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Bats LIVE! (w/ Ike Barinholtz)

2023/10/6
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Paul Scheer: 本片讲述了嗜血蝙蝠袭击小镇的故事,Lou Diamond Phillips需要拯救小镇。影片风格类似于80年代作品,场景设置很棒,但蝙蝠的形象设计和一些情节缺乏逻辑性。 June Diane Raphael: 她害怕蝙蝠,曾误把蝙蝠当成蜂鸟。她认为电影中Dina Meyer的角色对蝙蝠的喜爱缺乏合理的解释。 Ike Barinholtz: 他讲述了一个与蝙蝠装扮的人发生冲突的经历。他觉得电影里的蝙蝠很可怕,尤其是它们细小的爪子和手指。他认为电影里的蝙蝠都非常强壮,像打了类固醇一样,并且不太理解电影中注射类固醇给蝙蝠的目的是什么。 Jason Mantzoukas: 他认为电影《蝙蝠》是一部被低估的佳作,场景设置很棒。

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The discussion kicks off with the hosts and guest Ike Barinholtz dissecting the 1999 horror flick 'Bats,' focusing on the absurdly muscular bats and the film's overall premise.

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We are excited because tonight we are going to talk about an actor that we love, Lou Diamond Phillips. LDP.

in a movie called Bats. A movie that has sequels, but with none of this cast. A movie that, you guessed it, is about bats. Honestly, that's all you really need to know.

I guess a lot of bats. And maybe if we want to add to that, and bats that eat people. I mean, that's really the premise of the movie. Bats that eat people get loose in a town, and Lou Diamond Phillips has to save the day. Oh, and Lou Diamond Phillips is Southern. Okay, so movie came out in 1999, which is interesting because when you watch it, if I told you 1987, you'd be like, okay, sure.

But tonight, we are going to break down this movie with my two co-hosts. Please welcome them to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzoukas! What's up, Jerk? That's right! How we doing, Largo? Yeah! Here we go! Boom! Wait, there's four seats?

Four seats, Jason, because tonight we do have a special guest. How did this get made all-star, if you will? I will. Before we get into that, I did want to ask you this. Were you surprised to find out, as much as I was, that this movie was released theatrically? Okay. Yes, I am.

Second, and forgive me if you included this earlier in your statements, had never heard of this movie in my entire life. Don't think that that's odd. I don't think that that's odd. But here's the thing. I'm not sure why, because it was great. We love that. This movie was great. I was like, oh my God, give me this Little Town set piece forever. This should be a classic. Why don't we watch this like we watch Tremors? Fuck you. Fuck you.

I am on the same page here because... Boy, I thought it was dynamite. I love it. I mean, I love LDP. I was like, they're in it now, and they're wearing spacesuits? This movie's got it all. Except for the bad guys are bats. You can't shoot bats with a handgun. Come on! Jason, hold on. Get him out here! We will get him out here. Please welcome my other co-host, June Diane Raphael!

How are you, June? I'm well. How are you, Paul? I'm doing well. June, Dina Meyer, one of the stars of this movie. Incredible. Incredible. One of my co-stars in Piranha 3D. She was just as awesome as you would expect, but she's afraid of bats. Are you afraid of bats? Of course. I'm an American adult woman. Yes. Yes.

Of course I am. I wouldn't trust you if you weren't afraid of bats. I'd be like, ooh, that's a Russian spy. If you'll remember, Paul, I did have an encounter with a bat a few years back. And I thought, oh God, it was so upsetting because I thought at first that, you know, one of my deceased relatives has been coming back as a hummingbird. And so I thought...

Oh my god, it was nighttime in Ojai and I thought, oh my god, look at all those hummingbirds. I've never seen a roost of hummingbirds together like that. All those hummingbirds on the roof of this cave. And I was so excited. And when I realized they were bats, it was just, it was really upsetting. I mean, they really are just night birds that carry disease. Yeah.

And pollinate our jungles, which is something I learned. And that's what was so crazy about our zoologist, our scientist, Dina, because she never brought up the fact that bats have caused a lot of trouble.

Great point. They've caused a lot of trouble. Jimmy at one point says, should we get some garlic for this? Making the connection between the bats that vampires turn into. And just nobody... Jimmy is a ghost in the movie. He's saying things all the time like, how come nobody asked me if I wanted to stay here? And then everybody's like, well, we gotta go to the thing. It's a shame Jimmy died last couple of...

a couple hours ago. They ignore him like crazy. They did not include him in one conversation. What if we just... Oh, it's true. Jimmy doesn't need to... Jimmy entertains himself. Now, I don't want to get too far into it because we do have a special guest tonight. Let's do the whole show before the guest comes out.

Our special guest tonight is a film, a TV, an amazing actor, a writer, but also the person who introduced us to a little-known L.A. tour, the Jason Statham tour. Please welcome Ike! Woo! Woo!

Thank you. Thank you. Ike, welcome back. It's been far too long. Too long. I wore my Statham shirt. Love it. My favorite. Let's go sail it free and easy. We cannot get started. We cannot. We can't. I feel like I would have watched a Jason Statham movie in preparation.

Where do you fall in the Bats world? Did you know about Bats? Have you seen Bats? The movie? The movie. He did. I will say this. Backstage, Ike did say to me, now, are we going to watch the movie again? I was terrified that we were going to watch the whole movie again. That was like four minutes ago.

I'm not afraid of bats. I have no experience with them, except for the time that a giant, I was unloading some stolen goods, and a man dressed like a bat beat up me and my co-worker. Well, that, I mean, this guy has been getting a lot, I mean, he's cleaning up the city, but he's also, I mean, what's up with him? He seems a little weird, this guy, right? He's dressed like a bat. I swear to God, boss. Ha ha ha!

I don't know if I would associate... After seeing the bats in this movie... Are you a goon for the Falcone family? What's going on? Mr. Falcone, I swear to God, he looks exactly like a bat. I don't know what to tell you. Mr. Cobblepot, you gotta understand. All I have to say is this. We're just gonna do Batman bits instead.

When I see Batman, I would not think of the bats that I see in this movie. Like, no. Bats are terrifying. These bats with their little fingers...

Climbing in. Like, the daintiness of their legs and fingers in this movie freaked me the hell out. I will say, like, in the same way that, like, 28 Days Later introduced us to fast zombies, this movie introduced us to jacked bats. They were all jacked. Jacked bats. And they were all, like, ripped. They all had insane shoulders. Yes! Yes!

Also, I'll tell you a little Hollywood secret, industry secret. When you see a bat in a movie, it's Jack, it's steroids. They are the secret. Taking Tremblone, HGA, doing a full cycle. We never heard the full thing that this scientist did. He's like, oh, no, I just injected them with steroids. I made them angry and very strong. You can hit a 500-foot home run. Yeah.

There were times that the bat faces looked like French bulldogs. Yes! I wouldn't be surprised if they were. Yeah, I think some props guy in Alhambra was just taping a bat body to a bunch of Frenchie puppies. My dog Petunia can be in this movie. My dog Petunia is really good. Shoving them into a bat costume. So, Paul, here's what I don't understand, actually. And I didn't love this movie the way that you two loved this movie. It's a shame. It's a real shame.

I don't know how you... No, did I really like it? Yes. Okay. But I could not understand what the...

What the purpose of injecting these bats with these steroids was, I know they were becoming weapons, but some, here's my question. The really big bats, the really big ones. The jacked bats. The jacked bats. It seemed like there were like two of those. Yes. Only two. Two main bats. Those are the two hero bats that escaped. Okay, so they're like number one and two on the call sheet. Who escaped. Yes.

They escaped to prison. So those two bats... Okay, so those two bats escaped to prison, but will the rest of the bats that we know and love become those bats? Yes. Eventually? Well, we saw... That's the fear, I think. We saw that moment where they do the computer analysis of...

In six weeks, they'll be in New Orleans for Mardi Gras. And in one year, it will be the entire... But here's the thing. One year in New York for the St. Patrick's Day parade. They'll make it to Coachella. They got a very big social... They're stuck in the mud at Burning Man. Was anybody here at Burning Man stuck in the mud? Raise your hand. Of course not. Of course not. You fucking...

But here's the thing. I love that a Hot Fist Get Made crowd is like, what? Of course not. Yeah. They listen to podcasts. They don't go to Burning Man. But so all of the little bats, though, are still like murderous bats. Yes. Yes. But they don't have the enhancements, I believe. Wait. So wait. Are you saying that those two bats are...

are just controlling the other bats to attack, but the other bats also are killers as well. That's what I thought. They've got the fever, but I don't think they've been given the enhancements

I thought that it was passed on to them by biting. By the two escaping. They said at one point, the good news, we have good news. Only other bats can get this. So there is a threat there. I did like when they took the tracker and they put it on that bat and then the other two bats instantly marked it. Even in nature, snitches get stitches.

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For free. Terms and conditions apply. There's also, by the way, an incredible set piece where they arrive at a school and fully to an opera soundtrack, a team montage the whole school. And at the end of the montage, they're like, we have to go to the mine. Oh!

Goodbye. Goodbye, school. Pointless. It zeroes out the whole last five minutes. There's so many things in this movie like that. So in the mine, they are... The plan, the big plan to kill these bats is to get a giant cooler, like a giant air conditioner down there. But...

They have to go and just turn it on. It's already there. Great news. It's already there. But why not turn it on before you've dropped it in? Well, because they wanted to get it in deep enough that

They didn't want to scare the bats out. So you're saying the sound of it on would have scared them? Air conditioners and bats are like people moving in T-Rexes. So if an air conditioner is on, they're going to get freaked out. But if you just lower it, they are, oh, what's up? Nothing. I don't see anything.

Okay, here's another question. You know they're in the mine. Why not just close off all the entrances? Okay, well, this brings up a problem that I have, too. So, and I guess the... Now that I think I'm going to answer my own question is that they had to turn on the refrigeration unit. Because I was like, what's the difference between...

blowing up the dynamite at the top of the mine and the bombs that the airplanes would have dropped on it anyway. Like, truly... They needed to turn the machine on and get out and blow the door before it even backed off. Okay, so that's okay. I guess that's it. The movie makes sense, guys. Chill.

Sorry. I will say this. The opening sequence, we're about to see this young man and girl. They're in the car. He's about to pin her. It was very 1955. Yes. It felt like, oh, this is a small town unaffected by 1999 culture. This is a year before 2000. It was like the opening of Thriller. Yes.

That reveal, when I looked up and saw that it was 1999, I truly was like, 92. This felt very early 90s. This is giving me big Twister vibes, this movie. I'm just trying to figure out what spawned this movie. Right. What was successful a couple years before that? Because arachnophobia had already been out early. Like eight years before that. I feel like this was in a time of Lake Placid. Like,

Big scary things. Anaconda. With an outbreak sphere kicker. Yes. I mean it, Twister, because this also had big POV from the bats, from the sky. But when that POV of the bat comes on, I'm like, this movie looks like shit. It's a weird lens. Different lens. I did look at the end of the cold open. They're letting you know these aren't just bats.

these are Texas bats. Which means they're armed and deny within health coverage. They are. Well, I think what that means in case you're wondering. All those bats were wearing those shirts to say, back off or I'm a fucking big dog. They all had big dog shirts on. All the bats are like, we want private power. We don't want the government to give us power. But here's the interesting, this movie does make certain choices that were, I don't know,

honestly very compelling. Like the mayor, for example, I would like to watch an entire movie about. I was so obsessed with her. She's incredible. She deserves her own prestige drama eight episodes. Absolutely. If this movie was about something that wasn't bats, it would be, I'm not kidding, it would be a classic because the set pieces are a blast, but every time they cut to the threat, it's

it's laughable because they are. It's just those jacked bats who are like, wherever our leads are, the jacked bats like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppet Show are perched somewhere above like, ah, ah, ah.

It's just a bunch of jacked Texas bats. Dude, so many bats have moved from L.A. to Texas. Oh, yeah. They don't want to pay taxes and they have a big stand-up career there. You see Joe Rogan interviewing that bat last week? That bat is not an expert, but he asked some good questions. So you're awake at night, but you're asleep during the day. That is so fucking wild. Here's the thing. Bats love cigars.

Jamie, pull up the clip of that bat, the man bat. Have you heard about this man bat? I thought it was interesting when he was like, hey, hey, bat, hey, bat, have you heard about the pyramids and that all of the gold had to have come from outer space? You heard about this, right? Jamie, pull up that video. Let me just... This show brought to you by YouTube Shorts.

What I love about this movie is it does have a lot of elements to your point of like what was it based on and Jurassic Park feels like part of it because it's like I feel like there was an era where it was like we're going to chop her to a scientist somewhere. It's like

We never see that part, but like, we'll fly to them. They're never driving to those scientists. Like, that helicopter lands... That's a $4 million trip. Just to chopper two CDC scientists to a remote site just to get a bat expert. And then...

And there's just five of them. Like, the most of the movie, there's your friend, Dina Meyer. Yeah, Dina Meyer. Who's fantastic in this. She's great. Leon. Oh, Leon. Incredible. Incredible from the Madonna video. Remember that? Of course. He was legit hilarious, I thought. Oh, yeah. Every line he had, like, remember early on, he's like, man, I hate bats. And she's like, why do you do this job? He's like, I want to have sex with you. I'm into you. He's like, super horny. Every line.

Everyone's horny in this movie. It was funny because every now and then his jokes...

undercut plot and then they had to walk it back. It's like, you can't say I know nothing about bats and then later go, well, I made this mock-up of how the bats got... And he worked on this for years, he says. He's like the computer guy doing all that stuff and he's like, yes, afraid of bats. Dina Meyer at the very beginning of the movie very boldly says, I will kill no bats. Then I think proceeds to kill thousands of bats. Yes.

When she says, we have to...

Annihilate them. Like it said was such like, wow. That's what's great. The gravitas moments of this movie. It's a great comparison to Jurassic Park because those moments land when it's T-Rex and dinosaurs. But when those guys come out in the helicopter and she says, what's going on? And they say, bats, Dr. Casper. It's bats. What are we doing? We can't do that.

Here's what I wanted. You have it? I'll pull it up. I really wanted to see the why she loved Bats so much. I never felt like I could quite get behind it. Your monologue. She has a story, but I wish it had been a flashback. It should have been a flashback, and I guess I didn't find it satisfying. I will finance that flashback.

I did feel like, oh, there were points where she seemed to be able to connect to the sonar of the bats and the call. And I thought, is she part bat? Is she... Her mother was a bat. Or she got bit by a bat. I don't... Nothing about the way she performed because I do like her performance. But the story is flawed. It's like, I was a child. Wait, you're telling me... Are you sure about that? Paul, you're telling me... The story of bats... No, no.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Her story of why she likes bats because she's like, oh yeah, I was a child and I was fucking scared of a bat and my dad's like,

I'm going to make you hold one. That felt like more traumatic to me. And then I held it and it was so delicate and I loved it. And then my dad said, it's not that bad. It pollinates the forest. And she's like, okay, that's my profession. Like it was a quick jump from me. And I have to say, I mean, I've never held a bat. Don't want to. Won't. But I'm like, there's no way that you held a bat and felt like

any sort of maternal affection toward him. Yes! Maybe you would be like, oh, okay, I'm not as scared anymore, but you wouldn't be like, oh... I gotta take care of these guys. I hesitate to tell this story again, but I will. My stepfather captured possums and... Here we go!

And for Halloween, we'd put them on our doorstep so kids coming to trick-or-treat would be really freaked out by these possums trying to get out of their cages. Paul? Yeah? I know that for me, when I grew up, we would put up Halloween decorations and they might be out there for a couple of weeks.

Was the possum in a cage on your porch for weeks? No. Just... It's time to take the possum in. It's Thanksgiving. Now put up the Christmas possum. 13 years in and we've never heard this? What is... Wow! We used to catch possums in this trap that would keep them alive. And my stepfather thought,

Well, this is the greatest time to use all these traps. We laid them all around the front door so kids would walk up to our front door and then all these cages were rattling. With live possums in them. June, June,

June, has Paul at all asked if he can do this at your house? So here's what's interesting. I'd never really been into, like, Halloween decor. And I have noticed, Paul, say it right here, right now, that every year we are bringing more attractions into our...

Halloween experience at our home. Well, when I found this thing that you can drill into a tree that's a face and arms, yeah, I'm going to fucking buy that. Yes, I don't know where we end up. Do I have a clown that when you walk by him, he's activated and steam shoots out of his mouth? Yes. Have I freaked out the mailman? Yes. These things happen.

I mean, it's fun. Do you guys have a P.O. box now because the postal service will not deliver to you? We don't want to be breathed on by a clown crawling out of our garden. The third carrier had a heart attack in a week. We have to end this. No, but it was always like, I didn't think of it as weird, but the possums, watching the possums in the trap reminded me of these creatures. Well, those were real animal sufferings.

It was a no-kill trap. It was a no-kill trap. Sure, sure. We would then pile the traps in the car and then drive out far away and release them. Into a lake. We would release them into a river.

I also thought, like, talking about, like, Dina Meyer telling the story about her dad making her touch a bat, then it also felt like Lou Diamond Phillips had a fucked up childhood, too, because he's like, blood moon. My mom always told me when a blood moon happens, someone gets killed. That was crazy. Your mom told you that? Yeah.

He was also in that scene. It was really mid to late 90s where the coolest and hottest thing a man could do was suck on a cigar. You know what I mean? He's got a cigar like four times in the movie. It's like, oh, you think he's cool now? Watch him suck on this six-inch turd. You're going to fall in love, Dina Meyer.

Very, very 1998 energy. I love that he was like, loved opera. I believe brought his own opera album to the school. I had that question too. The album is not there. Was it in the car with him?

So that's very important to him. Never comes up again. And he basically is like, please don't tell the guys downtown that I listen to the opera. Also, I will say, I think moments before they go into the school and they start the A-team montage, there's the guy from Shawshank who's the bad guy. And then there's his deputy who's a great actor named Carlos Chacat. He was Ramon the pool boy from Seinfeld. He gets killed by the batsmen.

And like, they, like 10 seconds later, Lou Diamond Phillips makes a joke and Dina Meyer's like, and then they're into the montage. It was like, like, it was like, like this man just died. He was a colleague of yours. Can someone call his family? Not even. Not even. Hey, Carlos is dead. Yeah, bats got him. They didn't even cover him up because he gets killed at night. And then all of a sudden there's a photographer like, it's like, hey.

cover this man. His throat is slit. You've got to figure that the bats killed 300 people that night. But the thing is, in the attacks, it seemed to me that they would kill one person and then all leave. They're like, all right, we killed the one person for tonight. Let's go. I'm

The bats, this does give me Jaws 3 vibes in that it seems to be that the bats are seeking revenge. And that is something I wish I wasn't saying to the crowd, but it is. The bats appear, the two main bats who escaped the lab appear to only want to kill the doctor, the professor. Yes. Right? Right. I don't know if that's true. Yeah.

Well, they kill the two teens. They kill the two teens, but once the professor's there, they're going after him. And he's like, they want me. I can control them.

It's hard because they were killing so many other people before and after, to be quite honest. But to be fair, some of those people were horny so bad. Well, they deserve to die. I've always said that. Everyone, Lou Diamond Phillips, LDP, very horny in this film, constantly making jokes to Dina Meyer. This reminds me of Fishnets. Yeah, but no sex. Why is that joke told twice? I don't know. Because it's great? Because it's a great joke? Because...

They realize, oh, the theater will be laughing so hard that we need to hit it again. Also, I got to say, again, two-thirds of this movie, when all this is going on, there's five of them. The minute the CDC showed up, they should have been like, fucking call Washington. Get Bill Clinton. Like, where's Bill Clinton? But to your point, I just realized when June, you were saying that. I wish this movie had the line of dialogue, where's Bill Clinton?

I promise you. It would have solved so much. If there was a scene with Bill Clinton where Bill Clinton, like, and it's the act, Bill Clinton playing himself was in this movie and he has to give like a press conference where he's like, we will not let this country be torn apart by bats.

I feel your bats. I would have even settled for John Travolta as Bill Clinton from Pomeranty Colors. But there is a moment where you just said it, June, I just realized that Lou Diamond Phillips isn't even the sheriff of this town. The sheriff. He is. Well, then who's the sheriff? She's the mayor. Oh, the mayor. She's the mayor. That woman is the mayor who gets cut by the bat on her cheek. She's the sheriff. He's the mayor. Two shows that I grew up with.

Well, here's the interesting thing about how the bats attack. Because there are times where, again, I do still have some questions about the difference between the radioactive bats and the regular bats. But the regular bats seem to be able to kill someone very quickly just by biting their necks.

Sure does seem that way, yeah. It sure does seem that way. And overwhelming people with, like, bats. Well, and that I can understand. Like, a swarm of anything. Honestly, anything. What's a group of bats called? I kept writing a flock of bats, and I was like, that can't be right. Because that's seagulls, just like Jonathan Livingston. But do we know what's a group of things? A roost, right? Is it a roost? Is it a roost of bats? Is it a roost of bats? Let's see. Ooh, I like that. I'm going to say a huddle. A murder of crows. That's crows. A roost.

A colony? A colony. My man. Right there. Tim, give it up for Tim. Tim knows everything. Right there, Tim. Tim knows everything. Yeah, it's Tim. Well done, Tim. Well, okay, so let's hear the, like, we can watch a doctor here describe what these bats are because I think they're, I'm agreeing with June. I think all these bats were gotten something. Here, this is my favorite scene in the whole movie, actually. Tell me, Dr. McKay, what exactly did you do to them? I'm sorry, but again, I'm not allowed to say. Now that's bullshit.

Those things are killing people in my town and as far as I can tell you're directly responsible for that. We need to know what we're dealing with here, Doctor. I'm kind of curious myself now that you mention it. Ghosts! Ghosts! Nobody heard him. Alright, I'll tell you then. You let me know how I do. You've somehow increased their natural intelligence.

Yes. Here's my favorite part. He's in a Sixth Sense movie. Leon is. This is the best moment to say that he's dead. Here we go. I'm going to rewind it. She, by the way, puts this together too quickly. You let me know how I do. You've somehow increased their natural intelligence. Yes.

And their ability to work together communally. Well, that's not so bad. Right? We could all use a little dose of that. Then you made them aggressive. Ghost! Ignore it! Ignore it! Finally, you made them carnivores. No, Dr. Casper. I made them omnivorous. Put my bats anywhere in the world and they will feed. Why would you do that? Because I'm a scientist. That's what we do. We make everything a little better.

Bigger livestock, better crop yields. Millions of years of evolution. Arrogance to think that you could do better. Apparently I have, Dr. Casper. How does more bats give you better crop yield? I love that moment, though, because he goes, we made them work together. That's good. Then they kill people. That's bad. Like you needed someone to be like, just in case the audience isn't following it.

Some things are good and some things are bad, but you'll be the voice of the audience there. They also knew they had this big reveal of they've weaponized the bats for the Department of Defense. And they really wait to say that they're turning them into weapons when that's clearly what they're doing. It's clearly what's happening. They clearly had nothing in the scene. He goes, uh, crop yields. Why would they need to be able to kill people for crop yields?

But they also set up stuff that you don't see pay off. That scientist is in his dark, not laboratory, police department. I'm sorry, can we talk about the lighting in the lab for a second? All blue. Holy fucking shit. This is a laboratory. You need lights. The lights in the lab are off. There is magic hour sunlight shooting through the windows into the floor, and then he's looking at a sample with a tiny light.

The diner is also seems to be as if the power has gone out. Yes. And the emergency lights have turned on and they're like, well, this is what we're doing.

Every place in town looks like they have no power and then they reveal power in a crazy way. Like the kid playing a video game. Oh, no, no. We're fully loaded. But the town is dark. Like it is comically dark. I feel like they destroyed a real town for this movie, which is kind of cool. I hope so. Some of those set pieces with big car crashes and explosions, I was like, this looks good. Yeah. I thought that the subplots

the scientists, I thought he was in his hotel room. Wait, when he's looking through the microscope? Yeah. Because, well, this is how he's traveling. He doesn't live there permanently. Do you mean in the school? Because he also does look when they're in the school. The lab. Definitely the lab. I could see him being like, all right, I'm on my way. I'm at my embassy suites right now, but I'll be on the way in a moment. I could have sworn I saw a bed in that room.

Well, sometimes the cops work so hard that they nap too. There is a moment that I love in this movie. It's going to be hard to explain, but I'll try, where it starts off on the pool boy from Seinfeld, who's great, and he's on the phone, and the camera pans off of him, and it goes on to the scientist who's looking in the microscope. But in a normal movie, they would be like, yes, well, I'm right here.

And then that voice would kind of trickle out and we'd just be focused on music and the guy in the lab. But while he's looking, they keep his volume up. The guy in the room is like, oh yeah, no, she's very nice. I don't think so. We'll probably meet them up later. Well, they don't need to know anything. Yeah, sure. This movie doesn't... Oh, I think I have pizza. Sure.

I mean, I like them, but I don't love them. We should get a salad too, baby. Okay. This movie does a lot of that wherein somebody will be deeply foregrounded in an extreme close-up big frame

big face bad guy, and then right to the side will be all three other cast members, like, 13 feet away in the deep background. And it's like, the movie is visually, in a way, very interesting for what it is, because they're trying to do something, but a lot of times I was like, what is going on? This feels like kids being like, let's make a movie! That scene I think we were just talking about when they're in the lab. I remember...

being like, how much fucking longer is in this movie? And I looked at the counter and only 17 minutes had gone by. Listen, when the military called and said that they were sending in the air troopers or whatever they were,

In 62 minutes, I was like, oh, no. By the way, that moment where you see the F-16 scrambling, the funniest shit, so clearly from a different film. Like, I imagine that the director said to the line producer early on, hey, I would love, if possible, if we can get a couple shots of F-16 scrambling. You know what? We just did Iron Eagle. We can get it. By the way, you're right. It's Iron Eagle 2. It's Iron Eagle 2. No! Yes. Is it? That's what it is? Wait, did I tell...

I did not know that. I just thought it was a random Department of Defense industrial film from 1982. Which is basically what Iron Eagle is.

But he did not get that. It looks like it's a different film. It's different film stock. It's shockingly different. And that's the weird thing about the movie. They also do the giant massacre, the end of the movie massacre, right in the middle. It's like, we're not going to top this. 300 people killed in the town. Now it's going to become like a room drama. That's why I was so fascinated by this mayor because she did tell everybody to get inside.

Does it make a difference? And evacuate. And by the way, that's also Texas. It's Texas. Friday night football. You don't mess with that. That's also Texas. I don't care if I'm going to get eaten by a bat. I'm going to watch my gigantic grandson develop CTE at 17.

I could not believe they didn't show what I would have paid to see that woman, that mayor, go around and somehow get the word out that the bats are here. I would pay very good money to see that scene. I guarantee you this town is full of anti-batsers. Here is my theory. Don't applaud that.

That was a litmus test. You failed. My theory is this. This movie, the term bats is just stupid. Like, hearing bats too much, it's like, it's just stupid. I don't know. And so Averill cut together a montage of the amount of times that people say the word bats. Wow. Bats. Bats. Batcher. Batcher.

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Oh, wow. Incredible stuff. I would have loved Fantastic. I think this is what must have happened. I think that initially they might have thought like, well, just the bats are bats and they'll be killer bats. And that'll be really scary to see all those bats as killer bats. But then they must have shot some of those bats and thought like, oh, this doesn't work at all. And then they made just two.

crazy looking pterodactyls because the bats. Too like proper puppets. Puppets because that's what was so tough about the movie. I kept on thinking to myself this is a movie about bats. This is a movie about bats. Wait you needed to remind yourself. I did actually because what I was seeing because what I was seeing bore no resemblance to a

They were definitely the same puppets they used for like ghoulies. They definitely felt like little demons of some sort. You just watch Munchies and it felt like Munchies. The other really weird puppet to me was the baby puppet. Oh, that was the baby from American Sniper. I don't know if you guys knew that, but it goes in the crib.

I was so upset by the way that baby looked. And I know that the movie wanted me to feel nervous about the baby. And I wanted to. But I was like, that baby is scaring me more than that bat. It was very upsetting. It was almost as upsetting as, again, great actor, but Carlos Chacat's haircut. They were like, so you're a CDC scientist. We're going to make you look like Ringo Starr in 1960 fucking age. You are in Hermit's, Hermit's, Hermit's.

Good news. You're in a Herman's Hermits cover band. Your character name is Peter Noon. Your bangs need to be lower. Cover all your eyes. You should look like an old school cartoon character. By the way, though, they gave him a really heroic moment. I mean, that man sacrificed his life. He was a good guy. Yeah. Trying to save, you know, and Dina Meyer, who is in this and is, I can't remember, Dr. What's her name? She.

Sheila is her first name, but Dr. Carter is it? Dr. Casper. Dr. Casper. And nobody is calling her Dr. Casper in this movie. Everybody's like, hey, Sheila, get over here. And they're meanwhile talking to the bad guy. He's like, Dr. What's his name? He's like the bad guy. No, she's Dr. Dr. Warden Norton from Shawshank. There was a lot of...

A lot of Outbreak vibes. In fact, because this movie is only available, I believe, on Freeview, which has ads, I kept toggling over to other tabs to watch clips on YouTube during the ads. And I went down an Outbreak wormhole, and then I went through a J.T. Walsh wormhole. The best. Amazing actor. And then that got me in a Sling Blade wormhole.

And I found out, I watched a video called Five Reasons Why John Ritter Didn't Like Sling Blade. Whoa. Which has to be truthful. Videos on YouTube are always right. They're always the truth. The first reason was he didn't like his haircut. But then the movie had started, so I had to toggle over. I didn't watch the last four. It's not a great story, but it happened. But I don't like that he's so upset. I mean, I like it. For $2.99, I rented the movie and didn't look back.

For $14.99, I bought it because I knew I was going to have to watch it on multiple devices, and I was right. Yeah. Well, it is good. When you watch a movie, you want to watch it the way the filmmaker intended. Like, I went to Hollywood Boulevard to the IMAX to see Oppenheimer. 70 millimeter print. I watched this on a broken iPad on a toilet. And it was like, perfect.

This movie written by John Logan. Right. So I was going to bring this up. John Logan wrote Skyfall, Rango, The Aviator, Gladiator, Alien Covenant, Spectre, Hugo, Sweeney Todd, Last Samurai, Any Given Sunday. Did he write this movie when he was like a little boy? He wrote this movie on a dare. Yeah.

What is wild about this movie, it's one of his first credits, but this movie was produced in just five months. One of the fastest produced 35mm feature films from script to screen to receive a wide release. What's so crazy is it seems as though they spent so much time

I'm on it. They got the script and hired the director in May. Production began in June and July. They shot for 36 days. They edited, including 250 visual effects, scored and mixed in August and September. They cast 3,000 bats. And they released it on 2,540 screens in October. So from May to October... That is fast. That is fast. And they really thought this was going to be big.

To release it that wide, they must have thought, we're sitting on a gun. We got to hurry up, guys. Yeah. Well, I think it's like they need to get out for Halloween. This is a Halloween movie. But I will say, there are moments that creep me out. The movie is not incredibly bloody, but that moment when all the bats are on the car was disgusting.

and it was weird and it was like I gotta say too I love when the bat's coming through and she grabs the cigarette lighter I love that and that's a joke you couldn't do anymore because it canceled culture oh put that clip put that clip of bats can you put that clip of bats I feel great I need to talk to the audience

Is this when you want your spotlight? Let me ask you a question, Bat. What do you think about all this cancel culture? Do you guys deal with that in the Bat world? Because here it's fucking crazy.

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There was another moment I was genuinely creeped out where one of the, I think one of the real big bats, the killer bats, like tapped on someone's shoulder, like a human shoulder. Yeah. Yeah.

It was really... Well, that's... I wish I could read under it. The tiny fingers and hands of the bats are so weird. Like, when that bat is just crawling up the tailpipe, like, chink, it's like John McClane in Die Hard, just like... Here's what I'll say. Yes, we were watching a movie where our heroes are human people who are trying to survive this bat nightmare a la Birds or something like that, but...

But boy, the movie should be about the bats who escape a torture lab where they then are able to exact revenge on their torturer. Their story is the heroic one here. I want to watch only the story of these bats. Maybe they link up with Amy from Congo.

That's the movie. That's the team-up movie. By the way, I just want to shout out Jimmy one more time because Jimmy says a line that I wrote down that I love. He goes... He wrote, Bravo, like they say in the opera. Like, I don't know if you needed to...

It's a comma that like this is Bravo would have worked. But then I was like, oh, is that a dig on Lou Diamond Phillips? OK, sure. But it also felt like he was just doing these jokes for himself. Yeah. And I think he might be a ghost. So can I tell you what I what was my favorite line in this movie? And I'll do my imitation of Lou Diamond Phillips saying it. So when they they're in the cave and the space suits in the mind, whatever the fuck he goes, wait a minute.

If there's this much guano in here, oh, Jesus Christ. By the way, they're in...

A river of shit. A river. Like up to their kneecaps. A river. Up to here. Up to their chest. And we did see the amount of bats that were in that roost. And I have a lot of questions about their digestive systems because like that is still so much. Luckily, Tim is here to answer all of those questions. Do bats just have diarrhea? All the time. Only diarrhea. Man, remember between Ace Ventura and this movie, guano was so hot. Yeah.

Guano was it. It had a moment. And one of the bats is able to unlock Lou Diamond Phillips' space helmet. He takes his helmet off. And it's not as if he's being swarmed by bats and it pops off. A single bat is like, well, here's the line or the whatever, the oxygen line or whatever, and then pops the helmet right off. And Lou Diamond Phillips is then bitten by the bat and then walks through Guano. This guy is dead.

He's dead. He's dead, folks. He's dead. He's got guano in all of those wounds. When the bat's on him and she shoots the bat and then there's like a little explosion and you get the blue lightning bolts that you used to see in 90s movies. And it just made me think

It made me appreciate James Cameron's blue lightning bolts. Sure. And again, I imagine the director being like, I want top of the line blue lightning bolts. I want the James Cameron. And they were like, yeah, for sure. And then like a week into shooting, the line producer was like, hey, we couldn't do that. We have the guy who did the...

fucking garbage pail kids movie. He's going to do the blue lightning and the director's like, fucking fine. I got bigger problems than that. And we do have the costume for Alligator if we need it for anything at all. I laughed so hard. There were a couple moments in that final sequence that really got me good. That one bat woke up and was like... I laughed so hard. And then when our heroes are racing out of the mine...

Those bats, and all of them, are flying after them, but just sort of paced right behind them. They never catch up. And even in the elevator, when they get in the elevator and the bats are just right below them. Just right there. We've all been in a room with a bat. They're the fastest things on earth. That's why when Lou Diamond Phillips takes out his gun in a car, like, what the fuck are you doing?

fuck are you going to do? You're going to kill Dina Meyer. You're going to kill yourself. It's crazy how much people are shooting bats with handguns. With revolvers. With fucking revolvers. I understand. Shotguns, I understand. That's a very wide spread. But for people to be like, bam, bam, bam. Dina Meyer is a doctor of bat-ology. She's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like...

But they're also missing a lot. I'm like, early on, I'm like, you're in Texas. Go to any child's birthday party and get an AK-47. It's there. Machine guns. That's what's going to kill these things. Not a fucking six-shooter, Annie Oakley. Let's go to the crowd. Everybody's given an AR-15.

All right, let's see what we have in the crowd. We have a hand raised right over here. Okay, what do we got here? Sir, your name, your question. Pete, my main question is to talk about the necklace and the idea that she had a necklace, and I forget why it was, but then to put it around the guy that the scientist who saved her

but he just got eaten by the bats and I know it had something to do with the bats but it was a good look she goes this is an ancient Chinese symbol that gave her good luck because bats in Chinese culture are a good omen yes but they killed him yeah right the necklace was the necklace was both not a talisman that protected her and it was a form of mockery by putting it on him

I gotta say, too, I must have, like, been watching, like, a Kitchen Nightmares clip with my other tab, because I have no memory of a necklace in this film. Well, it wasn't as much a necklace as it was, like, a choker. You know, it was, like, a piece of black fabric and a... Well, every man wants to have a choker put on him as he's dying. It looks so cool. I know, I...

She choked him out. Okay, yes. Your name... Oh, I love your shirt. Your name and your question. I'll hold the mic. Wait, what's the shirt? It's Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic Park. Oh, nice. It's great. So, to answer June's question... What's your name? Too much pressure. My name's Matt. Hi. Thank you, Matt. To answer June's question from the beginning, the two jacked bats were like Indonesian fox bats or something, and those were the ones that...

He did science on. And they had a virus. So you're saying, Matt, you're saying that's their normal size? They are large. I guess. But their virus infected the other regular bats. But my question is, when they're doing the montage and boarding up the school, he's like, hey, I contacted the bats. They're coming to get you. And I'm going to rule them and stuff. I forgot about that. How did he do that, Matt? I contacted the bats.

Matt, do you know how he did that? I think he used a bat phone. Can you show Matt out? Thank you for your service, sir. Can Matt be shown out, please? He definitely had...

some back communicator because I think earlier in the movie when the jeep is being attacked all their eyes turn red and they're like, we're out of here. And I think he hit it. By the way, can I just point out some sort of controller or there was going to be some reveal that he was able to communicate with control or something but I never felt like it was laid out for us. I just want to point out

an amazing costume here in the crowd. We have two costumes here. Yeah, look at these costumes. Some bat costumes. Amazing. You can do it. Well, let's do it. Let's see. Try to keep it interesting. Okay, one. So flying foxes are fruit bats. They're adorable when they eat bananas. They look like little flying dogs. They're super cute puppies. And then

He calls them like the ugliest thing in the world. Two, there's a bridge in Austin that's completely been taken over by bats and is now protected by... And I think the bat scientist Merlin Tuttle was the one who kind of got that all underway. What do you mean completely taken over by bats? They are...

No, no, no. June, avoid the bridge. I do have a good tip for you, though. So bats also are one of the primary, they may be the primary pollinator for agave, so if you like tequila, bats. I mean, I thank them for all they do. I don't want to interact with them. They eat insects.

We thank bats for their service. I appreciate them, yes. Whenever I'm in a first class seat and I see a bat, I give him my seat. Let me be clear. And I sit and coach. Let me be clear. I love bats. American bats. American bats. From Austin, Texas. Wow. I do love bats. This is all just stuff I have. This is all the stuff that she had. She loves bats. It can't be bad. Fantastic. So great.

Amazing. And an amazing bat costume. Thank you for both your knowledge and your commitment to the costume. Okay, your name and your question. Hi, I'm Ethan. And my question is, how did a bat know how to take apart a car?

Which they do to the police van. Well, because all bats, they have to learn how to survive. So some, I mean, that's, that was part of it, right? When they were in the lab, the cages were lined with Car and Driver magazine. And they can read, they can't, depends on the bat, they can't read. I will say, the doctor does say, the doctor does say a number of the bats were on an AP track and some of the bats, though, were on a vocational track.

Those are the bats that got him. Do you guys drive cars? Are you guys driving cars? I heard these bats are driving cars. That's wild. Jamie, show me that video of that monkey driving a bicycle. Elon. Elon says the bats are going to be driving these cars. Oh, yeah. Bats are epic. I love my bats. I love bats.

Alright, your name and your question. My name's Evelyn and I want to go back to the necklace because if you know what the necklace means, it's even more cruel and strange that she leaves it on his dead body. So, bat in Chinese is 变福 and 福 means blessing. So her necklace was actually a symbol of the five blessings, which are one, health, two, wealth, three, long life,

Four, love of virtue. And five, peaceful death by natural causes. Oh my God. Incredible. Holy shit. Wow. Wait, was that, Evelyn was that? Yes. Amazing. Give it up for Evelyn. Wow. That was incredible. Wow.

Now, obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. The bats are engineered. A massacre unfolds. Then we see those pop. And we've...

When the pets attack, Gallop was aware. Go to Florida next. I want to mess with Texas or their gun power. But these are bats. You know that they don't care. I see their

It's like an angel sighing. Texas took our choice. Women have no voice. Patriarchy. The movie's wild. God, I give it five stars on Amazon.

That was amazing! Wow! That was amazing! What's your name? Jen! Amazing! Give it up for Jen!

I thought... You guys ready for this? I thought I was setting up Jen. I was like, you know what? I'm going to give Jen a break. I won't have her follow the duet. Now I'm like, oh, man. Good fucking luck, boys. She knew. She knew. She knew. I should have listened. All right. Here we go, guys. Which Madonna song will you guys be doing? So, I'm Mark. Connor. And now it's time for Second Opinions.

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Wow. Please. Great job. All slapping. Just escort them out. Oh, my gosh. Escort them out. Escort them out. Just you guys keep walking straight through the door. All right. So there are 672. I feel like the bats version of shots could chart. Probably could. Yeah.

There are 672 total reviews. 67% are five-star reviews. Let's get into it. Are a lot of the reviewers their last name Diamond Phillips? And Diamond Phillips. I will go on record and say, I thought LDP crushed it. He fucking crushed it. Just crushed it. LDP always crushes. LDP and

Dean and Myra were absolutely everybody was great and most of the time there's really only four people on screen for the most for I'm going to say 85% of the movie there's four people which is crazy plus the jackpots we need an LDP renaissance LDP brought his own cigars he brought his own cigars and improvised the majority of his dialogue thank god

Thank God. What you said checks out because there was a scene early on when he's in the truck with her where the scene is only like 12 seconds long, but he says, uh-huh, five times in like 12 seconds. So yeah, him riffing that, I buy that.

Yeah, I can improvise. I got it. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. I loved when Jimmy said the line about, this place is as tight as the Alamo. And he goes, nah, it's maybe not the best. Maybe not the best comparison. I felt like they all had chemistry. Even with Jimmy the ghost. I mean, even Jimmy says Houston, we have a problem. I do feel like a lot of the movie was improvised.

Well, you have to. I mean, you gotta... Working off these bats, you gotta say something. All right, D3 Mighty Ducks wrote this review. Wait, a movie reviewed another movie? D3 Mighty Ducks is the username... Imagine identifying so much with that that you beat them to the identifying moniker. D3 writes, "'This is a good watch, dot, dot, dot. Better to have it playing on than the background. It's nothing special.'"

Yet, it's special to me. Five starts. Starts. Five starts for something that did a lot in 90 minutes. Five stars. Bats. I just want to go there again. This is a good watch. Dot, dot, dot. Better to have playing on in the background. Five stars. It's nothing special. Dot, dot, dot. Yet special to me. I feel like if the person was allowed to go on, they'd be like, it's terrible.

But to me, it's a collection. I mean, it's okay. It's no Mighty Ducks 3. And then this one is written by Humble Opinion. This is one of my favorite movies. I am into the sci-fi aspect of the bats. The fact that this is possible, that this could happen. And I really like Lou Diamond Phillips.

The picture shows DNA experimentation and combines it with some comedic responses. This has got to be one of the all-time best ooh and yuck movies that doesn't involve sex or human-on-human violence and mutilation. For old-fashioned Bats Gone Wild flick, this is the greatest. Old-fashioned Bats Gone Wild?

I bought those DVDs. I had them all. I bought all the Bats Gone Wild. Old-fashioned Bats Gone Wild. This bat in Panama Beach shows you all eight titties. The ooh and yuck is so funny. And then he goes, the acting is good, but I have to say Leon for contributing actor, which is a term I've never heard before. David Zaslav created that term. Pencils down, Ike. Ah, ah.

The acting is good, but I have to say that Leon, for a contributing actor, is the best. A guy that works with bats, hates bats, and finds humor in the situations, he can't. Five stars. Lou Diamond Phillip rocks. And of course, the bats aren't bad either. Holy shit. And then this one, I'll just end on this one from Anthony Wilkins, who writes...

We got many bats out here in Hervey Bay. Nothing out of the usual. Good film, though. You might have noticed I have some strange tastes. Five stars. It's so interesting because listening... Who does this guy think he is? Listen. Listening to these Amazon five-star reviews, like, it's so crazy to hear their screen names, but honestly, it's even crazier when they just write their names in. Yeah. Like, that's...

So scary. People need to know who I am and what I think about who I am. I feel like that guy has a million reviews and he doesn't watch anything. He's just like, oh yeah, this lawnmower is pretty good. I'm not really a lawnmower guy. I'm kind of into other stuff. You know what I mean? He's just trying to meet people. More of a lawnmower man.

He's trying to get some follow-up questions going. We met at the Amazon Marketplace. He was reviewing a Scrub Daddy, and I was in the market for a new kind of sponge, and I just liked his humor. It was fun. I will read the occasional third opinion, and this one was really good, from Michelle Varenze. Why did you look at us and do that? Because your name is Michelle Varenze. I know who it is. Because June said that she's most weirded out when someone says their full name. I thought June knew Michelle. Oh, sorry.

Everyone is from June, your college roommate, Michelle Ferenczi. So Michelle gives it one star and writes this. Bats are not monsters, and they should not be portrayed as such. Hang on. Are you Michelle? Wait, what was Batgirl? Batgirl? Ma'am, are you Michelle? Batlady. Is your name Michelle Ferenczi? Yes or no? No.

So that is, those are some second opinions. Man, oh man, bats and bats and bats. This was, I mean, I recommend this movie. I thought this movie was very fun in the way that we've watched a lot of bad movies, but there's something joyful about this movie. I feel like everyone was in on the joke. Yes, and that, and plus I feel like every, every,

10 to 15 minutes the movie would become a different movie which so it's constantly being like well what about one of these do you want it to be yeah assault on precinct 13 with bats it can be for about 15 minutes do you it's like it's a bunch of different kinds of movies i'm just excited to know that when i do die hopefully so soon it could be tomorrow morning it could be in 50 years but

As I am dying and I'm saying goodbye to my family, I know I'm going to look at them and go, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats, bats

I mean, compared to a lot of the other movies we're forced to watch, this was genuinely very fun. I thought it was. This is my third time on this podcast. This was by far the best movie. Oh, that's amazing. It has the most solid core. I mean, it did come out in 1999 where the top movies were Star Wars Episode I, Phantom Menace, The Sixth Sense, and Austin Powers. This did actually beat the movie Jack Frost where No Dad is Snow Dad. Yes.

Where the kid says to him, Dad, you're the man. He says, no, I'm the snowman. That's right. I remember that. And it also... And Ike, another character, says, Snow Dad is better than No Dad. It's always true. Always true. Also, I will just comment that in the movie, during the, I will say, epic small town set piece where the whole town gets destroyed, Nosferatu is playing at the movie theater. Yes.

Which I very much enjoyed. Hey, have you noticed that at no point is there more than nine people in a shot together? No. They have no budget for extras. Zero. Crazy. It is crazy. When we talk about John Logan, too, he was a playwright in Chicago for ten years before writing his first screenplay on spec, which was Any Given Sunday, which was released the same year as Bats. Wow. And he was nominated for the Oscars in 2008.

2001, the year, like two years after this for Gladiator, then a couple years after that for Aviator, and then a couple years after that for Hugo. Fuck. Well, you know what happened is he probably sold any given Sunday. Yes. And they're like, this is great. What else you got? And he's like, uh, nothing. I mean, unless you like bats.

I will say this. There was a sequel. Lou Diamond Phillips and Dina Meyer had a five-year contract with Destination Films in case of a possible sequel. The contract expired in 2004, and Bats 2, Human Harvest, began production in 2006. And much to the dismay of the director of Bats 2, who didn't want to spend money on CGI, he found out that all the puppets are missing.

Yeah, I'm so into it. Plus, we got all the puppets in the first movie, so this will be great. All right, day one. Here we go. Here we go. All right, so Lou Diamond, what do I call you? LDP. You're going to walk in, Dina. You're going to walk up here. And how far away are those bats? Are they fighting? We don't got the bats. You don't have the bats? Everyone go home.

At what point in post do you feel like they were like, I think we need to make all the bats sound like the predator? Because there is a point where the bats start to be like. Yeah, at a certain point, because I watched it with subtitles on, obviously. Always. Always. And I think I saw the phrase bats cooing. Yeah. Multiple times.

And they are, that is like, it's increasing throughout the movie. The bats, it's like, the movie wants to be Jaws. The movie wants to be all of these things. But the bats are so, so tiny and so insignificant that they have to make them jacked and give them like a very threatening chitter that they can be like...

But I will say hats off to this movie because they do kill that final bat. They don't give you a sequel possibility. They kill it and they like it. Good. Done. He's over. We did it. We solved the movie. Because once you kill one bat, they're all dead. We all know. There's certainly not a bunch more underneath him. Give it up for Ike Barinholtz, ladies and gentlemen. June Day and Raphael. Jason Manzoukas.

What a show. A big thank you to Ike Barinholtz. And guess what, people? We love doing live shows. We love doing live shows so much that we have put together a very quick, impromptu tour in just a couple of weeks. That's right. On October 18th, we are going to be in Portland, Maine. Then on the 19th, we're going to be in Providence, Rhode Island. Then on the 20th, New Haven, Connecticut. And then on the 21st, we are wrapping it up at Buckeye.

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I would like to promote something that I think is a wonderful, incredible opportunity for people who are in New York. There's a music festival that I've talked about here on the podcast before. It's called Ragas Live. Tickets are available at ragaslive.com. It is an incredible 24-hour music festival that is all Indian classical music and other music from around the world, all at Pioneer Works in Brooklyn, an incredible venue, incredible lineup of musicians, rockers,

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But if you have a correction or omission from this episode, let us know. Go to our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or leave me a voicemail at 619-PAUL-ASK. Then make sure to tune in next week to our Last Looks episode to hear what you had to say about bats. I'll respond to your message. Jason and I will also break down some new listeners submitted. How did this get made? Themes. Plus, there's a bonus scene that I am so excited to play for you because it was really fun. It was hard to cut.

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Bye for now.