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The Death of Norms (with Robert Costa)

2025/1/29
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Robert Costa: 我认为，特朗普正试图将自己塑造成一个长期的政治运动领袖，而不是一个昙花一现的政治现象。他的支持者中，一部分人被他的人格魅力所吸引，但更重要的是，他代表了一种政治运动，这种运动围绕着他和共和党展开，其影响力可能持续数年甚至数十年。这与2017年的情况截然不同，当时人们认为这可能只是一时的政治现象，但现在他们正试图巩固这种政治力量。 Mike Murphy: 特朗普的影响力已经渗透到整个政治体系，不仅体现在共和党内部，而且影响到整个政治运作。 John Heilemann: 理解特朗普的关键在于区分其言行中的信号和噪音。我们需要判断哪些才是真正重要的政策，哪些是无关紧要的言论。

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The episode discusses Trump's first week in office, focusing on his numerous executive orders and commands aimed at dramatically reshaping policy. The discussion includes the political impact of his January 6th pardons and the challenges of distinguishing signal from noise in his actions.
  • Trump's executive orders and commands aim to dramatically reshape policy.
  • The pardons of January 6th insurrectionists raise questions about political impact and morality.
  • Distinguishing signal from noise in Trump's actions is a challenge.

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This week, Murphy and Heilemann are joined by the great, pen-stained hack, Robert Costa. The Hacks dive into Trump’s first week in office, his aggressive approach to mass deportations, the political impact of his January 6th pardons, outrage exhaustion, security concerns, upcoming nomination votes, CHIPS, tariffs, and so much more. It’s an open-mic-night presidency, and we’re here to walk you through it!