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Spike Lee on His “Dream Project,” a Joe Louis Bio-Pic

2023/10/20
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斯派克·李:我的父亲是一位才华横溢的贝斯手,但他坚持只演奏自己喜欢的直立式贝斯,即使这意味着失去许多演出机会和经济收入。这让我理解到,在艺术创作中,坚持自我,不向商业妥协是多么重要。这种精神也影响着我的电影创作,我始终坚持自己的艺术表达,不为迎合好莱坞而改变。我从父亲那里学到了很多,包括他那种坚定不移的信念。 我的成长环境充满艺术气息,父母鼓励我追求艺术梦想,这让我能够自然而然地走上艺术道路。成为一名电影导演需要比其他艺术形式更多的人力、物力和财力支持,也需要具备领导才能。我意识到好莱坞传统的晋升途径对黑人电影人并不适用,所以选择去电影学校学习。在纽约大学电影学院,我接触到世界电影,拓宽了我的视野,让我超越好莱坞的模式进行思考。 我的第一部电影《她有本事》的资金是我自己筹集的,这体现了我的独立性和对电影创作的热情。这部电影的灵感来源于黑泽明电影《罗生门》,我尝试用不同的视角来展现同一个事件。即使在80年代,我也难以获得所有我想拍摄的电影的资金,好莱坞仍然存在许多挑战。好莱坞有色人种电影人的数量有所增加,但仍然存在不平等,因此奋斗仍在继续。我感到自己有责任为其他有色人种电影人提供职业机会。 我的电影具有独特的视觉风格,这与我与优秀摄影师的合作密不可分。我们共同开发并完善了“双摇摄”镜头技巧,并使其具有叙事意义。在电影中,我们经常使用一些创新性的拍摄手法,例如人物直接对镜头说话、重复的镜头剪辑等。随着年龄的增长,我仍然拥有丰富的创作灵感,但最大的挑战在于资金筹措。我的梦想项目是拍摄一部关于乔·路易斯的传记电影,我已经为此努力了很长时间。在纪录片制作中,我需要审核大量的素材,这需要投入大量的时间和精力。 我认为丹泽尔·华盛顿是当今最伟大的演员,他拥有强大的力量、敏锐的感知力和人文关怀。我希望自己的导演生涯能够像黑泽明一样长久。 David Remnick: 作为访谈者,Remnick 主要负责引导话题,提出问题,并对 Spike Lee 的回答进行回应和补充。他并没有表达自己明确的观点,而是通过提问来引导 Lee 展开叙述,并对 Lee 的经历和观点进行深入了解。

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Spike Lee discusses his father's influence, his early life, and how his family's artistic environment shaped his uncompromising approach to filmmaking.

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The director Spike Lee looked back at the length and breadth of his career so far during a sit-down with David Remnick at the New Yorker Festival. Although Lee’s storied filmography may be familiar to movie buffs, few are likely to know as much about his humble beginnings as the scion of a celebrated, but often unemployed, musician—the late Bill Lee. The young Spike Lee bore some resentment toward his father, an upright-bass player who eschewed countless gigs because he refused to play an electric bass guitar. “[I]t wasn’t until later that I saw that, yo, this is his life. He was not going to play music that he didn’t want to play.” As an artist in his own right, Lee has taken a similar approach to filmmaking. He has tackled a myriad of genres and difficult subject matter, without sacrificing his unique voice and social consciousness to satisfy Hollywood. “Some things you just can’t compromise,” he told Remnick. Now in his fourth decade as a filmmaker, Lee hopes to one day make a long-gestating bio-pic about Joe Louis and have his career last as long as that of one of his idols. “Kurosawa was eighty-six!” the sixty-six-year-old Lee said, of the Japanese filmmaker’s retirement age. “I have to at least get to Kurosawa.” 

Plus, the sports writer Louisa Thomas talks with the New Yorker Radio Hour’s Adam Howard about the stars to watch in the N.B.A.’s new season. 

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