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Today's episode of the Nate Land. Welcome, everybody. We are somewhere. Y'all are hunting lions? What are y'all doing? Big game hunting? I'm going to be looking for ant eaters, the most violent ones, and see if they can beat an emo. I don't think you want to walk up on an ant. I don't think you do.

So, why are we recording this? Because there's a few things. Yeah, it's kind of complicated, but I think in a couple of weeks, you're out of town. Yeah. So, we're doing two today, and this one's going to air next week, and then the one we're taping next week is going to air the following week. Yeah. Because it's a quick turnaround. Yes. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that's it. Because we're shooting all those specials too next week, so that's why. All right.

You think people are like, yeah, man, just do the show. We don't care. I like to let everybody understand what's happening. I think it's, you know. You also were genuinely trying to get to the bottom of it. I did know, yeah. Man, and now we know. Yeah. We pre-recorded some ads, so y'all are going to enjoy those next week. Yeah. Which will be an episode that's not even recorded yet. That's true. That's true. But they were a whole thing.

Yeah. I mean, it was wild. It was a wild experience. I mean, you can just look at these guys. They're still recovering. We're sitting at the table. Everybody raise your hand if you had a problem with the ads. One, two. I enjoyed the ads. I don't know if I could say I had a problem with it. I enjoyed them. Enjoyed it too much. Enjoyed it too much. Well, we were mid-ad read. We were already laughing a little bit. And then as I'm trying to get it back together, I'm starting to read and Brian goes... I mean...

He pulls the mic in. That is a very funny way to have a mic out and then just the opposite of everything and you're just like, hold on, let me get a drink. I couldn't hold it together. The slurp entered my head. Yeah. But we're not going to talk about animal fights this week because it's pre-recorded. Pre-recorded. But this is coming out next week. No, two weeks.

For us, this is coming out next week, but they don't know that, so it'll be the week of. The week of. So this is... It's today. It's today. Yeah. Oh. So everybody listening, they should know this episode is coming out today. Right now. Right. Okay. So, yeah, we talked about animal attacks or the thing. I was going to say we were going to talk about it again. Yeah. But...

Just so you know, I'm sure you're fired up thinking, hey, today was Animal Attack Day. But because we had to pre-record this and the way it works out, we do want input from y'all. So we're giving you another week to give input. Well, next week we're pre-recording also. Oh, man. But we'll have input from you. Well, that's true. That's true. Yes. Yeah, because next week we're recording. Oh, yeah. We can do it next week because next week. Right. So Wednesday you're listening to this.

Oh, wait, we'd have already recorded. The longer the explanation goes on, the more confusing it gets. Does anyone have a time machine? Let's do the ad reads again. So the day this comes out is we're recording the prerecord Tuesday before that. I think that's true, right? Yeah. So we won't know. So we won't know the animal attacks. But we could talk about the animal attacks because people would have... Oh, yeah, that's true. Yes, people would have emailed stuff in. Yeah. So...

It's a real web. Yeah. Yeah. If you're following, it would be like if someone was trying to attack us during this podcast, I mean, I am like trying to help them out as much as possible. Like I'm going, here's how our scheduling, I'm going to tell you exactly where and when. So yeah, look, that's all stuff that should be talked behind doors. And I like to, I guess I got it out there. It's out. Yeah.

You know, it shouldn't be your worry about when this, the people listening, they should not have to. We like to put a lot on their plate too, though. I'm a big believer in that. You make sure if everybody is getting to listen to this, they have to have as much on their plate as we do.

That's not a solid move. I mean, that is a solid move. It's only fair. It's only fair that they need the weight of the world on their shoulders too. I know I'm confused. Yeah. One of these, Dusty's is not going to be here. Yeah. That's what's even crazy. That is true. So we're doing all this, and there's going to be a point when you're going to click on it, and Dusty is someone else will be there.

Be kind of crazy. I may even not be here, but then pop up and poorly read an ad. There's a chance of that. Yeah. There's a chance of that. There's an above zero chance of that, definitely. That I'll be laughing like I'm in church. Not supposed to be laughing. What's above zero chance? That's how you say it? Is that like 100% chance? No, it just means it's not impossible. Oh. True.

it was an odd way to say it in the moment for sure. Do you say that a lot? I do say it, you know, maybe once a month I'll say that. Oh, above zero. Yeah. There's an above zero. Is that a, is that a saying? Have you ever heard the saying? Do you say zero dark 30? I've heard that saying. That's a movie. Well, have you ever heard above zero? I don't think so. I can, I can see Aaron saying it though. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see it. A non zero chance. Uh,

But you know what I meant. No, no, yeah, you said it your own way. I'm fine. I like you saying your own way. We were talking this past Bridgestone weekend. I was in a room with Eric and Tony, who works, I think, does he work with Outback? Mm-hmm. And Tony made a joke. He said, I get the numbers mixed up. I think I have dyslexia.

And I go, that's actually dyscalculia. And Eric just goes, so you really like this, huh? Yeah, that's funny. I was like, oh, man, I guess. Is it dyscalculia? Yeah. That's dyslexia for numbers. Oh. Wow. I did not know that. Yeah, it didn't need to be said in the moment. No, no, no. You're like a walking vacuum. Vacuum the fun out of every room.

Are you always on? You just squeeze up some fun thing that gets floated around so it doesn't make a joke? Yeah. No, you made it fun. Yeah, I like that. Was there something on the bus this weekend you said that kind of like that? Oh, maybe. I don't know. Maybe it was in our Bible talk or something. I don't know. Oh, there was. No, we got in a whole earth out of the sun. Yeah.

Earth and stuff. Solar eclipse. Right. There's something with the solar eclipse. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I forget what it was, but it was something about, oh, people living a long time in the Bible. You were like, they've just started to believe that they actually did live that long. Right. I think that was the thing. That was the time I was on the bus. Yeah. Yeah. That was fun. That was fun.

Yeah, it was. She probably kept it.

You know, on the bus. If you all listening could have been there on the bus, you'd think y'all would have had a pretty good time. The first 10 minutes of this podcast should have been outside. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's a good chance two hours of every podcast should have been done outside. That's what our podcast is, just a podcast that should be done outside before you walk in the room. Yeah, yeah. So these are going to read some of your comments, everybody. Donnie.

Chastain, Donnie Chastain. So with that name, Chastain, in my head, very affluent family is what I think. The Chastains. And Donnie is like, they don't talk to Donnie. And Donnie is like, and everybody's like, the Chastain? He's about like, you like the Chastains? And he goes, yeah, yeah. And Donnie's whole family, they just never got in with the Chastains.

That's how I'm picturing Donnie. And it's just like... It's not even Donald. It's always been Donnie. It's Donnie. Yeah. They didn't even think of Donald. And just the chastain, when the pictures of the chastains are in the paper and all that stuff, like Donnie's, we don't talk to him that much. And you go, you know. But you're a fan of Donnie.

Right. Yeah. We like Donnie. Donnie's who I'm hating on. He's of the people. Donnie's, he's of the people. But I mean, you know, he's of the Chastains, but I mean, Donnie's in trouble a lot. And then, and you know, and it has his name in the paper as well, but not on the celebratory occasion as the other Chastains. It's usually, you know, like kind of what happened last night picture or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I've watched every episode since the first one. Huge fan of each of you all. I was medically retired from the military after my second deployment. This is all ringing true so far.

I struggle with PTSD and anxiety. Obviously, we fall for this country. This podcast has become my favorite show every week and has become a great social icebreaker. Thank you for an awesome two-hour episode weekly. I should probably really read the comment before I... Yeah, hopefully the intro to the comment didn't... He's like, I'm a huge fan. And you're like, oh, sorry, Donnie. Sorry, Donnie. Where you pick his life apart. That's not the name.

But look, I'm going to say Donnie. I said we were big Donnie fans. Right, right. We were. This is the Chastains, his Chastain side. Donnie served this country. He did. And the Chastains are maybe the ones causing the problems of the country. And the Donnie is the one that serves it. And that's maybe the rift of the Chastain family. So it's the wealth of the Chastains are just, you know, and Donnie just comes in here. And Donnie's a good dude. Donnie, when it all goes wrong...

They're going to go call Donnie. And you could have a name like mine where neither first nor last name rings of money or elegance. No, Dusty Slay? Yeah. You're not like, oh, you know, the wealthy slays. It sounds like a wrestler. Yes. And that's your biological name. Yeah. It sounds like, and not at even WWE. Biological name. Yeah.

You're the only one that would get that. You're the only one that would catch that. Your birth name. No, it's his bio. You don't think a guy born like that, he had no choice but being named Dusty Slay. I came out with a little card in my hand. Dusty's the first baby that was ever born that he decided his own name. Life chose it for him. Yes. Is it Dustin? I wouldn't say. Yeah.

I'll say this. Oh, you won't tell us. I'll say this. My parents have never called me anything but Dusty. Yeah. So regardless of what they wrote down, they meant Dusty. Yeah. Yeah.

You look at a big brother as government, parent, anything that's just a little authority over you, you're always like. Yeah. Yeah. So your family might not even know your real name, your biological name. Or I might not want them to know. Yeah. You know? Maybe you don't even know. That's true. Mm-hmm. Who does know? You know what I mean? What are birth certificates anyway? Mm-hmm. Little sheets of paper that have been photocopied so much that you can barely read them. Mm-hmm. And you got to keep them for the rest of your life. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to hold on to them. And social security cards that they say don't laminate. I'm like, well, how am I supposed to keep this intact all this time? What do you mean they don't laminate? I think it says do not laminate. Why not? I don't know, but... Can you laminate your birth certificate? Because you couldn't fill it?

Because you couldn't feel it and maybe tell if it's real or fake. Oh, same reason you can't laminate money. But I've never had a Social Security card looked at like a $20 bill. You've got a $20 bill held up to a Social Security card. I mean, they're just like, all right. Well, it depends on what you're doing with it. If you were using it to get a loan, I bet they'd look into it.

But you do it to get a license. I mean, you do it to get a name. Who cares about a license? I know, but if you had a license, if you were doing something that was fake and you were doing something, no one's looked at your Social Security. I bet you can get face Social Security numbers and cards. I bet it's easy. A couple of phone calls. Oh, Dustin has to do it. I like that you said same reason you can't laminate money. Can you imagine someone showing up to a business with laminated money? Yeah.

This guy, how much is it? I got a couple of laminated bills here. They got a stack of cards. That'd be a clean, crisp 20, you know? I mean, just to even have it in your pockets, what would your wallet look like? Fold like a wallet, yeah. Yeah. You'd have to wear it like kids wear their name tag on. You just walk around showing your money off. On a lanyard, yeah. On a lanyard, yeah. Yeah.

How much money do you got? Well, look. Yeah. And then they look, they flip through it like it's a- A baseball card. Posters at Walmart. Yeah. No, I was saying, yeah. Where was the posters at in the mall? One store had posters. Yeah. It's a store. Where they're big, like a big book that you flip through? Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Hot Topic? No, wait. No, it wasn't Hot Topic. FYE? No, it was an older store than that. Yeah. Spencer's Gifts. Spencer's, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a hot, hot store. Yeah. Spencer's Gifts, yeah. You shouldn't be going. That was an inappropriate store to go to when you're a young kid. I bought a fart machine from Spencer's when I was in middle school. I had some good times with it. It was a good summer, dude. Spencer's Gifts is... Teenage boys are in there. It's like...

It's more inappropriate as an adult. Oh, yeah. I go in there now and I'm like, oh, what's going on in here? As a kid, you was like, yeah. Dalton Locke.

Recently moved back to Old Hickory, Tennessee. That last name makes complete sense. Dalton Locke sounds like someone I was going to guess is from Old Hickory. Recently moved back to Old Hickory, Tennessee, and I saw a Nate Land sticker on a Camry during my morning commute. It brought me so much joy, even though the Camry cut me off. We're having a great time. All right. Having a great time. Trying to thank you.

Yeah, I'm almost thinking I could probably figure out who that is. Yeah, Abby. Yeah, it might be Abigail.

Trevor Martin, did Aaron ever consider that the Whopper ad he referenced that plays all the time might be a targeted ad? No shade thrown as I'm a bit of a hefty fella myself. I would think that, but I was not watching YouTube. This is like the Super Bowl I think we were talking about. I don't think they're targeting ads for the Super Bowl to me. Cheers, Super Bowl.

Your Super Bowl is a Whopper. Is your Super Bowl, when you have your own Super Bowl, do you buy a Whopper and a Big Mac and let them go at it? Yeah. Just do that in your room privately? Yeah.

And a whistle. Yeah, you're in high school, you walk in with two bags. Mom and Dad, don't knock on the door. I'm going to be busy for a while. And you set it there. Do it. And you played with the Whopper and Big Matt and ate them. Eric Farmer, we're dead set on catching up in your podcast before we see Nate in Greenville on May 13th. In episode 65, Nate said to reach out and coordinate a round of golf during his travels.

I put that in because two years ago when Nate asked people to do that, now for two years I've been responding to people's emails every week.

Let them know. Nate's not available this week, so I'll just put that on there. Yeah. Look, in theory, I said it because I think I would like it. I also didn't realize how busy it would be. Look, if I can ever go golf with someone, I have a couple times, but it's pretty tough. It's just such a long –

I need to go chip. What I could do is you just go practice a little bit or something. But it's such a big commitment. We're usually coming in on the bus the night before, and it's just such a long – everything's kind of a long day, and these shows are – it's more – you don't want to be tired at the show and stuff, so that's what ends up happening a lot. So I wasn't able to do it. I honestly thought I was going to be able to do it.

I had a guy in New Zealand offer some golf for you. He come there. He says, the nicest course outside of the United States. Oh, really? Then he went on to say, there's no way I could ever get on there. I'm a plumber, so Nate's my only chance to get in there. So I appreciate this guy's honesty. He wants to play with you, but he needs you to get him on. All right, yeah. All right, we'll try to get him on.

Since we are so busy, the only way we buy tickets is last minute. And Game Time has killer deals on last minute tickets and include their best price guarantee. I like the Game Time app because it makes it very easy to see the seat view when you look at it.

It's like when you click on it and it shows you the price of the ticket, it shows you the view of your seat, which is pretty awesome. Because you try to get where am I going to get a seat? Where am I sitting for real? And so this does it. Stream news outlet here. This is CNN travel. I wouldn't expect mainstream. I mean, mainstream is always covering for the conspiracies. So I don't believe it at all.

Well, there's a map of her trek right there. Yeah. She didn't go all the way across. That's for sure. Well, it's like a technical cross. But it's a cross. It's a long walk. I don't believe that. I don't believe that this woman took a boat down there by herself, ported it at the dock, just got out and walked. 59 days. She was in the middle of Antarctica and started hallucinating, started smelling fish and chips from a pub. Hmm.

Yeah, I think that's what happened. She was hallucinating from a fish and chip she ate at a pub. She's like, I'm in Antarctica. She says the plane dropped her off. Yeah, I don't believe it. I mean, I appreciate you sending this in. I mean, that's temperatures minus 40 Celsius, so what's that? Minus 40. That would be a grand total of negative 40 Fahrenheit.

How's that? Negative 40. So that's what she was having to walk in? Yeah. That's what's like, people would do it if it wasn't for that. But I would like to feel that aloneness would be wild to just be. I don't buy it. I don't think that story's real at all. She said, I realized I was absolutely petrified. I wasn't scared of dying or injury. It was just that level of aloneness that was instantly frightening. Just the weight of the amount of time on my own.

Yeah. Yeah, go to Kansas sometime. Yeah, yeah. I mean... Well, I don't know if I believe people are trekking across Kansas like they say they are. That's my conspiracy. I don't think Kansas exists. But, yeah, I just don't... I'm not buying this. That's pretty good. It was good. Yeah, it was good. It was good.

And then we're in Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louis, and you got a little Kansas City not in Kansas City. Your own main city doesn't want to be in your state. Right. Yeah. Maybe it doesn't exist. And then you have Arkansas spelled like Kansas. I've been to Kansas. Arkansas. Arkansas, yeah. Arkansas, yeah.

Kansas are Kansas. I read this article. She talks about how, yeah, you just feel so alone. William Shatner said something similar when he went up in Jeff Bezos' thing up in space. He talked about how the vastness of space and how everything's just, there's nothing alive up there. It made him kind of depressed. He had other people around him, though. He did, but I guess just looking out, it would make me, I think, feel happy. She said she cried for the first 15 days.

It wasn't until day 15 that she stopped crying. She's pretty cold, I guess. Well, it's tough for women to do a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I don't buy that story at all. I think William Shatner got depressed because he got up there and realized space wasn't real. Yeah. All this Star Trek stuff was all a hoax. That would be depressing. Yeah. Yeah, that would also be sad. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. I appreciate you sending that, but I'm not buying it. I don't know what it'd take to make me believe it, but I don't buy it.

I mean, we might talk to this lady, but you're not going to believe that. Yeah, dropping you off there. Well, I'd love to talk to her. I wouldn't mind talking to her. I mean, she made up a name, Felicia Ashton. Ashton, that sounds like a fake name. Yeah, it does. Yeah. I thought you told me about someone who was walking across it and then they killed him because he was getting too close to something he wasn't supposed to see. No, I don't know about that. Okay. Yeah. Uh,

I'm not saying it's not a place now, you know what I mean? But I just don't think that. I like that. So we have to, we do, we do have to address that with people when they're listening. We have to go, everybody, Dusty believes in it. I know. I just don't believe you're allowed to just go down there and walk around. Yeah. I do. She did have to probably get some paperwork done to do this. Yeah. They let her do it. Yeah. Yeah.

She called the government of the mayor of Antarctica. Yeah. And look at her path, though. It looks like her path could just be right. She's just like, ah, how this coming? That looks like a very broad picture of like that looked like it snowed in Arizona. Yeah. Yeah. That's on a movie set somewhere. Did she give us some footage? Did she come back with some footage? Well, cameras don't work down there. She took that picture. No, I'm kidding. But yes, she took that picture right there. She cried. Yeah. That's her crying. Yeah.

How would she, yeah, wouldn't they just come get her? Did they come just pick her up at the end, or did she call them? I don't think it said. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't say in this article where she went. Well, that shows kind of the track, but I don't know how. Yeah, I don't know if there's another community right there where she landed, or if she had to turn around and walk back. That'd be rough. I bet she, yeah, they said grab me at the other side. Right.

All right. Scott Schaefer, as an English teacher, I often joke with my students about how evil English is with learning new words and how to pronounce things. Isn't it weird that tomb and womb are pronounced the way they are, but bomb isn't pronounced boom? Hmm.

It is interesting. There's some TikTok videos of people acting like they're teaching people to learn English words, and it is wild how many words are spelled the same but sound different or spelled differently and sound the same. It's wild. Like there. People always make fun of people about there, but there's three ways to spell there. It's like we could have came up with a different word. You know what I mean? There is. Yeah.

English is one of the hardest languages, isn't it? Yeah. That's what they say. Yeah. That's why we only do one. They say that... A lot of people say that it's like... We've done our part. It's like some... It's like spell casting in a way. That's why they say when you're learning, you're spelling. And...

Who are these people? Oh, man. What a reach. There are people out there, but there's a lot that goes into it. But I didn't know that this would be on here. I would have to be briefed again to come up with the words. But there is some stuff behind it. Some wild words out there. I'd like to see a conspiracy briefing. Yeah. That's pretty fun. Yeah. You hear about briefings in like...

But I've been in a nice conspiracy meeting briefing. They'd be like, brief me on what's up. And it's like, well, the sun's kind of wacky. And then you're like, okay, okay. And then you run off. Yeah, you try to get a few details. And then you can come back and then people go, what do you mean by spells? And then I would go, well, this word, this word, this word, this word. But I wasn't prepared. That's okay. Yeah. Prepared. Kyle Garcher. Garcher.

In 2007, my senior prank made national news headlines. Acting as a made-up student pep club, I tricked the opposing football team into holding up poster boards that spelled out, We Suck. I don't like that word. Across the stadium, I had a friend film the whole thing, and I put a quick video on YouTube. By Monday, the video was being covered nationally. I was suspended from school as punishment.

Is there a video? At the end of that article, there is. Yeah. Glad we got it up. I'm ready to go. There's a link to the video. Here it is. That's pretty... Well, I thought we might... The article had some more details that I thought we might want to learn about, but... There it is. It's forming. Oh, that's funny. They didn't know what they... Yeah, that's funny. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, why would you get suspended for that? I mean, I guess you kind of have to. Were they good? That's unbelievable. They lifted the suspension later. He said he was on Good Morning America. Jay Leno wanted to have him on. And so many people emailed the school board that I think it crashed the server, and he eventually got reinstated and became a school hero. Yeah, I mean, it was – yeah, it's such a smart – like, that's a – like, you know.

That's someone that's smart. Yeah, I think it was a new school, and the article talked about it took him 20 hours to put all this together, but he convinced the fans there that they were... I don't know. I forgot what it was. They thought they were holding up, but... And it makes sense. You wouldn't know. You're just getting sent. One little spot. One little part. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great. That's funny. All right. Jeff Podzwick.

Podeswick, dusty in the mid-2000s. I worked with many pesticide products in the garden nursery industry that have now been banned or recalled for being unsafe to exposure. What is your inside take on what was really going on and being put in all of these recalled pesticides?

Well, I don't have an inside take, but I just, you know, I think that. The man's gotten to you. Well, you know, they put out, you know, a chemical and then later it'll be banned. And then they just come up with a new chemical and then it gets banned. And then they just come out with a new one. And it's like, you know, people are trying to make money because people want to kill stuff in their yards. So, you know, I just think it's one of those things where it's like, you know. You know what I mean? You sound like big pesticide. Yeah.

Well, it's like, I think they're bad. I don't like them. But it's like, you know, like my front yard. I put some pesticides out in my front yard the other day. I don't like herbicide is what I put out. But I don't like to do that. But my neighbor's yard looks great. The neighbor, the yards around me look great. And I'm like, well, I want to kill these weeds too in the front because I want to, you know, I don't want to be the one neighbor that's looking like got a real...

you know, bad looking yard out here. Yeah. You're already dumping your food scraps in a box in the backyard. That's backyard. That's all back. I know, but I'm saying you're already a lot. Right. Yeah.

You're already like, so it's like, let's at least clean up. The front yard. It's a mullet. Your house is a mullet. Right, exactly. Or no, what is it? Is it a mullet? No, it's more of a, yeah, it's a mullet. Business in the front, party in the back? Exactly. That is exactly right. My yard's a mullet. You live a lot of life like a mullet. Yeah, that's exactly right. But what about that fence? That's the backyard, right? The fence is now covering up the backyard, yeah. But your neighbor was mad about the fence. Yes.

He doesn't care about my yard, but I just want it to look like the rest of the neighborhood or better, you know, but, uh, so I got some stuff kind of taken over. So I sprayed it there and you need something good, but that keeps getting weaker and weaker and weaker because they keep banning all the good stuff. Mm-hmm.

Does he put up a fence, but he put it up the wrong way? The neighbor made him turn it around. I put it on. Did I, haven't I talked about that? I got into a little fight with my neighbor about the fence. Have we? I think on your podcast. Okay. But yeah, I got, well, I got a fence and my, my, I had to, I have a homeowner's association. So I had to go through them and they were like, you have to get permission from your neighbor.

So I was like, all right, I got to get permission to put up what everybody else in the neighborhood already has. Okay. So I talked to my neighbor. He goes, it's fine. And I go, we don't have a survey done, but I figured me and you can just get out there and look at the yard and decide where I put the fence. And he goes, nope, got to have a survey. Wow.

So I had to pay a lot of money to get a survey. And then I get the survey. It turns out I had a little more yard than what we were kind of living out there. So that was great. I like that. So you liked the survey. I liked it. And I actually, matter of fact, I left the stakes in the ground.

showing what my yard was for a lot longer than I needed to, because I wanted him to see what was going on. Was he in your yard? He was, well, he, yeah, he had a little, like his grass is different looking than mine. So a little bit of his grass was on my yard. So I, so then I get the fence built and the guy goes, do you want the nice side on your side or, or, or facing out? And I was like, well, I'm building the fence. So I want the nice side on my side.

But then the guy comes out. He's all mad. I left. He's all mad. He's talking to my wife about it. My wife's like, I don't even know what you're talking about, man. And so I get home and he goes, you got the nice side on the wrong side. I go, why do you get the nice side? And then he's like talking about the homeowners association covenant. And he's like, it says right here in the covenant. And then I was like, all right, this guy read it. I didn't read it. So I figure he knows what he's talking about. So I said, all right, well, I'll flip it.

It's a wood fence. A wood fence, yeah. So I had to get the guys to flip it. They were nice and they did it, but it was like they had not finished it all the way. But it's like me and this guy have only ever had small talk about the lawn. We'll be like, oh, it's a nice day. Oh, look, your grass looks great, that kind of stuff. And then I'm out there cussing at the guy, and I didn't want to be doing it, but he just – he had already cost me so much money, and I was so mad at this dude. But we've made up now. We're friends now. But it was just – I don't know if I've ever heard of someone –

not having the nice side on the outside. What do you mean by nice side? What's different? It's either flat or you have that little bar in the middle. And do you want the flat side? The flat side is the nice side. It's the outside. I've never heard... Well, it's like facing the road, I put the nice side outside because that's what the whole neighborhood sees. But it's like we're talking the divider in between our... It's like...

I have my neighbor's fence on the backside of me has the nice side facing me. So I thought, well, at least it'll match, you know? Okay. And so I was like, yeah, I'm paying for it. Well, his nice side is facing you because just, you know, naturally I think people would build a fence like that. Yeah, but I wanted it to match. I was like, I got this side like this, so now it'll match. Do you use that guy's fence?

Did you lock into his fence or you didn't put your old one? I locked into his fence, yeah. Yeah. You have to ask him about that? No. He actually has a taller fence than he's allowed. Yeah. And I've never complained on him, so he doesn't. He doesn't got anything to say. Yeah.

So you just put, yeah. Yeah. So I just do what I want to do out there. Yeah. And then, you know, sometimes I run into some issues, but we patch it up soon. Well, I'm going to tell Dusty again, he had a septic tank put in and the guy's uncle died and Dusty got mad about it because his uncle died.

Well, out of that, yeah. Well, I had this guy who was building a septic tank for me, and he kept putting it off. He's like, oh, the weather's bad, or oh, I can't get out there this week because of this. And then he's like, oh, my uncle died. And I'm like, your uncle? Come on, man. Yeah. Like a brother or mom or dad. Yeah, but your uncle? It's like, come on, get to work, man. You know what I mean? Like I had an uncle that died, and my sister sent me the obituary.

And I was trying to pull it up. I was in a store. It was loading real slow. And I was like, oh, man, I was bummed. I was like, I haven't seen this guy in a while. And I was like, I'd like to go to the funeral. I haven't seen that side of the family in a long time. And by the time the obituary pulled up, I realized he had been dead for a year and a half. And we had no idea. No one told our family that he died. So I'm like, your uncle? Come on.

man. Yeah. You know what I mean? Unless your uncle raised you. It's like, I mean, I'm close to my uncles. I would go to their funeral. Yeah. But you're not like, you know, you're, this guy's getting paid by the job. Yeah.

You know, it's like, let's get to work here. Dusty looks at it as like, you probably, your family's probably like my family, where there's five families. Yeah. And so you're like, an uncle's like a very loose. It's like, I like my uncles too, but I'm like. Would you cancel a really big gig for an uncle funeral?

That's a good question. Depends on which uncle, but... Yeah, yeah, see? I mean... Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, is this a big... That's how I always think about it. What I cancel, like... I mean, this guy was probably close with this guy. He was in Mississippi. I think a lot of it depends on the age, the, you know... Like, would you have missed Nate's Bridgestone show to go to a funeral and... It really depends on the age and the...

A lot of circumstances and a lot of that stuff. And you can sometimes pick a day or two sometimes too if it's someone that's in. I mean, even if it's sudden, unless it was like someone's out of the country or something, you would be like, we're going to do it. All right, next Tuesday will be this and go in. But yeah, I think it's the situation.

For the record, I've made up with both of these people. And I didn't really get mad at the uncle guy, but I did in my own head. I was like, dude, come on. We got to get this done here. Okay? You can't take off work every time a relative passes. The problem is he's always taking off work. And then you're like, you've let it built up to this, your uncle died. Right. And it almost could feel like it's not real. Yes. You should have been like, I want to send flowers. Yeah. Give me the obituary. Yeah.

That's true. But, you know... And his name has to be in the obituary to prove it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My uncle that died, they didn't even list my mom or her other brother's name in the obituary. They listed one of the uncles. So it's four siblings, and they listed one of them and not the other two. Oh, wow. Yeah. They really just left our whole family out of this. Yeah. Well, I mean, y'all weren't even... You didn't even know he died. Yeah. Yeah.

Clayton Knoll. It has been said several times on the podcast that Nate does not listen to the lyrics of his favorite songs, and that leads him to like happy-sounding songs with depressing meanings behind them. The song you used for a special Good Day by 21 Pilots is about being in denial after losing everything you love in life. Love the podcast and love that Nate is still not understanding the music he listens to. What is it about? About being in denial after losing everything you love in life.

Today's a good day, never know, never know. When the next one will show, it'll show. So I'm going to sing my soul. I'm going to sing my soul. Yeah. I don't know if there's about a guy in denial so much as a guy choosing to just press on. Yeah, seems like a guy that's like, not going to let a little death in the family get him down. He lost his job, his wife, and his child. His friend just sued him.

So he's got a lot going on. He's got a lot going on. Oh, where's that at? That's in the first verse. Wow, he gets right to it. I mean, I did play it because it feels fun. It does feel fun. You know, Billy Joe Shaver has a song, Try and Try Again, and he says, he talks about in that song losing his wife and his son and...

All his money. And he says, if at first you don't succeed, just try and try again. Losing things is not necessarily sad, you know? It's got to get back on it. Get back at it. Okay. There you go. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Okay. Am I losing you guys here? Well, I mean, this guy lost his wife and kid? Yeah, wife and his job and his kid.

Yeah, it's a good song, though. It is a good song. Chris Biggs. At work, we did one of those icebreakers during a team meeting, and the question was, who would you like to have dinner with, living or dead? I tried to be funny saying I wanted to have dinner with comedian Dusty Slay because he doesn't believe in dinosaurs or the moon landing, and it'd be fun to hear him explain all these conspiracies. My boss went next and chose Ben Franklin.

saying how he was not only an extremely intelligent scientist, but also a statesman at the same time, which would lead to captivating conversations. I don't think I'm going to be getting a promotion anytime soon. I have to agree. I'm on your side, Chris.

I get you want to meet Ben Frazier. I mean, meet and talk to them because they're just these brilliant kind of minds and stuff like that. But if you're like, what kind of fun conversation are you going to have? Some of these, they're so smart that you're like... I mean, I don't know. I could go talk to a rocket scientist. I'm not going to have a great time. I'm not going to know what he's talking about. But you look at stuff to be fun and go like...

Yeah, I'd rather, that's going to be super fun. Like, I'm going to be way more like, oh, yeah, that's crazy. All right, yeah. A lot of people believe Ben Franklin ripped off a lot of his ideas from other scientists. So maybe the four of us could have a dinner together and I could ask Ben about it. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be tough to have just conversation. He's from 250 years ago, Ben Franklin. So you have nothing to talk about.

You have no overlap in your life experiences. What is that dinner like? I'd be like, Ben. I could think of some things to talk to him about. What would you do? What was it like? I'm Ben Franklin. How long did it take you to get there? What was it like to do what? I'll go. Yeah. How hard was it to have a horse? What are these lights on the ceiling? You got some basic stuff. What was the temperature like back then? I don't know. I didn't have thermometers, dude.

Like, did you have a lot of days where you thought it was hot and gross? Yeah, I did. And you ought to wear all those clothes. Did you ever wear shorts? I'd wear, they're called knickerbockers. I know, but then you had those long socks. Would you ever just go no socks? Around the house. Yeah. Never outside. Did you know Nikola Tesla?

Oh, no. Totally different time period. Oh. Oh. Did you know him, though? No. You just said it. I mean, Dusty. I think Ben's got you. From a different time in the world. Was he before or after? He was after me, for sure. Oh. Oh.

You know what? Maybe I'm thinking about Thomas Edison. Yeah, this is Ben Franklin. And now look at you. Now you're trapped. You used your one wish and you're at the wrong guy. Actually, I like you a lot, Ben Franklin. Yeah, yeah. You have that $100 bill? Did you know you're on the $100 bill? Did you know that? No.

No, I didn't. That's pretty neat. Yeah. Oh, good for me. Yeah. And that's one of our bigger ones. That's one of the, yeah. Is it the biggest? It's the biggest. Wow. Oh, there is stuff about Ben Franklin though, but it's fun stuff though, I think. What is it? Like he was involved in like some secret societies. He did a lot of wild partying and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yes. See, that's that stuff. That's all pretty out there, though. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think I like the idea, though, that you have accidentally gone to the wrong person. Yeah, yeah. And accused them of things. And so then you got to go, wait, do you know Thomas Edison? Yeah.

Would he have known Thomas Edison? No. No. I was thinking about him. Thomas is after. Yeah. I like Ben Franklin a lot. About 100 years. He goes, do you know? He goes, God, I have so many Thomas Edison questions. I mean, that's what's so – you have so many Thomas Edison questions and a guy that doesn't know – he couldn't know who he is because it's just so far – it's not – Thomas –

What died in 1790. Oh, my God. I mean, he wouldn't even understand the name Thomas Edison. Well, you could say something like, you know that whole kite and electricity? Right. Thomas Edison's going to take it to the next level. In what way? I don't know. Light bulbs. His kite flies higher. Yeah. Oh. Light bulb. Yeah. Bulb.

Yeah. See, that's the difficulty. Think about all the things in this room that Ben Franklin couldn't even, he couldn't just ignore all of this and have a conversation with you. No. In the summertime. This is all crazy. He'd be like, why is it wintertime in the house? Yeah, exactly. Well, you just, you do it in the Roman Coliseum. You got to have an even playing field. Yep. Where the same animals are fighting. Mm-hmm.

So if anybody has any wish questions, they all have to happen in the Roman Coliseum. While Nate is eating with Ben Franklin. I'm saying, I like that. Any time we get something where someone brings up something, it has to happen in the Coliseum because then we can have a conversation about it. If that's even a real place. Yeah. Yeah.

But I mean, right now, Dusty's at this dinner. And I've really miscalculated this. It is awkward. I mean, it's hard to go, when you come back, they go, how was it? You're like, I'll be honest with you, I spent most of it

Going, Thomas Edison. And Chris Biggs is like, dang, I wish I had not invited Dustin. It's a one-hour dinner. That's who he brought. He brought this really hurting the moon conversation when you don't even know. And then the good thing is if you were like, I don't know if I believe in the moon, Ben Franklin might be like,

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're not even thinking about the moon. Oh, yeah. You could go, Earth is flat. All this stuff. They'd be like, yeah, yeah. Check. No, it'd be the opposite. Huh? I mean, he was a scientist. What is that? They didn't do anything back then. They have lights. I mean, they go. What's he going to do? He invented the bifocals. So he can see the ground closer? Like, I mean, it doesn't even. It means he can't. Like, what are they, a torch? He wouldn't know about Antarctica. Yeah.

That's true. And they also would not know about dinosaurs. Our America. We're gorillas. Right? 1776.

Yeah. He was Mr. America. Well, yeah, that's true. He signed the Declaration of Independence, yeah. Well, just at the very end. He'd be like, look what we've done with the place. It depends on when you talk to Ben Franklin. You talk to him when he's 20, he's not going to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. I don't know about America. I think if you're talking Ben Franklin, you're thinking old man Ben Franklin. You're not thinking 15-year, 16-year-old. You better hope. Yeah. You better hope. Ben Franklin, look what we've done with taxes. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.

Oh, he'd be so mad. He'd be like, what? This is why we left. Yeah. Poor Richard. Ashley Matthews. One aspect of the show that I find interesting but doesn't get discussed too often is the impressive array of hats you all have. I think a hats episode or a small segment could be interesting as you are all clearly hat connoisseurs.

My absolute favorite hat is Nate's Whisper Rock Golf Club one. Probably the most beautiful hat I've ever seen. Wow. Wow. I don't know if I've seen it. That's a golf club. This hat today is a guy who came to my golf tournament. Yeah, he's the one who invited us to be his team. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. There you go. So he gave me this hat, and it's his company. Is that the hat you have? This one? No, I think I have a different one. It's a different one. The hats are like, you know, I just...

I mean, we all kind of have different hats. I think it's – I wear some of the same ones, but people give us hats, and I'll just wear them. It's not – you know, sometimes it's – I got a lot of Travis Matthews, you know, Vandy hats. Like, you have a bunch of different hats. But, you know, someone likes a fan sometimes. I like that one. Yeah, a guy gave me this hat in Mobile, Alabama. Yeah, sometimes it's just like a random – St. Louis, somebody gave me this. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, so it's just kind of fun. Have you seen the Nashville Sounds finally came out with their theme night? They're the Nashville Hot Chickens. I think the uniforms are garbage, but the hats are very cool. So are they not the Nashville Sounds anymore? They're still the Nashville Sounds, but every now and then they wear this alternate jersey where they become for the night the Nashville Hot Chickens. Okay.

See that little hot chicken with pickles on a piece of bread? Yeah. It's pretty nice. I don't have sound stuff. Nashville sounds have a great hat with that end on it. Yeah. I need to get one of those. I like those old school. Like that one right there. With the music note on the end. Yeah. But this jersey is a bit of a disappointment, I think. It's like an all-star jersey.

Like it feels like, I don't know. With the flame and... I think when you see them wearing it, you'll be like kind of okay. Like the point of it is being kind of gross. Like that's the point of it. Okay, just, yeah. And it's like, so it's like kind of like fun. And I think it will age well. Like it will age, like when you think in...

20 years, you're going to be like, yeah, that's awesome. It looks like that fake poster you made to convince us. It looks like I designed it on Photoshop. Yeah. Anyway. Did you see where the Florida Marlins are doing Bartman Appreciation Night? Oh, are they? That's nice. When they played the Cubs. Oh, yeah. Kind of sending. It's like. Yeah. Oh, because they won. I don't like that at all. MLB World up in arms over incredibly tacky promotion.

And they should be. I don't like that at all. Apartment Appreciation Weekend. I was on board with it until I didn't understand what was going on. Until you realized what it was, yeah. And I'm like, I'll go to that. Yeah. Finally. I don't like that at all. Yeah. What happened? Is that where a guy caught? That's where the guy tried to catch a foul ball and messed up the game and then the whole city of Chicago. He didn't mess up the game. He didn't do anything.

from their perspective yeah so this guy ruined this guy's life right oh yeah he's a wonderful guy so now they're taking advantage of it and it's yeah it's insane

Because they can. Did he like change his name and change his appearance and move to another? No, he's never done interviews, never done anything, never asked for anything, never, you know, like just wants to be kind of, they left him just a good guy that was excited and they ruined his life. Yeah. They ruined his life. I mean, he's made his life probably great afterwards, but they just, they're still doing it. And it's been whatever the years are. Wasn't it the Marlins they were playing in that game too? Yeah.

Yeah, that's why they're doing it. That'd be really weird if they had nothing to do with it. Right. Sarah Nistetter. We were talking with the kids recently about Noah and the flood. Is it a story they have heard? Oh, it is. I actually read that backward. It is a story they have heard many times. This time our first grade daughter asked, how did God flood the earth? If it is round like a ball, wouldn't all the water just fall off?

I couldn't help laughing wondering how Dusty answered this question. Well, it's a question I ask myself all the time. But the water is being held right now. Yeah. I mean, that's what they're saying. It's, yeah, I don't know. Tell her gravity. It's gravity. Yeah. Yeah.

Is that where you're going? Gravity. That's the answer? Yeah. I'm going to draw on a limb here and say gravity is involved. You're going gravity? What are you going to go with? I'm also going to go with gravity. Dusty, what are you going to go with? I'm going to go Antarctica, stretched around. Antarctica is the bottom of the ocean. It's everywhere. It's the interior. Yeah. I like that one. I'm going to go. I like that one. Yeah.

Antarctica is... It's more fun. Because the top of it is where it goes, and then it just folds up. Yeah. So the bottom of the ocean is all Antarctica. Yeah. I'm going to go with that. I like that. I like that, too. I like that, too. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good answer. You know, an interesting thing about... Is it on the board? No.

Noah, though, is that when you... They always say two by two. You know, the animals went on the ark two by two. But it says in the Old Testament, it says all the clean animals went in numbers of sevens and the unclean in by twos. Oh. What's a clean and unclean? Well, they get into that, you know, Leviticus really breaks down the clean versus the unclean animals. But Leviticus had not even been written yet when the flood was happening. So...

They seem to know clean versus unclean even back then. Pigs are clean. Unclean. Pigs are unclean. I'm joking. I know. Is there any kind of archaeological evidence that there was a massive flood years ago? I think so. Okay. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I don't think this is a place for that. Well, yeah. But I just, you know, they brought it up. No, yeah. Go ahead. No, no. Just say that interesting thing. No, I think there is. I think...

I think every ancient religion or many have a similar story. Talk about a flood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There you go. Hope you're happy. You can't get that college. They don't want you. They try to get out of you, don't they?

I went to a pretty Christian college. Still a college. Yeah. You're right. They were at odds the whole time. Yeah. They floated some stuff in there. Those teachers. And you see it pop up every now and again. Yeah. It comes out of them. All right. I'll push it back down. Yeah. Sorry, y'all. There you go. Do the right thing.

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Very nice to have. Over 3 million way up through Michigan. We drove from Nashville all the way up through the UP. Yeah. Connected through Sault Ste. Marie. Came around through the UP. So I've seen a lot of it. Yeah, we did Traverse City and then up around to Sault Ste. Marie and then Harris, Michigan. And then I think we did some stuff in Wisconsin. Maybe not that same run. Yeah, part of it. So I do like it up there. It's a lot more like the South than they want to admit.

I've been all over Michigan. I mean, all over it. I love it. Yeah. Do they not want to admit it? I think they're, I mean, it's just middle of the country. Like, it's like, yeah, it is like here. But Michigan, yeah, I mean, I think it's very blue collar. Very blue collar, right? Yeah. I may have said that wrong. Like, Illinois would be something that, you know, because they want to be like Chicago or something. But then you're like, well, the rest is. New York. New York is like.

You know, New York's, it's all the cities. But Michigan's not, yeah, they're not condescending about the rest of the city. I don't think so. Okay, you're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So Michigan's two peninsulas. Did I say that right? Yes. Wow. Thank you. The lower peninsula is the shape of a mitten. Yeah. And then the upper peninsula, or the UP, and they're separated by the Strait of Mackinac.

And then the Mackinac Bridge... Mackinac spelled like Mackinac in some places, right? There's two spells. That's right. Remember that? I do. Yes, it's Mackinac Island. But they say Mackinac... And then there's Mackinac City. Yeah. Oh, did I say it wrong? No, no, because you said it both ways. Oh. But that's the bridge right there. Yeah, it connects the UP with the rest of it. Well, yeah, and Morgan's done some shows on Mackinac Island. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. You can't... There's no cars on there. Oh, wow. So you have to take a boat...

To the island and then get around the rest of the day on horse and carriage. I love that. Really? Yeah. Geez. Why not just do it right there? That's big money, though. It's one of the big tourist destinations to go. Oh, it does look really nice. I'd actually like to live there. Yeah. No cars? Yeah. Okay. Supposedly beautiful there. This looks way better than I thought. There was a movie somewhere in time with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. Oh, okay. Macanel Island.

Wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, I've heard of like... I mean, this looks like where they filmed the Truman Show. I mean, this looks like... That's in Seaside, Florida. I know, but I'm saying this looks like it. Yeah, but if you go there and the weather's nice and you just... Yeah, that's so crazy. No cars. How do they get stuff? I guess they get on that boat. Yeah, I guess they do the boat. Yeah, this seems amazing. I think it's just a tourist spot. I don't know how many people live there, but... And they have no cars? I believe that's correct. Correct.

Yeah, I don't see any of those pictures. They have a population of 583 people live there. I'm guessing most of them probably just work, work in the hospitality. But 818 live in the same house? Where's that at? Right after it? Oh, that huge house, I'm guessing. That one that we saw. It looked like the White House, but it really stretched out left and right. Anyway, I can't find it. This big one. So a person from Michigan is called a Michigander or Michig...

michiganian i guess um but people from the upper peninsula are sometimes called youpers yeah you know what they call people from the bottom trolls trolls yeah oh wow because they live below the bridge like a troll would what bridge the mackinac bridge the one that goes that bridge that connects oh yeah the upper peninsula really seems like it should be wisconsin it's more connected to wisconsin than it is michigan yeah it doesn't even touch michigan

Yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah, it doesn't even touch Michigan. What doesn't? The Upper Peninsula. You're right. Yeah, it's just sort of a part of Wisconsin. Oh, wait. Oh, oh.

So this is the UP, right? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever even been up there. I guess not. I don't think I ever knew Michigan went up there. Yeah, it's like really, it's awesome up there, but it's harder. It's harder than part of Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Toronto's way down there.

Yeah, that's very interesting. I don't know if I've ever known that. Yeah, me and Aaron got a video on YouTube of driving across that thing. We were there in May, and this Lake Superior was frozen still. In May. Still huge ice blocks on the shore. I honestly just thought Michigan was that glove. The best.

The mitten? Well, that's the main part people think of. Yeah, that's all I've ever thought of. So you can imagine the animosity the Oopers have to the trolls. They're sort of second-class citizens. Well, the trolls they look down on. That's not a good name. Well, I don't think they look down on them. I think they're resentful that they're being looked down on.

I know, but they gave them a pretty rough name. Yeah. I don't think anybody's called a troll, and they think, all right, appreciate it. Yeah, some real rough biker guys yelled that at us when we were on stage bombing in Harris, Michigan, in a casino in the daytime. You called your trolls? They were telling us that that's what they call people down. Oh. Because we were like, yeah, we were just down in Traverse City, and they were like, trolls. And they were like, that was pretty nice there. They were nicer to us than you're being right now. Yeah.

Yeah, I love Michigan. I mean, I just went and did a thing way up on the tip of the lower peninsula. Very nice area. How did Michigan get that part? Wisconsin just kind of let it go. I don't know. That's a good question. I think there was a war. I think there was a battle. With Canada? I mean, why was Michigan even, you know, is there a point that they go, why do we even want this part? They said sell it to somebody. They had a border dispute with Ohio. Oh.

The UP is part of the same Great Lakes ecosystem as Wisconsin's Northwoods, and there's a water boundary between it and Michigan's Lower Peninsula. The border dispute led to Michigan's ownership of the Upper Peninsula. So there was a war. There's bloodshed. People died because of this. And over between...

Wisconsin and Michigan? Between Ohio. Yeah, I don't know how Ohio gets in there. Ohio always finds its way in, dude. They always want to decide. Ohio and Michigan, I mean, they have some big problems. Yeah, why is Ohio jumping in there? They just, dude, they got nothing else going on. They always try to ruin everybody else's stuff. I got to look into this. I'll look into this and I'll report back. Okay.

Ohio fan? He's really slamming. It goes back to Notre Dame again. Do you guys know the capital of Michigan? Traverse City. I would say Detroit. That's a good guess. Lansing. You are correct. Oh, dang. Close. Michigan's called the- Why were ours good guesses?

Well, Detroit would be kind of an obvious choice. Oh, you weren't saying good guess to Traverse City? But Traverse City is a good guess because you didn't go with the obvious choice. I think Traverse City is the cherry capital of the world. The bar was pretty low for a guess. Well, at least they got two cities in the state. You did the obvious one. You did a not obvious one. Great guesses. Traverse City is the cherry capital. Okay. They got all the cherries up there. Oh, so yeah. So better put the capital there, huh? Well, it's the capital of something. I didn't know that. Yeah. I was just there.

I had a cherry pie at the airport. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Way early in the morning, but I was like, this could be good. How was it? It was good. Yeah. The girl asked me, did I want to heat it up? I said, yeah. And then she didn't really do it. Oh. Did they even have really a microwave? I don't know what she had, but she was like, do you want to heat it up? I go, yeah. And then she put it in a thing, but it wasn't really hot. I don't think I like cherry pies. I don't like apple pie. I'm not a big cherry guy. Apple pie is the best. I like cherry flavor.

I love cherry flavor. Yeah. But I need the fake flavor. So Michigan and Ohio were fighting, and then Congress stepped in and was like, all right, Michigan, let's cut it out, and we'll just give you the UP. So Wisconsin didn't even get in on it. Wisconsin, they didn't even let them. They didn't even give them a seat at the table, dude. Yeah, I mean, where is Ohio compared to Michigan and Wisconsin? I don't even know how Wisconsin's not involved.

Ohio shares a border with Michigan right here. So Toledo is right between Michigan and Ohio. Okay, pull it out again. I know, but Ohio's down there, so why is Ohio trying to get way up there? They're not. They're fighting over this. Michigan got the UP as a compromise.

So it wasn't a fight over this. It was a fight over something else. If you leave Ohio alone, we'll give you the UP. So they were fighting down there. Yeah, the Battle of Toledo. Yeah. They were fighting over Toledo? Toledo. Yeah, imagine one day Toledo, people used to fight over it. I think I've been to the camp at Toledo. I think I went to the, they have a fort there.

So I might have seen that fort. It's a giant, giant fort. I don't know if it's Toledo. I want to say it's Toledo, but there's a big, big fort. Like, I mean, unbelievably big. Like, so big we didn't walk around it because it was just too big. Wow, man. And then, but if they get the UP, I mean, man, you kind of feel, I mean, Wisconsin's like, what? Like, I mean, they just gave them half of Wisconsin. We'll give you half of Wisconsin if you guys stop fighting. All right, that's enough.

Take over Wisconsin. And Wisconsin's like, but we were. We were playing it cool. Enough, Wisconsin. So people in Michigan call it, well, it's the Wolverine State. They're not sure why it's called that since there's no Wolverines in Michigan. One idea involves the land skirmish with Ohio. At the time, people in Ohio called Michigan neighbors Wolverines as an insult.

I like that the Ohio State football, Michigan football rivalry, I like that it's rooted in, I mean. There was an actual war. Yeah. Like it's beyond just two schools. It's like, I mean, they do not like each other. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I was doing shows in Columbus, Ohio, like two years ago when Michigan finally won for the first time in two years, and it was sad at that show. I think you were there. Yeah, I was. Yeah, it was sad at that show. Look at that wolverine. He needs to get in on that animal fight. Yeah. Yeah, wolverine is pretty scary. Couldn't take an emu, though, I'll tell you that. No. Not with a gun. Yeah.

Over 40% of the state's covered in water more than any other state. Over 40% of the state? Yeah, look at that line right there. All that water is part of Michigan. Oh, yeah. Well, you're just labeling water? Somebody gets to claim it. You're saying that they get half of Lake Michigan here? I would think Lake Michigan's all theirs.

Wisconsin's like, whoa, we don't get a lake and we lose half of them? Yeah. They get half of it. 40% of it being water is very loose. Like you're just, you know, you're like, all right, you just have a lot of water there. That would be, you know, it's like when the ocean's like, the earth is 80% water and you're like, you know. Talk about the good parts, yeah. Yeah.

That's a loose, I don't know if I... 40%. We almost took, me and Aaron almost took a ferry across Lake Michigan one time to go to Ag Harbor to do comedy in Wisconsin. And I just thought we could just drive up to the ferry and just get right on it. Just how dumb we were. We were like, well, let's just pull up.

hop on a ferry but you had to like schedule it yeah obviously it leaves at certain times like it was so obvious once once we figured it out yeah we thought at any point there'll be a ferry there we'll just hop over the lake yeah exactly wave it down from the outer banks we want to go that way kind of what we were thinking really so we just drove all the way down and back up

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It's good for them. Yeah. Detroit at one point was like top five cities in the world. I think it was fourth at one time. Fourth in the world. What's it now? Six? 27th. Something like that. I remember going, the building's been fixed now, but I remember when I first went to Detroit and they had that building. You could see, were you there? Yeah, I was with you. Every window was broken out. You could see through it. This giant, giant building. Was it a Ford factory? I think it is a Ford factory now or something. Like Ford bought it.

Population of Detroit in 1950 was 1.8 million, and now it's 632,000. Wow. It's smaller than Nashville now. Mm-hmm.

That's crazy. It looked like this right here? Yeah. The Packard plant was it? What happened? It's just the jobs all got taken out of there? I read a few articles. It's just a variety of things. The car companies, everybody came there for car companies, and then now they're spread out all over the place. But it's just been every decade, it's just decreased, decreased, decreased for a variety of reasons.

Yeah, it's a shame. It is a shame. Everybody roots for Detroit, I think. I always wanted to see the Lions win. I'm always hoping that the Lions are going to do something. I'm always pulling for them. Yeah, you always think if a town needs something or deserves it, you kind of want them to have it. But, I mean, the Pistons won a lot.

They've won, and I mean, not even that crazy long ago. And the Red Wings have been good. Yeah, that's true. So you know what? Tigers have had some, they're terrible now, but they've had some good years. They've had some good years. It's just more of a Lions problem. Well, the Red Wings have won more Stanley Cups than any American NHL team. They got it too good. Yeah, take them down a few pegs. Yikes, Detroit. The Lions have the longest NFL postseason win drought. Their last win was 1991.

They're one of four teams that have never made the Super Bowl. Oh, wow. And they've been around forever. Yeah. Who else has? Hold on. I would say the Vikings. No, they've been in the Super Bowl. Have they? The Vikings held the record for a while for most Super Bowl losses. Oh, wow. That was like your Detroit guess. Yeah. That's how wrong you were. What was my Detroit guess? Oh, Capitol Hill. That's a good guess. I would say that was a better guess than the Vikings. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Four teams have not, so the Lions have not made. The Jaguars, Texans. The Texans is one. The Jaguars. Texans. The Jaguars, I think, did make it. Texans, Lions, Texans.

It's going to be one of these, the Panthers. The Panthers make it? No, they were in the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Lions, Texans, I don't know. Jaguars. Jaguars. And the Browns. The Browns. God, the Browns, they've been around forever, too. Yeah. I know. Man, that's terrible. In 1934, Detroit Lions owner George Richards came up with the idea to play football on Thanksgiving Day to draw more fans, and the tradition has continued ever since. When was that? 1934? Yeah. Turkey Bowl.

Everybody has a turkey bowl. You ever have a turkey bowl? There's a lot of like you just go play football with your buddies or they would have, you know. Oh, just to pick a football game? Yeah. I never called it a turkey bowl though. I like that. I could be making this up too, but I'm pretty sure that's what we call it because we have a turkey bowl. I played it at Apple when I worked at Applebee's. Laura came and watched Applebee's.

Now there's three NFL games on Thanksgiving Day, but the Lions are always one of them. The Cowboys are always one. So the Lions had – And it's great. I think I like that it's all day. Yeah. It's awesome. The Lions had Barry Sanders, one of the greatest runbacks of all time, retired at 31. Retired young. He was 1,400 yards from breaking the rushing record. Retired. Would have broken it. Maybe the next season. Yeah. Yeah.

Retired because the team was so bad. Calvin Johnson, one of the best receivers. Of all time. Hall of Famer. Retired at 31. Same reason. Yeah.

I mean, that's pretty bad. Well, then the Matthew Stafford thing to play for them for so long and not really win anything, and then the next year join a different team and win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Why did Barry Sanders then retire? Barry Sanders. I think they were just being abused, just being run down. I don't think that's his official reason. Oh, actually, you know what? Look at this. Yeah.

Barry Sanders decided to retire from the NFL because he was exhausted and frustrated. The Detroit Lions front office did not seem willing to build a wing. And he didn't want to get traded.

That's a good question. I don't know if you'd have been allowed to do as much of moving around. Now, I think you could just request it, and they're going to have to do it. But it would be, you know, you would think, why would you not just go? I mean, he probably was older. He's probably beat up. 31 is, you know, old. Not so young for a running back. Not for a running back. And then Calvin –

Johnson was kind of the same. You know, 31, you're like... But, I mean, you have the... You played probably more than anybody plays in that position. That's how important you are. But, I mean, the season they retired, they had great years. It's not like they were showing they were going down. Yeah. But as a Lions fan, I mean...

It's so frustrating. Two of your best players in early because your team's so bad. The Pistons won back-to-back NBA championships in 89 and 90, and then again in 2004. Right before, it was in between, this is my heyday, there was Magic and Bird, and then when they were kind of phased out, but before Jordan started winning, it was the Pistons. They were the bad boys. Yeah, yeah. And back-to-back championships, and then Jordan took over and

That was it. Well, he beat, yeah. I mean, he had to beat them. Yeah. Yeah. They were kind of the villain. Dennis Rodman was on that team then. Right. Bill Lambert. Did he win a championship with them? So he won? I think so. Yeah. So Michigan football has won more games than any team in college football history. They're known for their dominance of Notre Dame.

I mean, that's just what it says here. I don't make this stuff up, but they do have a winning record against Notre Dame. Do they all-time? Mm-hmm. Do you see what the record is there? I don't. It was like 24-17 or something like that. Okay. It's enough that it's like, why are y'all still playing? I wouldn't say that's dominance, though. Well, all right. I put that part in. Okay. Okay. 24 wins.

16 wins for 17 of you counting. We recently had a bunch of wins vacated. Oh, you're right. So it made it 17 instead of 16. No, no, no. I'm not saying it would change it, but it did change all-time winningest teams. It really affected that. Why did you get vacated? I can't remember. We've self-reported to the NCAA some violations. We're Notre Dame, so they came down hard on us, obviously. They want to

You know, they want the big guys to fall. Never turn yourself in. Yeah. I know. Well, we learned the hard way. I guess you're not supposed to. We did everything you're supposed to do. Self-reported, and they came down hard. Never turn yourself in. Michigan Stadium. I mean, unless they're looking for you. Yeah. Michigan Stadium is the largest stadium in the Western Hemisphere. The big house. Third largest stadium in the world. What about the Eastern Hemisphere? Yeah.

No one talks about it. They don't. They don't. North Korea had the second largest. I looked it up. The largest stadiums in the world. What do they do over there? I don't know. I've been to Michigan game. It's pretty amazing. Yeah. What's cool about their stadium is it's sunken into the ground, a lot of it. So you walk up and it doesn't look too overwhelmingly large. But when you walk in and then it's...

Yeah, if you're standing on the very top of it and you look over, you could talk to someone that's on the ground because you're really not that high from the – Oh, wow. But it goes way, way down. I think Florida is like that. See, if you're on that top row and someone was right there in that grass, you could just yell down at them. That's a lot of fun.

Growing up, my brother-in-law is from Michigan, so I used to wear a lot of Michigan t-shirts to school as a kid. I was hoping to find one of those pictures to bring on, but I don't have it posted, but

Yeah. So I was like, I was like a little, yeah, well, we're talking about Michigan. So I want you to know my affiliation to Michigan that I have a real connection. Well, did the kids at school think you're weird? No, I think I seem very cool. I seem like they were like, Ooh, this guy knows stuff about cities outside of the South. Oh yeah. I think I would. Yeah. You'd be like, what is that? Yeah.

I had a Michigan basketball jersey I used to wear. Is this when the Fab Five stuff was going on? I couldn't tell you anything about them, really. But I would wear the, I had a Michigan sweater. I had a Michigan t-shirt. Is this early 90s? Mid 90s. Okay. Right after Fab Five. It would be. So they were cool at the time. Yeah, it'd be pretty awesome to like, I mean, like Michigan. But what if you did the top row was just even with the street?

If a stadium did that. Oh, that would be cool. How cool would that be? And then make it go down, but even make it a little bit steeper to go down, and it just looks like this. It looks like nothing. So you'd almost be like, make the top be as –

what's that word? Make the top a dome. Yeah. Then you just walk across it. Yeah. It'd be the dome. You could. Yeah. You could walk on top of it. Yeah. You could have it like be, but make it incognito. What's the word that's like? Unassuming. Incognito. Incognito. Inconspicuous. It's conspicuous.

Inconspicuous. Ben Franklin. Yeah. But, yeah, you would make it, and then everybody would be like, oh, what's that? And then you just go down, and you're like, oh. It's the biggest in the Western Hemisphere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could do a basketball court like that, and then people would be nervous about playing there. They wouldn't be. You know, you would go in going like, we can look at this tiny gym. The pit. Yeah. The pit.

I don't want to go into the pit. That's a tough place to play. You don't want to come to the pit. Tough place to play. Call it the tornado shelter. Yeah, also that. Town's tornado shelter. Yeah. Yeah. You could be the tornadoes, whatever your team was. Yeah. Texas. Texas tornadoes. Yeah, that's a band. Yeah. Is it? Yeah. That's Wichita, Kansas. Their minor league team is Wind Surge, which is pretty morbid considering the amount of...

death and destruction that tornadoes cause in the state every year. Their team is called the Wind Surge? Yeah. Isn't that wild? Yeah, that's a tough name. Yeah, because it's like a real problem. I think tornadoes would be better than Wind Surge. Either or. Both of them are bad things. Actual bad things for the state. But that doesn't sound...

The wind surges is not... It'd be like naming your team the coronaviruses. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It'd be better to be COVID. Yeah. Yeah.

That would be a better team name, though. Yeah, yeah. But the Carolina Hurricanes. Yeah, the Hurricanes is a good name. You don't want to put in the Carolina Strong Winds. Swirling Seas. Straight Line Winds. Swirling Seas could be good, though. Swirling Seas. The Swirling Seas. That would be the name of your –

Where the hurricanes should they play. And your mascot could be the letter C, and he just spins around a lot. The swirling seas. What's the thing that goes? Cyclone. No, but it goes down in the water. The drain. Whirlpool. Whirlpool.

Like a whirlpool. Yeah. Doing charades out there. Here's what you do. You do a swirling C, and you have everybody wears a blue, like a, you wear like different color blues. And then it's like when you, they just move like that and just see it. And then it goes, and your stadium needs to be in a circle. And then like the wave takes on a whole new, yeah. Oh, it's the real wave. It's a real wave. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you go to a game there? The Bermuda Triangle. Welcome to the Bermuda Triangle where we take down everything. Yeah. We've taken down lions and bears and jets. Boats. Yeah, everything. Boats. Yeah, all of it. Weary travelers. Weary travelers. Anything. Some people get through, but not many. You're lucky if you do. They live to tell about it. Yeah.

Go ahead to y'all's boring conversation. Sorry, I interrupted over there. Y'all had a private conversation. You ever been in a game? Don't answer it, Aaron. Can I move on?

Yeah, I guess so. It didn't feel like a private company. So, Aaron, you ever been to Game Over Michigan? Yeah, one time we went, and my aunt and uncle, I went and saw them, and we went and had to leave after the first half. But I had a really good time. Beat the traffic. Beat the traffic. I watched them play Iowa, Michigan play Iowa. I was going to set him up for a joke.

Oh. Because it's in Wichita where Old Chicago is. Oh. Oh. Let's go to Old Chicago callback. That's right. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Never mind. I don't think you would have got it, dude. Yeah, you guys don't get callbacks. No, I'm saying Aaron would have. You think you would have picked up what he was laying down? I think so. How were you going to say it? He would have taken me there.

I was going to say, you ever been to a game there? Yeah. You ever been to Old Chicago? That's fun. Oh. I would have got that. Oh. He did it real on the nose. Yeah, but wait. You're doing the joke. You're not setting up him. You just said you were setting him up for the joke. But the joke is you're making fun of him. The joke is on him. Yeah. Yeah, you're not teeing me up for a joke. Yeah, you said it like you were teeing him up for a joke.

Well, I'm teeing up for a joke. He's teeing himself up. You're teeing yourself up. Yeah. To make fun of Aaron. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Was it not said the other way? Yeah, yeah. It was said like... You thought you were throwing it to me and I was going to spike it. I know. That's what I was making a joke of because I was saying like, oh, would he have got it? Like the callback, but you were just going to point and laugh at him.

It's a smart joke for smart people. I'm going to go to dumb it down. It worked in the 80s and it still works now. Bonehead mass audience.

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And it's the healthiest thing you can do. They would fist pound. Eventually, they go, no, no, no. People are dying. They go, oh, we should change that name. We should change the spelling. We've got to spell that differently. I've been to Battle Creek quite a few times. Really? Yeah. For what corporate stuff? I think so. Yeah, Battle Creek was, I've been there in Grand Rapids. I always say Michigan is somewhere I've been.

Shockingly, a lot of times. My buddy John that we lived with, with Michael when we moved to Chicago, he's from Michigan, so we would go to Michigan all the time. I almost see them all in Kalamazoo. I have a lot of Michigan ties. I've just, like friends of my buddy I went to high school with, they live in Grand, I think he got married in Grand Rapids. They live up in Grand Rapids. So a lot of...

I just had a lot of Michigan connections, and so I've been to Michigan a bunch. The Yoders were all out of Michigan. Right, right. So the Yoders were great. They would book all these one-nighters and stuff like that. So they were the first people that I ever got to go on the road with, and they'd book you on these runs. The Yoders really hooked me up. Yeah. Those were all those shows I was doing with Dusty. Those were all fun business games. Yeah, Yoders were –

Yeah, people don't know what we're talking about. They just had a bunch of venues that would do a lot of one-nighters. Yeah. Stuff like that. They got Dr. Grin's, too, in Grand Rapids. Dr. Grin's at the Bob. That's a great club. That's in Grand Rapids. The BLB. Yeah, a lot of great places. The Bob. They put a net there because people fell off.

There's a net in the middle because it's three floors. Yeah. And people were drunk and they've fallen off. Oh, they're doing it on purpose. I don't think so, no. The Gerald Ford Library is in Grand Rapids too. Oh, yeah. Pretty sad one. Got that Ford right out of there. Yeah. Isn't that what Kramer got rid of?

He goes, you know that picture I had with Gerald Ford? He goes, took it to the thing, got that Ford right out of there. I don't even remember that. I think it's the... Where George wants the photo thing photoshopped? Yeah, taking him out of the photo. And he says, you remember that photo I had with Gerald Ford? I think it's Gerald Ford. Kramer says that. Yeah. Took that right there, got that Ford taken right out of there, like you were taking presents.

Well, are we going to move on from cereal? I mean, I thought we might want to talk about Kellogg's. Oh, yeah. Yeah, feel free. Post. Yeah, let's get into it. Yeah, Raisin Bran's great cereal, man. No, I do want to talk about it. Post and Frosted Flakes are one of a kind. They never made something like that before, and they all started in Michigan. Is that where they invented cereal? Yeah.

Yes. Foster Flakes are delicious. It's where Kellogg is. The Kellogg Brothers. In post, according to that. Yeah. Kellogg Brothers invented cereal. They were trying to make granola, and they made flakes instead. Cornflakes. Wow. And then they put it in- They said pour some milk over it. Yeah. Were they not putting milk in it? Or would people eat granola with milk? I don't know. I do granola with yogurt.

Starting to have a slight problem with it. Yeah, yeah. I remember I was here when you seemed to discover granola with your head. Oh, yeah. I never had it, and it's become, it opened a whole new door. Yeah, it's good. It's a big problem. It's my new ice cream problem. Yeah. It's a little better, but not.

Yeah, you can say, I'm working on my gut bio. Yeah. Yeah. But I've thought recently, oh, I bet you could just put cereal also in the yogurt, which I bet would be pretty good too because it'd be crunchy. Have you tried it? No. I got such a good thing going with the granola. I like it so much. I sometimes don't. When I like something, I don't like sometimes mixing two things. I'm not a –

Not the most fun. I can become fun in some little things like dessert. Like if I'm going to eat dessert, I don't want just like crazy dessert. Like I want my, you know, we had after the Bridgestone, we had an ice cream bar set up. Obviously, Laura knew I wanted that. By the way, I did not. I had one little tiny cup of ice cream. I didn't even get to eat. You know what I ate after the?

after Bridgestone because I didn't eat because I had to do all these meet and greets and then we met all these people wonderful people met yeah

Well, wonderful. We met some parents from the Covenant School here in Nashville. It's very, very sweet. And I met the two cops. Oh, really? This is completely different. They were there at the show? Yeah. Yeah. The two cops that went in. I mean, there was five cops that went in, but the two that the shooters were, they came in. And I met them afterwards. And so that was very, very nice. We invited them to the show. They were awesome and obviously heroes, you know. And...

Charge them full price. Yeah, of course. You can come. Well, they're basically famous. They can afford it. You guys are doing good. I go, you cops get paid too much. I go, who am I? I say, I ain't giving you... You already get my taxes. I ain't giving you free tickets. You know what I mean? No. They were super cool. But then, so I was like...

You know, so you're just like, and then I go, let me greet. And it's just all my, you know, you just didn't get to eat like a wedding. And then, so I came home, ate bagel bites and yogurt and granola. All right. I love some bagel bites.

It's like a wedding, you know, where you never get to eat. You were walking around, you had to make your rounds. Yeah, you couldn't even enjoy. No, you didn't. There was a heck of a spread there at that after party, dude. Yeah. What was that little thing you were making with ice cream? Oh, it was the ice cream, and I put some... It's a sundae bar. Some Oreo cookies in there. Oh, Oreo cookies. Not granola, but it was very good, yeah. Yeah. See, so even that dessert...

Like I got just a vanilla. Well, I go to the chocolate. He goes, chocolate's pretty – it's been melted. Yeah, it was all pretty melted by the time I got there. And then so he goes, do vanilla. I mean, I got it at like 1230. And so I got just a cup of vanilla with some chocolate syrup on it. Like even with all this stuff on it, I'm not a big like, yeah, yeah, that's a dessert. Like let's try a bunch of stuff on it. Like if I'm going to eat dessert, I just want it to be exactly – I want it to be perfect. Yeah. For some reason, like I could –

Maybe if I don't care about something, I could try something. But if I'm going to eat, I can get so focused on like if I know I'm going to eat, like if I'm thinking like, all right, I'm going to go home tonight and I'm going to eat ice cream and I'm going to eat a big thing of it and I know what I'm going to go do, I don't want –

anything to ruin that so like i don't want any dessert or something before i don't want to get filled up before i want to like i want already i already blocked the time off in my head i already like want to do it at night i want to do and i can and i need it to be done exactly how i want it to be done i don't want to just be like oh yeah i'll have dessert whenever i'm like no no i got to do that at night i need to stop that because then i wouldn't probably eat as much but all right

The crossing the woods is a Catholic... But no one saw any of that coming. Yeah. I've got a million years no one could think in the Michigan episode I could bring up the two cops of the covenant. I mean, not even at the beginning. Yeah. Deep into the Michigan. We're talking about cereal. And then it turns into ice cream. And then it turns into ice cream into...

The two cops. I didn't get to eat ice cream. I had to go meet with these cops and families of the victims. I did. I wanted to say we met with them last time just to, because it was obviously overwhelming to meet them. And our buddy Brett, too, another kid we met. But, yeah, I wanted to shout, and it all just led to it. So I'm sorry. I didn't mean to.

fly it off the handle there i'm along for the ride yeah you know what i mean i love cereal i love ice cream you know heroes yeah all of us i was wondering how you're gonna spend that the cross in the woods is a catholic shrine are we doing no more cereal talk though well i mean we just moved to school shooters so i thought maybe we should just move on yeah

I thought we could go back to cereal. All right, let's go back to cereal. Post makes Sugar Smacks. Big fan of that cereal. I feel like Kellogg's dominates Post, but what's Post's big cereal? I feel like the Smacks is a little... Sugar Smacks? Sugar Smacks is not that big of a cereal. Is it not? It's a good cereal, and it's a famous cereal, but it's not Michael Jordan. Frosted Frakes is like Michael Jordan. What about Corn Pops? Post is honey bunches of oats. That's a big one.

one that's golden chris honeycomb honeycomb oh yeah sugar smacks maybe catalogs raisin bran raisin bran and all the pebbles iterations yeah fruity pebbles so i don't know if that includes cocoa pebbles uh so like if you want to what do you think brand flakes with uh fiber frosted flakes like as far as like i would say raisin bran raisin bran is is could go raisin bran's a big one

Fruity Pebbles, I would say, is the closest, but I don't think it's not Frosted Flakes. I mean, Frosted Flakes, if someone had a gun to your head for some reason and said, name a cereal, you're going to say Frosted Flakes. Or Cheerios. Cheerios. Yeah, Cheerios or Frosted Flakes. Is Kellogg's Cheerios or is Cheerios their own brand? I don't know. Are they like Dr. Pepper? It's their own brand. I told some of that. I think Dr. Pepper's out of Michigan. It's out of Texas. You're wrong on that.

Dusty. Why did you think that? Well, when I was in Michigan, I drove by. Maybe Mr. Pibb is there.

Out of all the things you said, that's the dumbest one you've ever said. And I mean, there's been some things. No, I'm joking. Well, that would be great to me. That's the one where everybody goes, well, that's enough. Whoa, that is enough. That's enough. Go back to the, why didn't you go? I'm trying to find out where Mr. Pibb was invented now. Yeah. Because I feel like I drove, in Michigan, I drove by a building that I thought, well, it had Dr. Pepper on it. Do you ever think about Mr. Pibb having a color? What do you mean? It said the color caramel.

Yeah. You ever think of the drink having a color? Yeah, because they're all clear. I think it's brown. I never think of it being like, I would never describe a color. Like if someone goes, I guess it's such weird to go off Diet Coke. What color is it? You'd be like, it's just some kind of dark liquid. Dark brown. It kind of brownish black. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think. What about a Sprite? What color is a Sprite? White. Yeah.

So why do you guys know offhand so hard where Dr. Pepper's from? Well, we do a podcast, and if you've ever been part of it, you would know that we talked about it. Were you not on the episode? We did the Texas episode with us. Yeah. You were on the Texas episode? I don't think so. Huh? I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about...

Dr. Herb being from It's Its Own Company. Yeah. Remember that? Well, I do know that. I don't think we talked about the Texas episode. That might have been the Greg Warren episode where Dusty was not here. If so, my apologies. I should have listened to it. Now, Kellogg's, man, this list of Kellogg's has the heavy hitters. So, Bare Naked Granola is big.

That's big. Honey smacks. They have honey smacks. Apple jacks, dude. Corn flakes. We're talking corn pops. Raisin bran.

Special K, Frosted Flakes. You got a load. Actually, like Crispix. Oh, Frosted Mini-Wheels. Fruit Loops. Fruit Loops, Frosted Mini-Wheels. Kashi. Kashi's that healthy kind. Rice Krispies. Yeah. They're dominating. One time when I was a kid, I ate Corn Pops, and I threw up the Corn Pops, and it made like a little corn pop pie, and I've never had it since. What is Cheerios? Is there their own thing? That was unnecessary. Was it? No, I'm joking. Okay.

You just made Lauren sick, but that's okay. That's General Mills. Oh, let's see what General Mills might be. They might actually be the

the leader here. They've got Cheerios. Well, Cheerios is like, that's like the Coca-Cola of Cheerio. Yeah. Of Cheerio. And then Honey Nut Cheerios. Honey Nut Cheerios, multigrain. So all these types of Cheerios. Well, they're just, yeah. Chex. Chex. Chex is a big one. Lucky Charms. I mean, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, too. Yeah. I feel like you're getting loud with the food. I'm getting excited. Fire it up. Yeah.

The more I scroll down, the more... I was like, Aaron's getting into it. Oh, dude. General Mills takes this. I mean, I don't even think it's close. I think I'm on board. Reese's Puffs, Cookie Crisps, Golden Grahams, Trix, Kix. I don't know. I'm still with... Wheaties. Wheaties is terrible, but Wheaties... Wheaties is not good, but it's iconic. It's iconic, but...

but I don't even they tricked you into it because Raising Nut brand that's awesome I'm still with General Mills is not yeah it's the best with the Frosted Flakes brand I'm still with Kellogg's with Kellogg's dude that's crazy I'm still with Kellogg's that's crazy Kellogg's or Kellogg's you need your Muselix cereal there yeah that's crazy dude it's the other one is everything

The other one's the most fun. It's versatile. But this is a Michigan episode, though. We've got to kind of... Well, where was Cheerios from? Cheerios is from General Mills. I know where General Mills is at. Let's look that up. If you say you're saying the name of cereal, Cheerios, you think would be the first thing people would say? No, Cheerios are Frosted Flakes. I would say Corn Flakes. I think your age would say Corn Flakes, too. You may be right about that. They're from Minnesota, General Mills is. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah.

I think you're borderline – Frosted Flakes is probably about to get aged out because I don't hear about it like you used to. Frosted Flakes? What you heard about this? You just heard about Frosted Flakes all the time. I don't think I hear about them that much anymore. Tony the Tiger is getting old. You just don't hear about it like you do at Cheerios. Cheerios is the – you hear about Cheerios all the time. Yeah.

It's out on the street. People are talking? You said cornflakes. Cornflakes is crazy. Cornflakes is like... That's cereal. People don't even know what that is. That's how they would describe frosted flakes. They go out and they're like corn chips. Cornflakes, but good. Cornflakes are the... Cornflakes is where it's at. No, your age group decides...

If, what time? I was going to say, you can ask it Harper up here. Oh, Kellogg's has got it by a percentage. Now, these are the 2014 market share breakdown. So who knows how things have changed in the last nine years. But Kellogg's had a slight lead over General Mills.

32% versus 31%. Don't have it up. I'm going to just ask her to name. Well, that's unfair. That's home cooking. She doesn't even like cereal, so it might not be good. Okay. But you're right. This will be the test because it's about the next generation, how they're, you know. Yeah. And I think it's going to be Cheerios. I don't think it's... Are you just going to ask her to name a cereal? Well, so Laura loves cereal. So...

She eats it a lot, and so we have a lot of it. Harper doesn't, but I'm just trying to get a gauge. But it might be a good gauge because it's someone that doesn't think about it that much. But she's probably just going to say what we have. I bet she'll say Cheerios because that's what – I think we have a lot of Cheerios. Okay. We need an unbiased consumer. Go get Felix. Yeah. But Felix is older, so we're not – we have our age group. Like we're going to say, you know –

You said Corn Flakes, which is, you know. You remember a cereal called King Vitamin? Anybody remember that? No. No. You trot my Corn Flakes. Yeah. That's crazy talk right there. King Vitamin. That's crazy talk. Where's Captain Crunch? I didn't see that. Oh, Captain Crunch, mate. King Vitamin. Oh, I do remember that. I do not. I do not.

That has a regular person on the front. It's just a picture of a guy. Yeah, I tell you, I think that's hard to have a regular person. Let me just ask you this question, all right? I'm going to just say cereal. So what cereal comes to mind when you say cereal? When I say cereal? I don't know. What would you say? What's a cereal? Name a cereal. Lucky Charms. Okay. Oh, man. Lucky Charms. There we go. We were trying to see. You wouldn't say Cheerios? What would you say?

Lucky Charms. If I said cereal, when you think of cereal, you think of? That's what I ate. Yeah. Because he ate candy for breakfast. So Lucky Charms is General Mills? How do you feel about cereal? Do you like cereal? Or is it Kellogg's? I think it's Kellogg's. She does not. She does not. All right. It's fat. She said, like, so, yeah, I mean, she's going off of, Laura's got a cereal problem. General Mills.

Michigan wins. Where was Captain Crunch? General Mills is from Minnesota. Where was Captain Crunch? I don't know. Yeah. They might be their own thing. They might be the Dr. Pepper. They're from Quaker Oats Company. That's the dark horse. Look at what does Quaker Oats have. I mean, they could be. They got oatmeal. They got Quaker Oats. I mean, I think General Mills is, they're just doing. It's going to be tough to top that. They're doing so good.

Yeah. They got Life. I mean, Camog's had more. Look, I'm a big fan of Life. Yeah, me too. I don't like Life. They got a lot of granola. How about this Quisp? Yeah, they're done. Crunchy. I mean, that is a weak-looking cereal. I don't like that. I don't think you can have a regular person on a cereal. That's why King Vitamin struggled so much. King Vitamin, it was a tough one because you can't have a guy on it.

Like, it's like just a random guy. Oh, just Wheaties might be the only one. It's an athlete. So it's kind of like a superhero type. Like, that was a dude. That was like a regular dude that was on. I had a Wheaties box from the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta with all the gymnastics girls on there. Oh, yeah. Probably got a crush on them. I did. That was their age.

I can't find just a list of this. It would be weird if I had a brush on them now, but at the time we were the same age. We're still the same age now. Right, but they're not really gymnasts now, I would imagine. Oh, you think they're all fat now? Well, they're probably... Kerry Scrut. They're probably out of the game. Who, Sean Johnson? I think it was Dominique Mucciano was the... Oh, older than... Yeah, Sean Johnson. Like Natasha... Mr. T.

Mr. T. Yeah, so Quaker had Cap'n Crunch, Life Cereal, Quisp, Mr. T's Cereal. They had your King Vitamin. And they were a King Vitamin brand. How about that? Yeah. Yeah.

It discontinued in 2019. Isn't that crazy to think? I'll never have that ever again. It was made in 1968, though. It made it a long time. I mean, that's a good run, dude. That is a solid run. That would be the longest running TV show of all time. It could come back. Probably outlasted the king himself. Captain Crunch is a solid. That's probably that carries everything for them.

I mean, it's enough to keep them competitive, but I don't think it puts them over the top over General Mills or either. No, not even close. But it's like... But I'm saying that's a big brand to have. Like, we have Captain Crunch. I think if you work for Quaker, I don't know if you even think of Captain Crunch. I think you'd be like, well, we have all the Quaker. You're like, I know Quaker. And you go, you know we have Captain Crunch. And you go, oh, wow, that is crazy. But yeah, General Mills is like, they're not even going to answer the phone for Quaker. I mean, they're...

You know, it's like, what are we doing? Like, they have Cinnamon Toast Crunches. Awesome. Reese's Puffs. I've never had French Toast Crunch, and I would like to try that. I like cereal, too. How about Cinnamon Toast Crunch Churros? I thought you said you weren't a big cereal guy. No, no. Harper's not. Laura's a big cereal guy. Okay. I like cereal.

She is a big cereal guy. And then, uh, but I, I like cereal. Golden grams. Golden grams. I mean, golden grams is like the not good fiber one. Uh,

uh not good uh cinnamon cinnamon toast but it's like they're still good and solid and you've heard of them what about apple apple cinnamon cheerios do you remember those cheerios is great general is all true cheerios are those are a good one i think cheerios is what you're saying yeah i think that's what you're saying all right apple jacks you remember that cereal yeah is that not around anymore

It doesn't taste like apples. Well, we eat what we like. Remember those commercials? I remember Apple Jacks. Why do you eat it if it doesn't taste like apples? We eat what we like. You know the live cereal commercial with Mikey? I remember it a little bit. It was a classic commercial from the 70s. Never seen it. You ever heard of it? No.

Treks are not for kids. I remember. I know that. They're after me lucky charms. What was the Mikey one? Give it to Mikey. He won't eat it. Yeah. He likes it. He likes it. Mikey likes it. Wasn't it Mikey likes it? I thought it was he likes it. Maybe it is he likes it. It's one of the classic commercials. All right. So there's a giant cross in the woods. Some Catholics made it. Who cares, right? Let's move on.

What was it? It's the second largest crucifix in the world. Wow. That's pretty cool. The largest crucifix in the world was in Bardstown, Kentucky. So that's just kind of weird. You'd think it'd be somewhere like Brazil or Rome. I guess I missed that when we did the Kentucky episode. There's one president from Michigan. You've already named him.

Gerald R. Ford. Gerald Ford. Thomas Jefferson. Threw in the middle name. Yeah. Was not born in Michigan, but grew up there. But was a football star at the University of Michigan. Yeah. So beloved. Where was he born? Anybody want to guess? Pennsylvania. Wisconsin. Lebanon. Tennessee. Omaha, Nebraska. Wow. Wow. Wow.

A couple of guys came close, though. To being born there? Yeah, I know. Thomas Dewey was born in Michigan. He's the one that the famous Chicago Daily Tribune, Dewey defeats Truman. Right. Yeah, because they had to print it early. Everybody remembers that. That was a big... I'm not saying remember. You've never seen that? No. Pull that up. It's...

It's a famous picture because the paper erroneously reported... The wrong presidential winner. What, he what? So there's Truman... That's Truman holding up the... What'd you say, erroneously? Erroneously. What is that? Wrong? Yeah. Okay. Erroneous. Yeah. So there's Truman holding up the sign that says Dewey defeats Truman when that did not happen. That's a famous picture. You never seen that? No. And then where would...

Why did they, they thought he was going to win? Or they thought he won? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then what, Truman just came in and won at the end or something? He just, it was a bit of an upset, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't count all the ballots. Hanging Chad. Mitt Romney was born in Michigan. Oh, wow. His dad was the governor. Yep. Wow. I just feel like you know everything about, yeah, the guy, were you born in Michigan? Yeah.

Who's a celebrity from Michigan you think of? Bob Seger. Hold on. Madonna? That's a good one. Madonna. Yep. That's a crazy one. Kid Rock. Madonna. Derek Jeter. You know what? It would have been Eminem, but Eminem, I don't know. I would have thought Detroit, but then I don't know. You don't always think. I don't think Detroit, Michigan. Detroit sometimes feels like it's its own thing. It's its own thing, yeah. In my head for someone, you know, I'm-

Bob Seger's the greatest Michigan. You know what? I might have said Tom Brady. Where's he from?

California, I believe, right? See, it's not wrong. But he played football in Michigan. Yeah. I didn't even think Madonna was from somewhere. Yeah. I thought she was European before I found out she was from Michigan. They just made her. She's got an accent sometimes. You're like, where are you from? Oh, wow. Yeah, you don't even think about her growing up. There was like two or three years where she had a British accent. Yeah. Where's Tom Cruise from? California, I would think. I think so. We'll never know.

Eminem, I mean, he is Michigan. He wasn't born in Michigan. Born in Missouri, right? Yeah. Really? Uh-huh. And how long did he live in Missouri? Not long, I guess. I think he was, at least until he was a teenager before he moved. Oh, he's like Southern? If you count Missouri, I think that's Midwest. I should have known this. I was just there in Syracuse, New York. That's where Tom Cruise is from. Syracuse, New York.

And I remember looking up who was from here, and that's a big one. That is a big one. Where's Tom Hanks from? California. A factory. Australia. Oakland, California. I believe he was... They made him in a factory. Oakland A's. Hanks is from... Yeah, he's from Concord, California. Wow. Was he like an usher for the A's when he was a kid? Tom Hanks? I've never heard that. That's pretty cool. I believe he worked for the A's in some capacity when he was a... He was in Apollo 13. Maybe. Is that what you're thinking about? Maybe. Maybe.

A league of their own. A league of their own. Some other people born in Michigan? Have you seen Apollo 13, by the way? Yeah, I think so a long time ago. What am I watching now? Brian and I watched it together. I went and watched, man, what was I watching? A few good men. I watched a few good men. You watched the whole thing? Yeah. I talked about that on this, right? We talked about it on the bus. Oh, I did a few good men, and it was great.

I did it in two nights and I broke it up with the new screen. I went and watched the new screen in between. Okay. So,

It's a little palate cleanser. Just tell you should watch. I did a half-fugue of men. You did a palate cleanser in the middle. Then I did New Screen. Then I went back and finished the other fugue. Fugue of Men is great. It was really good. Now I'm trying to think of an old... I kind of want to go to these old movies. You should do... What's the one that I was talking to you about for so long, Brian, with Richard Gere? A Fugue of... No, no.

Officer and a Gentleman. Officer and a Gentleman. That's one of my favorites all time. Yeah. See, that's what I mean. I think that's what I might go. It's so good. I get that. I'm in the mood for that. That is exactly the vibe of A Few Good Men. It's so good. Okay. I like it. I may watch it again tonight. Wow. It's so good. Yeah. Some other people born in Michigan. David Spade. Oh, wow. I thought you think Arizona with him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Vern Troyer.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Manny May. Burt Reynolds. Elizabeth Berkley. I don't know. Who's that? Jesse Spano. Elizabeth. Everybody feels rugged from Michigan. A lot of cold winters. What is her name? Elizabeth Berkley? Yeah. She's very rugged. Say it by the bell. Jesse Spano. No, I don't know. She's not rugged. I'm making that up. Oh. I just said it. I'm so excited. Yeah. I'm so excited. Doesn't it make sense, though, that she's from Michigan? Yeah.

I can see that. It does. You can see it. Michigan's got like – I meant with Burt Reynolds. Like Michigan's got like kind of a strong like person out. Like that – like, you know, she kind of came in to save a bell and you're like, she doesn't really fit in with everybody. She's kind of her own thing. And you're like, yeah, that's Michigan. Saved by the bell was like they don't – she didn't fit in. I'll say that about Screech.

But Screech, like... Screech was Saved by the Bell from the beginning. He was from the beginning. She came in late. Oh, she did? Yeah. The first couple of seasons was just Zack, Screech, Kelly, Slater. I don't even know if Slater... And there was another girl, right? I don't think Slater was in the early ones. I think Slater was. I don't think Kelly was. I think it was Zack, Screech, maybe Lisa. Yeah. And then there was another girl and another guy. Yeah, it was kind of like...

Girl with a leather jacket, that type of girl. I don't know if that's true. Yeah, I think so. The beginning, there was nobody even in the cast. They had one guy in it. Screech. It was basically Zack and Screech. Oh, man. Yeah. I can't find any evidence of this. Season one. Say by the way, season one cast, I think it was...

All right, there we go. Oh, jeez. That's a new one. Oh, dude. I'm bombing here. Yeah, look at Wikipedia. Is it not on Wikipedia or something? Yeah, what is that? The new class. What is that? Yeah, there's a new one. They did a spinoff of it? Yeah. Mr. Belding? I met Mr. Belding. Did you show them? Yeah. I think he does comedy. Is he a comedian or something? I don't know. I think I met Mr. Belding. Maybe it was Slater, but not Kelly or Belding.

I think it was all of them. She was added later. She was in... Okay. And she's from Michigan. Do Wikipedia and save on that. Yeah. All right, go ahead. Floyd Mayweather Jr., Jack White, Stevie Wonder, Serena Williams, Magic Johnson. Michigan State. Flint, Michigan. Had some water problems. I think we all know about that. Yeah.

They just, I mean, it's still kind of going on. I think a judge just approved a $600 million settlement for the victims.

Seems low. Yeah. That seems very low. It's been poisonous for years. Seems low. Our regular water? $626 million. There's still a few homes that the pipes still haven't been replaced. And it's not even fixed. Nine years. We'll give you $600 million. All right. Well, is it still good water? You're like, no. Yeah, yeah. They keep pushing back the deadline to get everything fixed. It's now August of 2023. They should just... Who's in charge of this? The...

Michigan government? I think a few people. Some of it, I think, has to do with the homeowners being suspicious and doesn't want people on their land. I don't know. I get that. That's what I read. Now you're on board with. Well, I'm on board with the homeowners being suspicious. Yeah. Oh, the government. Yeah, coming around, digging around. Yeah, what are you digging about? Yeah. What are you digging over there? Yeah. Some movie set in Michigan, 8 Mile. Oh, yeah. Simi Pro. I just watched that the other day.

That's great. Is that in Flint also? Yeah, it's in Flint. Tropics. Flint Tropics. Oh, yeah, that's the girl. So I'm talking about right there. But okay, so I do remember this girl. And she was only on the show for a little bit. Like one season. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know if she was the first. I don't know. I'm going to look that up, though. I remember because you would see, I didn't start season one, but I would see reruns and I'd be like, who are these people? Yeah. Yeah.

I think you were looking at... Maybe she was on the college years. No, no. She was in high school. That was... I remember this girl, but it was... I don't think this is the girl I'm thinking about either. Yeah, I think, yeah. This is an interesting story. In 1979, Saddam Hussein, Iraqi's president, donated a half million dollars to the Sacred Heart Chaldean Church in Detroit.

They had a Chaldean, I guess, sect of Iraqis, and they had come to the US and worked in Detroit for the car companies. And this huge Chaldean... We have the most Kurds in Nashville, Detroit has the most Chaldeans. So Saddam Hussein donated half a million dollars to help this church out. He was given a key to the city of Detroit from the mayor of Detroit. They all loved him.

And the church's pastor said he was very generous, a warm man. He just let too much power go to his head. So they've obviously backed off of that much later. When was that? 1979. So he was like, okay then. Yeah. Yeah, they say he was very pro-America then. And then about 11, 12 years later is when, you know.

He's got dark. We first went to war with him. That's when I was born. He didn't like that. Yeah. 79. You're already a working man. 79? Yeah. Can you believe? What did you think when you read in the paper that Saddam was over there? 79, I was second grade maybe.

First or second grade. Yeah. All right. That's probably a good place to wrap. Yeah. You think? Is there any other little last fun things? The world's largest wind vane is in... Weather vane is in Michigan. Wind vane. I was about to be... What's a weather vane? Yeah, I don't know what either of those are. It's that thing that...

One of these guys. It's always got something like that. Kind of blows with the wind. I think a wrong name for that. Can you see if you can find a picture of this one? It's in my... It's the thing that goes north, south, east, west, shows you which way the wind's blowing. Maybe Michigan. Yeah, that seems like a weird...

That name, you know. That's the one. Maybe not as a person. The world's largest one. Oh, you see a person there, yeah. Yeah, it's me. Oh, okay. It's big. It's not. It's as tall as like a tall house. Yeah. Maybe more than that. Yeah, it's a good size. I mean, I think. You can't see it from, you know, a couple hundred yards away, but it's pretty big. I think if you're world's largest, you always think, well, this is going to be really big. Well, it's because no one's even trying. Yeah, yeah. And it's.

I would tell you if you're driving around and you're near it, yeah, swing on by. I don't think we're taking its own trip. Yeah. Here's one last one. The name Kalamazoo has become a metanome. Do you know what a metanome is? Yeah. I don't. Oh, I don't know. I'd like to know. Kalamazoo. A word that sounds like a metanome? I don't know. I don't know what it is. I was hoping you would know.

What does it mean?

A word used in metonymity. All right. What's a word that would... That sounds like the government made that word, and that's the voice of the government? Metonymity. Well, what's the word? It means it's a metonymity. It's a figure of speech in which a concept is referred to by the name of something closely associated with that thing or concept. It's like calling... And the example they give here is like when you say the Pentagon, when you really mean all the U.S. military.

Well, in this case, when you- I don't even really wrap my head around that. I think this one's a better example. I think I'm okay not knowing the word. You've lived this long without using it. I don't think I need to really know. If you said, that guy's from Kalamazoo, you may not literally mean Kalamazoo. It may just mean exotic place.

Timbuktu to Kalamazoo means that they're just from some exotic place. So today in Kalamazoo, now they embrace it and they sell shirts with the phrase, yes, there really is a Kalamazoo. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's good. Well, Bob Seger maybe should have used Kalamazoo instead of Katmandu.

And then rep it stayed a little bit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He said, Catman do. Yeah, we're going to Kalamazoo. Was Catman do a made up? I don't know. It just seems similar. Yeah. Catman do. I think we did it. This week. Now, wait. Yeah, we don't know. What is this? When's this one coming out? No, this is next week, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, anyway, May 12th, 13th, I'll be in San Diego. My first time ever in San Diego. All right. At Mic Drop Comedy Club. Oh, it's going to be great, man. That's awesome. That's a great new club. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Thank you. Go there.

Tomorrow night, I'm in Napanee, Indiana, Amish country. If you're in northern Indiana, come on out and see me at the Round Barn Theater. And then the next big thing I have coming up, May 17th and 18th, I'm at the Irvine Improv and the Ontario Improv. I've never done any of those clubs. So come on out. Yeah, they're awesome. Well, I'm hoping by now that both of these shows are sold out. But I'll be May 13th at...

the Bijou Theater in Knoxville, Tennessee, filming a special. So I need you to come there so that it'll be full. I mean, but the tickets are selling pretty hot, so it may be sold out by now, but come there. It's going to be great. This weekend, I'm sure I'll be somewhere. I just forgot to look at where I'm at, but it'll be great too. Dustyslay.com.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know when this episode's coming out, so I don't know where I'm at. It's coming out the weekend. You're going to go to Michigan. All right, I'll be in Michigan. Kalamazoo. I think maybe Milwaukee in between. Ooh, be in Milwaukee, Detroit. I'll be up in the area where these people are listening. Yeah. Yeah, weather's going to be nice. It is going to be nice. They say summers in Michigan are the best. Oh, yeah, especially in the upper part. Winters, awful. And this is spring, so it could still be tough. It could still be tough. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But all right, we're going to go to Michigan.

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