"A Dárqueness But A Charm" (w/ Matt & Bowen)
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Look, man. Oh, I see. Bowen, look over there. Is that culture? Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Awash in culture. Awash. I am underwater. I'm in the dunking tank of culture. First things first. Okay. I'm the realist. First things first. I'm the realist.

I want to tell everyone where I am. Yes. I'm in a hotel in Austin. It's the same hotel that the Real Housewives of Potomac stayed in on their bad trip to Austin. They had a bad series of episodes in Austin and they stayed at this hotel. I'm still gagged. It was like five episodes last season. It was so long.

At that point, I had like fallen off. I was like, I don't like the vibe here. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'll save it for I Don't Think So Honey. I'm back to I Don't Think So Honey, Giselle fucking Bryant. That fucking lady. She definitely tried it this time again. She tried it. Well, in a way that's like,

A straight up lie. I don't want to get in the muck with these fucking people. Well, it feels like you're mucking it up. Well, I've been in the muck with Giselle since the beginning. You know what I mean? Producer Beck is saying, okay, no, but I do. Well, yeah, we can all get in the muck. But, you know, I will make an exception in this case because I'm happy to get back into the mud pit. Well, stay tuned for that one at the end of the episode. We're getting in the muck of it all.

I just hope I'm staying in Mia's bed. At least someone I know. Do we stand Mia? Can I tell you something Bowen?

I can't help it. Every time Mia Thornton comes on screen, I'm smiling. I'm happy. And Jacqueline as well. Well, we love Jacqueline. I just finished this week's episode. I actually haven't seen this week's episode yet. So did Mia do something absolutely absurd? Yes. And actually in a way that is really deeply painful to her children. Oh, no. Okay. All right. Let me... She literally... No, can I just spoil it for you? This is what happens. She goes...

She's with her kids. Gordon's about to come and she goes, okay, so you know how mommy and daddy are getting a divorce? And then the kids go, no. What? She didn't. She like saved it for the camera. This woman is not like tracking anything about her children. She doesn't want, she's in the name of protecting their innocence, quote unquote, is like communicating with them in a way that is so funny.

That is bad. That I think, like, will have repercussions in the future. And I really, these sweet children, I go, God damn it. Your mom is like, your mom is a broken person, obviously. But like for her to, you know, pass this down is really tough to watch. Literally while the cameras are rolling, I can't stand Mia Thornton. I'm sorry.

She could never be Angie Kay. No, she could never be Angie Kay. By the way, no one could. No one could ever be Angie Kay. There's a new Supreme. There is truly, deeply a new Supreme. Let me tell you something. As someone who currently has high body count hair,

I am so happy to have this expression. When was the last time we had something at this magnitude? Honestly, the last time we may have been given this much of a gift was probably receipts-proof timeline screenshots. Salt Lake City is just quite simply the best show on television. It's one of the best shows ever to be broadcast on television in the...

under 100 year history of the medium. Wow, to think it's under 100 years old. What are we going to do for the 100th birthday of television? We have to throw the party. We have to throw the party. We will do a list. We'll do a countdown. Salt Lake City, spoiler alert, number one show to ever, ever exist.

High body. That's a high body count hair. That's a high body count dress. This is not high body count hair. That's not high body count hair. I look like a mother. And then for Lacey to go, okay, but you do need the Caritas Aromatique. You do need Caritas Aromatique. Caritas Aromatique. Caritas Aromatique. Whatever it was. Honestly, what a perfect episode. You never could have known from Meredith pitching her bat mitzvah in the very first episode that it would pay off in this way.

And then Meredith calling back security, security at the end. What a brilliant. And Ashley having security, security. Oh my God. I can leave. I weigh, I weigh 90 pounds. What did she say? There was so much. The last five, I was telling you, you were on a flight, but we were on the group chat. The group chat was popping off being like, oh my God, this week's episode of Salt Lake is one for the damn books. Yeah. And I was telling you the last five, five minutes are peak security.

Peek, peek, peek. Oh, my God. To say nothing of Mary coming late and peeking through the windows. I saw a TikTok because, of course, I did, because the true genius artists are really working on TikTok. That's really the medium where the true genius artists are working now. It was to Taylor Swift's song, I look in people's windows. And it was Mary just like peeking in. I feel like I'm some deranged weirdo.

God, Mary M. Cosby is the Taylor Swift of America in a way. Did you know that we are the top saved story on Mary's Instagram profile? It's you and I doing our... What? It's you and I talking about her on the Iconic 400. We are the first saved story on her Instagram profile. And it says, I heart with an heart emoji.

I think she thinks that we were, she clearly doesn't know the minutiae of what the fuck this all is. Why would she, she has way more important things to deal with. The important and unimportant things in her life are much more important than this podcast. I would disagree with that. And I would say that she thinks that she thinks that we are iHeartRadio mouthpieces because this is iHeartRadio and a little heart and it's us doing our entire 30 seconds on Mary M. Cosby.

I'm so happy. Little does she know we've done a whole episode of this podcast based around her. 12 Days of Culture, when Mary M. Cosby took the world stage.

Day number two. Day number two. Day number one was the opening of the first McDonald's. Yeah. Day number two was Miriam Cosby takes the world stage. And then number three was the lane. I think five was Jaws eats the girls. Jaws eats the girls. 12 was when Nintendo World ended. I don't remember. We'd have to go back and look, but that's of course our greatest work. I have to ask you, what is the life of a touring person?

singer-songster like in the year 2024? I am having the best time of my life. This is probably my favorite tour I've ever done. The vibes are immaculate between me and the boys, the band. The audiences are giving everything. I just performed in Atlanta. I'll perform in, I guess, Austin, actually the night before this comes out. So sorry, y'all, if you're in Austin and you missed it. But I'll be in Philly and New York and Boston this weekend. I'm having the best time.

And then I felt so stupid though, Bo, because I put up this Instagram post, which was like these like nice pictures that my friend Doug Krantz took of me in LA at my Fonda show. And I put it up and I was like, I'm having the unequivocal best time of my life, etc. And then someone posted like below it, like, is this an Erez tour thing? And I was like, oh God, not me posting in the same like

tenor as Taylor Swift on the finale of the Aris tour. I promise I'm self-aware about this whole thing. Wait, I don't understand what the person was trying to call out, though. Just being like... They were like, this is such an Aris tour post. And I had to sit back and laugh because I was like, wow. I gave a Swiftian caption. Yeah. You know how she does, how she gets on and she's like... Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm also...

I don't know how much she owns the concept of posting a carousel of photos from the show. No, she doesn't. But someone said that. It just made me laugh. That's all I was saying. Of course. I have no sense of humor. I'm in my bag, as it were. I'm having the best time. Please come out to the show. I really am having the best time. By the way, everyone, first of all, Slay, you are so lucky to be able to see this man perform. I love this slutty Christmas Fiero look.

I literally texted Michael Fisher. I said, I want to be like slutty Christmas Fiero. I think that would be a fun reference for everything that's going on in the culture. And, you know, it being the Prince of Christmas tour, it felt like synergy. And he came through like he always does. Shout out to Michael Fisher and Brody. I feel very slutty Christmas Fiero. And slutty white pant Fiero, which is a very important Broadway stage version visual. Yes.

It's a throwback. It's a throwback. It's an odd. Speaking of Wicked, which I saw a third time last night, I took the band to go see Wicked. Oh my God. In Austin. Henry Kapurski's first time seeing it? No, he had seen it before, and Ethan had seen it before, but it was my bassist, Jordan Richards' first time seeing it. And my drummer, Derek Swink, he had seen it before. Derek Swink? Yes. Iconic name. What a name. Iconic drummer. Father of one, Ryder. And...

He is now, he's like, he was saying, I'm now an Ariana Grande super fan. He was like, I think she can do anything. I was like, well, she can. And congrats to you. You're in a Golden Globe nominated film. Ariana, Cynthia, congrats on your nominations. Everybody, I mean, this is an awards juggernaut, Bo. It is incredibly cool to see these people get nominated

the recognition. I will not be going to the Golden Globes, unfortunately. Bummer. Why? I am protecting this Japan trip at all costs. Oh, no, no, no. You should, you must go to Japan. I'm not, no. There's, I love the Globes. No, you've been before. Question mark.

I went when it was the HFPA days. Now that we're in a post-HFPA time, last year's Globes were such a smash. Yeah, they were great. And Nikki is going to be fantastic. Nikki will be so good. They picked the right person. Ooh, some of our friends are writing for it, I think. Oh, great. Yeah, but I will unfortunately not. Even though, I mean, should I? I don't know. No, Bowen, you should go to... I need to go to Japan. Well, tell everyone what you're doing. Tell everyone what you're going to do. I'm going to Japan on New Year's Day for two weeks, a little under two weeks.

It's my number one bucket list place. I'm splurging the house down. I need this trip. You deserve it.

Thank you. You absolutely should go. I mean, listen, first of all, by the way, Bowen, I think you're going to have many Golden Globes invitations in your future and other cool things that, you know, these are just fun nights. Of course, you've done a lot of celebrating Wicked. You've done a lot of celebrating of everyone's work. And I think everyone knows how excited and how grateful you are to be a part of it. And you also contributed so much to it already. You don't need to be there. You can go to Japan and have a fucking time at Tokyo DisneySea.

I looked it up. It's hard to do both parks in the same day, and I think I only have one day. Should I do DisneySea or Disneyland? Well, we could go through the rides and attractions later off air and talk about which ones I think would be best for you. I need to know. But I don't know. That's a really tough question. Think about this, though. You can go to Disneyland anywhere in the world. You can't really do the DisneySea thing anywhere in the world. But that's like a state-of-the-art innovative thing that only they have. And when are you going back? I think...

Very often. Okay. If I have my druthers. Well, we'll prepare for the druthering of just the one trip. But anyway, we can get into that after because I do want to help you. I want to help you with that. And I have a trip to pitch you for the spring.

Okay. Does it rhyme with Smirlin? Yes. Period. Period. Oh, you know I'm interesante. Okay. Wait, can we just speak on the Golden Globes nominations for a second? Because they came out today and I just want to say one thing. Because...

Because I feel like we have not given the shine to one particular performer who fucking deserves it. Mikey Madison. No. Well, Mikey Madison, I think, is a superstar. We've given her the shine. I love Anora. And by the way, I'm super excited to see all these nominations and all this love for Yura Borisov.

who is in the movie. He was fantastic. And the way he held the space with her in that last scene, their chemistry, it's not easy to just give like a tender, open, available performance like that. It's also a real, genuine feat in casting, which I think that movie deserves a casting Oscar, which I keep saying every year in and year out, there should be a casting Oscar because of movies like Anora. Brilliant. By the way, Sebastian Cannelli, our friend,

is in Anora. He plays the... Sebastian! The tow truck guy at the end who gets into it. This is why this movie needs a casting Oscar because they find the right actors from the right random places, bring them in, and create this ensemble which is...

So real and memorable to say nothing of all the dancers in that movie are all extremely well cast, like, and to find like Mikey Madison, who's been doing great work, et cetera. And now she gets this part. Now she's going to be a superstar. So slaying red carpets, crushing them.

Amazing. Amazing person. Amazing person. But what I want to say and who I want to shout out is Kristen fucking Milioti. Oh my God. Kristen Milioti on the Penguin is giving...

Not only one of the best performances of the year, obviously, but one of the best performances in DC Batman history. Up there was Heath, Joaquin, Michelle Pfeiffer. She is truly crushing this role. Superior. So dangerous and yet emotional and fun and surprising and all the things. Kristen Milioti, every single time she's in anything,

like gives a stunning performance and is memorable and is just also a cool person and I hope she wins she's up there with like legends she's in that category with like Jodie Foster or Cate Blanchard or Cate Winslet like Naomi Watts Naomi don't forget Naomi and Sofia Vergara and I hope she takes it I really hope she takes it yeah god I'm behind

But this is not... Behind on watching things. Yes, yes. But this is a classic, tale as old as time for me. It's hard, but this is why I treasure these episodes, is where you give me the download. I'm really just saying, like, that is a performance that is worth saying with full chest. And then, you know, outside of that, like, kind of was the usual suspects, although they're very globesy. It was a little bit like, okay, like Parade of the Famous People. Totally. Totally.

Let's see. What else is there in the culture? This might, y'all, our KPFs, this might be a quick one. This might be a quick little episode. You know, not super quick, but I'm just saying like... Bone wants to get the fuck out of here. No, it's just we've both got busy days. What are you doing today?

We have a call. Oh, right, right. I have to go do VO. I have to go to pitch and then figure out my week at work. Oh, right. And then I have to go to a benefit tonight that the one, the only, Carey Mulligan and Mumford & Sons are hosting. They host this every year, the Wasail, through their charity work. Forgive me.

Is there a connection between Carey Mulligan and Mumford & Sons? Is she married to one of them? She's married to Marcus Mumford. So she's Carey Mumford? She's Carey Mumford. That would make her even more British to me. Oh, then Mulligan's a pretty British name. Absolutely, but there's something about Carey Mumford...

Which is even more British. You can hear it. She would immediately get Dame status if she were to change her name to her legal married name of Mumford. Carrie Mumford, she'd become Dame Carrie Mumford. You think her keeping her own name is what's keeping her from the Damehood?

No, I'm just saying that she would immediately elevate. I feel like Carrie Mumford, there's something about it that says Dame to me. Carrie Mulligan is also a Dame. She might just have to wait a little bit longer than Carrie Mumford. I feel like Marcus Mumford, great. Carrie Mulligan, the first time I heard that name,

I went, I was like, well, whoever this fucking person is, I stand. Best believe I went to go see an education by myself in college. You know, I remember you being very affected by an education. In fact, I remember when you made your Instagram bio, I am as pretty as Carrie Mulligan, please confirm. I've always adored this person. So I just have a busy day. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. But I don't want to truncate this episode. I love spending time with you, of course.

Yes, clearly. So what else is in the culture, I'm asked? Let's talk about the shooter, please. You want to talk about the shooter?

Hello, everyone. This is Matt. Just jumping in here quickly to say that we recorded this episode and then about an hour later, they did catch the shooter. Yeah, so this episode is going to be a little bit of a time capsule to a time when we did not know who this person is and the internet was not absolutely flooded with commentary about him. So enjoy a trip back into time. Just incredible. The Monopoly money in the back path.

Oh, yeah. What was that about? He's just like pranking and trolling the cops. Yeah. It's amazing. It's incredible. It's also so fucking bleak that NYPD is basically like the third biggest army in the world and cannot track down a killer, call a spade a spade. Shooter has killed someone with an unusual weapon and a silencer that is meant to kill livestock.

That is meant to kill pigs specifically, which is also another poetic layer to this. And they can't find him? Makes you think. Is this a conspiracy episode? Jesus Christ. Apparently they found someone in Pennsylvania with ammunition and fake IDs that matched the description of the shooter. And they are questioning him now. But I mean, for basically six days as of this recording, like...

This guy just hopped on a bus at the Port Authority. It's amazing.

Damn. Damn. Well, the Port Authority is incredibly hard to navigate for anyone. Absolutely. Like, even people that really are from New York. Like, you get why even NYPD is like, now wait, where am I going? Because the Port Authority is tough. The signage. Ooh. The signage. It's all just very confusing. You know, he does look a little bit like Chalamet. Chalamet, yes. I feel like he has this Sebastian Stan quality to him.

You know, from that angle, just a darkness but a charm, much like Sebastian. A darkness but a charm. Darkness but a charm is title of app. A darkness but a charm. Dot, dot, dot. Dot, dot, dot.

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Okay, let's talk about Eros Tour. It's an end of an eras. Did you watch any of it? I watched her final bow and the speech that she gave at the end, which was very, very touching. Very beautiful. Yeah, no announcement. No Reputation TV announcement. No Taylor Swift TV announcement. I thought, because I was watching the surprise songs and when she started with A Place in This World, I was like, oh, here we go. It's happening. I was like, we're going to see it mashed up with something from Rep. Then she did it.

Then she went another way. It was kind of cool how in the acoustic section she was able to pretty much get all of the eras in there. I loved New Year's Day. New Year's Day. Depending on the manuscript with the story isn't mine anymore. I was texting it with Jared and he said in all caps, she's going to end on but the story isn't mine anymore. Watch. And then she did true Taylor Swift music.

Seer, Jared Freider. Prognosticator, Jared Freider. Absolutely. He holds that title well. Yeah, he did it. He did it on that one. I don't know, I guess now the re-releases are stretched into the new year, something we did not think would happen. No. Reflections on the Heiress Tour, reflections on...

I can't imagine this getting replicated anytime soon. No, I actually was wondering, what does her next tour look like? Does she just tour an album again? That's got to be something in her mind. Totally. Does she do a Loverfest-esque thing where she does a few cities but many dates? But then, does that feel like not even nearly as expansive as Erys' tour?

You know, when you say that, like Loverfest, that makes me feel like what if she did do her own like three-day festival? She could do that. Like she's in industry enough where she could like do a Coachella all of her own where it's like she had opening acts on each day for three days and then came out like and did three shows in a row and it was like...

That seems to me like the next way someone as industrial and as prolific as her, that she could do something like that because that community would absolutely...

Descend on Indio. Totally. But it feels like... I mean, how many people ended up being... What was the total sort of like reach or sales? I know it's 2 billion, but it's like how many people ended up seeing her? How many people ended up seeing her total? I'm like, how... Like, does she want to outdo that? But in like that sort of like festival format? It's interesting. She has a lot of ways to go. And I just...

I think she would do the festival like in multiple locations. - Yeah. - And travel with that but not be quite as like, I don't know, like three dates here, three dates here. Like, you know, something with a different flavor. - Flavor. Flavorful new festival touring. - What if album 12 was called Flavorful? - Oh my God. - The Flavorful era. I've been thinking for a very long time about flavors.

And how my favorite flavor could not be narrowed down to just one. I love the cherry flavor. I even love grape. And no one likes grape. When someone, can I, let me stop everything right now. When someone's favorite flavor is grape. What, what do you do? Run for the hills. They're the killer. They are the, they're the CEO killer. Trust me. When they find the CEO killer and they interrogate him and they slam their hands down on the table with their two palms like this. And they say, it's your favorite flavor. He's going to say grape.

grape okay and they're gonna be like you sick fuck go to the chair go to the chair fry him fry this grape lover fry this grape lover hold on now let's back up the flavors tour what flavor is each arrow go oh my god this is so fun okay um debut is vanilla

No. I love vanilla. I did not mean to... I love vanilla. I get very excited about vanilla. I order it often. I mean, okay. These are all like first thought. I'm shooting from the hip. Fearless. Like a honey... Yeah, like a little honey yogurt with some chia seed. Yummers. And then Speak Now, I'm going to say is like...

A gold leaf berry cheesecake. Wow. You're being very artisanal about this. Continue to be so. Thank you. Bread. Oh, well, that's got to be... Cherry. Cherry or... Cherry or like a cinnamon spice...

Yeah. Latte. A hundred percent. Nutmeg. And then 1989. Well, that has to be. Cotton candy flavor.

Cotton candy flavor. Or like... Cotton candy dreams. Cotton candy dreams. Yeah, cotton candy. Reputation. Ooh, that's going to be black licorice. Ooh, bitch. Polarizing. Yes, especially at first. Especially at first. It's sort of European and, you know, thick and sugary. Dark. Dark. Yeah.

D-A with an apostrophe over it like tar. R-Q-U-E. And that's the way we're going to spell dark in the title of this episode. Darkness. What was it? Darkness...

It was something. A darkness and a charm. A darkness and a charm. D apostrophe A-R-Q-U-E-N-E-S-S. Yeah. And that's not lost cult smelling. Okay, continue. Okay, so now. You are in the lover era. In the lover era. Well, that's cotton candy dreams to me. I know. Can you go back to 1989 and give it another one? I shouldn't have interrupted you. I should shut the fuck up.

No, no, no. You're okay, girl. I'm going to say 1989 is Blue Gatorade. Holy fuck. Haterade? No, no, no. I love Blue Gatorade. Oh, are you kidding me? Me too, a lot. Did you ever go to a football game in high school and put a little vodka in your Blue Gatorade? Honey, the cops are coming to your Austin hotel room. Owie, owie.

you arrest this man. We think he had too much fun in high school. Two hands down on the table. Toss your favorite flavor. Blue Gatorade with a little vodka. You sick fuck. Send him to the chair. But kiss me first. Wait. It's... No. This is the final 1989 flavor. This is the flavor that I'm going to lock in. Give it. Diet Coke. Crisp. Clean.

sharp flavor and perfect. It's like you could listen to it every day. You could taste it. I could have it every day. Can I tell you something? Before you say the rest of your flavors, last night at Wicked in Austin, Texas, where everything, and let me stress this, is bigger. I ordered a large Slurpee as I want to do. It was bigger than my head. I swear to you, the Coke Slurpee was this big. I am literally...

I'm literally doing it. I'm shaking. It was... Okay, Bowen, so was I because I was a little, get this, stoned. I had a 10 milligram edible for the film. I had never seen Wicked really high. Wizard of I took me on a ride. I think I cried. Oh my God. Again, it's my favorite number. I was physically shaking because I drank this huge... It had to be 90 ounces of...

of coke Slurpee to the head so fast because I was so excited during the beginning of the movie that I literally I was like am I having an anxiety attack or did I drink my coke Slurpee too fast I was shaking I could feel Jordan my bassist next to me being like are you okay I was like yeah yeah yeah yeah

I don't think any of that is medically advisable. I had to tell myself to calm down. I was like, Matt, stop. Because then I started to get like... Oh my God. I think I got too high and drank the Coke Slug with Chivvus because then I was like afraid of the movie. I was like, you've seen it. It's also wicked. Yeah, I know, but...

Well, you know what? I'm about due for like a, ooh, I got too high moment. Well, just in terms of THC, I'm like, whoa, like I need that. It honestly was very humbling because I didn't think I could still get there. Right. But wow, did I get there? I was like, Jesus Christ. I feel like you're a tank usually. I am, but I'll tell you who's a bigger tank is that Henry Kapurski character. The weed that he and Ethan have, my God. I was like, where did you get it? Yeah.

That's them being upstate wearing little beanies or, I don't know, toques. They haven't been there in so long. They live in LA now. But that's the vibe. I get it. And they can vouch for this for themselves. 100%. They can. They're forever giving up state. Okay, so, Cotton Candy's lover. You've corrected it to Diet Coke. Diet Coke. So, Cotton Candy is lover. I totally agree. Every time I think of a Cotton Candy, I think, excuse me, why is it like it's been a long time coming? Right. It's been a long time coming.

And then folklore, I'm going to say is coffee. Yeah. This is the thing. Folklore is like a summer, summer Negroni. Ooh. Something deep, but also kind of open. I've never heard of that ice cream flavor.

Summer Negroni. Yeah. You need to open up an ice cream shop. Do you have the bandwidth? Yeah, totally. That's what the call is later in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're calling about our ice cream shop. And then Evermore is going to be like a holiday. Hmm. Like a holiday. Yes. Like a dark Christmas stout. A dark Christmas stout. That's fun. Tis the damn season.

And then Midnight's, I'm going to say, is... Ooh. Is it on the nose for it to be like lavender or something? Yeah, totally. No, no, no, not on the nose. I think it's like a lavender, has some dairy in it, magnesium, kind of like concoction, like something you're like, I want to knock the fuck out in a healthy way. Ooh.

But it's midnight, you know? She put narcotics into all of her cream. And that's why you're sleeping in a dream. Ooh. Can you talk about Tortured Poets and what flavor it is? Tortured Poets is hospital. Hospital.

Hospital potato. Holy shit. Like a hospital. No, no, no. Like, yeah, like hospital mash. Hospital mash? I don't agree with this. This is the only one I'm going to come out hard against. Go. What do you want? I think Torture Poets is like mint chocolate chip. Oh, interesting. Rocky Road because of the road that comes out at the top of the Aris Tor portion.

Oh, interesting. And it was a rocky road, the relationship with Maddie Healy. You understand. Absolutely. I understand that. And for a fortnight there we were. Which, by the way, suddenly is my favorite song on the album. How did it happen? That's just Taylor for you. Sneaky songwriting. Now my question to you is, name the next album and what's the flavor? The next era and flavor. I think she's going to really try to go for like...

Asian. Asian Taylor. Asian pear? Asian pear is the flavor, and I think the album will be called Asian. You should take her to Tokyo with you. Yes! Taylor never did... Yes, she did. She did Tokyo. No, but what I'm saying is she never did Yellowface like these other girls. She never race baited like these other girls. Oh.

She never really went there. And now we're in a post-political landscape. Post-political landscape. No one cares anymore.

Do yellow face again, girls. Who cares? Oh, God. Come out with your unconditionally performances at the... What performance was that? That was at the VMAs or the AMAs? That was the AMAs. By the way, guess what was confirmed for me? What? Club 33 is where Katie and Taylor had their falling out. Who?

Who gave you the confirmation? Can you say? I cannot say on this microphone, on this beloved, critically acclaimed, widely listened to podcast, How I Know, but it was told to me that that is the truth. Oh my God. By someone in the dance community, I'll say that. And then that was the whole sort of crux of the conflict, as we know. Mm-hmm.

Interesting, interesting, interesting. Again, it's all alleged because me coming on here saying confirmed, like I know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm just saying it's now come from several different sources who claim to know that definitely something went down with a glass of milk and

At Club 33, there was a breakdown in humor and communication between the two pop stars who were there at the same time. And after that is when the She Tried to Sabotage an Arena tour went down. And even if it's not true, it is fun to think about how that happened at Disneyland. It's fun to think about. Gosh, like huge world-shifting events start now.

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And Gia Tolentino gave her top books of the year. Tell us about what they are. They are Rejection by Tony Tullitha Moody. They are Limitarianism, which is, I forget the author's name, but she's basically writing about how she's making a case for how...

It's a very common sense thing, actually. It's like we should just limit wealth. We should limit extreme wealth. Rather than eradicate poverty, we should limit wealth. Anyway. And then third book is Charlotte Shane. She's a sex worker and she's writing about like how she like fell in love. It's very like it's kind of giving a Nora like how she fell in love with or like maybe how she fell in love with like one particular person. But right now I'm on Rejection by Tony Toulitha Moody.

So readable. But like Gia Tolentino is out here saying, this is one of the greats. He's written the craziest, most amazing, virtuosic endings to a short story ever. Ever. Ever.

It's giving fucking Flannery O'Connor, bitch. It's giving Raymond Carver, bitch. And I'm reading this. I'm going, we all need to be reading this. Lost Culture Book Club is in effect. Matt, you would love this stuff. You would love this. It is all about... It's called Rejection. It's short stories. The thread is, as you would assume, moments of modern rejection and how we all see each other as instruments on the internet and not as human beings and how...

one moment of rupture and rejection will then shape a person's entire worldview going forward. And I'm like, this is, I've not read something this relevant in a long time. And I really encourage you all to read it. But Gia, we stan you. I also- 100% Iconic 400 member, member of the Hall of Fame. Gia did reach out and tell me that the legendary Zadie Smith-

was personally hurt that she was not on the Iconic 400 and that she doesn't feel like she is cool enough to be on the Iconic 400. We are here to say, Zadie, if you're listening, you are a legend for all time. You are absolutely in the realm of the Iconic 400. And we are so sorry that we left you out or if you feel excluded, but you are a fucking genius.

Zadie Smith, white teeth, more like big legend. More like big legend. That's actually real culture number eight. Zadie Smith, white teeth, more like big legend. If you appeared on a summer reading list from my middle school, well, actually, let me take that back because I can't say that everyone that appeared on my summer reading list in my middle school is a legend. But if your name is Zadie Smith, it is. Zadie Smith.

Swing time. More like slay bitch. Let me say something, Bo. Let me say something to you right now. Zadie Smith, on beauty, more like on business. Oh my God. Zadie Smith, NW, more like kiss kiss. We kiss you. Zadie Smith, the autograph man, more like the iconic woman.

God, you're so good at this. Zadie Smith, the fraud, more like the sensation. Zadie Smith, changing my mind, more like making me horny. Zadie Smith, the wife of Willisdon, more like the writer of dreams. Period.

We, I think, made up for it right there. Zadie, I hope that you feel as though, even though I can't believe that you think this could validate you any more than, like, you are a legend. Isn't it ridiculous how you have, I mean, these are all finalists. This is the thing. We don't realize that the finalists, sometimes the finalists are...

They just want to be in on it. But there is a place for you. You're literally a finalist. There's a place for us. Somewhere's a place for us. Okay, wait. Can you talk about who I'm calling sexy, funny, kind Paul? Sexy, funny, kind Paul. Yes. This is one of our great talents. Paul Meskel, of course.

What a lovely, lovely man. And I wish him nothing but the best for the future. He is someone who has always delivered things of devastating beauty. And he certainly gave us that in experience and in content and performance and comedy on SNL.

Season 50, Episode 8. Wow! I really like the way you said all that. What I was thinking as well, in addition, is that he...

Looked like he was having fun, which is my note as a viewer to all the hosts is like, you gotta have fun. You gotta have fun. Jump in. Splash around. Splash. Splash. I feel like when they're terrified, you can see it. Don't say yes to it if you're scared. But I don't blame them if they're terrified. I don't blame them at all. And what a fun time. I mean,

a great show for the guys and the girls. Heidi was amazing in this episode, I thought. Heidi is incredible! I really liked when she said, Shaboosie, I'm about to show my shaboosie. Shaboosie. I actually couldn't believe it made it on the air. I was like, that's when you remember this is on late. Adult humor. Adult humor. Shout out to the cast. I really love this cast. I'm having a love affair with the cast.

Are you having a good time this year? Having a great time this year. And Andrew Dismukes, the king, you are. Oh, I love Andrew Dismukes. James Austin Johnson, the king. Chloe Fineman, the queen. Aga Wotum, the queen. Sarah Sherman, you know how I feel about you. Sarah, I still actually feel...

No, Sarah's coming back soon. I was going to say, because the one episode where I was taking a break and then I turned around and you booked The Legend for the week, I was like, I did not mean to do that. No, it wasn't anything that you did. I was just like, because I remember saying to you then, I was like, we need to book her again ASAP. And so now is the time. We need the squirm back because who more do we want to hear about Salt Lake City then than the squirm?

No, and then she also has the encyclopedic knowledge to remind us all that Carlton cursed Kyle Richards' computer or something. Yeah.

Wait, Sarah, I also heard Sarah's out here claiming that she loved Angie Kay before everyone else. That's not true. It's not true at all. Burn the witch. Fuck her. It actually is true because Sarah, Celestium, and I were at, Sarah and Celestium were my guests for the Watch What Happens Live that I did with Angie Kay. It was Angie Kay's first Watch What Happens Live. Oh, I remember well, yes. And I remember going into that Watch What Happens Live thinking, I've told this story a million times, but I was just like, oh, Angie Kay, whatever, sure.

Yeah. But then I went in and was just so utterly charmed. Charmed. Her, Elektra, and Sean, I was like, this is a beautiful family. And then Sarah Celeste and I were like, wait, we stan Angie now. And ever since, we've only been validated by...

We love you, Angie K. So much. Angie, it has been a joy. And this, by the way, hasn't... By the way, her being in conflict so intensely with Meredith has not lessened my love for Meredith Marks at all. Meredith, thank you for your service. We love you. We appreciate you. And all the ladies of Salt Lake City. All of them. It's just that in the totality, while your personal experience may be bad, it is an incredibly enjoyable experience for...

to watch Angie K. rise. I reached out to Andy about it. I was like, Andy, have you ever been so blown away by the rise of a housewife? And he confirmed he is

ecstatic with NGK and he told me this is an exclusive and he told me that the rest of the season stays this good and that the finale and the reunion both are, in his words, stellar and deliver. That is something that we as an audience did not, I would say, expect given the explosive finale last year. I think we're in for something just as good in a different way.

By the way, can I also say, I would invite Brittany back. Brittany is also charming me. Brittany is good. Brittany gives you a very specific function on the show. Yes. She's very good. With her high body count hair. She has high body count hair. Her TikToks are getting crazy, Becca says. In what way, Becca? Elaborate on how Brittany Bateman's TikToks are getting crazy. Okay, I had a comment like for this. Basically, she is...

a secret theater kid and she's been just doing these like wicked singing videos. Becca, not too much on theater kids. Let me just warn you right now. I am like a closet theater kid for sure. But it's just been crazy. People are like, girl, get off this app. Stop singing. Like we don't want to hear you sing anymore. Oh no, no, no. Don't follow her. Don't silence Brittany Bateman singing. I'm just on my 40 page but the comments are mean. It makes me sad.

No. Oh, see, look. But she is posting a lot. A lot of singing. She's got a beautiful voice. Love her singing. She's an amazing voice. She is one of our great Disney cast members. She was Disney World. She was Orlando. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she definitely was like truly playing the lead roles, like the ingenue roles of the Disney girls. I just like her because I love anyone...

Who says, I have never been so offended in my life. In a tone like that. What about me? Hey, you guys, this is crazy. What about me? It's funny because she's saying these big statements like, I have never been so offended in my life. But this is the register. Like a Disney princess. Yes, yes, yes. I refuse to raise my voice in a way that will harm it. Hey, I have never been so offended in my life. I'm crying.

You said that I sleep with 10 guys. 10 guys. I said three. Three guys. Three guys. That did bother me, though. And I'm sorry. I got to put Bronwyn on the block again. You and you are you have been coming. I really. God, it's like you're not a Bronwyn fan. These tiny tweaks to the truth add up. And it is it is a form of.

I don't know, like, not to say the word, it is a form of G, of gas. Gaslighting. I'll say it for you. She went back to this. She did. And, like, for her to immediately fuck over Brittany like that in that moment, I'm like, see, you think you're being fun and messy, but it's actually, like, it's too hyper-aware of the cameras. Meanwhile, Angie Kay is perfectly, perfectly situated in her awareness. Yes.

All right, here's what I'll say. I get calling out Bronwyn for her behavior, which was definitely a little scorched earth. Like, fuck it. I'm feeling like I'm throwing my hands up. I'm just starting fires to start fires. But had she not, we would not have gotten Angie Kay getting kicked out by Meredith Sicardi. We wouldn't have a lot of the stuff. We wouldn't have had high body count here had Bronwyn not made moves in that moment. So,

I don't know. Like, was Bronwyn, was she chaotic evil in that moment? Yes. Was it net good for the episode? Yes. She thinks she's chaotic evil. She doesn't have it. I don't know, Beau. And listen, like, so you know how, like, you can sum up a guy's vibe by saying that he's a hello-ma-lady? Like, I think she's a take several seats. I think that's her. Yeah.

She's a white lady saying, she's a white lady saying, take several seats. Exactly. She did say woo child at one point. And I go, all right.

That's enough. I don't know. That's quite enough. Is Woo Child not something a white woman from Salt Lake can say married to a man named Todd? I don't think so. Well, I don't know. Clean up the dog dookie in your house first before you dip into the vernacular. Remind me, are all her dogs named after Breaking Bad characters? I don't know. What show is it?

There's some show that her first episode. We have to find this out. Bronwyn Newport dog names. Can we just get honestly, that should just be the title of episode. Bronwyn Newport dog names. Okay. Oh, House of Cards. They're all House of Cards characters. It's so funny to me.

Is there not a darkness with no charm there? Listen, I am not a Bronwyn hater. I'm actually a Bronwyn fan. I'm a Bronwyn Newport fan. I think Bronwyn Newport is exactly the type of real housewife. She's here to stay. And I'm great with that. I just... She's your villain of the show. She's your villain. Absolutely, she is.

Absolutely she is. But look, that means she's doing well. It means we got a villain. Love it. I love it. And Angie Kay in the one spot. Look, I'm not out here being a full Bronwyn hater. I just, you know, it's like, you know, people feel strong things about these people. And I feel like I have an insight into that. Like, however people feel about, it's like SNL cast members. It's like, we're just...

comedians. You know? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, these are just housewives. But, you know, have your opinion. That's what makes the world go round. Discourse. It's actually rule of culture number 31. That's what makes the world go round. Discourse. I gotta ask, was there a vibe between you and Jake Shane on TheraPussy?

A vibe? Like a sexual vibe? I think people have reached out to me and said, they're flirting. We had a very brotherly vibe. I am extremely warm to him, and I think he'd be a fabulous guest on this podcast. He would be a fabulous guest on this podcast. This is my thing. So this is a phenomenon now, because you even saying that I had a vibe with Sean Evans, I'm like, oh, yeah.

what's going on here? Like, I think there's a lot of suffusion from the outside in being like, there's a vibe. And I'm like, no, there wasn't. Same with you and Jake. Same with me. And I was on Katya's podcast, who's the asshole. And everyone's like, there's a vibe. And I'm like, no, I think we were just being two gay guys.

I don't think that, in fact, I established pretty quickly up top. I was like, because I do feel this way about him. He's like a little brother to me. I was like, I see him out here. Because of two reasons. He can't help it. And he doesn't know his words, but he does know his heart. And I've been seeing him out here. He does know his words. I find him very smart, very funny.

And he's so interesting. I stan. I love Jake. I had the best time on that podcast. And you should listen to it if you haven't, Therapist. But I told him, I was like, you need to come on Lost College because Bowen would adore you. Oh, I love him. I was supposed to do it when I was in LA, but I just didn't have time. Oh, yeah. It's a must. You would have a fabulous episode with him. And I can't wait to welcome him to the pod. Because allegedly, are you coming to Los Angeles? Yes.

Not until Feb, probably. But you are coming in Feb? I think so. When is all of the cool SNL stuff happening in February, like the Radio City of it all? Is that announced? It is. February 16th. So I guess it's the week of February 10th. But then I would have to be back in New York for that week.

That might be right after I wrap a thing and I might be able to come. Could be fun. They're not giving us plus ones. Oh, okay. Well, I didn't think so. I mean. Because it's like, it's literally like a million people. No. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I meant, by come, I meant come to New York and do my own thing. That's what actually I had meant by that. I just meant that.

I could see you like maybe a couple of days after once you're down and everything. That's what I meant when I said that. I can't. Um, and I, yeah, I can't. Oh, okay. Um,

Well, you have my information. And, you know, I want to pitch to the readers. I had an idea to do an entire episode of this podcast, which is as if Bowen and I were meeting for the first time. Yes, I think that's a great episode. And then that's a full, like, first date vibe. Not like romantic date, but just like our first time meeting. Well, I don't know, Bow. You just took it off the table. Damn. Oh, my God. No way. Well, now we have to do it. The way you just took it right off the table. Well...

RPKFs, let us know what you think of that premise. I think that could be very fun. I think we have to film it. Like, I come in and I'm like, hi, so nice to meet you finally. I've heard the best things. I am a fan. Or should I come in and not know you at all? And I sit down and it's just like, so tell me what you do. And then you tell me you're on SNL and I have to react to that. Right. And then you tell me about No Good Deed. And then I go, what was Lisa Kudrow like?

And I will tell you all the tea. I think it could be very fun. It comes out tomorrow, you guys. If you're listening to this on Wednesday, No Good Deed comes out, I guess, tonight at midnight. It's going to be so great. And I get this.

So I went to the premiere. It was the night of my first show in LA. That was a busy day. But I really wanted to make time to go to the premiere for two reasons. One, I'm so proud of it and wanted to celebrate it. And two, I found this shirt that I loved. I was thrifting with Greta on Melrose. And we walked into this place called Lost Days. And I found this shirt, this like silk blue shirt with skulls on it. And I was like, ugh.

I love this shirt. And they were like, come on now, get the card out. And I said, all right, I think I have somewhere to wear it. And I really wanted to wear it. And I got to wear it. So I was at the premiere and I said to Lisa Kudrow, I said, listen, I don't know if you do podcasts, but if you do, like Bone and I would absolutely love to have you on the podcast. And she goes, okay, yeah. In her like Lisa way. That's so Lisa. She's like, oh yeah, okay, cool. Let's do it. I was like, yay! Yeah, sure. Putting it out there.

And I talked to Linda, who said, she was like, you know, I was going to have that be my first podcast, but you were out of town. I was like, okay, we'll figure that out too. Linda. We would be Linda's first podcast. Well, because when we were on set, she asked about the podcast. She's so nice. By the way, like, you know, I actually think out of everyone on the cast, the person I was the most gagged for was actually Linda Cardellini. Like, I...

I told her at the end of shoot when I had, I only have one scene with her. It's actually in the first episode, but, um, I told her at the end when we were done, I was like, this was so cool. I am such a fan.

And she was like, stop like that. So kind. But she had asked about the podcast and asked about you. And she asked when we had started and stuff. And I was like, you know, we would love to have you. And she was like, well, you know, I don't really do a lot of podcasts. And I was like, totally respect that. Like she is the character actress. Like she's just so fucking good, etc. But she goes, I was going to do the podcast. I was actually going to do a podcast for like the first time. And I was like, well, we have to make it work. So putting that out there as well.

Putting out their four names. Linda Cardellini, Lisa Kudrow, Lady Gaga, and Celine Dion. And Angie Kay. Should Angie Kay be the third housewife ever on the pod? Yes. Should we try to figure that out for next week? Yes. Angie Kay virtual episode. This is officially a call. Out. We hope it happens. If not, no worries, King. Becca is on it. She just said texting Anna. All right.

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I think it's time for Out of Things, Donnie. I think so, too. Because I think this episode ended up going even longer than Bowen wanted it to go.

because he had expressed earlier wanting to be really short, but that I think he had so much fun with me. I did. I always love my girl, my sister. I'm excited to see you this weekend. Well, I'm going to go to SNL. Yes. For Gracie. I love Gracie. Gracie, congratulations on Eros. I love her. And all your success.

Okay. Do you want to go first? Because we already know what yours is. Yeah, I do. I do. I do. All right. So this is... This is I Don't Think So Honey Bowen Yang. And by the way, I Don't Think So Honey is a one-minute segment where we rail and rant against something in pop culture that we just don't find...

Savory. And this is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Giselle Bryant. Ooh, I should have known that you could not have maintained my goodwill, much less the wider, greater goodwill of the people, which is the audience that watches your show, The Real Housewives of Potomac, for very long. I enjoyed the time we had. I enjoyed this little period. But you, God, having the fucking...

curse of talking to Robin Dixon on the regular and saying actual lies about our friend Joel Kim Booster, actual documented lies. And we've seen the receipts and the proof that since whatever, there's just proof that you...

Not even like twisted the truth a little bit. You full on made shit up about this whole situation between you and Joel. 15 seconds. About his fucking genitalia. Like, don't do that. Like, I'm not going to talk about your kids. I'm not going to talk about your body. Don't fucking talk about my friend like that. Five seconds. You fucking succubus. I'll call you that. You're a demon from the mouth of hell. And I hate you. And that's one minute.

Certainly interesting for her to go on and on about body shaming and then get on her podcast and talk about the size of someone's penis on a television show. You are a total loser. You're a loser, period. Like, get out. I was enjoying her on the show. Me too. And I watched it. I was like, cut out the Giselle stuff. I don't really care. I really don't care. How is she allowed to just say that on her podcast? Like, no one's going to say anything about that? Well, whatever. Like...

Your ugly ass house. Enjoy. It's still not finished. Yeah, she really got on that podcast and actually said those things. It's crazy. It is completely insane. Over a situation that she wasn't even involved in. Like, that was between Joel and Shannon Bedore. Which, you know, maybe it shouldn't have been to begin with, but Joel knows that. Joel knows that. And look, like...

Everyone is going through their own shit. But also, like, Giselle, you're lying to your loser friend. And we've seen the proof that you say one thing and do another. And you're lying to your fucking stupid-ass friend, Robin Dixon, who could not keep a job on that show because she was bad. God. Listen. Okay. Do you have one? Do I have one? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I have one. Okay. Okay.

This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Ravioli, the way I always think you're going to be better than you actually are, and you're very easy to fuck up. It's extremely easy to overcook ravioli, as I find out, you know, very often. And here's the thing. I'm not saying I don't think so, honey, the good ravioli. If you're the good ravioli out here, I'm not talking to you. You continue to be fabulous. What I'm talking about is I don't think so, honey. These raviolis that are a little bit overcooked,

And especially when you bite into it and you get that mealy feeling. You know what I'm saying? I don't think so, honey ravioli. I trusted you. I really opened my heart up to trust. I opened my heart up to trust you, ravioli. And then guess what?

You failed me. And also, it's not the first time food has failed me in the past week because here I am in Austin, Texas, and I had a bad taco. No. Are you serious? I'm supposed to come here and eat the good tacos and I had a bad taco? Five seconds. Good taco. Psych. It was a bad taco. I don't think it's honey, these foods. That's one minute. You really went into a Britney Bateman there. I've never been so offended in my life.

That's how I talk now that I'm a singer. Singer. Oh, my God. Bad taco, bad ravioli. Well, first of all...

I like how you backpedaled on that. I'm not talking about the good ravioli. I'm talking about the bad one. Well, I guess it should have been, I don't think so, honey, a bad ravioli featuring bad taco in Austin. No, you know what? It should have been, I don't think so, honey, I had a bad taco in Austin. That was crazy. That's crazy. It was a little bit of like spinach and feta.

And I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. And can I say something? And I want to compliment the Delta Lounge because you know what they've added, and I do think this was your power? Scrambled eggs. Scrambled eggs. Have you noticed this? I have. Delta Lounge has been slaying lately. But...

I'm just saying. The ravioli. There was a ravioli moment in the Delta Lounge that I believed. I believe the ravioli was a little overcooked. And that's as privileged as I'm going to get on this episode. I want to say something. I want to put out there, bring back meat or protein filled. I mean, I guess cheese counts, but I'm saying like I want meaty ravioli.

I would like that. I want Chef YRD-inspired. We can restart a conversation. Yeah, but I want Chef YRD-inspired ravioli, red sauce, meat, shards of meat. Shards of meat. What was the taco filling? It was just a chicken taco. I mean, can I be honest with you? The chicken tacos were fine. It was the quesadilla, actually, that really disappointed me. I was like, wait a second. This amateur hour quesadilla is...

Anyway, I won't say from where. I don't want to burn down a business. I actually have been really... I went to Rainy Street in Austin. I remember the last time I was here, I was like, what the fuck happened to Rainy Street? But Rainy Street's kind of back. There was live music happening. Everywhere was open. The bars seemed popping and had that Austin flavor. I'm actually going to my favorite restaurant tonight, which is called Anthem.

And you know who I'm seeing tonight? Chrissy Shackelford. Oh my God, Chrissy. Wait, she's in her hometown. Yes, she gets to dream life. She gets to live in the city she loves, Austin. And have her family and also win Emmy after Emmy after Emmy for John Oliver. And give, if you're lucky on one year, the acceptance speech. She gave the acceptance speech for, I think, Emmy's 2021. Several years ago, yeah. Eight. Eight. We love you, Chrissy Shackelford. Yeah.

She's the best. We used to work together at the ride. She was my favorite person to work at the ride with. We met in Story Pirates. We would come here to Austin all the time. I would usually direct those ones and I would put together my dream cast. It was you, Chrissy, Rachel Winitsky, Henry on keys. And then Chrissy would take it would show us around and go take us to bars. And then I think she introduced me to Torchy's Tacos before they expanded. Oh, my God. Wait, were you on the Story Pirates trip where I got in the fight with the taco truck guy?

I seem to remember, yes, yes, I was there. This is years and years ago. Because we went to that bar where we played like cornhole or something. And then you got into a fight. Yeah, I was there for that. I went missing because I was really in it with the taco truck guy because the taco, I handed the guy a 40 and then he handed me back like $3. Yes, I was there for that. And I was like, excuse me, like I gave you a lot more money than this. And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Fucker. I remember being really upset because I was like dirt poor at the time. No, we didn't have money.

And I was also drunk and started crying. Like that was giving 25 years old. We were 25. Rachel Winitsky was on that trip too. Yes, she was. Yes, she was. That was a great trip. That was an iconic trip. That's a fun group. When we used to perform in College Station. Yes, College Station. Oh my God. Texas A&M? Is that what that is? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I remember it was like a college campus. And I remember...

Yeah, I remember putting together like the gayest cast ever to go do our like, and wait, oh wait, what was that? What was this? I remember I, there was a story where I came into the audience and sang. You came to the audience because you were like the great mother bird. And you were like, I've said, and I played like the bird that was like trying to become a singer or something. And then I was not a supportive mother to you. I didn't want you to sing. Oh no, I wanted to be a dancer and you had,

never been a supportive mother to me and then you came from the crowd and you were like I just want to see I want to tell you that I know you're a dancer we should we need to find that that was so good and all the kids were like absolutely standing that was a great audience those kids were a great crowd they were like they were with it the whole time yeah I mean listen look for the children

Look for the children. Okay, well. Yet another lost coach. Yet another lost coach. We never fail you. Oh, we should announce now. We will be taking a little break around Christmas into the new year. Yeah. We deserve that much. So we're going to do an episode next week. So what is it? December 18th will be our last episode. So next week will be our, yes. And then we're going to, we'll see you back on January 15th.

Yes. So we're going to have some nice time off. I'm going to finish my tour and then get some rest. And Bowen is going to have a fabulous time in Tokyo. But what we're putting out there for next week is that we're going to end the year with Angie Kay. That would be so sublime. Wow. I think it would be sublime. All right. We end every episode with a song. What will it be today? What will it be today?

Taylor's best Christmas song. Bye.

And our music is by Henry Kaburski.

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