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And use the code BONKERS at checkout. Arctic death, Harlem crime, and sunsets. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. Hit the theme! This is your chance, say what you want to say about that horror movie they watched the other day. Well, it made Jason Kajun start on a plane. Paul took notes, now he's taking it away. This is the last look.
For the love of Pete. Hello, my extra long boxer brief buddies. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Absolution, aka The Journey, colon, Absolution. Jason and I chat about some books and podcasts that we're currently loving, and I
I will reveal next week's movie. At the end of the show, I will also share an exclusive bonus scene from our last episode, something that we couldn't keep in, but it's still damn good. But first things first, a big shout out to Quinn for that amazing theme song. Thank you, Quinn. We love these songs. They're fantastic. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, send it to me at howdidthisgetmade at earwolf.com. Keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now,
How'd This Get Made is going on the road. I need you to be prepared. Are you coming out with second opinion songs? Because we need them. New Jersey. I want to see you there for New York Ninja. I want to see New Jersey ask questions about New York.
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Go there, look at it, get your bids in, and let's get into Absolution because Absolution is an interesting film. I mean, I wouldn't even really call it a movie. I would call it like a telemovie. But Danny the Wall on Discord thought the film should have been titled A Few Good Himbos.
Damn, Danny, coming at us with the himbos. I haven't heard that since the 80s. And oddly enough, himbo sounds more aggressive than the word it's replacing. Anyway, we had questions about absolution, but we didn't hear all of your questions. We might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Hit the theme. A poem.
You guys really got it wrong. So I'm going to tell you so. Corrections and omissions.
Great song by the great Francis Rizzo. And, you know, if you've been listening to this show, you know that Francis has sent in so many great themes over the years. And before we get into corrections and omissions, I just wanted to relay a message that Francis left for us on the helpline. See, Francis called in to say that he unfortunately has end stage kidney failure and he is doing everything he can to try to find a match for a kidney transplant. And the more potential donors he can reach, the more
Thank you for all the great themes and we'll see you next time.
And we all here at How Did This Get Made are pulling for you and we hope that you find a donor and we just, we're sending you prayers. Now I recognize that making a transition in this moment might be tough, but I'm just going to have to lean into it and say, let's go to the Discord.
Sean McBee writes, "I'm pretty surprised that no one mentioned at the end our protagonists are left stranded outside in the Arctic while wearing essentially tank tops with the only shelter having just blown up and with no indication that any sort of rescue is coming. They will absolutely freeze to death before the day is out." Sean, holy shit. How did we not pick up on that?
Our heroes are left for dead. I mean,
At least at the end of the thing, at least he was wearing a jacket. Oh, brother. Wow. Wow. Wow. No one questioned that. They should have just put in the sound of a chopper or something. All right. Good eyes, Sean McBee. Danny the Wall writes, was there actually a journey somewhere? I mean, was anything to be absolved? The obvious question remains unanswered. Why is this titled The Journey Absolution?
Danny, these are the simple questions that we missed. I can't believe that we missed these. All right, let's break it down. Absolution. What does absolution mean? A release...
from guilt, obligation, or punishment. I mean, I guess they got released from being under the tyranny of Richard Grieco, but for Mario Lopez, he just got there. But journey, now there is something. Journey is the act of traveling from one place to another. So Mario Lopez did journey to a place where
where he then freed himself from the tyranny of Richard Grieco? Anyway, I'm going to go with that. So I think the title makes perfect sense. GT75 writes, I think part of why it's so hard to figure out the plot of this film is because the protagonist, Mario Lopez, fails everything.
every step of the way. His attempt to find his friend/fellow agent consists of just name dropping him a couple of times. So it's just kind of sheer luck that he gets imprisoned with him. He's reliant fully on Lyles telling him what Richard Grieco's plan is. Then he can't escape without Jamie Presley randomly showing up. So even when he has to save the world from aliens, he doesn't because Grieco's efforts seem to be thwarted by just shoddy craftsmanship in building the portal. Guys!
It really is amazing. It takes so much hard work to make a movie. And then you see these and you wonder, when I get notes on something, I'm like, "Oh yeah, it's a good note," or "Oh, they're overthinking it," or whatever. These movies got made. These are not scripts. How? How? Let's go to the phones. Rachel from Chicago.
Hi, Paul. This is Rachel from Chicago. I'm calling about Absolution. I want to talk about the timer at the end of the movie where Richard Grieco is wrestling with Jamie Presley or something, and they keep cutting between a wide shot.
where you can see the countdown timer and then a close-up shot of it, and they're never the same time. At one point, the wide shot shows eight seconds less, and they show a close-up of the timer, and then it's 13 seconds, and they go back to the wide shot again, and it's eight seconds. So it's just, you know, I don't know what was going on, maybe bad alien technology, but I feel like someone should have caught that. Anyway, love the show. Thanks, Paul. All right.
They couldn't even fix it. That's something you can actually do in post. They probably just have a close-up of the stopwatch, the watch, whatever, and they can do that in post. You don't have to do that live. Why is that so dumb? That's an editor mistake there. I bet you editors are mad for this person. Kick them out of the editing guild, whoever this person is. All right, let's go to Sam from Tennessee.
Hey, Paul. This is Chance from Tennessee. Listening to the episode about absolution, the only thing that comes to mind when y'all are describing that sick thing and the underwear is the Mormons. They're not moving because they're just soaking. They have their big, dumpy underwear on because that's the magic underwear. So there you go. They're just soaking. They needed somebody to rock the bed for them so they could move. Please don't.
I don't want to talk about soaking. I don't like soaking. One of my favorite, I listened to the Pat Bev podcast with Roan. I love Pat Bev. And Roan explaining soaking to Pat Bev is pretty amazing. Here, actually, take a listen to him tell you what soaking is because I don't even want to get into it. You know what soaking is? Soaking? Yeah. Like if I was to...
Dude, I don't think you do know what it is. Can I guess? Do you want to? I don't have a problem embarrassing myself. Okay, guess, guess. If I'm soaking like in the bathtub, soaking in my own tears. Dude, it's a thing that's specific to Utah. And it's a thing that goes on at like BYU and Mormon schools where they're not allowed to have premarital sex.
And so what they do is the guy kind of takes the car and parks it in the garage and just lets it idle there. And it just sits there. I don't understand what you mean. Cause you kind of tell it to me like I'm a three-year-old. He, a guy, a guy puts his, you know what I mean? Well, I don't. His, his dick in there and just leaves it there. And it just, so he just leaves it there to soak. And it's the thing that goes on in Utah. I didn't know that. Yeah.
Yeah, dude, that's a real thing, dude. I did a video on it. Soaking. Soaking. So you meet a nice young lady. Hey, I like you. Let's soak. Yeah. Do they move around or like? They'll have their friends either jump up and down on the bed. Or I talked to people who said that they'll have two mattresses standing up and their friends will wave them back and forth. But they're not doing the action. Moving, right. So they're the ones that are just soaking there. Has anyone ever got pregnant? No.
I'm sure they have. I'm sure they have. Isn't that wild, dude? We didn't have sex. Yeah, exactly. They could be like, in the eyes of God, I'm still a virgin. Thank you, Roan. Thank you, Pat Bev. And there you go. All right. Finally, Morgan from Chicago. What do we got, Morgan?
Hey, Paul. This is Morgan in Chicago. I was just calling with a little thing about absolution or, I guess, the journey absolution. So at a minute or at an hour and 29 minutes and 40 seconds, about that time, the scene where Mario Lopez and Janie Priestley are running away from the explosion is
If you look at the very bottom of the screen, you'll notice that the track marks in the snow are already laid down and then as they're running
On the snow, it, like, fills in the track marks almost like they had reversed the footage. But they're very clearly running towards us. So I'm really not too sure what's happening there. I just wanted to get your thoughts and see if you had any idea what was going on there. All right. Cool. Thanks, Paul. Bye. Okay. So...
Here's the thing. We did delete a portion of the show where we did talk about the snow. I thought it was like potato in a box kind of shavings. But Scott, our producer, he thinks the footprints were already there due to earlier takes and they shot them and just kind of too lazy to smooth over the footprints after every take. And honestly, it's not like they're like disappearing as they run over them. It's just like the clouds of dust disappearing.
of whatever that is, if it's flour or something. Look, shoddy filmmaking is the answer. That's all. I mean, if you were to tie all these questions together, the answer would be, oh, because of shoddy filmmaking. Back to the Discord, Rocket Wesker writes, during the final showdown, Grieco activated the teleporter to escape from Earth? Why didn't he just use the teleporter to send his people to Earth, overwhelming Mario Lopez with the alien army and starting the invasion? I mean, that would solve
all of Grieco's problems. But by doing the opposite, he would have taken Jamie Presley to his dying home planet and left the only device that can transport the alien army to Earth for the humans to destroy. Oh, my God. First of all, Rocket Wesker.
Again, good eyes. I didn't even get that his planet was dying. And yes, they should be coming through. I thought maybe it was a transference. Like he needed some human DNA to go back there. It was like E.T. needed to bring a plant. Did E.T. need to bring a plant back to his planet or his planet? I think his planet was doing fine. I think in the book or like a sequel, his planet was dying. But that's just that. I mean, technically, it's fan fiction. Why do I know about E.T. fan fiction? I don't even think it's E.T. fan fiction. I think I read a book that Steven Spielberg, like I said, was officially an E.T. sequel and
Why do I know so much about it? I mean, because it's a great movie. It's a solid movie. I'll tell you, E.T., don't knock it. I didn't watch it for years. I rewatched it. It's fucking good. I mean, everything Steven Spielberg makes is like the worst. Spielberg is really good. Like I rewatched Crystal Skull and maybe it's just years of being battered by...
these, you know, new sequels and new people and bad CGI that it didn't hit me as hard this time. I mean, the first 40 minutes are pretty good. There are some things that are bad. I talk about this a little bit on my letterbox, but Shia LaBeouf, just for Shia, he's good in that. He is actually good. The CGI is terrible. Like, why would they take an Indiana Jones movie and then like really just put it on green screens? It's so schlocky. And I think that that's what they were going for. Anyway,
In that movie, which is bad, but not as bad as I remember it, it's still really good. Spielberg, on the movies that you don't love, still have great sequences. And I would say the first 40 minutes is pretty flawless in that one. Okay.
Spoonrise writes, just a brief correction to the Olive Garden guerrilla marketing team. Contrary to Sinclair shouting out, you can't get that dressing. It's a secret. In what was no doubt a yes and an heightening fugue state, you actually can buy the Olive Garden salad dressing at Costco. Okay, wow. Hashtag make salads unhealthy somehow. Hashtag MSUS. Okay.
Yes, to Olive Garden. Sneak it in here ad-free. Oh, my gosh. Well, I'm going to go to—I'm a Costco member. I'm going to go there and buy that salad dressing. It's good. Okay, and lastly, this is something that was important. In our last Corrections on Omissions, I told Dr. Guts, 1003, he was incorrect for suggesting that there still should have been sunlight out when Jane Lynch leaves her house around 9, 9.30 p.m. And I said, fact-check me.
people, make sure I'm right. And by the way, I've been actually watching this. I was on vacation. I was watching this. But anyway, Corgi Herder stepped up to the plate with actual real facts. Corgi Herder writes, this is for Paul in a sunlight question. Your latitude or how close you are to the equator changes when the sun sets. This is due to the axial tilt. The earth doesn't spin perfectly up
There we go. Now look.
So many great corrections and omissions. Do I want to give it to Corgi Herder for proving me right? Of course I do. I want to say you're the winner this week, but technically it's not a correction and omission for this week's movie. But let me tell you, you have my vote. Then I want to go to Spoonrise because you snuck in a little ad for Costco and Olive Garden. But the truth is, the real truth is there are so many great questions here. So many things going on. But to me,
I really believe that Sean McBee asked the question that was the most obvious question that no one answered. How are these people going to survive in the Arctic? And you know what, Sean McBee, you are the winner and you get this amazing song from Francis Day. Hit it! Let's go.
All right, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or maybe a new title for a movie that we do, every week we're going to pull one of those from the Discord. You can go to our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call us at 619-Paul-Ask. Now, coming up, Jason and I are going to chat about all the things that we are currently into. We're going to reveal next week's movie. And at the end of the show, I will share an exclusive deleted scene from our Absolution episode. So stick around.
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let's get into Just Chat. We're going to do Just Chat a little bit differently. We do want you guys to be calling us at 619-Paul-Asked because as long as the strike goes on, we're not going to be talking about streamers. We're not going to be promoting different things. We're going to try to keep it off center. So we want to hear your questions. We want to get into your piece of advice. So Jason and I will be diving into that a little bit more. Just wanted to give you a heads up. The phone lines are open. They're always open. But now,
With that out of the way, let's get into Just Chattin'. Seth Chatfield, take it away. Just Chat.
Jason, I saw you recently just got back from Washington, D.C., doing some improv. Yes, Paul. I was at the Kennedy Center where I was doing an improv show. I was meant to do a week's worth of shows. And on night three, I got fired.
COVID again on the road and was again, once again, stuck in a hotel with COVID for a week. Just out of my entire mind. Now, wait, let me ask you a question about this. Were there any babies in that Kennedy Center audience? Only the baby that is Anthony Atamanek, who fully gave me COVID. I know it perfectly.
I know because he was sick. He was sick. And then the next day he was out with COVID. Then the next day, Neil Casey was out with COVID. And then the next day I got COVID. So between the two of those guys who I was doing shows with, that's got to be how I got it. Or we were all exposed at the same time. And I just was the last person who developed the symptomatic case of it. Well, I have to say that I'm glad that.
that you got COVID before we go out on the road for how did this get made. I feel like I'm not... Yes, that was the only silver line, was that I can now be pretty carefree on this tour we have. Right, just to be a little... It's a quick tour. We'll be out there next week. Make sure you get your tickets. Tickets are still available. We're almost sold out everywhere. We have a surprise coming to you the first night in Boston, which we won't tell you yet. And we also have a surprise coming to you in New Jersey, we think. We think. But...
That's a maybe. We'll see. That's a maybe. I will say, though, when you talk about Anthony Atomic, I think about his brand new podcast, which I don't know if you've heard it yet. I have. I've only heard one episode. I heard the John Gemberling episode, which is fantastic. I did an episode, too. I did his first episode. We recorded it a while ago. And the whole idea is how would you survive...
something insane. Our premise was... Something that you fear. Something that you fear, what if it came true? Right. So ours was, well, mine was not positioned to me like that. I was just given...
What would you do if your car skidded off into the road and into like a river or a body of water? What would you do? And we, and he was testing me on what I thought I would do. And we had a great conversation about it so much so that after our conversation, I did buy one of those window breakers, which I have already in my car. I already have one in my car, but this one goes around my visor because I was realizing, oh, my window breaker is low. Oh,
I have to go dig for it. This would be really smart. I would want one to cut my seatbelt and break the window right by my head.
I now travel with one. Wow. So I have one in my little kit that has like a little tiny roll of duct tape, a little, like I've got one of those now just so if I'm in a rental car, I have one of those things. That's probably even smarter. Because, yes, because I don't know when this shit's going to go down. So I know, I'll bring you one because I have extras. I bought like five of them. And you can get that through airport security. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I tried to bring some hot sauce back.
I was so bummed. Jason, I got to tell you, I went on this...
I went on this trip with, I think you know her, June, my wife. And we were on this small island in the West Indies. It was an amazing trip. The hotel that we were staying at is known for their hot sauce. This chef at the hotel makes her own hot sauce. And you can order it, whatever. It has become a bigger thing. Yes, it's a thing. But I was there. The hot sauce is great. I bought a small bottle of her hot sauce. So happy to have it.
Now, coming back from the West Indies, you have to go through Miami, or we did, and then get another flight to go to wherever you're going. What happened was our flight got delayed. So I got it after I went through security. So I bought the hot sauce at the duty-free shop because I was like, I'm going to get this. This is great. But then...
I had to go back through security and they confiscated my fucking hot sauce. I was so bummed. I was halfway there. That's infuriating. They did it.
In the place where you have to reenter the airport via, like, when you go through customs, you go get your bags, and then you have, like, exit to the outside world or exit back to the airport to get a connecting flight. And when you go back to the airport, you have to still go through the security machines. So I had not left an airport, but yet it was confiscated successfully.
And I was trying to explain to them, but I was like, but I bought it at the duty-free shop. That's the whole idea. In the airport. I'm still in the airport. No. It was really frustrating. It was really frustrating. That's maddening. I hate when they basically don't play by the rules.
You know what I mean? It's like, listen, I'm doing this the way you want me to. I bought it in the duty-free store after I did it, and you're telling me that your system now can strip this away from me? That seems like some sort of racketeering. You know, like, that seems like a boondoggle. You want that hot sauce. Like, you're getting... It was hilarious, though, because I couldn't... You know, I'm a pretty good traveler, and I couldn't figure out why my bag was being stopped. And they're like, you have liquid in there. Yeah. And I was like...
It's hot sauce. And to tell someone I have hot sauce in my bag, I mean, I know Hillary Clinton says it all the time and says Beyonce, but besides the two of them, it did feel like the best thing to say that, no, no, no, that's hot sauce. I did...
Guys, no, don't worry, guys. It's just hot sauce. And I'll tell you one other thing that I hated about this travel day that was so upsetting. Our connecting flight to get us from Miami back to where we needed to go sat on the tarmac for two hours without air conditioning. Yeah. That happened to me trying to leave D.C. And the woman next to me ate three hot dogs.
No! Three Nathan hot dogs. No, Paul, no. And she was an older lady. That's not allowed. And I was like, no, no, no. And I was just trying to be kind because she was older and I wanted to just be sweet. But three...
So for the rest of the plane, was she just ripping farts? It never went away. The smell never dissipated. And then here's insult to injury. I was like, at least I'll be home soon. After two hours of being on the tarmac, we get this voice over the intercom. Attention, ladies and gentlemen. So due to FAA regulations, we've reached our 12-hour shift, so we have to go back to the airport now and...
We're going to delay this flight. No. We were on the tarmac. That's... We got to go back. I hate that. And they... That's... Come on now. We went back. No. We went back. That's a hard no. I was interested. I said, oh, is there a travel voucher for food or something?
They said, no, flight's not canceled. It's just delayed. It's like, so my eight o'clock flight, which now it's 1230 at night is delayed until seven in the morning. So for like, yeah, you only get a food voucher if it's canceled. So I was like, so I got to fend for myself for this next seven hours. And then that flight was then pushed from 930 then to 1230. What? What?
What? So did you have to stay in the airport that whole time? No, no, no. I'm with my wife. My wife was like, I said, oh, we can manage seven hours. I mean, it's not going to be that big. Because if we get to the hotel, by the time we check in, it's going to be like 1, 1.30. Then we're going to have to leave at like 5. We should just stay in the airport. She's like, I want a hotel. And I was like, okay. You know, I can't argue with that.
And she was right. She was right. It was better to be in a hotel for a few hours than just be uncomfortably laying somewhere in a Miami airport. Ugh, boy. Anyway...
I did get to do some good reading while I was on my trip, and I... Oh, yeah? What'd you read? Oh, my gosh. I read this book called Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead. Okay, sure. He won the Pulitzer for the Underground Railroad, and this is his crime novel. I think you would actually love it. Yep. Okay. It is a fact-based fiction. It's about a small furniture dealer in Harlem in the 50s and 60s, and he kind of has...
a toe in crime. Not that he commits crimes, but he...
interacts with elements or like... Sure. It's a little shady, but it's... The book is three short stories of capers that this guy is involved in. And the new book just came out this week. It's about him trying to get Jackson 5 tickets for his daughter. Wait, same character? It's another installment of this character? Oh, cool. Okay, great. Yeah, so... And he's written a ton of books, Colson Whitehead. This is the first time, I believe...
He's revisited a character. Oh, that's great. This is his Bosch. This is his Bosch. Yes, exactly. And the new one is called Crook Manifesto. Great. I just got that. I'll get both of these. Oh, that's a great record. But Harlem Shuffle is very akin to the stuff we talk about with Ed Brubaker and stuff. It's a real... Yeah. I don't know. I just love the tone and the style of it. He's a great writer. Oh, that's great. Oh, I like that.
I was going to recommend a book to you that I was listening to and really enjoying only to look at it and see that you had blurbed it, which is the Last Action Heroes book. Dude, this is the book I've been loving. Yes.
You are blurbed on the book, right? Yes, I am. Because I was like, oh, I got to tell Paul about this book because I'm listening to the audio book and I looked it up on Audible to make sure I knew all the information. And you're first up on like the quotes list. And I was like, oh, she already knows about this. I love this book. I heard about it from, I'll give props to the Action Boys podcast. Which I gave them the rec to them.
Yep. Great. So they've been listening to it and talking about it on their podcast. So I started listening to it. And it is a fantastic peek behind the curtain of the 80s and 90s Hollywood action boom. It starts with Stallone and Schwarzenegger and goes all the way through the end of Seagal. Steven Seagal. It's so fun. The stories are...
so fucking funny and it's written in such a conversational way like I actually found myself slowing down reading it because I just enjoyed it so much I was like oh these are fun I just want to like but like listening to Chuck Norris and I bought I bought a Chuck Norris movie I bought Code of Silence because I wanted to like because of this oh that's funny
It's great. You know, I'm really enjoying it. It's also a very good audio book. Bronson Pinchot reads the audio book. And it's very digestible. Great, you know, behind the scenes stories of the makings of...
movies that we've talked about on this podcast, but then also, like, all these movies that are so baked into, like, our life. You know, all these, from the Jean-Claude Van Dams to, like we said, Schwarzenegger and Dolph Lundgren and Seagal and Chuck Norris, all of them. It really is interesting because you get, like, I actually have such an appreciation for Lundgren now. I mean, I've always, I think he is, I don't know, I think that people have no ego about it besides Stallone. Surprise, surprise. Yeah. So everyone talks pretty openly. I will tell you that... Yeah.
Another kind of behind-the-scenes podcast like this that I think you and I both love, which now has kind of become a little bit more ensconced as an official podcast, is the Light the Fuse podcast, which is these two guys, great guys, basically tackle all the Mission Impossible movies. Oh, wow. And they go, oh, Jason, Jason.
Let me open your mind to this. They've done like 300 episodes on the Mission Impossible movies. What? And, oh. Light the fuse, you're saying? Light the fuse. They've now become the official podcast of Mission Impossible. Oh, okay. Got it. But it is basically these two guys who...
Love. Love Mission Impossible. It's Drew Taylor, who is a reporter for The Wrap. He wrote for New York Times, Vulture, Vanity Fair, The Playlist, Collider, so we know him. Charles Hood, who is a writer-director who co-wrote Night Owls. You know, he's great, right? So two guys who just love...
Yeah. They go in exacting detail. They will interview everybody from special effects coordinators to people who wrote scripts who weren't credited on the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They go deep on everyone and you hear these amazing,
Amazing stories. Wow. And they get Chris McQuarrie on there, which, by the way, if you're a fan, Empire podcast just released. Yeah, I've listened to the Empire podcast. Did you listen to the brand new one? No, I haven't, because I still haven't seen the movie. Oh, okay, okay. Well, then I won't spoil it. But I will. I will just say, if you are a Mission Impossible fan, I just recently watched them. These guys are fantastic. They're a little independent podcast. That now is kind of getting a lot more attention, but they...
They go deep in a way that just because they are critics and filmmakers, they uncover things in such a great way. I love it. You have to dig for some of the old episodes now, but you can. They're still out there. I'll check that out. Oh, that sounds great. Excellent.
I'll throw in a couple of other podcasts just since we're talking about podcasts. I've been listening to a bunch of pretty good music podcasts. Like I love Dissect and Song Exploder. Yeah. Cocaine and Rhinestones. But a couple of, and I've mentioned Objective Sound before, which is great. But there's one called One by Willie. What?
Okay. That every episode is about, is people talking about Willie Nelson songs or other, other songs that are impactful, but through the, through a Willie Nelson lens. Also a, an, a podcast called strong songs is a guy who like breaks down all of the kind of,
theory and lyrics behind a single song and talks about it and deconstructs it. And it's, and it's so far a great, I've only listened to a handful of episodes. One of which was about Joni Mitchell's help me. Um, so it was great to hear his talks about all the musicians who were on it. And then he himself is a musician. So he'll break down like the guitar line or the, why this interesting drum beat is why, you know, it's very, it's, it's both a technical, but also like, uh,
really interesting examination of an entire song for an episode. And they're a blast. Oh, I love that. And, you know, we talked about Joni Mitchell for a long time on one of the last last looks we did. And that album from the Newport Festival finally has been released like a remastered or just a mastered version. Not so you have to watch it on YouTube, which I am excited about. But as you and I shared, more excited to see the one that we went to.
Oh my God. I'm so excited for that. I will also shout out. You were also on a podcast that I've been listening to a lot lately, which is the Raj tapes, which is Ben Rogers is Ben Rogers from the action boys, lower decks, writer, old UCB guy, really funny, super funny dude has a great podcast, a really great podcast where it is a, it's a, I was going to say he, he drives around with
with a van full of movies that you've never really seen that you can't get anywhere. Yep, like unique, one-of-a-kind movies. Yes, and you have to watch it. And invite people to come and talk. And it's a movie. If you like this show, I think you will love it.
The Raj tapes. And that's R-O-D-G-E tapes. And he's got great guests, but he also, it's funny, but it's also like in the inside baseball world of like the Quentin Tarantino podcast, you know, video archives. These are movies that you don't know about. And I think it will make you just be searching eBay up at night to try to find all these movies. He's turning you on to stuff that's really good. I'll also throw out Drifting Off with Joe Parra.
Joe Perez podcast is absolutely stunning. So far, only six episodes, but every one of them a home run. Can't recommend it enough.
What I was going to ask you about as well was, you know, obviously we are on strike right now as actors and writers. I've been involved with this organization that I helped found called Tusk, which is a union solidarity coalition. And we have done some events. We raised like one hundred ninety five thousand dollars in one of our events. And now we're doing this celebrity auction, which is ridiculous.
Really fun. We have two. We're wrapping up one and we're going off and doing another one as well. But you can do really fun stuff like I will pick your fantasy draft order. Brett Gelman will eat corn dogs with you. Oh, my God. June will take a hike with you. Just to take a hike.
Incredible. You can have lunch with Justin Halpern, who is the showrunner of Abbott Elementary and the co-creator of Harley Quinn. There are just great packages in there. But the one that is really fun, if you're a Woody Harrelson fan and you like to smoke, you can just smoke weed with Woody.
Amazing. You can hang out at his dispensary for an hour and just, you know, get it done. Also, Broad City's dress and stuff. If you go to Tusk Together, that's T-U-S-C together dot com, you just go to the auction. You can see what you got going on. And like I said, that auction's ending in a little bit. And then we're starting even a bigger auction with, I mean, Jason,
Meg Gyllenhaal is going to be doing a zoom with somebody. Wow. Just, just, and I've been talking with her. She'll talk to you about anything. And you got like weird Al Yankovic and Daniel Radcliffe signing shirts. We got exclusive. The two weird Al's. The two Al's. My two favorite. They can call me Al's. Oh my gosh. I got to remake that video. Uh, that would be funny. Uh, and, and oddly late. Uh,
So, yeah, but I mean, that's what I've been up to. That's incredible. I want to bid on some of these things. Yeah, there's some cool stuff. The one that I helped put together that I love is... I'm a big fan of Chelsea Devantez's Celebrity Book Club, where she only talks about celebrity autobiographies. It's a great podcast, because I read a lot of those. And what I did was...
I reached out to so many of our friends from Tig Notaro to Danny Pellegrino, John Bowie, Whitney Cummings, Mindy Kaling, Jesse Klein, Sarah Silverman, Betty Gilpin, Brian Lee O'Malley, so many people, Casey Wilson, and had them autograph their books. So you're going to get like 12 autographed books and you're going to get a year subscription to her podcast, which is, I just love it. I think it's a great gift. Yeah. Start your little celebrity library. Okay.
I love that. That's incredible. So fun stuff all around. And you signed all of them? I signed them all. Yeah, smart. The funniest thing is like, I asked Judy Greer, I said, Judy, can you sign a book? And she's like, sure. And then she wrote back to me. She's like, Paul, I don't,
can't find my book. Oh, that's so funny. I did was she got a copy of Kathleen Turner's book, signed it and put a $20 gift card in there for Starbucks. Oh, that's really funny. That's very funny. I love that. It's really great. I really love it. Yeah.
And I'm going to just shout out as this trip was a hellish nightmare. I will be so happy. And I was so happy to have my Tom bin bag, my big bag, my like the one that doesn't have that. Oh, no, this is like, it only has pockets at the top. Uh,
I don't know. It's a shadow guide pack is my guess. Okay. Yeah. It's a bucket with a lid at the top. Yes. Yes. Shadow guide pack. Okay. And that's where I forget the names of these things. But I got to tell you, that thing came in so handy because. That's my main backpack when I'm shopping. That's a beast. Because it holds a lot. I miss the pockets. But then doing your job, which is I get the little pouches.
And then you're good again. Oh, yeah. Got to get your pouches going. You got to get your pouch game going. I use the thing that you gave me for my birthday, a little mini packer. And I put all my electronics in there perfectly. That's great. Perfect. Oh, nothing makes me happy. Thank goodness to Tom Bin for that. Because I felt like I never was overwhelmed. Because I was trying to travel light. June made fun of me my entire trip because I travel with
too small of a carry-on like she travels with this monster beast and i'm always like i can't fit anything in my carry you mean the roller bag or your backpack my roller bag and uh and she and when she finally saw it she's like that's way too small i go it's regulation she's like you don't have to do regulation oh and uh yeah so uh yeah so i i i'm learning i'm learning how to get a roller bag but that uh i have a small version of an away bag that was not uh it was very tough
Oh, yeah. The small version of those, which is basically the regular in Europe and some other countries, that's the only size, is the small bag. That's all you can take on a plane. Yeah. It's only really here domestically that you can have the cabin plus or whatever it's called. Yeah. It's a little bit bigger. Yeah. Otherwise, they're going to make you check it. So big. Your bag is so big. Yeah.
She's all excited about it. I can fit everything in this bag. I'm like, yeah, because it's a fucking full suitcase. That's why I can fit everything in. Yeah, it's too much. Too heavy. All right. Well, Jason, great to chat with you. We'll be back. We're going to be on tour. Can't wait, Paul. Can't wait. Head out to howdidthisgetmade.com, hdtgm.com to see the movies that we're doing. Come see us. We're traveling around on the East Coast. We're not going far. You could go see two shows in Boston. Get on a train. Go see two shows in New York. Get on another...
train, go see us in Philly. We're a train tour. These are... You could travel with us like you are following the day. Amen. On this one. Or a fish. Because these shows are close to each other. So, you know, get tickets. Get tickets for multiple cities. Check them out. Come on, everybody. Come out and see us. And I'll tell you this much. I'm aware that people might do that, so I am actually trying to keep it a little bit different. People can see different things every night. So...
And I have heard and have it on good authority that the air conditioning at the Chevalier is not working. That's what we needed to hear. All right. That's the info that I've been waiting to hear. All right, everybody. We will see you next time. Thanks for joining me, Jason. This is Just Chat.
Now that we got Absolution out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. Oh boy, this is great. We're going from a sci-fi flop to an Al Pacino cop. That's right. Next week we are watching the 2017 crime mystery Hangman.
starring Al Pacino, Carl Urban, and Brittany Snow. Boy, you're in for a treat. A short breakdown of the plot is simply this. A homicide detective brings his partner out of retirement to help catch a serial killer whose crimes are based on, you guess it, the children's game, Hangman. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 4% score on the Tomatometer. And Craig D. Lindsay from The Village Voice says, you may
not take a single frame of this movie seriously, especially whenever Pacino is shuffling around, waving a gun, and talking like he's desperately in need of a mint julep. Oh, people, listen to this trailer. We're not going to let you down. We got a serial killer. Have you noticed anything out of the ordinary? There's a letter called Greenhouse Just Game of Hunting. Attitude!
He's killed four people in four days, one every 24 hours. He doesn't stop. That's part of the game. Catch him by the game board. He's going to kill seven more people. Because of me, this whole game is taking place. We're going to find this guy. All right. We are almost to the end of this episode. But before we go, check out this bonus scene from our Absolution show where we answer a couple of extra audience questions.
All right, so your name for best Pete's sake and your question. Okay, my name is Christy for Pete's sake. Oh, I like it. I'm surprised that you guys didn't clock that, and maybe it's only listed on IMDB, it's not actually in the movie, that Mario Lopez's character's full name is Ryan Murphy. Yes, I actually have a picture of that. His name is Ryan Murphy. When he signs in, it's Ryan Murphy. Okay.
I did clock it, actually. I just haven't shared it. I thought we really left her out in the cold for that one. I thought that was a... I thought it was Ryan Murphy. All right, your name and your best Pete's sake and your question. My name's Mike. For the love of Pete! Right. My question is, do you think that the casting director thought that the Christian from Clueless...
Would be a perfect military man. You know, I was wondering where he was from and I didn't Google it, but yeah, Christian from Clueless. Christian from Clueless. Who does he play in Clueless? Oh, that's Dallas? Okay. Yeah, the one who like loves, yeah. Oh, of course. So he's gay in Clueless and she initially has her crush on him, right?
He's wonderful. He's great. He's great. I did like him in this. I liked him a lot. I mean, I don't think he's Z-team material. Well, he dies on the wheel. I mean, what I will say about this movie, too, and I always feel this as someone who is not a cut, you know, ab-centric person. Paul, don't talk about yourself that way. Come on, Paul. You take care of me. Yeah, you take care. You take care.
What are you talking about? Don't get me wrong. What is the nature of this relationship? Come on, you take such good care of her. Don't get me wrong. I take care of my body. I enjoy my body. But I'll tell you this. I always feel for the two or three people who are a little bit more deep background who aren't as cut. And it's always like, cut, cut, cut. And this one guy is like, hi. Even if...
That person's in good shape. You don't look like you just, there's this, I noticed you. It was hard. It's upsetting. It's like, and there's that one guy who really like in that standing room, he's like, belly is out a little bit more. I did notice. Well, he also had kind of a farmer's tan. Yes. You know, I'd love to give him a little spray tan. Think about it. Yeah. How? They make a point to say the sun doesn't come out. What? What?
Okay, so when I, when Jessica and I said we are in bad, we are, this movie put us in bad moods, I really think it was also because there's not any natural light in the movie. Yes. Yes! And to spend, I started to feel crazy. I was like, get me out of this bunker. It's all overheads. All fluorescents. It felt, it gave me a headache. Me too. Maybe also just the fact that it was shot on videotape.
Yeah. Well, no, I feel like it was shot like on the stages next door to Saved by the Bell. I felt like Mario was like, shit, I gotta go do a sex scene. I'll be right back. Yeah. Yeah. Star Wars.
He was like doing Mr. Miyagi wax on, wax off style. So good. Thank you for coming out to Largo. We'll see you on the How Did This Get Made summer tour. It's this week, people. Come out. Come out with your second opinions. Come out with your questions. We cannot wait. Come out in costume.
Come out in costume. All right, anyway, remember, if you like the show, rate, review it, tell your friends about it. If you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us. I don't mean to shout, but I am. Visit us on social media at HDTGM. A big thank you to our producers, Scott Sani and Molly Reynolds, our movie-picking producer, Averill Halley, our engineers, Casey Holford and Rich Garcia, and Jess Cisneros, who makes our amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for Hangman! Hangman!