Pascal and Kelly sitting in a tree - K I S S I N G - or absolutely no chance!
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Welcome back to I Do Part Two. I am one of your celebrity mentors, Jen Fessler, and I am here at Live in the Vineyard in beautiful Napa Valley. I am having the best time with I Do Part Two crew, new friends. I'm actually seeing some old friends. So we've been talking about this little matchmaking moment that we've had here on the podcast and

And I have sitting next to me the man of the hour. I want you guys to please welcome Pascal from the Golden Bachelorette back to the pod. Hello, my new friend. Hello, hello. Pascal, how are you? Very good. How are you? I am so happy to be sitting here with you. We have had a chance to get to know each other a little bit tonight. Yes. And it's been an absolute pleasure.

Same here. Thank you. Thank you for saying that. Pascal. Yes. Again, I've had a chance to spend a little bit of time with you

today into tonight and it's been a pleasure i'm a big fan already i watched a little bit of you on the golden bachelorette you got very close to the end there but you were charming i was charmed the audience was charmed i think joan was charmed the world was charmed but now we're going to talk about kelly being charmed so pascal

Talk to me about you and Kelly. You slid into her DMs. Tell me why. And then we're going to get into a little bit about how the night went.

I slim into the M. I think there was a little misunderstanding in here because I think what I found out from Gary, then he went into the, you know, the story about the Valentine's Day, about the mystery that she was going to take for the music award.

And I found that then the guy was going to go with her and then I end up seeing her with Gary. Yes. And I talked to Gary on the phone. I said, what happened? So Gary started telling me a little bit about the story. So, you know, that's how we get in touch, Kelly and I.

And then I think that's it. But you heard that she wasn't with Guy, she was with Gary. And then you just slid into her DMs because you thought, let me jump on board this. Just on board. She said, try to be funny. Yes, you try to be funny. Try to be funny. And then, you know, I just told her, I said, I think I would have been a better match as a joke. Did you know, by the way, did you know anything about her at this point? You didn't hear the podcast. Did you listen to the dating game one? No.

I heard about the dating game. I heard about the dating game and Valentine's when she had to choose one of the golden bachelor to go to the festival, the music award. So I heard that from Gary as well as I heard that from guys. Okay. Okay. But I didn't know anything about Kelly. I didn't know who she was. I didn't know. I had no idea who she was. Do you know what she looked like?

Not either. Oh, nothing. No, no, no, nothing. Oh, so it's just like, you know what? She says, you should let it be funny. Okay. All right. I like it. All right. So you took a little chance there. I took a little chance. Good for you. Okay. So you, if I say it one more time, I'm going to throw up. I hate the expression slid into her DMs. Yes. It's the dumbest fucking.

I agree. I agree.

The first time I saw her, I thought she's very attractive, definitely. She's tall, she's fit, she's fashionable. You met her when she was in a bikini. Actually, yeah, I was walking out of my hotel room, I was walking downstairs, and she was at the pool at the time. She walked out of the pool, and that's how we met. So I met her in a bikini. Right. It was there already, so I knew where she looks. Right, right, right. She's attractive, she's well-spoken, she's...

She's got a good personality. She's a lot of fun. Was she what you pictured when you were talking to her on the pod? I didn't realize how tall she was. How tall she was? Yes, yes. I mean, I think in the podcast, we were both sitting down, so we couldn't really see the height. Is that a turn-on for you? Do you like tall women? No.

I'm not, I like to be the dominant. Yeah. You know? How tall are you? I'm 5'11". You're 5'11". Yeah. Kelly's tall. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So you like to be, usually you like to be a little taller. I like to be a little bit taller. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So tell me, I mean, we just came back from this whole adventure and, and,

I guess you seem very confident to me. Were you nervous at all? I mean, I watched you guys from the beginning here and you seem very just, I don't know, sure of yourself, easy. Did you feel that way? Were you nervous? No, I wasn't nervous. I mean, remember one time, I'm in an industry where I deal with women all day long. Okay, this is what I do for a living. So I'm much more comfortable with women than I am with men.

So to me, it's very easy when there is a woman around me, it's very easy for me to engage a conversation because that's what I do.

So, no, I wasn't insecure at all. I feel very confident. I knew then the... Whatever happened after that experience is Kelly and I will be friends. Okay? And that's the best part of it is I get a new friend today. I wish that everyone... I hope that everyone's listening who is single and who is looking for love. Here's what Pascal just said and Kelly and I spoke about it a little bit and takes it to heart. Like...

At the end of the day, when you are out there and you are dating, I think the best attitude is when you meet someone new, probably not going to be a love connection. But guess what? I'm in it to make a new friend. Maybe who knows what.

will hit it off in a different way. But that is the best, healthiest attitude in my humble opinion. I'm sorry to interrupt. Please go on. Yes. I mean, I think to me, that's the way I look at it. You know, sometimes you look at somebody and you're very attractive to them. And then when you meet them, there is not that spark. But

But it doesn't mean because there is not that spark, then you cannot be friend. So I think, you know, sometimes you meet some people and you look at them and say, you know, you better keep them as a friend and lovers. And I think Kelly is a very attractive looking woman. I think she's got a lot of class. She's got a great personality. But I see her more as a friend than a partner. Okay. So interesting. Was there anything specific that she said that made you feel that way that...

No, not at all. I think we had a wonderful conversation during that event where we're together. I just need to meet all about chemistry. You know when the chemistry is there or not. I have enough experience over the years

my dating, my marriage, I know that to me, chemistry is extremely important. You think it's like hit or miss, like boom, you feel it automatically? Yes, it's hit or miss. You see somebody, you say, you know, that's the person you want to get to know. You know there is fire there, okay? Really interesting. And to me, when I see Kelly, I see how, don't get me wrong, Kelly is a beautiful woman. She's a knockout. She's a knockout, okay? She's, I mean, she's got a lot of confidence and I think she's a wonderful woman, but

I need that spark. And I had the same problem when I was in the Golden Badger. I didn't have the spark for Joan. I think Joan is a wonderful woman. She's classy, well-spoken, well-dressed, elegant, easy to talk to. But I just didn't have that spark.

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Yeah, I think you guys are a little simpatico. Like she was feeling what you were putting out. Yes. She was getting that. Did you...

Was there anything that you may have learned about her, about, I don't know, her parenting style or her type? Like, do you think about her and do you think, listen, she's a great woman. I'm sure you do think this, but not for me. Do you think of anybody else you would want to set her up with? Do you see, do you have any ideas in terms of like who she would click with if it wasn't you or why, you know? No.

You know what? I'm not a good matchmaker. I just don't know her that well. I did spend a little time with her and we talked a little bit about our marriage divorce. Was there any flirting going on? No, no, nothing like that. I think we talked a little bit about her ex-husband, her children, where she lives, how long did she live. I found out that she was living in France, in Paris for quite a few years. She

She speaks French fluently, so we engaged a bit of the French conversation together. That was wonderful. But no, she didn't do anything to turn me off or make me get away from it. I enjoy your company. I just don't think this is a good fit for me. So I just want to say this to our listeners, and I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not a relationship expert. I'm just putting it out there that what I'm hearing from you is –

So interesting. Like it just, cause Kelly is a knockout and smart and successful and a wonderful mother, but for some, whatever it was, the planets were not aligning. You didn't feel it. And there wasn't that little tiny bit of chemistry. And I think that we're from where Kelly's coming from. I think maybe, uh,

she would have given it a little more time and space and maybe, you know, seen it that I don't know what the right thing here is. Again, I'm not a relationship expert, but it sounds like for you, you're the type of man that if you don't feel it, you don't feel it. You're not going to feel it. Let's be friends. You can appreciate the fact that she's beautiful and desirable and wonderful. It's not even about her, but the chemistry wasn't there. And so, you know, it's not, it's not always about beauty, right?

Okay. Agreed. You know, it's not always about beauty. I think beauty is, we have a tendency to be a little bit too superficial by looking at a woman. We want her to be beautiful. I mean, I've been out with some beautiful woman where the chemistry wasn't there. And I went out with some woman who weren't so attractive where the chemistry was there. I think it's not, it's not about a beauty.

It's just something chemical. The chemistry wasn't there. And that's not something you could develop. You have it or you don't. I mean, sometimes, you know, I've met someone. It's there. I know I want to get to know this person. I want to engage in conversation. I want to get to know her. Right.

And Kelly, I want to get to know her as a friend. I don't think there is any physical attraction. And again, she's a very attractive looking woman, but she's not the type of woman I'm looking for. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why I'm thinking that this is so healthy and fabulous that we could like talk about it. You can be, you know, so appreciative of her.

who she is and yet say it just didn't, there was no spark for me. And I don't know, like it just makes, to me, if I'm single, I feel like that's so encouraging. You know, you can go out with someone, they could see that you're a wonderful person, interesting, beautiful, intelligent, and just that's okay that there's not a spark there. And so you just, we just keep moving, right? Because you're going to spark with someone else. Yes, yes, yes. I mean, it's not about Kelly or you necessarily or...

It's just, it's there or it's not. And that's okay. You know it when it's there or it's not. I've got enough experience over the years with dating and marriage. And I know then, you know, it has to be that special sense, that special touch, that special... Yeah, I think that some people feel like maybe Kelly felt like she would have given it some more time and maybe that would have...

you guys could have found that, but it doesn't really matter. In the end, you both, it seems to me, you both thought that he, she thought wonderful things about you as well. She said all nice things to say. Okay. So now we move on. But before we move on,

We're bringing Kelly back in. Okay. Okay. Which you know is going to be fun. Okay. We're all adults. Oh, yes, we are. I think this is so evolved. We've handled it all so beautifully. Yeah. And we're going to bring back your new friend. Okay. Kelly Bansamone. Love to, love to.

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