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Welcome everybody to I Do Part Two. We're just a few of your hosts here on the podcast. It's Amy Robach and TJ Holmes. And today we have a very special guest. You have known her for years and we actually had to double check the date because we can't believe it.
She made her debut, her television debut on The Girls Next Door all the way back in 2005. So yeah, that was 20 years ago. And since then, she's had her own reality shows. She's a realtor. Of course, she is a mom. And like everyone that we've had on this show and present parties included-
She's gone through a very public divorce and we're going to talk about it all today. And well, we just want Kendra Wilkinson to know that she is in good company and in a very safe, soft place here with us on this podcast, because yes, we've all been through something similar. Kendra, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. It's so good to be here with you guys. And if there's two people I trust, it's you guys. You
You guys are as real as it can get. And I'm all about real. I've always been real. That's why I've lasted 20 years in reality TV, because people see it in the eyes. They know that I'm real. So, you know, real, real meets real. Here we go. You know, I always say that certain folks find each other. You can tell immediately when you find your tribe. And yes, it takes sometimes people going through something and sometimes a public flogging.
Unfortunately, but it is really cool to have you all these things you've gone through. And we've we seem like we've watched you grow up, become an adult, get married, get all these things. Is there some part? All these things are so personal. Is there some of it that you think maybe shouldn't be done in the public eye? Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's two, there's a many different like ways to look at this. There's, there's playboy, there's show business, there's media attention. There's like so many different ways of looking at what I've done, you know? And, um, a lot of people focus a lot on like, Oh, you did playboy, playboy, playboy, but no one really focuses on like what it took to actually shoot a reality TV show and what it does, what it, what,
how much it takes to shoot a reality TV show. And it took every ounce of my soul. Like, that's why they call it sell the soul of the devil. Like, I sold my soul to the goddamn devil. And, yeah, there's a price to pay with that. There's a major price to pay with that. I have a lot of regrets when it comes to... I don't have regrets with Playboy and all that, but I have regrets on, like, you know, where things went with show business. So, yeah, I mean, you know, there's...
We make choices and we reap what we sow. It is what it is. But, you know, like, and I take full responsibility for my choices and my actions and everything like that. But, you know, like, there was a lot of pressure on me. There was a lot of pressure. Like, shows called Kendra...
Kendra sells Hollywood, Kendra, Kendra on top, Kendra, Kendra, Kendra. Like, you know, like there's a major pressure on my shoulders to entertain and to give the audience what they want and to get, you know, to draw blood and to, you know, make people laugh, make people cry, make people, you know, relate, you know, and, and,
I sold a lot of my soul that way. And I, you know, I, you can't get it back. So like,
I always thought like, oh, sharing the realist and the rawest part of me would be the best way to go with storytelling. And I did that. But it came with consequences. It came with a lot of media attention and a lot of people not respect, like a lot of hate, a lot of criticizing. So yeah.
And I'm only one person. I can't take on the world like that. So it definitely hit me hard. It hit me hard at one point and I crumbled and I fell to my knees begging for mercy. And that's kind of how things played out over the course of 20 years. And yeah, over the course of 20 years, Kendra, yeah, as we said, you started on that show in 2005.
If my calculations are correct, because you are still 39 years old, you were a teenager.
when you started in this, not just the television business, but this was a highly sexualized, some would say over-sexualized part of television, not just the magazine, but now you're one of Hugh Hefner's girlfriends, one of three, I think initially at the time, but you, again, you were 19. So I hear you saying, I take responsibility for my actions. I take responsibility for my decisions. And I think that's a really good point.
But you were just a baby. I'm sorry, but you were a baby. How did you get in that position to begin with? You know, like I was a horrible teenager. Like I was horrible. Like I was a runaway. I sold cocaine at the age of 15. Like I was more like a runaway from home. I never really, you know, had a stable life.
And so I went looking for the wrong things. I went looking for dark things. I went looking for fun. And now I'm not saying that everything I did was dark and wrong. I'm saying that, like, you know, it was easy to take that one-way ticket to L.A. and to the Playboy Mansion, how vulnerable I was. And, you know, I...
I also regret not fighting at a young age to go to college. I felt like I always had to fight for myself and my life in certain ways. I took the easy route. I took an easy road out. But who has the money to go to college? I never had the money to go to college. It's easy for people like me to wander and to
you know, wander into the gates of a playboy mansion. So that's what I did. I wandered in there at 18 years old. And, um, you know, now I'm saying that I, I, I can honestly look back and say that I was safer at the playboy mansion than I was at 15 years old dealing drugs. Wow. So, um,
In that case, like I was safe. I was in a safe environment. I was healthy, eating salads every day, working out every day, no drugs every day. Like so I was in a safe environment at the Playboy Mansion. But was I sexualized? Absolutely. Did that cause me problems later in life? Absolutely. So, you know, like, you know, choices, there are consequences for every choice you make.
How did that have an impact, that environment on a, again, you're a teenager, you hadn't been necessarily exposed to healthy relationships at that point in your life, but it puts you on a certain path. Of course, we'll get into your marriage and divorce in a second, but what did that do to you and shape you?
what you thought a relationship was, should be, and the type of person even you were interested in. Yeah, look, I struggle still to this day with my relationships and my views on sex. And I kind of, you know, I had to go through a lot of therapy. And, you know, they looked at me and they're like, this is the first time I'm admitting this, but they're like, you might have like a little bit of a sex problem. Like you have a little bit of a...
problem when it comes to thinking of sex. What kind of a sex problem, Kendra? What did they what were you referring to specifically?
You know, it's just unhealthy thoughts, like just like not really settling for like, you know, a marriage and stuff like that, which is not I wouldn't say unhealthy. I'm saying that, you know, everyone has their choices and some people want to be single. Some people want to be married. Some people. And I'm just, you know, and I and I'm more of a fun idea type of person, you know, so, yeah.
But, you know, my marriage, you know, my marriage was my happiest days of my entire life. My marriage were, I mean, I'm telling you, those days were the happiest days of my life. And so when those days came to an end, I crumbled so hard and it almost killed me. It almost killed me. Wow.
I can say that I managed to, you know, I left the Playboy Mansion at age 23, got pregnant, got married at the age of 23, then started my life as a wife and a mother. And it was the golden years of my life. And, you know, I went from the Playboy Mansion all like all of a sudden to like this, this, this, this like marriage life and in a blink of an eye. And, yeah.
And it was the right timing. You know, I found myself just, you know, so bored at the Playboy Mansion. I was just like, I'm ready to leave this place. I'm ready to start a family. I'm ready for the I'm ready for like Calabasas lifestyle. You know, my kids go to a great school. You know, I'm a soccer mom. I'm a softball mom. Like I'm a basketball mom. Like, you know, like I was like ready for that. And so.
It all came, I manifested it and it came to me and I met the perfect man, the man of my dreams. And he's still, even though we're divorced, he's the father of my kids and he's the most amazing father to my kids. And I know I chose right with him, you know, even to this day.
Help. You got to help us and help other people who will hear that. The man of my dreams, I was the happiest I'd ever been. He is a great father to these kids. Why is that relationship not still there?
solid or even worth fighting for listening to you now it sounds like it's still something there yeah yeah they're look you know like i'm one person that can kind of you know we're human we're human we all have mistakes we've all made mistakes and um you know we just made i think that
Hank and I being young, like we just made too many of them. And I think that it was it wasn't repairable at a certain point. So like we just decided to like cheers like over over a drink and be like, hey, let's call it a day. Let's raise these kids. Right. You know, let's not you know, let's not chase like this this.
this fantasy, this fantasy, you know, and who knows, maybe later, you know, I, I want, I want that again. But let me tell you something. I have not found it yet. I have not found that thing again. So it's, it's going to be a hard, this dating life is brutal. It's gross. It's, it's, it's hard. And it's, and I'm not finding, I'm not finding a marriage number two just yet.
Well, Kendra, I'm just curious. And for people who don't know you and your husband, Hank, you divorced in 2019, but you stood by him after a pretty big cheating scandal. And we don't have to get into all of the details, but it was very public. And I can only imagine how that must have felt. It must have felt humiliating for both of you with all of the details that came. And it was a he said, she said, whatever. But you forgave him for that. I did. You.
You took him back. So it seemed like, my God, you guys got through that. We did. Why couldn't you get through what was next? What happened next that made it so it was not okay, so that it was intolerable? I honestly, there's a, you know, it takes two people to be in a relationship. And when one person has...
When one person changes their minds on love and marriage, that's how easy it is for it to fall apart. So I will always, always want love.
My family back together. I will always want that. So till the day I die, I don't know, like if I have another chance at marriage with that man or not, like I will always want my kids to have these two, two parents together. But unfortunately that's a fantasy, you know? So I have to march in the reality of things and I have to,
Being this disgusting scum dating. Kendra, Kendra, it sounds like you're still in love with...
with Hank. I will always be in love with Hank. I will always be in love. And you know, mistakes are mistakes. Like we all make mistakes. I've made my mistakes too. Like, you know, and, and, but love will never go away. And, and if it's real love, you're going to put your pride aside and want the best for the other person. And I, and I want the best for the other person so badly. I,
I'm willing to be friends with them. There's no need for bitterness and there's no need for toxicity. So through these last six years, I have done so much therapy. I've gone even to the hospital for seven days to just –
reprogram my thinking and I did that and it really worked. So I'm now living in the state of peace of mind. I'm, you know, I'm on good meds, you know, I'm just in a really good place right now. And, you know, taking it, but taking up this, uh, taking up this new venture in real estate has really, has really, you know, got me to focus in on that and not like so much, you know, like
the past and, you know, regrets and stuff like that. So I'm like, so focused on building my real estate career that nothing is like, nothing is entering my, my world right now, other than friends and fun and good stuff. Yeah.
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Kendra, at this point, would you consider it almost a setback to all the work you've done if Hank approached you sincerely and said, I want to talk about us being together again? It sounds like certainly you haven't closed the door necessarily completely in your mind.
But would that be a bad thing for you to have to go back to and start thinking about again? I think that we would both have to be healed properly. And I don't know that other person's healing. I'm not that person. So, you know, I think it just has to do with like timing and heal, like healing and, um,
And the wanting to be in a relationship and some people don't want to be, if it's not with my ex husband, Hank, like I wouldn't want to, I don't, I don't find it fun to want to settle for someone. I don't find it. I'm kind of in a fun zone right now. I'm about to turn 40 in June. So I have like fun ideas more than just like settling for like, there's like a couple of guys in my life that I'm like,
that one just sent me flowers you know and I'm just like what is this for what is you know like I overthink everything like what what did I do like like what what does he want like I overthink everything you know and um I'm just like I'm not the type to probably settle down just yet um with anybody now if my ex came to me and be like let's let's like have a family again I'd be like yeah
But other than that, it's going to have to be Prince Charming. He's going to have to be pretty wonderful to to catch you. We had a great relationship. We used to you know, I hold on to only happy memories. So we used to go like you have a trailer and we used to, you know, take the trailer out all over the world, all over the country. And and we used to like.
Go to the lake. And like we had amazing summers. We used to go back to his hometown for a small hometown and, you know, for for for the holidays. And I just hold on to happy memories. And, you know, I guess I have a problem with trying to duplicate that.
So if someone doesn't come into my life with like a, you know, with, with a, with a Ford truck, with a trailer on the back, like, let's go. Like, I don't want it. You know, it's like, it's so weird. So if someone sends me flowers, I'm like,
I want to trail on the back of a pickup truck, not some flowers right now. It's good to know what you want. It's very good to know what you want. Maybe we should introduce her. We're going to be talking to the new guys from the Fox show, Farmer Wants a Wife. We're going to...
We're going to be talking. They have a lot of pickups and a lot of cowboy hats and a lot of trailers among these guys. There we go. There we go. Tell them about me, please. Tell them. Okay. All right. We will. That's a great idea, TJ. But Kendra, I've been seeing you putting out on social media, you're working out, you're
You're proud of what you look like as you near 40. And you know what? You do look amazing. But you talked about in your Instagram post, haters. You're actually getting hate out there for being you and being your amazing self? It's just so weird. I feel like I think...
I, you know, I started reality TV and Playboy at 18, 19 years old. And that's when the peak of my fame was, you know, right around there. So I think that people hold on to this, this image of me. And, um, I, you know, I'm not saying everyone, I'm saying certain people hold on to this image, like, Oh, you should always be this Playboy girl or whatever, but reality, you
you know, the reality burst and bubble popped a long time ago. I'm a 40 year old woman. You know, I have love handles now. I have a bush. Like, you know, like it's, it's, it's, it's not playboy anymore. Okay. It's not, it's not cute, but it's, you know, it's going to be for the right man. Is that going to help your dating prospects to put that out there though? Come on, Kendra. We're trying to help. I know, but that guy's going to have to accept all of that.
I love that though. We're getting older and that, and whoever's going to be with me is going to love all of me for forever. Like not just a part of me for a temporary. So, you know, that, so that person has to buckle up and ride that rodeo all the way because it's, it's not cute. It's not playboy. It's, it's nasty as you know, can be a lot of the times. Um, I'm kind of a mess. Um,
Kendra, is that empowering, though? Because I imagine being someone and we both you said it to you were sexualized, you were coveted, you were drop dead and you still are. But obviously at 18, it's you can't ever be that again. This drop dead gorgeous playboy model.
A lot of women in your position would create, and understandably so, all their value in how they look. And then when you start aging, it starts unraveling. How have you managed that where that was the thing, you know, people are like, oh, she's so gorgeous. She's a playboy model. She's perfect. How do you handle that?
when now you are 40 and dating again, and there's this image of you out there and maybe you even hold it or at one point held it within yourself. How do you manage that? Yeah, look, I,
I just take – I'm one personally. This is my journey I'm on. I'm not – this isn't to preach to anyone or to like – everyone can live under their own standards or their own lives. But for me personally, I'm on this road of just like – even though my boobs are fake and I got a tummy tuck one and I have a little Botox in my face, like I want to live in a pretty authentic life. So like –
you know, and, and with age, you know, I, I'm all about law of attraction and stuff like that. So I don't, I don't feel like, you know, how Pam Anderson is, is going makeup free and everything like that. Um, I'm very similar. I have a very similar outlook on life at the moment. So I've been sexualized for so much, just like she was, you know, and we went through similar things and,
And I'm kind of over chasing this fake thing. I'm over, I'm, I'm over chasing this thing. So in the meantime, like, will I get Botox again? Absolutely. You know, will I work out? Will I diet? Absolutely. But, you know, I'm just going to ride through life the way it's supposed to go. And,
And if a guy doesn't like me, oh, I just went on this date. My dumb ass. My dumb ass. I go on this date to Hawaii. This guy's like, you want to go to Hawaii? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, I don't date anyone over 30. I'm like,
whose problem is that? You know, that's not mine. That's not mine. So I'm, I'm not going to sit here and like transform myself to fit other people's needs anymore. I used to do that in Playboy. I used to like, you know, need to look a certain way or need to feel a certain way. But look, as long as I'm working out at least three days a week and
If I'm cooking and cooking for me and my kids, I'm on the right track mentally. I'm, you know, I'm, I feel fine. I feel completely at peace with myself. Now, other people, you know, and I, and I wear like, I have only have like five different outfits in my closet and I mix and match them. I'm on a budget.
Like I'm on a budget, like I'm a single mom and I'm on a budget. Like I'm not going to sit here and get facelifts and stuff like that. Like no way. I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a, like, even though Hank's in the picture, I'm, I'm alone on my end with my own finances and stuff. I'm not going to sit here and chase all these, you know, these ridiculously priced things and, and,
drain my bank account to like look a certain way, you know? Could you have to tell me how to go back? Hawaii. Did you end up in Hawaii or not? I ended up in Hawaii on a date with a guy. Okay. I met this guy a week ago. Not, not, not ago, not now, but like a couple months ago, I had met a guy a week before he went to Hawaii and he's like, let's go to Hawaii. What do you want? And I said, sure. It's better than going to some local pub. Right. So I'm like,
I'm like, let's go. Let's go. So we hop on a flight and we go to Hawaii.
And let's just say it was the most awkward. It was the most awkward date of my life. It was so awkward. How long was it? It was four days. We cut it to three days. Oh, my God. Yeah. So that's bold, though, to go on basically a first date with someone to Hawaii. You know, it's not like we were ever alone, alone. We were in a hotel or we were in a plane at the airport. Like we weren't like alone, alone. So I felt safe.
but you, but it was awkward. He was cool, but like, we just did not bond and we were stuck on this trip together for three days. And it was, it was a night, it was a nightmare. It was a night. How do you meet people? How do you date? How does it usually come about? You know, it just has to come naturally. Like I've never been on a dating app. As a matter of fact, I've been, I've been on the Raya, Raya dating list, waiting app, waiting list, uh,
For about five years now. Wait, what? They will not let me in. Why? I don't know. So I have not done it yet. I've never done a dating app. And it's just been – usually men will pop up. I go to the bar sometimes when I'm not with my kids. And a guy will just come to the bar and I'll be like, what are you doing tonight? I'm the one who – I'm the man. Because if I have some time away from my kids –
I got to get done. Like, I love that. So you approach the men and you say, what are you doing tonight? Yeah. I'm usually the guy in the situation. Yeah. That's amazing. And it works. It's it works. It works. And, um, I do have two very young, attractive, like X NFL players that are like all up on me right now. And it kind of, you know, that makes me feel young.
Okay, you said very young. What's very young NFL players? I'm 39, so young for me is like 35. So it's young. That's young. And you like your NFL guys, apparently, Kendra. I wish I could show them to the world and be like, that's like instant Botox for me. Yeah.
It really is. It's like the, it's like the mood becomes like, I become instantly hot again. If I showed a picture of who I'm, who I've had, who I'm having sex with at the moment. Now, how much of your dating life, if any, do you share with your kids? Cause how old are they now? 15 and 15 and 10 and 10. What, what do they know about mommy's dating life? Oh,
Oh, man, we're so open about it. We're just really open. We're an open household, and they think I'm funny. They think I'm, you know, it's a very lighthearted household that I have, and we have such a great relationship. So just yesterday, we were at...
We're at a restaurant and we're talking about love. And I'm like, so Hank, you know, to my son, I'm like, do you have a girlfriend? And Elijah, my daughter, I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And they're like, no. She's like, no, my
And then, but my son's like, yeah, I'm like, Ooh, let's see. Let's see a picture of her. She's so pretty. And then I'm, and they're like looking at me. I'm like, well, your guys' day life's better than mine. I have nothing. I have nothing. I like me. I might dabble into some sex every now and then, but I, I, but to date and to, and to build it, being a relationship, that's the longest farfetched thing I could possibly feel at the moment. Like I,
I hope it comes. I think I have like I'm in a bachelorette type of vibe right now. Like I'm about to turn 40. I have a 40th birthday to celebrate in Vegas. So it's like a marriage. So think of it like the marriage thing. Like I have a couple of things I need to do before I get married again. Kendra, don't get married in Vegas on the 40th. Okay. Yeah.
Please don't get married in Vegas. If I do, it'll be with like three guys, just like half. Like I've reversed it. I'd be like with three different guys. Oh, okay.
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Yeah, it's so interesting having had that experience with Hugh Hefner. Then you obviously had an amazing experience being married. But would you, just having had that experience now, polygamy, polyamorous behaviors is so accepted. I mean, would you consider, I would say, a non-traditional relationship? Because you've already had one at a time, maybe when it wasn't as accepted. But now it's so much more. Would that even be in the realm of possibilities? Yeah.
Yeah, definitely. I know that sounds like freakish and taboo, but I'd probably explore that a little bit. I probably want to. Who knows if it'll happen? Who knows if that'll happen or not? But I'm open to that. I think it'd be kind of fun. The best of the best taught me how to do it. You have to have taught me what it's like to
The OG. The OG. I only had the OG like influencer on, you know, um,
So, yeah, I mean, maybe I do want to get married again, though. I do. I do. So I just have to clean up a little bit and get ready for all start manifesting that. OK, you're open to it. You're not seeking it out now. If I heard you right. But you're still you will remain open to it. I think it's fair. Well, you know, you know what happened. So like the other day, I'm with this guy and the guy who sent me flowers. And he talks a lot about being with other women. And I'm like, OK.
And it doesn't bother me. I think it's with age or something. I kind of like, I don't really care. I'm just kind of like, wow, I don't have that jealousy thing anymore. I used to have a jealousy thing.
when I was younger, when I was in my twenties, I was married in my twenties and I used to be all crazy. Like don't what girl are you looking at? Are you looking at that girl? Why are you looking at that girl? Why are you looking? And now, now, and now I don't have, I don't feel jealous anymore. Like I, it's like if a guy wants another girl, like, so be it. That's not my problem. I was going my own way or something. Um,
Um, but all, but I'm this, this one particular guy was talking a lot about being with another, he even showed me other women and I'm just like, Oh, that's cool. Like the guy who sent me flowers and I'm like, Oh, I would still be with him. You know, I would still be with him. Um, so I don't know if an open marriage is, is, is,
I don't know if I would do that, but you know, it feels like I would do it. Just because like, I don't want to feel that toxicity ever again in my life. I never want to feel jealous or toxic or, or feel those weird jealousy feelings. It's like the worst.
That to me is probably the worst feeling ever. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. It's a feeling of insecurity, but if you're confident enough in who you are and you know what you want and you know what you don't want, I'm curious, you've shared so much of your life on reality TV. Would you ever go on a reality dating show to find love? You know what? Guess what happened? What?
I created my own dating show. I created it and it was called Kendra's Funhouse.
And it was going to be me in a house with a bunch of guys. Oh my God. I came up with it one day when I was drunk and I was like, this is like the best idea ever to get with all these hot guys, like, and then be casted. And like, I get all like, I just saw myself in a hot tub, like rubbing their abs and stuff like that. And then how fun of a show would that be? So I created, and I pitched it and they, and it actually, it was about to get picked up and I freaked out. Yeah.
I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. What? How long ago was this?
- That was like a year ago. - Kendra, it was your dream. It was called your dream. - I know, I know. - You're gonna get paid for your dream. - I know, I freaked out 'cause my son goes to a Christian school. - Okay, that makes sense. But like, you know, in three years he'll be 18 and it won't matter anymore. - Okay, okay, maybe I should pitch that again. Maybe I should pitch it again.
Do you watch any of the reality dating shows at all and go, wow, I would be on that one or I could be good on that one? Anything like that? No. That's why I've always created my own shows because I don't watch any TV. And I just all I know is how to entertain myself with myself about my life. Like I'm in my own category of like life. So that's what I would that's I would want to do my own show for sure. And, you know, and date. Yeah.
I wouldn't mind finding love on camera. I think there's one part of me that has never been seen before and that's dating, Kendra dating. - You've always been in a relationship. Always been in a relationship. - It has to happen. - That's so fascinating.
We have to make it happen. Okay. Let's, it starts here. It began here. It was announced here. Kendra, we just talked actually when we were in LA where you were are right now, we talked with, I don't know if you know who Brittany Cartwright is from Vanderpump rules. She's got the Valley now she's in the midst of a very public divorce and she was going through it still. And you could tell the emotion was raw and real. I mean, she, she's still going through the divorce. Would you have any advice for her having gone through the,
a public scandalous divorce where everyone's writing everything you say, every, you know, what would you, what advice would you give Brittany? Ooh, take a break from the media. Like, you know, take a major step back and, and, and really, um,
focus in on yourself right now because, you know, it could get super ugly. It can get messy. The more you give to the media and the limelight, the more you're going to get back. And sometimes it's not good what comes back to you. And so it's just, you know, handle as much as you can in private, you know, as much as possible. I know she has a job to entertain. She has a job. She gets paid to put her life out there.
But do the best you can with handling, you know, the situation in private. You know, I think there are kids or kid is getting older, you know, to clean, you know, just and be as giving as possible, even though it hurts. And even though like that person hurt you, like do as much as you can to like, you know, you know, just be.
know that you're going to be stuck with this person for the rest of your life and do the best you can with, you know, diffusing, diffusing the situation, diffusing any negative toxicity.
This is really, Kendra, this is part of the reason that I have, certainly I think I speak for Robes here, love doing I Do Part Two, this podcast. It has surprised us, I think, at every turn to talk to people when you, there's something everybody thinks about you when they hear your name. I just heard you give away.
an answer that you probably cannot imagine an 18, 19 year old Kendra living in that house giving in terms of advice of get out of the public eye and handle your personal business. That was such good advice in my opinion. But were you the girl in that position?
You're giving her the advice that you would have never taken back in the day. Yes. A thousand percent. Yes. A thousand percent. So there, like I said earlier, I come with a lot of regrets when it comes to show business and media. So, um,
I did handle a lot of my things too publicly and it bit, you know, and I didn't really see it then because I was living in the moment, you know, but later on, later on years down the line, I look back and I was like, why did I say, why did I do that? Why, why did I feel the need to tell the world way too much, you know? And it just, it just gets really messy really fast and,
And, you know, you might not feel it at the moment, but later on you will be thinking about it. So I wish I could turn back time and take back a few things. You know, like I went on, you know –
After Hank and I went through our problems, I went on all these live TV shows and I just gave all these interviews without healing. I never went through therapy. Instead, I used the media and entertainment to...
to be my therapy. And that was the wrong way to do it. You know, I let the devil in, I let the darkness in instead of getting the proper support and the proper help and the proper therapy, um,
to truly move forward, you know, I just got refueled. Every time I did an interview, every time I did something, it would trigger me and I would fall back into a depression. I would fall back into a depression. I would fall back into a depression. So, you know, like as much as you possibly can't, you just got to diffuse it as soon as possible. So you don't just keep living in the same cycle of, of, of toxicity. Yeah.
Well, Kendra, I have to say to hear where you are now and what you said today was nothing but kindness and love extended towards Hank, even, you know, towards yourself. I see and I think everyone listening can hear that.
Those regrets have now created the person who you are today. So I know and I hope you feel proud of that because it's remarkable to see you use that pain and those mistakes. But isn't that what mistakes are for so we can become better people? So I just I applaud you for sharing as much as you have today, but sharing it with love and with kindness.
That was beautiful to hear you talk about your ex-husband that way. And it's a lesson for all of us to learn because, you know, everyone on the show has exes, right? And a lot of the folks listening do too. Some more than others. We're racking them up. But yes, it's an important thing to remember, especially when children are involved. Exactly.
I just want to thank you for your openness and just how beautiful your words have been today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. I just think that, you know, it's, it's the truth that we're all human beings and we all are suffering our own and on our own path in some way, shape or form. And we all deserve, you know, I'm not saying we all deserve forgiveness to some degree, but,
We deserve second, third, sometimes third chances. And I think that's how life should go, you know. Yeah. All right. And Kendra, this is, she said it, I can't say any better than she said it. It's just been an absolute treat. And it's a pleasure to meet you. And we're going to keep our eye out. But again, reminder. Yeah. Any guy that sticks out, please let me, please let them know that I'm single. I'm ready to mingle. Yeah.
But if he doesn't have a pickup, a trailer or an NFL contract, he need not apply. I'll take a Lamborghini and a dinner at Nobu Malibu. You know, I'll take that. Good, good taste. All right, Kendra. Thank you so much. Thank you, Kendra. Thanks, guys.
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