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5. Helle Crafts - The Wood Chipper Slaughter

2020/5/1
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Payton和Garrett详细讲述了Helle Crafts被丈夫Richard Crafts杀害的案件,以及此案成为电影《冰血暴》部分灵感的来源。他们分析了Richard Crafts的犯罪动机,即为了避免支付高额的离婚赡养费和子女抚养费。他们还深入探讨了案件中大量存在的证据,包括在案发现场发现的微量血迹、被撕毁的地毯、失踪的冰箱、租用的碎木机,以及在河边发现的Helle Crafts的遗骸碎片。他们赞扬了法医专家Henry Lee在案件侦破中起到的关键作用,以及他如何通过对血迹角度、毛巾上的血迹残留、以及碎木机对骨骼造成的痕迹进行分析,为案件定罪提供了关键证据。此外,他们还讨论了Richard Crafts在测谎仪测试中表现出的异常冷静,以及他始终否认犯罪的事实。最后,他们对Richard Crafts最终被判刑50年,却在2024年1月因表现良好而获释表示了质疑和担忧,并对司法系统的公正性进行了反思。 Garrett补充了关于测谎仪测试的可靠性以及警方最初拒绝调查此案的原因的讨论。他分享了他父亲曾是洛杉矶警官的经历,并以此为基础,对比了现代警务与过去警务在处理失踪人口案件方面的差异。他还参与了对Richard Crafts犯罪动机、作案手法以及证据链的分析,并对Richard Crafts最终获释的决定表达了担忧。

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The episode begins with a discussion about the movie Fargo, which was inspired by the murder case of Helle Crafts. The hosts mention a sound on TikTok that reminds them of the murder, and they play it without context.

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Oh, man. Have you ever seen the movie Fargo? What's Fargo? People are going to hate this. They're going to hate this one. Anyways, it's like an older... Wait, wait, wait. No, I've never seen it. Okay. So it's like an older movie. And apparently our murder case today, Fargo, is based off of it. Not the whole movie, but just a portion of the movie is based off of our case. So, I mean, if you have seen Fargo, that's kind of cool. But if you haven't, like us, then it really doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Also...

So I'm on TikTok. I love TikTok. I know I'm too old for TikTok, but I love TikTok. And right now there is like a sound that is running rampant on TikTok. And it reminds me of this murder. And so I'm going to play it for you. Okay. And I'm not going to give you any context. And that's it. That's all you're going to get. I get so mad at you. Oh my gosh. I feel like you want to kill me. I do want to kill you. How would you do it?

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Wow. Wow. So that's all over TikTok? Yeah. That little end part. A wood chipper? A wood chipper. Wow. Wow.

That's funny. So that is from the movie This Is 40. I've also never seen that movie. But I really like the girl actress in that. Yeah, we should watch it. I've never seen it either.

I love me a solid murder case that has a ton of evidence due to the fact that there are people sitting in prison for something that they didn't do. And that just hurts me to my core. I love a case that is just evidence galore. And that's this case. This is an awesome case that has a huge amount of evidence against the murderer. It's literally like a

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That's right up your alley. Oh, man. It just gets my blood going. I also got criminallyintrigued.com, forensicfilesnow.com, curant.com, Murderpedia, obviously, and Reddit, obviously. Okay. Okay, so I'm just going to jump right in. Yep. So this case was the first murder conviction in the state of Connecticut where they actually never found a body.

So they convicted him of murder without finding... And that's just in Connecticut. Just in Connecticut. But it's the first ever conviction without a body. That's a big deal. And a lot of people, you know, we've seen from past cases is they don't ever convict without a body because it's so hard. Like, it's so hard to convict for murder if you don't even have proof that someone's dead. They could have run away. And when was this? So this was in...

The 80s. Okay. So this is the murder of Heli Crafts. Heli came from Denmark, so she's an immigrant, and she met her future husband, Richard Crafts, in 1969. She was training as a flight attendant, and he was training as a pilot, which, dream way to fall in love, am I right? Oh, yeah. Like, oh, we're flying. I'm your little flight attendant, and you're the pilot. Yeah.

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What do you mean? Like he's annoyed that she took care of him during it. Oh, so he's mad because she's taking care of him. Mm-hmm. That's strange. Yeah, weird behavior. Okay. They end up having three children together. Richard was making roughly $120,000 a year, which is really good money in 1986. Yeah, big baller. Yeah.

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I'm not saying we're woke in 2020. I think we're actually kind of far from it, but we've definitely just gotten a little better about like taking care of oneself. Like the priority of it's not going to look bad if I leave my marriage because he's abusive. You know, like we've just gotten a little bit better as a culture is accepting that because it used to be back in the day. If you got divorced or you, you left, that was on you for giving up on your marriage. It didn't matter the reason. And so, yeah,

After he recovers from his cancer, Richard starts disappearing for long stretches of time, and Helly finds receipts from Christmas gifts that he'd been buying for other women. Already messing up. She decides that she's had enough of the relationship and her marriage with Richard. He's a liar, he's having affairs, and he's spending money without her knowledge.

He seemed to do whatever he wanted. He decided to work part-time as a local law enforcement officer as well as a full-time pilot, which I'm like, I didn't know that that was like a thing you could do. Like, oh, I just, I'm interested in being a cop. So like, can I just volunteer and participate part-time?

Yeah. Well, did he say he worked part time or full time as a law enforcement? Part time. Oh, wow. Like they said, he would just hear a call over like the dispatch and just show up. Oh, wow. Yeah. I didn't know that. I would assume it's not like that anymore. I don't think so either. But we could be wrong. And he just spends the remainder of his time with his many girlfriends. Jeez. Helly hires a private investigator to help her build her case against her husband for court so that she can have the kids, you know, stuff like that.

Um, she was really worried about how he was going to take the news of her deciding to end the marriage because she knew he didn't want to pay alimony. She knew he didn't want to pay child support. He had a temper and tended to be abusive. Even Helly's friends and family said that she had confided in them about the abuse that she experienced. Helly also told friends and family before she went missing that if something ever happened to her to not assume it was an accident. I feel like...

In a lot of these cases, that happens, right? Yeah, I seriously wrote, I know that seems crazy, but if you love true crime, this is a pretty common part that happens regularly in these stories. All the time. They always tell the other, some family member. They know they're in trouble. Or something. Hey, if something happens to me, it's someone killed me. Yeah. Or whatever it is. It wasn't an accident. That's so creepy. So on November 18th, 1986...

Helly comes home from a European flight assignment and it was the last time that anyone saw her. The next morning, Richard woke the nanny and the kids and drives them to his sister's house because the power had apparently gone out in their house. It was 6 a.m. The nanny actually asks, where's Helly? Like she was supposed to come home last night. And he said, oh, she's home. She's just going to meet you guys at my sister's house.

So a few days later, Heli misses her next flight assignment and doesn't call in to give a reason why. So her friends at work call the Crafts home, and Richard tells them that Heli had gone to Denmark to visit her mother. And they're like, okay, like, why wouldn't she tell us? But, I mean, apparently her mother was sick, and so maybe they were like, oh, you know, she needed help or something. He changes his story a little bit later to say she was on vacation with a friend. So he's just...

telling different things to different people. Once the friends start to compare stories and realize that they were told different things, they get worried and call a detective because police had actually turned down the case. So they called the police and the police were like, nope, we're not investigating that. So they call a private detective. Do you know why the police turned it down? I think because she could have just left. She spoke four languages. She flies foreign all the time. She really could be with her mom.

Like, she's a flight attendant. She gets free flights. You know, like, I think they were just like, it's very possible that she could have picked up and left. I wonder how often that happens now. Like, I wonder how often police turn down. So, I don't think that... I mean, I think police...

are under a lot of fire nowadays and suspicion. And so I don't think that happens as often. Like even with missing kids cases, we see that back in the day they used to say, oh no, you have to wait 24 hours. Like we have to know they're officially missing. But now there's been a lot of state laws passed about mainly from cases. Yeah. I mean, I feel like they're a lot more serious about it. Not that this goes for everything, but when I watch cops, I love cops. Yeah.

I feel like whenever there's a missing kid, they're on it right away. Whether it's a couple hours or someone calls in and goes, hey. I just seem to take it a lot more seriously. Agreed. This is fun fact. Garrett's dad was actually a cop in L.A. for a while. Yeah, it's true. My dad was a cop in a couple different counties and areas. So, okay. So at this point, Richard never reports her missing. And it's been two weeks since the disappearance. He just keeps giving different stories, right? Yeah.

So the nanny for the Crafts told the detective, the private detective, that Richard had ripped up some bedroom carpet that had a dark stain on it in Helly and Richard's bedroom, and that a large freezer was missing from the basement of the house. Richard had also rented a diesel-powered wood chipper around the time of the disappearance of his wife, Helly. Oh my gosh. So...

After the news starts to lightly spread through town, a snowplow driver comes forward and says that he saw a man at 3 a.m. on November 20th with a wood chipper on a bridge over the Housatonic River. This was shortly after Helly had gone missing, and this is what pushes the police to start investigating the case. A wood chipper? That's crazy. A wood chipper? That's just pretty crazy. I don't know. It's a lot. It's a lot.

So Richard takes a lie detector test with the cops and he passes. There's no indication that he had any emotion or feeling at all during the test. It's literally crazy to me that people can do that. I'm not a fan of lie detector tests. I mean, we kind of talked this. Neither am I. We talked about this before, but. Like the fact that someone can just be in with cops, like know that their life is in jeopardy.

I think I would fail a lie detector test just because I'm nervous in the room. Like I can't even lie to you about, oh, I ate the last cookie. But I think it's a very sociopath, psychopath thing where they can. Yeah, that's why it's just crazy to me that people can literally turn off their emotions and their feelings that much. That they can pass a lie detector test. And that's what it is. It's they're completely turning off their emotions. So the lie detector test, I mean, I guess you and I don't exactly know how they work. I've never really looked into how it works.

- I think that lie detector tests

show a lot more false negatives than false positives. Okay. So a lot of people fell that weren't actually lying, but not a lot of people pass that were actually lying. Okay. Does that make sense? Yep. Which is why they're dangerous because it's more for the innocent people that I worry about for lie detector tests, not for the guilty people. Yeah. The police decide to call in a forensic expert, Dr. Henry Lee. At this point, they didn't get anywhere with the lie detector test and

He accompanies them to the Crafts' home, and he finds five tiny spots of blood on the couple's mattress. After testing the blood, he discovers that it's the same type as Helly's, and it was circulation blood, not menstrual. Whoa.

He studies the angle of the blood impact and concludes that it hit the mattress at 10 degrees. This means that it came from someone who was kneeling or leaning over the bed. It's crazy to me that they can do that. You can tell the angle of blood, what they were doing. I think it's really cool because that's what you should have studied. You should watch CSI then, babe. I mean, I think it's cool they can do it. Don't want to watch CSI? That's one thing. Yeah.

So the blood was consistent with an injury caused by a blunt object. I guess like the force of the blood hitting the mattress was like, oh, she didn't just like fall and it like rubbed on there. It was like someone hit and it cast off onto there. It's crazy. Dr. Henry Lee also tests the towels in the home and he finds that some had actually been soaked in blood before they had been cleaned with bleach.

Isn't that crazy that like they can find blood even if someone bleached over it and cleaned it? So the police decide to head back to the location where the snowplow driver said he had saw a man with a wood chipper that night. Well, I guess it was early that morning. They conduct a massive search around the whole entire area. They find a couple pile of wood chips on the side of the river and then a piece of an envelope that was addressed to Helly.

So at this point, it's like, what are the chances that there's Mel Taheli on the side of the river where someone saw a man with a wood chipper when her husband Richard had rented a wood chipper that night? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So they just, they go all out. They spend days searching the area. Good. They find some blonde hair, tiny bone fragments, metal, human tissue, and two human teeth.

As the snow starts to melt, they find more, and they also find one painted fingernail. Oh my gosh. They decide to dive into the river at this point after they've found all this stuff, and they find a piece of a chainsaw, but the serial number had been, like, scratched off. Yeah. It soon becomes clear to investigators that they are most likely not going to find Helly's body in...

Like, human form. Complete, yeah. Between a wood chipper and a chainsaw, it's not going to be there. The horrific details of what people are assuming have happened start to spread and it becomes primetime news. Could Richard really have put his wife in a wood chipper? Richard maintains his innocence throughout the whole investigation.

They begin to examine the chainsaw and they find human tissue on it. They also use chemical solutions to eat away the upper layers of the chainsaw and get down deep enough to find the serial numbers again. You love this stuff. How crazy is that? Because this is total CSI. Like, I'm just like...

The fact that they're like, oh, he scratched it off. But if we dig deeper than the scratches, we'll find the original serial number. That's why I think now in 2020, it's harder to get away with murder than it. Yeah. It's just, it's crazy. Because I think Richard thought, oh, there's no body. I put her in a wood chipper. I dumped her in the river, not necessarily knowing that things were going to wash up onto the banks, but still.

And think of how much things have advanced since the 80s. Yeah. I just, I mean, like, we're seeing this huge shift now of,

Cold cases being solved because of. DNA. You know, their advancement of DNA technology and all of that. And it's just crazy. It's so cool. It's pretty crazy. They also study the hair and the tissue fibers found at the scene and they match to Helly's. A chemist compares the polish found on the fingernail to the bottles of polish at Helly's house and they discover that they're the same type of polish. Wow.

So the problem with all of this evidence is it's obviously her, but there's still no body. They can prove that she was most likely hurt, but how can they prove that she's dead? So they test the bones again by putting some pig bones into the wood chipper

that Richard had rented, and they discover that the wood chipper leaves the same grooves in the pig bones as it left on the bone fragments they found. Like a gun, like a bullet. Like, you know how they can match? They did it with the wood chipper. They went all out for this. This is good, though. I know. So when they discover this, they do further testing on the bone fragments and find out that pieces from it were from her skull, which is a really big deal because they now know...

that Hellie might not have been dead going into the wood chipper, but she was most certainly dead after coming out because that was skull bones and no one can live without pieces of their skull. You could live without an arm. That's horrible. So based on all of this evidence, Richard is arrested and charged with the murder of his wife. And with that, police put together this theory. On November 18th, Hellie returned home from her overseas shift and puts her kids to bed.

Hellie changed her clothes, looked through her mail, and then put, like, pieces of it into the pocket of her shirt and begins changing the sheets of her bed. Her and Richard most likely get into a fight at this point. And while she was leaning over, putting sheets onto the bed, Richard struck her with a police flashlight that was in their bedroom. Which, come on. Like, he's an officer. Yeah. Part-time, apparently. Wannabe. And he uses his...

police flashlight to kill his wife or hit her over the head at least.

Um, so he wraps her up in the bed covers and then puts the body in the downstairs freezer. He tries to clean up the blood, but obviously you, you really can't clean up blood. And then he goes to bed. He wakes up the next morning, wakes the kids up, takes the children and the nanny to his sister's house. He rents the wood chipper and transports Heli's body to the bridge around 3 30 AM the next night morning.

Using the chainsaw, he dismantles her body and puts the pieces into the wood chipper along with some wood, which I'm like... He was so calm throughout all... Well, I wasn't there, but it sounds like he was so calm throughout all of this. Yeah. And like, why the wood?

I don't understand. Like, is it because. I would assume in his mind, he's like, oh, they won't catch me because. There's actual wood chips. There's actual wood chips. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just like, okay. Because the body was frozen when he put her in there, there was very little blood splatter, which is why they didn't really find any blood evidence. Does that make sense? And then Richard took apart the chainsaw.

and attempted to scratch off the serial number but didn't do it good enough because they ended up finding the serial number. And then he throws all of it over into the river. But because he throws it into the river, some of it washes up or splatters onto the banks, and that's how they ended up finding it. A jury finds him guilty to 50 years in prison. Good. And he maintains his innocence to this day. Wow. Wow.

Richard's lack of concern through the whole entire thing helped convict him as well as all of the evidence because there was no body. They had to go hard. Yep. So Richard actually just got out of jail earlier this year in January 2020. Wait, how? Because he got out on good behavior because he had been a police officer before.

Before murdering his wife. Oh my gosh. He killed someone. He brutally murdered someone. Chopped her up. Put her in a wood chipper. But oh wait. He was a police officer. And all because he didn't want to pay alimony. Or child support basically. That's ridiculous. I can't believe they let him out because he was a police officer. I mean. I guess we don't know for sure that that's why. But that's what all of the articles were saying. Okay. He's 82 years old.

And he's living in a halfway house somewhere. So just a place to get him back on his feet, basically. It just, it's hard for me to comprehend when people that brutally murder someone get out of jail because in my mind, I immediately think they're going to kill someone else. So why do we let them out? So I was actually going to do like the aw sound, you know, that we normally do when people get convicted. And then I was going to do like a fail sound for that he got released.

But I think it's important that I believe in our justice system because if I don't, then what do I believe in at that point? I think it's okay to believe in it and not believe in it at the same time. Yeah. So I feel like also when someone gets put in prison for a murder...

It's not actually a win. Like it's a win for justice, but someone still died. So it's not like you righted or wrong. You know what I'm saying? And even if it was a life for a life, like the person, like those parents and their mind doesn't bring their daughter back. So it's like, it still sucks. Yeah, it's so sad. And yeah, I...

Prison is supposed to be about reform. And so I, you know, I believe, yeah, he's 82. Hopefully, fingers crossed, he doesn't murder someone again. I guess I didn't think about it that way. I mean, he's 82 years old. He's not. Yeah. Okay. He did serve a pretty big chunk of his life. I think that changes my mind a little bit. Well, this was a pretty just dead on story.

He killed her and that was that. I think he thought he was being sneaky, like renting a wood chipper. I think he left the receipt for his wood chipper in his house. That's how they found out he got it. So I'm like, he made so many mistakes for being smart enough to get rid of a body. Yeah. Because leaving a body is like the most damning evidence. And so...

I'm like, you really did make a lot of mistakes for lying about her whereabouts, never reporting her missing. Like at least for some of these family or spousal murders we see, they at least pretend to be like, oh, my wife's missing and oh, I don't know where she went. Like this guy was just like, yeah, F it. I'm glad the police though did dig a lot and... And hired that guy. Yeah.

Because it said that the detective was like, most of our criminal evidence clues we're not going to find without a body. And so he was like, we need forensic evidence at this point to put this guy away. And so then they hired an expert. And look at all the evidence they got. Yeah. Like, it was so much evidence. This was different than our other stories just because...

There's no, it was cut and dry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, that's it. That's the story. The murder of Heli Crafts. That was a quickie. What are you doing? Where's your mind? I'm talking about murders right now. And I say it's a quickie. Yeah, I guess it was. It was a quick podcast. It was a short one. Yeah, that was a good one, though. It was as good as murder can be. I mean, it was a Forensic Files episode, so it's got to be pretty good. And the first one.

So if you guys do notice, our first episode is taken down. We weren't quite as on par with Forensic Files. We're still trying to get better. I feel like we're doing good though. We had to take it down. It just, it wasn't as good of quality as we're trying to put out there. So don't get confused. You're not missing anything. It's just start on episode two on our podcast. And we'll redo it at some point. We're just trying to continue to get more comfortable and

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