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Talking to Conservatives about Climate Change

2023/8/18
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David Remnick: 本期节目讨论了共和党对气候变化的不同态度,以及应对气候变化的策略。一些共和党议员承认气候变化的现实,但他们反对联邦政府采取紧急行动。 Marionette Miller-Meeks: 快速地改变能源结构而不考虑经济承受能力和能源供应的可用性,并不是一个可行的方案。我们需要在气候、环境和能源问题上寻求务实方案,在经济增长和环境保护之间取得平衡。所有能源生产都应该进行全生命周期碳排放分析。核能是减少排放的一种选择,小型模块化反应堆更安全。政府的能源政策存在矛盾,例如限制铀矿开采的同时又强调国内能源生产。许可改革和责任改革对于清洁能源未来至关重要。反对《通胀削减法》中强制性政策,例如电动汽车普及目标。其对碳基燃料的观点基于研究,不受政治捐款影响。与选民沟通时,避免危言耸听,强调务实方案。反对激进的气候政策,认为其会损害经济和民众生活。认为一些关于气候危机的预测夸大其词,导致政策制定者失去公信力。 Elizabeth Kolbert: 气候变化的现实及其影响。 Ben Jealous: 民权运动和气候倡导之间存在共通之处,两者都关乎正义和公平。解决气候变化问题需要同时解决贫困问题。《通胀削减法》可以创造就业机会,这对于争取红州选民的支持至关重要。环保议题与就业和医疗保健等民生议题密切相关。年轻一代对气候变化的认识更清晰,而老年一代则受到误导信息的影响。石油和天然气行业通过误导信息制造文化战争,阻碍气候行动。环保组织需要与选民进行有效的沟通,才能对抗石油和天然气行业的影响力。环保组织需要用更易于理解的方式向公众宣传环保理念。环保组织需要改进沟通策略,才能更好地与公众沟通。对拜登政府在环境问题上的表现给予肯定,但也指出其不足之处。需要警惕共和党削弱《通胀削减法》的企图。通过有效的组织和沟通,可以缩小气候行动的政治可能性与实际需求之间的差距。

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David Remnick discusses the impact of record-breaking heat and disasters, questioning whether this will be a turning point for climate action or if the world will continue to ignore the crisis.

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Even in a summer of record-breaking heat and disasters, Republican Presidential candidates have ignored or mocked climate change. But some conservative legislators in Congress recognize that action is necessary. David Remnick talks with a leader of the Conservative Climate Caucus about her party’s stance on climate change, her belief that fossil fuels cannot be rapidly phased out, and the problems she sees with the Inflation Reduction Act. Then, the authoritative climate reporter Elizabeth Kolbert talks with Ben Jealous, who was recently named executive director of the Sierra Club, about his strategy for building support in Republican-led states.