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Hi everyone, welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about the choices we make and where they lead us. My guest today is known for a role on one of my favorite TV shows that is in its final season and I cannot wait to talk to her about feminism, about being a mom and how she finds ways to choose herself.

even when she's filming The Handmaid's Tale. You can catch new episodes of The Handmaid's Tale, by the way, Tuesday nights on Hulu. Please welcome Ever Carradine to the podcast. First of all, we know each other. We used to do yoga together. Okay, thank you. Where? On Ventura Boulevard? Yes. Yoga City. I did a movie with Peter. Right. What movie?

You know, it never came out. It was called Rope Walk and it got sort of stuck in litigation, but we filmed it on Nantucket. And then home, now my husband, but my then boyfriend and I would go down to yoga. And one day we walked in and there were you and Peter who also did yoga.

couples yoga with Jenny Brill. Jenny Brill, that's right. Where is Jenny Brill now? Jenny Brill is still teaching yoga. Oh my God, I miss her energy. I don't, you purple hair. I run into her every now and then. If I'm down in Studio City, I might catch her getting like a matcha or something. It's exactly the same. Oh, I'm so glad you remember because I was racking my mind last night trying to remember. Yeah, no, I'm like an elephant with stuff like that. It just...

Goes somewhere and doesn't come out. Good. Wait, that was your fiance then or just your boyfriend when you went to yoga? I think he was just my boyfriend then. Did your boyfriend take his shirt off at yoga? No, Peter did though. I'm really glad. Do you remember that too? Oh my God. He would take...

His shirt off. And he was so sweaty every time. And remember, Jenny was into like partner stuff. And I was like, I don't, don't, I don't want to do Peter. Let's do Kobe. Don't let me touch him. That's how I felt too. No offense, Peter. Peter looks great. All good. I mean, he was really good at yoga. He might've been the only shirt free yoga. Absolutely. Except for, did you ever see Thomas? Yes. Tom Hanks.

Tom, Tom, Tom. What's his name? He was on. Yes. Melrose Place. Melrose Place. He played the doctor. Dr. Tom. He was also went to yoga there and was a yoga instructor and also always shirtless. Yeah. It was a look. It was a vibe. Yeah.

I remember one time in a yoga class, Peter just sweat profusely and he didn't bring a towel, but he thought he did. And he reached back and took the neighbor lady's towel on the yoga mat next to him. And he like wiped off all his sweat on it. And then she was like, excuse me, that's my towel. And he goes, oh, here you go. And he handed it back.

Oh, bless. Bless his heart.

for me is so fascinating because it's so different than the life I grew up in. I think your perspective is much more similar to probably my daughter's being that they were born and bred in LA and they spent so much time on sets. And so did you, and it's just normal for them. And I'm sure it was just normal for you. Yeah.

Completely. Where are you from? I'm from Illinois, from the Midwest. And you came out here and look at you. Look what you did. Look at me go. It's amazing. I mean, yeah, I think that kids don't listen. Also, like I grew up before social media and before Instagram. You know what I mean? Like you had to sort of know who my family was. You had to go to the movies or watch television. It wasn't sort of like is in your face as it is now. But no, it's don't. It's.

I think their parents are their parents. Like, you know, aside from a few perks of my dad's job, it was a very normal childhood for me. I didn't feel... It's probably a lot like your kids. It was not. It was not a big deal. And also my dad's father was an actor. So I'm now third generation. So he, you know, worked the kinks out and I... Yeah, that's nice. Yeah.

Yeah, that's so nice that you had that sort of access to the industry and that sort of like like preconditioning almost.

Totally. And like, I think the thing that like child actors might have is that when they grow up on set, like being on set feels very at home to them. It feels very normal. They know to go to craft service for a snack. They know if they got a stain on their sweatshirt that someone in the costume department will give them a new one. Like those are things that I learned, but not by being a child actor, just by sort of like being on set. Yeah. My kids loved it. And I think it's so cool because they did get,

exposed to a lot of different kinds of people, people who work hard for a living. And it made them really appreciate, I think, what I do and what their dad does.

And don't you feel like you can have a conversation with anyone? Like to me, the crew is so diverse and so they're from everywhere. And some of them are specific artists and some of them are carpenters and some of them are gear heads or whatever. And like my nature is to be inquisitive and like I can have a conversation with anybody. And I know that that comes from a life, a life on set and genuine curiosity. Yeah, definitely. I love that about them too, that they're just not afraid to talk to other adults.

Which is so cool. But I do think it's really cool also that even though you had this availability to the industry right there for you, you chose to go to college and figure your shit out on your own. I did. Do you think back on that time when you went away to college and

Do you remember it fondly or like, were you scared? Cause you moved away, right? I moved. Yeah. So I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. I was raised by my dad. So it's just the two of us growing up. I had a wonderful childhood. I rode horses. I went to a lovely private school. I had a really good friends. I didn't have, you know, those nightmare high school years. Like I had a pretty, it all went pretty, pretty, pretty according to plan. And then when I went to, when I was applying to college, my dad was like, you want to go to college? And I was like, yes.

So I went to college in Portland, Oregon. And, you know, Portland in the late 90s was like the height of grunge. It was a really cool place to be. Like Nirvana was like at the top of their game, like singles had come out. You know, it was just a very cool. It was a really cool city. And my dad had spent some time there and he was like, go to Portland. He's like, it's a great place to sort of like practice being an adult. Yeah.

And so that was a little how I went into college. And then I was a sociology anthropology major. And then I did a play. And after I did a play, I was like, oh, that was really fun. If I could do that for like if someone paid me to do that as a job, like how lucky would I be? And, you know, I was right. So I swapped majors to theater and the rest is history. That sounds like a cheesy way to say it, but you know what I mean? Well, that's true. Yeah.

It's true. Have you been back to Portland lately? It's definitely changed. Yeah, I've been back a few times. I've been back sort of at its peak, which is, you know, it really cleaned up in the Pearl District and Palace Bookstore. Everything got so much bigger and better. And now it's going through a little bit of a transition. It'll come back, though. It's so beautiful.

It's so beautiful. It's such a good food scene. It's such a good beer scene. It's such good coffee. Like there's so much about that Portland has to offer. So I just need her to get back on her feet again. Yeah. Do you think you felt any kind of pressure from just because of your family lineage? Like to succeed? Yeah. To like live up to their level of success or something like that. Do you ever feel that pressure?

You know, I don't think I do. And I always say, you know, people talk about like, what do they say, NAPO babies or this sort of stuff. And I always felt at the time, and I still feel upon reflecting at the beginning of my career, that like I was treated with a level of respect in auditions or in a room that I hadn't quite earned yet.

But what what how lucky was I to have that? Do you know what I mean? To have the feeling of like, oh, you respect me and you're listening to me at such a tender age because that since that was the norm, that was what I then required.

Yes. Yeah. I like that, though. Yeah. You should. Yeah. A hundred percent. But, you know, a 22 year old might not totally feel that yet. Might not be used to that. Right. And it's there is certainly something to the fact of earning it and, you know, completely looking for it. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Absolutely. But I don't feel like, you know, I don't feel like I was expected to. I mean, I guess the one thing I feel like I need to do is a Western. Like my family is so like cowboys, like people keep asking what my next project is. And I'm like, God willing, it's a Western. Like I show up at work and get on a horse. Wouldn't that be the dream? Okay. That's definitely a dream. It's the dream. Yeah.

I did a movie where I was riding a horse. I was like saving my parents' ranch or something. And I just found out the day before that I had a baby inside my belly. And I was like, oh my gosh, should I be riding this horse? And I can't tell anyone. But I...

But that's the closest I ever got to a Western. And I really want to do one, too. Yeah. Wouldn't it be fun? Definitely. You said before Nepo Baby. Let's talk about that term because I'm sure you've heard it. I'm sure people have thrown it around for you. I've heard it regarding my kids. Like, how do you feel about it? Like, what are your feelings about Nepo Baby? It's stupid. I just like it's so dumb. It's such a like it's it's.

The negative connotations to it are so stupid. Like for me, I always felt like what...

How great my dad and family felt that like I watched their careers and then I chose to do the same thing. I think it's a lot like my daughter's orthodontist who inherited his practice from his father, who is an orthodontist. Like, I think it's cool. I think it's cool to do the same thing that your parents. It is like, come on. I wish I mean, I wish I could do that. That sounds like fun.

Right. Unless you're remember, and I'm just fully having a moment where I was watching White Lotus. Did you watch it? Yeah. Unless you're Schwarzenegger's his dad, you don't want to go into the same business as him.

He was following in his father's footsteps. Right. Was he like a hedge fund guy? I don't even. Something big money. I don't know. You know what? Saxon's going to be fine. He'll land on his feet. He was so good in that. Anyway. Yeah. I,

I don't have a problem with anybody using the term nepo baby. I've certainly never been had it used for me, which I wanted to have it used for me, but I never got that chance. But for my girls, I'm like, you know what? It's really, really hard to break in to any business, any field, any career, you

And if you have somebody that has a foot in the door, take it. Yeah. Use it. And for me, I got my first agent because his daughter was in my class in college and he came and saw a play that we were both in and said, when you come back to Los Angeles, give me a call. And I went in and I auditioned for him and they signed me. And, you know, I don't know. You never, you don't know. That's the thing. But you know, you have talent. The world knows you have talent. That's for sure. And.

And so who really cares, but it's stupid. It's so stupid. So I guess I'll be a proud Nepo baby, but like, I don't, I don't know how much it helps me. When your kids are, how old are they? My son is nine and my daughter is 14. You're ready for a teenager. Yeah.

It's it's on. Right. It's on. It's like donkey. Awesome, though. I will say like 13 was sort of the bumpier ride because you're she's really went from being like a kid to then, you know, a teenage girl and on her way to being an adult. But no, 14, we're sort of we're getting our bearings. She's awesome. She's a great student. Great kid. Great big sister. I love that. Yeah. And then my little dude just wants to play baseball.

He's into baseball. All we do is on travel team and a rec team. All we do is go to baseball. You're a baseball mom. I'm such a baseball mom. I was a soccer mom. I don't know. Soccer mom has a bad rap. I don't know. Baseball mom. Soccer is too stressful for me. It's so much yelling, right? Oh, gosh. Yeah.

Hopefully it's not the mom doing it. That gets you in trouble. I wouldn't know, but no, I don't have any negative connotations to soccer moms. You got to bring your own chair, the chairs and the blankets and the snacks. I can't with the snacks. I know. And it's an all day thing. Like you're out there all day or you're in like Temecula or

or something. And the dust blowing. It's fun. I'm just needless to say, I'm happy those years are over for my daughters. But yeah, like you said before, kids don't, they're so humbling. They don't care if their mom is famous or a truck driver. They just want their food. They just want a good snack. Do you ever find yourself embarrassing, especially your daughter at this age?

Like all the time, all the time, right? When you breathe, because I'm loud. I don't really care what people think. I don't care. Like, you know, I just, this is who I am. And it is at, at 14, it's really like the opposite of what you want. We were in Toronto and we went to see Taylor Swift. We went to the heirs tour.

And a bunch of my cast was there and we got to go. We were like in the area with Mama Swift and it was like a dream come true. And I danced and sang my ass off. And she was like, I love that. Yeah, I've had that phase with my daughters. But the last time when we went to see Taylor Swift,

Fiona and I flew to Miami, I think, with her friend to see it. And we all just danced and had the best time. They didn't care. It was the best. Wasn't it the best night ever? Best night ever. I know. It was as if, because I'm sure you were a Madonna fan when you were growing up. Yeah, but I never saw her in concert. Me either. No, no.

And I didn't see her when she did this tour. Neither did I. I missed it. It came and then it went away and then it came back and I missed it. I know. The best was like my... We were in Toronto and my family came to visit because we were shooting over Thanksgiving. And you know how it is. You never know what your schedule is going to be. So I was like, you guys have the week off school. Come to Toronto. We'll bag U.S. Thanksgiving and we'll go to Taylor Swift. We get the tickets to Taylor Swift and my husband...

It's like, I don't know, three and a half. I like Taylor, but three and a half hours. Like I can do it. Cut to we're at the heiress tour. And within 10 minutes, Kobe has like his hands in a heart above his head. He's making, he's taking selfies with Taylor behind him dancing. Like also so all in the amount of joy that she is able to generate with a collective group of people is like just amazing.

It's just a good time. It's such a good time. Do you think your kids or one of them at least will go into the biz? I don't think so. Or yours or any of yours?

Maybe. Not really. They're all creatives for sure. Yeah. My 18-year-old is thinking about it. Yeah. So, yeah. But she's 18 now, so I've held her off this long. Yeah, no, that's great. No, my daughter, I don't believe this is what – no, I don't think so. And then my son is cheeky and hammy, but he really –

you know, and I support this. If he believes it, he thinks he goes from high school to the minors, to the major league. And I'm like, you know what, buddy, do it. Work hard. Right. Love to have a professional baseball player as a son. So that would be so fun. So fun. Yeah.

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Chase Sapphire Reserve card members can redeem their Chase Ultimate Rewards points for VIP packages to meet me before the show or visit jsheddy.me forward slash tour to get your tickets. What kind of conversations are you having with your kids around like the state of the world right now? I mean, it's impossible to shield them from the news these days. Like what do you do in your house to keep them safe?

I mean, it's so hard, right? Because you want them to be protected, but you also want to like, you want them to understand what's happening. So, I mean, they know I am a big voter. I'm a part of an organization called Vote Mama. And what we do is we raise funds to get mothers elected from everything from school board to Senate because

Because a lot of times when mothers are finally able to run for office, their kids are out of the house. So what mama does is try to help support these women to get them in office. While the things that you're juggling, like the things that you're thinking about with a four-year-old, you're able to then bring into policy. So they know voting's important. We always vote together.

Um, when Roe was overturned, we had a long talk about, you know, my body, my choice, and nobody should be able to tell me what to do about it. And, you know, I think we, we talk about everything. My son, I guess I, I shield him a little bit more, but, um,

I don't know. Talk and listen. You know, kids ask the darndest things, right? I mean, yeah. And they know so much now. So much. And they're exposed to so much. Like there's something inside of me that's so sad about it.

Because you and I grew up in such a different time. I know. My daughter goes to a girl's school. And so what I do love about that is she's definitely getting a very strong foundation of female friendships, speaking up in class and doing all the things that she should be able to do at 14 that sometimes get a little, you know, hampered by cute 14 year old boys in the same classroom.

Yeah, you're telling me. I know. I feel like... I just feel like it's... My daughter goes to a co-ed school and there's just so much drama and not enough learning. So it is nice. Like that's the one piece of the drama that... And she wanted to go to this school. So that is the one piece of drama that she was able to kind of eliminate from her high school experience. Great. Yeah, I mean...

Even just speaking about it feels like oddly, we're kind of in this anti-feminist sort of weird time in history right now, like trad wives and the road weighed and.

It's bananas. It's all the fruits combined with a banana. And like, I'm on the handmaid's tale. Do you know what I mean? Like, this is not what I always say about the shows, like being on set. I look around and nobody's happy in a dictatorship. Like nobody in Gilead is happy. Like nobody. I promise you all, this is not the future that we want forced births. It's not the, it's not what we want guys. It's not good. It's not going to end well.

Yeah. You're like a woman who supports women. And it sounds like your daughter's off to a really great start of understanding the importance of that. I don't think I understood that as a young girl, woman. Yeah. I mean, well, in the industry. Yeah. And I think it's great for her little brother to see, you know, he idolizes her, even though he thinks that he doesn't. He does. I devoured the book, Handmaid's Tale. When did you read it?

Before the show came out, which I was so happy about because then I had a better understanding of what was happening on the show. And I've watched it since season one. And I'm really sad this is the final season. I know. Can you believe it? Well, the thing that people don't often remember is like when we started the show, Obama was still president.

Remember that? Remember those days? I remember those days. Yeah. Obama was still president. So after Trump was elected, I was in Toronto in my pink hat marching with the good people of Canada. The good, the great people. And then I had another Trump victory while I was in Toronto. So yeah, it's been quite a ride. Interesting. It's been quite a ride. Such a journey. Six years.

I feel like I had to wait forever for the season to come out. Because it was a SAG after strike and then some babies were born. And so we just needed a second and you know, it's always cold in Gilead also. So you had to wait for it to be fall before we could all go back to work. What's been your favorite thing about developing your character? You play Naomi. I play Naomi. Now Naomi Lawrence. Yes. Okay. How did that happen? Wait, wait,

How did I become Naomi? Yes. I was like, I auditioned. No. I auditioned a long, long time ago. No, Naomi's husband. What's his name? Warren played by Stephen Kunkin was murdered or executed in five by Max Minghella and Bradley Whitford.

then he's such a bad guy i know and then at the end of season five aunt lydia sort of suggests that naomi should marry lawrence because we can keep each other safe because lawrence's wife eleanor had also died but she died she wasn't executed so that's how that happened it's an arranged marriage arranged marriage does naomi like him

I mean, I think Naomi likes power. I don't know if you're caught up, but... I'm not caught up. Oh, okay. Don't tell me. She tries. She's trying her best, you know? Naomi is a... She's the... She's...

She's not quite as easygoing as I am. No, true, true. She's kind of in people's business. Like she likes the busy body. Like what I always say is like, she's very present. Do you know what I mean? Like she's like a little nap. Like she's just kind of taking it all in and very reactive to the moment at hand. But like she doesn't

really hold a grudge. She's a little like a toddler in that way. Like remember toddlers would like have a fit and you'd get yelled at, you'd yell at them. And then two seconds later, they were like, can I have a string cheese? Like there's no sort of like registering that the tantrum just happened. So I always say she's a little toddler-y. She's a little like Nellie Olsen from

Oh my God. Perfect comparison. Right? With the ring. It's so... Ringless. I know. That's probably what she wore as a girl. Oh yeah. Little curls. Little curls. What's been your favorite part of filming a show like this? I mean, what an honor to be able to bring this story to life. I can't even like, I can't even believe I get to be on the show. Like I can't, I just, you know, we, this is like, we're, we're like,

We're in a circus like we go from one gig to the next and summer for money and summer for art. And, you know, you sort of you piecemeal this thing together. And when I first read this show, I read for a different role, which I didn't get. And I was heartbroken because it was like the best pilot I'd ever read. And then not soon after I was I read for Naomi and I got the job and I really felt like people joke about this. But I was like, I'll do anything like whatever you want me to do on the show. Like, I just I just want to be there.

And I got to work and I had never seen, you know, we shoot on the actual location a lot. So it's very immersive. Like the house was this giant, like $20 million mansion in the middle of a really posh area of Toronto. And I just like everywhere I looked was like a handmaid or a guy with a gun or something. Like it also makes your job a lot easier when it's that immersive. And I don't know, I really believe in like,

speaking up for people's rights and speaking up for injustices and just saying the thing when you can say the thing and being a part of this show has has definitely like turned the volume up on my voice and that is not that's it's appreciated I I love that aspect about it because also so much of being an actor like self-serving you know it's fun job like look what I get to do for a living and so that part of it really feels like it's like a cherry on top of an already delicious sundae

When you say you get to use your voice now, what does that mean for you? It means, you know, I can use an image from The Handmaid's Tale and then I can use an image of children being separated from their parents at the border. And I think that people, well, a lot of people react and tell me I'm dramatic and a lib blank and all these awful things. And other people...

really see it and they run with that and they feel inspired to also say something. And yeah, I don't know where the world is in a really tricky spot. And I think that the show is,

is a lot of things it's beautiful it's creative everybody's really good on it the director's incredible the writing is top-notch but it's also like a warning shot to open your eyes and pay attention to the things that are happening around you you know there's a great a great quote which is like even in a slowly heating bathtub you will eventually boil to death and that's like

The heat's up. I botched that quote a little bit, but you get it. No, I got it. Yeah. That's good. Margaret Atwood, baby. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. Wow. Wow.

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What happens to you? A few things. Well, I don't really care. Like personally, I don't, I don't give a shit. So shoot. Good. Right. But I have to like resist the temptation to like say snarky things back if it's on the internet. And sometimes I do it and sometimes I don't, I don't generally block people because I'm like, you know, whatever, if you guys want to Duke it out here, Duke it out.

Sometimes I'll maybe take a screenshot of a really horrible comment and put it in my Instagram stories and be like, this is what people are saying, everybody. I guess that would be shaming.

Maybe I shame the haters, but you know, first and foremost, like I don't, I'm rubber, you're glue. Do you know what I mean? I know well enough to not, to not wait. What's the whole expression? I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Oh, that's so good. That is right. Yeah.

Oh my God. I'm glad you clarified that. Yes, I know. Thank you, Margaret. She's done a lot of good things, but not that much. Or what is it like point a finger at me, two point back at me? Like the whole thing. Like look in the mirror, dude. I don't know. It's so, so true. But you know, when I see things like that. Yeah. How do you react? Like people are...

so quick to be cruel. And the people that are cruel, have you ever noticed they're always like at mom of three with puppies or like at namaste mama, or these are made up names, everybody. There are always people that are like light love in the Lord that come at you and just call you like

The most vile, insane names. That's been my experience anyway. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure like just your cast in general gets so much because of the content. People get a lot of that. And I also get a like, you're, you know, you're an actress. Stay out of politics. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm an American and I'm a woman. Like I'm just as much as right to say something is

As every single other person on this planet. But there is. Interesting how they put you into that category though. Right? Yeah. Go stay in your lane. Like stay in my lane. There's no lanes anymore. What lane? What's the lane? I know. But at the same time, I feel like we're regressing to having lanes again. I know. We really are. And that's why it's so important. I love that you have three daughters who I'm sure use their voices whenever they can. Like it's just like.

That's a good sound effect for what's happening. Thank you very much. You should really do some voiceover work, maybe. I don't know. Okay, so when you're doing a show like Handmaid's Tale, and you're talking about such heavy stuff every day, and the environment is oppressive in the context of what you're doing, the scenes, the acting, whatever.

How does that feel to you at the end of a work day? It's yeah. I mean, here's the thing. The set is not, doesn't feel oppressive. Like the scenes do and the scenes are real. And I think that, you know, everyone would agree that everybody on this show takes the work seriously, but not themselves. Do you know what I mean? There's love in me. There's joy. There's laughter. I work with Bradley Whitford who like always keeps me laughing, which is such a gift because it,

counterintuitive, but like to play Naomi and to play that uptight, I kind of do need to be relaxed. You know what I mean? Like if, if ever is uptight, then Naomi's going to be, I don't know what she's going to be, but you know, there've been a lot of days with like a nice stiff drink at the hotel bar. Yeah.

A walk in the cold in Toronto goes a long way. Yeah, good ways to decompress. You walk along. Oh, you're in Toronto. And the thing about the show also is like there have been so many markers on this show. Like I was there when...

Trump was elected. I was there when Ukraine was invaded. I was there when Roe was overturned. I always say I landed at Toronto Pearson. And by the time I got to my hotel room, my son had more rights than my daughter. Biden was elected. I was here. I was there for much of COVID. And then I was there for another Trump election. So there have been a lot of markers. And after the election this year, I was alone.

And I actually went to work. I didn't have to work that day. And I was texting Yvonne and whoever else was on set. And it was understandably like a really hard, dark day. And I just went to work to be around my people. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, that's good that you've all had those experiences together, though, and such a bond, I'm sure. It's great. It's a really sorry that made me like choked up. It's a really it's a genuinely lovely group of people, truly. And they're all as kind as they are talented. Yeah.

I find myself in positions where people are always saying, do you have anything for this auction? Do you have any memorabilia? Did you steal anything from the set? Do you have anything of Kelly Taylor's that we could have or photograph or whatever? Have you taken anything from the set? Oh, my God. So here's the deal. I'm such a good girl. I didn't take it. I realized I should have at the time. And then the person who was to send it to me, I was like –

Can you just ask forgiveness, not permission? You just put it in the mail. So it's coming. And I have one of Naomi's, you know, her capes, like what we'd wear outside when it was and like my favorite outfit. And then some Naomi, I always liked her in really, really, really tall heels.

because I just like her to feel kind of like bony and towering over people. Like it just adds to a picture to me. So I have a pair of her very, very high shoes coming as well. Did I take anything else? I don't think I did. Maybe I don't think I have anything else. I should have. Mine says 2020, right? It really is. But Maddie, who plays my handmaid, she took her

She wrapped and just stuffed her red dress right in her backpack and her bonnet and her eye patch and got on a plane. Good for her. I was like, Maddie, I should have done that. But no, mine's coming. Good. I'm so glad. So if I'm Naomi Putnam for Halloween, that's why I have my costume ready. Keep it forever. Keep it forever. They're going to do a sequel, right? Well, they're doing. I'm not. You should read that. The Testaments, which is Margaret Atwood's follow up to The Handmaid's Tale. Yeah.

Oh, I got to read it. Sort of follows Aunt Lydia. So I don't want to spoil anything. I don't know, but I don't like Aunt Lydia. I don't like her. Oh, but you need to talk to Ann Dowd. Ann Dowd is like the best person in the whole wide world. I'm sure. Just the absolute greatest. She's so good. And it's so funny because she's so like, Lydia's so intense. And then they all cut. She's like, how's Kobe, darling? Like, what's happening? Like, she's just...

She's so yummy. I love her. I love her. I'm just, I'm so happy for you and your career's longevity and, you know, rooting for you for what's next. I mean, what do you have? Don't you look back and you're like, how am I, I don't know how, I'm 50. And I'm like, when did that happen? That's right. You're in the 50 club. I'm in the 50 club. I threw myself a nice big birthday party, but yeah. Good for you. 50. Good for you. Doesn't feel like 50. I don't get it.

No. How did this happen? I don't know. Well, I just, I follow you. I'll follow you. I'll continue watching and supporting you always. It's quite a ride. I'm excited for you to see how this season shakes out because the right thing you did stick the landing, I think. Good. Perfect. Okay. Before I let you go. Oh, yeah. Evercaridine, what was your last I choose me moment? I've been thinking about this a lot. Good. And I have two.

Lay them on me. My I choose me is my garden. I don't have a gardener. I do our gardening. I do our planting. I do our trimming. And so like if I find myself sort of in the L.A. crazies or spinning, I will just put my gardening gloves on and my clogs and prune and weed. And we have sort of like a little English garden and I'm

proud of it and I love how it makes me feel the other day I did it barefoot I was like maybe that'll be like grounding maybe that's like yeah or something like that

And then the other thing I did, I sort of was, it's so funny when someone's like, what's your choose me? And you're like, I don't know. I have kids. I choose them. A lot of people say, but at the end of 2023, I sort of, you know, everyone on social media posts, like these are the books I read this year and Obama's list. And I'm like, Obama read 55 books. Like, what am I doing with my time? So at the beginning of 24, I started a book group.

And the goal was a book a month. And the book group is kicking ass. And it's this incredible group of like, it's like 10 to 15 of us. We meet every month. Then we read a book or two a month. And it's totally awesome. And it is a non-negotiable. I have book group on the first Wednesday of every month. Period. End of story. That's my- I love that. Who's in your book group? Who's in my book group? Well, there's a lot of people.

People in my book, you might know is Meredith Salinger is in my book group. Meredith Salinger. And then a lot of moms who I've met over the years, either through preschool or school, and then some other women in the book group brought in a friend and we all just sort of mesh. Great. It's been really, it's, I highly recommend the book. What book are you reading right now then? Currently we are reading two books because we're like that. I know. Oh boy.

Overachievers. I know. Well, we just read East of Eden. So we're sort of revisiting some classics, which if you haven't read, I really, I, it's been a million. It's really good. We read it during the fires and it was, it's really a love letter to California. We're reading House of Mirth.

And then we're reading a collection of essays by a friend called Mothers and Other Fictional Characters, which is also wonderful. And I know the author, Nicole. And so she is going to zoom in at our next book group. And we're all going to get to kind of chat with her about her memoir. It's exciting. Right.

It's fun. I love it that you did. I heard that if you read a book for even 20 minutes a day, it has such significant help of your mental health. Absolutely. And like, you know, a lot of us, I feel like, and I say this with no judgment, like end of the day, I'd be sitting on the chair looking at my phone and I was like,

scrolling what I want my kids to see me doing. And so I really make an effort to just at the end of the day for 15 minutes or a chapter and just sit out there. And then if they need something, they come out when they find me, I have a book in my hand and my phone.

I love that. You just inspired me. Thank you. I'm going to pick up a book instead of my phone today when I have like 10 minutes. Do it. Do you need a book recommend? No, I'm behind. You're like, I have plenty. I know that's how my life stand is. I don't even buy books. I'll let you know though. It's like, shoot, I'm at capacity. No more books. No more room in the book end. Yeah. But thank you so much for being on. And I know everybody's going to just love our chat. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

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And because you'll meet your therapist online, you don't have to take time off work or arrange childcare. You'll meet on your schedule. Plus, Talkspace is in network with most major insurers and most insured members have a $0 copay. Make your mental health a priority and start today. If you're not covered by insurance, get $80 off your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com and enter promo code SPACE80.

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