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You guys, my guest today is someone I've called a friend for over 30 years. Can you guess who it is?

The phrase that Kelly Taylor said, I choose me, was in part because of his character. We shared the screen together on Beverly Hills 90210 where he played Brandon Walsh and was nominated for two Golden Globe Awards, which I have no recollection of, for his work for that role. Oh my gosh.

Now you can catch him on Wild Cards on the CW Wednesday nights. Please welcome Jason Priestley to the podcast. Okay, this is good. Over here doing happy dance that you're on the pod. Thank you. It's nice to finally be here, Jen. I know. This is so... Did you know you are the number one requested guest to be on this pod? Because we did a little survey. Yeah.

And everybody wants you. Everybody wants Jason. That's hilarious. That's awesome. Well, that's good to know. Good to know. Somebody still wants to pay attention. Oh, somebody definitely does. Wait, do you remember when we met on Teen Angel? On Teen Angel in Phoenix, Arizona. Yeah. Wait, we were in Phoenix. Yeah. We're in Phoenix. We shot that one in Phoenix. We shot the first one in Phoenix. We shot the second one in Salt Lake City. You weren't in the second one.

Yeah, Teen Angel Returns now. Yeah, the original with Adam Biske and Renee. What was Renee's last name? I don't even remember what my character was or what my role was. Nothing. I remember nothing other than seeing you for the first time and thinking, oh my God, he's so cute.

Yeah, I remember it. I remember it was you were you were one of Renee and you were Renee's like buddy. You were her like, you know, number two. Yeah, I think that was the last time you played the female number two.

Oh, yeah. The good old days. But you were a kid, man. You were like in high school. Like you were 17, I think. I had my parents on the set with me, I remember. And you had a girlfriend, I think. Was that Robin? No, no, no. I don't think I had a girlfriend back then. Oh, I don't know. I was just like, I was really stoked that

our relationship was an automatic like friendship and no drama. Like, I don't know. It's kind of like a brotherly sisterly thing that we've always had. Yeah. And I love that about us. It's true. You know what it does? It just makes it really comfortable whenever we see each other, we don't have to,

You don't have to go back through the minutiae of the last three months before we saw each other. We can just pick up where we left off. It makes it much easier. Yes, it does. Okay, so I named my podcast I Choose Me, which as fans know was when Kelly had to choose between Brandon and Dylan. And instead she chose herself.

But that's what sort of launched it all. Do you remember filming that scene? Did you? I do. I do. I really, I totally remember it. I remember you because you and me were on the beach just north of the Venice Pier. And Rusty, our steadicam operator, was exhausted because we kept walking through the sand and doing a big long walk and talk.

Poor Rusty, man. And I remember it was kind of cool and blustery that day. It was cloudy. Yeah, we were on the beach, but the scene where she says, I choose me was outside the pitch pit after dark. That's right. Because that's where Brandon proposed. That's what I'm getting. On the beach. That was the proposition scene. Yes. The first time. That's right.

Did you understand the importance or the ultimate meaning of I choose me at that time? Because I did not. I did. Oh, I did. I totally did. I totally did. I remember you and me and Luke all joking around about it. Right? Yeah. Because we thought it was clever. And we thought it was an original choice. Like, I don't remember ever...

uh seeing uh a character on tv like that when when faced with a choice of you can marry this awesome guy or this awesome guy and the character goes no i'm good and so brave so brave yeah and you know i think you know certainly in those early seasons those you know first four or five seasons of the show i think that we really uh tried to to do things like that that were

that were different and sometimes controversial. But I think it was important to...

To reach our audience, the audience that we were trying to reach. I think it was important for them that we address the issues that they were going through at the time. Yeah. I have so many women that come to me and say, when I saw that episode and I saw Kelly choose herself, it dawned on me that I have that choice too. Like people, women that age didn't really realize that they could choose themselves and understand like what that would mean to them and their self-esteem and their

their entire lives probably changed. Yeah. Which is so cool. It is. It's crazy to think, and I especially went through this because I was just in Europe at a fan event over there and so many young people

came over and talked to me. They were with their moms and their, you know, their moms and made them watch the show. And they were, they were all just telling me how much they liked it and how, how relevant they all thought it, it still was, you know. That's so cool. Like that, that show still is, it's got a whole new generation of, of watchers. So like, did you ever think when we were filming that show that we would be here talking to

like this about what we're talking about uh no no i really didn't i was uh no i i i love you know i mean i i love the show and i thought we made i thought we made a lot of great

But I also, you know, I also, I was also very, you know, like we, you know, and not many people remember this, but we really struggled to get through our first season. And, you know, our numbers were barely keeping us on the air. You know, we were sort of a top 60 show. Like it wasn't, it's not like we hit it gangbusters out of the gate.

So, and I, you know, and I, you know, I give props to, you know, the people at Fox and they kept us on the air and, you know, like Aaron, Aaron must've been in there fighting every day to keep the show on the air. And I'm obviously very glad that he did because I feel like, you know, once the show hit its stride and once the show kind of found its audience,

The first Gulf War was good for us because Fox was the only channel that was still showing entertainment. So I think we gained a lot of followers that way. But we gained, you know, the summer episodes in season two were the big turning point for us.

For all of us. I just think all the time how lucky we are to have had the careers that we have had and that so many people around the world love us and support us. Like there's no feeling that kind of describes that. And I only share that with my fellow castmates, you guys. And it's such a bond. Yeah.

It is. It's cool. It's unbelievable. And I feel like we were all incredibly blessed by the experience. We all brought so much of ourselves to the characters. And I say this because I'm a super fan now. I'm watching the show back, as you know, on OMG podcast. And I love the show so much. I never knew how much I love the show.

I'm so invested in the characters. And it's blowing my mind that it took me this long to catch on. But people – because I think we brought so much of ourselves into each of our characters, there are times when Kelly blurred into Jenny and Brandon blurred into Jason and

I think that was pretty much the magic sauce. Yeah. Yeah. We did. Well, I mean, do you remember the meetings that we used to have with the writers at the end of every season? And they would say, so what are you into? What are you doing these days? And, you know, like, you know, what do you, what do you think about, what do you think about a storyline about this? Would that be something you'd be into? Like it was really, it was, it was, it was something I'd never experienced before. And I think that, I think that sort of encouraged everyone. Yeah.

to bring more of their own personal experience and personal likes and dislikes to the character. And, you know, look at David Silver and his music career, you know, that was happening alongside Brian Austin Green and his music career. It was all very... It was all very... It felt very in-house, all of it, in a way. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, watching it back, though, it just...

doubles down the fact for me that you're such a good actor and I want to know, do you know what a good actor you are? Like, do you know that without a doubt? Uh, I'm, I feel like I'm pretty confident. Uh, I feel, I feel like I, I feel like I figured out a pretty good, um, system, like a pretty good technique for myself. You know, there's,

When you're a young actor and you study with a lot of people and you're trying to figure out a technique that works for you and how you're going to be able to get to the places that you need to get to as whatever character you're portraying,

I sort of, you know, my technique is sort of an amalgamation of a lot of the different teachers that I worked with over the years and things that I picked up, you know, just being on set and, you know, working with directors and working with other actors and, you know, seeing what their process is. You know, it's one of those things that becomes, certainly as you get older, it becomes very personalized. There's nothing like that on the job training though.

No, it's absolutely the best. And, you know, spending my 20s, you know, making 280 hours of television, like I couldn't have been...

in a better place to learn to get better. So it's funny, you say that you love the show. When I watch the really early episodes of the show, all I can see is my bad acting. And then as the seasons go on, I felt like it got much better. But I saw a lot of mugging and a lot of like... There's some of that for everybody, but like

I don't know. I'm in season seven right now and you're just so good. Oh, well, thanks Jenny. I'm so lucky to have worked opposite you and I really realized that now. Maybe I took it for granted all these years. Wait, wait, wait. I have to pause for a second. I just thought of something. Okay. While I was researching for our little talk today,

I had to do a double take because you were in a Britney Spears music video. Yes. And I never knew about it. You, Pharrell, what's his name?

austin powers mike myers like when did that happen and why didn't nobody tell me about that well it that happened because uh because mike and i uh were friends mike and i used to play hockey together and uh and after i did snl uh mike mike and i would spend a

And he would always invite me to, like, you know, table readings and, you know, charity thing, whatever he was doing, right? And then one day he calls me, and this was the movies for the second Austin Powers movie. They did that – they added that video to the soundtrack, and he wanted to do a music video for it. So he called me up, and he was like, hey –

when you come and do this Britney Spears video, it's going to be you and Taye Diggs and me and it'll be super fun. I was like, yeah, Mike, no problem. I'll do that. Wait, did you know going into it that you were supposed to be the, you were the one that had to dance with her, like grind on the dance floor with her? I had no idea. I had no idea what I was getting into. I was like,

know you wouldn't have done that if they had told you because i know how much you love to dance oh my god it was but you literally are just like there and you dance for just a second and then you back on out you guys if you haven't seen this you need to check it out it's priceless what's the name of her song uh boys you remember oh my god it's so good it's so good okay oh my god

Hold on. Can I just time out for a second? Yeah. You had to do research before talking to me? We've known each other for... I take my job very seriously. Yes. Yeah, yeah. No doubt. No doubt. I like it. There's many things I did not need to research, let me tell you. That's pretty much the only thing I uncovered. Okay. So by season three...

You were not only acting in the show, but you were also directing episodes. You were the first one of us to lead that charge. And you hadn't directed anything before that, right? No, I hadn't. I directed theater before that, but that was it. So for me, getting that opportunity from Aaron was a really big deal. Yeah.

And that episode turned out great. It was super fun. I mean, do you remember the two days we spent up at Magic Mountain?

And were you there in Magic Mountain? Yeah, you were there. Because me and- I remember being there, yes. Yeah, we were at Magic Mountain and I'd do all these camera mounts on the roller coasters and stuff. It was super fun. And I think the storyline was we were there for some- or you were there for some kind of like senior ditch day or something. And some dude tried to steal Donna's purse and-

Yes. I don't know. I just remember Shannon and I riding over and over and over on the biggest, baddest roller coaster. We just kept saying, go again, go again, go again. That was the best day ever. But yeah, you're just a natural born leader. You're a natural born director. It's so apparent. You are great at leading a set. You're great at setting a tone. I'm not just blowing smoke up your butt either, by the way, buddy.

No, I appreciate that, Jenny. Those are things that I've had to work very hard on. Yeah, and I'm sure that it's not easy to go from being an actor, especially a heartthrob, into being taken seriously in the directing world, but you've done it. Yeah, it definitely wasn't easy.

But I've certainly been enjoying a certain amount of success behind the camera, which I really enjoy. From the minute I shot that first episode and at the end of season three, I was like, oh, yeah, this is for me. This is what I want to be doing. And I got to direct a lot of episodes of 92 and on before moving on. It was very...

It was good. It was a great training ground for me too, like having Rick Gunter and Steve Randolph and all the boys there to really show me the ropes. It was the best thing that could have happened to me. Yeah. I had that same similar experience where they just kind of let you take the lead, but were just always there to support you. Yeah. I loved that. When you directed, who was your DP? Was it Rick or was it Steve? Steve.

Steve. Oh, cool. Yeah. Well, Steve Randolph, man. He was a beauty, that guy. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.

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With Dutch, you'll get more time with your pets and year-round peace of mind when it comes to their vet care. I need to ask you one more question about 90210. Okay. Who taught you to kiss like that? Because your kisses. Wow. Okay, I know because you were kissing me, but watching him back, oh my God, you are an aggressive, really good kisser. Mm-hmm.

Wow. Thanks, Jen. How many women do you think you've kissed? Come on. Come on. Most people, if you were to ask this question, it would be like maybe a double digit, but I'm thinking triple for you. If it's not triple digits, it's got to be really close. Yeah. Isn't that weird?

Oh, you know what? No, it's got to be. Yeah, it's well into the triple digits. I mean, I kissed 100 girls on 90210 on camera, like, you know. Not to mention off camera. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're a very distinct kisser. Yeah. Anywho. Distinct, but in a good way.

Is it? Just think of a good way? No, a good way. You kind of eat my face off. Yeah, I did a few times, didn't I? But it's okay because it looked good. I just remember getting like incredible razor scratch, what's that called? Burns on my face from your whiskers. Yeah. There was just, yeah, no controlling that. Oh, the good old days. Can you believe we're parents of kids that

Are the age we were then? Yes. That is the most shocking thing to me. Like you don't feel any different, right? Talking to me, I feel like we're back there, the same age. Like I don't feel any different, but we have grown, almost grown up kids. Well, you do have grown up kids. I do. Yeah. My kids are almost grown up, but yeah, it's shocking. What if they were doing what we were doing?

In their lives right now. I would feel like a failure as a parent. Why? Because I've spent my whole life with my kids saying to them, hey guys, look, I know what I do, but it's not real. Like you can't, this is not real.

you know, the success that I've enjoyed in this career is not normal. So like, don't think you're just going to follow in dad's footsteps and it's going to be, you know, smooth sailing and you're going to be, you know, on your way to the Emmys the next week, right? Like, it's just not like that. And so I've tried to be super hyper-realistic with them about, you know, about

about choosing a career and choosing a job path. That's something that has some security. And, um, How's that working out for you? Well, it worked, it's worked out well with my daughter, uh, with my son. I mean, he, he doesn't really know what he wants to do yet, but, uh, but, but in the meantime, while he's trying to figure it out, he's, uh, you know, in the theater a lot.

I can tell you love that. You know what? To be perfectly honest, I love going and watching him and I love watching him do his thing. He loves it, so I love it for him. But I don't know if it's going to be his life's work or he's going to find something else. But what if he gets as lucky as you? What if he gets as lucky as us? You say that doesn't happen anymore, but maybe it will. You don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I, I would be, I would be super proud of him and super excited for him. If he could, if he could enjoy a career like I, like the one that I had, I'd be super stoked. But, but I, you know, but I also, I, I worry because I'm a parent.

That's what we do. Yeah, that's right. None of your daughters are, what are they into? Okay, one is working in New York. She lives there. She's on her own. She does event planning. And the other one is my daughter, Lola, the middle one. She's in fashion. She helps me run my brand. And then my youngest, who's 18, she's a

is I feel like it's going to happen for her. I feel like it's a natural, she's very natural in front of the camera. Right. Yeah. Wow. Has she started her career yet? Has she started doing anything yet? She got some headshots done. Right. Oh, there you go. Step one. Yep. And she is very exciting news. I'm not allowed to talk about it yet, but she's got something else that's happening. That's going to be amazing. So yeah, I think it's going to happen for her too. Wow. Good. That's it. Well, you know what? That's exciting.

That's exciting. Yeah. And it's going to be nerve wracking for you and awesome for her. I want to ask you a question. It's kind of a serious one. Okay. Okay. Can we talk about grief a little bit? Because we've both been through it more than once. And it's really talking about the passing of our friends and co-stars, Luke and Shannon and,

We haven't really sat down and talked about how you dealt with it and how I dealt with it. Where are you in your grief process? Are you still feeling like – I don't feel like I've gone anywhere in my grief process. I feel like I've kind of stalled it so that I don't have to accept it. Right. Right.

Uh, where am I? I, I'm, I'm in the acceptance part with, with both of them, you know, like, you know, obviously, uh, Luke's passing was far more, uh, shocking than Shands. And I, and I, and I, uh, I, uh, you know, that time, the time, the time when the time while Shannon was sick, I, uh, you know, whenever I had the chance to spend time with her, I made sure that I,

that I said all the things that I wanted to say to her. So when she did pass away, I feel like her and I had said everything that we needed to say to each other, which I think gave me some closure right away, which was good because it's tough. Being a cast as young as we all are, to have lost two of our castmates already is shocking. Well, relatively young.

And Luke's passing was so shocking and just came out of the blue. It took me a lot longer to...

to reconcile that and, and what that meant. But I, but I also, unfortunately for myself, you know, I've, I, I lost a couple of other really close friends of mine in the, in the, in the years, you know, in, in, in my adult years. So I, I, unfortunately I, I, I'm, I'm starting to get pretty good at, at saying goodbye to my friends, which is, which is sad. Yeah.

Do you remember the moment you found out about Luke? I can't. Yeah, it was you. You called me on the phone. I called you? Yeah, you called me. What? Yeah. This is crazy. And I was in the kitchen in my house and the phone rang and it was you. And I said, hey, Jenny, what's going on? She goes, do you know what's going on? But do you know what happened with Luke? And I was like, no.

And then you told me what was happening and where he was and what the, what was going on. And you said, right, I'm going to, I'm going to call you back when I know more. And then you, and I felt, I felt like you were kind of the hub of the, of the information because you, because you were talking, you were talking to Madison and,

Nancy told you? Yeah. And his manager. And I was at the hospital trying to get in to see him. Right. But they wouldn't let anyone in. And they actually told me he wasn't even there, but I knew he was. Right. I can't believe I forgot that I called you. Like, that's blocked for me. Well, you know, of course you wouldn't remember. I'm sure, you know, you were in shock like the rest of us. Yeah, that was hard. That was tough. That day, that was...

Those few days were not fun for anybody. And with Shannon too, I feel like when one of us, another one of us goes, passes away, our life ends, there's this bond that not only until our last breath, but until the end of

I feel like we are intertwined and connected on such a level that when something bad happens to you, I will come into that conversation. When something bad happens to me, Brian will come into that conversation. Like we're all so connected in this wild way. Yeah, it's true.

I enjoy it because I like all you guys. Do you feel comfort? I do. I do. I came from a small family. It was just me and my sister. To feel like I have this extended family, it's good. It feels good. Yeah. There's something so special about it. I don't think any of us take it for granted now. I think maybe before we lost Luke-

I think maybe it was a little easier for us to like not think about that as much. But now it's just so in the front of my mind all the time how fucking grateful I am to have all of you and have this shared experience that we can never forget and people will never forget. Yeah.

And it's documented, right? Like it's not like we had an experience that only we got to experience, right? We had an experience that was a global experience. And that's something that's incredibly special that not many people get to experience.

get to live in that rarefied air and I feel we were all super fortunate to be there. You know, right place, right time, right? And here we were. You've done so many projects. We've all done so many other things, but I don't feel like that bond can ever be recreated. There are different kinds of bonds that happen on sets.

But I got really good over the years at meeting a new cast or for whatever period of time, three weeks, four years, and knowing that at some point that's going to end and we're going to part ways and we're probably not going to talk to each other anymore. Like as much as we see each other now, you know? Yeah.

I don't feel like the bonds are the same is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. No, I totally agree with that. Yeah. And part of that probably had to do with the ages that we all were and the amount of time that we worked. We were working 10 months a year together, right? We spent a lot of time together. A lot of time. And those are really formative things.

years for all of us, right? Whether our castmate was 19 or 25, we were all in it together. And by the way,

Nobody does fun shit after work anymore. No. Yeah, because, you know, I work on series all the time and, you know, everyone just goes home. Oh, I got to study my lines. You know, we would be like... Let's party. Let's hang out. We're going out, man. We're going to Merrick's Tex-Mex and we're going to sing karaoke till two in the morning, you know, and then we're going to get up and go back to work. Like...

We were young. We were young. Now I just want to go home and get to bed so I can get my eight hours before I have to get up again. Oh my God, I'm having such a vivid flashback right now. I don't think we've ever talked about this. Do you remember the time when

When I think I had a couple of drinks, I don't know where we were. You're like, which time? But no, the time. And I professed my never-ending love for Luke to you. Oh, yes. And I was like, but Jason, I'm in love with him. No, me, I, Jenny, I'm in love with him. I don't know what to do.

Do you remember? I do remember this. I think we were in a hotel. Well, I think we were. I think we were at a hotel at the Universal Studios. Oh, my God, yeah. That's it. Right? It was when we were doing that episode, whatever it was, the high school graduation, the college graduation, whatever we were doing up there, I remember. Yeah.

What did you do with that? I just put that away. I put that in the vault for you, Jenny. You were like, oh, good girl. Okay. You and the rest of the world. I looked over your shoulder and I said to the bartender, cut her off. No more for her. But I laughed at him. Oh, my God. I was just right.

It was so good. It was so good. Okay. So, you know, on this, probably talk about choices and where they lead us. So I want to talk about when did you realize that you needed to choose to leave the show? It was, it was, it was halfway through the eighth season.

when we went away for Christmas break and I, I went, I went away. Where did I go? I went to Eastern Europe. I went to Hungary or some Budapest or something. Anyway, it was just, I had this overwhelming feeling. Like I just, I couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel. And I, and not that, not that making our show was, was, was bad or not. It was anything that I, that I, that I was lamenting already at that point in time, but I,

But I couldn't see an ending. I was like, when is this show going to – am I ever going to get off of this? And what's going to happen when – I started having all those thoughts. What's going to happen when I do get off this show? Is anyone ever going to want to hire me again? Like all that stuff. Mm-hmm.

And then I called Aaron when we got back to work in January and I said, so like, what's the plan, Aaron? Like, what are we going to do? Like, are we going to, how much longer? Because they were trying to make a deal with me for the next season. So I said, like, what's the deal? Are we just going to do like, we're just going to do one more season and be done? And he just kept saying, no, I'm

I'll be dead before they take this show off the air. You know, and he was all... More power to him, 100%. Yeah. But that's not what you wanted to hear. That's not what I wanted to hear. I wanted to just...

I kept saying to him, Aaron, let's end the show while our numbers are still big. Let's go out on top. Let's not do that slow descent into anonymity. You know what I mean? Let's go out on a high note. Let's get it done. And he didn't want to do that. And so I said, well, I feel like I got to go, Aaron. I feel like there's other stuff I want to do. And I feel like I just want to...

I feel like maybe I need to leave the show. And he got all offended. He was not happy. That must have been such a hard conversation. It was horrible. It was horrible. It was horrible. And I, you know, had I known then what I know now, that the show was only going to last another year and a half, I would have stayed on the show. I can't believe you didn't leave until season eight, you said? Season nine. I think I did. Wow. Yeah.

I thought it was earlier than that because Shannon was only there for four seasons. Yes. Luke was there for... Five. Five. Yeah, he did the first, I don't know, six or eight or ten episodes of season six. And then that's when we did the big, you know...

Rebecca Gayheart story with them when they were going to get married and then her dad tried to kill her instead. Yeah. You watched that. You re-watched that. Does it hold up? Oh, yeah. It's so upsetting. And then the next episode, nobody mentions her.

He's mourning, but the whole rest of the cast is like, let's go to the party at the frat house. It blows my mind. Oh, my God. So did he try to keep you? Did he try to incentivize it more? Because you were already executive producing the show. Yeah, yeah.

What more could he have offered you? Yeah, there wasn't really anything. I mean, like I said, in retrospect, I would have stayed on the show, but it worked out the way it worked out. It worked out the way it worked out. You did end up coming back. Please tell me I'm right about that. I did, yes. The very last episode, so I was doing a play in London in the West End

When you guys were filming that last... What was that play? I was doing a play called Sideman. Okay. At the Apollo Theater with Edie Falco and myself. Wow. I remember that. Okay. Yeah, it was fun. But I filmed something.

Because I guess, I guess at the wedding episode that, you know, they, they had a little thing, you know, brand brand instead of send a video file, which is, you know, Aaron must've been panicked about that. You know, he hated technology in the show. That's why, you know, it's why it took his years to have laptops and. Car phones. Yeah. But yeah, so. So you only came back on a video?

Yeah. Oh my God. This is not how I remember it. Yeah. Okay. I'm not to the end of the show yet. I'm only in season seven, like I said, but I can't wait to see what happens. And I'm very disappointed that you actually don't come back. I thought we got married. That didn't happen? No.

Did we, we almost got married already before season. No, no, we didn't get married. No. When did that happen? When did we not get married when we were getting married? Brandon asked Kelly to marry him twice. Wasn't it twice? I feel like it was twice. Sure. No. You'd think I remember that. Yeah. I think, I think it was twice. And I think so. Yeah. And it never happened.

We got onto the altar though. Whose wedding? Yeah. Because we were out on that bluff out in Malibu. Wasn't that Brandon and Kelly? No, that was Dylan and- That was Dylan and Rebecca. Rebecca. That was a beautiful wedding. But ours was in the backyard of your house. That's right. And we stopped mid-wedding or something. That's right. I feel like you're right.

What season was that in? Have you watched that one already? I don't think so. I hope not because that's a real sad testament to my brain right now. Oh my God. Do you have a good memory?

I feel like I have a pretty good memory. I do have some gaps in the show, though. And it's hard for people to understand, but when you're producing that much material every day and the work pace is so frantic and frenetic, right? Because we've got to get through these nine pages and we've got to do it in 11 hours. And you have to be here at 6 a.m. Yeah. Yeah.

At a certain point in time, it just becomes like one long day, right? The whole season just felt like it was one day.

Yeah, it really did. Yeah. And so there are going to be gaps and that's that. Some people bring up episodes. I'm like, we did that? Really? But it's sort of like the event episodes are the ones that sort of stand out to me, right? You know, Burt Reynolds came to our set and was a guest star on the show or, you know, the camping episode and, you know, stuff like that, right? Those sort of event ones. Yeah.

stand out more in my mind than just... Have you ever watched the show? Hanging out in the Walsh house. Um...

uh i i watched the uh i watched the first season and a half with my daughter because she was she was uh she was after a while she was like oh okay then i don't need to see any more of that she didn't get hooked oh that sucks now she was like this was during covid so she was 12

13 maybe? I mean, that's kind of been the sweet spot, I would think. Wait, but did you want – were you like into it? Did you want to keep watching? Or were you like, yeah, let's turn it off? No, I was okay to turn it off. Oh, no. I can't take my eyes off of it. I can't wait for every week watching another episode. Not only does it just like remind me of who I am and who I was then and how far I've come. Like we've changed –

We've changed. It's weird. We've not changed at all, but we've changed so much. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. When we talk to each other and we are together, all of us, it's as if nothing has changed. Yeah. We fall back into all the same old patterns and it's fun. I love it. Yeah. I do too. I do too. I always look forward to when we're all going to be together because I enjoy that.

when everybody just reverts back to the way they were in their early 20s. It's awesome.

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If you could go back in your life and do it all over again, would you? And do it again? Do it all again. Knowing what I know now? Yes. You would? If I could know what I know now, absolutely. What is it that you know now that changes that for you? Oh, I feel like I didn't know anything about how the world worked or...

what was really like, I, like I, I understood what was happening, but we were in such a bubble. Yeah. And I, and I understand it so much better now, like that, you know, like the TV series that I, that I, that I do now, I, it's just a different experience just because I have so much more experience and, and,

I never, I, you know, I never, I, you know, on that show, I felt like a hamster on a wheel and I had to just keep running as fast as I could, or I was going to, you know, the wheel was going to overtake me and spit me out. Right. Like, uh, and I, and I don't find myself ever feeling like that, uh, nowadays. And so if I, if I could go back, if I could go back to our show and do it again, I,

Knowing what I know now, I would absolutely do that. Do you think you would have more appreciation for all the little things? Yeah, I think I would appreciate it more. I think I would have more fun. I don't know about that. You had a pretty good time, as I recall. Yeah, I did okay. Yeah, we all did okay.

Yeah, we had good times on that show. We all talk about how hard we worked, and we did. We worked incredibly hard. But we had tons of good times. And also, I think that's what's bonded us all together.

Like I said, we would all go out as a group. Especially when we were shooting those season finale episodes where we were always in a hotel and we would all just stay in the hotel. It's like we were our characters when the camera was rolling, but the second the camera wasn't rolling, we still treated one another as if we were our characters somehow. It was so intertwined and woven together and confusing. Yeah.

So confusing. Do you ever feel like you are 10 years behind?

developmentally, maybe you eight and a half years behind, developmentally, like in your emotional intelligence perhaps, like you had – because we didn't go to college. We didn't experience those extremely formative times of learning what independence was. We were all just slammed into being adults, having adult bills and responsibilities and full-time jobs at such a young age.

And like I said, when we were in a bubble, do you ever feel like, because I feel this way, like I didn't develop fully and I had to play catch up like in my 30s and even my 40s of just developing emotionally. Yeah. Do you feel that way? I did. Yeah. When I first left the show, I found myself playing catch up.

Also catch up like socially and because like we were always at work and it was like, you know, I had some growing up to do as well. Like don't that I feel like I feel like that's pretty normal. And I think if you didn't feel like you had to do any growing up, that would be a problem. Yeah.

It didn't dawn on me for a good 10 years, though, that I'm like, I'm living as if I'm that age still, and I'm communicating as if I'm that age, and that doesn't work for a person my age. I should be able to handle my emotions in a different way or communicate in a different way, a more mature way, but I just had relied on that so much for so long. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's good that you recognized it, but that is totally normal. And I went through the same thing. That's interesting. I thought I was the only one. No. Well, okay. Do you remember that? I love this. I keep remembering things. Do I remember this correctly? You had a really bad racing accident. Yes. Yes.

And you died or almost died? Oh, no, I died. My heart stopped a couple of times. Where was this and when was this? This was in Sparta, Kentucky, August 11, 2002. And I, you know, big racing incident. You know, I was racing Indy Lights and I was racing, you know, 200 mile an hour open wheel oval cars. And, yeah.

I never liked that when you were doing that. It was my turn to have a big crash. And I had one. And they put me in the helicopter that was at the track just in case. And I was bleeding out so fast. What were your injuries? Oh, I...

Broke my nose. I pulled my nose off my face, actually. It was really disgusting. I broke my orbital bone, my cheekbone, my ocular mantle, three skull fractures. I broke my back, my ninth thoracic vertebrae. I shattered both my feet. Yeah, that was it. So not too bad.

And then I was bleeding so quickly because both of my carotid arteries, you can see those scars I have right there. Those are from my seatbelts. So even though my seatbelts were outside my racing suit, I hit the wall with such impact that my seatbelts cut into my carotid arteries. So I was bleeding. I was spraying blood seven feet in the air.

Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. It was everything. It was all of the things. And then so they put me in the helicopter to fly me to University of Kentucky to stabilize me. I went back to the track and I met the pilots who flew me. And I said, so how bad was that, guys? When they put me in the back of the helicopter, how bad was I? They were like, oh, dude, you were dead.

You were, you were, you were, you, your heart was barely beating. You were bleeding to death right in front of us. But, but we were like, yeah, we'll make the trip. Maybe he'll make it. And then my heart stopped in a helicopter on the way there. And did you see anything? I did not see anything. You didn't see the light? No, that may just be for the special people.

Oh, you're not special. By the special people, I mean the good people. You're good. I think it was there. You just didn't notice it. Oh, my God. The blood was in the way or something. I was too busy dying to notice the light that was shining in my eyes. This story just takes me back to that moment of trauma. How did you hear about that? Did you see it on TV, like on the crawl on the bottom of TV? Or did somebody call you? Did Luke call you maybe? I don't remember, Jason.

Because Luke was the first guy to be at the hospital when I woke up. He was there, which was amazing. He was that way, though, wasn't he? Yeah, he was. Yeah, he really was. He was special. I remember I was in the hospital once with a really bad kidney infection and anemia, and he came to visit me. He was the one at my bedside. Oh, wow.

It really, that's such a special time. Did you tell him how much you loved him at that point in time? No, I never told him. Okay. I mean, with words.

I think he knew. I'm pretty sure he knew. Okay, this is a deep question. You guys had the funniest relationship. What was it even? I mean... Well, you know, one minute you're expressing your love for him, the next minute you're spraying panaca in his eye. Like, I don't know, it was...

You guys were, you guys had this, and it was fun. It was fun to watch. You guys had this like. Fun for you. Push, pull, push, pull thing. It was fun to watch. I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was the show within the show. Good times. Yeah. I wouldn't trade it for the world though. Especially the moment when I sprayed binoculars in his eye.

Okay, I want to ask you this. Oh my God, do you remember when I was shooting? I'm going to backtrack just for one second. Okay, go. Rewind. So remember the 60s episode, the flashback episode that I shot? And Luke's character had this like Volkswagen bus and he had a wig. That's right. Oh my God. Do you remember shooting that? Nope. What happened? Did something fun happen? Oh my God, what happened?

Dylan and Kelly were like in a van. Yes, they were in a van. You guys were in the van and you guys were making out. We literally, me and Diana Valentine were behind the monitor like, did someone get a bucket of water?

And we got a couple of little caps in there. I feel like I'm blushing. I was like, no, keep it rolling. Just keep going, guys. Go further. You sicko. Hilarious. Oh, good stuff. Okay. We're going to wrap this up in a minute, but I want to ask you a couple of questions. What do you know in this life without a doubt? What is it that you know?

Without a doubt. Wow. I know. At this point in time in my life, the one thing that I, well, I mean, besides the fact that I love my kids and my kids love me and stuff like that, but I know that I know how to make stuff, and not just stuff like chairs or chests or drawers, but I know how to make content.

Um, and, and I, so I have, I have supreme confidence in my abilities to, uh, to create content and that's, and that's been, you know, that's been a new thing. Like that's really only come to me in probably the last five or six years. Is that inner confidence like that has just, you can't keep it down anymore. You believe it now.

No, yeah, I totally, yeah, 100%. And, you know, because, you know, even sort of in the middle part of my career as a director, you know, you're always questioning, oh, is that the right thing? Or should I do that? You know, you're always questioning yourself. And now I just, I mean, I'm always questioning myself to make the project better, but it's not that I am questioning my abilities at all.

And that's been a new thing. And that's a thing that sort of happened to me in my 50s. And I think, you know, when I was younger and I would hear people talk about, oh, wait till you get to your 40s, wait till you get to your 50s, man, it all changes. And I think that's what people were talking about. It's the fact that you just...

As your life goes on and you gather more information and you know more stuff because you've done more stuff, you get to a point where you're like, I know how to do this now. And that feeling of confidence, I think, is...

It's great. It's wonderful to have. It gives you a sense of freedom, doesn't it? From that overthinking. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, who's got time to be insecure? Like, right. Let's just get on with it. I can't waste any more of my precious days on this earth being insecure. I really work. I mean, that is so clear to me, too. No, it's just not worth it. And I spent so much time.

Doing that. Being insecure? Yeah. Really? I think the industry, I think all of us in the industry are insecure. We don't know where our next job is coming from. Yep. We don't know, you know, we know there's somebody else that could do the role we're doing. We just happen to have gotten it. Yeah.

I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. That's the variable for the money. That's me. Okay. How do you hope people remember you? Wow. I just hope people remember me as someone who's good at their job and good to his friends and loved his family.

Like I, that's all I, I don't, I, you know, to talk about legacy is, is something that I don't think I'm quite old enough to start doing that yet. You got to start planning for it though. I feel like you already are. You already have it. You're tapped in. Yeah. I got plans.

I got a plan. I'm yeah. I'm in plan. You know, you, you, you get to a certain point and you start, you start looking to the future and you're like, Oh, so how many more years am I actually going to do this? And how many, where am I? How's that going to work? And what am I going to do? And,

Yeah. I'm working on those plans, the retirement plans. Is it a five-year or 10-year? Tell me. I'm at 10 years. 10 years. Yeah, I'm 10 years. Yeah. Okay. Then you'll be what? 60? I'll be 65. 65. That's your deadline. Okay. Yeah. I was going to go with 60. I might back that up to 62. Okay. But I feel like

I feel like, look, you know, I still really enjoy what I do. Like I, I, I enjoy acting. I really enjoy directing and producing, you know, so I, I still really like it. So I'm, and my golf game's not that good yet. So until my golf game gets better than my director game, I think I'm going to keep,

Directing. I mean, yeah. How's your golf game? Have you talked to anybody on this podcast about golfing yet? No, I don't think so.

Because you're a golfer now. You've become a golfer in the last couple of years. Yeah, I did. And then I got my second hip replaced and I haven't played since. Oh. So it's been over a year since I played, but I'm actually going to be in a pro-am coming up real soon. So I figure I need to start swinging a golf club sometime before then. Yeah. I'm a little nervous. You're in a pro-am? What pro-am? I don't know the name of it off the top of my head. It's in Myrtle Beach. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

That sounds so professional. Yeah, it's not. I'm the weak link on the team. You're on the am side, not the pro side. For sure. Oh, man.

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I love hearing about your plans for the future because I have plans too. Like I want to be out when I'm 60. I want to have the choice when I'm 60 to really do only – and I'm kind of there now. I've been making some hard choices in my life about what I want to do and what I don't want to do. Like is there ever a time for you when, you know, you get offered a job, an acting role, and you're like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to spend my time on a set.

Acting. Yes, I do. I say no to a lot of projects. And to have that kind of freedom is wonderful.

you know because uh you know god knows that you know the life of anyone who works uh in the entertainment business you know sometimes you gotta take that job you don't really want to do because you got two kids in private school um and sometimes these things just happen but i've been i've been fortunate the last i don't know five six seven years that

that I've been, uh, you know, I get, I get offered enough projects that are compelling to me and that I, and that I want to pursue. And so I, I'm, I'm able to turn down a lot of stuff that I really don't want to do. Is there a project that you regret doing? Oh my God. So many. Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God. Uh, geez. Um,

The Highwaymen.

That didn't turn out the way that I thought it was going to. Oh, fancy dancing. That didn't turn out the way I thought it was going to. What? Oh, yeah. No, please don't. Wait, was it about dancing? I just need to know. You'll lose all respect for me if you ever. Okay, here's the thing. Can I Google this? Yes, you can. Of course you can. Good times tonight, people. Of course you can. I mean, you'll never get that 90 minutes back of your life. I promise. Fancy dancing.

Oh my God. I love it. You're so honest. I love it so much. So you are approaching the season finale of your current show wild cards on the CW. Yes, that's right.

That's right. How many seasons have you done? This is the season two. Only season two. What was the show before? Because I'm confusing them. Before that, I did a show for five years called Private Eyes. Private Eyes. Okay. Yeah. Wild Cards is completely different, people. Wild Cards is a different show. Yes.

And it's, you know, I play the dad now. I've run the whole gamut in my career. I started as the ingenue and now I'm the father of the ingenue. How's that feel?

Like really, like really tell me, how does that feel? You know what? I'll tell you how it feels. It feels awesome because I don't have to carry the freight every day. I just drop in every once in a while and do a couple scenes. And then I'm home sucking a brew. It's amazing. Sucking a brew.

Wait, you don't go home and suck brews. No, I don't. You don't do that. I know that about you. No, I don't. That's just a funny line that actually Tim Allen used to say on whatever show he was doing. And the DP told me, but he was like, yeah. And then the kids all thought he was saying home sucking a broom. And so they didn't understand. It was funny.

You are just – you have had so many experiences with so many different people. That's one of the reasons I love talking to you because you have great stories and you're a great storyteller. Like I'm not the best storyteller. I need people to fill in all my blanks. But you're such a good conversationalist. Wow. Thanks, Jenny. And also just like I taught – I'm really not just saying all this to make you like me more. But you –

Even like at our fan events, you're the guy on our team, our cast, that is the one that's like, come right in, take this picture with us. Like you're in charge of us. You tell us where to sit. We do it. Like whatever, we always defer to you. Like Jason, what should we do? You're like the big brother. Yeah. But again, that's the way it was back on the show too, right? Yeah.

For some reason, I just took on that mantle. Well, I mean, I was number one on the call sheet. So it was my job. It was your job. And it's just sort of remained my job. It's just in your genes. It is.

It is. And so, and so that being said, in furtherance to your previous question, so, you know, like being, being number one on the call sheet for as long as I have been, you know, being number five on the call sheet is like super liberating. I really, I kinda, I kinda dig it. I'm like, for real, it's fun. It's fun. It's fun to not have to just be top to bottom every day and carry the freight and,

you know, drive every scene. Like it's, it's fun to just kind of be a passenger for a minute. And you feel fulfilled. Oh yeah. And then what do you do when you're not working? I fly back home. Cause that's how little I work on that show. It's amazing. Like I fly, I fly to Vancouver for four days and shoot three episodes in those four and then come home.

And then be at home and, you know, taking care of my kids. Doing Pilates. And doing Pilates. That's right. You guys, I saw Jason not that long ago, a couple weeks ago, and you look amazing. You're in such great shape. Oh, thanks. Yes. Definitely not sitting back sucking brews. No. So Naomi, who you know, Naomi opened a Pilates studio. Yeah.

uh, here, uh, in Nashville. And so I, uh, I've been going to her Pilates studio a lot, uh, just, you know, to support my wife and somewhere along the, somewhere along the way, I discovered it's a, it's a pretty awesome workout if you do it really regularly. And, uh, so it's been, uh, it's been really good. I've been really enjoying it.

I never in my wildest dreams thought Jason Priestley would be doing Pilates. But I have to tell you, I want to do Pilates in the same class as you. That would be so fun.

All right. Well, come here anytime. Oh, yeah. Your wife is rad. She's always been an inspiration. She's so cool. You're such a lucky man. I certainly am. Every day. Every day. I don't want our conversation to end, but I know we all have other things to do in life. Before I let you go though, Jason Priestley, what was your last I choose me moment?

You know what? I choose me almost every day when I go to Pilates because it is a totally selfish endeavor. And whether I'm going there or I'm just going to the gym, I work out six days a week. But that's not selfish. I got to stop you. That's not selfish. It is. No, no, no, no, no. It's not selfish because you have to take care of yourself so that you can be there for your kids and you have to stay healthy.

Well, that's true. You're taking care of yourself so you can be a better caretaker and father figure. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't want you to feel like it's selfish. Okay. I don't think it's selfish in a bad way, but I feel like it is a self-serving act. I also want to keep myself in shape so I feel better.

Yes. Right? I mean, I, I, you know, being, being there for my kids and being a better father for my kids, and it's sort of a byproduct of it, but I feel, you know, I don't, I don't ever want to be that guy. And I was talking to another actor friend of mine about this the other night and talk, just talking about, you know, like getting older and how, you know, as we get older, our bodies start eating all our muscle mass. And so it's really important to, you know, to resistance train and, and keep your skin bag full and,

So you get, because if you, you know, once your body eats all its muscle, then your bones start to get brittle and you fall over and you break a hip. And next thing you know, you're, you're home sucking a brew. No, that doesn't work there. I mean, the aging thing, it's good to know that you have conversations like that with your friends because I do too. Yeah. Conversations I never saw myself having. Yeah.

But they matter. They mean something to me. And sharing like knowledge and information with people my same age worrying or thinking or focusing on the same things is so important. Yeah. That's one of the reasons I love doing this podcast because we can really share a lot of information with a lot of people. And I think that message of what you're doing and choosing yourself for yourself and as a byproduct for your family is

There's nothing wrong. That's what it's all about is taking care of yourself because guess what? Nobody else is going to do it. That's right. That's right. I learned so much about you today. You danced with Britney Spears and you did a show called Fancy Dancing. The guy who would never dance. Exactly. Brandon Walsh doesn't dance, you guys. Everybody knows that.

Oh, I don't want to say goodbye. I love you so much. Thank you, Jenny. I love you too. It's been really nice to talk to you today. I'll see you soon, I hope. Okay. I hope so too. Give Naomi and the kids my love. I sure will. Love to your girls. All right. Much love, Jen. Bye.

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