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X Marks the Feud (with Jonathan Martin)

2025/6/6
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Mike Murphy: 我认为特朗普和马斯克的决裂是可以预见的,但仍然很有趣。他们之间的关系是互利的,特朗普想要马斯克的钱,而马斯克想要接近权力。然而,特朗普的团队厌倦了马斯克,认为他是一个负担。特朗普只关心自己的形象和胜利,不关心小政府保守主义。马斯克触及了一些共和党人的痛点,他们担心赤字。马斯克有能力传播毒药,而且有钱,可能会在初选中打击共和党议员。如果马斯克退出竞选活动,这对民主党有利。特朗普可以伤害马斯克,因为马斯克在商业上非常脆弱。总之,我认为马斯克和特朗普可能会和解。 Jonathan Martin: 我也认为特朗普和马斯克的决裂是可以预见的。马斯克渴望进入真正的权力世界。共和党人知道特朗普在意识形态上是个骗子,但他们的选民喜欢他。共和党选民更关心特朗普的个性和立场,而不是实际的政策内容。马斯克是否有足够的注意力和组织能力来持续进行政治支出令人怀疑。特朗普可能会让那些回来并屈服的人回来。J.D. Vance 必须批评马斯克以保持在特朗普团队中。总之,我认为特朗普和马斯克的决裂是权力、金钱和政治角逐的结果。

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This chapter explores the breakdown of the relationship between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. It examines the symbiotic relationship they initially had, Trump's reliance on Musk's financial support, and Musk's desire for access to political power. The chapter highlights the role of Trump's inner circle in hastening the end of their alliance.
  • Trump wanted Musk's money, Musk wanted access to power.
  • Trump's inner circle grew tired of Musk's antics.
  • The Doge project was a political failure for both parties.

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This week, in honor of Mike Murphy’s 30th birthday (don’t fact-check that), we’re serving up a bonus mini-sode! Mike is joined by longtime pod pal JMart to unpack the latest fallout in the bromance no one asked for — Musk and Trump. The Hacks dissect where the relationship went sour, what comes next for the billionaire and the president, and what this high-profile spat means for the future of American politics.