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Welcome to I Do Part Two, the podcast for people that either didn't get love right the first time around or people that have loved and lost. Sondra, I am welcoming you tonight to this podcast from Carmel, California. Sondra Mason from our season of Golden Bachelor. How are you doing this evening, Sondra? I am doing great for you.
being uh midnight when it says nine o'clock here well Sandra's tired but that's okay so I am on with Susan Knowles we have the Golden Bachelor podcast it's under Bachelor Happy Hour and it's Golden Hour and I hope you all will tune in but tonight this is about all things love so
Sandra, I haven't seen you in a while. Right. And part two, you may or may not know, is all about finding love again. So let's start back at the beginning. Tell me about...
Your first love, your family. Tell me how we got to where we are because this podcast is all about finding love again. And to get that, we need to know where you came from. Okay, first love as in when I was a young, young gal? Well, you know, maybe your husband, the father, your kids, wherever you want to start. Oh, gosh. God, I got married in 1968. Yeah.
Do the math. It's about 100 years ago. I have two daughters, and that was love. We were in college. Boy, that takes me back. We were in college and got married before I graduated. He had graduated. So, yeah. And how old are your kids now? 52 and almost 40. Wow. How old are you? 76 and a half.
And a half. I count them. So you're going to be soon be 77. In July. All right. Well, you know, happy half birthday there. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. So tell me, you know, you've had an amazing week. I'm just going to jump in here.
Your photograph with CK, that is Charles K, went viral. Tell me about that. Like, did you have any idea that it would go viral? What were you thinking? No, I didn't. We were just having fun and taking pictures and kind of...
yacking it up and we were at the restaurant and folks were saying, yeah, let us take the pictures for you because two old people trying to figure out how to hold the phone up high and get the light. So are you talking to them? Are you dating them? Come on, give us the scoop. What's going on? Okay. We live 3,000 miles apart, so it's not exactly dating. We're kind of like phone pals or pen pals. But
And unfortunately, well, unfortunately, we do live that far apart. And the second unfortunately is that he has an opportunity, his company is sending him to Cape Town, South Africa shortly. I guess his first trip there will be March. So...
That makes flirting long distance an issue. Yeah, it's a brand new talent I'll have to develop somehow. So wait, are you thinking, like, are you guys flirting? Are you interested? Tell me what you're thinking. Oh, I'm interested. I don't know if he is or not. I can't speak for him. But as a matter of fact, I was telling him that when it was Jones' limo night, he was the one gentleman that I honed in on when he walked out of the limo. Really?
Yeah, he was the one. And just coincidentally, I've met him. So wait, let me, he lives in, right now, he lives in California and you live in Atlanta. So was he there on, where were you? Where were those pictures taken? Oh, I came out here years for the Rose Bowl Parade. And he and I had been talking, chatting on the phone. Matter of fact, he had gone to Atlanta for business and we were supposed to have dinner one evening and I wound up in the hospital.
Yeah, this was post-tonsillectomy. Oh, right. Yeah, you have, yeah. How are you feeling now? I'm a lot better. Okay, good. We're glad to hear that. I haven't had a cold. I haven't had a sore throat. Well, you know what? I've had your colds. Uh-oh. Bronchitis, I've had it all, but I'm good now. All right. So hold on. So you came out here, did you reach out to him to have dinner? Flirty girl, you? Well, because I owed him. I thought I owed him from when I, quote unquote, stood him up in Atlanta inadvertently. Okay.
But so I told him I was coming out for the parade and we agreed to meet and go out to dinner. Okay. And was it everything? I mean, come on. We had great conversation. He's funny. We were funny together. We just, we had just great conversation, telling jokes and just learning who each other is, learning about his past and shared mine with him and everything.
We just yucked it up. It was just a lot of fun. I can't tell. I can't tell if he's the friend zone. Well, yeah, he would have to be. Again, we're 3,000 miles apart. I mean, I don't know. I'll travel anywhere for Love, Sandra, so you know. Well, okay, I won't. Okay. And I don't think he would either. You know, he's got...
I always look at it this way. If I'm interested in a guy, other people are interested in that same guy. So it's not like I can. But don't you think you're, I mean, come on, aren't you first in line? I don't know. I haven't asked. All right. So for those of you who don't know, we're all out here having a fabulous weekend in Carmel and we're here for the Pebble Beach Pro-Am.
And do I need to tell you how many available men are going to be on that golf course? I have no idea. Tell me. There's going to be a lot. Okay. So my question for you is, what do you think? Are you going to be flirting with some other guys? Are you going to be looking? Because you know CK is here.
Yes, yes. Have you seen him yet? Well, I know we're supposed to have a podcast tomorrow. Have I seen him? No, I just walked in. Wait, give me the scoop. I want the scoop, Sandra. What's the scoop going to be on the podcast? I have no idea. Nope. Are you going to ask him out? Are you going to try to be his date while you're here? Come on.
Kathy, you're asking me things I haven't even thought about. I don't know what to expect this entire weekend. So I know that some of his castmates will be there. So he gets to reunite with the guys. Yeah, it's a golden reunion. Okay. This is it.
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Other guys? Yeah. Ooh, spill. Come on, give it to me. You know I'm going to ask. There's a gentleman in my local area that I've been talking with. Sandra. Just talking. And we've gone to dinner a couple of times and, uh,
I met a buddy of his. So that's dating. That's prelim dating, I think. Sandra. What? You know me well. You know I'm not letting that one go. Are we kissing? Are we holding hands? We have kissed. Oh. Yes, we have kissed. So this is more than just a one-time date. Oh, yeah. Thus far, we've had two, I'll call it two and a half dates. So CK, you're out in the cold, buddy. I'm just going to. No, no, no, no. Don't say that.
I'd be willing to bet Mr. CK has had, since I've met him, he's had several dates. He's a working guy too, so his time may be somewhat limited. I'm retired, so I'm a little more flexible. So are you dating more than one guy? No, not right now. Are you a one guy girl? Not necessarily. No. But there's only one guy right now? Right now. And he lives in Atlanta? He lives in the Atlanta area. Okay, so-
You and I are both in the dating world now, and it's a different world, right? I can't remember. Are you divorced, right? Yes. Divorced. Okay. And my husband passed away, so it's a little bit different. How do your kids feel about you dating them?
Oh, they're excited for me. Like I've said before, they are my cheerleaders. When I was on the Golden Batch, they were my cheerleaders. And finding a guy is something they want for me, just like I want that for them. Yeah. Well, are your kids with, do they have partners? Actually, yes. You know, one got married. Yes, I remember that. The other one is dating a gentleman. So yeah, they're doing great.
So how do they feel like my kids? I'll be honest with you. My kids don't like it when they see me with a guy kissing them, holding hands, PDA. Why is that? You'd have to ask them. What, they want you to be a virgin until you die? I think the virgin thing sailed three children ago. Well, no, you know what I mean. But no, I just think it makes them uncomfortable. Your kids, how do you feel about PDA? Like, are you going to hold hands in public, kiss in public?
Yeah, if it comes to that, absolutely. I don't have a problem with that at all. And I don't think they would either. They, my kid, my daughters. So are you looking for a serious, the serious next guy? I would think so, yeah. Really? Sure. Are you ready to get, like, commit? Oh, if it's the right man, I will commit. Now, I'm not signing papers, if that's what you're asking. Oh, wait, what does that mean? That means I'm not getting married. Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, unless you want more children at 76, what would be the- Well, we could practice, but- Yeah. So, okay. So, you're out here. You're going to go- Are you going to be looking for guys out here? I hadn't thought about it. Sandra! What? I didn't know what to expect. I'm not- Okay. Let me break this down for you. Break it down, girlfriend. There is going to be a-
Pebble Beach Pro-Am Golf Tournament. There's going to be a lot of golfers. There's going to be a lot of people watching the golfers. Men love golf. Yes, I know. There's going to be a lot of men out there. Okay. Are you going to be searching? Do I have to fight you? Do I have to fight you for one? No, of course not. You know, here's the thing. I'm not a flirter. I'm really not. I don't believe that for one minute. I think the most effective way to...
approach men or it's just to talk, just to talk and be myself. I'm the whole flirting thing. My God, I'm 76 years old. I'm not flirting. So how do you meet guys? I mean, what do you, do you go up and talk to them? Talk, talk about, but here's the thing. I do part two, right? We've, we've both been married before. We're looking for part two. We're looking for our second
Happiness, right? Second partner, second person to spend our life with. Right? Well, could have been more than that. Okay. I mean, I've dated since divorce. No, but I'm saying we're looking for that person. Okay, yeah. Are you? I mean, I am. I guess I'm looking. I'm not... See, Kathy, I don't...
I'm not sure how to express this. I'm not out looking and searching for a guy. It happens organically. I bump into men. I meet men. Friends introduce me to guys. But to say I'm out there with my antenna up, no, no. So, okay. Well, I think that's very fair. I mean, you know me. I always say, guys aren't going to come and knock on your door. That's right. You have to be out there looking. Got to be out there, out and about. So are you good if you're...
I mean, I have to be honest. I would like to find that guy to have my part two with, and I think you would too. Sure. But it takes a lot of work. Okay. Well, I wouldn't call it work. I just, I don't know. Effort. Effort. Okay, effort. In other words, like you said, you can't sit at home and expect someone to knock on the door. You have to be out and about. You have to be... Do you know what I would do right now to have someone knock on the door just on this podcast, hear that knock and say, wow, he's here.
I don't think it's happening. It just passed my mind for a moment there. But, you know, I think a lot of people thought that, you know, we would have a lot of guys from Jones' season, you know, hooking up with us. I think the difference, I actually was going to ask you this, I think that...
I've talked to a lot of the guys from Jones Season, and they've had a lot of women reach out to them. I'm not surprised at all. I'm not either. Did you have a lot of guys reach out to you on DMs when you came off the show? I'm not going to... I don't think a lot is an appropriate word. I've had several, but I don't know if that's a lot. Did you date any of them? No. I've had phone conversations. The problem... Well...
I don't know if it's a problem. The gentlemen who have reached out to me, again, are long distance from where I am. Are you willing to relocate? Well, I don't know. It depends on who it is and what the other circumstances in life. It's just, in my mind, it's difficult to date. It's difficult to get to know someone. It's difficult to be spontaneous when someone lives a plane ride away.
Okay, but wait, would you pick up? And I think the difference between now and part two for me is I meet a guy I'm interested in. He says, hey, you know, let me buy you a ticket. Let's meet in London. I'm going. Okay. Are you?
It depends on who he is. I mean, if I have to be interested. Right, yeah. If it's the right guy, I might do that. I've had a guy say to me, whom I really never met, just had half of a conversation with, and he says, I want you to come out and see me. He lived in Chicago. I want you to come see me, and I'll pay your way, and how's that? And I said, well, first of all, I can pay my own way if you want.
If I'm going to come see you, I'm paying my own way. And two, I gave him the daughter test. Do you have a daughter? He said, yes. I said, if some man she never met said to her, I'll pay your way. Come see me. What would you tell your daughter? And it stopped him. And he said, I understand.
I said, so look, if you want to meet me, you come my way. You make that effort first. I'm not going to hop a plane and come see you just because you paid for it. And folks, therein lies the difference. If CK goes to South Africa and asks me to come, I'm on the next plane. But see, I've already met CK. I've met him. We've spent time together. We've on the phone. We've had nose to nose. Yeah. So-
Wait, did you kiss him? We kissed. Is he a good kisser? I think so. I think we matched well in that department. Listen to her. They match. I'm telling you, getting stuff out of you, Sandra, is like pulling teeth. I'm just saying. I'm sorry. You know, here's the thing, Kathy. I'm a very pragmatic person. I hear this. Very practical, very pragmatic. So I'm not one who...
can read between the lines very well. You're not going to jump off a cliff if you think it could be love? You're not going to take the risk?
Well, yeah. What are you asking me? I guess what I'm saying is, you know, you see you're pragmatic. Sometimes love, especially at our age, is just jumping off a cliff saying, I don't know. Let's see where it goes. Okay. So are you talking about once you're in love or getting toward love? I'm saying... At what point are you talking about something? I'm saying I meet somebody and...
I think, well, maybe I'm interested, just taking the risk. It's not like you and I are going to raise a family, have children. So why not take a risk? You're retired. Why not? Well, I can take a risk, but I've got to get to know someone. There's got to be some comfort level there that he is...
age appropriate, that he has relationships, family relationships, that he's financially stable. There are things that have to be in place before I jump off a cliff. Because I'm too practical. Yeah, I was just going to say, that's not jumping off a cliff. That's getting all the data, walking step by step to the cliff. Which is fine, too. Well, you know what? It seems to have worked well for you so far. Mm-hmm.
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Meaning you used to golf. I used to golf. I stopped about a year and a half ago. I stopped just before we filmed on the batch because I had a little bit of a car accident and jammed my thumb and it swelled up. Went to the doctor and they x-rayed both hands and said, oh, by the way, you have arthritis in both thumbs. Oh, joy. Okay, so gripping sometimes is a problem for me.
So I haven't, since the show, I haven't really, I've gone out to the range. I haven't gone out to the course again. All right. Well, I'm going to be watching you at this golf tournament. I'm going to be seeing who you make eye contact with. I'm going to be seeing who...
Who floats your boat? Who you're willing to walk off the cliff for? Who you're willing to walk up and give a kiss to? Who you're willing to walk up to and start a conversation with? Okay, I can do conversation, yeah. You can do that? Sure. Okay. I might beat you to it. Can I get some pointers from you? Because you seem to have been... You know what? I...
pointers on what, how to meet a guy? How to flirt or how to start it off. Jump off the cliff. Here's what I do if I find someone that is appealing to me. I think the biggest compliment you can pay someone and show you're interested is to ask him out.
in my case, ask him questions about himself. That's what I do. I ask and I use their name. So, you know, in your case, CK, tell me where, you know, tell me you're going to South Africa, whatever. I ask using their name, look them in the eye, ask some questions about themselves because I think that puts people at ease. Um,
But then, of course, I'm waiting for those people to ask me questions as well. But I also think sometimes just a smile, you know, making eye contact, it's not that hard. I do believe chemistry is, you know, it's at the forefront, right? You meet someone, you either have chemistry or you don't. Right.
See, I don't like to be interviewed. I don't like men to come ask me, are you married or who are you here with? No. So by the same token, I don't want to approach anyone.
From that perspective. I'll talk to a guy and we'll chat about where we are, what's going on, how's your game, where are your buddies. I'll talk about things that would be common to the environment, not necessarily go after him. Well, yeah, but think about it, Sandra. You have to, when you meet someone, somebody has to say, hey, hi.
How are you? Nice to meet you. Or, you know, oh, you're a golfer. Oh, you're here watching the golf tournament? Sure. Oh, yeah. That kind of conversation is great. Well, that's how you start. Okay. But when you say, start asking him questions about himself, use his name, and that's fine. Well, I don't know. I just, maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. Okay. Well, here's what I think, Sondra. Tomorrow. Yes, ma'am. When you and I go to the golf tournament. You're going to give me some pointers. I want you to follow after me.
We're going to pick out the guy. You're going to show me, Kathy, I like that guy. And I'm going to make it happen for you. You are? Are you going to tell him? Like high school, Saunders got a crush on you. I'm going to be your wing woman. I'm going to be your wing woman. Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm going to be your wing woman.
I'm in trouble now. No, it's going to be great. You're going to have guys, you know, like a dance card. Your dance card is going to be full. These guys are all going to be like, I want her number. I want her number. But let me ask you this, Kathy. You say there's going to be a swarm of men. Won't there be a lot of women as well? Yeah. I think I measure up. Do you measure up?
Well, yeah, I don't... Then don't worry about... I'm not trying to measure. I'm just saying... Who cares? My point is, who cares? Right. You're at the top of the heap, Sondra. Am I at the top? You're at the top of the heap. Oh, right. We're at the top of the heap. All right. I...
It has been great having you. I'm so glad you're here with us. We are going to have a great time with some of the guys from Jones season, some of us, the Golden Bachelorettes. We're going to have a great time. I'm so glad you're here. This is going to create memories that you are not going to forget. Oh, it sounds great. And you never know, Sandra. Yeah. You're going to learn how to flirt. I want to flirt. I want to get to know someone, but I don't want to flirt. Is that flirting?
Flirting is one way. I don't know. I've always thought flirting was throwing your hair, winking, staring. I assumed that that was flirting behavior. So maybe that's words. Do as I say, not as I do. Follow me, Sandra. It's not flipping your hair, but...
I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you lessons. We're going to talk. The next time we do a podcast, you're going to be telling the world about all the men you met at the Pebble Beach program. Thanks for joining me. I really enjoyed it. Tune in to I Do Part Two. Loved having you and see you next time. All right. Thanks, Kathy.
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