Ep 1087 | Missy Serenades Phil with a Gospel Hymn & How Mamas Are Fighting the War for America’s Kids
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I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashamed. One of my favorite guests on the Unashamed podcast because it makes Jay squirm.

Is Missy, the lovely Missy. I really do love you, babe. I'm sorry. It's just something about having the Missy Truth Detector in the Unashamed podcast that just makes me smile. She says I have a tendency to embellish some of the stories. I wonder where you got that. You're like mom when dad says she's not a hoarder, but she has hoarding tendencies. Yeah, yeah.

And I tell her I'm doing the best I can. Okay, okay. Using my words against me now. Yeah, that's Missy's line for every time I say something. Critical? Critical. She's like, I'm doing my best. Well, there's no way to argue that.

It's like, okay. Don't you feel like, how long have y'all been married now? 30? It will be 35 years. 35 years. Don't you feel like that's like your life mantra now? After 35 years, I'm doing my best. Well, and when you factor in the kids and the kids we picked up.

the way it becomes a good mantra yeah i mean because there's really no they say there's not a manual but this is a pretty good start i have my hand on the bible for you listening so i miss you i've been hearing your name quite frequently lately all in positive about some of your cooking uh mostly from mom and dad because when we go and see them a lot of times we've been seeing them at lunchtime and y'all have been there like the night before and brought dinner so it's kind of good because we're

bringing in some food for them that they love. But they've been really bragging on your cooking. Oh, she's become their favorite, I would argue. I would have never in my entire marriage have thought that I would be in this position of my life right now where when they see me, they get up and come to sit at a table because they know that they're getting some good food. And they're excited about it. And it's an honor for me to do that. And so I just feel...

I feel very honored. It is a little bit of a sacrifice, but it's what I love to do for them because they enjoy it so much. And I think it also helps Jace to actually make it a priority to go and see them. And so...

We've been doing it like three nights a week unless I'm in Nashville. And so we get to eat good too. And we get to eat with them and spend time with them. And, you know, some days are good and some days are not as good. Yeah. But we do our best. But we do our best. And you know what? They're doing their best too. Well, and there's something about it. We've talked about this a million times on the podcast in our family, but also in our biblical studies.

something disarming about a meal because it joins you together. And obviously these are situations where we're never sure quite what you're walking into on any particular day in terms of where the mental part

So everybody can share a meal and everybody's excited to get to eat. And so it does do something to sort of disarm. Well, I've also thought about, which I know we're not living under the Ten Commandments, but one of the Ten Commandments is to honor your father and mother. And that's where we are in our life right now because they have done so much for so many people for years, not just our family, but so many other people that this is a way to honor them.

But also, and I just want, now that you said that, I want to brag about a group of ladies because there is a group of 13 ladies that they've included me on their tech stream that they have their own schedule set up to where they go visit them at a certain time.

every evening and twice on the weekends. And they communicate with each other. They give everyone updates about feeling K mentally, physically, whether or not they did things they were supposed to, what to look out for, for the next person coming in and to see these ladies interact. And one in particular really got to me because, you know, your dad has changed. Yeah. His character has changed. He,

He is very kind and loving and patient with me. I can't say about anyone else, but when I'm there, he has looked me in the eyes more in the last three to four months of his life than in the last 38 years that I've known him. Right.

And, you know, that's just his personality with women in particular. But he really is looking at me and listening to what I say. And he's intimidated me for so long. Now I'm just like...

I think I sang to him the other night. That was moving, by the way. I just wanted to tell him. I was telling him about this weekend, and I'll tell you about that, but our listeners too, because it was amazing. But I had some young ladies in, and I was telling them about the experience that –

I was able to mentor them. We had four different Bible sessions, and we talked about women in the Bible and how Jesus reacted to them. But one night we just talked about who Jesus is. It doesn't matter what he says or does if you don't know who he is. And it's like, you know, growing up, worshiping, we didn't really call it worship growing up. We just call it singing. Yeah.

And every song had the same kind of marching stance, no matter what the words or the meaning was. But if you really look at some of those words and think about how the author and the writer wrote that music and wrote those words, it would change the way you worshipped. Right. You know, the one I sang was how I stand amazed in the presence of Jesus the Nazarene and wonder how...

He could love me, a sinner condemned unclean. How marvelous. And I sang that. Oh, how wonderful. I sang that. You're almost marching. Well, she did. She did like the old version when we were kids, and it was kind of a bit of a crusty atmosphere, and she was like, I stand in the presence. But if we sang it the way it was written, it would just be...

It would just be worshipful and slower, more meaningful, more quiet, not hollering and screaming. So I was kind of doing that for Phil and Kay, and I just started singing. Yeah, you just sang. You know what I thought was weird? We never talked about this. It's because they're with a group of people there, but when she started singing, it just got eerily quiet everywhere. They were all listening. Oh, I'm sure they were, you know, and I thought...

Now, this is the Lord's presence breaking through. You know, it was a little – I was having just to like, don't cry, Jace, don't cry. Because I'm kind of like the strong one in this deal because, you know, our dad needs a strong hand too. Yeah.

We have a different relationship. He's so kind to Missy, but a lot of times he's not with me just because he's, you know. Some days he's not happy. He's more griping about his current condition, but he doesn't realize that's what he is. I get it. I'm like, you're not doing well, Phil. I know why.

And he's like, do something about it. Well, you feel helpless. You're like, well, Phil, we're doing the best we can. I literally say, we're doing the best we can. You just want to bring comfort and some peace and calm.

to them and their situation because even though they don't quite understand what's going on and why it's happening, they don't like it. So you just, you want to bring something to them to make them feel better about the situation and family can do that. You know, so I enjoy it. I really do. I never thought that I would, but I look forward to seeing them every other night. And if we can't go, I'm like, I,

I told Jace I went to Nashville for a week and came back, and we were on our way to see them, and I said, is this weird? But it was when your mom was in the hospital and he was by himself, and I said...

I missed your dad. And Jace looked at me and he said, that's weird. We just kept driving. Things are getting weird. Well, and she's right, his personality. That's why I tell people, despite the fact that he's falling apart physically and mentally, there's a spirit about him, which I know what that spirit is, that has really been moving. And he is. I mean, it's like...

Even last night, was it the night before? Night before last. He wasn't having a good day just mentally. You couldn't make much sense. But a couple times he just stopped and he was like, looked at my mom, and he's like, I love you. Of all the women.

That's the one thing he keeps making sense about. Which is interesting you talked about those personality changes. And I saw it some with Phyllis even before he got into with the Alzheimer's now, but he's done that more and more with mom. And it's so appreciative now that she's with him and she's there. And so he will say those words that I had never heard him say either.

which are powerful. So, I mean, we all get to contribute to that now, which is great. And I commend you both because you both have put a ton of effort into helping them. And, you know, I came back home because Lisa and I are gone a lot this season with traveling. And so I decided I was going to do birthday pies because that's one of the things I can do. I mean, nobody in our family needs anything. And so like it's something you can do that people enjoy that you wouldn't get somewhere else.

But I only could make three at a time because that's all I've ever, I mean, I guess I could make four, but I don't. So there were four birthdays, but I only made three pies. So somebody was going to get weeded out in the process. So it was Missy's birthday, which then by proxy was Jay's, wouldn't get to enjoy. Then Cy, because I miss Cy's weeding he had at the place in town.

So I wanted to make him a pie. Then I wanted to make one for mom and dad. So Willie got left out. Yeah. But the reason why is because he fat shamed me the most. Well, there you go. So you get left out. You don't get a pie. You don't get a pie. Nothing for you. No pie for you. No pie for you. But it was really amazing because sometimes dad doesn't always remember things we're talking about when we're telling stories. But when I came, I said, Dad, I made a pie. Do you remember my pies? He said, what?

Oh, yeah. So it's like, oh, yeah, I hadn't forgotten that. Remember that pie? He was like, mm-hmm. And he was trying to think of what to call the cherries. And it was like, oh, yeah, I want some of that. But he enjoyed it, which was great. Made me feel good to be able to offer something like you're doing. And we talk a lot about legacy on there, and I want to hear about your weekend because discipling people –

is building long-term legacy into families, into training your children, into Godliness. And so you have taken that on in a powerful way. And even one of, I think, one of the people that were at a part of your session left this beautiful note for Lisa and I because she had read some of our stuff and had had some issues that some of our things we've talked about had helped her.

And I was going to let you know that. And she just left it in our mailbox. So when I got up on that Sunday, I was able to read it. It was very touching to me. Well, what I've learned about this season in life and just in generality, this age group of women in their 20s is they are lacking mentorship. And I had it my entire life and took advantage of that because I didn't know any other way. I had multiple women pouring into me every single week of my life.

And I went to them about parenting advice. I went to them about marriage advice. I went to them just about relationship advice. And I got it. I got godly wisdom from these ladies. And I did not realize, and really until Brighton married into our family, she didn't have that growing up. I mean, she has a mom, but other biblical women pouring into her life. And I have become that to her as well. Just someone on the outside looking in and giving her advice when asked.

But Kendall, who runs our business at Logtown, said you should do a mentorship weekend. And I was like, okay.

just for random strangers? And she said, they're going to come. And they did from all over the country. And so this was our second time that we did that. But mentorship is such a huge need right now because information is in such abundance in the world, in media, that you don't know what you can trust. You have no idea. And Brighton said that about parenting. She's like, there are so many parenting manuals, basically, and books out there

Who do I trust? Because the advice is all over the board. And so you have to find those mentors that you can trust. So the mentorship that Kay did also for these women, those 13 women that are now in this group text, what they're doing now is totally sacrificial. This is not their family. They are cooking. They are going and buying. They are organizing things.

Paula Godwin went up there when Kay fell recently and went to the hospital. I was in this mentorship weekend and I got the note and I said, Phil is going to be very, very anxious without her. Can any of y'all go up there?

And I won't read it, but Paula put in our text what happened when she got there and how she was able to calm him down, show him that she loves him, that Miss Kay was going to be okay. She's gotten the word. She was able to give him the information that he needed. And she kissed him on the forehead and said, I love you. And he said, I love you too.

And I mean, I was just bawling. Like, this is not the Phil that I've known for 30 years, but how comforting that was to him and to her and to the rest of us to know. Because when you mentioned those women, I was going to say, those were all women that had been discipled and mentored. And then also a lot of them were led to Christ by mom and dad. So now it's like, who's going to take up that mantle? Right.

And now I have a couple of those weekends under my belt. And boy, this past weekend was off the chart. It actually made old Jay cry. He started crying, baptized and won in the pool. Yeah, I told that story. She's giving you the context. Because it was 13 women. What's up with the 13 women? Are you proving that you're not superstitious? It's actually God is sending those women. I have nothing to do with it. Kendall is making sure that they are in the right place in their life to be able to

hearts open to absorb what we're going to say and how we're going to teach them. But, you know, my friend Tara, who is an avid Unashamed listener, was there. I've known her for 30 years. And she's also one of the ladies that goes and visits your parents on a regular basis. And so she...

helped me this weekend she fed into these ladies as well and it was just a really really wonderful thing we gave them a Louisiana experience with crawfish and all that but what they they thought that was fun but what they appreciated the most was the authenticity which is what our family is about

the transparency. We're going to talk about our flaws and where we've messed up and how you can learn from our mistakes. And then most of all, who our Savior is. And He is the only reason that we are doing what we are doing today is because of His love and because of His sacrifice and because of His love

He is adorning us with everything that we would ever ask or desire. Yeah. And what I loved about, I mentioned the note one of your girls had left for us is thanking us for the role we had played in helping her in her relationship with her husband. But then also she mentioned in there the blind that after she had seen it, she was able to open up

with some things with her husband she needed to do and talk about them out loud. And it was interesting because I had just told the story that day on the podcast of a couple that had told me the exact same thing this past weekend, and then she did it again. And so, again, it shows the idea we're all working together for this common cause of not just leading people to Christ but making their relationship stronger.

Yes. And speaking of that, you brought a friend today. That's right. We're excited. Another group of people who are doing amazing work. Yes, totally. So we're going to take a break. When we come back from this break, we're going to let Missy introduce our guest for today and tell you a little bit about what they're doing. So, Al, you guys have...

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Welcome back to Unashamed. We have a guest here. Missy, tell us who our guest is and how you guys became friends. Absolutely. I'll be honored to. Kimberly Fletcher. She is the president of Moms for America. And I'm going to let her tell what that organization is, but I will remind the audience. She is the one who asked me to do the speech at Mar-a-Lago. She gave me the honor of being awarded the

a mother of influence. And I was, they got to spend some time with us last night and this morning and

I was telling her, not really sure exactly how I got hooked up into all of that because, and I brought this to show her, but in the brochure, the program of that Mar-a-Lago event, you can see, and we'll show this for the YouTube audience, but for the listeners, I'm on the same page as Tulsi Gabbard with her hair blowing in the wind for her headshot, Vivek Wamaswamy in his presidential gear with the flag behind him,

And they sent, helped me to send one in and I found one I liked and I zoomed it in and there's my black crock pot sitting on my kitchen counter in the background. So I don't really know exactly how I got hooked in with, you know, Attorney General Lynn Finch who argued the Dobbs case in front of the Supreme Court. Oh,

Oh, so the one from Mississippi? Yes. She is amazing. She's amazing. I met her at an event. She's awesome. And then Gracie McGillicuddy, who is just an advocate for millions of abused children over the years, and me with my...

in the background. Our lovely... Crop pots are never a bad appendage. They're never a bad backdrop. It is the perfect... It's the epitome of a mother of influence. You showed... Well, it's so crazy. Our lovely producer, Maddie, put up the episode where we told that story because it ended with actually President Trump

coming in while Missy was giving her speech. And for all the believers in the world and in the room, it was like, because...

People were like, the president's here. And I was looking at Missy and I was like, I don't think she's quite finished because she was reading Acts 17. No, I was not done. It was the most nervous I've ever been. But Maddie put that episode. We talked about it. By the way, it was a very momentous episode. It was 1001. 1001. So if you want to go listen to her speech, they actually put that there. But to President Trump's credit, which meant a lot to me because that's the most nervous I've ever been in my life. Okay.

Just seeing her in that situation. She finished her speech and he gracefully listened. He allowed me to finish that speech, which is the man he is. Well, and for you to be, anybody who's been in that situation, when the president walks in, it's like... I've never been in that situation before. I'm sorry. It's not just running the whole day. I love that Kimberly says that. Yeah, you know, when the president walks in, we've all been there, right? It's like a mic.

drop, you know, moment. And everybody just stops. The whole room moves and everything's about him. And you're up on the stage. I have never seen anybody handle anything with such class and grace and courage. And your message was so incredibly important. And I, to this day, say it made it made.

It made the day. It was a message that needed to be given. And you weren't going to stop. And he did. He did. He stopped and he listened. And I was so... He did. Well, she like grafted him in. She's like, and he's going, our president's here and he's going to... He respects the values that our country...

That's right. She like made him a part of what this movement is. And she was talking about Acts 17, which is kind of the us imaging God in what we do. I just, I felt sorry for, I think Sharona. She finally put her hand on my back. Like, okay.

During the presidency And I was like Jesus is the subject So just let me finish With that It wasn't as bad as dad Did they start playing music To get you off? No they didn't do that Yeah that's what Happened to dad At CPAC one year They literally Just like the Oscars It was like

Music's playing. The lights are lowering. Please get Phil off the stage. I've been there. I've had music start while I was talking. They were very professional, amazing, patient, respectful, all of the wonderful things, really. So thank you again for that. It was an honor well-deserved. So tell us about Moms for America. Yeah, okay. So I founded the organization in 2004 in a living room in Dayton, Ohio with 26 employees.

And we have grown to a national network of over 500,000 moms across the country reclaiming our culture. That's really what this is about, reclaiming our culture for truth, for family, for freedom in the Constitution. And we are creating a...

A silent majority movement of these moms because we are. We're out there. There are way more of us than there are of those who are trying to destroy the country and cancel everything that we believe in. And so we are like the tribe for moms or the support group.

where they can come and feel like, okay, I'm not alone. I'm not the crazy one. So it's really about supporting the silent majority of moms who love God, who cherish freedom, treasure family, and understand the powerful influence that we are. And if they don't know...

That's one of the main things that we do is help them understand just how powerful our influence is in our homes, our communities, our nation. And of course, through our vote. That's really important. So Thursday night of the night of this event at Mar-a-Lago, there was a reception for

And I told Kimberly, I said, usually we blow those off. Sorry. I mean, it's just, we usually just don't go to those. And Bonnie was there with me and none of my family had gotten there yet. And I was like, let's just go and hear what they're about, like update on what this movement is. I am so glad we did because the women in that room, I just thought it was Kimberly and her team.

No. It is women all across America in their tiny towns or in their large towns. That sweet little girl from San Francisco, she's changing the world. She is. And she's from Africa. She is. And so she came to this country for freedom and realized she...

she's not finding it because the schools were telling her how to raise her children and it was not in a godly way. So she was just one example, but I told her every single mom and lady who opened their mouth to

I was in awe of, of what they believed that they could do. They're not famous. They're not a celebrity. They may not even have college educations, but they knew what they wanted for their children, and they were joining with Moms for America because they knew they could make that happen. Grassroots, door-to-door, changing, flipping counties in California. When you said how many counties y'all flipped in California for the election...

That was it. I was like, I'm hooked. I'm in. And it was amazing because there were so many people who were like asking us, why are you wasting time and money in California? California's lost. And I was like, you know what? If that's what they said back in the 70s, then it would still be a very conservative state. But those who are trying to destroy the country, they realize if you can go after the big states where the vote matters, you take the culture, you take the vote, then they silence us.

And I'm not going to be silenced anymore. And that's Nancy, our San Francisco mama. We have Moms for America groups. We don't have chapters. And the reason why that is is because, first of all, chapter is a legal term. And you have to have certain rules, bylaws that all of those chapters live by. And I didn't want to do that because nobody knows what that county or that community needs more than the mom who's there.

And so we have autonomous groups. We franchise. They can wear our brand. But the other thing I said was you have to make it about local because if you just go and wear your Moms for America t-shirt, then they're going to look at you like some national organization, button your nose into their community, their business. But if you show up with San Francisco Moms for America or whatever the school district or county is Moms for America. With the color purple. With the color purple. And I'm so glad you brought that up because people said, why purple?

When we were in Texas in 2023, Texas only is in legislative session every other year, which I think everybody should adopt. But they were in session, and there were some really critical bills that they were pushing, and it was protecting girls and women's sports, making sure that our bathrooms were safe. We had a great bill where it was –

putting in God we trust a anybody that any school that received this poster donated said in God we trust with the American flag and the Texas flag, they had to prominently display it in the classroom. And so it was just little things like that, positive things and stopping the negative things.

And so we spent a lot of time in the legislative session and the halls during that time. And afterwards, the governor held a prayer breakfast, and our moms reached out from Texas and said, hey, we want to attend the prayer breakfast. Can you sponsor a table for us to attend? And I said, absolutely. But I said, you're going to wear your shirts.

You can wear a jacket with it. You can wear a skirt or pants, whatever. You're going to wear those purple shirts. And they're like, okay. And so the governor came up to them at the prayer breakfast and he said, ladies, you have the most powerful brand in Texas. Keep wearing it. And I think the significant part of that is why purple? Everybody needs a why purple? So lavender is a shade of purple and it...

It's really when we were doing the Moms March in 2017. You're going to have t-shirts. You're going to have a color. You're going to have a theme. And so I was looking at all the palettes, and this deep lavender came across. And I just immediately looked back and said, that looks like mom. And so I started to look up lavender and purple. Well, lavender is a color that means purity, devotion, love, everything that we are, the best in us. And it is...

Purple is a color of royalty, and we're all daughters of God. And it's red, white, and blue blended together. So it's the color that unites us, and it represents the best in us. And that is what we symbolize when we go out there. We're about lifting the culture, not getting angry and yelling and becoming like everybody else, but being that classy, standing up strong, courageous, but being able to stand up for something positive and being the light where you are.

So, Zach, one of the things we talk about a lot on the podcast is, you know, being unashamed of our faith. And you realize that, you know, with that is going to come naturally some persecution because we're going up against the evil one. And so this comes back to you. Have you found in your walk and your discipling of others that people that are persecuted give you strength? Oh, absolutely. Particularly when you hear about what

the work that's going on with our partners at Voice of the Martyrs. I mean, those guys are on the front lines of the battle. And so we want to support everything they're doing. Yeah, that ministry has been so important to me through the years as a pastor, especially because these are stories from around the world where people are being persecuted for their faith. Our good friend Todd Nettleton,

who is the Voice of the Mars radio host, has written a new book. It's called When Faith is Forbidden, 40 Days on the Front Lines with Persecuted Christians. And it's basically Ty going on his journeys through these restricted nations around the world and just realizing

interviewing people and getting their stories. And they're very inspiring stories. They challenge you. This is set up in a devotional format for you to be able to not only read these stories and be encouraged, but also then to want to help. And that's what Voice of the Martyrs is all about. And the good news is this book, which is tremendous, which is going to challenge and encourage your faith, is free. Request your free copy of When Faith is Forbidden by calling 844-463-4059.

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Made me think that's why God called, wasn't that Lydia? Yeah, Acts 16. Acts 16, I'm like, oh. She was a seller of purple. I'll be doing a sermon on this. Oh, yeah, I'm taking notes, Kimberly. I get sermon ideas from everywhere. So I had a question for you because I don't remember who said it. I wish I did so I could give them credit. But somewhere a few years ago on the podcast, we either had somebody on or read something about

where they said something that has stuck with me. They said, if we lose the women in our culture, we lose the culture. It's Isaiah 3. Yeah. Oh, there you go. I should have known that was a verse. But when they said it, the reason it had such an impact on me is because, you know, being a man, you think like a man and you're in these debates and arguments with people. And then you look at you and you see our culture, right?

And you realize, to me now, just kind of looking at it from a 30,000-foot view, it's

at how most of the cultural things now, especially on the left, are being led by women. They are. Women are destroying the country. It is. And, you know, again, as a man, you say, all right, you're sexist, you're this, you're that. But just look at it. Just look at who's protesting, who's out there. And so when organizations like yours, from a person who doesn't know that much about it, but when I see the engagement,

It just reminds me how important it is to be in this battle because, I mean, I thought these issues that you mentioned, whether it's men and women, sports, trans, all the different things, they're being led by women. Mm-hmm.

No doubt about it. And they're dedicated and committed. It's the, quote, empathetic side that we're supposed to align with. Don't you think it's ironic that all these women's organizations, their main objective now is to erase women? To destroy women. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, especially with the athletics and all that. I mean, you're demeaning these women who have practiced your friend, what's

What's her name? Riley. Yeah, Riley Gaines. I mean, she's like, that's her whole point. But you told a story last night, and there was a lot of legal things going on, but you just told about all these moms going to the court. And y'all weren't like picketing and being violent, but just the power of a bunch of moms.

In the courtroom. Please tell about Texas and the school books. Okay. So this was absolutely incredible. Most people don't know that there's a textbook war. That's actually what they call it. Most people. Yes. Like 99% of people. Have no idea. And you have no idea that we saved you. So please tell us. So we were at CPAC and it was 2022. And

And we found out that there was a 2023. Sorry, that makes a difference. We found out that the state school board was trying to pass this curriculum that would have been adopted in all the school books. So the reason why they call it all of the school books, all of the school books across the country. So the reason why they call it textbook wars is because it's all between California and Texas. They have the majority of students in the country.

And so they figure, well, it's representative of the whole country. So whatever their state standards are, that's what we'll put in the school books. Well, Texas has been holding California back all these years, but they've been slowly integrating these crazy things into the textbooks. Such as? They have. Such as like DEI, all of these? Yes, DEI and the transgenderism. Really what they've done is they started with simply –

changing, taking out the history and then changing it to make America bad. So America's bad. And literally the school books are teaching you to hate your country, hate your neighbor, hate yourself and completely disconnect from your, from your parents and your family. Everything that tethers you, they're, they're trying to rip away from you.

And there is a curriculum that actually the Chinese Communist Party is pushing out. And they've been very successful at putting it in universities and they're pushing it in high schools, they're pushing it in sports. But they were going to adopt this whole curriculum into the standards for Texas. And it was called TEKS, the Texas Education Essential Knowledge Standards.

And they were going to be pushing all of this. They were going to be promoting homosexuality. And I just want to make it clear. I don't care if you want to marry a tree or sleep with a bird. I really don't care. You do you, I do me. But let's leave the kids alone. I think we can all agree on that.

And it shouldn't be pushed through the school system where you're confusing these kids. And now to the point where they're telling them they aren't who they are. Taking away your identity that God has given you, that is probably the most heinous thing that you could do. And it's confusing these kids. All of this was being shoved into the curriculum.

So we found out about it and we pulled together a network of organizations and we sat around a table at the first meeting and we're like, okay, what can you do? What can you do? And Moms for America was in charge of rallying the moms to be there and show up. And we were in charge of the messaging and you have to, it has to be clear, has to have some cute little pictures or icons and one page.

And so we put that together and we gave it to all the moms so they could then share it, make phone calls and call the different members of the legislature, call the school board members. So they were trying to pass this in the midnight hour because they knew that we were going to win the state school board.

There was a race. The election was coming. We were going to win in November. So they were trying to pass it before the November election. And so they had a scheduled a September or late September, early October date. And we had like five and a half weeks to prepare for this. And so it was the most beautiful, amazing thing because the,

The whole room in the committee room was just filled. And they had it being live streamed as well. So I was listening to it. Here I am in Missouri. And this is happening in Texas. And we've got moms all over the country who are aware of this. They're listening to it because they've all contributed and made phone calls. And the seats are filled with women, with moms. They were all moms.

moms. And it affected all of us around the country. So all the moms around the country were calling in and saying, no, don't let this happen. And there was a mom who got up, she's Hispanic, and she did her speech in English. And then she said, no, my time's not up because now I have to do it in Spanish. And so she did it in Spanish for all the mothers who were listening in Spanish. And it was incredible. We were able to win by one vote.

Amazing. And then they tried to do another last minute thing. They held back one little piece of this that could have opened the whole door again. And so they had a vote that they had scheduled for November, like right before the election. Quietly. And very quietly. They weren't telling anybody about it, but we started blasting it out everywhere and we won by four votes. So it stopped. And

And now the Texas educational standards is actually full of love America, respect Texas, and families are cool. See, is that not amazing? Nobody knows about this. These are the moms who are fighting in the dark hours in one room in Texas. That's what's keeping our country free right now. So there's another story I just love to tell because people don't realize just how powerful and influential that you are as a mom. And...

when you think about what you were talking about with, with, with leveling the culture, we're determining it. Women determine the level of the culture and wherever we set that bar, that's as high as it's going to go. So if a woman walks into an office and she's, you know, just got the job, she walks into the office. So she comes in dressing, you know,

Not very well. Immodestly. Immodestly. And she's cussing like a sailor. That whole office is just going to, that's what they're going to be. But if she comes in dressing classy and carrying her head high and

they're still going to swear because that's what they do, but they'll apologize every single time because she has set the standard and they're going to want to rise to that standard. So we're setting this culture and we need to rise it because it's the whole Esther and Jezebel. The Jezebels are running amok out there and the Esthers need to rise up. And that's what Moms from America is doing. Okay. Good news and bad news, Al.

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Listen, if you care about your family, if you care about your kids, that's what we're doing. We are protecting our children. We are reclaiming the culture. We are restoring the Republic. And the Republic all stands on those universal principles and truths, God, freedom, and family. And that's what our foundation was, and that's how we lifted up and became the most prosperous nation on the planet. Why would we want to lose that? So we are not a...

a political organization. We're not a religious organization. We are a principle-based organization. And you can deny God all you want, but the fact of the matter is our founding families very much believed in Him. And that's history. So you can take that into the classroom and you can say, "I'm sorry, I'm just reading the founding father's own words. Don't tell me what he said. Here's what he said. Here's the letters that they wrote." It was very clear that the Bible is our sacred book. This is what all of our laws are founded on.

So we need to go back to that place where we have that foundation that holds us together and unites us together as a people. And that's why we're so excited about celebrating America 250. I think this is an opportunity for us to come together again as a country.

and stand for those things that do unite us. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, I mean, that's our mission statement, our bylaws, our birth certificate. That's what unites us together. And every state that came in the union adopted those things. And when people are coming from other countries and they're understanding more what America is about and wanting to fight for it than those who were born here, we need to turn that around. We need to change that.

So we have a program called the cottage meeting project. It's like Tupperware for Liberty and you can do it in your home. You can invite your friends in, you can do it online. We have them online now and you will learn the true story of America, the principles of Liberty and the constitution in a way that is relatable to moms and, and,

it's life-changing. That's what we hear the most. It's life-changing. And even if they only meet once a month, by the end of a year, they have more knowledge and understanding of America, the principles of liberty, the constitution, than the majority of elected representatives, judges, and attorneys in the country. And we have tons of anecdotal evidence to prove it. And we have had moms who've gone toe-to-toe in respectful conversations with those who represent them. And they're like, wait, wait, how do you know this? Wait, let me take

notes because the constitution is a simple document. It's what the people who've destroyed it have tried to do. But this comes down to one thing. We are in the middle of the biggest war of our lives. And there are only two armies, gods and the devils. And you just have to decide which side you're on. And God wins in the end. So you might want to be on that side. But if the devil had a religion, it would be communism.

And what we are seeing is a Marxist-Communist takeover of our country. And the only thing standing in the way is moms, because what they want is our kids. And we are going to stand there with our husbands, with our men, and we are going to make sure that that doesn't happen. And that's why this massive mom movement has just risen to the top.

Because they crossed a line when they went after our kids. Well, when we think about our kids, we've always thought about as Christianity is we take care of the ones who can't care for themselves. We take care of the children. We take care of the orphan. We take care of the elderly. These are the ones that the other side is exploiting because...

because for the reason that they are vulnerable and that they can be used. And so we have to stand up even more. And so what you're doing with moms, I told Jace, I was like, you come between me and my kids. Somebody comes between me and my kids. They're going to see a side of me they have never seen before. It's like I turn into a different animal or something. A lioness, a mama bear, whatever it is. It is going to come out. And I've had to advocate medically for my kids, spiritually for my kids, medically.

And it does. It turns you into something else. And so...

It's smart that the moms are the ones that are willing to be used to do this because I was sitting here thinking when our kids were little, when Reed first went to kindergarten, and I was like, you know, we're going to be those involved parents at school, private Christian school, you know, very much in a bubble. We're going to be involved in this. And so we went to the orientation. He and I together went to the orientation for Reed's kindergarten year, and Jace on the way home said, no.

I am never going to those again. And he never did. I was the one, the mom, who went to all of the open houses, who went to all of the orientations, every meeting, all of the things involved, because that's what moms do. Dads really don't want to do that. Am I speaking for you? Well, he lost me. Look, this guy gets up. You don't have to tell that story. Can I tell that story? Please? Let's not. It's the most fascinating story, babe. Ah!

Look, because you're talking about people have... I'm going to do something. See what happens on this podcast. That wasn't that bad. Look, it wasn't that bad, but I thought, this is a terrible standard. Because he said there's one rule he really hyped it up. And he's like, there's a word we'll never say. Well, I'm thinking...

It's got to be a four-letter word. Corporal punishment if you say this word. Yeah, say this word. So I'm on the edge of my seat. I'm like, is he going to spell it? I mean, he literally had me riveted.

And he said, and I'm going to say it. And I was thinking, I mean, there's kids here. And look, he said, and the word is, and it was just, I was just like this. And he said, but. Like your backside. Yeah. It was a four-letter word. B-U-T-T. I thought, I'm out.

If Jace can't say butt, he's out. And I told my kids, I was like, you remember what he said about the butt thing? I will be your advocate. Because I just, I was so appalled. Well, I wish we were back there. Holy cow, there's something there. No, I know. That's where we were. That's why she didn't want me to tell the story. But I just thought, of all the things, that's what we're going with? She did say small private Christmas. Let's just go back.

But I'm making the point that it shows you about people in charge. This old boy evidently had a traumatic experience about the word bus when he was a kid. And he infused that. They did a wonderful job and they're wonderful people. And I hate throwing him under the bus, but I was thinking, think bigger. There's a lot of other words that are way more offensive than that. Well, imagine what we're fighting now, what you're talking about. Do you feel like you guys, because you mentioned about textbooks and schools and school boards,

Is that sort of the sort of frontier now in terms of culture? Do you think it's, I mean, obviously you guys are doing a lot of work there. I will say some of the most riveting, most like put hair standing up on my arms moments is watching mostly women, mostly moms in their minutes where they get to speak to power, speaking

I mean, really talking about these issues that affect their kids. I mean, those things are inspiring to the rest of the country and you're starting to see it more and more. Well, you are. And the media stopped reporting on it because they've realized it's backfiring on them. But the significant thing is that they're making, they opened the door and they went in and they were obviously justifiably angry, but they were going in just being right and angry and, and,

What we did was help them be powerful and effective. Because if you're just going in with a t-shirt and yelling, you're losing. But if you go in and you have a compelling argument and you're speaking truth, and all you're doing is reading the books that the children are exposed to, and they're saying, you can't read that here because it's on public TV, then you're like, you just made my point.

And that's what's happening. And the kids are begging. They're literally coming home begging their parents, please don't, I don't know what to do. I don't want to be picked on. It is adults that are bullying children. It's abuse. It absolutely is. They are physically, mentally, emotionally abusing our children. And that's why we're standing up. But this is the

same thing that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao did. They all knew if you're going to take over the country, you go to the children first. And that's one of the things we teach in our Mama Bear training. The first 15 minutes is a history lesson on those three horrible despots. And their jaws dropped to the floor because they realized that's happening right now. It's called Mama Bear training? Yeah.

Yeah, mama bear training. I love it. But the whole goal is to kill God. You can't kill God. You want to kill God and enslave the people. And that's the reason why they're attacking America. It's like the last bastion of hope.

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puppy, big old puppy named Liberty. You were holding it earlier and I thought, I was wondering if it was your support. I didn't even know. She dropped it earlier and she was trying to pick it up with her feet. I didn't know that. Well, look, you've been so inspiring. I literally thought you just plucked it out of thin air.

It crawled around the floor for the first five minutes of the podcast. Your whole speech, I've been hearing God say, send in the moms. Send in the moms. Here comes the dog. All right, tell us about the pup. So the Liberty, it's about going into all these Liberty trips. We have a thousand locations that families can visit, monuments, memorials, where they can go and visit and learn the story of America and take Liberty with them and take pictures and share on the Instagram. And where's Liberty? Where?

wherever you are. And we have children's books to go, but here's what inspired it. I was in Hawaii and, um, there's this, uh, little known site, uh, that is, um,

a Bedouin temple and it has grave sites and everything, but it's, it had this little moniker that we hadn't noticed for forever. We were there a dozen times. My daughter in the back was 14 at the time knowing about, you know, I love America. She said, mom, mom, that sign says gardens of America. So I'm like, oh my gosh, it does. And it's a little sign. So we go up the road that was off to the left and we found this

large 20-foot granite monument and the inscription on it, this is what launched the whole entire idea of bringing us together as a country. It said, "...in response to the promise of liberty, opportunity, justice, and freedom of religion, we left our native lands, which we loved so dearly." Think about that. They loved where they were, but they came here because they believed in these things.

And coming from the farthest corners of the world, we arrived in America. We fished her waters, farmed her fields, worked in her factory, sold her products, and realized that here in this beautiful land, we had fulfilled our hopes and dreams for ourselves and our children, now united as one people.

We work toward our equal goal of living as equal Americans. God bless America and all the good people who made her strong. That is what unites us as a people. That is what this is about. And this is why we need to cherish the story of America because it is what unites us. Yeah. So you went up on the hill.

a mom, you came down a mama bear. Yes! And she has eight children. So that automatically makes you a mama bear. Yep. Nine grandchildren. You think mama bear, don't mess with her, don't mess with Grammy

Grizzly. Granny Grizzly. That's another set of them. Missy, actually, how y'all became friends, you didn't say this, but you spoke at their first event. It was the first event. First big one. And it was a couple hundred people in Nebraska. I actually gave her my confession this morning in our kitchen, but...

But to reiterate that, yes, they invited us to come. I think it was like expenses only you paid because I thought this is a great thing that they're doing. I worked on my speech for a very long time, sent it to Zach. He kind of edited a few things for me because it was bold and it was brash and it was probably going to be offensive. But I was like, I'm sick of

of these people telling my children that they may not be boys or girls. They may be the opposite. And we are not going to tolerate that. We live in a real society, a real world created by God, our Father, and Jesus, our Savior. And so it's like, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to do this. And I've told y'all this, but I told her how we just, Sarah Palin and I and Candy Carson were sitting here like, how did we get here? No one is here. Yeah.

We did our speeches and we left. Because they were just getting started. But you think that. So then tell me now how many people were actually listening because they were live streaming it at the same time. Our best number that we were able to come up with was 3 million. So we knew that there were 5,000 downloads because we could track them. But...

We were encouraging them all building up to this. Apparently, we didn't tell the speakers. We didn't know. We were building up to this the whole time. And it was like, listen, meet where you are. Meet in your church. Meet in your home. And one of my favorite places, there was about five women who were meeting in a spa in California and played it the whole entire time while they were getting their facials. And they were meeting in parks. And so we know of at least one church in New Jersey that had over 250, so 252 women who were sitting there because their feed went down. And they called and we had to help them get it back up.

So our best number, because we figured there were at least three to five that were in each of those settings, was $3 million. Well, that explains a lot. Because then seven, eight years later, we go down. Because when she said, oh, we've been invited to Mar-a-Lago, that Moms for America, I thought...

Well, they've come a long way. And that's where I thought of that when I thought, I think God said send in the moms. Yeah, it was 4,000 cities, 23 countries around the world. It was incredible. Glenn Beck said something. It was, I'm trying to remember the exact year. We were living in Omaha. I think it was like around 20. It was right around the time, actually, it was. It was right around the time of the Moms March and Moms.

and the, um, mom's March for America. And, uh, we, um, he, he had one of our speakers who was on his show and he said, you know, I just, I just feel like there is like this major movement of moms coming. Like we have never seen before. And, and last year, year, two years ago, Glenn Beck came and we presented him with the champion of freedom award. And, and,

And he remembered that. And he said, this is that movement that God was talking about. And it is the moms who are going to, because how can, how can a man stand against a woman who's saying, don't you believe my pain? No guy wants to, no, but no man should have to stand against that. My whole thing was during the Kavanaugh thing. Where are the women in Congress? Why aren't they standing up and saying, sit down and be quiet. You're, you're crazy. And so if we are,

going to tackle this, women are destroying the country. It is women who are going to stand up and save it. The Jezebels need to get out of the way because Esther's rising. I love it. So tell folks, because we're going to have a lot of our audience want to find out about you guys. How can folks get involved in what you're doing? Absolutely. So you can come to momsforamerica.us. You will find us there, everybody there. You can sign up for our newsletter and you'll be able to be connected with everything that we do. Momsforamerica.us. I love it.

Kimberly, you're doing God's work. And man, it's inspiring to have you on the podcast. Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed Podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.