175: A Thing For Dinosaurs (with Derek Waters and Zach Shields)
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with a special one so we've got a special start we're in studio studio

Which is new. It's the first time you and I have ever been in studio together. In this studio. Yeah. Yeah. I thought we would have more of a pop, but it feels like it's over. Yeah. How do you feel about it? Good. Yeah. How about you? Good. Good to see you, man. You too. We saw each other this morning on Zoom. Still.

But since then and now, you've permed your hair. Wrong. He does. He's got hair like yours, but when we do these, because we used to be on YouTube, he started perming his hair. It's not true. It looks good. Thank you, Derek. It's a lie, by the way. But imagine your hair like this one day, and then one day it looking like that. And then he gets surprised when I comment on it.

No, I mean, it's been over a year that I've been putting curling cream in my hair. Yeah, so Zach obviously gets it. Can I pay you to do the curling cream and next time you come on? Yeah, I'll do it. Great. Okay, great. That's how I did on Drunk History. You need to look younger. Just curl my hair. Is this a real thing? Yeah, that was like a go-to thing. They told you you needed to look younger? Well.

Well, they would just say, like, we'll just curl your hair. See, that's what happens, Jake. You don't understand. See, Jake, you're not... Is this real life? Yeah, that was a real thing they would do on the show. You would curl your hair? I wouldn't. They would curl it for me. It's amazing for Comedy Central to have that. They have a curling iron? Yes. I don't know. This is new information. This is shocking. No, how would they curl it? This is shocking. You just put, like, a curling iron, like, in my hair and put curls on. I got pictures. I got pictures.

Did you feel like it made you look younger? Like in the reenactments. Oh, I thought you meant when you were as a character. As a character. Yeah, okay. That's so different. I'm sorry. I thought you meant when you were hosting. No. Hey, I had no idea. So this is not a character. But it was a thing that I was like, oh, he should look younger.

He's playing like a kid in his 20s. He's licking a lollipop with a pinwheel hat. Yeah, and by the way, I'm playing in my 20s on a podcast. It looks great. Thank you, Darren. That is the character of Gareth. It's the second half of my life I'm going to be playing young me. Sorry. My favorite thing was Eric Edelstein for years.

would go, and this was all the way up until a year and a half ago, and he's my age, so he's 46 or 47. He would go, man, I can't wait till I can start playing young dad.

He goes, once I started getting auditions as young dad and I had to finally say, hey man, mid 40s, take away young. Just dab, my man. No, they never cast you as young dad. But it ain't young. And he was like, man, he's like the young dad era. And I'm like, look at us. We're going to crush during the young dad era, buddy. Young dad is 17. It's not,

these two old men sitting in a restaurant having lunch. I don't know. Will they buy that I have a child? Oh, yeah. Yeah, they will. They'll buy that you have a grandkid, my man. So we got Zach Shields and we've got Derek Waters. Oh,

Hello. And we're very excited to have you guys. Thank you. Zach was in the band Dead Man's Bones. Yes, sir. Did I say that correctly? Perfectly. Kind of, but I almost said bone. No, I mean, you gave it a lot, but it was nice. Yeah, but I blew it at the end. Do you know what I got nervous? I got nine out of ten nervous. It happens. It does. Yeah. We got a special intro. Zach and Derek and I have been working on an idea, which I'm very excited about.

It's a documentary that Zach first came to Derek on. Is this correct? We're excited, and we are asking the audience...

Are we here to help audience for potential submissions if you want to be in this doc? Derek obviously created Drunk History, but don't think of Drunk History. We're not going to get you drunk. But we are looking for a subject, and we're going to give you an email if you are interested. If you're not interested, then enjoy the doc when it's finished. But do you guys want to talk a little bit about what this project is going to be? Sure. Sure.

We, well, without giving too much away. Yes, we're not going to spoil much. No. We're looking for beefs. Yes. We're looking for grudges. Yes. Unresolved issues. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. I just want to cut you off and tell you to keep going. Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. Stop, now go. Something that you can't resolve on your own. Yes. You need a little bit of help. Nothing too serious. Nothing's going to end up in court. No. Mm-hmm.

We don't want anything like that. We're talking about stolen muffin recipes. Yes. Small town dramas. Why won't that stop sign be put up there? Yes. Problems that would work for our show is why I connected it to this in the intro. Now, the difference is what we would need for this is we need a very clear antagonist. Yes. So a lot of our show is we're just helping the one person.

We would need to know who the other person is if they would be interested in being involved. But we don't want you two guys being friends. This is not like two college roommates. We want that beef to be significant enough that you're not really talking. Even though it's not serious in that the problem is small.

The issue is pretty big, and it's at the point where you two are not going to family events, not doing whatever, but there's a true divide over a small issue. Yes. And you have an example.

I do. Well, I didn't, I mean, there is nothing worse than an unresolved issue haunting you for no reason. My dad and I didn't talk for 20 years. Is this true? This is true. For 20 years? Yeah. Right if it was a lie. Yeah. No, I'm kidding. No, for 20 years. What 20 years, by the way? Why? No, which, when did it start? From 17 to 37. No way. Yeah.

Yeah. And were you guys close up through 17? Yeah, on and off. Not that close. Did he raise you? Kind of. Okay, I understand. Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. Yeah, there's... There were some issues. Yeah, there were some issues. It wasn't dad of the year up until 17. I had a dad. Yeah, I got it. No, it was on purpose. But one day, I was writing this vampire movie for Universal, and halfway through, it was a father and son story. And I realized...

I'm not mad at my dad anymore right so I called him and I told him I said hey I'm not mad at you I wrote this vampire movie I told him about the movie I wrote this vampire movie and he says that's good to know I'd love to read it so now we talk he read the vampire movie and I was really worried because there's all this you know for me it's so personal it's this this back and forth between his father and son and and he he reads it and he calls me and he goes hey I read uh

write your vampire movie. And I said, okay, cool. What'd you think? And he goes, and I was so, so nervous. He was going to take offense to it. And he goes, well, I didn't know when, um, when you stab a vampire in the chest, they turn to dust. That was all I got out of it. And I was like, that's it. And he's like, that was pretty cool.

And I was like, 20 fucking years. 20 fucking years, man. And that was it. And I realized it can be that easy. It can be that easy. We talk all the time. Yeah, fully. We're not here to save the world. We just want to help people with grudges. Every person that I had grudges with is all dead, and I don't want that to happen. I don't have any problems with anyone that's alive. Not true. This feels like you're sugar-coated, and you got some grudges. Yeah.

I've known you for 20 years, man. You wrote that part, but it ain't real. Let's give them the email. Yes. What is the email? The email is solvemybeef. Solvemybeef at? Gmail. Okay. So everybody, if you want to send it in there, and then if you want to just send our show, send in. We will have access to that email too. So now to tack, we will still also be seeing it. If one of the beefs works for both, we're going to also bring them on the show. Right.

And yeah, it's going to be really fun. We've had a lot of fun doing it together. I think it's going to be great. And we are hopefully somebody sent something in. Gareth, what's your thought on it? I like the idea. I think it'd be fun, right? Yeah. And I also think like one of the things we filter out is like anything kind of serious and we don't have the longevity to be able to actually resolve a beef on that level. So one more time, the name of the email.

SolveMyBeef at GMA.com. Okay. And the last thing I'm going to say that's like, in a way, drunk history is like when people would get drunk and passionate, I would call it frustrated passion. Like that's the same thing as like, why won't this happen? Why won't this stop sign be committed to this corner? There's going to be death if there's not a stop sign there. Like that kind of feeling. There we go. Let's enjoy the show.

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Can we get your name, please? Sure. It's Rob. Rob? Yeah, R-O-B. Rob. And where are you calling from, Rob? Well, currently I'm in Grover, Florida, but I'm from Ewing, New Jersey. I'm on a vacation right now. Oh, so you're from New Jersey, but you're on vacation in Florida. Who are you on vacation with? My wife and my son. We're visiting my parents. Fun. How old's your kid?

He is going to be 17 months. Oh, you got a baby. Good for you. Rob, you got Gareth and I, then you've got Derek Waters, the creator of Drunk History, and Zach Shield. So you got a full boat. You got four shooters with you. We're all here to help you. Wow. Awesome. So Rob, why don't you take over and get started and let us know what's going on today?

Sure. So when I wrote in, I basically just said that I'm a marketing manager and normal guy, I love baseball, played college baseball, but I kind of have this thing where I love Jurassic Park to like this like nth degree. That's kind of weird.

So I have a lot of like all the collection items. I have like any, anything under the sun. I was actually an extra in the movie that you were in Jake. Whoa. Okay. Yeah.

and shot in New Orleans for a little while. It was an awesome time. And I also create dinosaur, like, membranellia. So, like, I... There's a lot cooking. There's a lot. Rob, there's a lot cooking. There was also something with baseball, too, right? Yeah, at one point. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot with dinosaurs,

I saw the movie when I was like four years old, I think, when it came out in 1983. If your issue has nothing to do with the movie, I'm going to die laughing. Yeah. If your issue is about what to do on this vacation. I got food poisoning.

Rob, so let's start getting to where we're at on this. Pick a lane, Rob. I think the lane is dinosaurs. I believe it is too, but baseball came. I know, that's all I'm thinking about is baseball. It's not just in the dinosaurs. Yeah, he's got two passions. Rob, is that true that the baseball is just to let us know you're not like a weird dinosaur guy?

Yeah, like I'm not 100% just like focusing on dinosaurs. See, that makes it seem like a weirdo. I'm a New York Yankee fan, you know. If they were dinosaurs. Generally normal guy. It's just a dinosaur thing. I'm a Yankee-saurus. Okay, okay.

But what he did say, which is what most normal people say, is I'm a normal guy. I like the normal things. You're a normal guy. Baseball, dinosaurs. You hand me a cheeseburger, I'll eat it. Anyway. I'm a normal guy. I like baseball and dinosaurs. Now let me talk 15 straight minutes about dinosaurs. The baseball seems like a weird, like a fake, Rob. Yeah. Feels like you're faking it. It feels like a first date where there's red flags. That's how I got my wife. That's how I got my wife.

That's how you got your... I respect it. She likes you as a baseball player, not a weird dinosaur guy. I'll tell you what, there's not a lot of ladies who are like, are you really into dinosaurs? You swear. That's not a big panty dropper. You're not just trying to get me horny. Yeah, I've been doing... I was also an extra in a dinosaur movie. Oh, my God. Showing...

So, all right, Rob, now we're getting it. So the baseball, and by the way, who am I to judge? I drove here with no shirt on. Yep, that was revealed earlier. So we get in it. You threw the baseball out a little bit. Like, that's how I got my wife. I'm not a true weirdo, but I'm getting weird with dinosaurs. Yes. Okay, fair enough. So basically, what I wrote in is that, so I spend a lot of time 3D modeling dinosaurs and collecting the figures and things like that. And I also sell them.

And my wife is... This isn't a business. We keep adding new stuff. This is about your business of dinosaurs. That is a different game. Here's what we should do, Rob. Get every dinosaur part of it out on the table now. You're kind of unfurling slowly like an onion peel. And I also feel like you're keeping a secret. Just say the dinosaur secret you want to say. Yeah, honestly. 3D modeling dinosaur. You banged a dinosaur. What's going on? What is the weird dinosaur thing you don't want to mention? So...

So my wife has an issue with the amount of time that I spend doing this. I know how she feels. I've known you five minutes. I have an issue with the amount of time I spend with dinosaurs. But Rob, I guarantee 30% of the audience are going to think we're being mean and you're not talking enough about dinosaurs. So keep going. But I'm with Gareth on this one. It was like a lot of dinosaur stuff. I want to go back to baseball.

That's what she said. This is how my wife feels. Understood. Unfortunately, I think I might be with her. To set the scene, we have a lot of imagery from our call. Oh, cool. And where are we going to see it? The back wall? But before we see the imagery, before we see it in head attack, Rob, do you feel like this has been fairly set up or is there anything else you want to say in your setup, in your defense?

Um, no, I mean, I, I get why she has an issue, but I'm just trying to make it not an issue. You know? Yeah. He says he's making money doing this. Yeah. Give it, give us a number. You don't have to give us how much you're making, but if you guys need a hundred slices of pie to support your family, how many slices are you making from dinosaurs?

I can probably 90 slices of pie. Oh, so you're, the dinosaurs are supporting the group. Well, you're a marketer too. But hold on, Rob, is that true? Marketing is the main thing.

Oh, well then marketing is 90. Marketing is the main thing that I do. Yeah, and making is fun. But the dinosaurs, they pay for home improvement, like vacation stuff. Like last year, I don't know if you guys remember, but I paid for a spa day for my wife. Rob, hold on. If there's 100 slices that pay for the group, you said 90 were dinosaurs. Sounds like 70 is marketing.

Oh, we're just talking about that. And sure, yeah. He's asking what percentage of your life expenses. Sure, yeah. 100% that marketing is doing the big heavy listing. Okay, so marketing's like 70%. He thought you meant time spent. Yeah.

spending 90% of his time on dinosaurs. My bad. I don't even know how much time I think and do everything. So the majority of your money comes from marketing, but about 25 to 30% of it, the AKA fun stuff, which you put as 90% is dinosaurs. Yeah. Okay. And then what is the specific question you have today?

How do I get my wife to just be on board with the amount of time that I spend making dinosaurs for people or just enjoying watching in the Jurassic Park every once in a while? How much of your time do you spend with these dinosaurs? Sure.

all right uh do you want to go on a day by day yes like yes i do sure random tuesday let's just say like an hour and a half to two hours of my day spent either you know talking to people because i'm trying to keep my business that that side of my business afloat or just you know reading up hold on hold on hold on guys let him say this so it two hours a day talking to people about business this is when jake shark takes i'm truly got to get these numbers so do you want about don

Rob, one second. About the dinosaur stuff. Hold on, Rob. Do you work from home? I do work from home, yeah. So you wake up at what time? 6 a.m. 6 a.m. You're doing kid stuff and wife stuff from 6 to 7? A.m. or just from 6 to 7. Hey, Rob. Yeah. What time do you wake up in the morning? 6 a.m. So we're going to go right there together. Are we mentally in the same spot? We're at 6 a.m.? What do you do from 6 a.m. to 7 a.m.? What category would you put that out there? 6 to 7 a.m.,

Helping my son get ready for his day. So family stuff, yeah? Perfect. So now we're at around 7 a.m. What are you doing from 7 to 8 a.m.?

7:00 to 8:00 a.m. kind of throwing the internet then going back to baseball watching the NK highlights on the night before and then I'll probably start going on discord and seeing the Jurassic Park group and seeing what news hold on hold on slow down there's a lot cooking so you wake up you help the family six to seven before work before anything else

You're watching a little bit of Yankees highlights and then you're getting right into Jurassic world stuff online. Is this true? You're talking to people in a group. This is before work. Okay. Before work. Yep. Okay. So that, hold on. So I'm going to put seven to eight and Rob, I'm just doing this cause we don't have time to do the bullshit. So seven to eight, I'm doing dinosaurs. Let's be honest for sure. Okay. When do you start work?

8 a.m. Okay, so 8 a.m. when you're working. Now, let's be honest. I'm not your boss. I just want the truth. I'm your friend. You work from 8 till when until lunch? When's your first break? The first break is around 12. 12? Out of 8 to 12? Any dinosaur stuff? Yeah, there's a little bit. Okay. There's a little bit for sure. Refresh the group. Agreed. They still aren't back. What?

It's impossible. There's still a 16th. His kid's just on the floor naked covered in oatmeal. No, kid's gone. So you got eight to 12. No, Rob, you're not gone. I'm with you here. Don't listen to these haters. We got eight to 12. My wife also works from home. Your wife also works from home. Okay, so in that four hours, be honest with me now. What percentage is dinosaur? Are we at a quarter of that or half of that? I want the truth. I'm going to say.

I'll say a quarter. A quarter. Okay. So of that, one of those hours, we're saying dinosaur. The rest is work. Okay. The rest is work. You do lunch. Is lunch dinosaur themed?

Brontosaurus egg? Lunch is, yeah, I'd probably spend a little bit of time sculpting during lunch, yeah. Jesus, Rob. Okay. So 12 to 1, dinosaur. Eating a dinosaur. Then you get back to work at 1, is that right? Yep, that's correct. You go 1 to 5? I go 1 to 6. 1 to 6? Are we saying a quarter of that's dinosaur?

The shorthand is awesome. Yeah. Maybe a little bit less. Okay. So an hour and a half of that is dinosaur. You lose steam as the day goes on. Is it because you lose steam as the day goes on? You get tired? Or does work pick up? Yeah, it just, work picks up. Okay. Six o'clock work ends. First order of business, see the family. First order of the business, play with dinosaurs.

First order businesses, hang out with my son for sure. Great. Have you tried to get your son into dinosaurs? Be honest. A hundred percent. A lot of my family is very much, they know what I'm into. So they buy him dinosaur toys and dinosaur books. And like, to be honest, I haven't bought that much for him, that's dinosaurs, because my family. So now we got to go back, Rob, we got to go back to the 6 to 7 a.m.

Does the morning wake-up routine have anything to do with dinosaurs? My son will say roar, roar almost immediately. Okay. So now, Rob, I think you're not going to like what we pitched. So after work, it's dinosaur time.

And family time. Yeah. Dinosaur and family time. Usually my son goes to sleep between seven and eight. Okay. So not as much dinosaur stuff there. Agreed. But he'll get more as he gets older unless the wife stops this. Yeah.

My wife and I eat at around 8 o'clock, between 7.30 and 8 o'clock. And then what happens? That's the time where we're either sitting watching TV or I take out my computer and I'm sculpting or if I'm on my phone, I'm looking at the news that I missed throughout the day. So that's your love time with your wife. Rob, when was the first time and what was the exact note when your wife let you know

you got to give me more time. What was the exact note that she gave you? You know what? It's kind of when I'm, let's just say like, I kind of give her a pre-warning like, Hey, tonight I have to wait. Hold on. Derek has a question. And Derek, hold on. Hold on. Rob, Rob, Derek has implied something a couple of times. Derek, ask what you want to ask. Get like busted looking at nudie magazines. Yeah.

Never been, no. No, right. We know. Is there anything that, like, is there anything that you're taking time at, like... Are you a pornosaurus? Thank you. Are you offering your sexual time to dinosaurs? Like, are you putting your sexual time to your wife or the dinosaurs?

No, that's all to my wife. Okay. Okay, great. So there's nothing. Okay. Yeah. We just wanted to get that out. No weird stuff going on. No weird stuff going on with dinosaurs. Okay. We're going to look at some pictures. But really quick before we do it, we're almost there. Six to eight goes family time. Kids goes to bed. What time do you go to sleep? Midnight? Me? Sometimes I go to sleep 2, 3 a.m. Whoa. So what time does your wife go to bed?

She goes to bed between 11 and 12. So you're, what you're doing is. Yeah. And so when she goes to bed, you're all dinosaurs. Yes. Yeah. 9 to 2 a.m. is full on dinosaur time.

Yeah. Not every day, but yeah. Rob, most days. Yeah, pretty much. I'm going to start off with this. You got a thing with dinosaurs in a real way, my guy. I mean, definitely talking to four guys who probably have had addictions at times. Yeah. This is... Rob, you're in deep. This is gone from hobby. Rob, you're in deep. You're hooked. You're underwater. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is the... 100%. Is the aspiration in your life to be full-time dinosaur business? Well, for every man. That's a good question. Because...

If he's trying to do a startup on the side, he's doing his marketing job and he's thinking, maybe I can do full-time with these dinosaurs and fulfill my dream. You're not wrong. Then he's got a good hustle. Rob, is this the, do you eventually want to take away marketing and be a full-time dinosaur man? I don't think I could make it up to it. No, so it's just a hobby. I just wanted to know. But I agree with that thing. Absolutely. So Rob, when did it start getting real weird for you with dinosaurs?

Because there's a moment where we're all like, man, I'm really into this. And then you go like, I'm weirding out.

Because, you know, you called in, your question is, how do we get your wife on board? Yeah. It's a wild angle. I'm worried we're not going to be able to. Let's try, obviously. That's like the house on fire. My question is, when is the TCBY open? It's like, the house on fire. I don't know. It's a yogurt store, man. Who cares? I'm just trying to think of, like, if I was his wife, and I'm on the couch, and we're watching a show, and I look over, and his laptop's open, and he's looking at dinosaurs, and

After his ninth hour of being on dinosaurs? I'm like, how many fucking dinosaurs you got to look at? It would be a lot. It's a lot. Two hours a day is a lot of dinosaurs, Rob. Could you pin why you have this love for dinosaurs? Could you pin it? Like as a child, was there trauma that the dinosaurs healed? Actually, yeah.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, 100%. Okay, what was it? Yeah, when I was younger, I got really sick. I had to just, or had and kind of still have this thing called ITP. It's like an autoimmune disease. And when I would go to the hospital, I would have a toy dinosaur that was with me. Yeah, this is beautiful. Now I know how we're going to get to your wife. Yes. So, Rob,

Do you want to tell us a little bit about the photos we're going to see as Jesse puts them up? Maybe let's throw them up and we can kind of ask questions about what each one is. Okay. The first one we're seeing is you with a huge dinosaur and

Um, I don't, it kind of looks like a half model dinosaur. You've got a, uh, expression on your face. It's, it's big. It's a big, it's big. So now, now there's also the question that that's impressive, Rob. That is impressive. It's also space. How big is your place, Rob, with your wife?

Um, we live in like a townhouse type thing. It's like 2,200 square feet. Can we see the next picture? But it's, I mean, it's a great looking dinosaur. That's great. These are legit. You're making legit stuff. You're an artist. Can we see the next one? Wait, how big is that? Okay, so this is... Is that an animatronic? We're seeing a T-Rex.

standing up in your yard. Yeah, Rob, tell us about the T-Rex that's outdoor, man. What is that, three feet tall? Oh, okay. That is about, yeah, about three feet tall, about seven feet long. That was actually a...

mold of the original T-Rex from Jurassic Park. Hey, my man, can you make one of these as a gorilla? I'll pay you real money for it, Jack. Hey, Rob, Rob, ignore Jake's talking about it. Hey, man, you want to lose this marketing gig? By the way, realizing now that this is a gorilla. Hey, everybody get out of here. Rob, I'm sorry for my tone before. I was wrong. You make a fucking full zoo of

I'll give you a quarter of my money, Jack. Rob, what do you judge for a full menagerie? I'll put it back on TV just to support you. What's up? Keep looking? She's attacking. Good job, Natalie. Wow, Rob. Now we're looking at one you're holding. It looks like you're a fisherman. We were picturing little miniatures. I thought you were a little geek in a basement. I really was picturing really lame stuff. Okay, this is cool. Wow. These are awesome, Rob. Okay, so Rob is really good at this. Hey, Rob, this is a business, Jack.

Oh, that's you in the movie. Do you remember him, Jake? Yeah. No, I don't remember him. You don't remember him? That's beautiful, too. We didn't do it in the same area. I was in Main Street Extra. Yeah, I was in Louisiana for mine in a studio. Okay. This is really good rock. Yeah. These are great. Now there's a dinosaur on a rock. Wait, you got in a museum?

Yeah, yeah. I have a museum in Central Jersey that they saw my work and they wanted to do something. This is spectacular. Let's see another one. This has all changed a lot. A lot. Does your spare tire have the Jurassic Park case around it? That's a great question. On the back of your Wrangler? On the back of your Wrangler?

I wish I had one. Yeah. It's a very common thing. Okay. So now, man, I'm glad, Jesse, you were right to show those photos. Rob, this changes a lot. Yeah. So you're not just playing action figures in your basement. You're an artist. You make huge sculptures of dinosaurs. And your question is, how do I get my wife to accept the fact that my passion is sculpting dinosaurs? Yeah. That's pretty much it. What's her issue with it? Yeah.

The time. It's the amount of time that I take. Fair. Because also, not only is it just the time, but I spend time on the internet forums and stuff like that. Yeah, she's right. Trying to see what people are interested in so that I can make them and then... Okay, Rob, this is simple, my man. ...abricots that are available. Right, right. We're going to cut to the chase on this one. This is simple. Marry a dinosaur. Oh. Oh. No. That's not it. Okay. Start making gorillas? Yeah. Yeah.

Come to Pasadena. I'm going to make a big financial mistake. My wife and your wife and our kids can do whatever the fuck they want in New Jersey. We don't need them. My man, I need a 90-foot silverback that I can lay in its arms. Can you build a silverback that Jake and you can live in, Rob? And here's the thing, Rob. This check will just be all zeros with a one in front. Tell me when to stop. You know what I mean?

I want a gorilla the size of California. And I wanted to fight all the bad guys.

have guys oh jake that got so sad and because i love my dad put it it's good yeah i wanted to find my dad and tell and zach's dad yeah and say start caring about the screenplays and because i love you gareth i wanted to have curly hair and don't don't i don't want your that was sweet of me the truth is you have a talent truth is from your wife's point of view what are we calling her again

Oh, Jackie. Jackie. I can also see from Jackie's point of view, Rob, it's too much. Yeah. Zach, what do you think? I just wonder if it's about making a space for yourself outside of the home. You know? A little man cave office. An apartment you rent and you do all your sculpting there. Yeah.

We're not suggesting he gets an apartment where he has time to go. Just fill it with dinosaurs. Start to bring your kid there. Tell your wife she's not allowed. She can't come into your special apartment. You buy another house. You start a second family. Get a ponytail. Maybe get a convertible and

Think about an earring in your left ear. Get a new, get another wife. I've been married twice, okay, Rob, if you didn't know that. That's not a joke. James is laughing. Well, it's clear his pitch is get a new place and get out of there. Get a place, get far away and do whatever you want. Run for your life. Run for your life. Be a dinosaur and become extinct. The real suggestion is be a dinosaur and become extinct.

You clearly have a hard time, and there's no judgment, monitoring how much time you spend with the dinosaurs. So if you can put it, some restraints. Oh, I only do dinosaurs in this location. When I'm at home with my family, no dinosaurs. I go to my special boy apartment that no ladies are allowed. Oh my God. You just called it a special boy apartment. And he was about to say no ladies are allowed, so it is fully a treehouse. It is a 10-year-old boy's treehouse.

No, Rob. I'm not signing up for a special boy. The boys are up here jacking off. I don't want a special boy apartment with no girls allowed where you play with dinosaurs. Excuse me, Rob. This dinosaur has a vagina. So I'm calling it because my wife has an issue with how much I'm playing with her. Then fine. I'll create a special boys apartment and no girls allowed. I'm on a second house with dinosaurs and no girls allowed. No way. Does she know you're calling today?

She doesn't know what I'm calling about, but she's a fan of the show. She knows what you're calling about, man. She's hoping. 100%. She's got a guess. How was the dinosaur chat? Oh, you knew? Did you hear through the door? Crazy. I got a question for you. If you started making more money on these dinosaurs, do you think that would change her opinion?

Probably. I think so too. A little bit. A little bit. Look, look, business is business, right? So I got a question for you. For the three footer in the back, seven foot long, what do you charge for that guy? That, I've sold one for four grand. Four grand. And about, when you put like hours in,

How long has that taken you, like for four grand's worth of work? Because I'm assuming, what is that? You got to first sculpt that out. You got to let that dry. Then you got to paint. I mean, the craftsmanship you do, and I say this because I've been in a lot of weird situations

Believe it or not, but I've been in a lot of weird junk shops and outdoor stuff looking for animals. Yeah, no, we know. I mean, honestly, that's a call on its own. All over great countries, I've been negotiating with a bunch of toothless assholes who sell work that's half as good as mine. Keep it on what you were going to say about Rob, because you were asking about the hours he logs. No, I wasn't. I'm trying to get him to make me a gorilla. Stop trying to get him to make you. I'm trying to get a deal.

If there's zeros involved, I think that'll also help my wife be okay with it. How much do you make a year doing marketing? You want to live in my house? I'll create a little boys' room. No girls allowed. No girls around. It'll be a little boys' zone. Actually, I have one in my backyard shed.

Oh, no. I bought it. I built a boys' room during the pandemic. And my wife and my daughter and my daughters and my wife won't go in there because there's ants and spiders, a.k.a. no girls allowed. I can't believe I built a boys' room. Rob, do you do jujitsu? What? Do you have any interest in it? Can you build a sculpture of a dummy I could beat at jujitsu? Did you make a jujitsu?

Just make him look tough. Make another Jake that he can fight with in the garage. No way. We would both be hurt. Start kissing. What's happening? We both quit because our cardio is bad. So, all right. So hold on. Because here's what I'm kind of thinking, Rob. Why don't you get on squarespace.com slash here to help? That's our promo code. Sure.

build a website of these and let's see if we can help blow up the business. You're not the only dinosaur fan. Hell, I was in the goddamn movie. So, I like them too. A lot of people like them. I can hook you up with Colin Trevorrow who directed it. He might want to buy one. You might give a deal to him. You've got a beautiful look here. Maybe we just...

Slow down the dinosaur and build up the artist. It's all dinosaurs for him, maybe. So our question to you, is it just, if we said like, hey, would you ever, if somebody said, would you sculpt my dog?

Would you be like, yeah, I'll get into that? Or if you're like, I don't have any art if it ain't a dinosaur. Where are you at? Does your dog look like a dinosaur? I have done other things before. You have? I do mainly dinosaurs. I know you do, but you can do everything. Can you do animatronic? No. Could you make this to your X-Men? No. I strictly live in the 3D. I do 3D sculpting, so it's all computer-based. And can these live outdoors? Yes.

It depends on the material that I use, but some of them can.

How much for a full-size gorilla that can live outdoors? I'm just asking for real. I know, but I'm just thinking of the beginning of the call. This is for the show. Yeah, it is sort of, but still, it's very... No, this is... I'm trying to think of a pitch. But what would be a number for with that level of detail? A six-footer, 350-pound gorilla. It's not even a pitch. It is a pitch. The kind of gorilla that if you met in the jungle, watch out. That's every gorilla. Congo talking about. The kind of gorilla...

- It's the kind of gorilla that if it hung with Robin Williams in an Instagram video, Robin and the gorilla would connect. - You want a cocoa? You want a home-based cocoa? - I wouldn't be mad at cocoa. - Okay, all right, Rob, answer his question and then we'll try to fix your problem 'cause I think he's creating more holes in the dam.

But how much would something like that cost? Probably like $4,000 to $6,000, depending on what it is. And it'll probably end up looking more like Congo, something a little scarier. Get ready to make a family, gorillas. That's all I can tell you. I got your email, Rob. We got to figure out shipping, babe. Can you make one with a stomach that has ant traps in it so that Jake can put it in his little boy's shedding bag? I don't want it anymore. Now I'm embarrassed. So, Rob...

What do you think about going in the direction that you're not a dinosaur geek? You're an artist. I'll tell you what, I think your wife's going to like that. The issue will still remain that it's the amount of time because we're talking about making, like, even if you're transitioning, he has a job right now, a full-time job. So there is also the component of how do you communicate to her. But what do you think of that just like gut instinct on something like that, Rob?

on just kind of moving into a different scope. Just leaning into, this isn't a dinosaur problem. This is a supplemental job that I do where I'm a sculptor. I feel like I'm just going to relapse, to be honest with you. Okay, I appreciate the honesty. Nat Attack, can you jump on for a second? Okay.

What's a female point of view here? What are we missing? Yeah, I have a point of view. I know you were going to say afterwards we were all off. That was sexy. What she's been doing afterwards is when we're done, she'll go, you missed it. You should have said that. And I felt like we were banging our heads against the wall. So what do you think, Matt? I'm so sorry. Okay. So I think that if you don't, if you're never going to make enough money,

to do this full time, then you need to ease back and have better balance between your full time job, this hobby and your family. Because you're trying to do too much and your family's getting the brunt of it. - Zach hates this advice. - And so you just have to scale it back. - He's building a little boy cabinet in his head and he's leaving the podcast. - By the way, this is why you don't let girls in the little boys club.

I think that's a very... This is why you don't like... Because that's a really smart answer. It's pretty rational. But this is why we have no girls allowed on our little boys' rooms. Because we're telling you to build more animals. Natalie, here's what happened. Now Jake doesn't get his gorilla family and Zach can't have fun with the dinosaurs in his yard. So I hope you're happy out there. Or commit. Commit and make it your full-time thing and really go after it. And just take the risk. Rob, when you hear both of those, because I actually think Nat Attack is dead right.

where's your head at? You want to lean in, you want to lean out, or you want to go a third option. And that is we will pitch to try to how to, how to convince your wife that this is not, because when we did the hours of your day, Rob,

I got to be honest with you as a friend, man, and this is from gorilla guy to dinosaur guy, it's a lot of hours on dinosaurs, Jack. That's... That's too many. It is. It's really that moment in the evening that you're supposed to spend with your wife that's getting compromised. It's not only that for me. We're six to seven in the morning. Well, you're staying up till three. I know, but you're not sleeping.

No, that's a problem. Four hours of sleep. Four hours of sleep and then he gets up and he's like, he's hanging out with a dinosaur child and then he's working on... His first thing is roar. Yeah. And what she's thinking is... The kid's name's Roar. Yeah. And she's thinking like, man, this is bad now. Imagine in five years, imagine in 10 years. So she's seeing the problem and she's trying to stop it now. Rob...

Should we pitch on how for you to pull back and schedule? Should we pitch on how do you lean in? Or should we pitch on a new version? And that is, how do we convince this woman that you got it all figured out? His answer is going to tell you everything. That's what we need to know now. We're going to a little boys cabin. I think...

I'd rather you to scale back a little bit. Okay, so Zach is alone in a little boy's cabin right now? Yeah, you're not going to have two marriages behind you, Rob. Way to go, Rob. You want to make the marriage work. We offered you the keys to Hollywood, but you chose it. So scaling back is the move, and that's what you want to do.

Yeah, just so everybody's happy. Because your call... And I can still get stuff done. But Rob, your call was, how do I get my wife on board? Well, we... We judged pretty hard, but we did it as friends. You're trying to maintain your dinosaur passion, but your wife feels a little iced out. Because it does sound like you're the guy who's... It's like if you had a social media addiction, you're constantly refreshing your phone. You're always...

An arm's reach away from the dinosaur. Yes. I got a question for you, Rob. Yeah. Is your wife nearby? No. She's in the house that I'm in currently. So she's not nearby. No, Rob, that is nearby. I mean. Could you ask her to come on the phone and can we talk to her for a little bit? Yeah. And Rob, are you comfortable if we tell her that we talked to you about the amount of hours and start getting a point of view from her about how many hours is enough?

Sure. Is there anything you told us you don't want us to reveal? Right now we're back in the little boys. No, I think she knows. She knows pretty much everything. All right. Can you get her on the phone? Yep. Hold on one second. Thanks, bud. I'm also curious if they're in Florida for Universal Studios Jurassic Park ride. I'm dead serious. I honestly, he's probably like, don't turn that up to her. Oh, wait, that is down the street. Oh, we're staying at Universal. Honey.

I want to talk to you. Thanks. This conversation right now. Hey, honey, will you be on the podcast? It's about dinosaurs. Hello. Hello. Hi, how are you? Hi, I'm doing well. How are you? Good. We're just talking about Rob and his dinosaurs. We're just talking about baseball. Rob's two passions. We've really spent most of the time on baseball. So can we get your name, please? My name is Jackie. Jackie. So here's what we know, Jackie.

You got a great marriage. Your husband loves you like crazy. He loves the sun. Everything's working. You're down in Florida. Let me ask you a quick question. Derek, what did you want to ask really fast? I just want to make sure. Are you in Florida for the Universal Studios Jurassic Park ride or just for vacation? Just for vacation. Okay. Have you gone on the ride? Normally we would be here for that. But have you gone on the ride? Before, yeah. Not this year. Not this year. Okay. So I got a question for you. When we looked at Rob's schedule...

I'm going to just be honest with you now, Jackie. We're looking at one, two, three, four, five and a half, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. We're looking at a 24-hour day. He's got about nine and a half to ten hours of thinking about dinosaurs. That is shocking. Jackie? We're trying to help cut it down. Yeah. What's a number that you would be comfortable with with your husband saying,

Looking at websites of dinosaurs, making dinosaur art, emailing other people about dinosaurs, living in the world of dinosaurs. You got a 24-hour thing. The guy's not fucking sleeping. So don't think about the eight hours of sleep. How many hours a day are you comfortable with this man thinking about dinosaurs?

I mean, thinking about him, I'm pretty sure it's more than 10 hours. He goes to dreams. His dreams are what he's excited about. It's three hours of dreaming. It's three hours of sleep where he's just like, oh, shit. All right, you're dead right. We're not talking about thinking. But he is actively online or making, we're talking about 10 in a day. Jackie, what are your feelings about dinosaurs first? Yeah, what do you feel?

I never had any feelings about them before we started dating. And now? Neither. But now I like how he sounds something that makes him happy. That's sweet. Jackie's a winner. This is a very good relationship. And you understand where his love of dinosaurs comes from. Yeah, but who cares? We're talking 10 hours out of 20. We're not going deep on this. Jackie gets it.

Jackie's a winner. So Jackie, Zach, I'm going to tell you what the guy just talking wanted to pitch really fast. He said, maybe get an apartment away where you put all your dinosaurs and have a sign that says no girls allowed. You wouldn't be allowed in the building, Jackie. He wanted to create a little boy shed. So his tone there, just disrespect. It's over. We're good, Jackie. I'm embarrassed. So Jackie...

I'll sign the lease. I'll also let you know this. He called and said, how do I get my wife on board with my dinosaur obsession? After talking about it, he said, I think I've gone a little bit too far. Maybe this call is... He loves what he's got cooking at home and he's like, maybe we got to figure out

how much dinosaur stuff is too much, because he's got an unregulated problem and there's some spillage going on. And let me explain to you, Jackie, during this call, there was a time where Jake was trying to get your husband to make him an enormous gorilla, potentially a family of gorillas. You say that in the past tense, Jackie. Jake drove your shirtless. We were going to maybe have your husband start a whole new business. We've come back down to earth.

We're now living in the real world again. Sometimes you got to go to space to remember what atmosphere we're in. So now we're back and we're just trying to figure out the best way to make this work. I think we're all astounded at the amount of hours he's living with the dinosaurs.

It seems like at night he stays up late to do his dinosaur stuff. He does until 3 a.m. Which seems crazy, but if he can handle it, he can handle it. Yeah, but hold on. No, you were so right, and then you ended with a weird, if he can handle it, he can handle it. I'm not going to be shamed by the gorilla guy. Look at your hair. It used to be that. It still is. So, Jackie, 10 hours is too much. How many hours is right?

I mean, whatever he wants to do before, you know, after it. Jackie, stop. No, Jackie. Jackie, hold on. But hold on. How many hours in a day are you comfortable with Rob interacting with humans, reading about, playing with dinosaurs? Two hours. That's long. Can I rephrase it? How many hours do you need with your husband?

So I would love, cause we were with our son until he goes to bed at eight. So it's like, it's nice to have like an hour, two hours together. Then I go to sleep, but then he can, you know. Yeah. But then the problem is, is he's never going to sleep then. Have you thought about getting your own apartment where no boys are allowed? So you're saying two hours and you don't care what he does while he's at work.

You're saying two hours post 6 p.m. a night on dinosaurs, but when you're asleep, who cares? Yeah, when the cat's away. Yeah. I think it's that time after the child is asleep that

before you go to bed at a reasonable hour and he does his crack dinosaur evening, I think it's that time when you want to watch a show together, he has to just be very present for that time. No dinosaurs between 8 p.m. and 9.30. Yes, I think after the kid goes to bed, like dinosaurs is when you're asleep, he can go dinosauring. But what do you think of that, Jackie? If we say from the second the kid goes to bed until you go to bed, no dinosaurs. Yes.

That I would be definitely good with because I think that would give us more focus time. So what he does in the morning, you're fine. What he does during work is fine. What you do when he goes to bed is fine. When the baby falls asleep until you go, I'm going to night and kiss and then I love you. Not one fucking dinosaur. Yes.

Because I think we can close this deal, Jackie. We can close this deal. Zach and Derek, your thoughts on this. Is this a deal we could close? I think it's a deal you can... I'm not asking you, actually. Yes. I'm also going to throw out, it's also great if you found something that you're like, this is something I like to do by myself. Agreed. And that you both have independent space. And then you can each get your own little apartment. She's looking for time together. No, I'm saying you still have time together, but... Okay, so Jackie, if we can close with...

If Rob will fully agree, not the bullshit, you know I'm on a podcast, but we're going to follow up with him. And we're going to follow up with him a lot because I'm about to do business with him. No.

I'm going to follow him around the house for a while. By the way, I'm going to show him how to be present when he's living in my garage. He's going to cost me a lot of money. But I can't have him distracted with his dinosaur stuff. It's all gorillas all the time. By the way, we say the same thing. Drop the dinosaurs. Focus on the silverback business. You're the angel on one shoulder trying to get him to be at home. I'm the devil trying to get him into the gorilla game. Gorilla game. There's a lot of money in gorillas, baby boy. I don't believe there are. There's not. So, Jackie.

If you're good, if we can close with that afterwards when you guys are talking about this, are you going to say, I'm really glad he called in that podcast. Our life and our home is better. I hope so. Because I'm looking for a follow-up where we can ring the bell and we've all won here. And I think our audiences too. We don't want this because this has been a long call to end it. Nothing changed. Yeah. Because I'm looking for a real deal here with Rob and I'm about to get fucking hard on his ass. Okay. Yep. We'll definitely report back. Okay. Can you throw Robbie back on the phone?

Absolutely. Good talking to you guys. Good talking, Jackie. Hello? Hey, Rob. It's Jake. We have an offer to present to you, but there can't be any bullshit. We did a lot of negotiating with Jackie. We have something that I think we can close with, but it's got to be real and you got to actually do it. Okay. Now we're saying this now as your lawyers. I think this is the best deal that we can get.

Zach, go ahead. No, I'm just saying there's some room to negotiate. Zach, stop talking. Okay. There was a little... I was just going to say every night of the week. What's your thought of the POV there to interrupt and say that? Hold on, Rob. I'm so sorry, my man. What was your thought there, my man? I just thought that you said lawyers, and I thought...

Well, if I'm advising him, maybe I could say just every night of the week. We're going to tell him every night, maybe one. But we didn't agree with that with her, yeah? That's how you negotiate. That's how you end up in a little boy's cabin. Now we're going to skewer your wife.

Okay. You're going to rake her over the coals. No, that's not what we're doing here. Will she wear a dinosaur costume? Rob, don't listen to me, man. The answer's right in front of us. So, Rob, here's our pitch to you, okay? We're going to go back to your daily schedule, yeah? Six to seven, family with a little bit of dinosaur stuff. Who cares? Right? Seven to eight? Yep. Dinosaurs. Eight to 12, work, one hour, dinosaurs. Okay.

12 to 1 lunch, dinosaurs. 1 to 6, you said an hour and a half of that, dinosaurs.

six to eight while your son's awake mostly family you should know part of the negotiation with nat attack was zero dinosaurs but jackie said some dinosaurs and that is fine yeah all right some is fine yeah then when your son goes to bed until jackie goes to bed no dinosaurs when she goes to bed

Dinosaurs until you go to bed. And by the way, get a little more sleep, my guy. But that's a different thing. Dinosaurs will look better with better sleep. Yeah, but I don't think they could. They look perfect. Yeah. I'm saying in his dreams. Yeah. But Rob, can we close right now?

the second your son goes to bed until your wife goes to bed and you're not allowed to rush her either. Tired, honey? Yeah. More wine? You don't have to go. You look exhausted. You must be tired. Yeah, you got to be straight up, Rob. Look at these new sheets. Oh, look at that. Why are you pushing my head into a pillow? There you go. Go to bed. I need to play with dinosaurs. Dinosaur sheets. Dinosaur sheets. Go to bed. Go to bed. Go to bed. You've been on friends 830.

30! You're going to be exhausted. You can't fake that she needs more sleep or anything like that. Here's what we're thinking. From the moment that boy goes to bed until that woman goes to bed, no dinosaurs. The rest of your day is exactly the same. Rob, this is a fucking deal. You close on Zach, don't say anything. So Rob, when you hear that deal, now we need the truth from you because we're going to follow up with you a lot. And when we follow up, we're following up with Jackie too.

Is this a deal you can close on? Sorry, say again? Is this a deal that you're comfortable closing on? And that is all the dinosaurs we've said from 6 a.m. until you, here's what you're agreeing to right now. When your son goes to sleep until your wife goes to sleep, nothing dinosaur. I can give it a shot. I can do it. No, no, no, no, no. This is like negotiating with a country about a war.

We're either in war or we're not in war. I guess I can give a peace treaty a shot. Yeah. You going to fire another missile or is the war over? We're just saying when we're watching the show with Jackie, you don't open the laptop and casually scroll. Hey, Rob. Yeah. There's no dinosaurs. This is a good deal, by the way, Rob. They don't exist. They don't exist until that woman goes to bed. Easy does it, boys. Easy does it. Let's not attack him. So, Rob. They're real. Yeah. What do you think here, buddy?

Yeah, I say yes. Yeah. So I want you then to present it to your wife when we're done.

And that is from the second our son goes to sleep until you go to sleep, there will be no dinosaurs. If I slip up, please give me grace. I'm figuring this out. I don't know if you know this, but I have a little bit of an addiction to dinosaurs. But those are off. When you go to bed, I'll do the dinosaurs. And what Jackie said, and she loves you like crazy. She's happy with the arrangement. She said she would be thrilled with that deal. You're thrilled with that deal? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm thrilled. I can do that. Hey, Rob, let's pop some champagne, baby. We're closing. We're closing. There we go. Keep us posted. We'll follow up. Yeah, keep us posted and be open to what she might enjoy doing together with you. And it's also going to take you a minute to form some new neural pathways in this world. And also, guys, let's get out of the car, yeah? Because we just...

Can you put your son on the phone? Put your son on the phone. Also, you guys think we were going towards the deal? Zach sees what I'm saying. All right. I'm trying not to say fucking anything. Zach, any final thoughts? What would you like Rob to do instead? I thought we were getting off the call. No, I was... Wait! I think that you should try your hardest because there's a whole new horizon for you out there with your wife, spending quality time away from dinosaurs. You might find an obsession sometimes,

with her, a new thing. Just open your arms. - Sculpting her. - Sculpting her.

sculpting her head she might be into gorillas that's great so Rob please follow up with us also your work is beautiful man and please create a website for the work you do and we'll post it on the show your work is phenomenal and if Jake emails you on the side do not respond Rob if Jake emails you on the side do not respond my closing thoughts real quick is it's great to have a hobby the only thing worse than having a hobby is having nobody

So just try to remember that. There you go. My closing thing is it's great to have a hobby. Thanks, buddy. No, Jake. But also if your hobby is a gorilla, it would be a better hobby than stupid old dinosaur hobby. Thank you, Rob. Hang up. Rob, hang up. Rob, you have to hang up. Thanks, Rob. Rob, we need you to hang up. Have fun in Florida.

Hi, my name is Kevin. I'm calling from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Yes, Scranton, like from the office. I just want to call in and voice my concern over the unapproved dispatch of Piggly and Moe. Last I checked, we're still a democracy, despite what's going on in this country. And a wise man once said, many voices who sound loud will drown out the idiocies of the few.

I think I speak for many others when I say the sudden dispatch of Piggly and Mo is not only appalling, but just downright wrong. I say we hold this to a vote to enshrine Piggly and Mo into the show, and should they be enshrined, their presence shall not be infringed upon. I love you both. Thank you. Okay, read your last intro on Monday. What day is it?

Monday, May 26th. Today's Memorial Day, okay? Pigley and Moe, yeah, it was bad. It was bad the amount that you guys were using them. I think it was just the number of times in a row we were hearing Pigley and Moe was just excessive. Like, I don't know. We expected more. You guys can do better than that. Yeah.

And Rhi, also Nonna, N-O-N-N-A, spells Nonna, considering she's Italian. So let's get it together, guys.

I genuinely love Piggly and Moe. They make me laugh so hard. Always, always do Piggly and Moe. I don't care if I'm in the minority. You guys rock. Always do it. Thank you. Hearing you guys address Piggly and Moe is so satisfying. I have a friend who listens to the show and we'll just write each other complaining about Piggly and Moe and how much we hate it. And we keep listening.

And every time I'm listening and they come up, I'm wondering how much longer can I keep doing this?

It made sense the one time when it was someone's mom who didn't know what podcasts were or something. And then suddenly you're suggesting that someone should show a voice recording to their roommates and that will make sense or something. And they're not they're not that funny. You guys are funny. They're not that funny. So, yeah, I'd say kill them, kill them off. Thanks, guys. I love the show. Really? Good morning, Jake. Gareth Nat Attack.

crew. My name is Amanda. I'm from Northern California. And I have to tell you guys that yesterday, as I was minding my own business, enjoying my Memorial Day off, doing some yard work, catching up on my pod because I was about an episode and a half behind, I heard some disturbing news. And I had to stop and immediately email because I

I heard that some listeners are not happy with Piggly and Mo and wish for less Piggly and Mo. And I have to tell you right now, they are wrong. And if that is their hot take, they need to find a different podcast because I love when Piggly and Mo come on. And to be honest with you, my sister and I, Christine from Illinois, we...

love Piggly and Mo to the point that if somebody is having a problem in our lives, we will suggest that we heard on an episode, we make up our own Piggly and Mo. Anyways, do not ever let Piggly and Mo go. We love them. We always, you know, we never know when in life we're going to need a lawyer and a doctor. And I love that we always have Piggly and Mo

ready to go at any turn. So do not let the haters hate and bring Piggly and Moe down. Keep it up. Love you guys. This is Jason calling from Deep River, Connecticut. Love the show, Jake and Gareth. And to be honest, I love Piggly and Moe. And here's why. Piggly and Moe is a mirror to the world we've created.

Hey, guys.

I don't necessarily hate Piggly and Moe. I actually think they can work in certain situations. But for me, it's that it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. The moment you look for that podcast or the moment you ask, oh, what podcast is that from? I want to listen to it. Well, then it falls apart. I like the advice that can stand the test of time, that can work long term. And so Piggly and Moe, while fun, just doesn't do that.

All right. Love you guys.

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