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Revisiting the Documentary, "Navalny"

2024/2/21
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丹尼尔·罗尔
克里斯托·格罗泽夫
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主持著名true crime播客《Crime Junkie》的播音员和创始人。
阿列克谢·纳瓦尔尼
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播音员:本片段主要讲述了俄罗斯反对派领导人阿列克谢·纳瓦尔尼在狱中去世的消息,并指出普京应对纳瓦尔尼的死负有责任。纳瓦尔尼于2021年1月返回莫斯科后被监禁,此前他在西伯利亚和莫斯科之间的一次飞行中严重中毒,并在德国接受治疗。纪录片《纳瓦尔尼》详细展现了纳瓦尔尼及其团队与调查记者克里斯托·格罗泽夫合作,追查其中毒事件背后真相的过程。 克里斯托·格罗泽夫:格罗泽夫详细描述了其调查过程,包括如何通过分析俄罗斯国家暗杀系统中的瓶颈,即负责制造和提供诺维乔克神经毒剂的科学家,以及追踪这些科学家与联邦安全局(FSB)特工之间的通讯,最终锁定了一组长期尾随纳瓦尔尼的FSB特工。他还讲述了如何通过与纳瓦尔尼团队合作,以及纳瓦尔尼本人亲自给试图暗杀他的人打电话,从而获得关键证据。 丹尼尔·罗尔:罗尔作为纪录片《纳瓦尔尼》的导演,讲述了拍摄过程中的挑战和机遇。他解释了如何说服纳瓦尔尼团队参与拍摄,以及如何在拍摄过程中捕捉到纳瓦尔尼中毒事件前后关键时刻的画面。他还谈到了如何平衡展现纳瓦尔尼的政治英雄形象和其人性的复杂性,包括纳瓦尔尼早期与极右翼势力的关联。 阿列克谢·纳瓦尔尼:纳瓦尔尼在纪录片中表达了他对自身安全状况的错误判断,以及他返回俄罗斯的决心。他解释了他与极右翼分子合作的策略,以及他将对抗普京政权作为首要目标的信念。他展现出一种救世主的特质和宿命感,以及对自身安危的漠不关心。 播音员:本节目还讨论了克里斯托·格罗泽夫被列入普京的通缉名单和暗杀名单,以及他正在调查企图杀害他的人。

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Russia's jailed opposition leader, Alexei Navalny, has died in prison. Navalny had been living behind bars since shortly after landing in Moscow in January of 2021. He had been returning home following months of recovery in Europe, after he fell violently sick on a flight between Siberia and Moscow. 

In the months following Navalny’s poisoning, Christo Grozev, former lead Russia investigator at Bellingcat, was stuck in Vienna with filmmaker Daniel Roher. The two had just been booted from Ukraine, where they had been trying to film an investigation. Grozev suddenly had a lot of time on his hands, a laptop, and a fresh stack of data from the Russian black market so naturally he began to investigate who was behind the poisoning. 

Daniel Roher directed the documentary “Navalny,” which portrays the story of the close collaboration between Navalny, his team, and Grozev, in the hunt for the dissident’s would-be killers. Last year, Brooke spoke to Roher and Grozev about the making of the documentary, which won the Oscar for Best Documentary Feature.

This is a segment from our February 10, 2023 show, *Hide and Seek).*

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