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Future Health is not a health care services provider. Meds are prescribed at provider's discretion. Results may vary. Sponsored by Future Health. Hey, y'all. I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. When You're Invisible is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped me. Season two shares stories about community and being underestimated. All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks. Let's do something about it.

We get paid to serve you, but we're made out of the same things. It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back.

Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti-racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last.

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Welcome back to I Do Part Two. I'm Cheryl Burke, one of your celebrity mentors here on the podcast. This podcast has been fun for me because I'm an open book, as you guys know, when it comes to my love journey. And on this show, I get to meet other people and talk about their own experience with love and heartbreak and second acts and how their experiences have shaped them. So I'm going to be talking about how I do part two.

Today on the podcast, I'm going to be joined by someone who's had her fair share of heartbreak. You know her from The Real Housewives of Orange County. Please welcome Megan King to the pod. Well, first of all, welcome to I Do Part Two. Would you say that you're in your I Do phase, Part Two, Megan? Not really. I don't know. Like, I feel like I did that a while ago. Right. So Part Three? Yeah.

I mean, part nothing. Like who's counting? No, no. I already did that. We're talking about the past. I do part two a while ago. Right. Okay. So how is it currently then? I mean, I'm dating and, but like mainly I'm focusing on myself, my kids and money. Okay.

Right. Like your career and all of that, like hustling. Supporting myself and my kids. Yeah. Yeah. I saw your post that it was so, you know, heartwarming and reading your caption just felt, I don't have kids and I can't relate obviously, but it was super just transparent and honest. And I really appreciated that. And how was that whole experience with your daughter? Oh, to be like on a trip with her by night?

Oh, you're right. Like that was really moving for me. I knew that

I like time with my children individually is really special. And, but I don't often get afforded that privilege because I'm a single mother and I do have help because I have to, because I'm a working mother. But like when I do have help, I take advantage of that by not being home by working. Right. And so when I'm home, I have my three children with me at once. And, um,

It's it's really in my head. It's always like a really special gift to be able to spend one on one time with them. And I did. But like I never put it like a whole lot of effort into that. And so when I was able to do this with my daughter, I was really looking forward to it. I took her skiing in Idaho and it was so amazing. First of all, it was really easy. One. Yeah.

Piece of cake. It was like nothing. It was, it was like hanging out with a friend and he realized how good of a mom I am. You are. I am always like trying to chase my tail as a single mom of three kids. And when I just had this one experience, I realized it's okay. You can celebrate like what you're doing because you're doing a good job.

Absolutely. And I think that was just like, I'm sure you just related to so many moms out there, but I do have to ask, I know you don't want to talk about the past, but we need to know a little bit about your love journey and, you know, you saying you're being a single mom and just remind our listeners what that in a short few sentences, what that is for you. I was married to my ex-husband. We had our first daughter together via IVF.

we recorded that journey on the Real Housewives of Orange County. And shortly after 18 months, to be exact, I had twin boys. And shortly after that, I went through a very public scandal slash divorce with my ex-husband and things have gotten progressively worse since and

And it's been five years now. And, um, my, I've been five years, a single mother minus like a little blip on the radar there of a big mistake called an annulment. But that was literally like three months of my life total. And, um,

And here I am like still navigating the waters of single motherhood. Yeah. And do you want to ever maybe play around with getting married again? Or is that just not on your radar?

Yeah, I think, um, like having a life partner for me is very important and I want to be with someone. Um, but what I've learned through my relationships is that there's no one who's going to fill a void for me. Um,

There are voids. Don't get me wrong in my life, but those voids need to be filled by myself. And then I can accept someone who's going to enhance my life after that, not someone who's going to fill a void. Because when I allow that void to be filled by another individual, that invites me

Me to accept a lot of faults and turn a blind eye to red flags. And I realized that through some failed relationships, including that annulment that I spoke of and, yeah,

That's not what we're doing anymore. We're in it and we got this five years. I've done this for five years. I don't know how, but here I am surviving. I mean, like an alcoholic, like I am an addict. Honestly, it's one day at a time. I haven't dated in three years and I don't, I'm good. I am fine. And since my divorce, I'm like, I just have no interest. Really? Why not? Yeah.

Because I owe it to myself to date myself after being a serial dater for from 13 till 37. You're master dating. What? You're master dating. You're dating yourself. Absolutely. But I owe that to myself. Like I'm enjoying this drama free zone in this home that I live in and I have zero interest, but I,

Back to you. Okay. What has like co-parenting been like for you and your ex? It's been not co-parenting. It's been parallel parenting. And parallel parenting is a term that people use when there's very little communication or, you know,

teamwork with the other parents. And it's more like one party is parenting and the other party is parenting separately. And that's what I've been doing. And that is not ideal for the children at all. Yeah. And but sometimes that's, you know, what

The cards have been dealt and it's horrible. Do you see that how it affects? Because I come from a divorced family and my dad was just like nowhere to be found. I mean, he was he left the country. So like there was really no co-parenting right at all. So until my mom met my stepfather. Total single mom situation. Yeah. No, for a good solid, I would say no.

four or five years, like at the prime, you know, of when I needed a father figure, most likely. Have you seen it affect, like, are your kids in therapy or...

Oh yeah. They're in therapy. Yeah, for sure. That's good. Yeah. It's cute. Like they love it. And I think like a special gift I've given them because I started them in therapy before they understood that therapy was a trigger word. That's so good. For them, therapy is just a word that we use, like go play outside. It's just natural to them. And they speak about it with their friends. Like it just rolls off their tongue. And I love that.

That they have that and they're like, so good. Which were of normalcy. I love that they're talking to their friends about it because there's, there was back when I was that age, probably a lot of shame behind therapy, you know, like you only go there if you're crazy. I don't know what it was when I was their age.

Totally. It's so good. Well, my mom, I mean, I went, I started at four, but like my mom for her generation, there was no way in hell. Like, but where are you from? I'm from the Bay area.

So you're from California. Like that's progressive. I'm from Missouri. Well, I went to therapy because I got molested when I was a little girl. So that was a necessity. Yes. Yes. So my mom did what like, you know, she was she was a nurse as well. So she knew exactly what to do. Now, if you're talking her generation coming from the Philippines, like that is a big no, no, you know, therapy. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a taboo associated with that. Yeah. Have you found a tribe of women to like support you during this time or are you more of a person who likes to be alone? No, I, I found I've, I have a tribe of people and combined men, men, women. But yeah,

For me, like, I think like I found a ton of support in women and especially my best friend who's also a single mom who's been through and going through a very similar situation to me.

And it's just nice to be able to relate to somebody in the way that I can talk to her and say, X, Y, Z is happening. And basically what I'm saying is Armageddon is happening. And she doesn't react like with, you know, her jaw to the floor. She reacts like, okay, we can handle this because she understands that. There's something to be said for Armageddon.

someone who understands or can

can, can like absorb and, and react to my trauma in a way that is normal. Yeah. Instead of like thinking that the world is falling apart. Judging or people are like, yeah, I hear, no, I totally hear you. And there's not a lot of people out there like that. You know, without, first of all, we're all human judgment happens, but also like,

You just want to be able to speak freely about whatever is going on without thinking twice about it, especially within your inner circle. And not only that, it takes a ton of energy to speak about what I'm going through. And I don't love to relive that. I don't really like to talk about it. But do you feel like it heals a little part of you every time you do? I feel like there's a sort of release when it's the right audience. Yeah.

Otherwise, I feel like it's a job. I hear you. And are you in therapy? No. I feel like I have a weird...

Take on therapy. Say more. Therapy is very therapeutic. It's supposed to be, as the word says. I mean, it depends on who you're going to. There has to be a relationship and all that. But I think therapy is meant to be there until you've learned your lesson. And I feel as if, for the most part, with my situation with my ex-husband, I've learned my lessons. And I know what they're...

the advice that would be given to me. And therefore, like, I know how to apply it. It's whether or not I do it. Also, I don't know, like, I'm analytical and I'm emotionally aware. Sometimes I think that therapy is just a waste of time for me because I've already done it. And I either apply it or I don't. I mean, it's different for everybody, right? Like, for real. Like, I think that

I mean, there's no like check. Like I'll be in therapy for the rest of my life. I just know that. But-

That's my situation, right? And do you feel like you're missing an unbiased opinion? No, because I get my therapy from other sources. So it's not like a therapist per se, which I do. I do see a therapist like intermittently. Yeah. It takes a long time to like get to know them. It's a lot. It's heavy. You have to explain everything again. Like it's a whole thing, right? And it's expensive if you see, if you're not going through. And it's a perfect relationship, right? Like it has to be the right match. Yes, exactly.

That's very important. I mean, there's a lot of people that say, I just tried it and didn't work out for me. And I always say, try again. Because there's just... I've been through...

10 and now I've been with my last therapist or my current one for like almost 20 years so it's like when you find the right one you stick to it unless she retires or he retires so I have a life coach I work with oh okay that's great yeah and that's similar to a therapist they're not like they're not certified but yes correct so they're still unbiased right yeah

That's great. That's awesome. Okay. Let's transition into dating here. Um, tell me about your dating life. Um, okay. So I've been, um, in a on and off relationship for several years and that's safe and, um, then like comfortable. And then, but like,

Outside of that, I date casually and it's fun. I was actually just thinking about this a couple of days ago. I love falling in love. It's like addiction. It brings something up, right? One million. And I love it. It's the most fun thing ever to fall in love. But guess what? That's not sustainable. And that's not...

It's real in the moment, but it's not real in the longterm. No. And so there's something really special about this relationship that I've had on and off for five years that I think that, okay, I'm going to get deep here. We love deep. When I was in my relationship with my ex, he has a lot like looking back, he has some traits of what some might think of narcissistic like me. And I,

a typical like trait of a narcissist is to like love bomb and like you fall in love quickly. And that's, and I did that. That was amazing. And then it ended poorly for me, but for me as like a late 20 year old, that was how I thought love was supposed to be. And so I think that's what I still seek in a lot of ways. And that's not like we said, sustainable, right.

And so I'm like trying to get out of that cycle. But to get out of that cycle means to like get out of that like huge release of serotonin and to like keep, you know, consistent with like this a stable individual or a stable relationship.

You have to retrain the brain and that is really difficult if like you have to do things that are not comfortable, right? That are that you have to be aware, which I think you are. Obviously, you're saying that you're aware of what you were or still attracting, right? As far as personality traits go.

And I feel like I can relate because I am just a bad picker because my sense of home was abuse, right? So my abuse is what I was attracting and people who were unavailable, men that were unavailable. And I still can gravitate towards that. My lazy brain, I like to say, like my subconscious is very used to that. That is my home. I was disgusted by nice people, right? So there was that because I never experienced that. So I was like...

Well, with all of this, obviously I didn't like myself, let alone love myself. And then I was like, I was attracting people.

that type of, um, just people around me, both romantic and not romantic. Do you, um, are you active in untraining the brain to then train it? Absolutely. And I completely relate to what you're talking about, like speaking of, uh, with the, the attraction quotient, um,

I think that that's like a very revealing part of who we are that sometimes we don't want to look at, you know, like you are, you are who you were raised by and that too. And it's to, to break those generational cycles and to, and to break even not generational, like just to break like your own life cycles is really difficult to stop. And yeah,

It takes like a ton of inner work. And not only that, like a ton of being comfortable with myself. And that is the fucking hardest part. And I mean to love the body I'm in from head to toe and to love everything about me, including my anxiety, including the bad things that I've done and not to love them and not to be proud of the bad things, but to say to those things,

I see you. I understand this. I understand how you feel. And this is okay. We're going to get through this and then to move on from there. Because I think that once I recognize the feelings and the person that I am, that allows me to love myself more and then to be able to heal.

Totally. It's just like you have to mother your inner child, you know, because that's exactly what it is. And it's so amazing that you're very aware of this and you should be proud of yourself because I am. That's a lot to swallow. It is. Yes. Thank you. I am. Thank you.

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Hey y'all, I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible, is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season two is all about community, organizing, and being underestimated.

All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, "This sucks. Let's do something about it." I can't have more than $2,000 in my bank account or else I can't get disability benefits. They won't let you succeed. I know we get paid to serve you guys, but like, be respectful. We're made out of the same things: bone, body, blood.

It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the My Cultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back.

Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti-racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last.

Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started to live a double life when I was a teenager. Responsible and driven, and wild and out of control. My head is pounding. I'm confused. I don't know why I'm in jail. I don't know why I'm in jail.

It's hard to understand what hope is when you're trapped in a cycle of addiction. Addiction took me to the darkest places. I had an AK-47 pointed at my head. But one night, a new door opened, and I made it into the rooms of recovery. The path would have roadblocks and detours, stalls and relapses. But when I was feeling the most lost, I found hope with community, and I made my way back.

This season, join me on my journey through addiction and recovery. A story told in 12 steps. Listen to Crumbs as part of the Michael Lura Podcast Network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there?

We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons, and birds. But what if there's something else? Something much more ominous that appears under the cover of night. Silent. Unseen. Watching. They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road. Or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Drones.

Or are they? We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people. One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Now I have to ask you about this ring post on October 6th, to be exact, or 9th. Okay. Say more. What ring? You showed like an engagement. Was it an engagement ring? Did that you posted on Instagram? Let me look it up. Or maybe it was an Instagram. It was a different social platform, but I'm pretty sure it was in October. It was on Instagram.

and it was a ring yes oh come on you cannot forget about your unless you have people posting for you no i post my own stuff october six unless you erased it i don't think it was october six it was in october okay come on it was a string it was in a string it was like in a carousel was it a big ring was it a little it was a carousel of pictures

Well, it had to be my big ring. October 20th, per my producer. Okay. October 1st, October 28th. It was in a carousel, I believe.

I mean, you could have just been a ring. I got it. I'm looking. Oh, that one. Oh, yeah. That one. So pretty. It is pretty. That's why we're talking about it. Say more. I wish that was mine. What? I forgot about that. Were you ring shopping? What was all of that about? Hell, yeah. I'm always ring shopping.

For an engagement ring? Come on. Whose is that? I wonder who's that. That is. Is that your hand? My friends have really beautiful, big ass rings. And I just thought I was gorgeous. And by the way, I think you're, you know what? I have a really good lie detector. I think you're lying, but that's okay. You do? Yeah. I'm like almost psychic. I swear to God. My grandma was, it's this whole thing. It's like, I am, I can smell you from a mile away. Do you think somebody's going to buy that for me?

I mean, yeah. I mean, I have a Poshmark account. I can just sell it for you if you want. It's not mine. No. I wish it was mine. Okay. So you're playing coy. Obviously, you don't want to say more than that, right? I'm not. I'm not. Was it just a random picture? No. I think it was my friends. My friends have really big diamonds, and I love to try them on. And I think I will be prepared. If I hear that you're engaged in one week from today, I'm going to...

Murder you. Who's going to be the husband, Cheryl? I don't know. I mean, who knows? So how many people are you dating at the same time right now? I mean, you're going to have to give me some tips here. So in my head, I love to date multiples at the same time. Really? I don't know how you do that. In my head, I said. That's fine. I still don't do that in my head. How do you do that?

I don't know. I'm like, oh, I'm a modern woman. I'm going to date like some guys. And like, you know, I'm going to like just be free. I cannot. I wish I could. I get, I am so not like that. I'm monogamous. Big time. Like when I have sex with you, you're screwed. You might as well marry me. There's a lot to be said for that and say, and like, I try not to be that way, but like, that's how my brain works. That's how my body works. And I can't help it.

So, okay. How are you on a dating app? Like, how do I do this? If you were me, if we were besties and you were here with me and I was just like, it was this Friday, it was a weekend. See, I'm a hermit. I'm like, I am so too comfortable alone with my Frenchie and it's just the two of us bitches and we're hanging out, you know? So like, what would you say? Yeah.

what are the first steps when i'm interested in dating because i'm just not right now but anyway no i'm like you're not interested like there's at all for you okay there's nothing you do you stay in with your frenchie and you watch love is blind thank you i'm halfway through season eight like i get it i get it thoughts but

Yeah, I know. No, it's not for you, Cheryl. It's not for you. You are our audience. So our listeners are very interested in this. So say more. What the audience, what the listeners do is they go on a nap if they want. Okay. Which I think they should because it's like good to look at.

Okay. I'm on Hinge and Raya and they both are horrible. Are there? Okay. Well, why would you say then do it when it's horrible? Because it's good to know what the, what like the pickings are. Okay. Got it. So you're just judging a book by its cover as you're swiping through. Okay. Got it. Books by its cover. Yes. What we do. Gain some confidence, like go. And then, um,

Go out to, like, IRL and beeps and put yourself out there and say, like, hey, I noticed you're not wearing a ring on your finger. That's bold. That's a bold statement. But it's true. Like, that starts a convo. And then they're never like, thanks for pointing out the obvious. Like, okay, is that how we're starting this conversation? No, they usually try to, like, play it cool. But you're right. I would totally say that if I was a guy. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, if they say it to you, you can totally steal it. They must. You know what? That is a terrible pickup line. I've never gotten that response. They must just never get pickup lines. I mean, they just must like you. There's no pickup line needed. Oh, maybe, maybe they. Maybe it's just like a high. Short and sweet.

Do you know that Ozempic and Semaglutide are GLP-1s? Of course you do. How many people do you personally know that use weight loss medications? Future Health is giving millions of people affordable access to weight loss meds for less than $3 a day. Almost 2 million people in the U.S. were taking Semaglutide medication in 2021, more than three times as many as in 2019. This is so much more than a trend.

I have a friend who has always struggled with their weight. It's been so hard to watch as they tried fad diet after fad diet, their weight would go down, it would come back, and they would just not reach the goals that they want for themselves. And now just seeing them after working with Future Health and trying GLP-1s, the difference that they have in their own confidence. And it's so great to see that now with the scientific data,

the proof that GLP-1s can help them is just, it's a no-brainer for them. And I am so happy for them. Future Health gives millions of people affordable access to weight loss meds for less than $3 a day.

Find out if weight loss meds are right for you in three minutes at tryfh.com. That's tryfh.com. Again, tryfh.com. Future Health is not a healthcare services provider. Meds are prescribed at provider's discretion. Results may vary. Sponsored by Future Health.

Hey y'all, I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible, is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season two is all about community, organizing, and being underestimated.

All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, "This sucks. Let's do something about it." I can't have more than $2,000 in my bank account or else I can't get disability benefits. They won't let you succeed. I know we get paid to serve you guys, but like, be respectful. We're made out of the same things: bone, body, blood.

It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the My Cultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back.

Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti-racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last.

Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there? We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons, and birds. But what if there's something else? Something much more ominous that appears under the cover of night. Silent. Unseen. Watching.

They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Drones. Or are they? We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people. One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond amazing.

Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurem, Invasion of the Drones, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started to live a double life when I was a teenager. Responsible and driven, and wild and out of control. My head is pounding. I'm confused. I don't know why I'm in jail. I don't know why I'm in jail.

It's hard to understand what hope is when you're trapped in a cycle of addiction. Addiction took me to the darkest places. I had an AK-47 pointed at my head. But one night, a new door opened, and I made it into the rooms of recovery. The path would have roadblocks and detours, stalls and relapses. But when I was feeling the most lost, I found hope with community, and I made my way back.

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Yeah. Like the dating part. No, but the relationship part. Yes. Have they met anybody other that you've dated before or. Yeah. So I've been single since my kids have been one and three, one, one and three. And I,

Initially, I was like, oh, I'll just like introduce them to everybody. And I did like anybody who came to the house to like pick me up like, oh, hi, this is my friend, Bob or Joe, Bill or whatever. Yes. But then once they started having a memory thing.

I'm like, I stopped. And so what do you mean once they started having a memory, they're going to, what do you mean? Well, they were three and one and one. You know what? My first memory, I was two. My very first memory. Listen, I'm not saying that like certain things haven't stuck with them, but I don't think like Bill and Bob and Joe are necessarily going to like lay like deep seated memories in their brain. Totally. They're in therapy. We're good. We're good. Um, they're in therapy. Um,

But like, so like after a couple of years, I'm like, okay, this is done. I thought I'd be married at that point. I thought it'd be like, oh, done. Like they would never have a memory without me being with her. And so it was like a new thing for me to have to.

to take that, like to make my dating life separate from my children, which I did. And my kids don't have any conscious memory of me having a boyfriend. I'm just messing with you. Well, I don't care. You can come at me. Like it's true. I'm never coming at you. I'm just messing around. I don't have kids. So I have no idea. I mean, my first memory was when I was three, I was like going down on my bicycle, but I

down a hill and I was scared. I remember that when I was three years old, but like, I don't remember my mom's friend from college. Yeah, no, I hear you. My, my first memory was with my real father naked having sex with another woman in his apartment. Yeah. That sounds like traumatic. That would make a mark. It was another Filipino woman. Clearly he had a tight breast and piece dad.

Yeah. So that I'll never forget. That was interesting. Okay. So when do you wait? So you have three kids, right? Yeah. Your daughter is the oldest. Yeah. She's eight. So are you going to ever talk to them about your dating life? Yes. And I do. Okay. Like very fluid with them. Yeah. In the sense where like,

But it's different. Like my kids, it's not like they ask about dating. It's like in their minds, there's friends and there's husbands. There's nothing in between. And so I'm like, okay, they'll be like, mommy, will you look for a daddy? Will you get a dad? And I'm like, no, we're good without a daddy. And then they're like, can we get a mommy then?

That's funny. Honestly, that would be better. So do you guys split custody? Like how does, do they see their father? They, yes, they see. Got it. You know, I have this debate going on in my head, but also in one of the episodes I did here with Heather, our producer. And I said that, you know, coming from a divorced family, like I was basically just raised by my mom and a couple of nannies. Right. But,

I believe, cause I'm thinking like for me, obviously I'm not going to ever have a kid that I'm 40 and almost 41. And I'm, I don't want to have a kid like naturally, right? Like that. But like, I wouldn't mind possibly maybe having one down the road. Right. Like, and I'm not ready right now, whatever. Anyways, the point is that I'm not opposed to raising a kid as a single parent. I think it's almost healthier than doing so with a partner.

I could see that. I think that if I was entering into a relationship where I was starting to have children, I wouldn't look at the person as a romantic partner. I would look at them as a life partner and a business partner, more or less. Can I raise this child? Do our values align and the ways to raise a child? Because

Yes, like maybe our values align in the ways of having sex, but, you know, or financially or whatever. But children, that's a whole different ballgame. And there's so many, as we both know, factors that go into a relationship. But when it comes to the children, that is the one thing that like,

If it's not perfectly aligned and you and the other person are, you know, the proverbial you and the other person split up and the children part isn't aligned, that's going to cause tension for the rest of those children's lives, which I'm through. Yeah.

And I did that to my children because I was so focused on loving my partner for me and having children for me. I didn't think about the long-term repercussions of if we split because in my head, we just stay together. That's not how life works necessarily.

Can you imagine, I think about this too often, if my parents stayed together, I would have been way messed up more than I am today. Of course. Of course. And like, there's so much to be said for that. I think like you have your ideal situation, you know, in every, you know, potential situation, like a nuclear family with a mom and a dad who love each other for a hundred million years and blah, blah, blah, blah.

But like the, we can only do the best with what we are given. And if that's not aligned, then that shouldn't, then like we should go elsewhere to like give, you know,

ourselves, first of all, the best that we can give ourselves, because that's the only way we can give the best to our children. When you say that you want to find somebody like a life partner, have you, has there any, has there been anybody that's even like come close to that checklist of whatever it is? That's a good question, Cheryl. I love to romanticize. So I would love to say absolutely. But like,

Honestly, at this point, I don't know if that really exists. Because perfect doesn't. No. And people are people. Are they going to be good people and consistent and stable and solid people?

and there. And that's scary. Yeah. It's scary to expect that because you're bound to then break it, right? Like the expectations of somebody is not, is something that you're, that's the thing. It's like, we're not yogis either. We can't just go into relationships, not having expectations. Cause especially when you're dealing with other humans, right? Like I can't even imagine. So do you feel like in a way you're going to wait till your kids are

adults until you settle? No, I like I wanted to be with someone well before now. And I'm not. But that's okay. It's okay.

And I'm happy. Is it okay? Yes. It's okay. Okay, good. Absolutely. Are you kidding? I have this beautiful home. I've decorated it for myself. It's like... I thought you were in a museum. Thank you. I'm so happy, like in the space that I've created for myself and my children. Good for you.

I just didn't imagine it being this way. Like there's a big difference in like being happy and then having expectations. Like they don't necessarily have to align. No, and it doesn't have to be black and white like that either. Are you content? Yeah.

Beyond. That's amazing. But I still have goals. Being content doesn't mean that you're not... That doesn't relate. I mean, you can still have goals and just not... And live a drama-free freaking life. And that's what I'm so happy in. I'm not like... Okay, so happy is not sustainable, but contentment is. And this is the thing. It's like I've...

I'm not fighting with anybody. I'm not freaking out about something. I'm not being jealous. I'm not worrying. I'm not this. And it's like the list goes on. And I think that my, my nervous system has finally regulated to the point where there's fear. I mean, I'm not going to say that I'm not scared, but of course it's all fear related as to why I'm not dating. Not all, but a little bit of it. But it's okay. And by the way, it's okay. Like give yourself grace, you know?

Every day I pull a card and I pull it usually in front of... Like actually? Yes. That's amazing. Physically. What type of cards? So I use a deck of cards from...

Gabrielle Bernstein. Yes. Uh-huh. She has like this awesome spiritual. Yeah. Yeah. Spiritual, like manifesting. Yeah. Of kind of like tarot-ish cards, but they're not. And so every day I show. Like affirmations, right? Correct. Yeah.

They're affirmations. That's exactly what they are. And every day I shuffle them and I pull one. And sometimes my kids want to pull one. I let each of them pull one and I leave them out in the kitchen for the whole day. And I talk to my kids about what it means. And I really try to live it. And I start the morning out with it, with my coffee every morning. And it's just like a good reminder that we're okay in the space that we're in. Do you meditate?

I do. I'm not very good at it. What does that mean? You're not good at it though. It's hard for me to center my brain. So I do it more through breath work. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah. I feel the same. Do you? Yeah.

I mean, I studied transcendental meditation. I mean, I went full on for that period as soon as I got separated. But it's hard because I am a competitor, obviously, you know, my whole life I compete with myself. And it's like hard to not shame myself when I don't do it twice a day, every day for a

you know, God knows how long, right? Yeah. 20 minutes twice a day. It's like, then there's like, Oh, then the shame. And like, I'm like, okay, so we're working on that though. I mean, it's better doing it once a week than nothing at all. Right. So we're, we're just taking it one day at a time, like my addiction. Um, so I want to pick your brain a little bit before I let you go. Do you watch reality TV or is that just not of interest to you? You watch love is blind.

Oh, I love the trashiest ones only. Which ones? So like the trashier, the better. Like 90 Day Fiance. Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I don't think I like trashy though. See, I can't even watch the really long seasoned one. What's that one called? It doesn't matter. You just pop in. I kiss a lot of my dog gets anxiety when they hear she hears people yelling. Yeah. Oh, shit.

worth it. So 90 Day Fiance is amazing. Love is blind. I love traitors. Yeah. That's all I can think of right now. Do you watch Housewives? No. That's okay. I feel bad saying that. I feel bad. Why? I don't know. I'm a part of this fraternity of sisterhood and I feel like I'm not being supportive.

I hear you. I mean, look, if it wasn't my job to watch Dancing with the Stars, I don't think I would either. So it's a little bit like, and that's okay because I think when you know the ins and outs of something, it just doesn't hit the same as if like, if I were on Love is Blind, I probably wouldn't watch it either because it's kind of like, great. They barely use anything that we talked about, you know? I could see that. Also, like in a weird human way, I feel like I'm like the one who's

who can't sit at the table i'm the one who's left out and wasn't invited to the party do you is that true well yeah i mean i'm not on the show but yeah it's um i mean i've been off for gosh almost a decade now would you go back i don't i mean maybe yeah i think like life's really different um so it's diff it's hard to say you know like i would want to be more

with my children now that they're older and they're individual. Before, they were just like extensions of me and babies and like just gaga-googa. And now they're real people with their own lives and problems. Personalities and opinions. What do you think of Gretchen coming back? I think it's great. I like them bringing back people. And I think like...

about other franchises, but OC has a really good camaraderie of people. I still talk to a lot of people, most of them, I was on the show with. That's good. Feels good. Yeah. I think you would be perfect. They should definitely bring you back. The last time I watched Housewives was with you on it, I think. Oh, thanks! I mean, I don't, I barely watch television, and if I do, it's like in the background, just background noise and it's left as a blind.

Yeah. I've always... I pitched the president of Netflix recently. I'm like, they should do a celebrity version. And he's like, well, that just won't work. And I'm like, but we can make it work if we change our voices. Yes, we can. We can make it work. Change our voices? Yeah. So that the voice wouldn't necessarily... Like when you're talking to them with the wall... It would be like a robot voice? No, it doesn't have to... I mean...

listen there's ai nowadays it could be a porn porno voice like a porn star voice i don't know whatever you want you get to choose you just change your name change your name or just don't talk about your career there's like certain rules wait that would be so good cheryl i know thank you would you go on it yes that's why i pitched it but you don't even want to date

Well, it's different when you're dating a wall. I love dating walls. I've been dating four walls here in this home, huh? Until you marry them and love is blind. I mean, yeah, it's all temporary, isn't it? Just like our lives. Okay. Would you go on traitors? One million. You would be great. Which one? We should do it together. A traitor or a faithful? No, I don't think you can be a traitor.

You would be someone that someone would say, you're a traitor. Like, you know what I mean? I think I would really be good at it. You would be good. Yeah, thanks. You would be. They're going to have like 10,000 seasons. So don't worry. Exactly. We'll be on the 10,000th one. Well, hopefully not that far, but. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being vulnerable and for everything that you do.

just speak of. It's not easy. Thank you. I loved that conversation with Megan and I just love how real she is. And, you know, she's just honestly living day by day.

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