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Agree to Disagree | "The Most Disappointed Man" (S2E7) with special guest Debra Jo Rupp

2024/12/17
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主持人: 本集讨论了《我们这一天》第二季第七集“最失望的人”,涵盖了兰德尔的领养案、凯文与索菲的冲突以及杰克和丽贝卡完成兰德尔领养等情节,并对剧中涉及的种族、家庭、毒瘾和婚姻等主题进行了深入探讨。 Mandy Moore: 分享了拍摄过程中与儿童演员合作的挑战,以及对剧中一些场景的情感解读。 Chris Sullivan: 讨论了剧中关于种族和养育的议题,以及演员在表演中如何处理这些敏感话题。 Sterling K. Brown: 分享了他对剧中角色的理解,以及他对种族、家庭和社会偏见的看法。 Debra Jo Rupp: 作为剧中社工的扮演者,分享了她对角色的理解,以及她对社会工作者这个职业的看法。 Mandy Moore: 我分享了拍摄过程中与儿童演员合作的挑战,以及对剧中一些场景的情感解读。剧中巧妙地处理了不同年龄段儿童演员的切换,这给拍摄带来了挑战。儿童演员的需求也给拍摄带来了许多意想不到的困难。与德罗伊·林多合作是一次难忘的经历,他强大的气场令人印象深刻。 Chris Sullivan: 我讨论了剧中关于种族和养育的议题,以及演员在表演中如何处理这些敏感话题。法官对杰克和丽贝卡的质疑引发了关于种族和养育的深刻思考,这在有色人种家庭中比白人家庭更早出现。德罗伊·林多在表演中对种族歧视用词的处理方式值得注意。少数族裔对主流社会的认知往往比主流社会对少数族裔的认知更为深刻。 Sterling K. Brown: 我分享了我对剧中角色的理解,以及我对种族、家庭和社会偏见的看法。作为演员,我需要在理解法官立场的同事坚守对孩子的爱。这个场景中,双方都有各自的道理,这体现了编剧的巧妙之处。丽贝卡坚定地认为兰德尔是他们的孩子,并决心克服一切障碍完成领养。丽贝卡写给法官的信最终促使法官回避此案。剧中对法官回避的处理方式非常巧妙,避免了戏剧化的冲突。德罗伊·林多的精彩表演给观众留下了深刻的印象,并提升了该剧的影响力。 Debra Jo Rupp: 作为剧中社工的扮演者,我分享了我对角色的理解,以及我对于社会工作者这个职业的看法。在真实的监狱场景拍摄中,演员会感受到压抑的气氛。社工的工作非常辛苦,需要承受巨大的压力。

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WHY did the courtroom scene with Randall's adoption case judge spark discourse among "This Is Us" fans?

The judge, Delroy Lindo, questioned Randall's suitability as a black child being raised by white parents, raising concerns about transracial adoption and cultural understanding, a sensitive topic that resonated with viewers.

What challenges did Mandy Moore and Milo Ventimiglia face while filming with toddlers in this episode?

The toddlers' unpredictable schedules and needs, like naps and juice boxes, made the shoot challenging, especially since the scenes involved handling the children and required precise timing.

What unique challenge did Sterling K. Brown face as a Black actor on the show regarding lighting?

He often found the lighting too intense for his skin tone compared to his co-stars, highlighting the complexities of lighting people of color on screen.

How did Jack and Rebecca react to the judge's unexpected request to speak with their social worker?

They were surprised and concerned as they had expected the adoption to be finalized without any issues, especially since their social worker had assured them everything was in order.

What prompted the judge to recuse himself from Randall's adoption case?

Rebecca's heartfelt letter, accompanied by a family picture, emphasized their unwavering love and commitment to Randall, leading the judge to acknowledge the validity of their perspective and step aside.

What was the significance of William's encounter with the judge in the past?

The judge, recognizing William's remorse and potential for change, offered him a second chance by recommending help instead of incarceration, impacting William's future and ultimately Randall's.

What led to Kevin's confession to Sophie that their future together felt like a nightmare?

His worsening addiction and internal struggles, coupled with the pressure of trying to live up to an idealized image of his father and Toby, culminated in a painful realization that he couldn't maintain the relationship.

WHY did Kate initially resist the idea of a big wedding?

She used the stress of planning and her father's absence as excuses to avoid confronting her true desire for a traditional wedding, masking her grief and longing for a proper celebration.

What role did Toby play in Kate's eventual decision to have a traditional wedding?

He recognized her underlying desire for a wedding and proposed, offering a grand gesture that acknowledged her unexpressed feelings and solidified their commitment.

How did Debra Jo Rupp prepare for her role as a social worker on "This Is Us"?

She consulted with a friend from high school who was a social worker, gaining insights into the emotional demands and professional detachment required in the field.

What did fans express in their letters about the impact of "This Is Us"?

They shared how the show helped them love themselves, process trauma, find meaning and direction in life, normalize life's messiness, and feel less alone, demonstrating the show's profound emotional impact.

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This chapter discusses the emotional courtroom scene of Randall's adoption, highlighting the challenges of filming with young children and the powerful performance of Delroy Lindo as the judge. The discussion includes the importance of family photos and lighting considerations for actors of color, and the judge's eventual recusal.
  • Delroy Lindo's impactful performance as the judge.
  • Challenges of filming with young children.
  • Importance of accurate representation in lighting and family photos for actors of color.
  • Judge's recusal due to personal contemplation.

Shownotes Transcript

This week on That Was Us, we break down that intense courtroom scene with Randall's adoption case judge (Delroy Lindo) and how his scenes in this episode sparked major discourse among This Is Us fans. We also discuss Kevin's "nightmare" confession to Sophie, how Mandy, Chris, and Sterling are surprised by the show's twists and turns, and what it is like to gain an audience's trust. Were you surprised by William's legal battles briefly intersecting with Jack and Rebecca's court case? Plus, special guest Debra Jo Rupp (the social worker!) joins us to share her memories of working on the show! 

That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions.

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