The Power of Ambiguity w/ Dr. Anita Phillips
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I am not of the belief that saying yes to God means a life full of nothing but heartbreak and pain. Thank God for Jesus. Are we going to say thank God for Jesus? I don't know. I'm learning to stand in power in ambiguity.

I have the power to affect my perspective on the future that I don't know yet, and I choose to be excited. What's up, delegation? It's your girl, Sarah Jakes Roberts, and I want to know how are you doing? What is going on in your world? Deep sigh. I know I'm asking like I can actually hear, but let's just, you answer it for yourself. How are you? Do you need a feelings wheel?

Are you feeling happy and excited? Are you overwhelmed? Are you nervous? Are you afraid? Are you concerned? I break out my feelings, Will, whenever I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is I'm feeling. And you would be surprised how...

powerful it is to be able to just answer the question for yourself, to be able to say, man, I am actually concerned. I'm actually happy. Sometimes we're so caught up just making our lives work and come together that we miss out on checking in with ourselves. Annoyed, jubilant. I've got my feelings well up now. Amused, satisfied, pleased, speechless.

Answer the question, how are you doing? I will answer myself. I am recording this on a Saturday, the Saturday before he got up. He gets up on tomorrow and I had to sign 3,000 book plates for Power Moves, which made me feel excited. I am...

Coming off of a week of doing some press in Los Angeles, and this was my first time kind of like really being able to hear from some people who have read the book and to talk about the book myself. What's interesting is that when you write a book, you have a revelation or a story that is so large that it takes 60,000 words to fully put it into language. And then you do the interview and you've got like...

You got to say in about 30 words, 40 words. And so trying to make this revelation bite size was an interesting exercise for me as I get ready to talk more and more about the book. I am feeling happy and nervous as it relates to the book.

It's kind of like a presentation that you prepare for, that you're sure of, you're studying, and then it's time to release it. And it's like, now I'm about to release it into the world and we're going to see what happens. So I'm happy and I'm nervous. Outside of the book, I am...

Probably deeply just reflective right now. Lots going on in my world. And as a matter of fact, when I finish this podcast, I am shutting it down and going to have some worship time. But I wanted to plug in with you first. So...

I say all of that to say that I hope this finds you well. It is April. It is officially April when you're listening to this podcast. And April for Woman Evolve is when we begin talking about surrendering to God's narrative. Surrendering to God's narrative is not easy business. At the end of the day, there's our narrative. Well, actually, I wouldn't even say there's our narrative.

navigate life is to recognize that there are many different storytellers attempting to take center stage of our world, our shame, our fear, our parents' expectations, our grandparents' expectations, statistics, all of these different roadmaps laid out before us attempting to be what is our guiding light.

And yet to engage on the journey of saying, I am seeking God's narrative is something that is not always easy. One, because most of those other narratives get to us before God's narrative, right? Your parents have an idea of what your life is going to be. Your friends have an idea of who you are, your siblings. We have all of these different narratives and it is not until we get to a place where we're like, you know what?

I have been living up to everyone else's narrative, everyone else's idea, shame's idea, fear's idea. And I finally want to know God's narrative for my life. All of this changed for me when I began pursuing God's narrative, when I recognized that shame was writing my story. I...

one day that every decision that I had made had been rooted in me no longer wanting to feel shame or me trying to recover from shame. And I wanted the pen back. I wanted to take the pen back from my life. And so I started seeking God because I wanted the pen back, but I didn't know what to write. And so I took the pen back by one, just, oh man, I'm just thinking, there's a scripture about writing God's tablets on our hearts.

Let me pull up the scripture while I'm talking. But I want to pull it up. Can you hear me clicking?

Todd Delaney has an amazing song, but it says,

So, uh,

When I started seeking God's narrative for my life, I had to lean into what was already ahead of me. And a lot of that was in scripture, this idea of you're fearfully and wonderfully made, that God is a forgiving God, that grace and mercy is no respecter of person and it can meet you right where you are, that nothing can separate you from the love of God. Those are the stories that I wanted to believe, but shame had convinced me that it didn't exist. And so faith...

was asking myself if I trust that this narrative applies to me too, what choices would I make? Who would I become? What would I believe? And that absolutely changed my life. And so I don't know who you are or where you are in your journey, but I want to remind you of Proverbs 3.

at three through six, which I just read the new English translation to you. Do not let truth and mercy leave you. Truth and mercy, man, be on the run. And truth is not always easy to digest. Sometimes truth is that you did something wrong and you need to smarten up. Sometimes truth is you did something wrong, you need to smarten up and I want to walk you through it.

And that God's been merciful, that many of us did not get the punishments that we deserved. And to live in that consciousness, don't let it leave you. Bind them around your neck. Live every day connected to that truth. Allow your heart to experience that narrative.

so that your heart can be changed by God's truth and vision for who you are. So that's what you can expect to hear from me about all month long. I am going to be talking about surrendering to God's narrative, how we do it, why we don't do it, why it gets complicated, but the rewards connected to the end of that. So first of all, I have to get...

into this week's question. And this week's question is someone who is trying to surrender to God's narrative and it's giving very much so confusion. So let's check it out. Hey, Pastor Sarah. Hey, girl. Hey, so I need you to mind my business just a little bit.

Now, before I hop into that, I just want to take a moment to say thank you and to give you your flowers because you are an inspiration. You are a shining light and you have made a tangible difference in my life and you don't even know me, but I know you. So I just want to say thank you. I look forward to listening into the Women Evolve podcast every single week.

Now, I probably should introduce myself. Well, my name is Ayanna. I am a rising entrepreneur from New Jersey. Now, the term entrepreneur is quite new for me because I have a background in corporate America. I spent my entire career there. I actually am also a recent graduate from a top executive MBA program. And when I entered my program, I had no idea that I was going to be an entrepreneur, but God had other plans than what I have for my own life.

So God honestly has just been stirring things up in my life since 2022. And what he was doing was really just urging me to step into obedience. And when I finally decided to surrender and I gave God my yes, he started to unfold his plan for my life miraculously. And he's still doing it. But that started around June of last year. He just started revealing where he was leading me. And now in 2024, I feel like I'm in overflow mode.

Now, I have ideas, thoughts, plans. Things are just pouring out of me faster than I can manage them. Now, I am meticulously organizing everything. I have business plans. I have spreadsheets, diagrams, marketing plans, pitch decks, PowerPoints. If you think about it, I got it. My computer is about to shut down. My folders are bursting out the seams. It is exhilarating. It is amazing. But at the same time, it is so overwhelming.

and I need a little bit of help.

Now, I know that I'm being led by the Holy Spirit in ways that I've never experienced before. And I don't want to lose this feeling because I asked for it. Now, I have been diligent with seeking God's guidance. I've been immersing myself in his word, listening to podcasts. I've been reading books. I'm on my fifth book for the year, which actually is Woman Evolved. I have been praying and fasting. And despite my efforts to really stay obedient, I seem to still be struggling amidst this creative surge.

So my questions for you, have you ever experienced a similar overflow of ideas? If so, how did you manage to organize them and maintain focus? My final question is, did you ever find connections between your different ideas?

Now, that last question, that might just be me because sometimes I like to play connect the dots with God. And I know I'm not supposed to, but I am currently grappling with mapping out my plans. And really, I want to avoid the temptation to second guess God's intentions and think that I know what he's thinking. I really, truly want to remain obedient and receptive, but I do find it challenging just amidst the sea of ideas that I have.

Honestly, it feels like there's like a million tabs open in my brain and any guidance or techniques that you can offer would just be greatly appreciated. Now, I thank you so much in advance for your time and your wisdom. I wish you a fantastic day and week filled with tremendous blessings. And P.S., I just want to say that my sister and I, we will be attending Women Evolve this year and we are so excited. I'm ready to be on fire in that room.

And we do have general admission tickets. So if for any reason you decide to drop more VIP tickets, please let us know because we would love to upgrade. Thank you again, Pastor Sarah. I hope you can take my question. Have an amazing day.

Hey, Queen. Thank you so much for sending me this question and taking a minute to just uplift me and pour my cup. It means more to me than you realize. So often people are like, I know you hear this all the time or you must hear this all the time. But I just want you all to know that it really fills my cup when you guys take a minute to show me.

how God is using my surrender for your benefit. So thank you. To answer your question, yes, ma'am. I have definitely been in a situation where God overwhelmed me with so much vision, so much creativity that I literally did not know where to start.

So I have to say that this probably happened to me in 2017. It was wild. So I started telling my story in 2013. And by my story, I'm talking about my teen pregnancy, going through a divorce and then surrendering to God's narrative for my life. And I thought I would just tell my story

people would tell me after that I did some speaking and by speaking, I mean like I preach sermons outside of my story, but I was by no means like anybody's preacher girl. And so, uh, people would tell me like, Hey, you all need to, um,

you need to have a conference. You should host an event for women. And I was just kind of like, I don't want to do that just because people like my story. Like it feels like there should be more than my story in order for me to start anything. And then I got this revelation about Eve and I was like, oh my gosh, this is the first woman and her story is my story. And then so many people connected to my story. What if we all have the same story? And what if God's grace is sufficient to me? And I was like, woman evolve. And so literally I launched the podcast, the conference, the story,

store all at the same time. Maybe those three things don't sound like a lot. Maybe they do. But I it was wild. I built the woman evolve website myself. I went and found a registration system that would allow me to run the registration myself. I started the social media channel myself. And that was literally just for the conference. And then I got like a podcast starter kit. And I started the

podcast. A lot of people think I started the podcast in my closet. That's not true. I started the podcast in an office space in my house in Denver. But then when we moved from Denver to LA, I didn't have an office. So I did it in my closet from there. But I mean, bought the microphone, used the Logic

I'm using Logic right now, even as I recorded this, like, and I sent it to my brother. My brother mixed it. I got the platform to, like, it, I started it all myself, the store. I got my wholesale license. I started buying wholesale stuff online. I got Shopify. I built the shop, like, all of this at the same time. So, mama, I know exactly what it feels like to be in a situation where you are starting to,

Or I feel like you have a lot of creativity. What I know now that I didn't know then is that I should have really tried to master one thing before adding another thing. Even in a new initiative now, one of the things that I'm understanding is like the thing that is the most successful for any of us is the thing that we are willing to commit a lot of time, resources, and just...

I mean, time to like you have to be willing to put in the time for anything to pop off. It is very difficult to launch several businesses and initiatives all at the same time without one of them suffering. And so conference did very well. The store did OK. But I realized that like I like clothes, but I don't necessarily like the business part of

of the clothing side of things. And so this store doesn't really exist, but we still do merch connected with our events. So I think I really learned that at the end of the day, like I really liked merch. I really enjoy the podcast. I like listening to podcasts and I like creating the podcast.

I was doing it on Facebook. You did not ask for my history. I was doing it on Facebook Live, but I had to transition. But I still, I enjoyed the touch point of it. And so I've had to find a way to modify it to be more realistic with the way that my life has changed. So these are all things that I learned by launching everything at the same time. What I would say to you is to write a vision for each and every last one of the things that

That God has given you. I am torn between telling you to start off with the easiest thing or starting off with the hardest thing. And so I'm going to leave this up to you. But I will say that if you start with the easiest thing that you get your confidence going in the direction of whatever God has for you.

you begin to understand the nuances, the complications, and it's just low hanging fruit. And so it's easy for you to start feeling more sure footed as you move into the direction of other things. On the contrary, if you start with the hardest thing, which for me was probably conference, conference was the hardest thing. I had never had to manage that much money before I created a separate entity, the tax implications like that was

the biggest undertaking for me. But what was beautiful about that is it was such a large net that it allowed me to see how all of the other ideas could fit within it.

And so if I would have just started with the conference, like I probably would have been more intentional about like using the podcast to market the conference, having guests for the conference, like helping people to be excited about the content towards the conference. But I was doing it all at the same time. So I didn't have really good strategy. And so I will leave it up to you which one you start first.

But yes, there has been so much synergy and all of the things that God has given me. So WOMEN EVOLVE has a book club. We have a subscription on demand channel for content that help women evolve spiritually, practically, physically. Like there's literally everything on there from stretching, budgeting, sermons, girl talk conversations, cookbooks, like everything is on there.

So the subscription on demand, the podcast, the book club, we have our social media channel. We all obviously we're doing conferences and events.

And we've got, I've got, I've done one course. I'm still like learning the course world and how that works and what's the best way to engage with people for the course. We have the Woman Evolve app, which is a space where women can connect. And we've got ambassadors on there now and we're becoming more intentional about how we're putting content on the Woman Evolve app. And so all of these tentacles exist and they could be standalone on their own, but there is a flow. And so even the books that we put for the,

pick for the book club very much so aligned with the themes that we have for our devotional. Our weekly devotional goes out on woman evolve.com slash connect if you want to sign up for that. And so there's synergy for everything. So I will let you decide how to do it. But most important is that you get started. It doesn't matter what you start with, just get started so that you can start getting the bumps, the bruises, the lessons and the confidence connected in the direction of what God has for you.

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So many of you know that Dr. Anita Phillips and I are...

A bit of a power duo. I'm going to own it. We're a bit of a power duo. I have toured with her. We've gone from city to city combining our gifts and our talents with the hopes that women will have encounters with God that allows them to confront their trauma, experience his grace, and be released into their destiny with courage and the fullness of their potential within reach.

It's one of the things that I absolutely love the most. And I have to tell you, I experienced the gift of Dr. Anita Phillips before I experienced the friendship of Dr. Anita Phillips. We were on tour and we knew something special was happening in those rooms that felt very much so like, God, it really brought us together to serve this generation of women, but we weren't super close. And then there was one night at the end of tour, she texts me to check on me and, you

It cost me a lot to show up in strength, to be spiritually strong when sometimes I'm navigating my own fears and insecurities. And I was having a particularly hard evening and I think that she sensed it and she texted me to check on me and I just kind of told her, I just feel like a girl, like I just feel like a girl out here.

and believing that God's going to show up, but just feeling so insecure and inadequate in my own strength. And that moment of vulnerability was the beginning of what has become such a beautiful friendship. And we have had to walk one another through many moments of God's narrative becoming more clear and our relationship

or fears of that narrative having to be wrestled with in the context of friendship. I was able to sit down and have a conversation with her on her podcast last week.

And I hope you all check it out. I think it's out now. Her podcast is In The Light, and it is one that is sure to just help you continue to push back darkness in your world. But during our conversation, she took the time to be vulnerable, not just in the context of our friendship, but also with our listeners.

She shared that she's recently gone through a transition that she didn't see coming. And she shares with us how she is learning to navigate that transition. And while she goes more in depth on her podcast, there was a moment in our conversation that I wanted to share with you. I asked her a question about what God is teaching her as it relates to power. And I want you to hear her answers. I believe it's really going to bless you.

What area of your life right now is God teaching you the most about power? That is so good. I think the area he's teaching me most about power has to do with what I don't know about the future. What I don't know about the future. I felt like I made a bunch of power moves, right? So when I got to the place where I accepted the reality,

my marriage is ending. You stand in faith on a thing. You're not sure which way God's doing. You want to be open to God and realizing it was ending. And it was very hard for me. And it was hard for him. It was hard for both of us. Nobody wants that. I started moving. I'm like, okay, God, I trust you. Opening doors. I moved to a new state. I'm living dreams in so many ways. But

There's a future that feels more unsure than it did before. And so I am learning to stand in power in ambiguity. I don't know if that's the right answer, if that's the good answer, if that's the answer to the question. But power in the face of ambiguity, you know, sometimes being okay with not knowing. And it's becoming a space where I'm learning to cultivate excitement.

Instead of just saying like, okay, I'm looking in this area and I don't know how this is going to work out. I don't know what will be going on in this area a year from now to two years from now. Instead of being like, okay, God, I'm going to trust you until I know. I'm just like, I have the power to affect how I see this. And I am choosing to be excited about.

Instead of quietly waiting, quietly anticipating, which is right on the border of anxiety. And so I'm depending on the day, depending on the day. And so I have the power to be excited about what I don't know is coming.

And that has been, yeah, that's the area that I think I'm working in the most is recognizing that instead of enduring like that uncomfortable feeling of ambiguity, I can actually cultivate excitement in that space because God has, his track record is impeccable.

I mean, God has never dropped the ball. He has never failed at all. So if I'm really going to be this earthen vessel and the excellency of the power is him and not me, and I'm tapping into the power, he's been in the path. He has blown me away every single time. And so I'm leaning into that space. I have the power to transform anxiety into excitement.

Lord, I see what you're doing for others because at this point. But it's true. I swear I'm not giving y'all some Christian foolishness. That is where I'm at. When I feel that shaky thing inside my body, that anxiety thing that's like, I've been satisfied in the past with being like, God, I'm trusting you in this space. I'm trusting you in this space, even though I feel like this. But I have enough experience with God. I have enough testimonies. Don't stop with the gratitude list.

Just be in a list. You know, we try to get to that things I'm grateful for, but things I'm grateful for, like when I look back, I'm sorry. When I look back, I think there's a song. I didn't think that I would. Yeah, that's it. He's an on time God. If I know he is always on time, I can cry. I can grieve. I can release those painful emotions. But then my very next move is,

is I am cultivating excitement. He has never, ever failed me. And this is my opportunity as a mature Christian. I'm not a baby in this thing to stand up and say, I'm choosing excitement because God's idea is always better than mine. And that gives me power. I have the power to affect my perspective on the future that I don't know yet. And I choose to be excited.

I'm going to quite literally remind you that you are excited about a future. I'm going to remind you too. I'm going to remind you to be excited. You're going to have to because I'm not excited at all. You had me at standing power of ambiguity. I'm like, yes, I can do that. You said with excitement. I said she lost me. Excuse me. That's the flow. I think there's a spot in your book where you say that the breakthrough comes after the breakdown. Yeah.

The ambiguity in my relationship with that, that'd be feeling like breakdown. But the breakthrough is I can stay here until I get a butterfly about what God might do. I mean, man. Okay, let me tell you. That makes me sick to my stomach. Let me tell you. I think that if I were doing...

And almost any other area of my life, I can accept that. But when it comes to specifically being out of control as it relates to leadership in Dallas and increase of scrutiny.

And more consistent speaking. Someone commented on my page, like, when are you coming to our city? Because I used to just travel and speak, which is very much so. I say yes when I want to. I say no when I want to. But there is more of an expectation when you're a part of a leadership team that you're going to speak more frequently, which all I hear is more pressure, more nerves, more anxiety, anxiety.

And I can stand in the ambiguity of the unknown. Like, do I even have the stamina for this? Spiritually, do I have the stamina? Physically, do I have the stamina for this? And do I want to have the stamina for it? Do I want to? Do I want to? The want to is major. The want to is major. Yeah. And then...

But I can get to a point where I can stand in the power of the ambiguity. I'll take this as it comes. Each give me this day of my daily bread. I can do that. I can do that with my whole chest. But I don't know if I can do it with excitement. I'm going to start. I'm picking on you about it. I'm going to pick on you about it because my Bible promises me a hope that will not make me ashamed. He promised me.

And either he's all who he says he is or he ain't none of it. And we've already put so much on the line, child. We have already gambled so much on him being who he said he is. We might as well go all in, you know. I guess. OK, so let me take you. And this is what we're going to do. This is what we're going to do with this episode at this point. If this episode is too long for In The Light, I'm going to take whatever is left. I'm going to move it over to the Woman Evolved podcast. And that's just going to be how we do that. That's how we're going to do it.

My problem is like, I don't feel like I know what to hope for in this scenario because I don't want to be the person that's hoping for the church to grow and for people to come. That feels... Like, I hope that... Like, I...

Not to say that I hope people don't come to church, but it just feels like I don't want to fall into this pressure of trying to be popular. I just want to be effective no matter what the numbers are. And so I think my hope has to be in...

staying open to being a channel and a vessel and being excited, I guess, about who people have the ability to become as a result of that. I guess that's my hard thing is like, I don't, I think especially with, you know, mega church mentalities and the,

I think the way that they have shown up in the world and the way that they have been perceived, to me, and then the succession of being T.D. Jakes' daughter, it's just like, I don't want to be hoping that I can feel his shoes or I can feel this room. So I don't know how to hope in my assignment there. So many thoughts are running through my mind right now. One is that one of the ways that hope starts to get

away from us is we equate hope with being able to imagine an outcome. Like,

Like you said, I don't want to think about it as the church growing because that would be like a box. So it goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning about what it meant to make power moves. You were checking the boxes as a wife. Dinner's on the table at six o'clock. I'm saying yes whenever the request is there. Like we have a checklist of what success would look like, what it would look like to say that this went well. And once we can imagine that, then we have hope for that. And I've said this before. I don't want you to have hope for a thing. I want you to have hope in God.

Because when we have hope in God, we don't get anchored to what it will look like when it happens as an indicator that it happened. Because we do want to know, how will I know when I'm there? Baby, you'll know when you're there, when you get there, and when you get there, you'll know. We have to allow it to not look like what we thought, but also still have hope that God's idea is really good. It's sticky. I know it's sticky. I know it's sticky. And also, leaning into the people that God puts in your life

And trust. I think that God gives us friendships like this sometimes because we need to trust something we can see. Yeah. We do trust God, but we can't see God. Right, right. You know what I mean? You need that person that knows you and loves you and who you trust not to blow smoke. That's standing there saying, you are called to this. You are crafted for this.

And you will walk it out well. And I'm not saying that generally. I'm talking to you, Sarah. I thought like that was happening. You know that you are this and that we are standing in this moment that has never been seen before. A moment when the daughters of God...

are doing a thing. The daughters of God are speaking, rising up, leading, prophesying. The daughters of God are doing something that hasn't been seen before. And so we have no way to know what it will look like. But I am constantly renewed in my hope because I'm connected to you and you're connected to me. And God is using us as daughters.

to show other daughters that he's doing something new. We don't know what it looks like, but it's going to look like leadership that we haven't seen before. It's going to look like power that we haven't seen before. And we don't know what it's going to be, but we're not alone in waiting. We wait together. You know, the gag of it all is... Is it the gag, like, ha-ha, or like, ooh, the gag? Both. Los dos. Both. Los dos.

The gag of it all is I am completely comfortable with everything you just said in spaces where I am with other women. But I do think the real test of the leadership and the advancement of the kingdom is when it is in spaces that are

co-edge. And in these spaces where we can have collaboration, I think we get closer to what God intended in Genesis 1, man and woman made in His image, man and woman having dominion. And so I think it's one thing for it to be tested separately, but I think part of even preparing the way is what happens when we collaborate in our gifts, our talents, our anointing and create spaces where we're having honor and value in that collaboration. I

I personally just don't, and this is such trash because I just preached on the front lines at Hey You and March, but I personally would like someone else to get somebody else to do it. But I'm not the only one on the front lines. We're in it together. We are. And there are men and women on the front lines. Yeah. And forward we march. But I think this is a part of that, in that men having dominion has always been the standard. Yeah.

And so as women do it together, it's raising our confidence in it. But as men see what God is doing, it is raising their comfort level. Should they allow God to work in them to bring it to the place where we are together?

Women haven't had the experiences, the examples, the spaces. And so as we're walking in that, I feel like God is doing something in women and mending us and men are seeing what God is doing. He's given us undeniable revelation, all of the things. So I think that what feels like women's empowerment, it isn't separate. It is necessary to stepping into that place of we have dominion.

We have dominion. And as women, we are allowed to stand in that with them. So yeah, I think he's doing something special and repairing and strengthening us to stand in that. And I like being your partner in it. And I know you're going to fuss all the way. You know what I'm saying? I know you're going to fuss all the way. I know you're going to fuss all the way. And I love that part of that is just rooted in the humility that you have.

Because not many people have the kind of humility that would sustain them to remain humble with the platform and the opportunities and the praise that you receive. But thank you for allowing me to have your back. Thank you for allowing me to cheer you on. Thanks for receiving it when I tell you that I know what you're called to do, that I see you. And thank you for that because I'm honored by it.

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Then my waistline in 2013, my waistline was itty bitty committee. Do you understand what I'm saying? Tiny poquito. But I am learning that surrendering to God's narrative also includes so many blessings.

And the blessing of my friendship with Dr. Anita Phillips and Courtney and Jason and Cindy at this stage and age in my life and so many others. Y'all, please don't breathe. Don't no one text me and be like, you forgot about Dre. But what I am saying is that surrendering to God's narrative is not always backbreaking, heartbreaking work.

Surrendering to God's narrative also allows for there to be so many opportunities for love and joy and gratitude. I am not of the belief that saying yes to God means a life full of nothing but heartbreak and pain. There are good moments too.

So when you experience them, make sure that you breathe them in deeply. Hang on to them. Certainly suffering is on the way, but God will always, always have the final say. So, um...

Yeah, this has been another episode of the Woman Evolved podcast. Do you guys enjoy this as much as I do? One thing I do want to say is somebody send me a rescue. Oh, okay. Wait, are y'all gone? Are you still here? Hello, is the mic on? Send me your mind, your business questions to podcast at woman evolved.com. Your mind, your business questions are when you want my advice or my perspective on something.

but also you can send me a rescue. If you're not hip to what Womany Evolve is and what we're even talking about, welcome to the club. We don't know what we're talking about either, but you can send me your rescue. Rescue is when you see somebody out in the world and you want to believe they know better, but they are certainly not doing better. And it's

our way of saying, you know what? Can we show them grace? Can we see them the way that God sees them and rescue them in our perspective of who they are, rescue them from judgment, rescue them from ridicule and criticism? And it could be your story. It could be another person's story. It could be your siblings. It could be something literally in the headlines. I think when we first started this, we had a lady who returned a Christmas tree to Costco after having it for like six months.

perhaps, or wise, wisdom. We don't know. But I did get someone who's trying to do a rescue. So this came on my DMs and it says, hi, are you still doing the series? Who should we rescue? I've always loved how you rescued Eve. If so...

I have an interesting take on rescuing Judas. If it has not been covered yet, Matthew 27, one through five, Judas never intended to betray Jesus to his death. He intended to betray him, but did not intend for him to die. Judas was remorseful when he saw how far they took it. He didn't know at the time that his evil intentions would be used for the ultimate plan of salvation. Sometimes we need to rescue our betrayers because if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have the but God testimonies that we have today.

Libby, my girl, you've brought up an interesting point. There is a book, you know, the 66 books of the Bible have been canonized, but there is a book of Judas that was not included in the canon, I guess for whatever reason.

Whatever the stipulations were in getting the 66 finalized, this one did not pass the test, but in it, it basically says that he was being used by God to fulfill the mission of ultimately getting Jesus to the cross. I haven't read it, but I read that that exists somewhere. So don't, if I got the facts wrong, just make me a printer. Yeah.

Anyways, it's an interesting take. You know, at the end of the day, the whole point of Rescue Eve is not to be like, nah, we not giving him a pass. Because if we think about the moments in our lives, it's so easy to talk about the people who betrayed us. But can we talk about the moments that we've betrayed God? We've betrayed ourselves. We have betrayed other people. And we didn't realize just how...

ruthless the betrayal was until we got caught or until we had to deal with the ramifications of our actions and consequences. And for that reason alone, we ought to be able to rescue him. My Lord and Savior, thank God for Jesus.

Are we going to say thank God for Judas? I don't know. I don't know. Didn't feel right coming out my lips, but it's something to wait. Y'all pray about it. Let me know what you think. I love you all tremendously, immensely. This podcast makes me feel like we are actually spending time with one another. I hope that I'm going to see you.

I am going on tour. I am going to be in Sugar Land, Texas, which is right outside of Houston. I'm going to be in Chicago. I'm going to be in Brooklyn. I'm going to be in Atlanta, the DMV in Los Angeles. You can visit sarahjakesroberts.com to get all of the information. This is for the Power Moves Tour. It's going to be an interactive experience where we come together and we confront what has tried to overpower God's power from working in our lives. And I believe you're going to leave out of that place

set free on fire and ready to become a force. I am surrendering, constantly praying and seeking God so that I am positioned to guide you in whatever way that God sees fit. So I hope to see you there. Holy Spirit, thank you for being our writing coach.

in the midst of us seeking God's narrative. Thank you for challenging us when we want to make a choice that would be against God's narrative, for affirming us and giving us peace when we move in the direction of God's narrative. I pray right now that every person listening will first receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior, coming off the heels of Easter and even talking about Jesus and Judas, God.

One thing is very clear is that without Jesus, we would not have a model. Without Jesus, we would not have an example. Without Jesus, our sin would keep us from experiencing reconciliation with you. And so, God, I thank you for Jesus, who also allowed us access to the Holy Spirit that can dwell within us.

I pray, God, that you would fill each and every listener with the Holy Spirit in a way that completely overwhelms them, that fills them with love and peace and gratitude, and that they would come to know you.

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