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241: #241 Sandwiches featuring Ben Roethlisberger

2025/2/26
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Nate Bargetzi: 本期节目我们很荣幸邀请到前匹兹堡钢人队四分卫Ben Roethlisberger,我们聊到了他的职业生涯、在WWE的经历、在电影《黑暗骑士崛起》中的客串以及对三明治的看法。我们还讨论了什么是三明治,热狗和墨西哥卷饼哪个先出现等问题。 Brian Bates: 我主要负责节目中关于Ben Roethlisberger职业生涯和一些幕后故事的讨论,例如他在超级碗中的精彩表现,以及他如何看待自己职业生涯中的一些关键时刻。我还参与了关于三明治的讨论,并分享了我对热狗和墨西哥卷饼起源的看法。 Dusty Slay: 我在节目中主要负责一些轻松幽默的环节,例如对Ben Roethlisberger高中照片的讨论,以及对一些体育和娱乐话题的看法。我还参与了对三明治定义的讨论,并分享了我对热狗、墨西哥卷饼和三明治之间关系的独特见解。 Ben Roethlisberger: 我分享了我作为四分卫的职业生涯经历,包括高中时期被低估的经历,以及在超级碗中的一些关键时刻。我还谈到了我在WWE主持RAW节目的经历,以及在电影《黑暗骑士崛起》中的客串。关于三明治,我认为热狗不是三明治,它是一种独立的食物。我也谈到了以我名字命名的三明治,以及我对三明治定义的一些看法。

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Hello, folks, and hey, Bear. Welcome to the Nate Land Podcast. I'm Nate Bargetzi, Brian Bates, Dusty Slay. Filling in.

For Aaron Webber, what Aaron Webber thinks he looks like, Ben Roethlisberger. All right. Thanks for having me. Yeah, that's pretty good. Aaron, you've seen Aaron online. He's like you if it's squished a little bit. And he wears a lot of hoodies. That's what I was told to do this for. Yeah. Could that be your high school picture, that top right one? That looks like elementary school, doesn't it?

I always think it does. That's a high school picture? Yeah, that's his senior year. I'm not saying we all look good over there, but I'm saying. Can you imagine? Look at Dusty. Why are y'all in tuxes? But you had to do that? Yeah, for a picture. What did y'all do? You didn't do anything?

Whatever you wanted to wear. What'd you do? Like no shirt? Your school? Yeah. Dustin Dickerson said the same thing. They'd never heard of tuxes for high school photos. Oh, that's. Yeah. We had two. We had the regular clothes picture and then the tux picture. Were you guys like all boys school?

No, no. No. My school would call Donaldson Tuxedos, and it was sponsored by Donaldson, so we had to wear them. No. I thought everybody wore tuxes too for the picture, but yeah. You don't have any good, like a picture of you in Sunday clothes? Yeah, probably like confirmation or something at church. Confirmation that you never wore tuxedos.

Where did you grow up to go to? Where'd you go to high school? Finley High School, Finley, Ohio. Big school. But it was just a public school that we didn't. Yes, he had a public school too in Alabama and we were, we were tuxing it up. I think that's the even more surprising part that it was, I didn't think it was Alabama. Like I would expect that. And I don't mean this in any disrespect. Like I would expect tuxedo t-shirts.

In Tennessee. Yeah. Y'all didn't even wear no highers. You go, well, Dusty's looks like he's from Panama City. And I had... I mean, I've been to Panama City quite a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean... Yours does look like... That's not a strap. Like, if you went to Panama City, Pensacola High. Yeah. That's... But, yeah, it's... How big was your school? It was big. I graduated, like, 600, 700. And you were...

Second string quarterback? I was until my senior year. Really? Oh, really? Yeah. Who was the? The coach's son. Oh. Yeah. So yeah, I was. I was the backup. Who'd he go on to play for? Look at that. We have the footage. He actually went to Denison High School and played wide receiver. Interesting, huh? And do you think his career panned out better?

I think he went into like the – Brian here is a bigger fan of him. Yeah, he went on – I think he might be a pastor now, so I can't really talk. Yeah, I am a bigger fan. That's a good thing. Yeah. But just as quarterbacks, though, you crushed it. Yeah. I think I did okay. What position did you play before quarterback? Wide receiver. So that's the unique thing. So he was a quarterback. He was a year older than me.

So he played quarterback my junior year. I played receiver. And then I went to play quarterback my senior year, and he went to college to play receiver. So more of a coaching issue, I would say. Yeah. Where's our soundbite? When –

You played receiver. Like, were you going to go play receiver at a college? No. So when I – because I only played quarterback my senior year, when I started getting looks, people were wanting me to maybe play tight end because I was – in those videos right there, I was 6'5".

185 pounds. Yeah. So I was tall and real skinny. Yeah. And when you only play one year, people didn't know what to do. But I broke all kinds of like state records and stuff my last year. Yeah. As you see, we threw the ball a lot. So like Ohio State wanted me to be a tight end. I'm like, I have no interest in playing tight end. Yeah. So...

Yeah, I wasn't going to play receiver. I was not fast. Still not fast. How long did the coach coach after that season? Like two years. I got to think that everybody else was like, everybody was like, whoa, this guy was on the bench the whole time? Your son was playing? That is so funny to think about. Yeah. That they go, he goes, what's wrong? They go, I don't know. You know the kid that won it.

All the Super Bowls? Yeah, he was there the whole time. Yeah. You didn't see that? He goes, I never saw a gun. He goes, I never saw it. He was only 6'5", 240 when he was a sophomore. He goes, you didn't think to try me because I didn't, you know, I was like, he was lanky, tall. I was like, you know. Yeah, he,

I was like, this kid's going to dream of going. He thinks he can't get into Denison. No, I couldn't do that. He swore it made me a better quarterback because I could see both sides of the – catching the ball and throwing it. But that was just his excuse. I agree. I'm actually back on his side now. And that is very funny, though, the thing to go. At some point, you have to have a conversation. Where are you at? Is it the first Super Bowl where someone just looks to him and goes –

You had him all four years? All four years. That's very management talk, though. Oh, it made you a better player. That's very management-type talk. Where they're like, it was my idea all along. You would have never been that good your senior year had it not been. Was he a coach there way before then, forever? No, he was relatively new there. Maybe my eighth grade year or freshman year was his first year coach.

You got to know how the ball looks coming in to be able to throw it. That's so funny, dude. That's so funny that he came in just to... That's what my coach said to me. I want you to know what it looks like being off the field before we let you on. You'd be off for a while. Were you starting as a freshman? No, I played freshman football, and I actually only held for extra points. Really? I love it. This is, I feel...

Yeah, this is where the chip on your shoulder would come. You're just sitting there going, were you thinking, you're like, all right, I at least should be a long snapper. That's what you were. Well, no, I just wanted to play. And so the first four games of the season, I just held extra points. But everyone knew I could kind of throw. And the guy that was playing quarterback,

It was not the coach's son. He was the same grade as me. He was a great athlete. We were two and two through four games, and they were like, you know, we should try that guy at wide receiver and put Ben at quarterback. And we won the last six games.

In freshman. In freshman football, which obviously it's freshman football. And then my 10th grade year, our class was like everyone knew it was going to be a good class, so everyone played JV. And we went like 10-0. We destroyed everybody because I was the quarterback. Not because I was the quarterback, but it helped. And then my junior year, it was like, you're not playing varsity. I'm like, let me play receiver. Let me do something.

Yeah, you're huge, and they're like, how about you hold the ball at kickoff? I think if I would have played quarterback for two years, I would have had a chance to go to Vandy. There we go. I was going to say. That would have been the national championship. We had Jay Cutler, so we're fine. We had Jay Cutler also on this podcast. So you are the, if I had to rank best quarterback, second to Jay. So obviously Jay's number one. You're two. I agree. Of where our ranked quarterback. And I'm talking about just Cutler's Miami years.

He had a better arm than me for sure. Yeah. How far can you throw a football? Oh, yeah. You know, in my prime over the mountain. Yes.

Yes. I need a number, though. That's what I'm talking about. That's what he just goes up and asks. That's a weaker. He asks Jay Cutler, is it hard to get asked by a guy in his mid-50s, how far can you throw a football? Is it uncomfortable? Or have you gotten used to it? Yeah, it's not a big deal. Now you've gotten used to it. There's a lot of us out there. Yeah. He's going to have you sign multiple things before you leave here. Yeah. Yeah, I brought you something. He goes, I watched last week's podcast.

you ranked your top snacks there you go number one snack is that a double stuffed yes it's not thank you yeah you want the regular just that's nothing special that will be gone before i get in the car if you could sign that yeah if you could if you don't mind me videoing you eating that and then uh sign that wrapper i'd appreciate it i would appreciate you getting me an oreo sponsorship name all right well we'll work on that thank you you should be an oreo sponsor uh

So there was a video of you throwing from your knees, right? For like 65 yards or something. Yeah, that was probably, so that would have been like a, like a pro day. Like when you're preparing for the draft, they want you to do all kinds of weird things. How far can you throw on one leg? How far can you throw on your knees? How far can you throw running left, right, forward, back. And so,

So, yeah, that was a big one. We had a – in college, I threw a 71-yard Hail Mary to win the game. But I think my max probably would have been like mid to high 70s. Like if I was – not in a game because you don't have time to get balled up. Yeah, I mean, is that as far as anybody's going to throw? Like, I mean, who much – Jay Culler said he could throw 75 in his prime. That's it? I thought he could go 80. No. Jay had a big arm. Yeah, Jay had a big arm. Byron Lefwich, didn't he have a big arm? Yeah. Big arm. Can anybody throw 100 or no? No.

Oh, I'm sure some guys probably think they can. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think I can. Who throws the farthest? I mean, if we're asking all that. I mean, who throws the farthest? Who's the... Who is that? Josh Allen, though? Yeah. Who's that? Like, ever. Yeah. Is it Dan Marino or something? No. Elway is considered the guy that had the best pro day that could throw. They used to joke that he could throw a ball through a car wash, it wouldn't get wet. Oh.

So, I mean, he just had a rocket of an arm. Yeah, yeah. Big guy, baseball player, almost played for the Yankees. So, if I were to say, like, who's a guy – like, Marino was a pure passer, but in terms of just big arms, Elway would be the guy that I think most guys would probably go to right away. Is there – but would it be, like, the farthest arm could be, like, a Byron left-witch or, like, someone that no one really thinks of? It's just –

What's the kid from LSU? Joe Marcus Russell. It was a kid like that that you're like, this guy could throw it 100, but he just... Yeah, there probably is someone. Michael Vick had a huge arm. Those lefties have that tight spiral, and it just kind of goes forever. But yeah, there's someone out there that you wouldn't think of in terms of like a...

you know, a starting quarterback that's going to have a huge arm. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. You threw one of the, maybe the greatest pass in Super Bowl history to win the game. It's Antonio Holmes. Now Nate says he was not in bounds, but I disagree. He says. I've always, yeah, that's what I've always said. He's probably, he said he really only won one Super Bowl, but. I go, I guess he won two. Yeah. So we're showing the play. Yeah, he is in bounds. That's unbelievable. Yeah.

Thank you. It was a great catch and probably the second best play in that Super Bowl. Guy should have intercepted it, but he got turned around. Oh, yeah, that's two feet. And so in the pros, you need the two. It's not college where you have to have one. Yeah. Okay, I wasn't sure if you were aware of the rules. Because I don't know the basic rules. I guess, which team were you on, Ben? What color were your jerseys? Are you the yellow team? Yeah.

Yeah. James Harrison makes a play in that Super Bowl. The interception goes 99 yards, whatever, which will go down. I was actually just with him not long ago, and I said, James, do you realize if you get tackled on the one-yard line and don't score, nobody that play goes from being one of the greatest plays in all of Super Bowl history to just a good play. Good hustle by Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah, the guy who tackled. Yeah. Larry Fitzgerald.

Larry asked Larry what it was like to make that play. And he goes, have you ever jumped or tried to do anything with a refrigerator? He goes, I like jumped on a refrigerator and that's what I was trying to get to the ground. Yeah, that's funny. I bet he too, because didn't he get blocked too? Like he was running out of bounds. He ran into his own team. Yeah. And so if he doesn't run into guys and has to make it around, he probably, James swears, but of course James thinks he can do everything.

He swears that even if Larry wouldn't have ran into somebody, he would have made the tackle. Or he wouldn't have made the tackle. He goes, no, he wasn't going to get me. He was not tackling me. I'm like, James, be honest. He would have had you. No, I had too much momentum. I'm too big. I'm too strong. You're right. And I don't argue with James because he's a

an animal. Yeah. His nickname is Debo. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I remember watching this. If he gives the ball to somebody fast, it happens so much quicker. What was the flag on the play? And he's like, get out of the way.

But see, look at Larry down here. So he runs into an intro roll. Yeah. And then he jumps on his back and – And even right there pushed him like that kind of tackle there, slide. It just – Larry never got a straight up angle on it. Right. But I mean you think – because I remember this happening in your –

I mean, it's – when you go in the locker room, is it – it's just like – you're like, what happened? What just happened? Because they're going to score. Yeah. So he's laying there on the ground and he tells the story. Coach Tomlin comes over like, James, are you okay? He goes, I'm tired, boss. I'm tired, boss. I'm tired, boss. Just laying there like on dust doorstep. He can't breathe. But yeah, I mean, a huge play. They go from – I mean, even if they score three points –

It's a tie game. Yeah. Instead, we, you know, it's huge. You're up big. Yeah. He was supposed to rush too, and he didn't. He chose not to, so he did the wrong thing.

But again, when he's doing that, are you like, give it to someone else? Yes. Get rid of the ball, James. Stop it. Yeah. Because you're on the side and you're like, oh my goodness, he might. Because at first you're just happy he intercepts it, right? Yeah. And then you're like, oh my goodness, like he might score. But look at Larry Jones. He was like a refrigerator right there. Man. Crazy. Yeah. So, you know, when they go this, I mean, when they get like halftime adjustments, right?

Sometimes you see a team come out and they're terrible, and they come back and you're like, well, what was the halftime adjustment? Did it get worse? Different players? It's so crazy. You see it in college a lot where you can see, say, Georgia is playing Ball State and they're only up by four or something crazy. Then they go out in the halftime and then they're up by 80. It's like, what is happening at these halftime adjustments? Yeah.

Was that a knock on the Mac, Ball State? Oh, no. That's your – I should have said Miami. I went to Miami. Ohio. That's right. The real Miami. The real Miami. Do you want to tell everybody why it's the real Miami? He told me the other day. Did you know it's the first Miami? I did not know that. Apparently – The real Miami. What's Miami? Is it like Stanford? Does it mean something?

Like the name Miami? Does it mean something? That's the college you went to. No, no, no. I mean, like for them to make a second one. Because the town's not Miami, right? It's Oxford. Yeah. It's named after the Miami Indian tribe. Okay. Was the original. Okay. But they used to be the Red Skins, and then they changed to the Red Hawks when I was there. But the reason it's the real Miami is why, Nate? Because it was the first, it was there before Florida. Yeah.

was even a state. We were a school before Florida was a state. But were the... Enough said. Were the Miami tribe in where Florida was at? No, they were where Miami of Ohio was in Oxford. So what... It's not like they made them all go up to Ohio. But like the Seminoles would have been in Florida, right? That tribe? The Hurricanes. The Hurricane tribe. Yeah. Boy, this is off the rails quick. Well, you know, there's...

But the Seminole tribe would have been in Florida is what I mean. Yes. And I think we, I hope we realize that, and I'm not, I don't mean this in a disrespectful way. There are multiple Indian tribes around the country. Well, yes. But I'm saying though, why would you- I agree to disagree, but go ahead. Why would you end up with a Miami in Florida is my point. When you already, you have the Seminoles there, you had Creek Indians, you had Cherokee,-

Great question for someone like a governor. A computer governor. That's what he called it. Well, we're talking about real Miami versus the – and I just wonder. I think these are the questions that governors field too. The governor's office, hey, were there Indians down there with you guys? That's what he goes. Hold on. I got to deal with that call.

Imagine a governor having to really, you get it? All right. Well, the Miami River, which was named after the Miami people who lived nearby. All right. That makes sense. So still confusing. This is AI clearing it up for us. Oh, yeah. This is the AI overview.

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Now, a lot of people think you only play for one team, the Steelers. But I know that you actually play for the Gotham... Oh, the Gotham City... I forgot their name. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

The Dark Knight Rises. Gotham. I don't remember their name. Yeah, I don't remember what their team name was. Yeah, that was crazy that they made the stadium blow up right after that. Yeah. Yeah. Was that fun? It was cool. Were you on the stadium there or was it green screen? No, we were at the stadium. They had the fans in there. They had the fans like that? That's real fans? Mm-hmm. Oh, really? Yeah, it was just behind us. Yeah. But then they obviously, when they showed the whole stadium, it wasn't. But yeah, there was a bunch of fans in there. And so...

And so you saw Bane come out and all that? Yeah, that's what I was about to ask. No, so they had us, because this was actually during training camp. And so the guy that, and actually, if that was a clip, as it scrolls, you see Coach Cowhery, you see a bunch of the people there. And the guy that, what's the best way to say it, owns the studio that did the movie, he's also an owner of the Steelers. Okay. And so he was like, hey, we're going to do this clip in Heinz Field.

some of the guys come. And so there were a handful of the guys that got to get out of, not out of practice, but during that time we jumped on and went into the stadium. So we were only there for maybe an hour. Yeah. And then Heinz Ward actually stayed because he catches a kickoff. Yeah. And so he stayed because he did a little bit more, but we were just there for this, the national anthem and hearing this kid, the person sing. So we were there for an hour, but we didn't get to see the stadium actually blow up. I, yeah, I always loved Heinz Ward and that's him right there with the jacket on.

That's pretty unborn. You know, that's actually the GM of the Steelers right now. Oh, really? Oh, wow. How about that? Omar Khan. Yeah. I did always love Heinz Ward. Yeah. He's at Georgia. I loved him at Georgia. When he went to Pittsburgh, I just was always a big, big fan. Good player. Yeah. All right.

We just kind of dived into this. I know. Well, we didn't talk about our weekend. Yeah. Well, we can just do it. We don't have to talk about our weekend. But Dusty got an accolade, though. Oh, yes. Let's do – well, I think we would talk about our weekend. We could do it, I'm saying, after. Okay. All right. Like, we'll just do it after. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. So let's get into the topic. I'm sorry I didn't get to hear about your weekend. That's okay. I mean, you can just, you know, you can listen to the podcast. Well, I want to say one more thing, though, about Ben, because I did all this research. You don't need to keep talking about me. We don't got to get into this. You don't need to keep talking about me. But if you want to, you can. Before we get into the serious subject of sandwiches. This is stuff that Ben sent in. Make sure Brian hits this. All right.

This is more for Dusty because, you know, Dusty thinks NFL football is rigged, but he loves professional wrestling. So, Dusty, look at this. Look at Ben. Oh, gosh. Oh, wow. That's what I'm talking about. A long time ago. Yeah. You hosted Monday Night Raw? Yes. They asked me if I would do it because I became friendly with Triple H. Real sport with a real country musician shirt on. And I said, the only way I'm going to do it is if I can bring my boys with me. And so I had all my linemen come.

And they got to come out there. It was pretty fun. I mean, they were just, it was, look at them. They had to bring them all out. Yeah, I think. Big show's pretty out of shape there. Look at those baggy jeans. Boy, that's how long ago that was. That was how long ago, yeah, yeah. That tells you how long ago that is. Oh, yeah, got them all out there.

I mean, how is the big show, right? That's the name? Yeah, the big show. I mean, how big is this thing? Because y'all are all so big. He's very big. He's very big. He's the very big show. Anybody get chokeslammed? No, I don't. Gosh, it's so long. I don't even remember what happened. So in this right here, just because I watched it last night, he's...

saying that he could run through the offensive line to get to you okay so you guys challenge him to see if he could get that's i think that's what chris jericho is saying right there and there he is lining up yeah but uh and then can you just say what happens yeah well you're back and it's like we're having to watch the whole beginning of wwe like well he chickens out oh he got scared do you think i know you don't want to say you think he could though

No, not all of them. But if he... Technique will outdo size. Yeah. But did you ever... Did you have guys... Did anybody... Linemen were as big as him? Or is that like too big almost? Yeah, he's too big. Yeah. Yeah. Then we had some help come out and... BX. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, how fun. This was in Pittsburgh? No. Oh, man. No, it was in Pennsylvania. I forget exactly where it was, so we all went there for the day. It was pretty fun. They enjoyed the heck out of it. I think Brian wants to watch the rest of the episode. If you guys don't mind. We'll see what happens. If you don't mind, just. I'm going to chill out. Yeah, we're going to stop talking and let Brian finish watching. Well, y'all can keep talking. I just want to watch and see what happens. WWF.

Because he still only refers to it as that. That's how it should be. That's how it should be. It's pretty bad that they lost it to the Wildlife Federation or whatever. I thought it was... It's like, you can't... Let's do a wrestling match about it. But what if it was against a grizzly bear? Well, let's give it a try. Yeah. All right. Okay, well, that derailed. Let's see what we got. It's an eight-minute clip. You just...

Eight minutes and 20 seconds. I know, I know. All right, so this week's topic is sandwiches. Oh, yeah. And I picked it for a few reasons. One, because we like serious topics. And two, because Ben has a couple of sandwiches named after him. Do you know the sandwiches? Well, one's called a Roethlisberger. Yeah. Is that a hamburger? It's not. I've only ever had it. It should be. You would think it would be. You would think it would be. If this is the clip with Chris Berman...

It's the only time I've ever eaten this sandwich.

Um, Pepe's made a sandwich and, um, they kind of just did it. Not, I had nothing to do with it. Like they just did it on their own. So it has, it actually is my name, but I don't, I got nothing. You don't get like a dime. No. Um, and so they did this whole thing. I think Jerome eats the whole thing. The boss. Um, so yeah, it's, it's no, it's like a steak. It's got lettuce, cheese. I don't even know. Again, I've, I've, I've eaten it one time. There you go. Look at it. No. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's unbelievable. It's got,

It's got scrambled eggs because you like to scramble. There you go, yes. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's so good. Yeah. Ridiculous. Yeah. I like to think this is the first they've ever heard you say, I didn't get anything for this. Yeah. They might have given something to you. What if they go, well, we've been paying. Yeah. Something. Yeah. There's a guy who claims he works for you. Yeah. There's some guy that is rolling in some money right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

All right, so then I found one in your hometown, Tony's. Oh, yeah. Great barbecue. We got a 30-minute video. Ben, do you mind watching this? It's a little short doc. I do my research, okay? Oh, yeah, the Big Ben Burger. Again, it seems like it would just be the Roethlisberger, but yeah. That makes more sense. If it's going to be a hamburger...

Because this, they could be like, if they start to not like you, it could be like, no, this is the clock in London burger. Just keep it going, right. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah. It's good, though. Did your feelings get hurt when you were called Big Ben by the whole state of Pennsylvania? Did my feelings get hurt? You know, everybody's kind of calling you fat. The whole state of Pennsylvania. Yeah.

Is that where it started or was it in college? It started in college. So where you're from. Yeah. So for your family, it started with your family. When he was born. You were born. Yeah. No, that Hail Mary I told you about against Akron, the 71 or 2-yard play was called Big Ben because everyone just goes deep, right? And we scored and won the game. And so they learned that that was what the play was called. So it's like Big Ben strikes again or something. Yeah. Something ridiculous.

Did you get that started? Yeah. You go, what a play. Yeah, it's crazy. That play's called Big Ben. Please call me that from now on. You guys would be crazy. What is Michael Scott in the office when he tries to give a nickname? Is it him? What? I'm sure. Yeah.

When he tries to give a nickname, Seinfeld too. George tries to give the nickname of Coco. Oh, his was T-Bone. T-Bone. His was T-Bone. Yeah. He wants to be called T-Bone. They call him Coco the monkey. And then I thought Michael Scott in the office also had a. Where he wanted to be a nickname? He wanted to be. He was like one of the people. He kept saying the name to try to get people to call him. He was Prison Mike, but that's not what you're thinking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

All right, so sandwiches. Primanti's is a pretty hot, hot sandwich shop right there in Pittsburgh. It's great. Yeah. I feel like it's franchised out now, and there's some locations that are okay, but I went to, the first time I had it, it had the fries on the sandwich. Coleslaw. Yeah, big fan. Big fan. I get no coleslaw. I love a sandwich. I'm not a big coleslaw guy, and I think I would like it. I like all kinds of cabbage. But I think it makes me nervous, because I like mayonnaise. Yeah. Yeah.

So you don't like the healthy, like the lettuce, the cabbage? Yeah. What about sauerkraut? You know what? You like sauerkraut? I've had it. I wouldn't. I would rather not have it. But I've had it. And I don't think I mind it, but I'd prefer not to have it. If it came on it and you just surprised me and that's sauerkraut, I could get it done. Yeah. But I'd prefer if you didn't put it on there. Mm-hmm.

What's your favorite sandwich, Des? I like, you know, I like Reuben's. I like pastrami. I like corned beef. I like that kind of meat. And I like coleslaw on the sandwich or sauerkraut. I want to put my own sauce on there, but I like those. I like a French dip. Yeah. I love sandwiches. I like sandwiches too. Fresno burger? Yeah.

Well, you know, I said that last week. I don't know if you were here when I did that, but I went to Fresno. I did a show, and I told them that when I was growing up at Hardee's, we used to have a Fresno burger. And I was like, have you guys ever heard of it? And nobody, and I kept talking about it over and all throughout the show. The next place I went, I kept talking about it. And then I talked about it on this podcast. Turns out it's a Frisco burger. Yeah.

He's been chastising Fresno. You people don't know it? Yeah. It was a Frisco burger. Thousands of people I've talked to this Fresno burger about. It was a Frisco burger. Yeah. I do remember that. Yeah.

So there's a social media debate over what exactly is a sandwich. Mainly, is a hot dog a sandwich? Ben, do you care to chime in on this? I do not believe it is. You do not believe it is? Yeah. I think it's got to be sideways. It's got to be bread, meat, bread to be a sandwich. A hot dog is its own thing. It's like Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper is its own thing. It's delightful. Yeah. But Dr. Pepper is like, you know, they're not Coke. They're not Pepsi. But that would be soda. Yeah.

sandwich and soda. I know, but I'm saying you got to look at like, hot dog is looked at like that as far as the world that it's in. It's its own...

It's doing its own thing. I agree. It's not like a part of the... What makes a sandwich a sandwich? You said bread. I feel like the bread's got to be separate from each other. Yeah. Okay. And then it's got to be a stack. You know, a hot dog is like a... It's a bun. It's a bread that you open up and then you drop meat in there. Yeah. Yeah, you don't eat it. So the bread has to be cut like it's two slices of bread. Yeah, I mean... But what about a sub? I feel like... Yeah. That could, you know, but I mean, I don't know. I think... What about a Roethlisberger? Yeah.

What about, is it a hot dog's closer to a taco than it is a sandwich? That's true. I got that here too. That's true. Is that what people think? There's been a couple of court cases about this. What? One of them was in 2006 in Boston. A restaurant sold burritos, and the shopping center had a no-compete clause in its lease prohibiting other sandwich shops.

And that, so they were like, no, we're selling burritos. And in 2006, they went to court and they ruled that a sandwich has to be at least two slices of bread. And that the court finds the term sandwich is not commonly understood to include burritos, tacos, quesadilla. I love that case. I love that that went to court.

Had to be settled that way and that the taco place came out ahead. That's what the government should be working on is that kind of stuff. But then there was another one, 2022 in Fort Wayne, Indiana, very similar taco restaurant. They complained and they're like, no, tacos and burritos are Mexican style sandwiches. And the judge agreed with them.

So it depends on the judge. Sometimes it can be a sandwich. Sometimes it can't. Do judges take these cases just like they don't have anything to do? Like, do they just go... Like lawyers? Almost like they would just throw it in to go, you know...

Your day is probably like a lot. So whoever books the judges, because someone book it probably for them, tells them, so whoever books it goes, let's throw a couple. Yeah. His agent. Yeah, like his agent goes, let's throw some hot sandwich stuff in there. Because it can't just all be like murder, murder, murder. Yeah, I like to think he has a lot of them. And it's like, all right, murder case solved. Next up are taco sandwiches. He's like, whoo! He gets excited. He's like, whoo!

Let's have some fun. He's prepared. He's like, all right. He goes, I can't wait. He's there early. Because, I mean, yeah, otherwise it's like, oh, my property. I told him to get off my property. It's a lot of property stuff. That's my kind of place. Would any of you put tacos or burritos in a sandwich? I never went in there. No, no. Okay. I was making sure. No. No. Okay. It's too thin of bread. It's still kind of bread, but it's too thin. Well, it's their own thing. It's flour. It's flour.

Or it's corn. Or corn. Could be corn. If it's corn, definitely not a sandwich. Yeah.

So the USDA- I guess it could be cornbread. Woo. It is now. Woo. Well, you can make- You can make a cornbread sandwich. Yeah. Some roast beef on there. I like the idea that a hot dog is a taco. It's American taco. What if that's it? I like a piece of cornbread, some roast beef, gravy, cranberry sauce, another piece of cornbread. Wow. Is a hot dog around before- I'd like to see it. Tacos. Was it invented before tacos? I don't know. I'm going to guess no. I would say no. Really? Really?

I don't know when the hot dog was invented, but... It's been around longer than Taco Bell, but... If he pulled those away, we could find that out quickly. It's hard. We don't have the right person at the computer. I can't do everything around here. He's still on Primanti Brothers' website. Is a calzone a sandwich? It's bread with meat inside. Good question. I would say no. I would say it's his own entity, too. I would say no, yeah. I'm just asking. I'm not the expert, but I would say no.

Now, if it were pizza, and then you stack two pieces of pizza on top of each other. Which is what a calzone is. But a calzone is folded. So if you took a big slice of New York, isn't that how you're supposed to eat pizza? Are you supposed to take a big piece and fold it? People say that.

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Nice. Lost my computer privileges again. What was I doing? I'm going to see. There's your answer right there. I know. I like that I can. I've never had a computer. When was a hot dog invented? You didn't take the typing class. In the 1800s.

Late 15th century. Wow. Though the exact time and place is debated. Oh, Frankfurt. Yeah, that makes sense. That's not as fun of an answer as I was hoping. Or Vienna. Yeah, they all make sense now. Vienna, Frankfurt. Took a little while until we got a hold of it. Yeah, yeah. How can we do this a little faster? Yeah, yeah. I think I wish there was an internet that would only be like, I just want to know America stuff.

Do you think it was going to give you a different answer if you typed it? No. I just think they should have an internet that you go, go back to as far as America. Sometimes don't you want to just say, when did America invent the hot dog? Right, right. You suck the fun out of it when you're like, Frankfurt. You're like, you know what I mean, though. Now we know why it's called a Frank. I want you to be like Cincinnati. And you're like, all right. Yeah. Yeah.

When was the hot dog introduced to America? To the Indians. I don't know that you can't know. To the, oh, when was it introduced to the US? AI? Oh, 1860s. See? That's what I mean. By the Germans. But that's what you want to know is like, yeah. So if I knew that, the Germans came over.

Can you imagine a time when we wouldn't know that they were eating hot? I mean, they were invented in the 16th century. That's like 2,000 years. 15th century. 200 years before we got a hold of it. Yeah. Even still.

200 years before. Nowadays, we'd know right away. Somebody in Germany would be on the internet with their hot dog. Can you imagine seeing a hot dog for the first time? Say it's 1865. You and your girl are out strolling this town.

Back then you would get mad at her for liking hot dogs, I think. Oh, you're into that, huh? Yes. It's too messy. Yeah. It's too messy. I'll tell you what, we really took over the hot dog though. Yeah, we did. As a food. Yeah. I mean, it came from Europe, but it's, no one associates it with Europe anymore. I don't think. Bratwurst maybe. Yeah. But not a hot dog. Yeah. We really. I wonder how long the original hot dog was. Was it the original foot long? Uh,

It doesn't say. I don't know if that's as fun to look up, Ben. So, maybe. True. It became an American baseball snack and a staple at barbecue and Fourth of July celebrations. 2000. On the Fourth of July. 2000, yeah. Well, I don't know what a century is. I don't know. Yeah.

The sandwich. Is it one guy? Because it says... Doesn't 16,000 feel like 2,000 years ago, though? Yeah. I mean, 1,600. 1,600. Listen, timelines are not my thing, guys. We don't even know what century it is, really. That's why you guys wore tuxedos. Yeah. That's why. We still got them on. Always underneath. Always underneath. We got a tuxedo. Just in case. Just...

The internet we had only looked up our town's local history. And so we went by that. 1860, but another story claims Charles Feltman was a German butcher.

in 1871 served the sausages with milk rolls from a stand on Coney Island so other people say it was this guy and I bet the other people means it was Charles Feltman he's the one that said because everybody else is like nah it's another way and he goes nah but have you heard about that Charles Feltman what's your name Charles Feltman

All right. All right. So the FDA and the USDA says a sandwich definition is at least 35% cooked meat, no more than 50% bread for closed sandwiches, and at least 50% cooked meat for open sandwiches. Hold on, let me tell you another little fun fact.

Look at the question. Is human DNA found in hot dogs? AI says yes. He goes, but don't worry about it. It's just skin and hair and fingernails from other people. That's brutal, dude. I'm going to ruin hot dogs for you. I love hot dogs. I didn't want to read it because I like hot dogs. You got to eat the Hebrew nationals. That's the only way. The kosher hot dogs, that's the only way. Yeah.

don't do these ballpark Franks. They got a little fingernail in it. Yeah. You go, don't worry about it. He goes, grow up. That's what they say as you swallow someone else's fingernail from Germany. Grow up. The sandwich is named after John Manitou, Managu, the fourth Earl of Sandwich. I'm not going to work here anymore. I'm not going to work here anymore. The fourth Earl of Sandwich. He was a

British guy. Legend has it he ordered, it was called Wart Sandwich, and during long sessions of card games at gambling houses, he would order his valet to bring him roast beef between two pieces of bread because it allowed him to continue gambling while eating without the need for a fork and didn't get his cards greasy. That's a thick bread. So he invented this sandwich? Yeah. Like the whole idea of a sandwich. Meat between two pieces of bread. When was that?

1,500 probably. Yeah. 15,000 years ago. 15,000? Yeah. No one knows. 15,000 years ago, guys. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. How does that get around? Like you go just add a card game. Yeah. And then it was popularized and then it just took off. It just took off. Because that's like Seinfeld when they're eating the Snickers with their three musketeers with a fork and knife. Like it's like when he probably first tried it, they're like, what are you doing?

And I bet everybody's like, yeah, do we all eat like that? And then he goes, because I bet people are putting stuff on bread. Yeah, I would say they were probably doing that before people were using utensils. But did we have sliced bread? I would think you would be able to cut it up, you know, at home. Yeah. Well, he got his valet to do it. It's a little fire truck. Yeah. So you didn't have sliced bread, but you could slice it.

Yeah, that would be like someone... When bread was invented and someone's like, I invented sliced bread. You're like, dude, we've been cutting bread forever. Right. You just are calling it sliced. Yeah. Now you're just doing it for other people. Yeah. But sliced bread was invented. You were...

Wasn't it like in the early 1900s? It was reasonable. Those are the kind of ideas that you're like, oh man, I've been doing this. I should have just packaged this. Yeah. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I bet the sliced bread guy got no money for it though. No. I mean, unless he invented a machine. Yeah. Well, didn't he? Even then, it was probably stolen from him. Whoever has the machine that says this guy invented the machine, he probably stole it from a guy.

Yeah, isn't there a saying, someone told me that there's a saying like that in business. No real engineers get credit. You don't want to be first, you want to be second. Learn from their mistakes and then do it better? Yeah. I thought I just heard that. That's what they say. The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Mm-hmm. Right? Because the first one dies. Yeah, but they're eating two different things. One's eating the worm and one's eating cheese. So I assume the cheese is better. The other one's like, well, I didn't even know there was cheese. Right. Well, the first one- Is that the point? The first one comes and takes the risk.

And gets caught. By a trap. Left on the track. Oh, the early bird. It's two different. It's two different sayings. Yeah. So the early bird. Oh, you're saying it from the worm's perspective. It goes.

I never thought about it from, but the worm should have a perspective. I think the second mouse gets the cheese is more like the lazy man's thing where it's like people will say, oh, the early bird gets the worm. And you're like, yeah, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Yeah. So you're saying don't rush in too fast. Yeah.

Sit behind Tommy Maddox. There's a lot of... But a bird wants the worm. There's also a lot of worms. And a mouse wants cheese. So they're both getting exactly what they want. Not the first mouse. The first mouse gets killed by the trap. Oh, does it say... Oh, the second mouse gets the cheese? Yeah. Is what it says. Yeah. Oh, so those things, do they not go together? No. Not technically. Oh, okay. Because there's a lot of worms. I thought you had to get one. Birds get them all time of day. So a saying on its own is...

is the second mouse gets the cheese. Yeah. That's its own saying. I would think so. Okay. Ben had not heard it. Yeah, I don't think I've heard it either, but we threw it. I thought you just made it up. No, no. I mean, maybe I made it up at some point, but I don't know. It is good. Yeah. I don't mean to bring it back to your sandwich thing, but I have a question. Hmm?

Oh, finally. Yes. Thank you. Thanks for joining in. I've never had anyone interested. It's kind of a two-part. You're talking about the person that invented the sliced bread. Well, let's do the first one first. I am doing the first one first, Nate. And then we're going to go to the second one. Well, because you're talking about things that people invented, like the Uncrustable.

Didn't, like your grandma did that way before Schmuckers did it, right? So like, it was invented before Schmuckers did it. So then that leads to my second, is a peanut butter and jelly. Because according to what you said, we need to have meat. Is a peanut butter and jelly or a grilled cheese a sandwich? Peanut butter and jelly. Not according to what that. Oh yeah. Grilled cheese. Yeah. I think, well, peanut butter's got protein in it.

But this definition said meat. Yeah. I would say there's a lot of vegans and vegetarians that would argue that they're meatless sandwiches. Ice cream sandwich? Oh, yeah. Even this Oreo. I mean, it's a cookie, but it's two cookies stacked on top of each other. What's that say right there? Oh, it says a chocolate sandwich cookie. Oh, really? Not just one, but two. Wow. Thank you. It's like a Big Mac. Sorry, I didn't mean to bring it back to your question. No, it's...

I would think peanut butter and jelly is a sandwich. I love peanut butter and jelly. I do too. And then I would say the Crustables, it's like they just packaged it. So it was like it's one of those ideas that was out there. They did it. We'll do it for you. And they go, we're going to sell them. And then now, Crustables, they're making a big comeback right now. They left. I didn't know they left. I didn't either. No, I think they did good, but it's because of football. Because football players do with, what's the show? Hard Knocks.

They were like talking to them. They're everywhere on the field, everywhere. Yeah, yeah. And so at Hard Knocks, they were saying like that these linemen are eating like 30 or something a day or whatever. And so it brought back, not that the Crisples was doing bad, but I don't think they were in anybody's mindset of like, I think the football players did it, but in public,

At home, you weren't buying these crustables. And then it was almost like a new group of people found out about crustables, and they're like, oh, that's right. Are you saying crustable or uncrustable? Uncrustable. Okay, I wasn't sure. I was saying both. Okay. I go back. We just go with it. I thought maybe there was a crustable out there, and I was interested. No, we've learned just to go with it. I've eaten a crustable. It's only the crust. Well, Ben, thanks for not coming back. Well, how do you eat a sandwich? Do you eat the crust all around?

Take a bite and move to the next spot and take a bite. Yeah. Just like a normal human being. Go watch his podcast. Go watch his podcast. You can watch him eat every episode. You do need the crust. It helps add something to the bread. I mean, it's like if you're just eating the soft stuff. I like the soft stuff. Do you? Yeah. Just by itself, though. Yeah. An Uncrustable is unbelievable. It's the best thing ever. I think it's the best.

There's nothing like it. Peanut butter and jelly is nothing like it. But is your second bite going to be deeper into that first bite? I don't think because then you get it all on your mouth. If you go into the deep bite, then it's – Now you got it on your cheeks. You're looking like the Joker out here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you eat it like a regular person.

I mean, he cuts his Doritos bag to not get his hands dirty. That's right. Smart. Oh, what do you mean? You cut it? Well, you know, if you get the jumbo bag of chips, if you've gotten to the bottom, who wants to reach in? I guess this is Big Ben talking. Go ahead. Go ahead, Big Ben. Tell us how you eat this feed of Doritos. Just because you eat the little bags. Any chip. You don't want to reach all the way into the jumbo family-sized bag, so you cut it down so you just can reach in.

Not get your sleeves off. But at the beginning, it's pretty – you cut it from the get-go? Well, that would be silly. Yeah, so you wait. The chips are spilling out. So when you eat chips, you always have – Chips for everyone. That's how he starts. You're eating a bag of chips.

Big bag of chips. Do you always have scissors on the couch with you? Because you're expecting to make some. Like, does your wife see you grab the Doritos and then you stare at the scissors and you go, and you grab them because she knows you're going to be getting in. You know, it's going to be a big bag. It's going to be a full bag of Dorito day. I have three kids, so yes.

I'm not talking about the kids. I'm talking about you. When they're out of town. They're out of town. You sitting alone with a bag of Doritos and scissors on the couch.

Nah, the scissors aren't there. They may come out later, though. I know, but do you ever grab them? You know the way someone grabs a pint of ice cream and they eat it because they're sad. So do you ever go grab, if you have a sad day, do you grab a full bag of Doritos and a pair of scissors and your wife just knows to leave you alone for the rest of the night? Because you're going to... Maybe. Yeah. Don't talk to me.

What about a sloppy joe? That seems like a Midwestern sandwich. I love a sloppy joe. A sloppy joe is nice. I don't mind a sloppy joe. I like a sloppy joe. A sloppy joe is, sometimes they put onions in it, and I don't love that, but when they don't have onions in it, it's not much better. Yeah, don't mess with the recipe. It's just whatever sauce and then ground beef. I can put stuff on it if I want. Yeah, I say don't go putting other stuff in there. Maybe some pimento cheese.

Well, now you just put other stuff in there. I know, but I'm just saying. And you put the craziest thing in the world. I mean, like pimento cheese. It's insane. You just made it, you know, well, might as well have onions in it. Well, if you put pimento cheese, can I put my onions in it? I was going to say pickles or something. Oh, pickles too. That'd make it like a barbecue sandwich. He doesn't like pickles on a sandwich. Ben doesn't. We learned that yesterday. Yeah.

I'll eat a pickle on the side, but not on my sandwich. I don't like some stuff mixed. I never know why they give you a spear when a sandwich. But I guess for people like you, you like a spear pickle next to your sandwich, and you eat it separately. Like a deli. Like a deli. Yeah, for sure. I like that too. I like those pickles that's not really dill. It's kind of the salt and pepper vinegar pickles. They're kind of just barely pickled.

You get them at the Jewish deli. Like Katz's? Yeah. Or Atlanta has Bagelicious. Kind of a bad name. Really great deli. We have Nashville Deli here. Yeah. I've been there. Yeah, it's a good spot. Are you allowed to eat Philly cheesesteak? Oh, yeah. Philly cheese. That's a great sandwich. Yeah, it is. But there's two ways. One is the Cheez Whiz. Old-fashioned canned Cheez Whiz.

Just fine. I'm fine with it. But I like to put some, melt some provolone on there. Yeah. I like regular cheese too. I was just in Philly. I went to a place to get the sandwich and they had that cheese whizze and I'd never heard that before. And I was like, no, thank you. I'd like some regular cheese. Yeah. I guess there's two in Philly.

Pats and Genos. Is that right, Adrian? And there's the big rivals. When you played football, would you eat this stuff before games? Before a game? No. Afterwards, it's a free-for-all. What did you eat before a game? I didn't eat anything. Oh, really? Yeah. If it was a night game, I might eat something small. It didn't look like that. I ate a lot after.

Yeah. Yeah. But guys, they'll have all kinds of food that you can get a hold of. So.

Yeah, I can imagine just – I mean, playing NFL football seems like the most insane thing. I mean, I've been to a game, and just the people screaming is crazy enough. Then you're on the field. People are trying to kill you out there. I imagine after the game, you're like, let's eat. You're exhausted. Oh, yeah. What about the Super Bowl? Is it hard to – that week, because you're around a party the whole week.

You're not. You're separated from the rest of the world. You've got so many media obligations. You actually switch hotels the night before the game and everything, or we did at least. It's not like that. You're practicing your work and you're doing all that stuff. Why do you all switch hotels? I don't know if it was because – I don't know if everyone does it. I assume Coach kind of wanted to get you into a –

You know, because when you go to the hotel that you're at for a week, because you go to the Super Bowl for a week, you're there. Your families can all be there. And so I think he just wants you to get back to the most normal, what a normal pregame would be like when you're at a hotel, because families aren't at hotels for normal games. Yeah. So you just go and you're separate and you're kind of getting yourself back into a night before the game routine, which is much more normal. So I think that's why we did it. Oh, that makes sense. What would be your routine before a game?

like the night before game are you like watching a movie then or something so we would have a lot of meetings yeah you know you meet as a as a quarterback so then you meet as an offense then you meet as a team um and then I would usually go home and spend time at home with the family and I would stay at home because I was going to get better sleep at home with them and I was I'm a little different than a lot of guys where if my family usually because we had family it was a home game we had family in town and everything and so I

I'd go home and hang out with the family, you know, shoot pool, play ping pong, just kind of hang out, whatever. I just was, I wasn't the type that was like, I don't talk to me. I've got to go to bed. Like I've got, I was really able to kind of compartmentalize what I was about to do. And I was like, listen, it's not till tomorrow. And then I get up and see everybody. And, um,

Depending on what time the game was and then head to the stadium, I get there four hours early, so I'd have plenty of time to get myself ready. And would you not – do you ever get bad sleep or you don't – as you're about to start the game, you're like, man, I couldn't sleep at all. Oh, yeah, for sure. There'd be times – and it didn't necessarily mean big games. I slept just fine before. It just could be – think about sometimes you just don't sleep well for whatever reason. And you would wake up and you'd be like, I'm exhausted. Yeah.

And you just, it's like, okay, I just got to find a way. And it wasn't fun because when you woke up, you're like, I'm going to have to fight through this even more because you've got guys about to come want to destroy you. Yeah. Especially being a quarterback. Yeah. You're just going to get hit. And I'm like, man, I'm kind of tired. I got to go do this. But, you know, it's like anything. Adrenaline kicks in and gets you through it. And then you'd really feel it after. Yeah. After a game, I've told people before, like I've been, you get physically exhausted. But being a quarterback, you have to,

there's so much mental. Like I've sat down after games and been like, I am mentally drained. Like I just played chess against these guys and I'm doing this, that, and this. So I'm physically drained, but I'm also mentally just exhausted because I was changing plays, calling plays, doing whatever it was. And so you'll just sit down afterwards. And then when those nights when you're tired too and you're done after the game, it's just like, I'm ready for bed. Yeah. I get that. The mentally draining. Yeah, we do something similar.

Well, it's not the same thing because you're on both sides of it. But doing a show, when you're doing a show, it's like it can be mentally, especially in the arenas, it's like an hour straight of no break, no, you know, and you can get off. And especially you do a full weekend of it where you are just like, you're like, I can't.

When you guys would get done, this is a question, because when I got done after games, I'd be physically exhausted. I'm like, I'm just, I go sit down. I'm like, I just want to, I'm ready to crash. But I couldn't because my adrenaline, like it would take for, you guys have the same thing where you come off stage and adrenaline's still running in you for hours. I can sometimes feel like I want to crash. There's times I'll get off stage and I'm like, it feels like I could go to sleep

right now but i don't think i could body wise it feels like that but mentally yeah it's hard to mentally you're trying to come down yeah mentally it's like because it's it's that's what i've as as it got bigger and you're coming up with this stuff when you're up there for the hour and you're doing so many shows it's the it's just the yeah because it even though it's an hour it's just a straight hour of like

There's no break. There's no, you know. And is it different if you're doing like a 10 or 15? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Those are a lot easier. You get off. You're not quite as bad. Yeah. I mean, sometimes, and especially now, I'm about to record a special on Friday. And I'm like, I'm pretty like almost tired of the jokes that I'm doing. So I'll be 15 minutes in to, you know, an hour, hour 10. And I'm like.

I I'm about to have to do all these jokes and I just feel I don't know I just feel like that I'm like mentally sometimes not that into it but you're still like I gotta I still have to perform this I mean people still paid money to see whether I'm tired of the joke or not right they they don't want to see me be tired of the joke but you get into it you know the flow comes yeah

But also sometimes if the audience is not that into it, I mean, it's like, you know, I don't feel like I have any bad shows anymore, but sometimes a show can be worse than others. Sometimes you go out and everything you say is hilarious and you're like, oh man, I'm going to crush this. And then other times you're like, oh, I'm really going to have to work it. I got to be on my, on my game here. Yeah. Sometimes you got to pivot a little bit. You got to do something different.

You need to... Go with a knock-knock joke. Yeah. I want to be your... What time do you need to bounce? I mean, whenever I can. Well, we're both big Titans fans, so we desperately need a quarterback. So we need you. Would you be willing to come out of retirement? My arm works just fine and is better than a lot of guys in the league right now. Yeah. But everything from my waist down would not work. Knees, ankles, hips, that wouldn't work.

Yeah. So if you could, if you could, if I could put the Dan Marino high tops on, protect my ankles, give me a line that could not let anyone close to me. I could just throw it. Sure. I don't think the Titans have that, but we got a new GM. So if we could get that for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we can make some calls, write your number down just to, I think you guys should trade down.

And then build it back up a little bit. That's what I said when he ridiculed me for it. I didn't say that. No, I didn't. But it's obvious that who at the table knows football. I can tell just from being here for a little bit that you understand it. No, I didn't say. I did not tell.

Tear you down for it. You want to draft with that first pick like one of the star... Travis Hunter. I think we need a splashy hire. I said Travis Hunter would be a very splashy hire. That's not a quarterback. Would be splashy. And he's going to play 30 plays a game. He wants to trade back. In general, he wants... He doesn't want the Titans to ever be that good. It's...

I don't think that's unreasonable. Growing up with Vandy fans, he's a Vandy fan. There's a lot of older Vandy fans. I really don't think they want people to win. They want to be like...

It's going to be a whole thing. It's like a band that only you like. And if they get too popular, everybody will like them. Everybody's going to like them. He just was a splashy hire. He's not surprising. Like the billionaire owners, the way he thinks. I think like a fan. And the last time we traded back that first pick, we got Derrick Henry. Our team got better. The team got better. I agree. I think they could be trading back. I'm not against them trading back, but I think also the Titans need to be talked about. But then you're going against what you just said.

Well, I know, but we've tried. Can you come every week, please? I know, but we've done it that way for a long time. It's that way. And we're still in the same spot that we're in. So we haven't gotten, it's not like we went up and got back. So we're still in the exact same spot. So why would you not then go like, well, maybe we need to change it up and go, like, let's get us just being talked about on ESPN. I think we should change the name from the Titans to something else. I think it should go back to the Oilers. Let's get a new mascot.

Yeah. I like that, too. I think they should do that. We debate this every – whoever wins the Heismans, we would have 10 quarterbacks on our team right now if he was the GM. Just splash. No, I would be more reasonable. I would be able to handle it. He would – Brian would trade everything and hopefully just out of the draft, he didn't have to make a pick.

That's what Brian would do. Trade so much that... He's traded so much... I just pass. That he goes, they go, well, we don't got to pick until 2054. And he's like, well, I'll be long gone then. So that's great. And then he doesn't have to worry about it. But if we get a good offensive line, we know got a guy that's willing to come back. We do have a guy that's willing to come back. All right. Ben Roethlisberger will come play for the Titans. That's our social media clip for this week. Yeah. It's just that. He's going to come back. No context. And then...

Did you almost go anywhere else to play? Like you were just in the Steelers after? No. I mean, I had a chance to, you know, potentially towards the end. Like I could have maybe explored some different things. But at the end of the day, I'm like, I get to play 18 years for one team. That was special to me. Yeah, that's awesome. And that franchise, the fan base are the best in the world. And so I could just say that that was it from start to finish. Yeah. Never went anywhere else. Never put another jersey on. A lot of great quarterbacks.

went and did that. And it just, to say that I didn't have to do that, it's special. Pittsburgh's a great city. It is. I like it there. It's awesome. It's a great organization. What, three head coaches in 60 years? Yeah. It's crazy. It is crazy. I did not know that. Stability. Yeah.

When you get a call, so you would get calls after you retired? Yeah, when guys go down, your agent will get a call. When Aaron got hurt in New York with his Achilles, my agent would be like, hey, any interest? I'm like, zero.

I was actually at the Crew Cup the first... Oh, really? Yeah, when it happened. We were watching the game. Oh, yeah. I went down and I was like, uh-oh. And then sure enough, I get a text like, hey, before I get these calls, any interest? I'm like, nope. I'm golfing. I'm good. Yeah. So it happens all the time. And could you go back... How, like, if someone was retired...

Say at that moment you were like, I was interested. Could you get in the shape to go? Or is it like, don't you have to, is it? Yeah, I mean, well, you wouldn't have gone, you're not going to go play the next week. You've got to go learn. So it would have been like a,

hey, give me a month, give me 30 days. I'll come halfway through the season or something like that. It's probably what it would be. Some guys maybe would be ready to go right away. But even that, you couldn't – it'd be hard to play the next week unless you were familiar with an offense. And I was already a year removed. If you're a guy that maybe just retired – Yeah, your vehicle was in the car. You already parked your – you were in the garage. Yeah.

Because if you're just retired, you're like maybe still working out. Yeah. You're like, you were in the middle of the lake. I might need two months. Yeah, you go. He goes, I'll come back next year. They go, well, that's not the point is we need you now. He goes, yeah. And that was when they said they just call the agents and just say, yeah. Remember the 49ers? When Garoppolo went down? Yeah. I mean, they contacted my agent as well.

But again. So you're just saying you only do it for the Titans. Yeah. Again, just write your number down here. Yeah. And you get a call from Brian Bates. Just sign your name right here, please. Brian. Ben, this is Brian. Remember we did a podcast together? That was 30 minutes ago. Yeah. I gave you the Oreos. Yeah. I gave you the Oreos. I'm still in the building. Yeah. No, I think I remember that. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. We can, yeah, we're going to let you get out of here. Well, thank you. Thanks for having me, guys. This was a lot of fun. Ben's got a podcast. Everybody go listen to it. You were just on it. I was just on it. Thank you. And when does that come out? This comes out Wednesday. Oh, well, then let's make ours tomorrow.

Oh, how did y'all do that? He goes. Yeah, it's going to be, we do ours on Tuesday, so we haven't decided yet if it's going to be this Tuesday or next Tuesday. All right, but it'll be coming out. Footballing. Footballing. With Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger. Awesome. Appreciate you. And yeah, go check that out. I don't know where I'll be. Irvine. We're going to keep going, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're going to keep going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Thanks for coming in. You're the best. Great meeting you. Yeah. We'll be in touch. Okay. Go Vandy. Go Vandy. Yeah. Dusty, don't look at your phone. You sign up for something, forget about it after the trial period ends. Every time. Then you're charged month after month after month. I keep having fish come to my house because I don't even know where I ordered the fish from. Well, you know who could help you with that? Rocket Money.

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I don't feel like have we, us three, been on the podcast alone? I don't think so. Yeah, I guess not. Yeah. All right. It feels weird. I was hoping Ben could stay. It feels great. You're scooted over. Yeah. I've never been this close to you. I feel weird being right here. What have we not had? Have we had... Well, I've had them three, obviously, but yeah, this is three. That's the only combo. I guess we've never done...

Just me and you. Yeah, just me and Dusty. You've never missed a podcast.

No, I've missed one. It's been a while, but when my daughter was born. Yeah, that's right. But I haven't missed many. Yeah, I've never done one just me and Aaron either. Well, we've never done. I've done just me and you, I think. Yeah, did we? I think so. With a guest, though. Oh, with a guest. Yeah, I don't think we've ever just done a two-person episode. But y'all have done y'all three. You do you, Dusty, and Aaron. Yeah. So I don't.

Yeah, this is a... Yeah. Finally. Yeah. Yeah. This is a special podcast. Special podcast. You know, I feel like... Three guys are just selling out shows left and right. I feel like we really were starting to catch a rhythm with Ben in the podcast, and then he had to leave. But it was... At the beginning, I felt like it was a little shaky, and then we really got into it. Then we got rolling. We got in a groove. He's very funny. Yeah, go check out his podcast. I just did it. But yeah, very fun to talk with, and...

Yeah, he's a good... And he's someone that like... He's funny and the more you hang out with him, the more he gets it. Like he is someone that could very easily fit in with us on this podcast. And once he got... The more of us hanging out and got in the rhythm of all of us, like he would slide right in. Yeah. But we didn't...

This whole podcast is kind of backwards. Yeah. So, but I wanted to... We can talk about... We can talk about our weekend. Yeah. I forget what I... I did nothing. I was here or something. I did... You came down here. I did pop down to All-Stars show on Saturday night. Here at Zany's. Here at Zany's in the lab. I was like looking for something to go do. We were trying to find something to do, me and Laura, and...

Uh, so we went and had dinner with Lucy came and then we came over here and they were doing a show and I was like, well, you know, I pop on and I want to try a couple of things. And so I popped on and did that. So that was, it was awesome. Uh, but you had, I, well, I went to, uh, well, can I just mention real quick where I was? Oh, I guess we'll get to the main guy. You go, you met Ben Roethlisberger. I didn't know that there was any particular order. So we've always gone. I never been right here though. That is true.

I mean, once you're done. I guess we moved him up so it made it. Yeah, I've never been here. Yeah, yeah. But let's see. It feels like we have a huge table and we like to sit in real close. It feels crazy that there's nothing over there. Yeah.

Yeah. We need to take this partition out. Yeah. No, Friday I was in Mars Hill, North Carolina doing a show for Beach Glen Baptist Church, a fundraiser for their mission trip. Oh, nice. And it's just outside Asheville, state of Nashville. I-40 is not open yet. No. I think it's supposed to open this weekend actually. And it takes a lot longer to get there. Oh, wow. It's a lot of time on your trip. You got to

Go around. But anyway, great time. A lot of folks came out. And yeah, thanks for having me. All right. Okay. Well, I did two shows. I went to Boise, Idaho. I've never been to Idaho. Never been there at all. How many more states do you have? I think I have five. Left. I have Vermont, which I will go to this year. Yep. I have New Hampshire, which is not on the list. Yep.

And then, oh, South Dakota. And then, you know, Australia. I mean, Alaska and Hawaii. Hawaii. Yeah. I really been, I said, I was really struggling with those times and years and numbers. Yeah. But, you know, that would be a good goal to tell comics, young comics, like your goal in comedy is,

You're like performing in every state. Yeah. Like headline... Your goal is not to perform in every state. Headline in every state. And I don't mean... Like there's a lot of people who perform or, you know, I guess perform, but like you want to... It's a good like...

It's a good thing if you have done that as a comedian. Yeah. You're going to be a better comedian because you performed in every state than you would be if you did it. And it's fun to go to different places. Boise's really nice. I went to a bar after and was hanging out. A lot of people coming up to me that weren't at the show but recognized me. And I was like, this is really fun. Yeah. And probably not a big drinking town, so it fits right in. Yeah. And then I went to...

Salt Lake City which I've been to many times love Salt Lake City my first theater show first time not doing Wise Guys oh wow I walked by Wise Guys I missed it but it was very fun great theater show what was the theater it was Capitol Theater yeah

Yeah, Salt Lake City is unbelievable. So great. I love Salt Lake so much. My one thing is they really don't like smoking there at all. There's no downtown smoking lounges. There's nowhere to go. I hate that. Other than that, it's the perfect place. Oh, cigars? There's not a cigar? No lounge downtown. Yeah, yeah. There's some cigar shops where you can go buy them, but nowhere to smoke.

You had to go outside. Did you go outside? Yeah, I did go. But even they don't even really want you doing that. Yeah. You really have to like, you know, kind of just do it. They don't want it. There's signs everywhere telling you not to do it. Don't smoke. No smoking signs. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow. But I did though. Yeah. Yeah.

And it was great. And then I got a nice – I woke up Sunday morning, and my manager had sent me this thing where I got mentioned in Time magazine. I'd never had that before, but I got this mention. I mean, I'm pretty far down there. But it's not ranked in order, is it? I don't think it's in order. No, it's just like, what is it? The top 25 specials on Netflix. Netflix.

Yeah. Yeah. According to, you know, according to time, I mean, it's fun. I had, I got, you know, I got swindled into a bunch of magazine subscriptions when I was 18 or 19 and time was one of those magazines. So I read it a bunch when I was younger, back before the internet and I would read things.

So, yeah, it was fun. It was a nice ride up. Dusty sweat. This picture of me, though, I mean, I really look like, I don't know. Yeah, sure. It looks like, yeah. This is one of those where they like have you take a million photos, and then they're like, oh, here's a different looking one, and then they use that one. Is this one's on Netflix or on General? I think on Netflix. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

So, yeah. So that's fun. That's awesome. Yeah. I didn't even get in. I didn't even make the... No. So there you go. At least someone from one of us... Was I on our real thing? There you go. There was 26 specials on Netflix. Yeah. So, yeah. But that was fun. So I had those things. And yeah, two big shows. I mean, I sold out in Boise. And then...

Salt Lake's a bigger theater. I didn't sell out there, but I sold more tickets in Salt Lake than Boise. Yeah, Boise sold out. It's great. Boise's great. It's a fun, fun town. Yeah, Salt Lake as well. Well, our next sponsor, you know we love, Delete Me.

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My husband currently works on The Price is Right and Let's Make a Deal. That's fun. The reason you see the same car slash washers and dryers, et cetera, is because they record multiple episodes a day. Two normally, but sometimes three. Then they air them out of order so you don't see the same prizes in consecutive episodes. And no, there is no limiter in the wheel.

I'm going to be honest. I don't trust Lee on that last one. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. I trust Lee everywhere else. But you think she's lying about that? You know, I'm not saying she's lying, but maybe they don't fill her in on everything. Or her husband in. Or maybe he doesn't fill her in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's like, that was the fine. He goes, no, there's no limiter. Well, you'd probably have to sign an NDA for that. Yeah. Yeah. So there's really no way of Dusty believing there's no limiter except him getting to run the prices. Right. Right. Even then. Even then. There could be people in there that don't tell. It's under the CBS. Isn't it on CBS? Yeah. Yeah. So you'd be like, you need to run CBS. Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. I need to know all the inner workings. I would need to probably go to some sort of mechanical school and then be able to examine the wheel. You could build your own. I could build my own, yeah. And they have to go to your house to do it. Yes. And you're only... Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that part of the show, they're at my house to spin the wheel. They have to fly. Yeah. Somebody commented that they feel like... Who was it? Yeah.

Bryce commented last week. He's my hat guy. Yeah. And he said that he felt like that there was like a person there that felt like they gave a real weak spin. Yeah. And it went around multiple times and then he really got at it. Yeah. And it felt like it was the same. Yeah, I think that's what she's commenting on because he said they felt like there was a limiter because the 90-year-old lady did just as well as he did. That sounds like Bryce is just weak. Yeah, I see what you mean. And maybe. It's like you think you're going to spin it, but...

Isn't there some stuff? I bet it would be like there is no limiter. It's just the way it is. You can't spin it harder. It's almost like it's going to go around when it goes around. Sometimes at an arcade, you can do a spin thing, but you could try, but it's never going to really let you spin it.

So technically, there's something on it. Yeah, it's like my son has a toy truck, and you push it, and the wheels will make it go. But no matter how hard you push, it's going to go that same speed. Yeah. Yeah. And that would be a limiter, though, I would think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stricter plate. Alan Cup, listening to your SNL 50th podcast, and you mentioned the after parties. It reminded me of the time Paul McCartney, Taylor Hawkins, and Beck –

Got turned away from a Grammy after party. Yeah. Yeah, this is on TMZ. Yeah, how exclusive a part is it when they don't allow one of the Beatles inside? Yeah. That's pretty crazy. That's because that's not the real Paul. Yeah. Oh, that's the fake one? That's Beck right there, I believe. Yeah. And then they eventually leave and go somewhere else. Yeah, that's brutal. Woody Heston's with them, too. I think that's Woody. Looks like Woody, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's, uh, that's tough. And yeah, that's like the word. That's like one of those situations where you, uh, you want to go. It's, it's, it's, that stuff frustrates me. Uh, because it's like someone, whoever's running the party or whatever it is for whatever reason.

Say a security guy did not know who Paul McCartney was. That's fine. I'm not saying he should. Like him, Beck, Woody Harrelson. You could have someone that just is like, yeah, I don't know who any of those people are. I agree that that can exist. But if you're doing that kind of party, that cannot exist. You cannot have them be turned away because that's the whole point of your party.

is to have those guys come to it. You're in the world of that. They're not showing up to a Dunkin' Donuts and they can't get in. They're showing up to the world of a Grammy's after party. So you're all buying into this system that you have this cool no one can come after party. Well, you don't get to do that. And no one at the party is glad that Paul McCartney back in

and Woody Harrelson didn't get in. No, no. And say you have a security guy that's, well, I didn't know who they were. Because sometimes you have that where they go like, what, is it his responsibility to know everybody? If you take that job, it is. Yeah. And so it is your job. I don't know who Taylor Hawkins is.

And then if you go, if, like, when I would go, yeah, when, like, going to the after parties that I went to is, yeah, I was the most, not the most scared of, but just the awkwardness you were going to have was to be like, oh, I'm going to, yeah, you know, I know who that is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah. He died, huh?

Did he? Oh, yeah. He died on my birthday, actually. Wow. March 22nd. Way to bring that up. March 25th. March 25th in 2022. Yeah. As Bates, you can find death out of anything. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's, you know, like every party I would go up to, I was like, you're like, am I on the list? I don't want to go up there and stand. And they're like, no, you can't come in. Exactly what happened right there. You're just like, I don't want that to happen. Because you're going, I don't even, there's an unbelievable chance that Paul was invited to that. That whole group was probably told, come to this.

And you're like, all right, well, just make sure I'm on the list so I don't have to do this weird, embarrassing thing. And then that happens. I don't know any backstory to that. But it's like then that happens, and you're like, yeah, dude. Like that was the whole point. I'd rather not come. Right. You know. Yes. Don't ask me to. Yeah. That's crazy. Caroline Gibson. Now that Nate and Martin Short are buddies, how can we orchestrate an interview between Nate and Jiminy Glick? Glick.

Yeah, I don't know. I've never been... I would never bring that up to him, but Jiminy Glick is the best. I guess the rumor is he and Meryl Streep are dating. Yeah, I heard that. I just heard that with... I mean, it seems like people knew that. I have no idea. They said it to each other. I don't know who Jiminy Glick is. He's the character that Martin Short plays. Yeah, it's the best, dude. Jiminy Glick, you should go... It is Jiminy. Yeah, it's...

Oh, yeah. It's so funny. Yeah. He is. Martin Short is just one of the most talented people ever. He's so great. And he still is. And he's so funny. And he's so like fun to talk with. And he did the Santa Claus three. Yeah. The escape clause. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's just really good. It's such a stupid movie, but Martin Short's so funny. Yeah. So it was, yeah, it's all great. And then, uh, so yeah. Uh,

Was I going to, I don't know. Meryl Streep? Oh, the Meryl Streep. Yeah, so I didn't know. I did not know that. I still don't know that except I've only heard from like Abigail and Lucy or Laura, you know. But it did make sense. They sat next to each other. I was in their row. So it was, you know, it was them two together.

Well, good for him. Yeah. Yeah, good for Martin Short. It's a real who's who. They should really, they should get them out in the pictures like TMZ. You know, they get like Kim Kardashian. It'd be funny to be like, it's Martin Short and Meryl Streep like walking out just all the flashes and they're like, and they're just like, get back, get back. And we want to live a private life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what they should. All right. Yeah. Respect the harvest. That's the name of the... Wow. Dusty is like smoking. You don't love it at first, but after a few more times, you can't live without them. Yeah. I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah. Costanza. Costanza. Costanza.

Yeah, you can see that. Yeah, thanks, Respect the Harvast. Yeah, it's a great name for you too. Yeah. You would like that? Mm-hmm. That's what you believe, Respect the Harvast? Yeah. What's Harvast? I don't know. I was thinking Harvest, but as I was reading it, I was like, no, that says Harvast. Yeah, I was thinking Harvest too. Should we, do we need to wrap it up? Yeah, I'm about to. Yeah, yeah.

Uh, yeah, we're good to all this stuff. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think all these, I had a couple in here for that would have been good for Ben. One of them was, uh, about the Steelers, but yeah, as a Steelers fan. Yeah. Uh, Chad Stapleton as a Steelers fan who grew up near Youngstown. I just want to say that Nate is not right about the personalities of fans.

Browns fans have been historically one of the worst fan bases in football. Keep in mind, Browns fans are the reason the NFL will not allow alcohol to be served after the third quarter and the reason tailgating cannot start as early. Trust me, they are not a fan base to admire. I don't know if I, did I say? This is from three years ago. Oh, that's so funny. Absolutely.

I dug it up on a Pennsylvania episode. Mike Vecchione said he grew up in Youngstown, Ohio, which is halfway between Pittsburgh and Cleveland. But everybody was a Steelers fan because they were good.

The Browns weren't. And you said it takes more character to be a fan of the underdog. As a Vandy fan, yeah. Yeah, as a Vandy fan. Okay, that makes sense. And Chad's saying, well, Browns fans are not to be admired. Oh, boy. You think Chad's even listening to this podcast still? He quit. He quit three years ago. I don't know. He's a Browns fan. So if he can stick around and keep watching the Browns. Well, he's a Steelers fan. Oh, he's a Steelers fan. Oh, yeah. Okay. So we might get him back. Yeah. He might have came back for this. Yeah. Oh, wow. So here's the...

Ben Roethlisberger's on. He's going to want to know. Yeah, he's going to know what's going on. All right. Yeah, thank you, everybody. Where are you guys at? March 7th, I am in Bozeman, Montana. My first time in Montana. Love Montana. At Last Best Comedy Club. March 12th, I have my show here at Zany's. March 14th, 15th, I'm in Beverly, Massachusetts, just outside of Boston. They won't let me in Boston, but...

just outside of Boston, and you're there that Friday, the same night. I don't like that, but...

If your shows don't sell well, that's because I'm in town. Okay, well. You're going to feel it. Yep. Yeah. The wrath. Yeah. Yeah, the wrath of baits. Well, tonight, as this podcast is coming out, I'll be at Zaney's. I have a show at Zaney's. And it'll be my last time to run my special before I film Friday in Chattanooga. As we are talking, there are some tickets still available, but the shows have sold well enough.

that we can do it with these people. Nice. It's great. We've sold out one show. There are a few tickets to the second one, but it's great. I feel good about it. I'm pumped. Awesome. Walker Theater. And you may have noticed a new helmet over here, new football helmet, Nate Land helmet. It comes from Parker Fenton.

who I guess does custom helmets. 731 custom helmets. Yep. So thank you, Parker. It's a cool Nate Lane helmet. Yeah, it's awesome. All right. All right. Well, go check everybody out. Aaron's probably somewhere, so go to see him. He was sick today. All right. Aaron is in Kansas City. That's not until March. Well, all right. Not this weekend, but the following weekend. The following weekend, he's in Kansas City, the Funny Bone show.

He had a good time in Washington. He's going to Boston March 21st. Yep. Laugh Boston. All right. A lot of Boston. Yep. All right. We love you. Have a great week. Bye. Nateland is produced by Nateland Productions and by me, Nate Bargetzi, and my wife, Laura, on the Audio Boom platform. Recording and editing for the show is done by Genovations Media. Thanks for tuning in. Be sure to catch us next week on the Nateland Podcast.

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