蒙波动,可能让人更了解自己,为人生后半段做好准备,如果错过这个机会,人生后半段可能会很痛苦。作者认为自己是一名优秀的性描写作家,因为她能捕捉到性行为中怪异、不真实和真实并存的方面。作者对性描写中身体和心理的区分很感兴趣,认为性既包含身体的体验,也包含心理的幻想。性描写需要真实,包括描写性欲减退的时刻。 作者认为舞蹈一直存在于她的作品中,但随着年龄增长,舞蹈的意义更加丰富。作者的舞蹈经历丰富了其对舞蹈的理解,并影响了其写作。除了质疑之外,这个年龄段的另一个特点是,她可能通过毕生的艺术创作,了解了一些事情。舞蹈是超越语言沟通的一种方式,可以消除人与人之间的隔阂。舞蹈是作者写作中重要的载体,帮助她表达身体、欲望和对特定人物的感受。 Alexandra Schwartz: 提问:作者如何看待分离作为人生阶段的可能性?提问:舞蹈在作者生活和写作中的地位?

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Some time in her forties, something shifted in Miranda July. She started having “this new, grim feeling about the future, which was weird, because I’m, like, a very excited, hopeful person,” she tells New Yorker staff writer Alexandra Schwartz, who recently profiled July) for the magazine. July attributes some of that “feeling” to the disparity between all the information there was about her reproductive years, and how little there was about middle age and perimenopause. “If it’s stories that we need, you know, dibs. Dibs on menopause,” she tells Schwartz. July’s explorations and conversations with other women made their way into her new novel, “All Fours,” about a woman who upends her life and her marriage, and her sense of who she is and who she’ll be in the second half of her life. Miranda July is fifty now, and she is taking some pages from her own book.