I Choose...To Talk About Menopause with Naomi Watts, Tamsen Fadal, and Dr. Eve Glazier
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I feel like I am still just riding so high from our first ever I Choose Me Live event today.

The day was so awesome. It was filled with so many incredible conversations. And now, guess what? I am going to share them with you here on the podcast. So it will be like you were there with us. Today, we're going to talk about our conversation on menopause, a topic none of us should be afraid to talk about. On this panel, we have the Oscar-nominated actress and author of Dare I Say It, Naomi Watts.

author and producer of the documentary, The M Factor, Shredding the Silence on Menopause, Tamsyn Fadal, and president of the UCLA Health Faculty Practice Group, Dr. Eve Glazier. But before we get into that incredible panel, I choose to talk about menopause. I want to thank some of our sponsors real quick.

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Just another set of incredible powerhouse women. Truly, these women have not even paused for a moment in their go-get-em careers because right now what they are doing is some incredible work all about menopause to release the stigma surrounding menopause. And so if you will please help me welcome our next panel, I choose to talk about menopause. So, woo! Yeah, right? I know, we need this. We need this.

So starting with the first one on our panel, Academy Award-nominated actress, entrepreneur, and author of the very new book, and you've got to get it if you don't have it, called Dare I Say It, Everything I Wish I'd Known About Menopause, Naomi Watts. All right, and next, the president of the UCLA Health Faculty Practice Group, Dr. Eve Glazer. Woo! Woo!

- What's your ink? Let me give you a hug. - Incredible documentary, "The M Factor," shredding the silence on menopause, Tamsen Fadal. - Tamsen!

Hello, beautiful. Welcome, welcome, ladies. This is a conversation that is so necessary. I'm sad I have to listen to it backstage, but I will be there with all of you, and I can't wait. Thank you, ladies, for joining us. Okay, this is it. This is the moment. Menopause is coming out, and it's about time, right? We've lived in this sort of secrecy. My mom never talked about menopause to me. I don't think maybe you have the same experience.

But now my kids just know what it is. That's amazing. They're ready for it. I mean, not ready for it, but you know, it's a part of life. We're all going to go through it. So why not talk about it? And you are using your platform in such a beautiful way. We've all loved you and your work in film. And you decided to write a book about menopause. Why? Hi, everyone. Basically, because I was 36 and trying to get pregnant didn't work.

know why I wasn't. So I went to the doctor who took some blood work and then he said the blood results suggested that I was quote unquote close to menopause. At 36? At 36 years old.

So I was obviously filled with panic and fear. And I walked out of the office in pieces. And to your point about your mother never talking to you, I never really had in-depth conversations with my mom, only that I did remember that at 45, she had gone through it.

that she said that she was 45 and it was early and unexpected. But I was still 36. So I was like, why didn't you tell me more about this? And she said, well, these were the conversations I never had with you because my mother never had them with me.

And that just like floored me. I was like, why? When it's half the population that are going to go through this, why would it be an untouchable conversation? That makes no sense. But it just speaks to where society was at for so long. Women had to navigate it by themselves. They barely spoke to their mothers, their friends, or even doctors. You just had to suck it up

grin and bear it. And that's just not great. I don't think, I think women are done with that kind of suffering and silence. Yeah. So done with it. Why do you think it is that, that now is the time for us to start talking about it? Dr. Eve Glacier. So happy you're here. I mean, now should have been yesterday, as we all know. I mean, I think thanks to, you know, amazing, um,

platforms, amazing forums as evidenced as the one today, Jenny, giving voice, I mean, I think is really now what's fueling the moment. I think more than ever, I have patients, I have friends, and talking about it, raising awareness, basically contributing and making our own narrative is really a way of empowering ourselves. And I think we've been waiting for this for a long time. This also has amazing ramifications for clinical research, for amazing books, for amazing documentaries.

And it's a way that we can share stories and help each other. And I think there's a real emphasis on that in our community of women. Tamsen, you've done something. You created the first ever documentary about menopause. What a trailblazer, you guys. I mean, tell us why you decided to do that.

Yeah. You know, we kept having the conversation among ourselves. That's what we continue to do. And I was a journalist for 30 years. And the only thing I really knew how to do was tell stories. And I'd listen to these stories over and over again from women that were suffering, doctors that were trying to get information out there, doctors that didn't know the information to get out there. And I thought, we got to start putting this together. And we set out to do that. And we got one response.

refusal and rejection after another, there's no audience for it. Nobody wanted to fund it. There's no audience for it.

Only half the world. Yeah. And we said, well, we're going to do it ourselves. So we set out and we said, all right, we'll try. We'll put it up on YouTube and see what happens. And then PBS said, you know what? We're going to put it up and we're going to partner with you. And so that's where it started. But I have to say, it's really been the women that have taken this and made a movement, a grassroots movement. They've come into community centers and churches and theaters and homes to share it. So it's been pretty amazing. Thanks to them.

Yes, Dr. Eve, I'm so happy to have you here. I know there are a lot of fans of yours in the audience, too. I heard you. What would you say? What are you finding most women medically are coming to you and asking you about? I think first and foremost, women are coming in and they're saying that they feel lonely. And I'm sure that you found this in your own research and in writing and making your documentary about

Most of all, I'm seeing women wanting to feel reassured that what they're going through is normal, right? And that having that expectation, but at the same time, they want to be acknowledged that their experience is individual and singular and that it matters. In terms of perimenopause and menopause, I'm getting a lot of questions, especially around weight gain and exercise during this time.

Do you think that that, I don't know, I feel like there's a whole resurgence of the feminine divine energy. Thank God. But do you think that that, the things that we said, I mean, I just had a conversation about menopause with my friend Gabrielle Carteris. I mean, you guys, are you sitting at lunch talking about menopause with your friends, your girlfriends? We talk about it all the time now. Definitely. You know, it's,

It's amazing how once that door was opened up a little crack, we all just barged in and said, oh, but this is happening for me. Is that happening for you? And it makes total sense. We have come together as women at every point in our lives, our first kiss, our first period, the first time we had sex, the first time we had sex.

first time we thought about babies or marrying or, you know, breastfeeding, all of these points we've needed to share how our experiences differ or how they can help each other. And, and this one was such a big one as well, um, that was left off the chain of storytelling or story sharing and which makes no sense. So I think now it's been opened up. It's,

it's created an ease. And I think women are free to talk by unlocking that, you know? Have you found that to be true, Tamsen? Well, I was going to say that. I think that's become a new dinner party conversation. I don't know about you, but every time my husband goes, are you bringing it up?

all the time or are people bringing it up to you? Why do we talk about this all the time when we talk to somebody? But I do think women feel, to your point, safer and seen and feel like, you know, that's what they want to talk about because they want to be able to share this with somebody. Yeah, I don't know why people haven't been talking about it. It's that kind of connection that we as women need to feel united with one another. And in that unity, we have the strength and the courage. It's a third of our lives.

Yeah, they have parties for us when we have, you know, birthdays and baby showers and all the things. But nobody has a party for us. I heard Dr. Mary Claire say this too. Yeah, we should have menopause parties. Yeah.

I feel like we should have our own menopause party. Well, and to Naomi's point, too, I mean, we would never separate puberty, right, from being a woman. So why would we separate this experience of menopause? And I think that continuum of being a woman, you know, thinking about that in a much more holistic continuum of care away is really important. We should be celebrating it all along. Mm-hmm.

Let's talk about research and access to funding for that research. Things are starting to change. Things are starting to go in the right direction. We still have a long way to go, I know. But what are your thoughts on the research that's happening? What are the newest things that you've learned that you could share with us?

You know, we definitely have a long way to go. And we have to make sure we keep talking about it and keep pushing forward. It's really essential. And that nothing derails that. You know, I always go to Dr. Lisa Moscone, the neuroscientist that we talked to, who has done tremendous, tremendous research in the area of women's brain health and dementia and menopause. So that's exciting to me.

I think, you know, where we need to be looking, we need to give women more answers, two areas. One, women that are survivors of breast cancer that are looking for other options out there and may not be able to do hormone therapy. And then women so they're not confused about hormone therapy because there was a, well, you should speak better to this, but

But there was a study in 2002 that left a lot of women feeling very, very confused and they don't know what to do and they don't know who to believe. And we have to give them evidence of what we're all talking about every single day. What was that? What was that? It was the National Institute of Health and it was a longitudinal women's study.

What I would add is that it's also confusing for providers. I mean, I've had, you know, I've grown up with most of my patients and the things that we were talking about in the late 1990s to 2002, and now it's evolved. But when you ask sort of what I think is the cornerstone of evolving, I think it's what I'm happy to report is that we're coming from a place of much more humility. At least I can say that for UCLA and my colleagues, you know, all over Los Angeles, a place of humility where we can say, wait, the

The research is evolving. What we now know, we're listening to patients. Tell me what works for you, right? So, you know, what's an individual tailored treatment, right? Do hormones work for you? Do non-hormonal treatments work for you? It's almost like precision medicine. How do we feel about hormone replacement therapy at this point? I feel good about it.

It works for me. I've been on it for over a decade. And I would just say, in continuum of what you were saying, everyone should go to their doctor and be prepared with a list of your symptoms, questions, read up on it, be your own best advocate, be the CEO of your body, you know better, and

bring in your medical history, your family's medical history, and you're entitled to have a full conversation about it, what is safe for you. And it's obviously always your choice. And if the symptoms are unbearable, you should...

Look into treatment. Don't suffer just because you were told because of this study that it might cause harm. You know, I think you really just have to at least have your doctor look you in the eye and say,

give you the options based on your history, your medical history. Right. And if they tell you it's not an option, go see a different doctor. No gatekeeping. That's right. I couldn't agree more. I mean, I really just want to say it's not even just one conversation. You have to often advocate and fight for multiple conversations, you know, look into their eyes multiple times. It is okay to break up with your provider. I mean, that's a lot about choosing yourself. Put yourself first. I promise you that

that person is not going home at night and is like, oh, Eve's not seeing me anymore. No, like it's all about you and you need to choose the right person for you. And that might change over time. So that person that might felt like they were a good partner, it's like any relationship, right? You then need to keep on choosing yourself. It's very dynamic. And your symptoms might change as well. I mean, perimenopause, menopause, it's tricky. Yeah.

It's a long word. It's a long word. There was such a stigma about talking about it, especially with you, Tamsen, when you started noticing your symptoms and you were a broadcaster. What happened for you when you decided to leave that industry that you were in and make this your focus?

You know, it was a decision that I made because I couldn't stop talking about it. I couldn't stop feeling that this was the right choice. I had a lot of people that say, you're going to ruin your career. Like, I don't know what you're doing. Jumping on social media, talking about this. You're telling everyone your age, essentially. And so I had some reservations. I was nervous about it at first. But then I realized the number of women that I was hearing from that were getting help and these, like,

raw and emotional stories. And I just couldn't stop. And so I feel really good about it. I feel like we're seeing women come together globally. I've met a community that I could never have imagined meeting and sharing with. And that's made all the difference in the world. I understood community before. It's like, I got some good friends. I never understood this definition of community. Yeah.

It's so much different now when we're talking about things that we were so scared to talk about before. There's such a vulnerability there and that sense of connection. No matter how different we are or where we come from, we're all inevitably going to go through this. So we should better be talking about it.

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Hi, this is Joel. And Matt from the How to Money podcast. We're almost out of the cold winter months, and the way I plan to help myself make it through is to think about how to make it through.

of the great travel I have planned this summer, like the road trip I want to take with my kids out west. I'm going to take the whole month off, head towards Seattle for my cousin's wedding, buy a car. I'm already plotting all the different Airbnbs we can stay at along the way. Nice. I think that's a great idea. There's nothing like a cross-country road trip during the summer months, and staying at Airbnbs is a great way to experience all the different towns and cities on the route.

Plus, while you're gone for this long stretch of time, you could also be hosting guests in your home on Airbnb, making some extra money in the process. I was an Airbnb host myself for a while, and I loved it. It was easy, and it gave me the chance to make some extra cash. And now hosting your home is easier than ever on Airbnb with the co-host teacher. Access a network of high-quality local co-hosts who can help you handle everything from getting your home ready to helping your guests once they arrive with whatever they may need.

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Find Kali Power's Dill Pickle Pizza now at Whole Foods Market nationwide. It's time to taste the buzz everyone's talking about, and it's kind of a big deal. Naomi, you shared a sweet story in your book, which is so great. And by the way, I want you to know, I think if you haven't already discovered, it's in your gift bags. So that is so exciting. Thank you.

But you shared a story in there, and I think you talked about it on Drew Barrymore, about your first experience sharing your fears with your partner. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's a frightening conversation. Yes, it's quite a detailed story that I'll save for the reader, you know, the graphic parts. But yes, it was a moment where it was quite defining because...

it was met with such compassion and empathy because I, something that I was fearing and holding onto, I managed to just own and, you know, name it and share it with him. And he, he was like, how can I help? And it just sort of speaks to, um,

People want to know. They want to help. And they want to be in on the story that you're going through. So if you are flailing and feeling like you're losing your mind, you know, bring people, especially those who are close to you, into it. And they know how to behave.

When things are left to a mystery, they are going to be making it up and think, you know, it's other things, perhaps something that they're doing wrong or whatever. Yeah, this was a very sweet story. And I ended up marrying this guy. Yeah.

You made a good choice. And he also made it possible because it confirmed that it is good to lean into your vulnerabilities and they do become your strengths and they are liberating when you, you know, unlock secrets. And yeah, I...

It was just... The story is, it's a funny story of me having to slip away into the bathroom and take off my patch because I was afraid. Her estrogen patch. My estrogen patch, which is surely not sexy. Well, it's not...

You can't really notice it except for the gummy residue that it leaves. It looks like all over your stomach. Yeah, it's horrible. So I just disappeared for too long. And he was like, are you okay? Are you not in the mood? And I was like,

Well, I just, I have, look, I have this thing on my body. It's my menopause patch. I'm getting treatment. But, you know, I'm probably just, should I just leave? You know, I was like, I'm sure he just thinks this is so not.

You know, anyway, he was like, oh, my God, I'm so glad you're getting treatment. This is, you know, we're the same age and how can I help? He sounds like a very sensitive, empathetic guy. I think there are probably a lot of men out there that don't know anything about menopause. And they need to learn about it. They need to be around women that are talking about it because they're going to be with a woman that is in menopause at some point.

What about perimenopause? Because nobody was talking about that. And it's still a topic that people aren't talking about as much. I mean, it kind of gets lumped in with menopause. But perimenopause is this like slow creep. And I mean creep into full-blown menopause. It's like the on-ramp or the off-ramp, I guess. I don't know.

But it is... Dr. Eve, talk about the difference between perimenopause and menopause. Sure. So menopause just...

diagnosis definition just means cessation, i.e. stop of period for at least 12 months. Perimenopause refers to the transition leading up to that cessation. But as you know, we use those words and conflate them a lot, which is completely fine for the sake of conversation. But as I was mentioning, like with puberty, we should be talking about perimenopause

Because I do think one of the big things that is so distressing is we start having symptoms. We wonder what's happening. Is it normal? How long is it going to go on? And then, you know, are there ways to mitigate? And I think if we're talking about perimenopause, getting ready for those transitions. So, for example...

as I mentioned, a lot of people are concerned about what foods they should be eating, what exercise. Well, let's shore up our forces, right, before we're in menopause. Let's start doing weight-bearing exercise. Let's start making sure we're eating enough protein to maintain our muscle mass. So I think that it's all about that expectation and, again, filling that knowledge gap because the more information that you have, and this is why I'm in such admiration of the two of you at

changes lives to have information because then you can make decisions for yourself, which is again, choosing yourself and that's power. What about hot flashes?

What's the science behind that? The science behind is really we have this hypothalamus. I love saying all these words out loud. Hypothalamus, that's fun. Which is the internal regulator of your brain. And what estrogen does is it kind of messes with that internal regulation and it tells your internal thermostat, you're really hot, which then your brain then sends signals to your blood vessels, your spike glands to cool off. Okay.

So you're not really hot. Your brain just tells you you're hot. It's trickery. I feel hot. Like, I believe it. Yeah, that's one of the symptoms. What are some other symptoms that we can prepare ourselves with? Because I know for like young girls, we don't really talk about or think about our periods until we get them.

Right? So there's, like I said, that slow creep, the perimenopause, you don't know what's happening to you. You think maybe it's in your head. You think nobody else is having you. I mean, it could be a myriad of things that you're suffering from because these symptoms are so sort of vague and all over the place. And we're really just learning so much about all of the symptoms. Yeah.

Well, what's confusing too is this is also occurring during a time where we're getting older. So some of our symptoms are actually, they're not just mapped to menopause or hormones. They're also mapped to changes in our life and aging. And so it can be very confusing to discern, you know, which symptom is which. So yes, to your point, go ahead.

I was going to crack a joke. Please. We like jokes. Like when someone breathes too loud. Oh, the loud breather.

No, it is. It's a multitude of things and the knowledge gap is absolutely right. I didn't know that migraines were menopause related. I didn't know that dry skin was menopause related. I also ticked on, you know, every medical form I had each time I started a new job as actors, we have to do that. Night sweats, night sweats, night sweats, every single time for years and it went completely wrong.

you know, unnoticed. They were like, oh, are you allergic to something or are you stressed or, you know? Maybe use a fan. Yeah, just, yeah. And it was, no one connected the dots. So to your point about feeling like you're losing yourself, the perimenopause stage, I would say is the worst part. And then when you get to menopause, you feel yourself again. You feel like you're getting yourself back.

because things are stabilized because of these unpredictable shifts of hormones rising and falling. And that is a good moment. And I think that's when you're like, you really start sharing, the community strengthens around you and you're more willing to talk about it. It's the isolation and half the soul is isolated.

Being able to talk, owning what it is that you're going through and getting help. I think it comes, you know, there's that age when we talked about it earlier when you start to feel invisible or disregarded by society. And then you have this roller coaster that's so kind of gray for a lot of us. And then it just further sends you into that sort of isolation. Yeah.

and pulling away from learning more and communicating more and sharing more. So again, like what you women are doing to spread awareness using your platforms, that is vital to everybody

in life, you know? And that is a new thing that's developed recently and I just think it's so wonderful. And if anybody doesn't like it, they can just go somewhere else. I love that part. I will also say this. I think that we as women have been afraid to age because of what society has done. So this also comes at that time.

Some of the other symptoms like brain fog make you feel like you just like can't keep up. And I think that that causes a lot of fear. But to know that there are solutions, to know that you're not alone dealing with that, I think that that makes you feel not so isolated because it is that isolation and fear of talking about it. I think that is really difficult. It was difficult for me to overcome. ♪

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clinical testing to back up their promises. Using these products exclusively, I've really noticed a dramatic difference in my skin. It's smoother, I feel glowy, and it reduces my fine lines. I feel like my face just looks softer and everybody wants to know what I've been using. Well, it's Perricone MD. Perricone MD works as hard as I do, and it shows. Go to perriconemd.com and use code JENNY for an exclusive 40% off discount.

for a limited time. That's paraconemd.com, code Jenny, J-E-N-N-I-E. Everyone's talking about the weight loss benefits of GLP-1 medications, but let's be honest, they can be hard to get and extremely expensive. That's where Henry Meds comes in. Whether you have insurance or not, Henry Meds makes compounded GLP-1 weight management treatments affordable and accessible for everyone that qualifies.

You could save over $1,000 a month compared to brand name versions with no hidden fees or surprise costs. It's time to start your weight management journey with Henry Meds. Visit henrymeds.com today. Results may vary. Not all patients are eligible. Compounded medications are not FDA approved. Consult a healthcare provider to determine if treatment is right for you.

Hi, this is Joel and Matt from the How to Money podcast. We're almost out of the cold winter months, and the way I plan to help myself make it through is to think of the great travel I have planned this summer, like the road trip I want to take with my kids out west. I'm going to take the whole month off, head towards Seattle for my cousin's wedding by car. I'm already plotting...

all the different Airbnbs we can stay at along the way. Nice. I think that's a great idea. There's nothing like a cross-country road trip during the summer months, and staying at Airbnbs is a great way to experience all the different towns and cities on the route. Plus, while you're gone for this long stretch of time, you could also be hosting guests in your home on Airbnb, making some extra money in the process.

I was an Airbnb host myself for a while and I loved it. It was easy and it gave me the chance to make some extra cash. And now hosting your home is easier than ever on Airbnb with the co-host teacher. Access a network of high quality local co-hosts who can help you handle everything from getting your home ready to helping your guests once they arrive with whatever they may need. Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host.

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And I thought there was something wrong with me. I thought that maybe I was going to develop dementia. I thought I was like having early Alzheimer's or half-heimers, as I like to call it. But what is the brain fog all about, Dr. Eve? I mean, they're still researching this, but a lot of this is this amazing power of estrogen. And, you know, Tamsen and Naomi, please chime in. But a lot of it is the estrogen really affects the connectivity, you know, really the synapses talking to each other. In the brain, it's very real. And, you know,

Nami, when you were just saying about once you kind of go through it and emerge, a lot of times people do notice that the brain fog has dissipated once menopause has set in, you know, so once the perimenopause has completed. I felt so happy when my doctor told me I was in the menopause and not in the perimenopause.

And I felt like, oh, thank God that's over. You've arrived. It gets a lot better for anybody who's in Perry. Go right in there to the menopause. You'll be happy you did. And talk about it to your daughters. I mean, you have daughters who... Do you have... You don't have children. Right. But you have three and you have a daughter and a son, correct? What is the conversation like for you? Because I'm curious too with my three daughters, like how...

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is about hydration from scalp to vag. Oh my God, we need hydration. Yes, we definitely need hydration. I'm wearing full Monty right now, by the way. Oh, good, good. You guys got to try stripes. Yeah. This brand is amazing. It smells so good. So thank you. Yes, people love the fragrance. So they heard me speaking about menopause ad nauseum for years and I thought, oh, I wonder what they know.

And I asked them both. One of them said, isn't it when old ladies die? I said, no. Okay, next. Oh, isn't it when you wet the bed, mommy? Because clearly I'd had a night sweat and, you know,

crept into bed. And that was, that was that. So it just goes to show you. And I started saying, well, this is why the conversation should come in the, in the sex ed and in fifth grade or sixth grade, whenever it is, this is the beginning of a woman's hormonal journey. All these things can happen in between. And then this is the bookend to that. But it's not the end. It's just a

different chapter. From there on, we are in a nice other place that is very freeing and it's quite, yeah, liberating to not have your hormones driving decisions. I want to talk, it's so true. Just when I thought I got a handle on things, perimenopause came in with the emotional rollercoaster. So that wasn't very fun. But I want to talk to you about the sex.

Because what, so the libido drops during peri or during full-on menopause? Does it get better? Is it going to get better? I think everything is going to get better. I'm asking for everything. I default to optimism. But yes, the libido does drop. And libido drops for men as well. So irrespective of who your partner is.

You know, Tamsen, you alluded to this too, I think, just with aging. There's so many negative connotations about aging and competition about sex, right, and being sexy. But this to me, and Naomi, this is, I think, what you're talking about is, you know, it's the lubrication, lubrication, lubrication, but also sex.

communication, communication, communication. So yes, things drop, but they drop and they change and they evolve. And again, I think that's an ongoing conversation, but yes, you know, biologically the estrogen drops, testosterone drops. So that's definitely something we just see biologically with aging. Did you guys read that New York times article? Women are having the best sex. Of course. Wait, wait, women are having the best sex when?

At this stage in their lives, in their 50s. Like backstage. So it gets better. It does get better. Yeah. To your point, educate, communicate, lubricate. Everything is...

Yes. Possible. You just got to get organized. You got to get a handle on things. Yeah. And our children, our daughters, our sons, they see us thriving. I mean, what do your daughters see? They have to see you thriving. They, I mean, I can't speak for them, but they are in awe of me. Like...

Because they, yeah, they saw me growing up as this girl on TV, you know, the it girl, the whatever. And now they've seen me through all my ups and all my downs. They've seen me rise and fall. But they, I've loved that they've gotten to see all those parts of me, even the parts that have been embarrassing and that I may

maybe wish I hadn't showed them, but I'm so glad that I was very open and honest with them so that they know what is in store for them and they know they can handle anything. It's so important. What, Tamsen, what do you do to stay feeling sexy during menopause? During menopause? Uh, you know, I didn't, I didn't feel sexy during Perry, that's for sure. And I was just starting to, um,

date my now husband so I had all those ups and downs and roller coasters and period that came out of nowhere and I'd like run into a bathroom so I didn't feel very sexy then uh I I feel like now I really do communicate and he's he's heard more than he ever wants to hear about menopause and everything in between um but yeah I'm really open and honest about it I I have um

you know, incorporated things that I think even surprise him sometimes. And, you know, when I take out lube, he's like, what, what, oh, what? So, you know, I'm not shy about anything anymore. And I think I used to be. I think I didn't used to communicate. I'd be like, you know what to do, right? Like, you know, anybody, any partner. And I think now that I really do talk through it all. And I also think my sexy though, or in my head anyway, comes from feeling just more confident in who I am now during this time and knowing what I will do

and what I won't and what makes me really feel good about myself inside. And I don't know, I wake up every day right now real excited about the day and the message and what we're doing. So that kind of makes me feel sexy. You should feel excited. You should feel excited. You're doing, I'm going to be a part of it. Yes, you're doing a forum situation. Can you tell us about it? Because it's going to be amazing. Well, you're talking about a party. So I was telling you. A menopause party.

Yes, it's a menopause party. I wanted to do something to celebrate the women that came out for the documentary. And I know March is Women's Month. So we're going to throw the world's hottest menopause party on March the 1st in Vegas. It's free. Vegas, baby.

Virtually free. Yeah, it's going to be in Vegas. But everyone can come in and we want to make sure women around the world have access to the information for free. I think that's just super, super important. So that's what we're going to do March 1st. We're going to have a lot of experts there, a lot of familiar faces there. And so I'm real excited about it. I wanted women to be able to celebrate this time, not fear it. And everyone said, you're calling it a menopause party? And I said, yeah, it's kind of a

party I think I think that's where we are now we need to celebrate this time so that's what that's what we're doing March 1st and you're using all of your journalistic yes capabilities because you're so fabulous yes I'm super super excited I am we're gonna have monitors all over the

place that women can screen in and ask questions and get information because I just think that's the only way we're going to get this word out there. And I hope, you know, we have young women coming in and I hope they see their moms coming in. So yeah, I'm real excited about it. I'm excited about it. Me too. I think it would be a great time to do a little Q&A if you guys are open to it.

I hope that you all have questions because I know I did and do. Amy Sugarman, I see you have a microphone. I do. Is this thing on? Yes. I have questions. First of all, all the ladies wearing blankets are not in menopause because it is always hot. Well, no, because sometimes you're really hot and then instantly it changes to you're freezing. Not for me. Okay. Always hot. Who has a question? Don't be shy. Don't be shy. What's your name?

Hi, Nancy. I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming. Careful of your foot, Amy. I know. I broke my ankle, but I'm fine now. Nancy, where are you from? Orange County. What is your question?

So I'm wondering about the length of this lovely transition. I'm 55. I think I'm over the hump, but I still have the ragey moments. And so I'm just wondering about typically how long it is. I asked my mom and my sister and they're like, like seven years. So I don't know.

Dr. Eve, how long does this last? I'll start, but please chime in. The perimenopause, which often begins with irregular periods, hot flashes, difficulty sleeping, you can see how it often overlaps with other things and other challenges in our life, but sometimes even five to seven years before the period actually stops. And we don't have a lab test per se. It's really, you go to your doctor and you say, I haven't had a period for 12 months without spotting, without any irregularities. So five to seven years, perimenopause,

That's, that's, oh, we have another question. Yeah, bunch down here. Lorraine, Lorraine's up there too. So we're going to take care of people up, up above too. I'll do one right here and then we'll go to you, Lorraine. What's your name? Hi, my name is Julie and I'm from Denver. I'm also 55. And I feel like I've been in perimenopause for about 10 years. But I'm also a breast cancer survivor. And just, I've tried all of the,

western medicine options and i cannot find anything the brain fog night sweats it's just i don't know any suggestions other than estrogen because i can't do the patch

I think that it's important to talk about it holistically. And sometimes when I think about the word holistically, I think it's just Eastern medicine. But you talk about the fact that it's embracing all the modalities. It is, absolutely. And again, Naomi and Tamsyn should chime in. First of all, I'm sorry for everything you're going through. And I just had a patient yesterday who's...

and during the same thing like really um difficult symptoms and then doesn't have certain you know modalities available um vioza which is a neuro kind i don't know if you've tried that but it's a nk3 receptor receptor antagonist and it's just been fda approved so that that's non-hormonal and it targets the thermoregulator center in the brain that's a game changer for um hot flashes um

That's the newest one, I would say, in terms of help with that. I will say also there's some work done at UCLA. The brand name is Cleoatra, so that's not UCLA, but there is a brand where there is an estrogen that doesn't bind to the estrogen receptors in the breast. And so that is something that's coming to market very soon. So again, getting the benefit of hormone therapies, but without the risk to the breast tissue.

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Somebody with an IUD. An IUD changed my life with endometriosis. But now I feel like I'm having all this stuff going on and the period isn't, or not having a period is not a signal. So what are your suggestions on, I've asked doctors, they're like, oh, you're in full menopause. And then they gave me estrogen cream. And then I had a full period and got all my cramps back. So maybe someone that's had experience with an IUD. Yeah.

The symptoms aren't, because usually with an IUD, you don't get your period. A lot of people don't get their period. So you're saying it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell. Am I just old and tired or is a brain fog, right? Am I just cramping because I got gas or is a brain, you know what I mean? Like all the things that go along what you guys were saying, the symptoms. With an IUD, I think there's a lot of things you can't tell because it does stop the period for some people. I can't answer that. Okay.

I don't know any medical, because I've been to three different doctors. I'll definitely take a try. I mean, it is so hard when there's so many variables. And I just want to kind of start with, you know, you did mention holistic. And I did want to mention as well that what's so also hard about this perimenopause, menopause time is that often, and I'm

I'll get to your question too, is that, right, we feel tired, we have difficulty sleeping, we have anxiety. This also coincides with times in our lives where our parents are sick, where, you know, we have career changes, relationship changes, you know, we're tired. So a lot of it can be conflated. With the IUD, I don't know if you have a copper or plastic, you don't have to tell me now, but I, I,

would um i would remove the variable i think it's very very hard to sort of start you know too many different things because then you're like well which one actually made the difference so if you um from here you look 25 but if you are paramenopausal um i i would consider maybe taking out the iud if you're actually bleeding through because that shouldn't happen and the creams shouldn't um naomi and i were just talking the creams shouldn't give you a full period either

Yes. Yeah. So that sounds, that does sound more like, you know, perimenopause. And even with the IUD, it's really more of a mechanical barrier. So it has a tiny bit of progesterone sometimes, but you still might need, you know, the hormone therapy as well, if that's something that you're a candidate for. But definitely. Who has a question down here? I love all these questions. You are so brave. This is what it's all about. Hi, I'm Lorena. Oh.

I'm Lorena from San Francisco. I'm a massage therapist, so going back to the holistic, and I also do HRT myself. It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. They can complement each other, so that's really important to remember. Earlier today, there was a talk about PCOS with one of the speakers. Have you seen any additional severity and symptoms for someone that already has PCOS and then going through the perimenopause stage? No.

I have not. I don't know, in your experience, you know, speaking so many women. I have not, actually. Lorraine, what's happening up there?

We have somebody with a really good question. Hi, my name is Jamie and I'm 59 years old and I'm from Santa Monica, California. My question is, when I went through menopause, I didn't have any symptoms, so I didn't find the need to start home room replacement. So now in my later 50s, is it too late to get any of the benefits of aging and the reduction of aging? Because I don't look 25. Would that help me now at this point in my life?

I feel like this is a doctor question. I feel like a doctor can't support you. You can easily play one. I'm definitely up for that. It is not too late, but I really encourage you to have the conversation with your provider. It's not too late, but what you do bring up, and I wouldn't mind opening up the conversation about this, which is the aging aspect. So, you know, we've even moved away from hormone replacement.

placement because we're really not replacing anything, right? Nothing is broken or failing, right? Or faulty, but it's, you know, it's hormone therapy. So yes, there could be some therapeutic benefits. Absolutely. So you might not have had so far, right? Really disruptive hot flashes, difficulty sleeping, but it could be that over time you do experience what we call the genitourinary syndrome of menopause. Used to be vaginal atrophy, but we're getting rid of that patriarchal language. Yeah, that doesn't sound good.

You don't shrink here. And so that's where, for example, vaginal estrogen might help. And sometimes I would suggest the conversation, sometimes getting ahead of that would be really beneficial because it's not just the plumpness of your vagina. There's also predisposition to urinary tract infections. The tissue of the vagina gets very, very fragile. And that's pretty safe for everyone, right? Because it doesn't go through the bloodstream. That's right.

I'll come over here. Did we talk about how the anxiety is a disaster during menopause? I think we should address that. It was so bad that Jenny knew I was having it just by looking at me. Like, did that happen to all of you?

Yes, hard yes. And I think for me, it was born out of disrupted sleep. For me, if I couldn't get my sleep under control, it was basically a non-starter. I had to, I have to have sleep. I can't work.

um, and, you know, like remember dialogue or, you know, there's all kinds of things that it can lead to anxiety, lack of confidence, memory blips, um, depression, mood swings, you know, if you don't sleep right, that, yeah, it's just going to lead to too many things. So certainly for me, that's again, again, where HRT helped me, um,

the progesterone calms me down at night. I also do other things, holistically speaking, just in lifestyle things. I exercise as much as I can. I eat healthily. I do a wind down at the end of the night. I take a bath if I can, you know, just to bring down the anxiety, not eat too late, not drink too late. I try not to drink too often, but I do love a cocktail now and again.

So those sort of things, adjusting your lifestyle that will help support your sleep, which is going to help quality of life.

Thank you. That was for me. No, thank you for asking that. Thank you for doing your show thing here today. And also, thank you, ladies, for showing up. Oh, and thank you, Ryan, for taking me. Okay. This is your acceptance speech, I love it. I just got vitamins or pills. I don't know what they're supposed to be called. I'm Summer, and I did a...

asked about hormone replacement thing because I had menopause, I don't know for how many years, I don't remember. But I was going to ask Ms. Watts about that and also Dr. Eve Glazer and I wanted to ask about

They didn't tell me about the patch. My husband told me, you should ask for the patch because he watches a lot of YouTube. So then I was like, okay, I will ask for the patch because I just got the pills yesterday. So I didn't know that you could do something with the menopause. And that's my question. Like, how do I know? And talk to the doctor because the doctor, long story short, the doctor said, tried to get me not to take anything at all. Female doctor, sorry. Anyways, but-

You know, that was like crazy for me to think like, okay, you want cancer, you want a heart attack, you want stroke. I'm like, well, those don't sound really nice to me, but I have to try. I have to try. I can moderate and blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm saying. Yeah. But is your question that your doctor won't prescribe it to you? She just got the pill. She just got a pill. Yeah.

But it sounds like she was dissuaded. Oh, got it. From trying hormone replacement. You know, Ali, you should address the hormone therapy, but I think that, you know, this is what we were talking about when we said that 2002 study, that there are still a lot of doctors that aren't educated about it. Some of the doctors get a week, a month of training in medical school. So when a doctor gave you those kind of answers, like you're going to have a stroke or heart attack, they're

they're using what they believe was evidence of that study, which has been, you know, been shown not to be the case. So I'm glad that you're someplace now with a doctor that's listening to you. And kudos to your husband because men need to be part of this conversation for sure. Such a good point. That's amazing that he did that. Oh, well, that's even better. Two more, two more. Lorraine, what do you have up there? Make it good. Make it good, ladies. Okay, so we have Madeline up here with a really good question about supporting women.

Hello. Hey, Jenny, you look better than the 10. You look like you lost 10 years since the 10 years ago I saw you last. Oh.

I'm wondering how we can best support our moms and the wiser women of the world as the younger generations as they're going through this transition that is clearly so powerful and important in our women. That's a good question. I don't think I was very supportive with my mom. I was like, I shut it down. I didn't want to hear about it. I didn't want to know about it. I'd be like, okay, bye. But I think my girls, I think they're so much more open to...

they know that it takes a village and that we're all in this together and they know that my future is their future. And so there's such a different level of compassion and empathy, I think, with this younger generation, at least for my experience.

And I'm so grateful for that because I don't want to suffer in silence. I don't want to feel alone in this journey. And I want to, you know, be an example for them even through menopause. Okay. I've been told this is a really good one.

Make it juicy. It's a contest now. Make it sexy. Make it sexy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hi. So my question is this. Listen, I've got Estradiol on my face, in my vagina. I've got a patch. I've got progesterone. I've got testosterone cream. I've got thyroid. How—I'm 57. How long—do we have to be on this forever? Forever?

That's a good question. I want to know too. I mean, it's a lot of stuff. I've got my OBGYN in New York is 70 and she's still on it. Still on it. Yeah.

And she's, yeah, strongly an advocate of it. If it's safe for you. Is it strongly still based on our blood work anymore? Or is it just, we just have to keep doing it because now your body's used to it? What was the last part of the question? Or is it because our body's now reliant a little bit on the... It's not like it's reliant, but it's not there. So you are infusing it with a certain amount of estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, everything you mentioned. Yeah.

I agree with Naomi. I think that, um, and again, there could be something geographic. I really want to acknowledge that, you know, I think being, you know, bi-coastal being in Los Angeles, I mean, um, I like to think that, um, you know, the institutions, at least that I'm familiar with are, are much more embracing of, of, and trying to stay more up to date. But, um,

I see OBGYNs constantly reassessing the North American Menopause Society, looking at guidelines every day, you know, basically titrating to symptoms, right? So in your case, I mean, that's why I would say don't just go on something and just stay on it for 15 years. Right. Have a constant assessment, constant conversation, acknowledge that you're changing, your body's changing, and then, you know,

make little adjustments as necessary. Yeah, I just wasn't sure if like when you got to post-menopause, could you ease up or not? Sometimes you do, but sometimes I've had patients who are on a certain dose, they go down and then all of a sudden they have hot flashes, you know, again. So it's a little bit of a give and take. Never ends. I was just going to say, in perimenopause, there's... Oh, there you go.

Thank you. I was going to say, in perimenopause, there's not that test because your hormones are fluctuating. But if you're on testosterone, blood tests would be something smart, right? Depending on which way you're getting it. Do we have time for one more? One more. One last question. They're so good. Make it good. Make it juicy. Can we do dirty stuff when we're 80? Like, can you do that?

Hi, my question is for the doctor. I'm Christelle and I am 65, so I'm way past that. But I've had a breast cancer scare already and they just said it's progesterone and estrogen fed. So replacements were out of the question and I'm not, I'm okay. I mean, there's sleep disruption, part of it's work related, but what other options? You said there is something that's...

Well, depending, I mean, depending on your symptoms. So this is to me where having the conversation and I really want to put a pitch in for finding that trusted provider and they come in lots of different forms. So whether they're your osteopath, your nurse, your doctor, your therapist, you know,

But I do think that having that conversation, because there are other options. I mean, there's, you know, amazing topicals, right? And you have amazing, you know, products on that you've developed. I think there's, and I would talk to perhaps other patients, friends who are in the same boat. But for example, if you're not having terrible hot flashes, you might not need estrogen.

Right. So I think it's really about what's bothering you. And then it's like we do that risk benefit calculus with you and then and then decide what's what's best. Do you even need anything or not? You know, and what's what's best for you? And I think that's a big point of this is that it's, again, universal and we're lucky to go through it. We're lucky to be here to talk about it. But it's also incredibly singular. You know what you go through as well. And so you have to find what works for you.

I think it's just so important to never make a decision in crisis mode. So much like with the wildfires, when you see the fire raging towards your home, have a plan in place. Same thing with menopause. Have a plan in place because it's coming. There's no denying it.

And we want to be ready for it. So I think that it's from listening to brave women like you and such great education from Dr. Eve that we can all prepare ourselves a little bit better and know how to take care of ourselves and to choose ourselves in the future or present. And I just want to thank you, all three of you, for being here. You're inspirational. What you've done for the conversation is...

I don't have words for how grateful I am for you to bring this to all of us and to my children, my daughters. So thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Let's give it up. Let's give it up. Thank you, Tamsen, Naomi, Dr. Glazer.

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